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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome The Mother Knows Death. Today we are going to

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Speaker 1: be talking about a nurse influencer who tragically died during childbirth.

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Speaker 1: Russell Brand's rape charges at least five nurses working at

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Speaker 1: the same unit that all have brain tumors, discounts for

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Speaker 1: skinny people, a man who performs surgery on hisself, and

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Speaker 1: of course sex in a cemetery. All that more on

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Speaker 1: today's episode, Let's get started with Nurse Halle's tragic death. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Haley Accola, she was a popular nurse influencer. Her

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Speaker 1: handle was at rn New Grads, so she was pregnant

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Speaker 1: with her first child. She had told her audience about

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Speaker 1: her fertility struggles, so of course everybody was really happy

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Speaker 1: for her when she announced that she's pregnant with her

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Speaker 1: and her husband's first child. So last week she was

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Speaker 1: due or she started going into birth.

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Speaker 2: She went in the hospital and then her audience was

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Speaker 2: shocked when her husband posted a couple of days later

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Speaker 2: that she had died during the childbirth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we personally have dealt with this experience

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Speaker 1: that one of our great family friends died after giving

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Speaker 1: birth to her son. This was back eleven twelve years

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Speaker 1: ago now at this point. But yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: really especially since that happened to us, I know exactly

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Speaker 1: what everybody in her life is going through. And I

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Speaker 1: guess it's just even more shocking because she was an

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Speaker 1: Instagram influencer. She had almost half a million followers, you know,

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Speaker 1: so a lot of people were following her story for years,

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Speaker 1: and it's just upsetting to anyone that hears that because

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Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear a first. People are just like,

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Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty five, How does that even happen? But

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Speaker 1: it happens, unfortunately, about a thousand times a year in

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Speaker 1: the United States and even more in other countries. It

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Speaker 1: just sometimes this particular condition that his wife was diagnosed with,

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Speaker 1: it's just like you can't know that it's happening, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes you can't stop it from happening. Well, what happened

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Speaker 1: exactly in her case, So she had something called an

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Speaker 1: amnionic fluid embolism. So we've talked about embolisms all the

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Speaker 1: time on this program. Usually we talk about a pulmonary embolism.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes if we're talking about like lip boseuction. Sometimes these

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Speaker 1: fat embolism, and that just means that something is starting

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Speaker 1: at one point in the body and it's moving through

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Speaker 1: the vascular system and can go to another part of

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Speaker 1: the body. So in this case, it is the fetal

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Speaker 1: cells that are in the amniotic fluid are somehow getting

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Speaker 1: into the maternal blood supply and traveling to the lungs,

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Speaker 1: and this is what is causing these women to just

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Speaker 1: they start So the weird thing is about this is

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Speaker 1: that embolisms, when there's death from embolisms, either from fat

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Speaker 1: presenting itself, and with amnionic fluid embolisms it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit different, and that's why sometimes it's referred to as

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Speaker 1: being closer to like an anaphylactic reaction that you would

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Speaker 1: think when you you know, a person with peanut allergies

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Speaker 1: it's the blood vessels start tightening up really tight, and

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Speaker 1: getting irritated because these cells are within the blood vessels

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Speaker 1: inflammatory cytokinds that are reacting to this foreign material being

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Speaker 1: it activates coagulation, which is blood clotting, and it leads

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Speaker 1: to a condition called DIC. DIC stands for disseminated intravascular coagulation.

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Speaker 1: It just sounds it just sounds crazy, and it's this

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Speaker 1: of counteractive. It doesn't make sense, but let me explain

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Speaker 1: it to you really quick, because it makes sense. So

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Speaker 1: what happens is all of the blood starts clotting and

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Speaker 1: So that's the first problem really that you're having problems

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Speaker 1: It's just it's really quick and unfortunately it's so rare

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I guess my question is just like, there's

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's definitely risk factors associated with it, and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of risk factors associated with it, and

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Speaker 1: have one of them. Yeah, so it's it sometimes happens

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Speaker 1: in people who have multiple pregnancies. So if you have twins, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: placenta acrida, which is so normally when you have the baby,

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Speaker 2: wondering if they have multiple embryos that are in storage

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Speaker 2: that I know if we've talked about that before on here?

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Speaker 2: Are is that something that is legal.

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Speaker 1: To do here? I mean, it seems because I remember

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Speaker 1: I'm he he honestly probably can use them legally because

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Speaker 2: I did a little bit of research on it. So

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Speaker 2: fertility clinics will kind of like cover this in your

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Speaker 2: I assume when you do it that both people and

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Speaker 2: you get divorced. I know I had talked about this

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Speaker 2: before with Sophia Virgara had been in a lawsuit about

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Speaker 2: her ex husband trying to use embryos they had created,

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Speaker 2: Actually it's called the Jennings versus Human Fertilization and Embryo

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Speaker 2: a widower could use an embryo created with his late wife,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean, yeah, I am interested. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how how do you even know this?

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Speaker 2: Well, I looked into all of this because no, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Mean I don't mean this, Like, how do you how

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Speaker 1: do you even know that there's more embryos?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think when you when you're going through IVF,

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Speaker 2: they after they do the egg retrieval, you are privy

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Speaker 2: they do fresh transfers or the remaining ones will get

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Speaker 2: frozen that you could get in planet.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying you're not. I'm saying, like, how do

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Speaker 1: you know that this couple has extras? Oh? I don't

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Speaker 1: there were extra, okay, tars like that would just be

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Speaker 1: it just would be a really weird thing to talk

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Speaker 1: about in an interview. It just like that they're not.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's the last thing from his mind right now. No,

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Speaker 1: it's none of my business. It's just something I.

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Speaker 2: Was curious because I know in these cases a lot

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Speaker 2: of times you end up with multiple embryos, and of

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Speaker 2: course that's because sometimes they don't take and then there's

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Speaker 2: extras to use for multiple rounds of IVF. But I'm

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Speaker 2: just wondering, in the case of if somebody did have

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Speaker 2: or the desire is to go forward and use those.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's that's actually a really interesting case

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Speaker 1: because remember that the hockey player what's his name, good,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Gudrou. Yeah, like his wife just had the baby today,

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Speaker 2: So when everything that broke with Roger Ale's happened, it

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Speaker 1: But you know a regular person that's just living around

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Speaker 2: Because like you're missing the point of my story with

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Speaker 1: But why are they going to the news then, And

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Speaker 2: Every right to be skeptical. I mean, people certainly come

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Speaker 2: forward with false accusations, but I think it's important to

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Speaker 2: look at like the amount of people. It's not one person,

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Speaker 2: Like look at Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, for example.

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Speaker 2: There is not one other person coming forward saying Justin

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Speaker 2: Baldoni's actually harass them. And that's where it makes a

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Speaker 2: gray area because there's not enough claims to back up

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Speaker 2: what she what Blake Lively is saying. So like, when

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Speaker 2: you look at this case and there's a two year

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Speaker 2: investigation and there's four women involved, you have to start

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Speaker 2: thinking about this.

