1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know from house stuff 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Josh Clark. There's Chuck Bryant. That's me. I mentioned myself already. 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Have I mentioned Jerry? Yeah? I think so. They just 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: keep getting worse and worse. Stuff that Cherry's over there. 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: We're all in the Christmas spirit. I think this is 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the last show we're recording this year, right, Yeah, we're 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: ahead of the game a little bit. Yep, so we 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: can have a coushy couple of weeks. So, um, we're hammered. 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Not true, no, not Yeah, you got your coffee. I 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: got my uh soda water laqua loquis soda water. Yeah. 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: My coffee is neither Spanish, nor Irish nor anything like that. 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: What a Spanish coffee? Oh, it's the better of the two. 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: What is it? Um? You get a little well it 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: depends on your on your recipe, but you get a 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: little bit of rum okay, uh, you get a little 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: bit of triple seck or I can't remember the other 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: name for it, um, but good triple seck. Put them 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: together in a like a tempered sniff ter or an 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Irish coffee class fire tempered. Make sure it's tempered, or 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: else you're about to hurt yourself. You light it um, 22 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: you like the it's gotta be high proof from you 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: like the rum uh triple sec combo. Just let it 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: burn out for a second, or you can blow it 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: out if you don't want to burn off too much 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: of the alcohol. And you add some espresso, some kalua 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: and then top it off with a little whip cream 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: and nut make Man, it's good stuff. And that's just 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: one version. There's plenty of other version of Spanish coffee 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: that makes Irish coffee look silly. They're just like I 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: don't put down Irish coffee much in the coffee and 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: drink it pretty much. It's also called the eye opener. Yeah. 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: I love the simplicity of the Irish just doing that 34 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: and I love that. Have you seen that country. I 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: don't know if it was a new one. Last week 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: I started watching The Simpsons again after like years off, 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: and it is it's awesome, man, it is back. There 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: was one. I don't know if it was new or not, 39 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: but Crusty Um syndicated himself around the world so he 40 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: could make a lot more money. So there's like a 41 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: Jamaican crusty. There's like a like all these and then 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: the Irish one. It was just like this depressed alcoholic 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: who would like sit at a at a table on 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: a chair and like the spare room didn't even do 45 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: that really yeah, and like we just drink and say 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: like these you know, really bleak depressing things. Was perfect 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: and he ended up with his own like stage show 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: on Broadway and everything as the Irish rusty. Yeah, that's 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: a good one. Have to check that out. Yeah. Uh, 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: that was my intro to pet psychics. Alright. You know 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: that cat sitting over there knew everything. I was about 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: to say, Oh yeah, not many people know we have 53 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: a studio cat. No, man, I wish we did. How 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: awesome would that be? Studio cat? Yeah, it'd be great 55 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: to get game in here, wasn't I it's already pretty 56 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: warm in here as it is. A cat would love that. Yeah. Um, 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: all right, So pet psychics fact or fiction? Uh? Their fiction? 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: Are we debunking right out of the thing? Well? You know, 59 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm I am of the forty and ilk all right, 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: Like I think that using science as a means of 61 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: avoiding scientific investigation of something is a slap in the 62 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: face of science, and that science should be used to 63 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: exhaust all avenues. And just because we can't currently explain 64 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: something using science doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I think 65 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: that there's a whole echelon of stuff out there that 66 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: does exist that we can't quite explain yet. Yeah. Sure, 67 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if pet psychics fall into that one, 68 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: but I'm wanted just overtly pooh pooh something out of 69 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: hand that said, I had a hard time like taking 70 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: this entire article seriously. Well, you want to know something, Yeah, 71 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: Emily just went to a pet psychic. I I thought 72 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: that there was probably like a nine percent chance that 73 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: something like that was going to come up. Yeah, you know, 74 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: we had to put old Lucy down. And Emily went 75 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: in the following week. We have a local pet psychic, 76 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: and I'm surprised there probably is, but um one near 77 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: our house. And she went and talk to this lady. 78 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: