1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: What is up everybody. Welcome to a Friday issue of 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: Texas All Access from the Hounday Texans and Radio Studio 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: as we embark on a weekend, and a key weekend 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: at that legal free agent tampering period begins on Monday. 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: So a lot of things to do on this show. 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Glad to be with you. I'm your host, John Harris, 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: football analyst and sideline reporter. We're gonna have Drew Doherty 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: on to play gut reaction later get his thoughts on 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: some of the things that have happened throughout the NFL. 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Plenty of things have happened. My man David Fletcher, general 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: manager LSS Loan Star Sports Entertainment, is gonna join us 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: and talk about the greatest college football weekend ever and 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: an energy stadium coming up this year at twenty nineteen. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: That's right, we will have that. But first we're starting 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: tonight's show with new quarterbacks coach Carl Smith. Now blot's 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: been written about coach Smith, Aaron Reese of The Athletic 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: and I actually sent him a text afterwards. It was 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: a really good article about Carl Smith. And we had 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: a blast talking with coach Smith earlier this week and here. 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: It is Mark vandermir and I sat down with the 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: new quarterbacks coach, Carl Smith, your Houston Texas coach. Great 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: to have you with us. How has it been so 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: far for you here in the building? Undefeated? Undefeated? What 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: are you making the rodeo here? I believe they do leave, 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: they're not around during football season. I like it. I 26 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: saw Casey Musgraves. I probably wouldn't have seen her otherwise. 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: She was fantastic. She was had a chance to see 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: her with my daughter. I didn't know who Casey Musgraves was. 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: It shows you how out of it I am. But 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: my daughter wanted to see her coach, so I was like, 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: all right, let's go. She was great. She was and 32 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: the rodeo people, they were outstanding. I hadn't I've been 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: to a rodeo it's been about twenty years. They were 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: really good. Coach, you been around a lot of different quarterbacks. 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: If somebody came to you and said, what's the one asset? 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Then in a successful NFL quarterback has got to have? 37 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: What asset would you say that quarterback's got to have? Well, 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: I've got my whole evaluation down because they just came 39 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: from the combined. Of course. Uh, he has to be 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: able to survive in the jungle. So he has to 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: be physical enough to play with the guys, uh, you 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: know against Jadavian Clowney JJ Watt. He has to be 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: able to survive in the jungle. What does that a tail? 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: Because you got to keep your eyes downfield, you gotta 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: make throws, but you also have to keep your head 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: on a swivel and avoid those kinds of contact situations. 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you read into that. I'm just 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: looking for somebody who's athlete enough to play in the game. 49 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: It's it's you can look in uh the NBA. It's like, 50 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: who's going to be able to you know, college guards, right, 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: the great college guards they can't play in the NBA. 52 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: You know, they just they can't. You know, maybe two guys. Uh, 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: they got to be able to be in there with 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Lebron and Steph and all the Rockets guys. And it's 55 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: the same thing here. There's really good college quarterbacks coming 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: out this year, right, and every year there's twelve guys 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: that come out. There's about two guys that make it 58 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: every year, and they might make a team, but they're 59 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: not gonna start for your team, there's only a couple 60 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: of guys with enough physical talent to play, So that's 61 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: what I'm looking for. I'm looking for somebody with the 62 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: talent of Deshaun Watson, with physical talent of Russell Wilson 63 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: drew bled, so I don't on What about the mental 64 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: talent though? How do you measure that or try to 65 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: before they become pros? You're watch them play in college. 66 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: You can see that. Yeah, simple as that. Can they play, 67 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna watch them? Coach. Last year when you were 68 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: with Seattle, and I know when you're you're you're dealing 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: with your offense. Do you get a chance to sneak 70 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: a peek at de Shaun Watson? What do you think 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: of him when you got a chance to see him 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: up close? I didn't seem much this year. We didn't 73 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: play against him two years ago, I guess in twenty seventeen. Yeah, 74 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: they killedness, so so it was good. But I had 75 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: evaluated him coming out. I got to talk to him 76 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: with the combine, very impressed. I still remember this day 77 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: some of his answers. And then we have film. We 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: filmed those games from last year, so I watched every 79 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: one of them. It's fantastic. Bill O'Brien talks about your 80 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: experience and working in a lot of different systems with 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: a lot of different quarterbacks, and I find it really 82 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: fascinating the different kinds of players you've worked with because 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: they have different physical skill sets, but as you say, 84 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: they can survive in the jungle. But let's let's go 85 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: over some of these guys, if you will, you know, 86 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: having worked in I'm gonna start here, coach, I'm going 87 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: way back. Yeah, I've got the whole list right here, 88 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: because I don't want to miss anything. I don't want 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: to and I'm not going to talk about Lamar or 90 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: Southwestern Louisiana. I'm gonna talk about the Philadelphia Stars. Ye've 91 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: seen it. You know. I wanted to get to this. 92 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: But back in the day, you worked at the USFL 93 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: and you're a special teams coordinator right for the Philadelphia Stars. 94 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: The first year, I was yes, okay, what was that 95 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: experience like and with that team, and that was the 96 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: premier team in that league, which still gets a lot 97 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: of retroactive respect. We are talking about the USFL. Yeah, 98 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 1: United States Football. You know, nobody's listening to this, Okay, 99 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: they are believed, but I love talking about it. It 100 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: was great because I was there three years. I had 101 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: the tight ends the first year on the special teams, 102 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: then I had the quarterbacks and whiteouts. In the third year, 103 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: I called the plays. Now the second year, I called 104 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: the passes. The Jim murkinback, who's passed? Jim. He'd be 105 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: standing there, he'd be calling the plays, and then he 106 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: just hit me on the arm. All they had to 107 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: do to scout was just look over there. Shouldn't Jim 108 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: hit me. He was like, I think it's a pass. 109 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: So I called the pass plays and then the somewhere 110 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: in there after I think week four, we were losing 111 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: at the start of the third year in the USFL, 112 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: and I had this look on my face and coach 113 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: more he was a coach Timmons said, what, well, if 114 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: you've seen is just a little bump that we threw 115 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: into the wind, and now we've got the win. We've 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: called no passes and and they had four or five things. 