1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: It's Verdict with Center Ted Cruz. Week in Review, Ben 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Ferguson with you, and these are the stories that you 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: may have missed that we talked about this week. First up, 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: shocking funding for the United Nations going directly to Terris 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: that we're attacking Israel. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: We'll have all the details on that. 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Plus, many Americans are very angry over massive funding still 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: being forced down our throats to go to Ukraine. So 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: what's behind this funding and why are they getting so 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: much cash? And finally, could there be a unanimous decision 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: from the Supreme Court over the Colorado case against Donald J. 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Trump. 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: It's the Week in Review and it starts right now. 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: So let's follow the money here. If UNDRA is getting 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: funds from the United Nations, and we're the biggest donor 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: to the United Nations, we're giving money and it's being 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: funneled to those that are helping carry out terrorist attacks 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: as well as protecting terraces and the planning and the 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: rockets that are being shot into Israel for for years now, 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: while they've been in the same building. 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: Now, that's exactly right. As The Times of Israel reported, 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: unro's Gaza headquarters is located in Gaza City's upscale Remand neighborhood, 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: an area that the Israeli the IDF had previously operated 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: in and dismantled the local Hamas battalion and withdrawn its 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: troops from And here's a quote from Colonel Benny Aharon 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: from the IDF, who says, quote the IDF was here previously. 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: The first time was to destroy the enemy. But when 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: we were here the last time, we collected a lot 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: of intelligence documents and findings, a lot of prisoners, and 31 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: thanks to this we reached here. Now we carried carried 32 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: out a targeted operation to take the capability away. We 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: had a basis of information, but not enough to be 34 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: able to dig down twenty meters to find it. Twenty 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: meters is about sixty feet. We needed a bit more. 36 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: There's information we get from prisoners, we capture from computers, 37 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: we find from documents, maps, and they went down and 38 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: discovered this terror tunnel. Hazan, who is tasked with coordinating 39 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: the brigade's underground operation, said the main entrance to the 40 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: tunnel was located under an Unrau school in the area. 41 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: Wo and this look the un you want to talk 42 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: about Number one the UN has always been just a 43 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: pit of anti Semitism, anti Israel hatred. But they have 44 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: funneled billions of dollars to UNRA, which in turn is 45 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: supporting terrorists and supporting him and employing people who participated 46 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: in the October seventh terror attack. 47 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: What will America's response be to this, as the Biden 48 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 2: administration said anything? And are there anyone in his administration 49 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: or the UN ambassador asking questions saying what the hell 50 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: is going on at the United Nations Relief and Work 51 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: Agency that's been knowingly, as you described it, providing support 52 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: Tomas terrorists who committed these atrocies against over one thousand 53 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: Israelies and dozens of Americans as well, which I think 54 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: has been overlooked as well by this administration. 55 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: Yes, so sadly, the Biden administration from day one has 56 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: been funneling money into Gaza. Look early on in the 57 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: Biden administration, I led a group of seventeen senators saying 58 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: do not give money to Gaza, because if you give 59 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: money to Gaza, that will flow directly to Hamas and 60 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: be used for terrorist activities. At the time I sent 61 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: that letter, there were one hundred and fifty House Democrats 62 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: who sent a letter to the administration saying, please do 63 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: give money to Gaza even though it will likely be 64 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: used by Hamas for terrorism. We now know because it's 65 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: been publicly reported how the Biden administration resolved that issue. 66 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: The Biden administration concluded that it was quote highly likely 67 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: those are their terms, highly likely that money given to 68 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: Gaza would be used by Hamas for terrorism. Now ordinarily 69 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: been under US anti terrorism law. If it's highly likely 70 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: the money will be used for terrorism, you can't send 71 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: the money. That would be common sense. Well, what the 72 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: Biden administration did instead is they formally waived US anti 73 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 3: terrorism law because their political ideology, they so wanted to 74 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: send the money they didn't care if it would be 75 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: used by Hamas for terrorism. So, in a very real sense, 76 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: Joe Biden the Democrats funded Hamas and the October seventh terror. 