Was it comforting? It was? She said it was really interesting, 79 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: and um, there was less talk about Lucy and more 80 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: talk about like me and our other animals, and um, 81 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: she wouldn't tell me a whole lot because she didn't 82 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: want me to poke fun at it, you know, And 83 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 1: and I tried to be super supportive, and I was Um, 84 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: I thought every instinct I had two. Uh, you're like, 85 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: that sounds like a great neat. How much was it? Um? 86 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: But Emily, and she asked me not to say this, 87 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: So of course I'm going to say it. She is 88 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: getting books now herself to read and because she feels 89 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: like she is very intuitive with animals, and that she 90 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: is very intuitive with animals, and so she's gonna poke 91 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: around there and not to do it for a living 92 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: or anything to do with your own dogs at home. Yeah, 93 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: just to see if she can become more in tune 94 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: with our animals. And they are called animal intuitives sometimes 95 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: or communicators, not necessarily pet psychics, because that makes you 96 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: sound a little crazy. It seems to be like a 97 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: whole gamut of people that would fall under the umbrella 98 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: of pet psychics. Yeah, like a horse whisper or Caesar Milan, 99 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: some people might say, as an animal communicator that are 100 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: just maybe more in tune with the signals the animals 101 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: send out, and they can send signals to animals. Yea, Um, 102 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: but that I fully believe. Okay, So that's totally different 103 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: from what a person who claims to be a pet psychic, 104 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: says is going on. Well, yeah, but not always like 105 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: this lady Emily went to was sounded more like an 106 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: animal intuitive and communicator than uh, like a medium saying 107 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Lucy. She's in a better place. She's 108 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: playing with your grandfather in heaven. Right. But there are 109 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: pet psychics that claim to do that, yeah, and charge 110 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: people money for that. Yeah, just like real psychics. Um, 111 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: all right, so let's get into it. Well I thought 112 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: we already had. Well I guess we have. Um. I 113 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: just wanted to go ahead and drop that bomb about Emily. Um, 114 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I think you're in trouble. So pet psychics, now, she 115 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: doesn't listen, they they claim, depending on who they are, 116 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: there is a spectrum of pet psychic like you said, 117 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: that claim certain abilities, but some claim that they can 118 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: actually telepathically communicate with animals mind and like one step 119 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: beyond intuition, Like we're actually talking, right, Not only are 120 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: we talking, we're transferring images from one mind to another. UM. 121 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: In some cases they are talking like there's a pet 122 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: psychic um who claims that when she speaks to animals, um, 123 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: they respond to her in a childlike voice. The animals 124 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: have childlike voices, they speak like children. They do in 125 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Disney movies, So why not um, But the basically at 126 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: its most supernatural, I guess it's most extrasensory um pet psychics. 127 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: What they're claiming to do is a convergence of clairvoyance, 128 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: which is far sighte um, and telepathy, which is mind reading. 129 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: And they're putting these together. And then if you already 130 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: have a hard enough time swallowing that, you may have 131 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: an even harder time following it when you realize that 132 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: they're saying they're doing this with animals, which may or 133 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: may not even be self aware. Yeah, Like, it's tough too. 134 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: It's hard with humans to believe that someone might have 135 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: ESPN telepathy, and we speak the same language, so it 136 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: might be even a deeper reach to say that you 137 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: can do that with a dog. Let's say, okay, Emily 138 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: went to a pet psychic. Um. She went after Lucy 139 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: um passed on um basically to find out how Lucy 140 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: was doing. Yeah. I think she was just curious about 141 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: the She had been curious for a while, and this 142 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: afforded her an opportunity to go see a pet psychic. 