117 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: He said, Okay, you're calling the placement. So we did. 118 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: It was fantastic because because we went to the championship 119 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: game all three years, and year two and year three 120 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: we won it. You know, We beat herschel Walker in 121 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: the in the playoff game before the last I think 122 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: championship game. They didn't make it. It was fantastic we won. 123 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: How about this? That just daught on me as we 124 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: were talking. How many coaches. I don't think there's an 125 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: answer to this. How many coaches could say they want 126 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: championships in the USFL You did with the Baltimore Stars. 127 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: You want a college championship with usc yep, although it 128 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: is that still count. That's good enough. It's good enough. 129 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: We're gonna count it. You want a Super Bowl with 130 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. Yep. You've won a championship at every 131 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: football league I think there's been. I don't know there's 132 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: many coaches they can say that. If you add the 133 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: Wasco Tigers in the South COREYA League and the Bakersford 134 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: College Renegades, I think that that's just me, that's just you. 135 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it can't be. He can't. He can't be 136 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: many others. As Mark alluded to, you coached different quarterbacks. 137 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: You coached Chuck fiusinaim kind of a pocket guy. Drew 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: bled so obviously had one of the strongest arms you've 139 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: ever seen. You coach Matt Leinert when he was at USC. 140 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: So you coach, you know, pocket guys and an all 141 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden you're in Seattle and you get out 142 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: you get a guy like Russell Wilson who when the 143 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: ball is snapped, that's when the fun begins. How different 144 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: was it dealing with a guy like Russell that could 145 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: do some different things that maybe the other quarterbacks couldn't do. 146 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: What was it like coaching him? It was terrific. He's 147 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: as advertised for you that don't know. I mean, he's 148 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: got an image, but that's him. He's terrific guy. He 149 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: works on it every day. Um, he listens to what 150 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: you say. He works on his game. Anything you're ask 151 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: him to do, he's gonna work on. So it was 152 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: it was great fun. It's not like he can't from 153 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. But he's got a tremendous story because 154 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: they had Matt Flynn there and he was able to 155 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: be him out and prove that he was the franchise 156 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: guy very quickly. Very few guys have that ability, especially 157 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: when they when it wasn't spotted right away as a 158 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: third round rapp pick. Yeah, that was an interesting deal 159 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: and you have to give coach Carroll Credit and Russell. 160 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: Of course, at the end of the mini camp, Pete 161 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: put it out there as like quarterback competition is open. 162 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to remind Rusted he threw eight interceptions in 163 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: those three practices, you know, and at the end of 164 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: that Pete thought he was so good that he opened 165 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: the competition. Competition has always opened in every position, but 166 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: to publicly state it, ye, it's like, you know, it 167 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: had some power to it. You know, it's a great 168 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: way to emphasize his core belief that competition. It's all 169 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: about competition. So despite those interceptions, you guys saw the ability, 170 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: the raw ability, and you felt like it could get 171 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: corrected and move on from there. Yeah. Yeah, you can 172 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: tell he had spark and all that stuff, and so 173 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: we just we just went about it day by day, 174 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: and he really wanted in the preseason games he started. 175 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: He was the third guy to go out in the 176 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: first preseason game, the second guy to go out in 177 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: the second one. In the third game at Kansas City, 178 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: we had Terrell Owens and Kellen Winslow on that team 179 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: at that point and they both got released, but he 180 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: was in with those guys and started, and he was 181 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: electric and at that point at the end of that game, 182 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: Pete said he started the first game, he didn't go 183 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: past that, and in the first few games it was 184 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: a game, game to game deals like should we go 185 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: another week, Yeah, let's give another week. So we didn't 186 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: start very well, and they're still going with him at 187 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: that point. What makes this opportunity coach to be with 188 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: the Houston Texas and coach to Shaun Watson to be 189 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: on the staff. What made this spot attractive for you? 190 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that are attractive about the 191 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Houston Texas. You know, we just won eleven games. I 192 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: saw him the year before and they were lights out. 193 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: They had us beat in Seattle. They're blue. I like 194 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: teams that are blue. But the biggest attraction is my 195 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: son and coaches here. His assistant special teams coach last 196 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: year and he came in with coach Seely. We go 197 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: back to eighty two. I got him to go to 198 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: NC State from Lamar, right down the road. Those connections, 199 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: and then I've known coach O'Brien not well, but I've 200 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: known him for years, so I know I have faith 201 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: in what he's doing. Got the thumbs up from Coach seely, 202 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: so that was the main attraction. Pete Carroll in New 203 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: England versus Pete Carroll at Seattle. Was there a difference 204 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: in the way he handled things or how did that go? 205 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: How did that differ? In your opinion? Total different job. 206 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: So he had zero control at the Patriots and none 207 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: so he could just coach the team. There's no difference 208 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: in him as a football coach at Seattle. He and 209 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: John do the personnel together. When you have your son 210 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: and you have Tracy, do you ever think at some point, 211 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: first of all, he'll be a football coach, and when 212 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: he does become a football coach, hey, one, dad, I'd 213 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: love to be able to coach with him. Is that 214 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: something you always thought about? And I ask you this 215 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: as a coach's son, I always thought about coaching my 216 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: dad at some point and I thought, you know, my 217 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: dad are probably gonna get a fight on the sidelines. 