77 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: Attack, which goes back back to the bigger question in 78 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: the aid it looks like American aid. We say, hey, 79 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: we're going to send some to Israel, but we're also 80 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: wanting to send aid to Gaza. How do we not 81 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: how do we assure that that money is not going 82 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: to go directly in the hands of the terrorists. 83 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: We can't and it is truly asinine. And in the 84 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: wake of this horrific terror attack, what did Joe Biden 85 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: the Democrats want to do. Let's send more money to Gaza. 86 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: Let's send more money to Gaza. And my view is 87 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: stop sending money to people who want to kill us. 88 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 3: If you cannot assure that the money doesn't go to 89 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: terrorists who want to murder Americans, don't send the money. 90 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: And by the way, this past week, I let a 91 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: group of senators urging the Justice Department to open a 92 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: criminal investigation into a US based nonprofit that raises money 93 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: for UNRA. And it's a group called UNRA USA, which 94 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: is a nonprofit with the self described mission to support 95 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: the quote work of UNRA through fundraising, education, and advocacy 96 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: in the United States. And as I pointed out, here's 97 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: what I wrote in the letter with several other senators. Quote, 98 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: we write to call on you to open a criminal 99 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: investigation into NRA USA, its principles, and its leadership for 100 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: knowingly providing material support to foreign terrorist organizations including hamas. 101 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: This support facilitated and continues to facilitate terrorism, including the 102 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: October seventh terrorist attack in which Palestinian terrorists killed or 103 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: kidnapped dozens of Americans and over one thousand, two hundred Israelis. 104 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 3: According to its twenty twenty one annual report, NRA USA 105 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: dispersed nearly five million dollars in donations to ANRA that year, 106 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: making the organization onnra's largest institutional donor. 107 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: I mean you hear that, and is an American taxpayer. 108 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: It makes me angry to know that basically I'm funding 109 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: the terrorists that took out these attacks, not just on 110 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: the people in Israel. But we still have not, I think, 111 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: gotten a full accounting from this administration on Americans that 112 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: were killed and also taken hostage. 113 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: Now, sadly that's right. And the Biden administration we've talked 114 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: about before when it comes to foreign policy, it is 115 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: all politics all the time, and they set aside US 116 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: national security that they set aside the interest of protecting 117 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: our allies, and they especially set aside the interest of 118 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: protecting American citizens, and it's made the world much more dangerous. 119 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: Sata, I want to ask you another question about just 120 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: the response from this administration when this type of news 121 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: comes out. There seems to be a no re response. 122 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: Are a very timid response. And I worry that's because 123 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: they've known that there's been this level of corruption for 124 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: quite some time. They're just now being faced with it 125 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: in the government. What do we When did they know 126 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: about the corruption with with Andra and and when did 127 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: the warning STEGN start hitting them? 128 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: Was it before this attack or can they play done? 129 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: No, We've known about it a long time, and I 130 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: will say it's bad ding. When I questioned the Biden administration, 131 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: when I questioned the State Department, and I press them, 132 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: why do you keep giving hundreds of millions of dollars 133 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: to Gaza. Gaza is run by Hamas. Hamas is the 134 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: government of Gaza, And people. 135 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: Don't believe you when you say that. 136 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: Just the tunnel system that we've seen since they the 137 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: Israelis have gone in is more than enough proof they. 138 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 3: Can understand the Palestinians. So part of the leftist rhetoric 139 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: they say Gaza is the largest open air prison on earth. 140 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: That's a lie. You know, Gaza is not run by Israel. 141 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: Gaza is run by the Palestinians. Israel left the Gaza Strip, 142 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: So the Gaza Strip is a portion of what used 143 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: to be Israel, and it is on the south west 144 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: portion of Israel, and they just left Israel left and said, 145 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: all right, there's a massive population Palestinians. You guys are 146 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: in charge. You run it. And they had elections in Gaza, 147 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: and the people of the Gaza Strip elected Hamas, which 148 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:36,479 Speaker 3: is which is a terrorist organization. It pledges the destruction 149 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 3: of Israel and the death of Jews. That that is 150 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: in its core mission. That's who the people of the 151 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: Gaza Strip elected. Now understand, over the past decades, billions 152 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: of dollars have flowed into the Gaza Strip in terms 153 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: of relief, both from the United States, from Europe, from 154 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: international agencies, from UNRA, and that money instead of actually 155 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: helping the Gaza Strip, helping the Palestinians, instead of building 156 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: schools and hospitals, instead of building roads, they take massive 157 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: amounts of that money and they turn it directly to terrorism. 