143 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: I think like it gave her a good reason. Okay, 144 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: so that's one reason people go see pet psychics. Um 145 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: after the death of a pet. Another one is when 146 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: a pet is sick or injured or ailing, tell me 147 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: if it's time to go. Um, which, man, that's gotta 148 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: be a lot to put on a pet psychic. That's 149 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: a lot to put on a vet, you know, although 150 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: I think vets are kind of like, yeah, let's just 151 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: go ahead and do it. No, that's not true. Um, 152 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: And then what if the what if the pet is 153 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: acting like a jerk all of a sudden. Yeah, that's 154 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: another reason people, why pets. Is my dog acting out 155 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: or maybe my pet is lost? Can you tell me 156 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: where my pet is? Right, that's a little more of 157 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: a niche thing. Not all pet psychics will take on 158 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: those cases, my guess is because the success rate might 159 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: not be great and they don't want to, you know, 160 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: charge somebody for something and not provide the service that 161 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: they said they can. Yeah, because I mean, unless you 162 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: can talk to somebody into giving up their bread for 163 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: you just to say, yeah, your dog will be home 164 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, yeah, then you know, how 165 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: are you gonna work that you can't? But there are 166 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: anecdotal success stories of locating pets this way. If there 167 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: weren't this wouldn't be yeah around and a skeptic will 168 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: say this just luck and coincidence. I think the dog 169 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: was on its way home anyway, exactly. This pet psychic 170 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: didn't called to it with her mind, that's right, Uh, psychics. 171 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: Pet psychics say they, UM use electromagnetic energy to accomplish this, 172 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: that there's this energy field in the universe that science 173 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: hasn't quite figured out yet, but it exists, and we 174 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: are able to pick up on that energy and use 175 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: that energy to speak to your animals. Um, whether it's 176 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: a childlike voice or like I think most of them 177 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: generally do it, and like in pictures, which makes a 178 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: little more sense to me. Um. And this this this thing, 179 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: this electromagnetic energy. There's this guy who wrote a book. 180 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: His name is Jay Alan Boone and he wrote a 181 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: book called Kinship with All Life and it apparently is 182 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: the pet psychics Bible, and it's um kind of his 183 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: relationship with this German shepherd named Strongheart, which is a 184 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Hollywood dog that he cared for starting and I think 185 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties, UM, and who he became Uh, telepathically 186 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: linked with intuitively linked to um and basically Jay Alan 187 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: Boone wrote this book on how to Communicate with animals 188 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: and in it he mentions that all things are connected 189 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: by this thing called the primal cause. Minty Glorian's right, 190 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: and um, I think that's what the pet psychic would say. Well, 191 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: it's the electromagnetic energy. The point is that since it 192 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: binds all things, we can just kind of use that 193 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: too to connect to the mind of another thing, human 194 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: or animal, because we're all connected by this, right, it's thought. Uh. 195 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: Animal Plan actually hit a show for a little while 196 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: about ten years ago called the Pet Psychic and Um, 197 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: the lady on the or what's her name Fitzpatrick. Yes, 198 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: she claimed that she picked up this in childhood as 199 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: a result of a hearing loss um, although other people 200 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: say they pick it up as adults after studying it 201 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: and not necessarily born with a gift. But they just 202 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: studied how to be more in tune with animals, right, 203 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: And apparently a lot of them discovered that they had 204 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: this gift after they saw the Pet Psychic on Animal Planet? 205 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: Was that right? That's what Tracy says in this article. Okay, 206 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: I wonder what that sounds like one of those statements, 207 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: did she do research on that she do a poll? Well, 208 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: I think that definitely did kick off a frend. If 209 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: it didn't capitalize on it, it definitely kicked it off. 210 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: All right. So you go to your pet psychic. You're 211 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: gonna go into a room and they're gonna do something 212 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: like this, Uh, not exactly like this, depending on their methods, 213 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: but they're probably gonna like just relax and tell you 214 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: to calm down, and they will make contact with the 215 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: energy of the animal. And then they will actually try 216 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: and contact the said animal telepathically, like ask a question 217 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: of the animal, or they'll they'll they'll call its name 218 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: or something and get its attention to yeah, or have 219 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: a picture. A lot of times like you don't need 220 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: the animal there necessarily. In fact, a lot of times 221 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: I think the animal is not there, because why do 222 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: you need the animal? Now? You don't, You've got the 223 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: great cause, the primal cause exactly with their mind they do, 224 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: and then they um well accept whatever