1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Calls media. I mean all of California in every card 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: like it did not like us as the number one 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: song in the country. It's streaming more than all of 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: the music that Jay Cole and Drake put out this 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: year combined. It's the game's over. You don't want it 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: with the compter Kid been trying to say it since 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: the beginning. If I were to give advice to the 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: Canadian I would say, just pop out, take your al 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: like a man, you know, be respectful, admit you got cooked, 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: Disappear for a few months, maybe a year, come back 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: with the Bombist album, you know, connect with all the 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Canadian artists across the country, you know, do dope work, 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: and make this be about like soul searching or something 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: about how you took this as a time to reflect 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: and become a better man and a better father and 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: all this good stuff and how you've changed. That's what 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: I would say anyway, But obviously this is future stuff. 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: Now we're going to go back in time to what 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: I'm talking about in part two. All right, here we go. 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: What modern music, pop culture, hip hop, and politics have 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: in common. It's something that I starting out this show 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: would have never thought because of how the central premise 23 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: of the show works. But I never thought that the 24 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: thing that unites all of these things is the power 25 00:01:50,400 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: of the meme politics. Y'all all right? Part two of 26 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: Lessons of the Big Three. And one of the things 27 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: that sometimes worked for me was yesterday I had like 28 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: a really bad like sinus situation because oh my god, 29 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: the pollen spring is like I hate your face, like 30 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: Buddy's allergies been good lord. So there was that, and 31 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: also I lost the relative, So yesterday was a little 32 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: not really the easiest I usually I'm saying this because 33 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: I usually record on Mondays and today is Tuesday. So 34 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: had I recorded this episode yesterday, which, like I've said before, 35 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm recording these lessons from the Big Three asynchronistically that's 36 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: how you say it, yeah, meaning I'm recording them out 37 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: of order, I hadn't already done Part three, and in 38 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: part one I did a long time ago. Had I 39 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: recorded this yesterday, I would have missed out at what 40 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: happened today, which is Kendrick finally responded, and it adds 41 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: to the point so beautifully of what I was trying 42 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: to say, and not even so much the lyrics itself, 43 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: but the response to the lyrics. So let me get 44 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: into it, and let me make my point about the 45 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: sophistication of the sophistic focation, the sophistic ratchetness of it. 46 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: The last point I tried to make in the last 47 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: episode about this is the what are we even doing? Thing? 48 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: The descending into the particulars versus keeping up with the 49 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: big picture, and it is being discussed in this In 50 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: this whole thing is to keep in mind that these 51 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: are millionaires writing poems about each other, growman talking about 52 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: stuff that don't matter, and what's beautiful is In k 53 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: Dot's response, even says that, like essentially, he says, I 54 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: have better things to do, but also I have to 55 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: address this, and I'm going to address it. So bringing 56 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: into the chat the we have bigger fish to fry, 57 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: we have very important things to talk about. But also 58 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm down to get into the muck and myer with you. 59 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: He was like, I know you don't think my whole 60 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: life is rap. I'm not calling around getting dirt about you. 61 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: I have a son to raise, you know, So I 62 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: think that there's that, and I'm going to talk about 63 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: how we need that attitude with our politics. Secondly, I 64 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: want to talk about the Rick Ross of it all, 65 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: and then the Kanye of it all because both of 66 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: them jumped in and all of this to make the 67 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: point of part two, which is, while memes work, they 68 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: destroy us as time goes on, and how comical sound 69 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: something can become, we eventually stop taking it serious. It 70 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: eventually becomes boring, the law of diminishing returns. These are 71 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: things that we already know about ourselves that if we 72 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: step back for a second, we've allowed to happen to 73 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: our politics. And the only thing that usually wakes us 74 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: up in hip hop from the memification of stuff is 75 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: when somebody