1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Boys. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line, 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 3: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison. 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 4: Wag up Cowboys Nation, Welcome in a Girls Talk Boys 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 4: Talk presented by Invisit Line in the SWBC studio. I'm 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 4: Nicole Hutchinson alongside Brianna Aldrich, Christie Scales, Aisha Morrison. 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 5: Ladies, what's popping? It's been a minute. How y'all doing? Hey, 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 5: it's good morning. 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 6: We got the Dak Prescott's up for a major award. 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 5: Yes, it's gotta be a good day to be Dak. 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 4: Prescott, and of course does because we have a luxury 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 4: of covering a quarterback like dad. 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 7: Let's just briefly touch on it a little bit. 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 4: Thoughts on Dak being NFL finalist for NFL Comeback Player 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 4: of the Year. 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 7: Ladies, him right, all right, Evan Right. 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 8: That's wow, wow, good morning, welcome back. 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I. 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 8: Mean the first thing I saw when it was posted 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 8: it's it reminded me of the off season conversation about 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 8: how he would come back off injury or off the injury, 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 8: and I was just like, in my head, I was like, 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 8: I kind of forgot, like the way he just came 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 8: out even Week one against the Eagles, giving them a chance, 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 8: you know, against the Super Bowl ringing champs on the road. 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 8: There was no hiccups, like if anything. Other people around 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 8: him looked like, you know, they were trying to get 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 8: back into it, and he he didn't have any slums. 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 8: Arguably one of his best season thus far. And talking 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 8: him all season, he said, not only did he feel healthy, 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 8: it's just the experience and how he's able to read 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 8: these defenses and things he's learned about himself. Obviously he's 37 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 8: a vet tenth year and I'm just hoping that he's 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 8: able to keep it going next year when the other 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 8: side of the wall. 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a well deserved nomination. It's tough competition though, 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 6: because the other folks who were up McCaffrey, Christian McCaffrey, 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 6: of course, you know, that was the calf and the 43 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 6: achilles injury going into the season. Coming out of camp, 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 6: went over to Germany. You know, try and get some 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 6: treatment for the achilles and then comes back and then 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 6: in December suffers the knee injury and he had a 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 6: magnificent season. So and then Stefan Diggs, a wide receiver. 48 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 6: Of course, the injury happened last year when he was 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 6: with the Houston Texans, and that was a torn acl 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 6: at the midpoint of the season. Trevor Lawrence, Jacksonville quarterback, 51 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 6: who had terrific season leading a Jaguars two the playoffs 52 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 6: and all but last year. That was a big shoulder 53 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 6: injury that he had in Week nine and then came 54 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 6: back and a few weeks later, really devastating hit. 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 5: Some of them may remember alasse here with the Houston. 56 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 6: Hit him real hard and caused a concussion and big 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 6: scrap and melee going on after that. And then of 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 6: course Aydan Hutchinson of the Detroit Lions, and that injury 59 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 6: happened in Week six against the Cowboys last year and 60 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 6: that was the broken tibia and fibulous of the two 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 6: bones in the lower legs. So good luck to Dak 62 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 6: he certainly deserves it. But those are some terrific stories 63 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 6: by the other nominees as well. 64 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 9: And the McCaffrey one is the one that stands out 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 9: the most to me out of all of them, just 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 9: because it was just so interesting. It felt like it 67 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 9: was one Achilles and then it was the other one, 68 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 9: and it was just so much information. There was really, 69 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 9: like so much uncertainty about him coming back this season, 70 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 9: especially as a running back, and for that same friend 71 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 9: team in general. I hates it sucks to say, but 72 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 9: their resiliency as a team was just, you know, remarkable 73 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 9: to see. So yeah, but glad to see our guy 74 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 9: get recognized. Glad to see people say, hey, that guy 75 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 9: can play. Hopefully no more of the DAK isn't a 76 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 9: good quarterback type stuff for a couple of years. 77 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 5: I can't take it anymore. 78 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, only cowboy to be nominated for any of these 79 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 6: AP honors. 80 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 5: But would you like. 81 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 6: To hear Defensive Player of the Year and a few 82 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 6: or the other things I just mentioned. Will Chaferson for 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 6: the Houston right Nick Benado, who will see on Sunday, 84 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 6: he's the really great linebacker for the Broncos. Had a 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 6: great game against the Cowboys when we were there in Denver. 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 6: Miles Garrett Arlington, Texas's own Texas A and m zone 87 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 6: Cleveland Brown set in a single season sack record. We 88 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 6: mentioned Aiden Hutchinson, so also nominated for Defensive Player of 89 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 6: the Year as well as Comeback Player of the Year 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 6: and then won Michael Parsons for the Green Bay Packers. 91 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 6: So you have a current Cowboy and a former Cowboy. 92 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 9: No rep for awards, it was only defensive linemen and 93 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 9: linebackers apparently. 94 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, Well it's interesting because last year Patrick Sartain, 95 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 6: he was expected at the So you have a Bronco 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 6: defender make it this year as a nominee, but it's 97 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 6: not certain it's actually Nick Benito. 98 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, interesting. 99 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: Well, in other news, we've got to start talking about 100 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 4: this DC candidacy. 101 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 7: Shout out to Dak hopefully he does won the. 102 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: Award, but we got to touch on this DC candidate 103 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 4: interviews process so far the Cowboys. 104 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 7: Shout out to Nick Harris for doing the research on this. 105 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: He did go back and look at how many interviews 106 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: or DC candidate interviews the Cowboys have conducted since. 107 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 7: Back to nineteen seventy three. 108 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 4: He did report that some have not been on record, 109 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: but this year has been the most that they've ever interviewed. 110 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 7: The most candidates so to speak, and he did, of course. 111 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: Note that you know that was in place with the 112 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 4: Rooney Reel Rooney rule not put in place until twenty twenty. 113 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 4: So talking about the in person interviews Jonathan Gannon, former 114 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: head coach for Arizona, you have Chris Parker, Christian Parker, 115 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: past game coordinator, DB's coach in Philly Cowboys looking into 116 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: Deronte Jones. He was one of their first in person interviews. 