218 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: It's not a good thing. Did you ever did you 219 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: ever think that it could happen that you would one 220 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: day coach with your son. Really no, he told his mom. 221 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: He didn't tell me when he was in the fourth 222 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: grade that he was going to coach football. So somewhere 223 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: in there, she told me. And I've been working against 224 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: it since then. You know, it's like and I couldn't 225 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 1: get him out of football, So it's like, what about personnel? 226 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: You know those guys sometimes stay, you know when all 227 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: the coaches have to leave town. So no, and then 228 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: he wouldn't come off of it. But I never didn't 229 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: think we coached together. I three quarterbacks. I want to 230 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: ask you about real quickly here that you've coached, and 231 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: just give me a quick thumbnail on what you think 232 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: is their best or was their best trait as a player. 233 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: First one, Bobby a bear, tenacity, deep balls. Here's a 234 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: good deep ball thrower. Had touched on the deep ball 235 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: and gold ball and tenacity. He's got quickness in the pocket. 236 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: You'd think he couldn't move at all, but he had reactions, 237 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: quick reactions. Did you understand any word? He said? My 238 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: wife is from Lafayette, Louisiana, So again, okay, she's a 239 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: praision Her mama was a mootan, so yes, yeah. And 240 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: the ab now a talk show host in New Orleans. 241 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: Drew blood Cell. Let me go back to Bobby. Well, 242 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm at it, okay, So I actually him playing high 243 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: school so I recruited and uh coach coach Oseron. Yeah, 244 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: they were teammates right there, and Uh I recruited Coacho. 245 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: I did not recruit Bobby. Nobody recruited Bobby. Coacho was 246 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: in my house anyway. He was just Babe Oseron at 247 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: the time. And you coached against Aber the USFL, Yes, yes, 248 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: I did so. I've known him way back. He grew 249 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: like five inches after his senior year. Northwestern Louisiana picked 250 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: him up. Blood cell, great arm, fantastic arm, and Matt 251 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: Leonard in college. Matt, let's see, well he was just 252 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: a killer. We everything worked there. Everything worked. We win 253 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: the national championship about thirty and won all our games. 254 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: So that's why I had to leave. Of course, fun 255 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: all our games and up trophy, so I had to 256 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: get the heck out of there. Well, we really appreciate 257 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: the time coach like the left for being with us. Okay, 258 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: thanks guys. When I'm telling you, we had a blast 259 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: talking to Coach Smith. I it might be one of 260 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: the more fun assistant coaching interviews that we have ever done. Now, 261 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver always takes a cake because we've and I 262 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: did radio way way way back together. But we even 263 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: talked to Coach Smith for about probably seven to ten 264 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: minutes afterwards that I wish we would have recorded too, 265 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: because we just started asking about all, you know, the 266 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: various other quarterbacks he's been around. He told us some 267 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: of the Matt Liner stories, and I mean, it just 268 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: would have been great stuff to hear, but we cut 269 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: it off there, and he was so much fun, and 270 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a really good piece for 271 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: this offense with Tim Kelly. The experience that Carl has 272 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: had in all these different systems with different coaches and 273 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: different quarterbacks provide that for Dashaun. I think Carl's gonna 274 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: be fantastic. So we really appreciate Tim Kelly and Carl 275 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: Smith for joining us this week. That was great stuff 276 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: from Carl. Really can't thank him enough, and hopefully we'll 277 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: be able to get him back on and talk. Man. 278 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: I could do a whole segment on USFL, a whole 279 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: segment on USFL and his days with Chuff Fusseen. I mean, 280 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: that story told us about the Baltimore Stars was was 281 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: just great. It was really really good stuff. So there 282 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: you have it. Now. Coming up next, it's our good 283 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: friend general manager of LSSC David Fletch is gonna stop 284 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: by talk about the greatest college football weekend at NARG 285 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: Stadium in its history. We'll do that next right here 286 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: on Texas Access. Welcome back to Friday, Niue of the 287 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: Texas All Access from the Hounday Texans Radio Studio. I'm 288 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: John Harris, football Analysts, said the Reporter, and every September, 289 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: every December, I got a chance to go up on 290 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: the deck with Drew Doherty when it's time for the 291 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: Afcare Texas Kickoff, and it's also time for the Academy 292 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl. Joining me right now talk 293 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: about that. And then some is the general manager of LSSSE, 294 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: exactive director of the Bowl game. My man, David Fletcher Fletch. 295 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: What's going on, buddy? How are you doing? I'm doing great, Johnny. 296 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: You're totally minimizing yourself. Don't forget every single week during 297 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: the season, we've got content in the College Football Insider 298 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: Days letter from Johnny Harris. You know, it's funny you 299 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: say that because they're just so many there's so many 300 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: different times where I'm doing content for things that are 301 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: outside the Texas I just I tend to forget. It's like, 302 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: oh yeah that radio show Tex Saggs and oh yeah, yeah, 303 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: I did that. And so there's so many different things 304 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: that end up popping up on my list. I forgot 305 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: about that, But that's always it's always funny to do 306 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: talk about the college football side of my life. It's must. 307 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: It's must. It's appointment reading. And I love reading it, 308 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: and we appreciate you doing it. I know our fans 309 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: and college football fans in general love hearing from you. 310 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: It's great to have an expert like you. And this 311 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: year in particular, Yeah, I mean, with as big a 312 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: college football calendar as we've got at Lone Star this year, 313 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be even more fun seeing what you 314 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: got on the horizon. Yeah, no doubt. Let's talk about that, fletch. 