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Speaker 1: This is but this is why like and and you know,

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Speaker 1: you you sit there and say, well, women can't come

446
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Speaker 1: forward and stuff like women can't come forward because of

447
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Speaker 1: the Blake Lively situation, and like I know that, but

448
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Speaker 1: because but like and like if that, if that turns

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Speaker 1: out like after they go to court and stuff to

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Speaker 1: be like true, she should be ostracized because of that.

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Speaker 1: Because that This is why like people like me are

452
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Speaker 1: even too, are just kind of like, okay, here's another one,

453
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Speaker 1: because it's just like there's a certain there's a certain

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Speaker 1: level that like you don't even want to hear it

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Speaker 1: anymore because it's just like, oh, yeah, it happened to

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Speaker 1: you whatever. Like I don't know, I'm like the years

457
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Speaker 1: are just bothering me because like, dude, in nineteen ninety nine,

458
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Speaker 1: it was like a year after I was done working

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Speaker 1: at Hot Topic, and like I literally was working at

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Speaker 1: the mall and like getting ready to go to college

461
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Speaker 1: at like it's just it's just so fricking long ago.

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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine that.

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Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make is that at the time,

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Speaker 2: this woman may have gone to somebody and told them

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Speaker 2: and nobody did anything about it, and it.

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Speaker 1: Kept coming back up.

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Speaker 2: So she eventually felt her only way to like get

468
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Speaker 2: a hold on it was to go to the media

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Speaker 2: to expose it, because that does happen a lot of times.

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Speaker 2: But there is also a world in which these people

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Speaker 2: could be totally making it up to get a nice,

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Speaker 2: fat paycheck. So I don't think in the UK they're

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Speaker 2: getting a paycheck because it's criminal charges. He's facing a

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Speaker 2: civil lawsuit in the United States right now, So like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to result in that, and

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Speaker 2: it's you get a paycheck from from the newspaper that

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Speaker 2: they brought it to. Yeah, maybe, like not all newspapers pay,

478
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Speaker 2: so like you don't know, it's not not all newspapers pay.

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Speaker 2: That one might have, but you just really don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's like he said, she said, you just don't know.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's start with this case of the

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Speaker 1: nurses that are working on a maternity floor in a hospital.

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Speaker 1: They all work together, and they all somehow have brain tumors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is happening at this hospital in Massachusetts,

496
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Speaker 2: and five of these nurses have come up with these

497
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Speaker 2: benign brain tumors, and six other workers at the same

498
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Speaker 2: hospital have come up with other weird health situations.

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Speaker 1: So the other weird health situations don't really alarm me

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Speaker 1: as much because like every like, talk to every one

501
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: of your friends. Everybody's got a weird health situation. That's

502
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: like why we do this podcast. Right. All of these

503
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: people had benign brain tumors, right, which is good at

504
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: least they didn't get brain cancer. But the interesting part

505
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Speaker 1: of this is that there were five different tumors, but

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Speaker 1: of those five, it was three different kinds of benign

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Speaker 1: brain tumors. So there were two meningiomas, but there were

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Speaker 1: also other kinds of brain tumors, including probably I would say,

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Speaker 1: just based upon most commons, like an acoustic neuroma, or

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Speaker 1: also I would say, like a pituitary adnoma. Now, the

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Speaker 1: reason that it's important that there's these different tumors is

512
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Speaker 1: because like meningiomas, for sure, I would say definitely have

513
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Speaker 1: an increased risk with something like radiation exposure, so to

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Speaker 1: acoustic neuromas, but like pituitary adnomas, they they don't really,

515
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Speaker 1: they might, they might not. So it's like there's hard

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Speaker 1: to see like a correlation between like pathology versus like

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Speaker 1: what they were exposed to in that case. So that's

518
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Speaker 1: what's you know how it's like very interesting at a

519
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: job because the most famous job related pathologies would be

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Speaker 1: like asbestos. Right, it's very easy to see like they

521
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: have this very specific pathology and they have musothelioma and

522
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: it correlates to asbesis disposure, whereas these are like, they don't.

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Speaker 1: They didn't find anything when they were testing. So the

524
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Speaker 1: health the Occupational safety on the state level came in

525
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Speaker 1: and did a bunch of testing. They found nothing, and

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Speaker 1: they're trying to correlate it to They say the other

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Speaker 1: health diseases that these the other people are suffering from.

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Speaker 1: But they're trying to correlate both of them, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing here now. Like I said, it's it's very

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Speaker 1: I guess it's possible in some kind of world that

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Speaker 1: it is that they all just so happened to have

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Speaker 1: a brain tumor. I think a lot of people. I

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Speaker 1: know two people in my immediate family that have benign

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Speaker 1: brain tumors that didn't even know they had it, right.

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Speaker 2: So me, because I have a pituitary you but you

536
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Speaker 2: and I was under the impression that it was just

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Speaker 2: a genetic weird thing, like it wasn't from an environmental exposure.

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Speaker 1: That's how it's not one hundred percent certain of that.

539
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: But it doesn't have a strong link like other things do. Now,

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Speaker 1: Like like I'm saying, like, you had a brain tumor,

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Speaker 1: we don't know how long you didn't even know it. Right,

542
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Speaker 1: My father in law gives me his scan for something

543
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what he was getting done somewhere

544
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Speaker 1: on his head and neck, and it's like, oh, there's

545
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Speaker 1: a one centimeter miningeoman the frontal lobe of your brain.

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Speaker 1: And I look at him and I'm like, did you

547
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Speaker 1: know you had a brain tumor? And he's like no.

548
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Speaker 1: And it's like a huge joke in our family now

549
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: because we're like, that's what's wrong with you. You have

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Speaker 1: a brain tumor. Right, So so anyway, like we were

551
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: just joking about that, but like people have things anyway.

552
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Speaker 1: But I'm assuming that if all these people got testing done,

553
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Speaker 1: like they must have been having symptoms it otherwise, like

554
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: how how would you even know that you had it? Right?

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Speaker 1: And I so I had a similar situation at my

556
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Speaker 1: last job, and my coworker, my old coworker, Jess could

557
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Speaker 1: can talk about this with me that we had a bet.

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Speaker 1: We were working in a newer hospital and the ventilation

559
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Speaker 1: system for the lab was bad. It was just really bad.

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Speaker 1: And obviously in the pathology lab we deal with formaldehyde

561
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Speaker 1: mostly alcohols too, but like formaldehyde is the biggest one

562
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Speaker 1: that you don't want to be breathing in and we

563
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Speaker 1: constantly like had burning face, burning eyes. The thing didn't work,

564
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Speaker 1: and then it was weird like at lunchtime we would

565
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: smell the exhaust from from them making burgers in the

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Speaker 1: lunch room that was way far away from our labs.

567
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Speaker 1: So strong. We were like, something's not right with the

568
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Speaker 1: ventilation system, and we brought it up. We had all

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Speaker 1: of these people come in all of the time. It

570
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: was just so ridiculous, and people were just like, oh,

571
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: we can't find anything, we can't find anything, and it's

572
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: just like it's it's just total bullshit. So I feel

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Speaker 1: terrible for these nurses working on the floor because they

574
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Speaker 1: basically are just told like, nothing to see here, move on.