117 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: The Vikings, DB's pass game coordinator, and I believe Ian 118 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: Rappaport reported that they are still interested in Jim Leonard, 119 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: but of course they can't talk to him until the 120 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 4: Broncos season is ending. So big picture, talking about these 121 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 4: candidates so far, one which one has caught your eye. 122 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 7: The most, ladies anybody? 123 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 6: I would say Parker just because I think lesser known 124 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 6: kind of outside of football circles, you know, kind of 125 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 6: not as mainstream a name as some of the others, 126 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 6: and some of us who were old remember like when 127 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 6: Jim Leonard played and all all that kind of stuff 128 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 6: where you follow college football and you know that he 129 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 6: coordinated for Wisconsin and things like that. But just really 130 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 6: interesting that Parker and than Jones, right, that they are 131 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 6: past game coordinators under Vic. 132 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 5: Fangio right for the eight goals. 133 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 6: And for Flores Ryan Flores with the Vikings, and so 134 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 6: I just find it also interested in of course Jim 135 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 6: Leonard a former defensive back. So I just find it 136 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 6: very interesting that all of them work more like DB's 137 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 6: and kind of past game rather than d line. Now 138 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 6: Aaron Whitecotton, who's the current Dallas Cowboys defensive line coach, 139 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 6: also got an interview. But everything else is like on 140 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 6: the back end and working with the pass game rather 141 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 6: than focusing more deficiencies. 142 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 5: I know what you struggle at. I mean, I agree, 143 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 5: I agree that, and maybe maybe I'm reading too much 144 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 5: into that. No, no, no, there's nothing. It's it's it's 145 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 5: a pattern. 146 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 9: And I mean we heard we heard, ye right, I 147 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 9: said loud to myself. 148 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 5: Okay, be loud and proud. 149 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 9: I was like that, Sorry, But no, I do think, 150 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 9: like to Christie's point, you do see a pattern with 151 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 9: a lot of these gentlemen. They have interviewed our secondary coaches, 152 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 9: our gentlemen there, and I think I thought that's important 153 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 9: because you've been talking about it. I know you didn't 154 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 9: talked about it. Is this secondary has not played up 155 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 9: to par and where you are with this secondary, you 156 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 9: really are, like we talked about Duran Blank coming off 157 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 9: of another surgery. You have a savon revel that is 158 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 9: coming back out of the a cl seeing trying to 159 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 9: see him build some confidence. You're in a place where 160 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 9: you're kind of really rebuilding this secondary. Even from the 161 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 9: safety position. You got some like no guarantees that a 162 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 9: Donovan Wilson is going to return or yeah. And then 163 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 9: Malie Cooker, I think he has does he have one 164 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 9: more year or is this he has one more year. 165 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 5: Time for a rehaul? 166 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 9: And I think Dallas is you know, attacking this, you 167 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 9: know in the right way. I think they have a 168 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 9: lot of what good things going for him up front. 169 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 9: When you talk about Christian Parker though, I'm really excited 170 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 9: about him because just a little bit of time that 171 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 9: I've gotten to kind of do some digging on him 172 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 9: as a person, how he likes to teach, how detail 173 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 9: oriented oriented he is. Christy brought up a fantastic point 174 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 9: about who he's been coached under, who he has coached 175 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 9: under in Vic Fangio, as we know, one of the 176 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 9: most versatile defensive coordinators, one of the more fluid. 177 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 5: Ones as well. These guys. 178 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 9: You know that Philly secondary place extremely disciplined, and I 179 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 9: want to point out Philly. 180 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 5: Took a took a risk, y'all. 181 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 9: I mean, they double dipped in the freak in the 182 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 9: draft and the freaking draft, and then they let go 183 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 9: a lot of their veteran guys and they bet on 184 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 9: those young guys to come play and they and they 185 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 9: were one of the most technically sound groups that we 186 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 9: watched all year, I know on film that I watched 187 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 9: all year. I just you're talking about Corgnon Mitchell, Yes, yes, yes, yes, 188 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 9: oh yes, Quanya Mitchell and Cooper gjen They let go 189 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 9: of some of those older safeties, older corners, and they 190 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 9: took a risk, and those guys came out there and 191 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 9: played really good football. And also to something that doesn't 192 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 9: get mentioned to me that I think is important is 193 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 9: the linebackers. 194 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 5: A lot of the time with teams are going to. 195 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 9: Be working with secondary coaches and stuff like that depend 196 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 9: on how much coverage they're having to do. Phillies linebackers 197 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 9: was one of the better teams against the pass when 198 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 9: it comes to the linebacker position. 199 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 5: Kobe Dean has. 200 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 9: His little maps, but I say all that to say 201 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 9: that we know that Dallas really struggled there this year. 202 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 9: So I'm looking at, like, what are they looking for? 203 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 9: I think they looking they want this team. 204 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 5: To cover better. 205 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 9: They're tired of giving up big plays. They're tired of 206 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 9: Like another thing about Philly's defense, their secondary comes up 207 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 9: and tackles very physical at the point of attack. So, 208 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 9: and with Gannon, how are you ladies feeling about that? 209 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 9: Because I feel like the fan base is like men. 210 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 5: But I mean the numbers speak for themselves. 211 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 9: When he was with the Philadelphia Eagles, I mean they 212 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 9: were tenth and a total defense his first season and 213 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 9: his second season, I mean they were second in total defense, 214 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 9: first and past defense, eighth and scoring defense. They led 215 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 9: the NFL with sacks with seventy. I mean, these guys 216 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 9: could get after it. So I'm wondering, like how y'all 217 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 9: feel about Gann because I'm kind of like nobody. 218 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody people. 219 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: I'm kind of like torn between like and yay, like 220 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: you know, because I think it's what tree he worked 221 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: under compared to one I was trying to be. 222 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 8: I think anyone connected to the Flues is going to 223 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 8: be a thumbs. 