dies. That's when everybody wakes up and says 76 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: what's going on? But you have people like Vin Staples 77 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: who steps in and he says, like, why are we 78 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: y'all love hearing us talk about tearing each other down? 79 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: But like, why are we not talking about publishing, licensing labels, 80 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: what Universal Music Group has done? Why are we not 81 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that none of us are actually 82 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: making money off our songs? And then my boy consciously 83 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: brings up how somebody wrote a disc track to Detroit's 84 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: infrastructure because they were supposed to get a Hollywood sign 85 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: type sign for Detroit and then the sign they got 86 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: looked more like a dollar try like it was just 87 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: like they was like, Yo, what the hell is this? 88 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: You promised us like a Hollywood sign. This shit is trash, right, 89 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: so we like, Yo, I want to hear hip hop 90 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: talk about more distracks to the civic government, to their 91 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: local government, start dissing where the bridge is at, why 92 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: the city still got potholes? Y'all, lay like, I want 93 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: to hear these two black men tell each other down. 94 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: I want to know why we ain't got better school 95 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: us hilarious? All right, let me stop, let me let 96 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: me try to prove my point here. There are things 97 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: that we can learn from this time about ourselves and 98 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: about where we can go as a culture. And it 99 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: might feel like a stretch, but let me cook. Let 100 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: me land the plane. Which one of you which one 101 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: of the things y'all kids say, I don't know anyway? 102 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: A case for and against memes. One thing that is 103 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: absolutely true about them is that they take things that 104 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: are very complex or possibly complex, and you can reduce 105 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: them down to a way that is digestible and is 106 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: quickly shareable. Right, So in some ways it's good for 107 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: a culture whose attention span is shorter, who doesn't really 108 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 1: enjoy long form type things. So they play a role, 109 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: but they're also very reductive. I'm not telling you something 110 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: you don't already know. For us to pretend like politics 111 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: is not also entertainment is just that you're you're pretending. 112 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: Once cameras got turned on, and I'm even before that, 113 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: like you would go to you know, town hall meetings 114 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: and you know, of course it's passionate, of course you're invested, 115 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: but like you know, people are making these bolstering, big spectacles, 116 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: speeches that need to be entertaining. So the idea of 117 00:08:53,800 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: the purest in politics is something that I'm sure you know, 118 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm not. This is not like I sure you know 119 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: you know, the idea of like behind closed doors politicians 120 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: sitting around and discussing the merits of a law that 121 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: they're trying to get passed, you know, and why this 122 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: might be right, like the importance of climate change and infrastructure, Like, 123 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: come on, guys, you know that's not what's happening. You know, 124 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: these people smiling and putting their arms around Trump smiling, 125 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: put these people arms around, bidenduct them. Niggas ain't friends 126 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: y'all know that, so I don't have to like you know, right, 127 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: and you also know the best way to get your 128 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: point across rather than just arguing the merits of something 129 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: is either wheeling and dealing or just dragging the other person. 130 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: It's its memes. And what we continue to see, especially 131 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: in our last election, is that that type of behavior 132 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: is rewarded. It's rewarded with the presidency. So what are 133 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: you gonna tell him? I continue to hold to the 134 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: fact that Drake is corny, But what am I gonna 135 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: tell him? He's rewarded with everything he does. That's one 136 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: of the That's why he can make the statements he 137 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: can make. That's why he can do the things he 138 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: can do. But what we see is that meming and 139 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: corniness does have its limits. And my argument is for 140 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: this episode is the limits aren't so much just for 141 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: his or her own demise, but it's for the demise 142 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: of all of us. Sounding like an old guy, now, 143 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: we know lives are at state, we know where they are, 144 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: and we also know this is entertainment. Now, when you 145 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: get into the kfabe of it, all of hip hop, 146 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: there is a little bit of both. We don't know Kendrick. 