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00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: And just because they didn't find anything doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: there's nothing there. So they brought up lots of different

577
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Speaker 1: things that could possibly they had concerned about. They were

578
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Speaker 1: wearing a mask like twenty four to seven during the pandemic,

579
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Speaker 1: so they and of course like the CDC and all

580
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: these people are saying that there's no correlation that that

581
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Speaker 1: causes brain tumors, which which is possible, but like, they

582
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: also don't really have any long term studies of people

583
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Speaker 1: wearing a mask for years and years in a row

584
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Speaker 1: because that's not what it was designed forever, right, So

585
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: they don't have that evidence yet and they might just

586
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: start rearing it's ugly. Had now those things have chemicals

587
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: on them, I'm sorry, Like, and if you have them

588
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: on your face all day. They they definitely cause irritation

589
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: to the skin. Sometimes they've caused other people problems, So like,

590
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't one hundred percent roll that out. They had

591
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: to use some other kind of chemical to decontaminate the

592
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Speaker 1: N ninety five mass during the pandemic as well. Now

593
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: they're so they've ruled that out and said, like, no,

594
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: that's not happening. They checked the drinking water, they said

595
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Speaker 1: it was fine. They checked They said that there were

596
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Speaker 1: X rays one six hundred and sixty eight within the

597
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Speaker 1: past couple years on that floor with a portable X

598
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Speaker 1: ray machine, and they said even if a staff member

599
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: was present for every single one of those X rays,

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00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: they still wouldn't have been around enough radiation exposure to

601
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Speaker 1: cause a problem. Apparently there's a pharmacy below the below

602
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: the maternity floor that's making that's using ventilated systems for

603
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: some kind of chemicals that they're working on there. So

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Speaker 1: they've ruled everything out, and now all of these people

605
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: are working on Explore, and not just the nurses, but

606
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: all the staff that are working on the floor are

607
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: left with like, now what, I don't know?

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Speaker 2: And I wouldn't accept this because I do think I

609
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: understand you're saying. It's like multiple forms. It's not like

610
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: everybody has the same exact kind, but it is eerie

611
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: to think about, and they must have been having symptoms.

612
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Speaker 2: I don't know this. This just bothers me because I'm thinking,

613
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: like I only found out about my thing because I

614
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: was getting blood work for something totally different and it

615
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: came up, and I just want to tell this story

616
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Speaker 2: really quick. So like I get my blood panel back

617
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Speaker 2: and I'm reading it, so I see like my prolactance high,

618
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: and then of course I'm like googling it and it's like, oh,

619
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Speaker 2: you might have a brain tumor, right, So I'm like, uh,

620
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: classic web MD.

621
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna blow it off.

622
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Speaker 2: So then I send it to you and you're just

623
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: so casually like you have a brain tumor.

624
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: It's fine, And I'm like, what are you talking about?

625
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: But it really is fun. Did you want me to

626
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: like like put your head on my bosom and like

627
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: hold you and tell you it was gonna be okay?

628
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: Like it's not cancer, They get treat you, you're fine.

629
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Speaker 2: Your delivery of your medical diagnosis is like insane.

630
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Speaker 1: It's why we call you doctor death. It was. If

631
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Speaker 1: it was serious, I would have been a little bit more.

632
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: It's just like like listen, like I'll tell you when

633
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: there's a problem, trust me. It's look, you're alive.

634
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: So I was right, well, it's like really in my case,

635
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: it's really not a big deal at all. But like

636
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Speaker 2: for these people, I just I wouldn't be comfortable with

637
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 2: this investigation just being like, you know, there's nothing wrong.

638
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: And it seems like the Massachusetts Nurse Association is also

639
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: saying that their testing was not comprehensive and they're gonna

640
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: keep pushing for me. Yeah, and apparently the federal level

641
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: of OSHA is not even aware that this is going on.

642
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: So I would hope they're gonna, like the big guns

643
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: are gonna step in and try to.

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Speaker 1: There was some I didn't look this up because I

645
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Speaker 1: just thought this. I just thought of this right now.

646
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Speaker 1: But do you remember that there's like all of these

647
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: cases of weird cancer. I think it's actually bringing tumors too,

648
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: being linked to the vet in in Philly, our old

649
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: Phillies and Eagles Stadium. Yeah, at the Veteran Stadium. Every

650
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: single person that had these tumors was either like related

651
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: they worked there or they somehow they linked it all

652
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: back to there, and I never I don't we should

653
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: actually like do a deeper dive into that because I'm

654
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: interested in that.

655
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: Like I believe a high profile death's a section. I

656
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: believe John Kruk had a cancer that was related to

657
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: the turf field from the Veterans.

658
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was something about the turf. And then remember

659
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: they were like they were selling the turf on eBay

660
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: on eBay, like for a memory, and I was just like, yeah,

661
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: no thanks, I don't want that in my house. Yeah,

662
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: which whatever, like in a glass case, it's fine, but

663
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: it's just like bad juju or whatever. All right, let's

664
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: so let's do a high profile depth dis section on

665
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: that because I like that kind of stuff. Yeah. Have

666
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: you heard about these tattoos that are apparently they're like

667
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: semi permanent tattoos.

668
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: Well, I've seen them circulating on social media, but I

669
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: just assume, like most things I see on social media,

670
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: that it wasn't true or people are just idiots for

671
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: like not understanding how tattooing works.

672
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I I don't know where the

673
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: hell I've been. I just like, this is the first

674
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: time I've heard of it, and so I'm looking into

675
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: it and it's it's it's like they're doing a normal tattoo,

676
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: except they're using this other kind of ink that is

677
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: supposed to be able to be removed from your body easier.

678
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: And they're tattoos that are done that are only supposed

679
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: to last a year to one to three years, and

680
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: they're just supposed to fade away. I mean, I can't like,

681
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: so tattoo artists are doing this on people. I mean,

682
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: I guess, oh, if they're getting paid either way, right, well.

683
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: I guess this company called Ephemeral Tattoos created this specialized

684
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 2: ink that is designed to fade over time. So it's

685
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: this like, I guess it's on some level considered this

686
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: temporary tattoo.

687
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: This is the dumbest shit I ever heard in my life.

688
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking, like, why would you want to sit

689
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: through the pain of getting a tattoo if it wasn't

690
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: gonna be there forever it has to be causing scar tissues?

691
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: Or are people getting it thinking like, oh, maybe I'll

692
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: like it and it'll go away and I'll just get

693
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: another one right on top of that same exact area.

694
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: I guess in their testing and in their theory, they

695
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: think that if you if the tattoo artist delivers it

696
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: in the exact sweet spot of the dermist, so not

697
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: that epidermist is the top layer and then the dermist

698
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: is below that and the subcutaneous is below that. If

699
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: the tattoo artist puts it in the sweet spot, that

700
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: that's how it should last the amount of time, they say,

701
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: and it should go away. I like, it's it's just

702
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: so against This is why, like I wish I could

703
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: just take off all my tattoos and not be associated

704
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: with the culture anymore. I just like I hate it

705
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: so bad. It's just so different from what it was

706
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: when I started back in the nineties that like, I

707
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: want to be as far away from it as possible

708
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: because it because this dumb. This is just so dumb.