224 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 7: Down on ranted than I feel like Iberflues did. 225 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: But I think that when you hear, like she said, 226 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: the coaching tree, because when you hear about like a 227 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: Cayl Shanhan, you're like, oh, this guy came from Cal 228 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 4: Shannon coaching tree. Okay, Well, when you hear the lack 229 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 4: of sens that Eberflus had, of course seeing it this 230 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 4: past season, and you hear that Jonathan Gannon comes from 231 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 4: that tree, it's like. 232 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 5: Be turned off. You know what do you think, Christy? 233 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's kind of a And we talked 234 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 6: a little bit about it last week when I posed 235 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 6: the question and open ended, no no judgment on my part, 236 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 6: but how does everyone feel about having a defensive coordinator 237 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 6: who has never called plays at the NFL level? That's 238 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 6: right and now now, and and the reason I asked 239 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 6: that is I see kind of these three candidates and 240 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 6: again there. 241 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 5: Will be there. 242 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 6: There are more only ones. But the thing about the 243 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 6: Joneses in the past is they have preferred not only players, 244 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 6: excuse me, coordinators with head coaching experience. I think that's 245 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 6: a little more recent, but who've had experience call and 246 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 6: plays and stuff, and with Schottenheimer. I think that's the 247 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 6: influence there of kind of these names that aren't is 248 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 6: mainstream to us, that maybe aren't is well known, Uh 249 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 6: certainly don't have the previous relationships that the Joneses have 250 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 6: had with some of these interview with some of these candidates, 251 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 6: or they're not from the tree, from the eber Flush 252 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 6: tree or the Marinelli tree, or you know, you can 253 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 6: go back to the offensive days, the Ernie zampezi uh 254 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 6: tree on the offensive side of the ball. But here's 255 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 6: the thing. When you talk about Parker and Jones and 256 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:11,479 Speaker 6: we're saying that they were with the Eagles and the Vikings, 257 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 6: Schottenheimer in this offense went against those two defenses this 258 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 6: year and they gave them fits. 259 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 5: Right, So that's part of the there. 260 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 6: So I see the emergence of those candidates in particular 261 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 6: as being as showing how influential Schottenheimer is in this process. 262 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 5: That's fair, I mean, which, yeah, no, that's fair. 263 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 7: I wanted to know, like the biggest thing that. 264 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 10: Also Dallas had was like the adaptability aspect of it, 265 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 10: like mid game adjustments, and from what I was able 266 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 10: to like look at a little bit, I felt as if, 267 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 10: of course they can't talk to Jim Leonard till the 268 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 10: playoffs are done. 269 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 7: But I feel like Jim Leonard. 270 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: Had more of that like in game adjustments type of 271 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 4: skill so to speak. 272 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 6: And saw it firsthand, exact game in Denver exactly. 273 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 4: So, so how far i'd say, how much does that 274 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: weigh into with that aspect, because you've talked, they've talked 275 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 4: about how they want. 276 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 7: A scheme flexibility, they've. 277 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: Talked about how they want all these different characteristics, but 278 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: adaptability has to be one of them, which is something 279 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: that you know, Shoddy even said. So how much do 280 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: y'all feel like those guys fit that sort of skill 281 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: or who does the best. 282 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 6: But let's say, let's say let's say all coordinators try 283 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 6: and be adaptable influsive defense from the first quarter to 284 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 6: the second quarter or any adjustments in halftime. 285 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: Did your pass rushers. 286 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 6: Get better in the game. Did you improve your personnel 287 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 6: on the back side or at linebacker at any points 288 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 6: during the game. 289 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 5: No, I'm it's the truth, though. 290 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 9: I mean, it's a it's a unit for a reason, 291 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 9: and I know it's like something that's important. I mean, 292 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 9: this is the defensive end heavy class. Do you think 293 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 9: we ain't looking at it as Joe is. 294 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 5: But as far as the I'm on so I'm on 295 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 5: the fence. 296 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 9: I think you bring up a good point, Nicole, about 297 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 9: the in game adjustments and a guy, you know, to 298 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 9: Christie's point, a gentleman that has been there before, has 299 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 9: done it before. 300 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 5: I think a lot of teams. 301 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 9: I mean, what if Dallas is in a place to 302 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 9: where they look at this window, right they look at 303 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 9: say they resigned pickings, Say they bring it back, Say 304 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 9: they bring back Davonte Williams, Say they bring. 305 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 5: Back these guys. Dak Prescott is aging. I don't. 306 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 9: I've told people I think that he's gonna play for 307 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 9: a while. I think he has the body to play 308 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 9: for a while and the smarts to play for a while. 309 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 9: But with his prime time here, do you want to 310 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 9: take a risk on a guy that is coming in 311 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 9: and this is his first time calling plays now. I'm 312 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 9: also of the mindset that a lot of our favorite 313 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 9: play callers that we like. 314 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 5: Somebody had to give them a shot. 315 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 7: That's fair. 316 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 9: They're not going to You're not gonna know what they 317 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 9: are until somebody gives them a shot. Shot shout out 318 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 9: to Al Hair is getting an interview with the Washington Commanders. 319 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 9: People you have sometimes in this business, we look at 320 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 9: it listen like a Sean McVay. 321 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 5: Some of these young guys, somebody just gave them a shot. 322 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 9: So it's it's one of those in between things where 323 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 9: it's like, yeah, you can go with the old salty 324 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 9: dog that you know that's gonna come in here and 325 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 9: do the business. But then at the same time, maybe 326 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 9: you give somebody a shot. Maybe you give somebody a 327 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 9: shot and maybe they work out. It's that's not why's not. 328 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 8: I think this whole run is to the close point 329 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 8: how she how she opened Our show's most exciting is 330 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 8: because of how different this approach is two years past. 331 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 8: And then to Christie's point talking about you know, recently 332 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 8: they have gone with DC's who have that former head 333 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 8: coach experience. Again, is the only one on this list 334 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 8: right that stands out to me. It also stands out 335 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 8: that these are hot candidates other places as well, Like 336 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 8: the Packers have interviewed everyone that the Cowboys have interviewed 337 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 8: in person. 