147 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: We don't know, Drake, but they are actual men who 148 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: actually have interacted and they may or may not actually 149 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: not like each other for whatever reasons that you and 150 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. So some of this might actually be serious, 151 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: but we all know, let's be real, guys, this is entertainment, 152 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: like we're this is entertaining now again, people don't take 153 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: this entertainment serious until somebody die, right, That's usually what 154 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: snaps people into reality. Unfortunately, especially with hip hop. That's 155 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: when people be like, damn, like who I'm supposed to die? 156 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: Because But at the same time, there is a reality 157 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: that like it is understood, at least with hip hop music, 158 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: that it's supposed to be entertainment. We have the opposite. 159 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: In politics. It's understood that this is supposed to be serious. 160 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: You are supposed to be really passionate and caring about 161 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: the topics that you're caring about. You're supposed to be 162 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: saying things you truly believe in. Now, if it were 163 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: just about that, then then you take somebody like an 164 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren who in the debates was actually talking policy. 165 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: You know, we would be electing the nerds, the people 166 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: that are actually in the weeds because they're not entertaining, 167 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: they're just spitting facts. They just did the research, but 168 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: we don't want that. You need to be a little 169 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: bit of both, and it raps the same. You can't 170 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: just you can't just only meme. You gotta be able 171 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: to spit. So once you accept the fact that, like 172 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: there is a level of kfabe, the question is what's 173 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: an acceptable amount of k fabe? Until you get to 174 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: a point to where you're just corny and you clearly 175 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. When does what you're 176 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: being rewarded for stop rewarding you? When are you sent home? 177 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: When do the big boys come and talk? Now, when 178 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: the big boys come out and talk, how intricate it's? 179 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: This is the opposite. How intricate, how real? How far 180 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: in the weeds can you go before you lose the masses? 181 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: And ultimately, this is the question of Kendrick and Drake. 182 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: This is art versus commerce like it in a lot 183 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: of ways despite all the baggage of it all between 184 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: the name Clinton, if you look at the campaign season 185 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Set aside my opinions 186 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: about the artists of Drake and Kendrick you had a 187 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: person who knew what she was talking about and tried 188 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: to talk about it, versus a man who did not 189 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: know what he was talking about but was remarkably entertaining. 190 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: Let's just not lie like like Trump is not entertaining. 191 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: Of course there had to be something there because you 192 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: can't just be entertaining. But that's what we saw. How 193 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: far in the weeds can you go and listen? Everybody came, mean, 194 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: everybody's not funny, just like everybody can't battle. Everybody's not 195 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: every songwriter's not a good battle rapper. Everybody can't crack 196 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: jokes like that, because you saw when people tried to 197 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: go head to head with Trump and what he's good at, 198 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: you couldn't do it. He's good at that. Like you're 199 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: not as funny as him. That's just it's a reality. 200 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: You the memification in twenty sixteen one because you're just 201 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: not as funny as him. That's just it's just real. 202 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: Was he the better leader? I mean that's yet to 203 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: be discussed in the same way, like who's the better rapper, 204 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Kendrick or Drake? And it's crazy, as Kendrick says in 205 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: his in his disc recently, that was like everybody likes 206 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: you on to sing songy stuff, but when you start 207 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: acting tough guys, stuff like oh, nigga, you can't come 208 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: to the bungalows, you're not one of us. Stay over there, 209 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: stay in Calabasas, don't come to confetent. But fast forwarding 210 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: to my main premise, that was six minutes long. Now 211 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: knowing Kendrick, there's levels. It's six minutes because he's not 212 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: scared of the six stay with me. I'm reminded of 213 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: jay Z song. Do you listen to rap or you 214 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: just skim through it? If you have the patience and 215 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: the attention span to sit down and listen to six 216 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: minutes of rapping, you would hear. Kendrick airs out everything 217 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: we think about Drake. You're a pop singer, you're a 218 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: great pop singer. You've never made a classic. You're very corny. 