709
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: And I was telling you this in the car yesterday too,

710
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: Like I saw that there was some I don't know

711
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: if it was Shark Tank, but it was some kind

712
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: of company that's that's making a machine that you could

713
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: put pictures into and lay under it and have the

714
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: machine tattoo you and you don't have to have an

715
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: artist draw it and do it on you and stuff,

716
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: and I'm just kind of like, Okay, I'm over it.

717
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm over the tattoo thing. Like, I'm just over it this,

718
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean.

719
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: That machine is it absolutely idi like?

720
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: But this is idiotic too, Like just why wouldn't you

721
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: just get one of those those hen of tattoos are

722
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: a sticker and just put it on if you weren't

723
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: ready for the commitment? I don't know. And what did

724
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: you think, like when it says it's it's made to fade, Like,

725
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: what did you think the faded away tattoo was going

726
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: to look?

727
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: Like? I don't think anybody that they interviewed or that

728
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: the people they were sourcing for this article that had

729
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 2: this tattoo done, I don't think any of them realized

730
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: exactly what that was going to be, because it seems

731
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: like when the company first came out, they were saying

732
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: the tattoos were gonna last nine to fifteen months, and

733
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: then they sent out like an update email that actually

734
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: they might last up to three years. And these people

735
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: that were interviewed for this article were saying that it

736
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 2: did look like a nice, fresh tattoo for the first

737
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: couple of months, but then as it started to fade,

738
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: it looked like they had a like a botch procedure done,

739
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: so to speak, or that they had some really shitty

740
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: lasering done. And the craziest part of this is one

741
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: girl did go to get it lasered and the lasering

742
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: place said we can't do it because that inks not

743
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: FDA approved to get lasered off.

744
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: I love that She's actually, yeah, that girl that got

745
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: interviewed is actually like the semi permanent tattoo is actually

746
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: worse than if I just got a real tattoo because

747
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: I at least able to get it removed. Like, think

748
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: about that. It's just like, listen, it's just like a marriage, right,

749
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: Like you really shouldn't go into it thinking that you're

750
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: going to get out of it right away. Right, Shockingly

751
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people do so, Like, well, I get

752
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: I guess that that's why this makes sense. Then I

753
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm curious and this company, it's it's interesting

754
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: for me because I'm sure they've made a ton of

755
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: money off of this. But like, and the reason that

756
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: I brought up the application is key because if you

757
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: put it more superficial, it's going to it's not going

758
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: to last as long. And if you put it into

759
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: the the subdervis or the subcutaneous tissue, Like it's going

760
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: to last way longer than three years. So my whole

761
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: thing is like, you're just giving this product to people

762
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: to use and like put in your name on it,

763
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: and if it's not applied right, like people are gonna

764
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: have a problem. And I feel like that could almost

765
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: be I mean, it could be lawsuit worthy because according

766
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: to what I looked at at their website, they were

767
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: just kind of like, Yeah, this is definitely gonna be

768
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: gone in three years. It didn't say like results may

769
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: vary there. They're like pretty certain it's gonna be gone.

770
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: It seems like now they're saying that results may vary

771
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: depending on the person. But like you're saying, they have

772
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: to put it in a sweet spot, so you have

773
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: to use a special tattoo gun that doesn't go no, but.

774
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: Like every tattoo artist is supposed to put it in

775
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: a sweet spot. But like ultimately, like that's a microscopic level,

776
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: and if you're a good tattoo artist, you know what

777
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: it feels like to be in the right area. But

778
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: I've certainly gotten tattoos. If you get blowouts, it goes

779
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: too deep, like it doesn't go deep enough. How many

780
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: times do you get tattooed and you just like have

781
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: to go back and get it touched up like some

782
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: And this is like normal stuff when you get tattooed

783
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: all the time by different artists and everything like that,

784
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: but it's very hard, like tattooing my skin versus tattooing

785
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: like a man with thick and like an older thick man,

786
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: or like pop Pop got his first tattoo and he

787
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: was like seven. Like there's just such a variety of

788
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: what's happening that like sometimes it's not always going to

789
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: be in the perfect sweet spot and that's probably what's

790
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: happening here. So now all of these people have these

791
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: like like poop blobs all over their skin, like just

792
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: like they look like they have like an actual skin

793
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: lesion or something, or just like a terrible tattoo. It's

794
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: just but like at the same time, before you do

795
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: something like that, you didn't think, like, hey, can we

796
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: see after pictures of what this looks like? Like I

797
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't.

798
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I would just never even consider getting something

799
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: like this done, So I can't put myself in I

800
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: don't know.

801
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: Why I'm like so shocked, like reading it today and

802
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: you I just was like, and you go to a

803
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: real tattoo artist and you pay the same amount. Like

804
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: it's just that I just don't even understand it. It's

805
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: just weird. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense at all.

806
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: Okay this this also doesn't make sense. Thai Thai restaurant

807
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: that's offering discounts for skinny people. Yeah, there's a restaurant

808
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: in Thailand that has this system of metal bars. It

809
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: kind of looks like a fence, but all the bars

810
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: are different withs, and depending on which with you fit

811
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: through is how much of a discount you get. So

812
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: if you get this, get through the thinnest one, which

813
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't even think I could fit my head through,

814
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: you get twenty percent off, and then there's like a

815
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: fifteen percent off, ten percent off, five percent off, and

816
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: then there's you know, you just don't get anything for

817
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: free because I guess they deemed that you're too fat.

818
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's there's what the widest set of bars

819
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: is like full price. Sorry. Yeah, So I mean like

820
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: I I was looking at that and I'm thinking, like

821
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: this is so all the people are saying it's discriminatory,

822
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 1: and it's just like, yeah, they don't they don't care,

823
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: like obviously, and they're doing it because like we're like

824
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about this Thai restaurant that wouldn't got talked

825
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: about before, right, So it's just like a marketing thing.

826
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't even imagine really many women that

827
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: would even fit through the first one because just the boobs,

828
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: it's so skinny. Like even if you could fit your head,

829
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: because your head looks like it would just fit through, right,

830
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: So if you turn my head, I could fit through. Well,

831
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: you have like an extra big head, but like for

832
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: regular people head size, it would fit through. Yeah, I

833
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: don't know. Probably you would probably only get fifteen percent off.

834
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't even think my.

835
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: Head would fit through the fifteen percent off. I'm going

836
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: with the ten to five. But yeah, I mean, they're

837
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 2: facing a lot of backlash online, but at the same time,

838
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: they have a really high rating on trip Advisor, so

839
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: people must think the food's pretty good. I'm actually making

840
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: a delicious tie dinner. I'm gonna make some tompkaw soup.

841
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 2: It's some nice fresh to make that. Yet I'm gonna

842
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: make it tonight.