158 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: So for example, and I've been to Israel many times 159 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: and when you talk with it, with the Israeli forces, 160 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: they explain money that goes into Gaza, say to build 161 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: water pipes to bring fresh water to people who need it. 162 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: They take the water pipes, they cut it into six 163 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: feet segments and they use those water pipes, they turn 164 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: them into rockets and they fill them with propellant and 165 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: explosive and shrapnel ball bearings and metal that they can 166 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 3: then fire into Israel. And so the result is the 167 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 3: people of Gaza, the Palestinians, get denied relief they desperately need. 168 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: Why because Hamas, who controls it, would rather kill Jews 169 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: than help Palestinians. And every time I am asked the 170 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: Biden administration, okay, how do you make sure the money 171 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: going into Gaza doesn't go to terrorism? Their response, you 172 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: know what, they say, what's that? Oh, we trust UNRA. 173 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: Unra's great. Give it to UNRELL. Be fantastic. And it 174 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: has been evident for a long time that UNRA and 175 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: Hamas are utterly intertwined. A dozen UNRAU employees were actual 176 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: terrorists on October seventh, and yet the Biden administration's position 177 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: is we love UNRA. 178 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: Final question on this, is there a way to actually 179 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: stop the funds going into Gaza going into UNRA. 180 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: And and what Donald Trump did it? Absolutely, you can 181 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: stop it. The reason this money has gone is because 182 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: Joe Biden places a higher priority on his political ideology 183 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 3: than he does on keeping Americans safe, or keeping Israeli safe, 184 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: in our allies safe, and the result is the world's 185 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: a lot more dangerous. 186 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this 187 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: kind conversation, you can go back and listen to the 188 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 2: full podcast from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. Senator, 189 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: there are a lot of Americans that are very angry 190 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: that so many Republicans defected and did this deal with 191 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: Democrats to send more funding to Ukraine than we'll be 192 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: spent to secure our southern border, putting Americans last and 193 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: putting others first around the world. And this money we 194 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: don't have, We're gonna have to borrow this money. We're 195 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: gonna have to pay interest on this money. And it 196 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: seems like there's no in insight for the obsession with 197 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 2: sending money to Ukraine. We're sending more money to them 198 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: than to Israel as well. Why did so many Democrats 199 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: get along so well with so many Republicans on this one? 200 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: How is it that so many Republicans can't just stand 201 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: their ground. 202 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: Well, it's incredibly frustrating. Look, you and I are recording this. 203 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: It is ten oh seven pm Texas time on Tuesday night. 204 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: I started this day this morning at a little after 205 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 3: five am, voting on the Senate floor. And the reason 206 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: we were voting at five am is because Chuck Schumer 207 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 3: had kept the Senate in all night in order to 208 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 3: try to force this vote through, and he succeeded. The 209 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: vote was seventy to twenty nine. In other words, seventy 210 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: Senators voted yes, twenty nine voted no. All the Democrats 211 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: except three voted for the funding bill, and yet there 212 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: were just twenty nine of us. 213 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 4: I was a no. 214 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: There were twenty nine of us, and that was twenty 215 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: six Republicans and three Democrats who voted no. And listen, 216 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: my reasons for voting no. We've talked about at length, 217 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: but it's worth revisiting. There are elements of this bill 218 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 3: that I support. There are even elements of this bill 219 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: that I strongly support. So for example, this bill includes 220 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: emergency military funding for Israel. I think that is incredible important. 221 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: I think we should have passed that months ago. This 222 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 3: bill includes funding to help Taiwan defend itself against communist China. 223 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: I think that is very important for US national security. 