338 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 7: I think that speaks volumes as well. 339 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 8: And when you bring up the vic Fangios of the world, 340 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 8: there's only a select few who had the experience the 341 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 8: play calling, right, and I think what Shody is, who, 342 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 8: what type of coach Shody is, It kind of has 343 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 8: to match the defense. I think that was a lot 344 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 8: of the clash this year. You kind of brought the 345 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 8: old school the very predictable of what was coming next, 346 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 8: and the Cowboys defense was predictable. So it's predictable to us, 347 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 8: it's predictable to the other side. So I think for me, 348 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 8: the Christian Parker is the most exciting out of who's 349 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 8: been in the building and actually interviewed in person thus 350 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 8: far because of what they're known to do with the Eagles, right. 351 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 8: And I also think that him not calling plays, to 352 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 8: Christy's point, at any level college or here is the 353 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 8: most concerning. But at this point, without being funny, like 354 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 8: you can only kind of go up, please, we had 355 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 8: somebody in here who called plays. 356 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 9: That's another thing too, is that I did hear from 357 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 9: someone in the building that the two interviews went really well. 358 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: They are very high on both of these gentlemen. 359 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 9: I got to hear a former coach talk about kind 360 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 9: of the process and what they have them do park 361 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 9: Parker and Jones. Rather I apologize, I got to talk 362 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 9: to a former coach about just kind of what the 363 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 9: process is like when they're interviewing and stuff, and it's 364 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 9: very detailed. I mean, they want to know that you 365 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 9: took the time to look at the film from last year, 366 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 9: that you're studying that what can you bring here and 367 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 9: all that stuff. So I don't know. I guess I 368 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 9: do have a question from y'all because I know we're 369 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 9: about to go and break. 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Nicole Hutcheson, Breonna Aldus, 424 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 4: Christie Scales, i Asha Morrison. 425 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 7: I usually wants your question. 426 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 5: He said he's gonna spice, spice some stiff up I have. 427 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 9: I was gonna ask because I guess, I guess we 428 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 9: talk about it. 429 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 5: But I want to know, is this an appealing job? 430 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 9: I feel like it's a mixed bag depending on what 431 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 9: you ask, because I want to ask you, ladies, do 432 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 9: y'all think that this is appealing appealing job depending on 433 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 9: the candidates, Like I think it's especially with so many 434 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 9: other openings being existing right now? Is this a job 435 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 9: that people you think want to take on? It is 436 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 9: is from what the defense was last year. It's some work. 437 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 7: So I'm asking that's a fair question. I I feel 438 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 7: like it. 439 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: Yes, of course it is appealing. This is the Dallas Cowboys. 440 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 4: Everybody wants to work at this organization. 441 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's why I asked, was gonna get mess? 442 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 7: You're childish. I hate you for this. 443 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 4: I'm trying to beat around the bush for this one. 444 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: I can say that in terms of like the history 445 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 4: of the organization, right, everyone wants to be a part 446 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: of this rich history. 447 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 7: Now is an appealing job. 448 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 4: Because if you just look at this past year, the 449 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: year before that. Yeah, I'll just say these past two years, 450 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: this defense, I mean, it's everybody you can look it up, 451 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 4: it has. 452 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 7: Not been what it was supposed to be. And so. 453 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 4: I can say it's a bit of both because even 454 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 4: when you look at Philly, I didn't see the report 455 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 4: where they said that Philly's job is not one of 456 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 4: the most sought out actors either, So I had to 457 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 4: throw that. But I mean, I feel like, if you're 458 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: just thinking about, oh my god, working for the Dallas Cowboys, absolutely, 459 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: But if you're thinking about what this defense looked like, 460 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 4: if you're gonna have real control over this defense, if 461 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: you're going to be able to, you know, run your 462 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 4: defense like you want to run it, I'm not so sure. 463 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 7: Not so sure. 464 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 5: I hate you for this question. 465 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 9: You didn't have to break up the fact that they 466 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 9: was like, I'm good, but dermoy was like, I'm good too, Bro. 467 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 5: You asked the questions. I had to at least throw 468 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 5: a little salt over there. And no, that's hilarious that 469 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 5: like it's just like, nah, we're good. 470 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 7: It's crazy. 471 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 4: But I said what I say, Okay, that's not even short, short, sweet, 472 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: Please Chris, one. 473 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 5: Of one of you, I would love to hear. Is 474 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 5: this an appealing job? 475 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 7: Y'all? Like it? I want to hear from you, it 476 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 7: is an appealing job. 477 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 8: My question, Oh my gosh, y'all are a mess or 478 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 8: a DC? 479 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 5: Is it an appealing john? 480 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 8: You get proper, Let me get proper. Let me get proper. 481 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 8: So this is how I imagine the conversation goes. This 482 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 8: is what's replaying in my head, just because Stephen Jones 483 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 8: and the press are linebackers corner not good, that's our 484 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 8: number one, right, that's Stephen Jones from words, I feel 485 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 8: like and this is what gives me some confidence by 486 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 8: the names we're looking at young fresh right, not necessarily unestablished, 487 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 8: but unestablishing the position that they're getting hired for. I 488 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 8: feel like the conversations again, we were told that Shottenheimer 489 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 8: is going to have input, right, so I feel like 490 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 8: the conversation is Stephen Jones Jerry Jones talking about, Hey, 491 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 8: this ain't good right here, this is we know overall, 492 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 8: but this is like, you know, we're building up front. 