315 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: And first of all, I want to talk about something 316 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: I saw the other day, and then we're gonna get 317 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: into what could very well be the greatest confootball weekend 318 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: here in Houston, what we're gonna have in September. We're 319 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: gonna get that. So I want to I want to 320 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: dive into that. But I saw earlier this week at 321 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: tweet from Brett McMurphy saying that a few of the 322 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: bowl games are changing their conference affiliation. I think Las 323 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Vegas Bowl, the SEC slash Big ten is moving in 324 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: to take on I think the PAC twelve. There was 325 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: another one where I think the SEC and Big Ten 326 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: we're moving in as well. And it got me thinking 327 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: about your relationship with the two conferences, the SEC in 328 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. Why, in your opinion, has that been 329 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: so good for you? How I has it been good 330 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: for us to see? Why has it been good for 331 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: the city of Houston to have those two partners, the 332 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: SEC in the Big Twelve in this game. Yeah, it's 333 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: it's been a game changer for us. You know, we 334 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: talk a lot about about the things that have helped 335 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: build up the fourteen years of the Academy Sports and 336 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Outdoors Texas Bowl into one of the premier games in 337 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: the country. You look at our of course, bringing the 338 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: game back in general, and the relationship we've had with 339 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve since day one. You look at the 340 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: opportunity we've had as partners and working with ESPN. You 341 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: look at Academy Sports and Outdoors, a fantastic local company 342 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: with deep roots in college football, being part of the 343 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: equation but I don't think anything has been bigger for 344 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: our event and the perception of what we're doing here 345 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: in Houston. Then the matchup of Big twelve in SEC 346 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: that we've had the last five years in the Academy 347 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl. When you look at what 348 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: those two schools geographically mean to this region, it is 349 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: it is by far the two biggest conferences that have 350 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: a footprint rate here in the Houston market, almost colliding, 351 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: and for years the Cotton Bowl built their trade addition 352 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: off of that Big twelve slash Big eight SEC matchup 353 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: each and every year. We've been fortunate enough with the 354 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: changes in the landscape to have that the last five years. 355 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: We're very excited about the future with those two conferences. 356 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: It really just I mean, when you look at it, 357 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: for so many reasons, the geographic nature I mentioned, but 358 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: there tremendous amount of alumni for those two conferences schools 359 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: here in our market. It's the number one market for 360 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: many of those schools. And then you don't need to 361 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: look any further than where you were earlier in the 362 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: week up in Indy with what those two conferences have 363 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: relative to the talent, and so you know We've had 364 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity over the last five years to see a 365 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: number one overall pick and Miles Garrett playing the game, 366 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: a top five pick in Leonard Fournett. M we got 367 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: a guy in Patrick Mahomess, Patrick Mahomes, You've got a 368 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: guy in our very own Diante Foreman, and uh, you 369 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: got a guy this year that will definitely be a 370 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: top pick. And Drew Lucke that just played in the 371 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: game a couple of years ago. At Missouri versus Texas. 372 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: So um, when you look at at having the stable 373 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: of those two conferences, I would argue it's been as 374 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: big for us in our community because those those fans 375 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: are are here working in our in our companies and 376 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: eating our restaurants throughout the year, and then they get 377 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: their buddies to come in come game time and it 378 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: really becomes a great celebration at college football. It's amazing 379 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: when you start thinking back to the LSU Texas Tech matchup, 380 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: which was I think after the tent because on the 381 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: Texas Tech side, you had Patrick Mahomes, you had Kiki 382 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: qt yep, you had DeAndre Washington. You ended up going 383 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: to the Raiders. I believe the Raiders. Uh, you had 384 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: Dakota Allen, who's a young guy who's gonna get drafted, 385 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: who ended up having to go last chance you and 386 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: come back. And as an incredible story. On the LSU side, 387 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: you had Ard and Key yep, you had Jamal Adams, 388 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: you had Leonard Fournette, you had DJ Chark. I mean, 389 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: from a ballgame standpoint, that's that's an amazing list of 390 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: how to having a game. And then this year, unfortunately 391 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurd was not able to play for Baylor, which 392 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: was really unfortunate because I think he's got a really 393 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: good future NFL. But Vanderbilt's got a corner by the 394 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: name of Joan Williams, and he's got an opportunity. At 395 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: six to four and two hundred and ten pounds, he 396 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: plays corner, couldn't move the safety given his speed and everything. 397 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: But you're talking about a guy that's got every opportunity 398 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: to be a you know, a middle day two pick, 399 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: around two pick in this NFL draft. So uh, and 400 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: this year's game Baylor and Vanderbilt, I know when it 401 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: was announced, I know people were like Vanderbilt Baylor. Really 402 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: it was the best ball game of them all, really, 403 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 1: you weren't the only one to say that. I mean, 404 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: it really was the best ball game of all of them. 405 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean it was highly entertaining on both sides. I 406 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: mean it was really fun to watch. Yeah, anytime you 407 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: have forty five thirty eight, that's generally going to be 408 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: an entertaining game. And the way that that unfolded with 409 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: with Vanderbilt and having huge plays throughout the game. You know, 410 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: if you would have said, and again you know, you 411 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: weren't alone in saying that was one of the best games. 412 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Most of the outlets around they put it as the 413 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: or one of the best UM, which just added to 414 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: the history that we've had here. But if you would 415 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: have told me that Derek Mason's defense would have given up, 416 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: would have gotten thirty eight points, Yeah, there's no way. 417 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: There's no way. No matter who they were playing, I 418 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: would think that they were UM, that they were gonna 419 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: be UM losing that game. So it really is fun 420 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: and every year the talent continues to rise in those 421 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: postseason games. You know, there has certainly been a lot 422 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: of talk about UM about about players that have not 423 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: participated in Bowls, but we've been fortunate and I think 424 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: UM We're going to continue to be because that that 425 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: is a stage that most the vast majority of players 426 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: get get get to use to build their story heading 427 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: into a very important time in their lives with graduation, 428 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: combine and draft. So, UM, you know, we we we're 429 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: excited about what we've been able to build. We've got 430 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: a long term relationship with these conferences, um, and it's 431 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: only going to get better from here as we continue 432 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: to to move forward as an elite conference, i'd say 433 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: elite market for college football. Coming up in September, we've 434 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: got a weekend that I think is and you You've 435 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: said this, and I'm like, Okay, sometimes I think, all right, 436 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: Fletch is on point with this one. You called it 437 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: the greatest college football weekend in the history of Houston. 