response they get, 225 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: relay that back to you, ask you some more questions 226 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: or if you have any more questions, and basically act 227 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: as the go between between you communicating with your pet 228 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: like just like you would think, it goes down, your 229 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: pet is saying that there. Uh they're not happy with 230 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: the new couch and that's why they're being on it 231 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: or ever since you uh took that promotion in the 232 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: middle management, you've changed, man, and I'm not happy with 233 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: this new you. That's why I keep chewing your suits exactly. Um, 234 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: they are going to uh. It's it's pretty controversial, as 235 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: we pointed out, because there isn't any hard science behind it. 236 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: There's no proof of this electromagnetic energy. And a lot 237 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: of people believe in energy. I mean electromagnetic energy does exist, 238 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: not this kind of manet. Yeah, it's fun to make 239 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: sure everyone knew that we believe in electro magnetic but 240 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: they haven't picked up that. They haven't proven that there's 241 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: any actual like sensory organ than people or animals that 242 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: allow them to tune into this energy. Does that make 243 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: more sense? So so during these pet psychic sessions, when 244 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: the when the the purpose of this normally is to 245 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of a problem, say like we said, 246 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: or to get some sort of comfort or even for 247 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: decision making. Um, the problem is when a pet psy 248 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: kick asks an animal what's going on, and the animal 249 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: is thought to respond, well, this, I'm doing this because 250 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: of this. So beyond the telepathy, beyond the clairvoyance involved, 251 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: there's still the question of whether an animal is capable 252 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: of that higher level of reasoning and thought. Yeah, right, 253 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: that it would be aware of its own reasons for 254 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: its behavior. That in and of itself is a controversial 255 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: aspect of this whole topic. Yeah, that's self awareness. Like, Um, 256 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: a lot of animal intuitives believe that animals are basically 257 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: kind of like people. They just can't talk. They experience 258 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: the emotions there they're self aware, um, and they're just 259 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: not trapped, but they're in an animal's body. Um. And 260 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: when you look at your pets, you may think they're 261 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: experiencing emotions. And it's a controversial subject because it's not 262 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: something you can prove. Well, it's been it's become more 263 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: and more proven over the years. Yeah, Like nowadays it 264 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: is accepted that animals can feel certain emotions. Yeah, especially 265 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: the basic ones like yeah, like stress, fear, fear, upsettedness. Yeah, um, 266 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: rage I think is one, um, lust, separation, distress. But 267 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: it's hard to define emotion period, much less in an 268 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: animal right. But the the idea that um emotions just 269 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: belong to humans or even humans and higher primates is 270 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: is definitely faded. Um. We are aware that animals can't 271 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: experience basic emotions. They can probably experience even higher emotions too. 272 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: Like if you look at a dog and your dog 273 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: looks sad and it's sad because you're leaving, you may 274 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: be correct. You know your dog pretty well. And we've 275 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: reached the point where science is starting to come to 276 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: grips with the idea that yes, animals can experience some 277 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: higher emotions as well. Sure. And there was actually a 278 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: conference at Cambridge University in two thousand twelve, and uh, 279 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: it was a pretty heavy hitting conference. Um, Like, I mean, 280 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: the people involved were no slouches, and they came up 281 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: with the Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness and they basically said that, um, 282 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 1: the the components that you need to experience emotions and 283 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: consciousness are not relegated to the cortex, meaning it's not 284 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: just humans that have that are capable that have the 285 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: hardware for experiencing consciousness. Right. Um. They also said that 286 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: if you artificially stimulate um, uh, the neural circuits that 287 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: are responsible for different aspects of consciousness and humans. You 288 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: can stimulate the same things in animals too, which suggests 289 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: that they have the same equipment. UM, you can also 290 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: disrupt those circuits using hallucinogens in humans and animals. And 291 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: since they have all the equipment, all the signs point to, 292 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: said this group of neuroscientists and UM other professionals. They said, 293 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: there is a pretty good chance that it's not just 294 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: humans who are experiencing consciousness. The things that the trappings 295 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: of consciousness, like higher emotions, self awareness, the things that 296 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: make us human. Animals might have that make them animals. 