224 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: And then, most notably, this bill contains tens of billions 225 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: of dollars of funding for Ukraine. Now, my views on 226 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: that are mixed. I think it is very important that 227 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: Russia lose and Putin loses, and there are certainly circumstances 228 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: in which I would be willing to support military funding 229 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: for Ukraine to stop Russia, because I think that's in 230 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: the United States's interest. However, just a couple of months ago, 231 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: every single Republican in the Senate we stood united, and 232 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: we made a united stand. We said we will not 233 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: fund additional money for Ukraine unless and until we secure 234 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: our own border. That we're not going to spend billions 235 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: to secure the border of another name until America secures 236 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: our border. And we're not going to spend billions to 237 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: stop the invasion of another country until we stopped the 238 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: invasion of our own country. Now, when I said that, 239 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: I meant it. Unfortunately, I think for a lot of 240 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: my colleagues they did not, because, as you know, what 241 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: happened was Chuck Schumer and the Democrats refused to negotiate 242 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: and agree to meaningful border security. Instead, they demanded a 243 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: bill that in many ways would have made the border 244 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: crisis worse, would have codified Joe Biden's open borders, and 245 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: when as soon as the bill TECHS was released, they 246 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: negotiated in secret. Within twenty four hours, the bill had 247 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: collapse because everyone reading it realized it was a terrible bill. 248 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: What Republican leadership did next, I think was indefensible. They said, Okay, 249 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: well a few people don't like Chuck Chuck Schumer's open 250 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 3: border proposal, then never mind, will'll just pass all the 251 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: funding with nothing on the border at all. I think 252 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: that is an absurd position. But unfortunately seventy senators just 253 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: cast a vote that way. 254 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: So what happens now, because what we're hearing is that 255 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: this could move the House side Speaker Johnson has indicated 256 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: no or probably not, this isn't going to happen. And 257 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: then now Democrats apparently, oh Kim Jeffreys is saying, all right, 258 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: well they're going to get together and they're going to 259 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: get a game planned or basically ram this down everyone's throat. 260 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: What would that look like and what does that mean 261 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: moving forward? On top of the fact that the House 262 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: majority for Republicans just got slimmer as well tonight because 263 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: we've lost a special election. 264 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: Well that's exactly right. Look, if it is up to 265 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: House leadership, if it's up to the Speaker of the House. 266 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: This bill will not pass. The Speaker has said so 267 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: unequivocally that the House is not going to take up 268 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: and pass any military funding for Ukraine unlessen until it 269 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: contains serious and meaningful border security. And by the way, 270 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: the House has already passed strong border security legislation, that 271 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 3: is HR two. The House passed that months ago. Chuck 272 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: Schumer refused to take it up. I introduced HR two 273 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: in the Senate. I'm the author of HR two in 274 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: the United States Senate. I had it as an amendment 275 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: to this bill. And by the way, I was clear, 276 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: I said, you know what, if we pass HR two, 277 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 3: I'll vote for this bill. If we pass strong legislation 278 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: that forces Joe Biden to secure the border, I'm on board. 279 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: And Schumer said, not just no, but hell no. Refused 280 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: to allow a vote on HR two. When we were 281 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 3: voting this morning, I was trying very hard to get 282 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: a vote. Schumer locked down and blocked every single amendment vote. 283 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 3: What I expect Republican leadership in the House to do 284 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: is to take up this bill and to attach strong 285 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: border security to it and then send it back to 286 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: the Senate. That's what I think is likely to happen. 287 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 3: There is a chance, and you referenced it. There's some 288 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: Democrats talking about trying to do what's called a discharge petition, 289 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: which is all the House Democrats teaming up with a 290 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 3: handful of hawkish Republicans to basically overrule the Speaker of 291 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: the House and force the bill onto the floor. I 292 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: don't think that will happen, and it is the sort 293 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: of move that would be just absolute rebellion by the 294 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: rank and file Republican members. And but that is really 295 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 3: what Mitch mcconnlin Chuck Schumer's plan is, is to try 296 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: to use this bill to directly attack the Republican Speaker 297 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: of the House. And I got to say, Ben, I 298 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: don't understand why Senate Republican leadership is trying to lead 299 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 3: the attack on House Republican leadership. 300 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: Well, one final question this what was in it for 301 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: Republicans that just caved on this? I mean, I know, 302 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: and I'm cynical because I've been around it probably too long, 303 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 2: and you're probably you see it every day, so you're 304 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: cynical too. I'm like, all right, so what did you 305 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: get like to make you not listen to the American 306 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: people and just go along with this. What was the 307 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: incentive there to side with the Democrats. 