843
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: You never made it before. No, I'm curious what it

844
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: tastes like. Well, have you ever had it before? Yeah,

845
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: I've had it before at a restaurant, but I've never

846
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: made it before.

847
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna make a vegetarian version for myself because

848
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: I don't really like putting chicken in soup, but I'll

849
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: put shrimp and Ricky's. But yeah, it seems pretty good,

850
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 2: all right.

851
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: So again, I have a personal autopsy story with a

852
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: similar situation with this next case. Yeah, so this mom

853
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: had been on this weight lost journey, and I guess

854
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: part of you know, fluctuating with weight is that your

855
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: hair could fall out. So she started taking these over

856
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: the counter supplements to help with her hair, her skin,

857
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: and her nails, and then she ended up going into

858
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: organ failure. So I had an autopsy years ago of

859
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: a person that was in a similar situation. She just

860
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: went to the hospital, was in full on liver failure,

861
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: died before they could even figure out what was going on.

862
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: We did the autopsy. Her liver was just look terrible,

863
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: like it's just so jammed up, and you know, it

864
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: looked so bad. It's probably one of the worst livers

865
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Honestly, and and and you know, you

866
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: show everybody in the lab and we all look at

867
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: it and say, like, Okay, something like really gnarly happened

868
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: to this lady, because like, what the hell happened to

869
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: her liver, because you don't see a liver that looks

870
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: like that every day, right, And sure enough, like when

871
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: we were investigating it and figuring out what caused her,

872
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: she had so she was having a cute liver failure

873
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: and it was toxicity from vitamins. And then we found

874
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: out that she was taking this salt palmetto extract that.

875
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: Normally that would be used for like male pattern baldness,

876
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: but she was having hair loss as well, and she

877
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: was taking it for that. And I don't know like

878
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: what was in it besides that, but I just know

879
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: that she had such high levels of that that that

880
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: is what caused her to have liver toxicity and it

881
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: killed her. And she was young. It was a crazy case.

882
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: And so when I read about this story in the

883
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: news this week, this this mother kind of was going

884
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: through the same thing. She's on a weight loss journey

885
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: and she lost a bunch of hair. She's probably on

886
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: ozembic because your hair falls out sometimes with that because

887
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: you're like lacking nutrients, protein and stuff like that or whatever,

888
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: Like your hair just falls out anyway because you're starting

889
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: to go through perry menopause and that's just a thing.

890
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: So she started just taking a lot of supplements to

891
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: supplement for the nutrient and she was losing and then

892
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: tip for her hair loss and hair and nail one,

893
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: and she started, like right after she started taking this

894
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: one for her hair and nails, she started noticing that

895
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: her eyes were yellow, like she was turning jaundice. She

896
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: went to the hospital. They first they thought she had

897
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: hepatitis or something and worked her up for that, and

898
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: then her doctor was like, have you started taking any

899
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: new medication And she was like no. And they were like,

900
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: did you start taking any new vitamins or supplements and

901
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: she was like yeah, and he's like, that's it. That's

902
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: what it is, nuts, right, Well.

903
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people think, because supplements are

904
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: considered a more holistic approach, that there's nothing dangerous in them,

905
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: and they're often taking them because they could just buy

906
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: them at the store without consulting a doctor. And it's

907
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: just really interesting because I don't think a lot of

908
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: people that I don't know if all, but most supplements

909
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: are not FDA approve, so it's really concerning how people

910
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: just kind of pop them without a second thought just

911
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 2: because they think they're healthier.

912
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think because we were talking, i think

913
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: last week or two weeks ago about the ones that

914
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: are getting sold on Amazon and stuff which people are

915
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: having issues with because I mean, if you're getting it

916
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: from like a brand named place, you're probably more likely

917
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: to not have as many problems with it because it's

918
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: but not really that's even a lie, honestly, Like they

919
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: don't it's not FDA regulated, Like you don't know what

920
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: the hell is in this stuff, which is a problem,

921
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: and I think most people don't really have an issue

922
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: with it, but you could also take too much of it,

923
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: and it's just it's damaging. And there are other cases.

924
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to look up some cases today

925
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: if there was any other autopsy reports, because we should

926
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: have wrote up that one for sure, because that was

927
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: a crazy one. But luckily they're able to help her out.

928
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: They also say sometimes that certain supplements could like start

929
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: exacerbating issues that were already there. So if she was

930
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: overweight for a large portion of her life. She might

931
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: have had some degree of like fatty liver or something

932
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: going on, and it could have just like aggravated that

933
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: condition that was going on a little bit more, or

934
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: or it just was like straight up toxic to her.

935
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: But she had said that it was a brand name,

936
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: common supplement that people use for hair and Naw, they

937
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: didn't say in this article the exact one.

938
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: Well I think maybe they didn't because well, I don't know, Yeah,

939
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: I saw it on her TikTok what it was, so like,

940
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: I know it's what it was, Which.

941
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: Was that one in my cabinet?

942
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: By No, it was just a hair, skin and nail

943
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: supplement from CBS. This is, of course, but she is

944
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 2: claiming we're not saying this definitely does it. She had

945
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: a weird complication from Yeah, but exactly. It is important

946
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: to check with your medical provider before taking anything.

947
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: I think yeah, and a lot of times too, like

948
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: they could interact with drugs. So when you go to

949
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: the doctor and they ask you what medicine you're on,

950
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: you really should tell them all that kind of stuff.

951
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: I think it's it's kind of crazy now with all

952
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: the gummies and everything, people are just taking like a

953
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: lot of stuff I used to. I feel like I

954
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: used to take a lot of supplements, right, And then

955
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: I sat there one day and said, like, this is

956
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty dollars a month of all

957
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: this thirty dollars here, thirty dollars. It really is, right,

958
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: and then I just stopped taking all of them one day,

959
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: all of them, and like, I'm the same as I was,

960
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: like I never like I really never had one that

961
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is life changing, except the one I

962
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: take this one around this time of year, the the

963
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: vitamin D because it's especially in New Jersey it's been

964
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: like gray since December, and then all of a sudden,

965
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: the stunt starts coming out, and you know, I got

966
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: that weird skin thing happening when it's like April May June.

967
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: I just if I have like my first real sun exposure,

968
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: I get like that crazy rash and everything. So I

969
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: started taking two of those a day, like around April

970
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: until the midsummer, and I you know, it's a combination

971
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: of other things, medications I'm on and things like that,

972
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: but I haven't had that bad rash in a couple

973
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: of years, so I'm like, maybe it works. I don't know,

974
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: but but like other than that, like, have you ever

975
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: taken a supplement that you're just like, oh my god,

976
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: like this is mind blowing.

977
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: Well, I take this cortisol one that is for like,

978
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: I had really high cortisol and I started I was

979
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: recommended it by a doctor and I started taking it.

980
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 2: And I do feel like I haven't had such lingering

981
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: anxiety all the time, like I was having, like there

982
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: was a point it's a placebo you it could it

983
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: could be a place ebo.

984
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: You don't know that because you don't live in my body.