438 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: I think about him, like, you know, I think this 439 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: is right. I think this is dead. On On Friday night, 440 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: September thirteenth, you've got Washington State and the fighting Mike 441 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: Leach is coming to take on his former pupil, Daniel 442 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Holgerson University Houston. And then the next afternoon you've got 443 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: the University of Texas taking out Rice University in back 444 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: to back nights and there might be a Texas game 445 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: after that Sunday, although I think we're working hard with 446 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: the NFL to try and make that not happen because 447 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: that would be way crazy. But if that did happen, 448 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: if you got Texans v. Question Mark on Sunday, it's 449 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: without a doubt the greatest weekend in football. And used 450 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: to have those three back to back to back, but 451 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: we do know that we've got those two college games 452 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: back to back. We talked about Washington State in Houston 453 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: would happened, Fletch, But to have those two games back 454 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: to back on a weekend here in Houston is a 455 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: huge feather in your cap. What kind of challenges does 456 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: that present? But all the flip side, what do you 457 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: gain in having those two games together? Yeah, I mean, 458 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's an understatement to say 459 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: it is the biggest weekend at least at n RG. Ever, 460 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: I mean from a college football perspective, You've got what 461 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: will likely be two top ten teams in Texas in 462 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: Washington State. Yeah, You've got the two hometown universities. You've 463 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: got the excitement around Dana Holgerson in what it will 464 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: be his first opportunity on the biggest of stages here 465 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: in Houston, going against his his former or his mentor 466 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: and his former colleague, great friend, Mike Leach. You've got 467 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: Mike Leach coming back to Texas. That always that you 468 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: sold me stopped Mike Leach and I love Dana, I 469 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: love Dana. You got Mike Leach. You got Mike Leach. 470 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: And then and then you turned us to to Saturday. Uh, 471 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: and you get University of Texas. The Longhorns will be 472 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: coming off of a big game in Austin against LSU. 473 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: The week before they win that game, their their their 474 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: track is set for what could be a special season. 475 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: And look, Rice University is coming off of a down year. 476 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: But coach bloom grin his second year, UM got the 477 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: recruits that he wanted. UM this past offseason, He's got 478 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: another year with the with the guys in his system, 479 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: and what he's building over there from from a long 480 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: term perspective is is something that UM, you know, we 481 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: saw for years with coach Bailiff. UM. I think Mike 482 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: is the kind of guy that can absolutely build that 483 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: out in the long run. There's no doubt. It's tough 484 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: sledding to go against the University of Texas when you're Rice, 485 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: when you're where Rice has been. But UM, I think 486 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: it adds up for what will be a really exciting 487 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: weekend too, hopefully at two night games. We know this 488 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: Friday night game for sure is gonna be the seven 489 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: o'clock on ESPN. We're hoping and thinking that, um that 490 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: Saturday night game will be a primetime as well. And 491 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: UH and for college football fans, they don't getting bet 492 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: any better than that, especially here in Houston. So you've 493 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: got great opportunities advocare Texas Kickoff if you want to 494 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: check it out right now. We've got some really we've 495 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: got some really incredible offers to get people in right now. 496 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: And so I go to that site right now. Tickets 497 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: just went on sale for those as well as um 498 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: a special offer with the Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas 499 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: Bowl UH later in December. I mean, if you look 500 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: at the college football landscape in Houston, you've got those 501 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: three games that we've talked about here already, and don't 502 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: forget the biggest FCS game in the country, Battle of 503 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: Piney Woods presented by HB Sam Houston State Stephen F. 504 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: Austin tenth Anniversary of that game coming to NRG Stadium 505 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: this year, ninety fourth overall. I mean, if you're a 506 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: college football fan, you just gotta be chomping at the 507 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: bit when you see the schedule we have this year. 508 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. Flush You's done a great 509 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: job putting that all together. Looking forward to doing that. 510 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: Advocare Texas Kickoff dot com. Advocare Texas Kickoff dot com. 511 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: That's where you get your tickets for Uston State in Houston. 512 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: Go do that, get that taken care of a lot 513 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: of great packages. You can be a great family event. Man, 514 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: it would be absolutely fantastic. Fletch, great job. Thank you, 515 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: my friend, and we'll talk to you. We're gonna be 516 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: talking to you more often this office. You have plenty 517 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: of stuff with Elus to see coming up. We got 518 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: a big, big year ahead with Lone Star Sports and 519 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: Entertainment in addition to what will be a big big 520 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: year for our Houston Texans. So I always appreciate what 521 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: you do and the opportunity to join you each and 522 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: every chance we get. Thank you. I'm next, it's my 523 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: good friend Jude Dorty's gonna stop by for gut reaction. 