219 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: You do very corny things at the end of the day, 220 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: And this is what Kendrick came at. And what's crazy 221 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: is I suggested this before I even heard this song. 222 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, what Drake Drake is 223 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: the homecoming prom king, captain of the football team, dating 224 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: the cheerleader, straight a student principals on a roll that edictorian, 225 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: and all he wants to do is kick it at 226 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: the bungalows and smoke weed with the cool kids. And 227 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: nim niggas don't like you. You are corny, And no 228 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: amount of prom and homecoming king Kings and Sadie Hawks, 229 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: no amount of that will make you not lame to us. 230 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: That's what Kendrick is saying, because that is his weakness. 231 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: I read in the comments somewhere that Kendrick rapped like 232 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: a politician, like he only worried about black vote because 233 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: carrying the metaphor forward like you're right, who cares about 234 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: a six minute rap? Who cares that I have more 235 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: lyrical miracle than you? Like Again, Drake's the captain of 236 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: the football team. Go to the frat parties, go with 237 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: the cheerleaders. I'm keeping it real for the culture now, 238 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: if you're running against a man with a personality like 239 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, you have to try to figure out the 240 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: one thing that matters to him. And in my opinion, 241 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: the one thing that matters to him is power. Its 242 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: power and respect. So if you could come at him 243 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: in a way that makes him feel like a fool, 244 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: nobody around you, respects you, And I don't care how 245 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: much money you got. I don't care how many people 246 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: you put around me. I don't care you firing everybody 247 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: around you to just keep people around you that will 248 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: just tell you what you want to do, which means 249 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: you are weak. Kendrick saying that song, you won't tell 250 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: lies about me, I won't tell the truth about you. 251 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: All he cares about is power. You're a weak man 252 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: and all your actions prove it. That's the only thing 253 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: you could say to him, especially if you Joe Biden, 254 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: Who's like, there's so many things you could say about Joe. 255 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: You have to find the one thing you could say 256 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: about him. And you can't do what Trump do. Trump's 257 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: a master at meming. You're not that good at that. 258 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Kendrick's thing is like, 259 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: we don't really like you. That's just it. You know. Now. 260 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: On the other hand, but who has the patience to 261 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: listen to six minute rap? Well? I do. But I 262 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: also have the patience to read an actual bill. I 263 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: have the patience to actually look at a court case. 264 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Is it too far? Does your intricacies make you lose this? 265 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: What's happened? Can you Is it possible to be too 266 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: qualified to run for office? Because going back to Drake's 267 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: original response, he's going after the boys in securities too. 268 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: He's like, look, man, you got size seven shoes, Like nigga, 269 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: you little the drop and give me fifty Like that's 270 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: it's wordplay. It's wordplay about fifty push ups. It's wordplay 271 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: about fifty percent of his publishing. He's like, you're funny, 272 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: you're short. I don't care. I forget the person's name, 273 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: but it was a person who I should just look 274 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: it up. But I don't want to stop recording this. 275 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: Just trust me. As a matter of fact, they talked 276 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: about it on The Daily and the New York Times podcast. 277 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: I think on Monday, which would be the twenty ninth, 278 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: that when we elect Trump, we're gonna know the difference 279 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: between our rules and our norms inside of democracy. That 280 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: is such a profound statement because with hip hop, obviously, 281 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: there's so much gun talk, right, there's so much like 282 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: Bravado when you attempt to address certain rappers versus other rappers. 283 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: We get to know which one of y'all are entertainers 284 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: and which one of y'all are gangsters and which one 285 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: of this is a little bit of both. That's a 286 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: lot of times that's how it plays out. So we 287 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: need to know are you really a shooter? And what 288 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: Jay Cole taught us is that like, not in a 289 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: bad way, but just he was truthful. He was like, look, 290 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm not a shooter, Like I don't. I'm not that. 291 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm a college kid who wanted to smash your girl. Right. 292 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: I just liked the way that outside smell, but I 293 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: ain't really outside. We certed interviews recently a Fat Joe 294 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: being like, Bro, the things that I've wrapped about would 295 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: put me up under the jail. I'm entertaining, y'all right, 296 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: So sometimes there are moments that the k fab is broken. 