985
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: So then I'm the next closest thing I think. I

986
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: I think it's all like it's kind of like the

987
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: biggest scam ever. Whatever.

988
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: I was hearing a really good conversation on another podcast

989
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: this morning actually, where they were discussing how all these

990
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: all these holistic doctors will have you taking like four

991
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 2: hundred vitamins for mental health, Like in my case, I'm

992
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: taking this fun for anxiety, right, and that you don't

993
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: really feel better and you're taking all these things and

994
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: you're having to do stuff like do cold plunges and

995
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: go in asana and all this stuff so you don't

996
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: feel anxious all day but there's just like a pill

997
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: you could take every morning that makes you feel amazing

998
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: and you don't have to do all this stuff. And

999
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: I was cracking up because they were saying, like, everybody

1000
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 2: criticizes Big Pharma, but nobody's criticizing Big Supplement, Like they're

1001
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: kind of no, it's.

1002
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: True, it's true. It's it's like it's I'm telling you, like,

1003
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: it's a scam. It's a lot, a lot of it

1004
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: is a huge scam. And now especially their shit is

1005
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: like blowing up because of social media because you see

1006
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: videos all the time like you should really take magnesium,

1007
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: you should really take.

1008
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: This, you should really and then all these people are like,

1009
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I should take that too, and all of

1010
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's like they're like those supplement companies are

1011
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 2: like killing it right now, they're killing it.

1012
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1013
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: I mean a couple of years ago, I had gotten

1014
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: these supplements that were designed specifically for painful periods, and

1015
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: like I took them for a year and let me

1016
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: tell you, it did not make one fucking difference at all.

1017
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: And they made how much and how much was it

1018
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: a month? A lot? Like thirty bucks a month. Yeah,

1019
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying like it adds up when you're

1020
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: taking a lot of them, Like you're just like, wait

1021
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: a second, this is like kind of a lot of

1022
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: money here.

1023
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: And I think some vitamins are really good, especially if

1024
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 2: you have like deficiencies and you just need a little

1025
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: boost of something. But like a lot of these ones

1026
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: you see ads for and stuff, it's like you just

1027
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 2: don't need it. It's okay, it's nuts.

1028
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: Okay. So this guy decided that, you know, his stomach

1029
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: curt and doctors weren't listening to him, so he decided

1030
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: to go on YouTube and do surgery on himself.

1031
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about how ridiculous this is, because

1032
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: when we decided to sert the podcast, I was like,

1033
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch a couple YouTube videos to figure out

1034
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: how to make the podcast, not how to do surgery

1035
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 2: on myself. Oh, it's so ridiculous.

1036
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: YouTube university is like the best for so many things. Yeah, specifically,

1037
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: remember when like some person parked their hooptie outside of

1038
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: my house for weeks and weeks and we didn't know

1039
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: who it was and it just was sitting there, and

1040
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: then Gabe learned how to move the car up the street.

1041
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: That was amazing. It was just like, oh, like how

1042
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: to just like move a car that's parked in front

1043
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: of your house. It was so amazing. It's like the

1044
00:54:53,360 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: best YouTube university advertisement ever. But there's just there are

1045
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: so many things that you go on there and like

1046
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: like I had I usually get these young coconuts and

1047
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: they brought me like the hairy one by accident when

1048
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: I ordered my groceries, and I was like, oh, I

1049
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: don't really know how to open this, but I want

1050
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: to eat it because I've like I just never had one.

1051
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: I eat them often, if especially like in New York

1052
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: when they cooked them on the side of the street,

1053
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: which is the best thing ever. But I you know,

1054
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: you just like look a video and it shows you

1055
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 1: how to do it real fast, and you're like, oh cool,

1056
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: Like just like little things like that all the time.

1057
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: So the podcast things like normal learn how to do

1058
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: this and.

1059
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: That, embroidery to embroidery, but like, I don't know, doing

1060
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: surgery on yourself.

1061
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: And I guess, I mean he wasn't looking at self

1062
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: surgery videos. I'm supposing I think he was just looking

1063
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: at other ones. But listen, like honestly, like it kind

1064
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: of worked. He kind of did it. I mean, like,

1065
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he's alive, so well I'm saying, like

1066
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: he did it, and so let's say what he did. Okay,

1067
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: So he's thirty two and he has a history of

1068
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: he had appendectomy. He had his appendix removed fifteen years ago,

1069
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: so when he was a kid he had that removed

1070
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: or teenager, and he had stomach He had stomach pain

1071
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: that he kept going to the doctor for and they

1072
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: just were kept blowing them off and saying whatever, and

1073
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: he was saying it was driving them nuts. So he

1074
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: decided he essentially was going to do an exploratory laparotomy

1075
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: on himself, which is he cut an incision in his abdomen,

1076
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: on his abdominal wall to like look and feel inside

1077
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: to see if he could see what was wrong to

1078
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: remove it. Now, he probably he could have been having

1079
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: pain because he could have had like a lot of

1080
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: adhesions from the previous surgery, which is like scar tissue

1081
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: because sometimes when you get your appendix removed, especially I

1082
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: don't know if he had an open appendectomy or a

1083
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: laparoscopic one, but like it causes a lot of scars

1084
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: and it could cause the part of the bow to

1085
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: like stick to the abdominal wall and it could just

1086
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: cause pain. So that's more than likely what he had

1087
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: going on. But he somehow like went to some market.

1088
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: This was in another India or yeah, in India. In India,

1089
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: he went to like a market and he got some

1090
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: numbing stuff and he got a suit your kid, and

1091
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: he got all this stuff. So he goes back to

1092
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: his house and he starts doing it and like he

1093
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: has no pain. But then the numbing stuff started wearing off,

1094
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: and that's when he started like screaming in his room,

1095
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: and his family realized that he was doing something weird

1096
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: in his room. I'm not sure that you would ever,

1097
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, you hear your kids from time to time

1098
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: scream from upstairs or something and running up there. You

1099
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect somebody to be doing surgery on themself. But

1100
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: apparently he said he went inside, he didn't see anything.

1101
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: He felt something abnormal on his stomach, he said, and

1102
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: he tried to remove it and he couldn't, so he

1103
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: sewed him self back up with eleven sutures and then

1104
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: he started screaming in pain. Like I guess it all

1105
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: like ow, like the numbing's wearing off and this this

1106
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: has come this is all coming together now. So obviously

1107
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: they immediately take him to the hospital. And the biggest

1108
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: thing that you're scared of in that case is infection,

1109
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: because god knows what was all over his hands, if

1110
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: he was even wearing gloves, but they definitely probably weren't sterile,

1111
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: and it's just really bad to introduce bacteria into there.

1112
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: And who knows what he did, but I mean he

1113
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: went in and he sewed himself up like old school,

1114
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: like back in the day what they used to do.

1115
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 1: It was pretty amazing ridiculous. So you know that there

1116
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: was a guy, there's a doctor who like successfully gave

1117
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: himself surgery back in the sixties.

1118
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: Right, I've heard of this, but I just can't ever

1119
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: fathom doing something well.