493 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 5: This is a hot mess. 494 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 8: And I feel like Schottenheimer had a lot to do 495 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 8: with the names that we're looking at in the fact 496 00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 8: that all these coaches have some dB background, right, That's 497 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 8: how That's what gives me hope, hope that when these 498 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 8: candidates come in that they're talking to Schottenheimer, they're seeing 499 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 8: the vision because I think a lot of people just 500 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 8: assume people want this job because of the star and 501 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 8: then because this is the offense that could arguably continue 502 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 8: to be one of the best going forward. If everyone 503 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 8: gets signed, everything gets taken care of. But I also 504 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 8: think the Brian Flores was a little lappable to me 505 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 8: because it was so lateral and yeah, and so I 506 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 8: think his commitment to re sign where he's at whose 507 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 8: offense is to me still real questionable in the air. 508 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 8: It's not just Dallas offense is good. 509 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 7: It's gonna make my job easier. 510 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 8: I think your turnover for DC is a red flag 511 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 8: to anybody taking that job. These are young candidates, So 512 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 8: guess what young candidates with families and young children. 513 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 5: They have to move and live and adapt. 514 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 8: Who wants to come here for a year And if 515 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 8: it doesn't go how it's supposed to go and they 516 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 8: miss the playoffs again, you're out of a job, right, 517 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 8: Like no, And I think it's safe to say overall 518 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 8: nationally the story is and is known. The front office 519 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 8: kind of gets more involved than others, right, So I. 520 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 7: Think that's going to really be. 521 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 8: The focus of when these candidates coming in, because if 522 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 8: you have a guy who doesn't has been unestablished, yes, 523 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 8: I think you kind of oh this is you know, 524 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 8: this is attractive. 525 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 5: You offer this big job. 526 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 8: But if other teams are also seeking out these hot candidates, 527 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 8: and again, what does that pay look like? 528 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 14: Like? 529 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 8: All those things matter, and I think you have to 530 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 8: think of pay control and turnover. 531 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 5: Christ this is one of the lesser paying. 532 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 9: Or what you say, I'm going to kick you out. 533 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 6: Please, but they're I like your point about some of 534 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 6: these younger candidates with their families and going someplace where 535 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 6: you think your head coach is going to be there 536 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 6: for a few more years or several more years. I 537 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 6: think that works in the favor of the Cowboys because 538 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 6: Schottenheimer established himself as first year. I know they didn't 539 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 6: make the playoffs, but the Joneses they like shoddy. Overall, 540 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 6: He's building a great culture, did a great job with 541 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 6: the offense, and so if you come in and you 542 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 6: can help be a savior for the defense, I think 543 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 6: that if I look at the Cowboys, I see more 544 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 6: stability for the next few years, because usually when you're 545 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 6: blown out it's not like eber Flus and Zimmer where 546 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 6: the defense hasn't played well. 547 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 5: It's usually major staff turnover because. 548 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 6: The head coach has been fired and the new people 549 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 6: come in and bring their own people. Okay, So I 550 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 6: think that works in a favor because they see Schottenheimer 551 00:27:54,520 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 6: as establishing himself here. My questions and the interview process 552 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 6: would be, we know you have two first round picks, 553 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 6: and I know you can't guarantee me who you're going 554 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 6: to take because you know you're not going. 555 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 5: To be there. 556 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 6: But what kind of commitment are you going to make 557 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 6: to the defensive side of the ball. And not just 558 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 6: in terms of I'm not saying, oh, I have to 559 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 6: have the first to you know, say, both picks in 560 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 6: the first round and use them both on defense, but 561 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 6: I'm talking about the commitment of the balance of your 562 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 6: salary cap on so much going to the offense. Right, 563 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 6: But at the same time, you currently have three defensive 564 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 6: tackles on your roster that have that count twenty million 565 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 6: or more against the cap next year, Okay, with Kenny Clark, 566 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 6: with Quinn Williams and with Osa so so. But the 567 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 6: other parts of the ball, the other positions on the 568 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 6: defensive side of the ball, Bland, you know, is it 569 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 6: has a big commitment. But Trayvon's off the books anyway, 570 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 6: what kind of commitment? And those are the questions I 571 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 6: would be asking if I am thinking about if I 572 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 6: were coming in as defensive coordinator. But to answer your 573 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 6: overall question, is this still an attractive job? I would 574 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 6: say personnel wise and seeing what's in the cupboard. What 575 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 6: groceries do I have to work with to cook this meal? 576 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 6: That cupboard's pretty bare right now at linebacker and defensive 577 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 6: back especially. 578 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 5: But you know, if I think that. 579 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 6: The team's going to make the commitment, I look at 580 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 6: all the other things. To Nicole's point, I think there 581 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 6: is still some cachet and working for the Cowboys, and 582 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 6: I see a stable thing with Shotenheimer at least for 583 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 6: the next few years. Then overall, yes, but I need 584 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 6: the commitment personnel wise, and can I bring in how 585 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 6: many You know you're going to bring bring in your 586 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 6: own people too, right if you're the coordinator, And that's 587 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 6: the thing. It's not like and again we're not saying 588 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 6: that it's gonna necessarily be Jones or Parker that come in, right, 589 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 6: But when you're leaving a staff, and it's not like 590 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 6: he's going to bring a bunch of the Eagles coaches 591 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 6: with him, or if Jones comes down, he's not rating 592 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 6: Brian Flores' staff and bringing a lot of people with him. 593 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 6: I can't I mat, you know, maybe a couple. 594 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 7: You have to start. 595 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not like Flu's coming in and you've got 596 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 6: the guys that worked with him, you know, with the 597 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 6: Bears and even before that, So yeah, they got jobs 598 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 6: already and it would be lateral moves. So it's not 599 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 6: that the other teams have to release these coaches, right, 600 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 6: So that's an interesting thing to consider as well, is 601 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 6: what about the position coaches underneath. 