524 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: What's been happening in the NFL. What happened today? Will 525 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: we project to happen in a few days. We'll do 526 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: that X right here in Texas Access, so everybody will 527 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: find a segment of Texas All Access from the Honday 528 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harrison. I'm joined 529 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: a good friend Abrosa, as he says about me my 530 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: in Lab pot though, which you hear on your iTunes 531 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: podcasts in Lab you also here Wednesday nights because I 532 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: play a snippet of it. Budd JR. Dorty, what's up? 533 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: What's going on? Dude? A lot going on, a lot 534 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: going on? Day rip Jan Michael Vincent from Airwolf. WHOA, Yeah, 535 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: I didn't hear that one. Dan Jenkins that he well, 536 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: that was I mean, what a great writer, A great 537 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: writer college football golf, I mean he was. He was phenomenal, 538 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: really really good. All right. Brought you on obviously to 539 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: give out our ips, you know, But I do a 540 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: thing with Mark I called gut Reaction. Mark's pretty good 541 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: at It also gives Mark kind of the opportunity to 542 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: just kind of vent on things, which he seemingly likes 543 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: to do. So I'm gonna hit you with a comment 544 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: headline something that's happened, and I'm just getting your gut 545 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: reaction to it. You can expand on it. If you 546 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: said all you wanted to in two or three words, 547 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: we can move on. But it's called gut reaction. You're ready, 548 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: I'm ready, Okay. ESPN dot Com as an article our 549 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: good friend Sarah bar bar shop titled resigning Tyrann Matthew 550 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: and Kareem Jackson a priority for the Texans. Dr Doherty, 551 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: what is your gut reaction to that? Yes, it is, 552 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: but they're not both gonna be back now. I think 553 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna see Matthew back. I think Kareem probably not 554 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: gonna be around. I mean he's already I think in 555 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: his mind he's already determined that he's not coming back. 556 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: I think I think the Texans would like them both. 557 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: But she just you know, economics, you can't. Yeah, business 558 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: of football. Yeah. Um. That being said, I think Matthew's 559 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: a likelier one. I would not be surprised if we 560 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: don't see either back, though, that's my that's my gut, 561 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: your gut. Yeah, would not be surprised we don't see 562 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: either back. But if if one's back. It's Matthew and 563 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: I think that's that'd be fun. I'm cool with I 564 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: wish both could come back. I was I was there 565 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: at the airport when Kareem flew in the morning after 566 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: the Texans drafted him in the first round, and nobody 567 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: really the only person in the run up to all 568 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: that publicly that said the Texans would draft him. The 569 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: only person that called that, Spencer Tillman, only guy in 570 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: the mock drafts that had the Texans taken Kareem Jackson. Yeah, 571 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: that sec tie. Yeah, that's uh, that's interesting. I didn't know, 572 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: but that I didn't see him. I didn't see Kareem happening. Yeah, 573 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think a dB. In fact, I thought Devin mccordy. 574 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: That's the one that I was thinking, because you lost 575 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Dante Robinson dog at Corners, got to replace him. And yeah, 576 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: mccordy was a popular name. Kyle Wilson from Boise, Yeah, 577 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: that was the other one. Kyle Wilson and Devin mccordy, 578 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: and obviously Devin mccordy and Cream Jackson have had much 579 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: longer careers than Kyle Wilson. Uh. But yeah, look, I 580 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: think a lot of people had to have had a 581 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: hard time in some sense because you know, first impression 582 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: for them couldn't change the impression. I mean, a lot 583 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: of people just couldn't come around on the fact that 584 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: Kareem was a really good player for this organization, even 585 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: though he struggled in twenty ten. Okay, at about ten 586 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: o'clock last night, Antonio Brown was to be a Buffalo bill. 587 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: Wake up this morning, I'm seeing tweets. Oh no, the 588 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: trade has fallen through. I was asleep that whole time 589 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: because I've been taking these pretty powerful prescription jokes from 590 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: my doubt. So they knocked me out about Oh man, 591 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's bad. Yeah, yeah, that's bad. Um, Antonio 592 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: Brown almost a bill, but he's still a stealer. So 593 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: this thing continues on, even though today was the deadline, 594 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: at least self imposed deadline for Antonio Brown. Her thoughts 595 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: about Antonio Brown almost being a bill a Buffalo bill, 596 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: your gut reaction, gut reaction. First thing I think is 597 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: it's a little harder to trade that great a player 598 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: than uh than I think some people think it's a 599 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: little I mean, that's it's just you have got to 600 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: get a whole hell of a lot in return for yes, 601 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: if you're gonna if you're gonna let him go, because 602 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see it's gonna be trade or 603 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: he's sticking around, meaning he doesn't play for them next year, 604 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: or he plays for them, he's they're not cutting him, 605 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: They're not. You can't cut that guy. You're gonna lose 606 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: way too much if you do, both in terms of 607 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: money and in terms of a great player, but getting 608 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: what you want back and him agreeing to go wherever 609 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna go. I think is uh is a lot 610 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: tougher than what you imagine. Now, Ultimately, I think he 611 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: is gonna get traded, but it's gonna have to. I mean, 612 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be a side that both got 613 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: a deal that both sides agree on. And what have 614 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: they agreed on right now, right up to this point. Yeah, 615 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: And I mean that there's so many teams that have 616 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: been kind of well, we'll dip our toe in the water. 617 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: Who knows what they're they're asking for at some point. 618 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: And I saw article yesterday Drew talking about the Raiders, 619 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: because the Raiders have been the one team everybody seems 620 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: to think, Okay, it's gonna happen. You know, Gruden likes 621 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: his veterans and all that kind of stuff. And then 622 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: you step back at this article did a really nice job, 623 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: and I can't remember who wrote it, but it was 624 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: somebody from I think maybe in like Sentator's Mercury News. 625 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: He talked about it said, look, Gruden ended up trading 626 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, he ended up moving on from some veterans 627 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: last year, and they did all of that so that 628 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: they could build a foundation for the future. Now going 629 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: out and trading one of those first round picks for 630 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, isn't staying along the course. Yeah, And then 631 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: one other thing they brought up I thought was interesting 632 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: was what's the impact of Mike Mayock? Is the GM 633 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: on Gruden in that situation is what does he have 634 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: to say about it? So it's it's a tricky position 635 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: because he's thirty one years old. You start to think, Okay, 636 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: does he still have another couple of years at that 637 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: level if he's not with Ben Roethlisberger. And I know 638 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: there have been a couple couple of people out on 639 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: Twitter in particular that I've said he's gone back to 640 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: the Steers. I've said along I just can't see how 641 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: the Steelers do not want some sort of competent as 642 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm with you, I don't think there's any way he 643 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: just gets flat out released. Yeah, because there's too much 644 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: on the line. I mean, they've got they're looking at 645 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: a twenty one million dollars cap hit, So you're gonna 646 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: take a