297 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: But when rappers rap about the code that was the 298 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: thing about Takashi six y nine, it's like, this is 299 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: how we get to know how much of this is 300 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: norms and how much of this is rules and the 301 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: things that we're seeing with Donald Trump in these courts 302 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: is saying like basically he's like, yo, there's no law 303 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: that says I can't do this. We just had an understanding, 304 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: and that's what people like a Trump. The stress testers 305 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: of the system do is they show you how much 306 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: of this is, Like do y'all really do we really 307 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: have a code or there's just understandings people like a 308 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: John Gotti. Y'all remember John Gotti? Like I'm bringing him 309 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: up because he was showing this. It's like the code 310 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: with mobsters was you play low, you don't be fascy. 311 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: He was like, Nigga, I ain't make this money to 312 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: not be flashy. I'm outside right. Takashi six nine was like, well, 313 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: I'm facing too much time. So when you have people 314 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: that challenge these norms and then get away with it, 315 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: then we realize the norms are just that they're not 316 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: They're not rules, their norms. Now, granted I can't name 317 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: the last time Takashi as like no one's talked about 318 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: him in years because fool, who cares? But what that 319 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: shows me is that our rules about snitching and about 320 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: being real we found the line. Cause it's like you're 321 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: the you're mais, it's you're in alote like there we're done, 322 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, And that's what that showed is like you 323 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: have the stress test to see which one of these 324 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: are rules, in which one of these are codes? Now 325 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: in a battle. I'm bouncing back and forth because I 326 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: want you to see, like, these are the lessons we 327 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: learned from this. In a battle, it's bar for bars, 328 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: song for song, and this is a display of your 329 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: prowess as an artist. But at the end of the day, 330 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: who's supposed to win is the fans, because we're supposed 331 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: to see the best, the best possible display of the 332 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: art form. This is good for the culture, This is 333 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: good for all of us. We win. And why I 334 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: can say that is because the artists are a part 335 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: of the culture. You're a part of hip hop. You're 336 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: creating it. So when you guys go at it, if 337 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: you go at it with the spirit of even if 338 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: we have animosity for each other, we're putting these songs out, 339 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: but it's it is an honor because we're raising the 340 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: standards of the entire culture. Right. This is best for 341 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: all of us. Everybody's making money, everybody's seeing really good 342 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: hip hop happen. I want to see in a dream 343 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: world where you know, Magic Jordan Kobe, Lebron Steph if 344 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: everybody in their prime all being able to just run 345 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: three on threes are just like at the gym, just 346 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: running like five on five pickup games. You're just the 347 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: caliber of basket ball that we would see is like 348 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: just it would be the best. It's the best basketball. 349 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: It's ai it's the best best if Alan Iverson was 350 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: the best possible basketball ever to be played ever freaking 351 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: space jam level, Like just the best possible basketball. That's 352 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: what you want to see. And sometimes you got a 353 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: player like Johnny Stockton, right, who is just a dirty player. 354 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: You got you got a Dennis Rodney who is just 355 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: a dirty player, a bill Laane Beer. You feel me, 356 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: you gotta have Draymond on the court. You understand what 357 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that's part of the game. Is like, 358 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: of course they're gonna be elbows thrown. Of course it's 359 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: gonna get rough. But at the end of the day, 360 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: this is the best of the best going at each 361 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: other and the culture wins, which is what a democracy 362 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: is supposed to be. We're supposed to see the smartest, 363 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 1: the brightest, the best of the best discuss the best 364 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: way for our country to go forward. But it's not 365 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: its means. We see if these what who we really 366 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: are and what really works by what is rewarded? So 367 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: when Drake finally responded with the drop and give me fifty. 