602 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 8: I kind of look at it a little different with 603 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 8: the Schottenheimer thing, ironically, because to me, if Schottenheimer is 604 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 8: getting more rope to play with, if you will, and 605 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 8: gets the end put and gets brings in his guys, 606 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 8: and of course in our mind we were thinking this works, 607 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 8: but we also had the number one offense and couldn't 608 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 8: make it work. So I think if Shottenheimer gets all this, 609 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 8: you know, leeway to do what he wants to do 610 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 8: and it doesn't work out, I kind of feel like 611 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 8: he would be in the hot seat in his second year, 612 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 8: as unfair as that might be, just historically of how 613 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 8: other head coaches had more time to develop, because what 614 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 8: was it, what was. 615 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 7: It nine head coach vacancies. 616 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 5: Now with McDermott, it's yeah wild. 617 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 8: So if Harball type of guy, a Tomlin type of guy, 618 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 8: a McDermott type of guys. 619 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 9: Takes a year off and they and they come back. 620 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I'm like, I don't I don't know if 621 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 8: that's for me as a DC appealing because I know 622 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 8: I just saw you guys fry Eberflus all season. 623 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 7: You know, like I'm a young guy, I'm coming in, 624 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 7: I haven't. 625 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 8: Done this before, and you know, of course you're hoping 626 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 8: for the support, but they know how this business works. 627 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 8: And if another place who isn't dead last in defense, 628 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 8: you know, has something a little bit stronger, like I 629 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 8: think the packer's job might be a little bit more 630 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 8: appealing personally, but you know, and that's. 631 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 7: Who you're going to get. 632 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 5: Everybody. 633 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 8: True, the Dallas Cowboys have interviewed in person, still have 634 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 8: the packers. 635 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 4: So when you're going back to the control part, it's 636 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 4: knowing that like what Christy was saying, is are you 637 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 4: willing to go out and get the players that we 638 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 4: need to succeed? Like that's been the biggest of course, 639 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 4: you know they brought into Quinn Williams, but other than 640 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 4: that and Kenny Clark that was for the trade. But like, 641 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: other than that, like they got lucky with Jadavion Clowney, 642 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 4: let's keep it a stack, but like in Carl lost 643 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 4: in the year before that, other than that, like there's 644 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 4: been not that much success from the defensive side of 645 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: the ball with the guys that they have gone out 646 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 4: and gone in free agency and things like that. So 647 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 4: it's also how much you know, are they trusting the 648 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 4: fact that they will have that opportun tunity to go 649 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 4: out and get those players. 650 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 5: I think it's going to know that it's important here. 651 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 9: Well yeah, I think this this this to your point earlier, 652 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 9: this is pivotal for this This hire is one of 653 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 9: the most pivotal HighRes I think in a while, because 654 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 9: it's not just about you just mentioned Brie the head coach, 655 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 9: new head coach. You know, no matter how we felt 656 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 9: about what they did on the offensive side of the 657 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 9: ball last year, well last year this past season, we'll 658 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 9: take the line we don't even know what it uh 659 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 9: last season is uh, you know, it falls under the 660 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 9: head coach. Unfortunately, that's just his game, that's just how 661 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 9: it goes. And so Shoddy does have a big responsibility 662 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 9: and making sure he gets a guy in here that 663 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 9: is successful. 664 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 5: But also too, there's so much Christie's. 665 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 9: Point, there is so much talent sprinkled through this team 666 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 9: on the offensive side of the ball, Guys that you 667 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 9: want to get the best years out of Ceedee Lamb. 668 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 5: In his prime, and monetary commitment. 669 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 9: And monetary commitment, and like there's so much going on 670 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 9: riding on this decision being right. And then also to 671 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 9: your locker room. You have to show your locker room. 672 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 9: And again much respect to eber Flus, but like this 673 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 9: locker room was not solid this past year. I'm talking 674 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 9: about specifically on the defensive side of the ball. From 675 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 9: the things we heard about, the miscommunications, like all of 676 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 9: those things. You are also in a place to where 677 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 9: you are trying to get this locker room to take 678 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 9: you seriously with this hire, and you take and taken seriously. 679 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 5: Another thing to. 680 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 9: Call y'all, like these draft picks. 681 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 5: They got to hit. 682 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 9: That's what I was hearing from Christy absolutely, because that's 683 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 9: what I was hearing when she was talking about the 684 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 9: salary cap and. 685 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 5: All the money on the offensive side of the ball. 686 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 6: You can't have any more Taco Charles. 687 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 9: You cannot not hit on the defensive side of the ball. 688 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 5: With these draft picks, you've gotta. 689 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 9: Be slammed dunk guys, And luckily for the Cowboys, there's 690 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 9: a lot of slammed up guys. I can't wait to 691 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 9: see how many first round grades come out of this 692 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 9: class because there's some really good talent at the top level. 693 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 9: Dallas should be able to go BPA at twelve and 694 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 9: live their life and go about their business and at twenty. 695 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 5: Thank you, Green Bay. Please, I'm listin it. 696 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 4: I want to stop you right there because we're going 697 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 4: to talk about that in our next segment. We got 698 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 4: to take our second break here on Girls Talk, Boys Talk, 699 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 4: presented by Visionline. 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Don't miss your chance to audition for America Sweethearts. 746 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 8: Learn more at Dallascowboys Cheerleaders dot Com auditions, Welcome. 747 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 7: Back into Girls Top Boys Talk. 748 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 4: Excuse me sorry, presented my vision line in the SBbc studio. 749 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 4: I'm Nicole had just sent alongside Christy Scales, Breonna Aldrich, 750 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 4: Aisha Morrison and the ladies. 751 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 7: Is promised we got to touch on some of these candidates. 752 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 5: Wow, I don't want to say candidates. 