308 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: So so let me be a little more forgiving in 309 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: this sense. You know, there are folks that said, what 310 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: did they get? They're compromised. Look, in my experience, that's 311 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 3: not how Washington works. I don't think there's anybody with 312 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: a folder of people having, you know, sexual relations with 313 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: barnyard animals. And I don't think this is compromant. I 314 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: don't think it's And I also don't think for the 315 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: people who voted for this that what did they get? 316 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: I don't think that they're like the Biden family in 317 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: terms of making millions of dollars off of this. I 318 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: don't think that's why it happened. At least among the Republicans. 319 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: I think a great many of them passionately believe that 320 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: it is in America's interest for you Ukraine to beat Russia. 321 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 3: And I understand that sentiment. I think Russia's winning this 322 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: war would be very, very bad for America and over 323 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: the long term, would be much more expensive for American 324 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: taxpayers than it would be to defeat Russia and Ukraine. 325 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: So want I want Russia to lose and I think 326 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 3: it's combined with there are a lot of Republican senators 327 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: that basically they don't like a fight, and in any 328 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: given fight, when you ask them, all right, let's hold 329 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: the line and say we won't do this unless we 330 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 3: get real border security, they look at you and say, well, 331 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer would never do that. And I don't understand 332 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 3: why they expect Chuck Schumer to stand strong and never blink, 333 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: and yet their solution is always, well, therefore, we got 334 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: to give Schumer what he wants. But that's temperamentally the 335 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 3: view of far too many Republicans in Congress. 336 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: As before, If you want to hear the rest of 337 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go go back 338 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 2: and now the podcast from earlier this week to hear 339 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 2: the entire thing. I want to get back to the 340 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: big story number three of the week. 341 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: You may have missed. 342 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: It's amazing that Colorado took it this far because to me, 343 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: this seems like there's a decent chance this could be 344 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: exactly what you thought. It could be a unanimous decision 345 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: or even an eight to one. 346 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: Well, and to underscore that, so we played obviously Justice 347 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: Thomas and Justice Gorsich are conservatives. But let's listen now 348 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: to Justice Elena Kagan, and remember what I said at 349 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: the outset, which is that I believe this had a 350 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: very good chance of being unanimous. I think the Chief 351 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: Justice desperately wants it to be unanimous, and I think 352 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: the way it gets to be unanimous, in particular, is 353 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: the Chief Justice goes to Elena Kagan, who I think 354 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 3: is the smartest of the liberal justices. She was the 355 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: former dean of the Harvard Law School, she was former 356 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 3: Solicitor General of the United States. 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Take 396 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 2: a listen to this very interesting back and forth between 397 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: Justice Kagan and the Colorado lawyer Jason Murray. 398 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 4: Justice Kavanaugh, there has to be some process for determining 399 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 4: those questions, and then the question becomes does anything in 400 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 4: the fourteenth Amendment say that only Congress can create that process? 401 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 4: And Section five very clearly is not an exclusive provision. 402 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: It says Congress shall have power. 403 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 5: It maybe put most boldly, I think that the question 404 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 5: that you have to confront is why a single state 405 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 5: should decide who gets to be president of the United States. 406 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 5: In other words, you know, this question of whether a 407 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 5: former president is disqualified for insurrection to be president again 408 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 5: is just say it. It sounds awfully national to me. 409 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 5: So whatever means there are to enforce it would suggest 410 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 5: that they have to be federal national means, why does 411 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 5: you know if you weren't from Colorado when you were 412 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 5: from Wisconsin or you were from Michigan, And it really, 413 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 5: you know, what the Michigan Secretary of State did is 414 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 5: going to make the difference between whether Candidate A is 415 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 5: elected or Candidate BE is elected. Matt seems quite extraordinary, 416 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 5: doesn't it. 417 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 4: No, your honor, Because ultimately it's this court that's going 418 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: to decide that question of federal constitutional eligibility and settle 419 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 4: the issue for the nation. And certainly it's not unusual 420 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 4: that questions of national importance come up. 421 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: Well, I suppose this Court would be saying something along 422 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 5: the lines of the state has the power to do it. 423 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 5: But I guess I was asking you to go a 424 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 5: little bit further and saying, why should that be the 425 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 5: right rule? Why should a single state have the ability 426 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 5: to make this determination not only for their own citizens, 427 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 5: but for the rest of the nation. 