368 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: He was rapping, y'all, Like I cannot. There is no 369 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: way in the world I would take away from the 370 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: fact that he was rapping. But the rapping isn't what 371 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: anybody cared about, per se. They cared about the meat, 372 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: the punchlines. Drake got that little nas xs thing like 373 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: they were born on the Internet. They're just really good 374 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: at the Internet. Just master trolls like fifty a master troll, right, 375 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: And it's so entertaining. But then we find the line 376 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: meming can only get you so far unless you're Donald Trump. 377 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: But meming can only get you so far. You know, 378 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: doing things just for the spectacle can only get you 379 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: so far. At some point you have to have substance. 380 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: At some point you have to know what you're talking about. 381 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: At least that's what we hope. How do we know 382 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: this is because when he did the AI pop it 383 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: was too far. We found the line that's corny and 384 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: he had to pull it down. And it's that is 385 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: what drew Kendrick out of this out of silence. But 386 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: in between that you have Rick Ross coming in. When 387 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: Rick Ross started rapping, the song he dropped was kind 388 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: of whatever. What was dope was his Instagram the BBL 389 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: Drake because Rick Ross is funny and like the point 390 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: I make in part three, which is the reality is 391 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: this is what you want. You want to be outside 392 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: with us washing off chevies, But you gotta go home, 393 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: white boy, you gotta call your mom. You like, you're 394 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: not one of us. So the power of what he 395 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: did was not the prowess, but going after the man's weakness, 396 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: and it got us talking, It got us pointing and 397 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: laughing at Drake for a while. And then Drake came back. 398 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: You know, I loved his comeback. They're like, you know, 399 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: sit your old ass down. You're almost fifty bro chill, 400 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: but it didn't matter. You're BBL Drake. Now you know, 401 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: He's like, what is this a twenty against one? Poor Drake? 402 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: Like right, but also not poor Drake, You're still a 403 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: number one artist, Like there's not none of this should 404 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: matter to you. But that was a flash, you know, 405 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: in a pan because it can only get you so far. 406 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: And then finally, is the ultimate point I'm trying to 407 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: make is when memes get to absurdity and we have 408 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: to get brought back to reality, and I am placing 409 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: that squarely on Kanye because it felt to me like 410 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: the day that our aunts and uncles finally got on Facebook. 411 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, it's dead. Now, this is kind 412 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: of over it, you know. I'm just I'm over it, Nelly. 413 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: And it's not necessarily the fact that it's Kanye, but 414 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, bro, nobody was talking to you. 415 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I get it. I don't like Drake either, but like, 416 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: why are you here? We're watching the stars like clash, 417 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it should be great. 418 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: And Kendrick at that point wasn't moved. It's been like 419 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: two weeks at that point, he had not moved. And 420 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: then Drake drops the AI pop and Snoop one, and 421 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: again you've moved into absurdity now, so now it's like 422 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: what are we doing? And then that's when finally, as 423 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: of yesterday, the song Euphoria, Kendrick just dropped. But the 424 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: point of this whole pod is, no matter how good 425 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: Euphoria is, and I am here to testify as a 426 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: fan of rap, that six minute rap is incredible. I 427 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: just wonder if it matters now because we're too far 428 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: into the meme worlds it took too long. We're over 429 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: it now again. Like I said, he here for the 430 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: black vote because so US rapidy rap rappers, US West 431 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Coast folk, we like nigga. Finally, man blew this dude's 432 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: head off, and we'll see how long the world talks 433 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: about it. Because Kendrick is very good at making moments. 434 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: That's one thing that I know. What's that boy? Uh 435 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: Loupe Fiasco said, He's like, Yo, Kendrick makes moments. He 436 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: knows how to make the world stop and listen to him. 437 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: And what I love about him is the fact that 438 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: he does that by just rapping. That is not like 439 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: any other spectacle except for just these are bars and 440 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm going out after the person. He's like, I don't 441 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: like subliminals. I don't have no respect for that. I 442 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: say what I need to say, I drop it, and 443 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm out. You ain't gonna see him on. He ain't 444 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: doing no memes, He ain't doing none of that. But 445 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: I just wonder if the memification sucked a lot of 446 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: the energy out of this. So I say that about 447 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: our politics, and I think we all know the answer 448 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: that while memes can get you elected, does the culture win? 449 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: Are we better for it. They were fun. Listen, I'm 450 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: sure in these right wing circles all your let's go 451 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: branding things are so funny. Has it made the world? 