1120
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: So he was so he was like in the Arctic

1121
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: or something on some kind of expedition and he he

1122
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: was a surgeon, and he was having appendicitis and he

1123
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: knew it and he was just like, if I don't

1124
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: remove my appendix right now, I'm going to die. He

1125
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: had no way to get to a hospital or a

1126
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: doctor or anything like that, and he did it. Like

1127
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: I can't even I can't even imagine like having that

1128
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: conversation with a friend you're with or whatever. I don't know,

1129
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: just like there's cases of people doing it though it's

1130
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: it's pretty nuts, but it's cool, Like it's cool like

1131
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: that it can be done, but I wouldn't suggest doing

1132
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: it at home. And honestly, like in this case, like

1133
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: I know that the most frustrating thing ever is to

1134
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: not hear like have your doctor take you seriously, but

1135
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: like taking matters into your own hands is is you

1136
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: should kind of check someone's mental status right to do

1137
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: something like this.

1138
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: Definitely, this next story sounds like it's something that's gonna

1139
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: be on that show.

1140
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: It's Florida, man.

1141
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: Remember I wrote that article about that guy that got

1142
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: hired to cut off the guy's toes yet them. So

1143
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: this couple basically, you know, they're they're feeling it coming on.

1144
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: They're hot and bothered, and they just had to pull

1145
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 2: over in front of this cemetery that had locked gate.

1146
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: They hopped over the fence and then they started having

1147
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 2: sex on a grave of course, grave number forty three,

1148
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: Grave number forty three specifically, so this was a historic

1149
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 2: cemetery and I guess regular, I guess nobody was just

1150
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: allowed to go in there without permission. So this cop

1151
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: comes across the parked car and the windows are rolled

1152
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: down and he's like, okay, I don't see anybody. So

1153
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: he starts snooping around and finds them having sex, and

1154
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: then he also found some meth OxyS and Xanax.

1155
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: And their stars math involved in this story. Really, the

1156
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: best part of this story was that the author of

1157
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: this article wrote titled it bone Yard, and then and

1158
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: then they wrote they were they thought they were being

1159
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: dead sexy, Like, oh my god, it's so some of

1160
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: these articles are just written so funny. So I was like,

1161
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: I got a kick out of that bone Yard. Yeah.

1162
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: And this next one is local to us, which it's

1163
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: totally unbelievable.

1164
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: This one is really outrageous. The video is so outrageous. Yeah.

1165
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: So this family is burying their loved one at a

1166
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: local cemetery in North Philly, and as the pallbearers are

1167
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: bringing the casket to the burial site, the platform collapses.

1168
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: And they all fell in the hole with the casket.

1169
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so it's so disturbing. Like you

1170
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: see all of these guys in they're really nice suits

1171
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: carrying this really nice casket and it falls, Like how

1172
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: traumatizing on so many levels, but they actually got hurt.

1173
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: I mean, well, how.

1174
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: How could you not get hurt? I mean, caskets are

1175
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: so heavy, that's why they have to have like six

1176
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: grown men carrying them.

1177
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: They're a casket could be like one to three hundred

1178
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: pounds without a body in it, and the body is

1179
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: literal dead weight, right, so they're all carrying it and

1180
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean between that, so that probably right there is

1181
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: close to it could be four to five hundred pounds

1182
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: just the casket, and then each one of those dudes

1183
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: could be like, you know, one fifty to two hundred

1184
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: plus pounds. That so much weight, like they need to

1185
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: consider that there's going to be one thousand pounds standing

1186
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: on wherever they were standing, and it was like a

1187
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: wet piece of plywood or something.

1188
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they all got injured, and one guy in particular,

1189
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: the casket basically fell right on top of him and

1190
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: then it pushed his head into the mud. So I'm

1191
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 2: sure there was like a second where he's getting crushed

1192
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 2: by the casket and then he's probably suffocating on top

1193
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: of it. It's absolutely like this is unforgivable and unacceptable

1194
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 2: to me that this happened.

1195
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: This is definitely like lawsuit worthy in my opinion, and

1196
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: not surprised that it happened in North Billy, Like, yeah,

1197
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: the corners that get cut at some of these funeral

1198
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: homes are just like, come on, dude. Yeah, And the.

1199
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 2: Family was saying that it was wobbly and the wood

1200
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 2: was wet and soaked so the ground if it had

1201
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 2: been raining, I'm sure the ground was soggy too and slippery,

1202
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: so it clearly just wasn't set up correctly. And how

1203
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 2: many funerals happen a day, we don't hear about this

1204
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 2: ever happening.

1205
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: No, it's it really, it's it's upsetting because the guys

1206
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: are they look nice, they're in their suits like they're mourning. Whoever.

1207
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're carrying the casket, you're like one

1208
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: of the inner circle, right yeah, I mean just think

1209
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: about that. The family's all watching. It's just it's just

1210
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: like ridiculous. You know, when someone dies, and and funeral

1211
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: homes have huge responsibilities because when someone dies, the last

1212
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: thing you want to do is inflict even more pain

1213
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: on them than they're already going through.

1214
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 2: So is that who sets it up. Is it the

1215
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: funeral home or the cemetery that sets up.

1216
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: I don't, well, what for the actual I don't really

1217
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: know act at the gravesite.

1218
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just curious, like who actually sets up

1219
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: the system which lowers the casket and the platform and everything.

1220
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 2: I would think that that's more of the cemetery thing,

1221
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: to be honest, But I don't know what association the

1222
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: funeral home.

1223
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: Has with it too. But I really don't know, Like

1224
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: that's not I like, once the funeral hum picks a

1225
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: body up from the hospital, I have no idea really

1226
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: what happens after that, like just from talking to friends

1227
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: and things like that, but like that's not my thing.

1228
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this either, but on

1229
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: the news video of this at the very end, they

1230
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: were saying that the damaged wood that broke through was

1231
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: just like thrown off to the side after they completed

1232
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: the burial. So I'm like, okay, so they had to

1233
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: go through this horrific thing and then you're just gonna

1234
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 1: leave it a mess at the gravesite. It's just so disrespectful. Yeah,

1235
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: it really is.

1236
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: All right, Let's move on to questions of the day.

1237
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: Every Friday at the at mother nos Death Instagram account,

1238
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 2: You guys could head over to our story and ask

1239
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: us whatever you want. First, what are the differences between

1240
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: a PA and an autopsy tech.

1241
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: Well, a PA is a pathology a pathologist assistance. That's

1242
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: what I am, and so we have to have a

1243
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: bachelor's degree. At a master's degree, the master's program specializes

1244
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: in pathology, so it's similar like you guys probably go

1245
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: to the doctor and have a physician assistant, while we're

1246
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: like a physician assistant to the pathologist. So we have

1247
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: a whole entire different program than the physician's assistants do

1248
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: because we're dealing with organs and dead people in anatomy

1249
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: more than that they would be. So we have to

1250
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: just learn a whole different way of doing things than

1251
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: they would do because we don't take care of live patients,

1252
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: so we don't really have any emphasis on pharmacy or

1253
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: anything like that because like we're not giving patients medications,

1254
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: and it's just a different it's just a totally different field.