428 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 4: Because Article two gives them the power to appoint their 429 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: own electors as they see fit. But if they're going 430 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 4: to use a federal constitutional qualification as a ballot access determinant, 431 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: then it's creating a federal constitutional question that then this 432 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 4: Court decides and other courts other states. If this Court 433 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 4: affirms the decision below determining that President Trump is ineligible 434 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 4: to be president, other states would still have to determine 435 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 4: what effect that would have on their own states law 436 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: and state procedures. 437 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: Well, I mean we if we affirmed, I mean center, 438 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: even she someone you would expect would be on the 439 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: side of Colorado not really having it either. 440 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 441 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 3: Look, and as I said, I don't think any justices 442 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 3: are going to vote with Colorado. I think we're going 443 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: to see in all likelihood of unanimous decision. And she's 444 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: focusing on you know, earlier we played Katanji Brown Jackson, 445 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: and she was focusing on the fact that that president 446 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: is not an officer that has specified in the fourteenth Amendment, 447 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 3: Section three. Justice Kaiget's po pointing out, well, why does 448 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: one state get to do this? And if one state 449 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 3: gets to do it, couldn't another state do something different? 450 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: What do you do with that? 451 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: And let's let's do one other clip which emphasizes that point. 452 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: And you remember we did an entire podcast talking about 453 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 3: the amicus brief that I filed, and this was an 454 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: argument that I made on behalf of one hundred and 455 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: seventy members of Congress, and I think it's a really 456 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: powerful argument. Let's listen to Justice Alito asking about that argument, 457 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: in particular, Thank you, Thank. 458 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 4: You, Counsel Justice Thomas. 459 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 6: Justice Alito, Suppose there's a country that proclaims again and 460 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 6: again and again that the United States is its biggest enemy. 461 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 6: And suppose that the President of the United States, for 462 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 6: diplomatic reasons, think that it's in the best interests of 463 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 6: the United States to provide funds or release funds so 464 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 6: that they can be used by that country. Could a 465 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 6: state determine that that person has given aid and comfort 466 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 6: to the enemy and therefore keep that person off the ballot. 467 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 4: No, your honor, this Court has never interpreted the aid 468 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 4: and comfort language, which also is present. 469 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 3: So that's another enormous problem with Colorado's argument, which is 470 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 3: that if Colorado is able to throw Donald Trump off 471 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: the ballot, you're going to see other states act. You're 472 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: going to see red states throw Joe Biden off the ballot. 473 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 3: And the hypothetical that Sam Alito asked, it's a very 474 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: good hypothetical. He's obviously talking about Iran, and Iran is 475 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: led by an Iatola who chanced death to America, who 476 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: has murdered hundreds upon hundreds of servicemen and women, American 477 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: servicemen and women, who's the biggest funder of state funder 478 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: of terrorism in the world, And Joe Biden has flowed 479 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: one hundred billion dollars to the IYATOLA. Now, as Justice 480 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: Alito pointed out, Biden argues, it's for diplomatic reasons. But 481 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: under the argument of Colorado, you could some other state 482 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: could say, well, no, we conclude you're giving aid and 483 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: comfort to our enemy. So Joe Biden is off the ballot. 484 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: And the lawyer's answer was just well no, no, no, no, 485 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: that's a different provision. So no, no, we like Joe Biden, 486 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 3: so you can't do that. I think that demonstrates that 487 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: the theory behind this decision is insupportable, and it leads 488 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: to chaos, and it fundamentally leads to judges battling each 489 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: other to decide elections rather than the voters deciding elections. 490 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: And so I'm going to reiterate, I think the chances 491 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: that the US Supreme Court reverses this decision are one 492 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: hundred percent, and I think the chances are significant more 493 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 3: likely than not that the decision will be unanimous and 494 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: I think we will get it this month, the month 495 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: of February. 496 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center 497 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal 498 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcast 499 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each 500 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict afterwards, I'd love to 501 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: have you as a listener to again Ben Ferguson Podcasts, 502 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.