297 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: But the people who think that if your dog is sad, 298 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: you're probably right, are right. Dog likes you around, and 299 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: it might be happy when you're home, yeah, and sad 300 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: when you leave. And the whole reason that this has 301 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: been a thing is simply because humans haven't been able 302 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: to figure out how to accurately test what is an 303 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: emotion in an an animal, Because animals can't say I'm 304 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 1: feeling like this right now, and we can be like, 305 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: that's love. You're feeling love. Yeah, Like when a mother 306 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: cares for puppies, it's showing it looks like it's showing love, 307 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: or is it oxyt oson hormone in the body that 308 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: says you need to care for you're young. Is it 309 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: love or care or does anyone realize it's it's love 310 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: or care. Well, that's the big one because you can 311 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: say we have that same exact neural circuit and we 312 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: react to oxytocin the exact same way. So you know, 313 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: if it's love for us, why isn't it love for 314 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: the animal? Well, the key is is we think about it. 315 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: We're thinking, I feel so good about taking care of 316 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: my baby. That means I love my baby. That makes 317 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: me even happier. That's called medic cognition. That's where most 318 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: people are drawing the line with animals these days. They 319 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: might be able to experience some pretty high um emotions, 320 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: they may be self aware, but the ability to think 321 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: about their emotions and the implications of their emotions or 322 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: think about thinking, that's metic cognition, and not everybody agrees 323 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: on that one. That's the new thresthhold that we're at. 324 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: It seems like for animals, whether or not they're capable 325 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: of metic cognition. So if an animal sees itself in 326 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: the mirror and noses itself, is that self awareness, Yeah, 327 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: which would be a form of metic cognition, right, But 328 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: that's that's not proven. That's where a lot of people. 329 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: You'll lose a lot of people now, whereas ten years ago, 330 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: even saying that an animal could experience happiness or joy, 331 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: um would have lost a lot of people. So who knows. 332 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: In ten years from now, maybe everyone will agree that 333 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: animals experience metic cognition. Yeah, grief is definitely one I've 334 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: seen firsthand a lot. Yeah, we talked about it in 335 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: the Grief episode. Yeah. Um, and when we put Lucy down, 336 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: they recommend that we did our house. They recommend that 337 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: the pet not see that act, but then they come 338 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: in afterward so they see the body and so they 339 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: can understand what's going on and so they don't spend 340 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: time looking for that animal. And uh, we did that 341 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: with Buckley and Charlie and let them back in, and uh, 342 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: Charlie was stressed. We didn't think about it. She was 343 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: a feral dogs, so she gets stressed when other people 344 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: are in the house. So we forgot this vet lady 345 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: was in there. So Charlie's just stressed running around. Buckley 346 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: goes up sniff's Lucy and it was really sad, and 347 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: he was different for about four or five days, seemed 348 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: depressed to me. And when we would take him on 349 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: walks and come back, he would still run around to 350 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: all the rooms, I think looking for Lucy because he 351 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: never had done that before. He usually just walks in 352 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: and lays down, but he literally would go to each room. Um. 353 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: So I definitely think that there are things like grief, 354 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: whether or not the dog realizes it's grief, like who cares? 355 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: You know, That's what I think. Yeah, I mean it's 356 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: still experiencing on that virtually the same level, right, Yeah, 357 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: and at its most profound level, that gut experience of grief. Yeah. 358 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: And I think the whole the fine line here with 359 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: investigating or talking about whether or not animals can experience 360 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: these things is you're walking this edge where on one 361 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: side you have a through pacentrism where you're just like, no, 362 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: they can't, only humans can. Humans are the greatest ever, 363 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: and you're forgetting that we're animals as well. Then the 364 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: other side you have anthropomorphizing, where you're attributing you know, 365 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: human attributes to animals unduly. So it's kind of like 366 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: you have to so happy because