753 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 7: It's fine. 754 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 4: Some of these defensive players, defensive ends specifically coming into 755 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 4: this year's draft. Ayisha, who stands out to you the 756 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 4: most that could potentially land. 757 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 7: With the Cowboys? 758 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 9: Well, I mean with Dallas. Like I said this, this 759 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 9: draft is a very linebacker, defensive end, cornerback. 760 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 5: Thank you Lord, Look at Jesus. 761 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 9: Look out he do it for us, rich class, and 762 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 9: I mean we If you watch the championship game the 763 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 9: other night, you have the opportunity to watch Ruben Bay 764 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 9: junior defensive end out of Miami. 765 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 5: This dude is six three, two. 766 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 9: Seventy five, has a lot of size at him on him, 767 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 9: and he's a nugget him. Just twenty one one thing 768 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 9: that I've picked up on as I started looking into 769 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 9: the draft this year, you got a lot of guys 770 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 9: coming out young man. It's some babies coming out. Some 771 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 9: of these guys are twenty they might be twenty one when. 772 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 5: The season starts. 773 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 6: Different from the last couple of years with the COVID kids. Yes, 774 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 6: it's at age twenty three, twenty four. 775 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 5: Yes, so that's that's something that's different. 776 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 9: You are seeing a lot like these guys are young, young, young, 777 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 9: and there are some of these there, and then there's 778 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 9: some of these guys that are returning. But Dallas, I 779 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 9: think is in need of a speed rusher. I think 780 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 9: that Dallas is in need of somebody that can really 781 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 9: bend the corner. We saw Donovan Azaraku develop as a 782 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 9: run stopper this year and also too, I think he's 783 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 9: still working his hands. He's still trying to make sure 784 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 9: he keeps guy's hands on him off of him. I'm 785 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 9: really looking for him to improve his pray play strength. 786 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 5: But if you don't bring. 787 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 9: Back a clowney, I pray you do, but you need 788 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 9: somebody to pair with him, you absolutely do. The defensive 789 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 9: interior is kind of stacked now. Reuben Bain is a 790 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 9: gentleman that I think some people are kind of like, 791 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 9: is he a speedy end. I think that Dallas is 792 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 9: in need of a speed rusher. As I said, like 793 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 9: a lot of their edges, and we got to see 794 00:39:59,040 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 9: that with the lack. 795 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 5: Of pas rush. We're powerful guys. 796 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 9: But not twitchy, not guys that are gonna win like 797 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 9: with quick pressures you were seeing. I remember during the 798 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 9: season we saw how many times like the team, like 799 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 9: the team will be led in pressures by the defensive tackles. 800 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 9: You need a defensive end that can stress the defense, 801 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 9: and I really think that Reuben Bain is a guy 802 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 9: that can do that. 803 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 5: He can also move inside. He has a great pad. 804 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 9: Level to play to be so young to know how 805 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 9: to not get too high. His motor is crazy. He 806 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 9: has crazy explosion off of the line of scrimmage. He 807 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 9: has great foot quickness. He has great size as well. 808 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 9: I mean two seventy five to sixty three. This is 809 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 9: a guy that can play on the outside. You can 810 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 9: line them out wide but also too. You saw Miami 811 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 9: do that a lot. It really puts a lot of 812 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 9: stress on tackles because he's powerful and then he's also 813 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 9: fast off the line. I think you'll be able to 814 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 9: use him in the stunt game. I think he can 815 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 9: really grow into, you know, a player that can change 816 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 9: a game. 817 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 5: And he's a leader, So I'm I think that he's. 818 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 9: A gentleman that Dallas will have the oppera to if 819 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 9: he's If he's there, we'll see if he gets. 820 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 5: Pig waights number one. You think he's gonna we'll see. 821 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 5: You think he's gonna go. 822 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 6: People are concerned to lowest number twelve. 823 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 9: People are concerned about the arm length, but I don't 824 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 9: think that that's gonna matter once he tests. 825 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 5: I think I'm shocked. 826 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 6: I thought he was going to go a lot of 827 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 6: It's not a slam dunk that he's going to be. 828 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 9: I think that it will become a slam dunk eventually. 829 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 5: But unfortunately people. 830 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 9: See short arms, you know, even though he has a 831 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 9: lot of size. Yes, look past in the measurables. His 832 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 9: medicals are going to be important. All that stuff, and 833 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 9: see what they say. But this is a violent player. 834 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 9: I don't know if he's going to be there for Dallas. However, 835 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 9: there are some defensive ends that are also going to 836 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 9: be there. I think that Dallas also could look at 837 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 9: a linebacker that can pass rush. 838 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 5: There's quite a few. But is he a pass rusher. 839 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 5: Sawney Styles can. 840 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 9: I also think the gentleman from Texas can he is 841 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 9: what is his last name? Arvel Reese is a guy 842 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 9: as well, But Sawny Styles is a is a guy 843 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 9: that obviously can get after the passer, can get after 844 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 9: for the pastor as well. But Anthony Hill Jr. I 845 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 9: think he's more of a later guy. He's more of 846 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 9: a twenty than a twelve. He can go, he can go. 847 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 9: I'm really excited to see if he's gonna be somebody 848 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 9: that people look at as I'm gonna bring you in 849 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 9: as a pass rusher. Sometimes I'm gonna use you in 850 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 9: some spy opportunities and things like that. He also is 851 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 9: pretty good and he has some flex and coverage as well. 852 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 9: So Dallas got options, y'all. Dallas can go BPA, you 853 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 9: hear me, Dallas can go BPA and really get a 854 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 9: really good player and a young player. They're gonna get 855 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 9: a very young player in these Thank you Green Bay 856 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 9: twelve and twenty. Does that concern you though, that these 857 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 9: guys are so much younger than we've previously seen, im 858 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 9: SC having to adapt to that NFL level playing kind of? 859 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 9: But I think you know a lot of coaches look 860 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 9: at it as they get to mold you. True, because 861 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 9: a lot of the times when guys, when they play 862 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 9: in multiple, multiple multiple schemes, go through the transport all 863 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 9: this stuff, they got all these different voices, all these 864 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 9: different things. But when they can win, the NFL can 865 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 9: set the standard for you sooner. I'm sure there's some 866 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,439 Speaker 9: coaches that love getting a young guy and being able 867 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 9: to kind of mold them unto the guy that you 868 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 9: want them to be. But I'm telling y'all, like Dallas 869 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 9: should be able to improve this defense in the first round. 