twenty one million dollar cap hit roughly around 647 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: that number and not get anything back and return in 648 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: that And if you're the Raiders, the Raiders, you see, 649 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: you understand like why people say, oh, well, Raiders have 650 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: three first rounders, why not just part with one of them? Well, 651 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: suppose you hit on all three first rounders and get 652 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: really good players. You've got three dudes that potentially you 653 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: won't have to pay that much. And there's the there's 654 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: the possibility that Antonio Brown being thirty one, he doesn't 655 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: his career ends before you even have to pay any 656 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: of those other three guys. In theory, you could you 657 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: got all that time with them. I mean, yeah, I 658 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: could see why they don't. They don't want to pull 659 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: the trigger coming up to Vegas. I mean, and the 660 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: twenty one you know, all the all the money in 661 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: the correct point and think about it. They've got with 662 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: those first rounders, you've got the fifth year option. Ye Now, 663 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: things could ultimately change with the new CBA, but that's 664 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: not for a couple of years. So these guys, I 665 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: imagine are going to stay in the current CBA. So 666 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,959 Speaker 1: they've got them on our team control for five years, 667 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: so that's fifteen years. You get total with three players, 668 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: and if you hit on them, you've got them for 669 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: that long. So it's a very it's a very interesting point, 670 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: drew The Denver Broncos, after trading earlier this year for 671 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, seemingly made Case keenum expendable. At that point, 672 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: would he stay as a backup? They're paying him a 673 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: lot of money. Well, yesterday they agreed with the Washington 674 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: Redskins to send Case and they're splitting the money they're 675 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: gonna pay Case. So essentially the Redskins are paying about 676 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: three and a half million dollars in this trade. A 677 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: sixth rounder will go to Denver, a seventh rounder, and 678 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: Case will go to Washington. Washington gets a quarterback in 679 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: Case Keenham. With Colt McCoy Alex Smith on the roster, 680 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna see him in twenty nineteen, Case 681 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: Keenham traded through Washington Redskins. Your gut reaction to that 682 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: was good for the Redskins. I mean, I think Case 683 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: can do some nice things. We've seen We've seen Gruden's 684 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks do all right. I mean Alex Smiths people forget 685 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: and people kind of knocked the Texans and say they 686 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: played this easy schedule last year. Well, the Redskins wound 687 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: up having a bad year. But when the Texans were 688 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: in Washington, which was the week before Thanksgiving, the Redskins 689 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: were in first place. Yeah, they were three games over 690 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: five hundred, and they were They dominated Alex Smith and 691 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: they they made hit him look bad in that game 692 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: and then before he got hurt, I'm saying before he 693 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: got her and then they they you know, they hit 694 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: the unfortunate injury. But go to that game. That was 695 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: a pretty good Redskins team and you beat him up. Now, 696 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: what happened three years prior to that, Cousins played pretty 697 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: darn well there, So what happened what happened two years 698 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: ago with Case Keenum played pretty well and took the 699 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: Vikings to the Final four. Now had a lot of help, 700 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: had a lot of great players around him. But who's 701 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: to say that Case in that system can't With Darius Geiss, 702 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: by the way, coming back, who I think that guy 703 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be before the injury. I thought he was 704 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. Who's to say that they can't play really, 705 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: really well. You have a run game, you have a 706 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: dynamic back there. That was my gut reaction was like, 707 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: that's a good situation for Case. I think, yeah, I 708 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: Washington's in a in a tough spot in some sense 709 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: because of the Alex Smith situation, obviously him not being 710 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: able to play in twenty nineteen. They're on the hook 711 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: for sixteen and a half million to him, and they 712 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: gotta find somebody that can help them win games. I'm 713 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: not totally sure that's Colt right, but I do think 714 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: Case can win some games for you. And I think 715 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: the NFC East got better last year. But still it's 716 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: not you know, the the Eagles. You know what happens 717 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: to them. You know they don't have foals anymore. So 718 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: some happens with Carson Wentz s it's Nate Sudfeld. Bennett's 719 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: crying a little bit about money, and well he come back. 720 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: So I think the Eagles will still be good. I 721 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys have taken a step. They were still 722 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: gonna be tough. But I still think the Redskins are 723 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: with Case, have an opportunity to all. He's beat in 724 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: that thing for a while. But you're gonna mess with 725 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: some people when you have when you have him around. Yeah. 726 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: The thing about Washington though, the one thing that I 727 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: noticed while we were there, they don't have any weapons 728 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: on the outside. That's I think the one thing. Now. 729 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: Your boy from from SMU, Trey Quinn. I think he's 730 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: a good He's a nice slot receiver. He did a 731 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: good job against us. They could actually move him to 732 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: the outside and be okay. He runs four three eight. 733 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: He can run, and you got Jameson Crowder. But I 734 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: don't know how long Crowder stays around. But you gotta 735 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: give Case some weapons to throw to him. He's got 736 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Reads at a tight end, but he's got to 737 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: stay healthy. For the record, My boy from SMU is 738 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: Don Meredith. Okay, another rest in pieces Cole Beasley also, 739 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: uh yeah, he's good. He's after me. Also, Josh McCown, 740 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: he was he's a contemporary, that's true. V Sam Houston 741 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: State Yeah, you still claim I won't do my rant 742 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: right now? You won't do that. Uh, that's a rant 743 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: supporting Joshua Cleveland. Browns have traded Kevin Zeitler guard to 744 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: the Giants for pass rusher Olivier Vernon. This really isn't 745 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: about those two players. But we don't see this a 746 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: lot in the NFL. Drew's Player for Players Trades. What's 747 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: your gut reaction player for player of Trades. Man, they 748 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: must like him, I'm okay with it. They must be 749 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: the Cleveland must be very confident in the guy that 750 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: bringing up I can't remember the name, but the guy 751 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: that plays Zeiler Corbett Corbett, Ye, because Ziler was when 752 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: he was coming out of in the draft, was a 753 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: guy that a lot of people had peg coming here. Yeah, 754 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: and I liked him. You know, he's one of those 755 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: Wisconsin lyman. So um good for the Giants Gee whiz 756 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: they needed help up front, Yeah, no doubt that's so. 757 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: That's good for them and Browns adding some more weapons. Man, 758 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: looks like they can get some help there. Olivier gets 759 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: back to what he was and the end of it 760 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: in Miami. He they got an opportunity with him and 761 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett coming off the edge, Steve Wilkes defense two 762 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: four three. You know Greg, Greg Williams no longer there, 763 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: he's gone to the Jets, But my goodness, yeah, you 764 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 1: throw him in the mix. You still got a manua agba. 765 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: You just I looked at it as strengthening, as strength 766 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: from that perspective, and you knew you had Corbett sitting 767 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: in the wings, and Zieler was a signing from the 768 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: previous staff or the previous regime in the front office. 