we're putting up the 367 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: Christmas tree exactly. But it's happy because we're in there 368 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: having a good time and drinking some magnag and like 369 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: the music, so onward dancing right exactly. So you have 370 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: to resist both of those temptations to just kind of 371 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: keep plodding along down the line scientifically. But I think ultimately, 372 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: is we go down that line, we're going to finally 373 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: come to as a species, hopefully the idea that like 374 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: animals should not be in zoos or tested on or whatever, 375 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: because they are a lot closer to us consciousness wise 376 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: than we currently understand or want to admit. Right now, Um, 377 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: all right, well we're gonna talk a little bit about 378 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: pet psychics and like contradicts between them, um and what 379 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: might be going on here right after this message break. Okay, 380 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: so there are some contradictions. Um, if you go to 381 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: tin pet psychics, you're probably gonna have ten different, eleven opinions, 382 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: eleven different stories about what's going on, which is one 383 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: reason it makes it hard to swallow for some people. Um. Again, 384 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: I feel like since we went to break and came back, 385 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: it's this is a good time to read it. Write 386 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: like I'm not I'm not poo pooing intuitiveness. No, I'm 387 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: not poo pooing UM and some people's ability a greater 388 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: ability than others to really kind of connect to animals 389 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: and and and understand them or um deal with them 390 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: however you want to put it. It's when it strays 391 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: into telepathy and clairvoyance that, um, I start to become skeptical. Yeah, 392 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: you know what you mean. And I think I think 393 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: people some people are more into with other humans than others. 394 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Some people have their heads up their butts and are 395 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: completely absorbed in their own little universe. Other people, I think, 396 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: seek out um input from other things, whether it's people 397 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: or animals. They're always looking for something, um just you know, 398 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: justin his mom. Carrie, one of my favorite people is 399 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: one of the most in tune intuitive people I've ever 400 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: met in my life because she's she's a studier of people. 401 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: Like you can see her man when there's a party 402 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: going on, she'll be sitting back and watching. Yeah she's weird. No, 403 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: she's not weird at all. She's awesome, but she's she 404 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: watches and she's you know, I don't I don't know 405 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: if it's a gift as much as it is something 406 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: you can work on. Yeah, I think it is remove 407 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: your head from your butt and pay attention. UM. So 408 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: some contradictions like you might see if Fitzpatrick that says, um, 409 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: your animal ratted you out about something, you might go 410 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: to another pet psychic that says animals would never do that, 411 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: they're loyal. So the story supposedly according to um Sonya 412 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick from the Pet Psychic show, UM, animals are very 413 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: gossipy and um they like to tell one another all 414 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: your secrets. That's hilarious to me. And she told the story. 415 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,239 Speaker 1: She wrote a book called UM What the Animals Tell Me? 416 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: And she told the story about a turtle that she 417 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: was communicating with and the turtle told her that it 418 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: would love to have a fish friend as a pet. 419 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: So Sonia Fitzpatrick introduced a fish to this turtles tank 420 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: and the turtle was like, thanks, chump, and ate the fish. 421 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: And so she said, why did you eat the fish? 422 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: And the turtle said, well, I knew that if I 423 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: asked you for a fish to eat, you wouldn't give 424 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: it to me, So I just tricked you. Basically, so, 425 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: animals are gossipy and wiley and have the potential to lie. Yeah, 426 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: you should not trust animals. Uh. Debbie McGillivray, she wrote 427 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: The Complete Idiot's Guide to Pet Psychic Communication. Um, she's 428 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: the one that said no, no no, no, animals are loyal. 