1255
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: So when we do the autopsy, we could do the

1256
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: autopsy by ourself, and a pathologist always has to really

1257
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: be there. Technically, they don't have to be in the

1258
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: room with us, but they have to be on the

1259
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: case because they're the ones that are going to look

1260
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: at the microscopic slides that we take from them. But

1261
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: we're we have more authority to do the whole thing

1262
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: by ourself without having anybody there present because we're trained

1263
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 1: to do it, and autopsy tech is a little bit

1264
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: different they are, so they will eviscerate basically, they'll take

1265
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: care of the more ex ceta for the autopsy and

1266
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: they'll evisceraate so they could make the incisions and take

1267
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: the organs out, but really they're not trained to know

1268
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: what they're looking for. There always should be a pathologist

1269
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: or a PA with them to watch what they're doing,

1270
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: just because they're not allowed to take out all the

1271
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 1: organs and then like go tell the doctor hours later

1272
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: what they saw. They just don't have that educational requirement

1273
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. That particular position used

1274
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: to be called the deaner back in the day. I

1275
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody's ever heard of that position, but

1276
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: now I think they call it an autopsy tech. So

1277
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: they're usually just side by side, especially like in medical

1278
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: examiner's offices and stuff, because sometimes in bigger offices there

1279
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: could be multiple bodies lined up in a row. And

1280
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: then this way the doctor could just be there and

1281
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: like go body to body, but not have to do

1282
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: all of the heavy lifting and dirty work basically all right.

1283
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: Next, in homicide cases where they used a weapon, did

1284
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: they leave it in the body if it's stuck, Yes,

1285
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: they would, they would, they would leave it in the body.

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Speaker 2: So for example Ellen Greenberg, well, so I don't know,

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Speaker 2: because I don't believe that the boyfriend pulled the knife out.

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Speaker 1: Right, I don't. I don't remember that case. But Ellen Greenberg,

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Speaker 1: she was one of the high profile death disseections that

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Speaker 1: we've covered, and when she died, she had a knife

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Speaker 1: lodged in her chest. Still, so under normal circumstances, if

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Speaker 1: no one removes it at the scene, which which a

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Speaker 1: regular person should never do that anyway, they would bring

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Speaker 1: the body to the medical examiner's office and then they

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Speaker 1: would they would leave every everything gets left in place.

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Speaker 1: And that that's for anything like let's say a person

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Speaker 1: got impelled by something and died. You would want to

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Speaker 1: leave as much as possible for them to examine, just

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Speaker 1: so they could really clearly document the injuries and exactly

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Speaker 1: what caused the person to die. Sometimes obviously you couldn't because,

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Speaker 1: like I don't know, if it's like a huge fence

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Speaker 1: at Stepta, you can't bring it with you, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, like things like that.

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Speaker 2: But all right, last, what do you guys typically do

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Speaker 2: on a day off?

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Speaker 1: You want to go first?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean most of the time it's boring, like

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Speaker 2: I'll catch up on my like I'll clean my house

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Speaker 2: or do chores or meal prep or something like that.

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Speaker 2: If it's like a nice day out, I like to

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Speaker 2: go out and go shopping. Not shopping like for clothes.

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Speaker 2: I just like to like go to a vintage Doore

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Speaker 2: or bookstore and get a nice coffee or just like

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Speaker 2: do something and walk around because when I'm in my

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Speaker 2: house all day like makes you stare crazy.

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Speaker 1: So like Maria's like get such like a towny, like

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Speaker 1: she she likes going all these towns and like trying

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Speaker 1: every little coffee shop and little shops and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: That's like that's her thing all the time, no matter what.

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Speaker 2: The coffee we had on Sunday at that place on

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Speaker 2: Rowan's campus was pretty delicious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good. I got to match it and

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Speaker 1: it was good. Yeah, And I don't really I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't have an exciting life either, trust me. I

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Speaker 1: cook when like I take like hours to cook though,

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Speaker 1: Like I like to cook really good meals, especially like

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Now that it's getting warmer out, I'll be guarding,

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Speaker 1: so I'll be outside, like making my outside look awesome.

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Speaker 1: For a couple of months. We go to Phillies games.

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Speaker 1: They started. We didn't even go to one yet, but

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Speaker 1: that's we have partial season, so we go, all of us,

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Speaker 1: our whole family goes a lot and just like go

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Speaker 1: We go down the shore too. In the summer. Like

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Speaker 1: in the winter, it's kind of like whatever, do projects

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Speaker 1: around the house and stuff. Nothing that exciting. We do movies,

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Speaker 1: TV shows. Yeah, we're not very fun. We're not nothing

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Speaker 1: crazy going on here.

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Speaker 2: No, I laugh because you know when we do the show.

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Speaker 2: For example, today, I'm like, I'm wearing like a nice

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Speaker 2: top for the show, but I'm wearing like pajama possums

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Speaker 2: right now. That's like, that's like what happens like when

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Speaker 2: I work from home, I look like a total slob

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Speaker 2: and then I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just just like really funny. I have,

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Speaker 1: like I don't know if I've ever told you guys this,

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Speaker 1: but I have like a I hate when people wear

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Speaker 1: pajamas like in public. And it's like one of my

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Speaker 1: pet peeves that I can't now that's so surprising that

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Speaker 1: you don't like that. It's seriously, is just oh my god,

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Speaker 1: it annoys me so like every single day when I

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Speaker 1: wake up, I get dressed like the pajamas after nine

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Speaker 1: o'clock or like, no, I just I'm not tolerant of

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Speaker 1: it out in public.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't wear my pajama pants out in public.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm just gonna be in the house all day,

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Speaker 2: then it's the same.

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Speaker 1: Thing as like the rule about making your bed every day, Like.

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Speaker 2: I certainly don't do that. Yeah, it's you should. Though

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Speaker 2: there's like lots of studies done that show that people

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Speaker 2: are more productive that make their bed every day. It's

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Speaker 2: like it's pretty productive, so listen, it sets off a

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Speaker 2: cascade in your mind and you don't even know it.

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Speaker 2: Like once you do that, if you wake up and

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Speaker 2: do that, then it's like you've already accomplished something for

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Speaker 2: the day. And they their studies have said that it

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Speaker 2: leads to doing more tasks throughout the day.

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Speaker 1: I'm just sure. I mean I do.

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Speaker 2: I do a lot of tasks during the day, so

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Speaker 2: I don't feel I'd like to add putting.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to add putting clothes onto that too. You do, actually,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to give you too much shit

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Speaker 1: because you you are a productive human. But I'm just

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Speaker 1: thanks just putting it out there.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for putting your criticisms aside for me. It's just

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: so nice, all right, guys, don't I mean if you

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01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 2: ever tried to go in public, I would I would

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Speaker 2: not allow it, or I would not do that because

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Speaker 2: I don't do that, so like it's not even a

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Speaker 2: concern for me, So all right, well whatever, Thank you

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Speaker 2: guys so much.

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Speaker 1: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologists assistant.

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Speaker 1: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

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