870 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 5: Obviously, second round is what second round? Okay, okay, okay, y'all, y'all, 871 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 5: I got a question. 872 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 9: No, wait, wait, wait, wait, what what if that if 873 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 9: it's Seattle, Seattle, do. 874 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 5: They big one? 875 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 9: What type of conflict are they gonna get for. 876 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 5: For DeMarcus Lawrence? 877 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 7: Can it be? 878 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 5: I don't think it can be higher than a three. 879 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 5: It can't be. But I take the third round. 880 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 6: But with that, you know, you can use it to 881 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 6: deal up into the second round if there's something maybe 882 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 6: maybe there's a guy that's all that's a major major 883 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 6: change over the last several years. I know that we 884 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 6: mentioned it a few weeks ago. But in the past, 885 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 6: when when compensatory picks were introduced by the league, you 886 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 6: could not trade them, and so you were if you 887 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 6: got a fifth round pick, then you took and by 888 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 6: the way, compensatory picks take place in between rounds, okay, 889 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 6: so you couldn't. You got to make the pick, but 890 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 6: you couldn't deal it. And then a few years back 891 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 6: they changed it where you can deal it and that's uh, 892 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 6: and package it with other picks or just straight up 893 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 6: you know, trade with it. 894 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 5: So that's a big, big deal, Dallas. Might you might 895 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 5: need you might, it could be. 896 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 6: It's already for you know, regular season. It is whether 897 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 6: they make, whether DeMarcus Lawrence wins a Super Bowl or not. 898 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 5: It's just a production. 899 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 15: I am. You're not going to get a third. 900 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 5: You think you're going to get a third. You a 901 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 5: third for how he's played this year. 902 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 15: It's not about how you It's about the contract. It's 903 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 15: about a fifth. 904 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 14: Okay that you could still if if you lose pick 905 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 14: ends with his contract, it's probably a third, but you're 906 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 14: not gonna get that till next year. 907 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 5: That made me throw. I was just hurious. I was 908 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 5: just curious because I was just like, I wonder, and we. 909 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 6: Should define compensatory picks real quickly. When you lose a 910 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 6: player in free agency and they go to another team, 911 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 6: then the league will award you compensatory picks. So if 912 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 6: you lose a big time player in free agency, like 913 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 6: a DeMarcus Lawrence, then you get something back compensatory draft picks. 914 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 6: And so most of them are like fifth or sixth round, 915 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 6: but depending on the contract, that kind of thing, then. 916 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 5: You you know, it can be higher. 917 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 9: Whose faults is it, Chris? Whose fault is it that 918 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 9: they only gonna get a fit? Who fault is? Who 919 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 9: do I blame? 920 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 15: Well, what happens is is other like like teams get 921 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 15: canceled out right, so we lose a guy, but we 922 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 15: pick up a guy, so it cancels out so like 923 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 15: you know, doubt'll left right and then Williams. We picked 924 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 15: up Williams and their their contracts are very similar, so 925 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 15: it's just cancel out so you don't get one for him. 926 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 4: But Lawrence's contract isn't similar to somebody else's on the time. 927 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 15: No, no, so you'll get something for Lawrence. But I 928 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 15: don't think it's. 929 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 9: Like it's not that much four Chris, not even a. 930 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 15: Four making what ten million? 931 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 12: This year? 932 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 15: It was it was a three year three point something 933 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 15: million or something. 934 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 5: They only get it's like ten million years Seattle. 935 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 15: I think it's three right. 936 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 4: Look at it. 937 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 5: That'll be good for wow. 938 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 7: All right? 939 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeo, well ladies, that's why it's so important for them 940 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 4: to get this defensive coordinator in here, so we can 941 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 4: start figuring out what are these players where? 942 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 7: Which of these players. 943 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 4: Kind of fit the scheme that they're trying to flexible 944 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 4: scheme that they're trying to fit. 945 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, and by the way, Lawrence's base was. 946 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 6: Five point one five million, and he was seven points 947 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 6: seven against the cap, So he signed for three years 948 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 6: thirty two million. So I know the average is over 949 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 6: ten million a year, but the cap hit for this 950 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 6: year was seven I'm rounding up seven points. 951 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 15: So the article I read it says the Cowboys will 952 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 15: receive two fifths for Jordan Lewis and DeMarcus Jordan, Jordan 953 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,240 Speaker 15: Lewis and DeMarcus Lawrence. 954 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 7: Okay, two fifths. 955 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 6: You can take. 956 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 15: Fowler and Gulston canceled out. 957 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, they might be able to move up into the 958 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 9: fourth depending on how they ran to the moon and stuff. 959 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 9: I totally forgot about Jordan and he had a good 960 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 9: year as well. Dallas is gonna need those picks. Dallas 961 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 9: is gonna need them depending on how the board falls, 962 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 9: especially with them not having you know, a second Yeah, yeah, 963 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 9: y'all pray well. 964 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 4: We're gonna keep diving into possible options and I want 965 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 4: to stick with cornerbacks Monday if we are Monday, but 966 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 4: if not, if the weather does not permit, we will 967 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 4: be here on Thursday, back here at nine am for 968 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 4: Girls Talk, Boys Talk. 969 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 7: But hopefully you do see us on Monday mornings. But 970 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 7: stay safe out there do that weather. 971 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 4: We gotta wrap up the show for Breonna Audirich, Christy Scales, 972 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 4: I use Morrison, do't gole ahead to and we'll Seey'll 973 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 4: back here next week. 974 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 975 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.