429 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: They're innocent. They would never write you out, they would 430 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: never lie to you like that or embarrass you. So um, 431 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: it makes it tougher to swallow when you have people 432 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: saying these wildly different things, not about what they're picking up, 433 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: but the fact that no animals do this, No animals 434 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: do this, Like, which is it right? But you could 435 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: say the same thing about humans, you know, like if 436 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: you hang out with certain humans, you can be like 437 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: some humans like humans gossip. They'll they'll tell other people 438 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: all of your terrible secrets. Other people might have hung 439 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: out with the Waltons and they're like, no, humans are 440 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: all loyal. It's all. It's all about your perception and 441 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: your experience, that's right. So what might be going on 442 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: here is what's known as a cold reading. Yeah, the 443 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: actual any success or what appears to be success telepathically 444 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: among pet psychics readings, Yeah, esp people use cold readings 445 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: to explain that fortune telling, tarot card palm reading, crystal balls, 446 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: you name it. Uh. A skeptic will say that what 447 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: a cold reading is is the following. They are maybe 448 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: stating the obvious. Your cat loves to your cats, telling 449 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: me it loves to lay in the window and look 450 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: at the world outside. And the person goes, oh, my god, 451 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: the wizard loves that. All cats love that exactly, so 452 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: that might happen in your reading. Um. They might also 453 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: use very vague language like, um, so he says, your 454 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: dog says something has changed around here, and you go, oh, yeah, 455 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: I just accepted this middle management promotion, and the pet 456 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: psychic says, yes, that's that exactly, that's the this new 457 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: thing that's changed. And you said earlier that your dog 458 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: was chewing up your new shoes, and that's why your 459 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: dog is not happy with this change, So he's chewing 460 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: your shoes. I am a psychic. That's that's how they 461 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: finish every reading too. But they throw their arms up 462 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: in the air and shout that, well, it's interesting because 463 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: what might be happening there is is your dog might 464 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: be chewing up your shoes because you did get that job, 465 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: because you're working in extra fifteen hours a week, and 466 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: your dog has separation anxiety, so ironically it might be 467 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: actually on the money. But uh, dis kinnect comes in 468 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: when the psychic says that your dog told him that exactly, Um, 469 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: what else? Um? Or about this? Here's another way to 470 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: state the audience your dog. I'm looking at a picture 471 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: of your dog and they chew on their paws all 472 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: the time, and say they itch and that's because in 473 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: the picture they have like a bandage on their pall. 474 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: Or you went in and I forgot you said, my 475 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: dog is chewing their paws all the time. What's the 476 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: deal with that? Like, they'll they'll glean these bits of 477 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: information without you maybe even necessarily recognizing that by asking 478 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: you questions, and then they make that part of their 479 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: cold reading. But then asking questions is another one too. 480 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: It's fishing for details. It's like I see that your 481 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: dog is wearing a green and then you say blue 482 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: blue collar. Your dog is wearing a blue collar. Um. 483 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: So every time something is uh that that you indicate 484 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: something is correct, it'll be restated, rephrased, respoken as if 485 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: the psychic is saying it, and you're you're so unwrapped 486 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: in this whole thing that you're just missing the fact 487 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: that you're feeding them the information that they're giving to 488 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: you as a psychic reading, because this isn't just pet psychics. No, 489 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: Like generally, if you go into a psychic, you are 490 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: there because you want to believe and you are seeking 491 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: an answer. Um, if a dude like your I went 492 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: into a pet psychic, we probably wouldn't have much luck 493 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: because we would go in there looking to shoot holes 494 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: in it. And uh, I did encourage Emily. I was 495 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: like going there with an open mind. You know, I 496 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: would go in there with an open mind. See, I 497 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: don't think I could. I would, I wasn't invited. I 498 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: would try, at the very least, I don't. I wouldn't 499 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: if I were going to go in there just to 500 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: poop who, I just wouldn't go. Well, yeah, you know, 501 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: because I mean, who wants to do that? Jerks? There 502 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: are plenty of them out there too. No, that's true. Um, 503 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: But Emily did say that she was She made a 504 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: point to not reveal too much and to sort of 505 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: watch out for those cold reading tricks. And she said 506 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: I didn't reveal a whole lot and she she gave 507 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: me back something, so she's a believer. Well, um that 508 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: that whatever she spent on that, So dropping the bucket. 