452 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: Has it made the culture better? Do you feel better? 453 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 1: All of our outrage around what conservatism is doing. We 454 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: can make our memes and just share them, but like, 455 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: are we better? Like we need to consider for ourselves, 456 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: especially going into this election, what are we willing to tolerate? Because, 457 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: like I said, what usually snaps us into reality is death. Now, 458 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: if you're looking at our college campuses, they've been snapped 459 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: back into reality. Like I'm not playing with y'all. I'm 460 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: done playing. No, I need you to divest. They've been 461 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: snapped into reality. And they looking at this man, Joe Biden, 462 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: and they looking at the Trump twenty twenty five to 463 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, playing Trump two point zero, and they like, 464 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: we're not having this. They especially looking at Biden who 465 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: told them that you were supposed to be riding with us. 466 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: But like, I'm done, I'm done with the memes. People 467 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: are dying. So I am coming in here to be 468 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: the Vince Staples of the conversation. It's to say, let's 469 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: reward the behavior that makes us all better. Now. Having 470 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: said that, does that mean that you're not supposed to 471 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: go at each other. No, you're not supposed to bring 472 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: the best bars you possibly can. Absolutely, I want Drake 473 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: to spit as hard as he can. I want Kendrick 474 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: to be merciless. Not because I want to see them 475 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 1: torn down, but I want to see culture built now 476 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: if it's about just skills, if it's about seeing that 477 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: now again, going back to ten thousand feet, like the 478 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: first episode, what are we even doing? Have we lost 479 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: the plot here? Is this not about all of our success? 480 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: Is this not about the flourishing of the culture period? 481 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: What should be Listen? I want to see our candidates 482 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: bring their best ideas and I want us to push 483 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: it that to ignore the memes. That's my encouragement to us. 484 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: Ignore the memes going into the policy. Just ignore it, 485 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: ignore that and be like, give me bars, tell me 486 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: what you got, tell me the plan you don't, don't 487 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: just count on me being your fan. I'm not going 488 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: to listen to no DJ academics, you know the political 489 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: equivalent of that. I ain't going to Joe Budden's podcast. Hey, 490 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: I want to hear from your mouth. You tell me, 491 00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: what's your plan what we're doing here? And he say this, 492 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: I want you to come back with some substance now. 493 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't need no memes. I need you to come 494 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: back with some substance. Tell me what it is now. 495 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about the presidential election, because as 496 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: we know that shit is sale, that's gonna be what 497 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: it is. I'm talking about as you looking down your ballots, 498 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: I'm talking about you looking at your governors. I'm talking 499 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: about you looking as you looking at the totality of 500 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: what we're gonna vote for. Hood politics. Ignore the memes, 501 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: tell them people to spit they bars. I need these 502 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: fifteen minute raps. I need you to show me you 503 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: got octuplets, my nigga. Give me the heat. And I 504 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: need to know you can make a hit. I need 505 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: to know you can make a song, make it plain 506 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: for us, make it fun. I still want to dance. 507 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: I ain't always in the books. Show me you could 508 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: do it all. Can you crack jokes? Can you get it? 509 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: Can you go on S and L and can you 510 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: go bring the heat to Shijing Ping? Can you do both? 511 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: Get you one that can do both? Because Lord knows 512 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: we needed because listen. Sometimes entertainment spill out to death, 513 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: and if you've been around for a while, no, that's 514 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: quite possible. Of politics. All right, now, don't you hit 515 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: stop on this pod. You better listen to these credits. 516 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: I need you to finish this thing so I can 517 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: get the download numbers. Okay, so don't stop it yet, 518 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: but listen. 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