769 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: Corbett was drafted by this front office. They want to 770 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: see what they've gotten Austin Corbett, So you go with that. 771 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't too surprised by that. The player for player trade, 772 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: I like, I like player for the player trum. Yeah, 773 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: I think it's really cool, especially when you cross positions. 774 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: It's like right guard for pass rusher, right to kind 775 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: of show. Yeah, they're a different value. But Zeitler is 776 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: such a good guard. That's the only way you're giving 777 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: up a pass rusher and get him. And I know, 778 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you got asked this and have been asked 779 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: this a lot on the cooler talks that we do, 780 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: because I know in the deer Drew mail Bags and 781 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: I get every week somebody's asking, what do you think 782 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: you think the Texts are gonna pull off a trade 783 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: before the deadline? And they're not always talking about uh, 784 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: I say, before the deadline, before the draft. You're not 785 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: always asking about draft pick trades or they're asking about 786 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: player for player of trades. And it's it's a question 787 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: that is a good one. I mean, it's it's kind 788 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: of out there and not as common, but yeah, it 789 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean, the Texans need help off offensive 790 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: line wise, they want to get better in the secondary. 791 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: Hey have you thought about doing this? I get that 792 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: question yea almost every week, if not every other week, 793 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: for sure. To you one I got I'll get your 794 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: gut reaction on this. I got this this morning and 795 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: I was on on sport Trade of six ten. They 796 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: said if the Texans, if the Texans went out and 797 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: say they were able to get Trent Brown and free 798 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: agency left tackle. So they were able to get Trent Brown, 799 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: and they were able to sign a couple of mid 800 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: level corners, maybe not the top end because it really 801 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: on a ton of top corners in this free agency thing. 802 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: Maybe you signed Pierre to see her and maybe you 803 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: sign one other one, but you get a couple of 804 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: corners to go with John Joseph and Jermain Kelly, and 805 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: you're sitting there with a pick number twenty three, what 806 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: would you do with it? Still take if some if 807 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: there's just a freak, here's all that slips got the 808 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: freak can't say any position. I think you're I think 809 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: you're right. Gut reaction to this, I said, well, if 810 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: you aren't able to bring back Brandon Done, Angelo Blackson, 811 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: Christian Cummington or any combination of those, I think one 812 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: of them. I think one of those. But is that enough, 813 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: because now you've got Watkins reader in one of those guys, 814 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: I think you signed two of them. Then maybe this 815 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: is moot. But I said, if you're not able to 816 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: bring those guys back, I said, you really need an 817 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: interior pass rusher. You really need a guy that gets 818 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: after it. A lot of them in the draft. The 819 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: guy that I said was Jerry Hillory from Notre Dame. 820 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: Now he's having shoulder surgery. But I think which means 821 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: you might be able to get him in the second round. 822 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: But maybe that fifty four fifty five, But it depends 823 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: on how teams look at him. He should be ready 824 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: to go by training camp. But I said Jerry Hillory 825 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: from Notre Dame, a guy like that, they can get 826 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: up the field. Very interesting guy too. But I just 827 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: think interior pass rusher. Look, we've got the guys in 828 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: the outside, and it's like, well, you can't get greedy. 829 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, well why not, Eagles can? The Eagles last 830 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: year put four guys on the field that are Pro 831 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: bowlers with Michael Bennett and Chris Long on the outside 832 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: and Fuch your Cox and Brandon Graham on the inside. 833 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: If you're not gonna ball loose and you're harassing the quarterback, yeah, 834 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: your coverage is gonna look a lot better. Your cornerbacks 835 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: are gonna look look a lot better. You're gonna get 836 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: the ball back, yeah, And you're gonna be able to 837 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: run the ball more. You're gonna be able to protect 838 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: your quarterback. Your offensive line's gonna get better. I'm fine with. 839 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, is there any any any 840 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,959 Speaker 1: chance at all that Ed Oliver slips that I've thought about? 841 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: Could you even I mean, if he's at twenty three, 842 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: how do you justify not taking him, especially if you're 843 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: not able to bring back a bunch of guys on 844 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: the indie. I mean, it's tough even if you are 845 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: able to know, can you I've thought about that. I 846 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: thought about that flying home from Houston, Indian thought about that. 847 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: What what do we say all the time about about 848 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell's defense, It's it's guy. You got guys that 849 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: are flexible, that can move around. What does that Oliver 850 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: do and what does it look like he can do? 851 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: That's what he's doing around? And what did I mean 852 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: he's think about it. I don't think he gets that far. 853 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 1: But I don't think so were It's an interesting decision 854 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: by oh my good and that's an elite guy, elite 855 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: talent that. Yeah, I don't think he's gonna. He's not gonna. 856 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: There's no way he falls appreciate it. Drew thing anytime, dude. 857 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: That's the show, folks. A big thanks to Carl Smith, 858 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 1: to Mark Vanimer, to David Fletcher, to Drew Doherty, to 859 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: all of you for listen. We'll be back on Monday 860 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: as free agency period comes near. Thank you so much 861 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: for listening. There's always go Texans