509 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: Compared to what people spend on their pets these days, 510 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: it's a little crazy these days, not just for pet 511 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: psychics but just in general. Yeah. Um, Americans spent sixty 512 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: one billion dollars billion with a B dollars in two 513 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: thousand thirty on their pets. Sixty one billion dollars and 514 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: that was up from thirty six billion in two thousand 515 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: five and seventeen billion. What's the current number, sixty one billion? Boy, 516 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean things have really I don't want to say 517 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: gotten out of hand, but you definitely noticed in the 518 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: past decade more uh, doggy spas and stuff like that around. Well, 519 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: there's supposedly more disposable income. Yeah. Uh, and there are 520 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: more people who are not having kids, so they're just 521 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: dumping their money into their beats. Well, good get them 522 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: off the street people, That's what I say. The point 523 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: is for spending sixty one billion dollars on our pets, 524 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: and it keeps increasing, almost doubling every few years, now 525 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: every eight years. UM. Pet psychics are not going anywhere. No, 526 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: they're not there. Here is stay. I've got one more 527 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: UM stat for you. Uh, there's a poll in two 528 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: thousand eight that found that sixty of pet owners say 529 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: they understand their animals purrs or barks or other noises, 530 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: and said that when they speak, their pet understands them 531 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: or at least they're intent um. And one in five 532 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: owners claim they their pets understand each other completely like 533 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: the two pets do, and one quarter of cat owners 534 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: that they completely understood their pet sounds. Only of dog 535 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: owners said they were flute and barks. So I guess 536 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: those are two different poles that are wildly different in 537 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: their numbers. I think people can and animals since a 538 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: lot of subtle micro expressions and body language, and that 539 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: is just I mean, that is communication. So don't you 540 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: think that's just a result of proximity around another living being, 541 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, just living with something, whether it's a person 542 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: or an animal, like you get to know them and 543 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: their mannerisms and yeah, like you can read them, and 544 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: that is, like I said, micro expressions is a form 545 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: of commune cation, I think. So it's not like I think, 546 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: sure you can communicate with your dog, uh, but it 547 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: may not be telepathically like a conversation. But if it 548 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: feels as easy as a telepathic conversation, then you you've 549 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: got it going on with your pet. Yeah. And again, 550 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: if you want to go out and drop your dough 551 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: on a pet psychic, more power to you. Probably get 552 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: something out of it. Same here. Uh. If you want 553 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: to know more about pet psychics, type those words into 554 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: the search part how stuff works dot com. And since 555 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: I said search parts, time for listener mail. I'm gonna 556 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: call this uh go Figgy Puddings. Remember that in our 557 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: a live partly Well, I'll just go and read it 558 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: the semester. Guys, I'm studying abroad in the UK at 559 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: the University of Hertfordshire during my travel exactly during my travels. 560 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: Your podcast is help me pass the time of plane 561 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: and train rides while learning new things and hearing the 562 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: American accent I miss so much. I just listened to 563 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: a zero scientific for me. For funny, you mentioned Richard 564 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: Wiseman from the University of Hertfordshire and Josh said go 565 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: Figgy Puddings, which was very funny. I couldn't have thought 566 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: of that. You could not that quick. I was a 567 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: little taken. Aback guy, since you're always dead on with 568 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: your university team names, I regret to inform you that 569 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 1: you h does not have a team called the Piggy 570 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: Puddings Zell. They're actually the University of Hertfordshire Hurricanes. It 571 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: was this guy's joking right now, King, Oh yeah, well yeah, 572 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: I think so. Oh, I think so, Andrew. You knew 573 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: Josh is joking, right, please, Andrew, I think so. Um, 574 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 1: we are the Hurricanes, which is a little weird since 575 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: they have more figgy puddings here than hurricanes. Yeah, there's 576 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: not a lot of hurricanes over there and there, No, 577 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't think so. They tend to come this way. Yeah, 578 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: you h Hurricanes are actually one of the best British 579 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: American football teams around with four national championships. But I 580 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: think he corrected himself in a subsequent email. I think 581 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: there were five twelve division title since just want to 582 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: set the record straight. 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