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Speaker 1: NFL Explained is a production of the NFL in partnership

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Speaker 1: with I Heart Radio. Hey, what's going on everyone? It

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Speaker 1: is a brand new NFL season which is right around

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Speaker 1: the corner, so of course we are back to bring

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Speaker 1: you another full season of NFL Explained. I'm my Yam,

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Speaker 1: and I enjoined by someone who is going to be

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Speaker 1: doing a ton of the explaining this year, give us

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Speaker 1: the player's perspective, the deep dive on some of the

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Speaker 1: NFL's biggest questions. It's my new co host. He's a

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Speaker 1: pro bowler, super Bowl winner, Michael Robinson, or as we

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Speaker 1: affectionately call him here at NFL Network, m rob It

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Speaker 1: is awesome to be with you, man. Yes, it's great

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Speaker 1: to be a part of this podcast. You know, Yams,

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of football scenarios and situations in

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Speaker 1: my eight NFL seasons. Those experiences allow me to dig

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Speaker 1: a little deeper into those statistics. You know how those

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Speaker 1: statistics go on the field. Come on, man, let's get it. Yeah. Well, hold,

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Speaker 1: not to be fair here, and there's a slight little correction.

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Speaker 1: I will handle the statistical aspect of it because I

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Speaker 1: was not physically gifted like you. Your experiences are the

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Speaker 1: ones inside the locker room. You were the ones taking

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Speaker 1: the hits on the football field. I would probably better

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Speaker 1: suited for making sure that you were saying hydrated. Man. Look,

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Speaker 1: I know you've seen the water boarded water boy hitting

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Speaker 1: I've taken pictures sex to him. He's definitely bigger than

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Speaker 1: I am. With that in mind, look, it is awesome

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Speaker 1: to be with you. There's a wealth of knowledge that

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Speaker 1: you have and unique perspective that you're going to be

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Speaker 1: bringing every single episode. So for episode number one, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do an NFL Explained version of a season preview.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna run through a number of relevant topics and

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Speaker 1: take a closer look into the stats, the history, and

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Speaker 1: as I made reference to, we'll get em Rob's professional

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Speaker 1: And since we started off the top with the theme

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Speaker 1: at is the fact that they're m ROB ten new

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Speaker 1: It's actually over of the league. I'll be the numbers

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight. Now you came into the league gain

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Speaker 1: a coaching change in your first few years in San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: transition personality wise, when you're stepping into that. How unique

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Speaker 1: And then linebackers coach Mike Singletary, one of the all

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Speaker 1: defense that can get after the passion, they can take

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Speaker 1: the ball away, they play tough nose. Again, having a

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Speaker 1: great defense for a quarterback, it's like having a whole

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Speaker 1: life insurance man. You can always go back to it

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Speaker 1: and use it as an own in house banking and

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Speaker 1: all that type of That's what it's like. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: what it's like. And so he has the keys to

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Speaker 1: the car um. Now you have Kyle Shanahan, who from

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Speaker 1: a play calling standpoint, he knows how to run the football.

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Speaker 1: He anybody can run the football and coy Shanahan's offense.

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Speaker 1: And when you can run the football, that means it's

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Speaker 1: one on one on the outside. You do have Deebo

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Speaker 1: Samuel on the outside, and so now playing quarterback is

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Speaker 1: a little bit easier, right, it's just one on one,

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Speaker 1: is just pitch and catch. So I think Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: will have the biggest jump, especially when you look at

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Speaker 1: what the forty Niners did to get him, and you

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Speaker 1: look at your taking a proven winner in Jimmy Garoppolo,

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Speaker 1: and you're basically saying, I know he's a winner. It's

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Speaker 1: all good. He paying for us no more, though, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna let him go and somebody please come get him.

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Speaker 1: Just the fact that this organization is competent organization will

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Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for they drafted me. I love,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the people in the front office, very

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Speaker 1: competent people. For them to let Jimmy Garoppolo walk like that,

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Speaker 1: that tells you all you need to know about Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance and terrific when he was in college in terms

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Speaker 1: of play Actually, we see a lot of that in

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Speaker 1: the play calling with Kyle Shanahan. And I'll take it

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Speaker 1: a step further. I actually covered that draft and I

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Speaker 1: had the Niners for us at NFL Network and one

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Speaker 1: of the things that I'll never forget, and it screams

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Speaker 1: to the point that you're making. John Lynch, their general manager,

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Speaker 1: said hey, we've moved up and the unique situation that

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Speaker 1: Trey Lances in compared to every other young quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: gave you the list, right, Trevor Lawrence, There's a reason

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Speaker 1: why they were picking that night, right the Jets with

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson issues there. The point is this is a

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Speaker 1: roster that if they made the Super Bowl, you're not surprised,

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Speaker 1: not surprised at all. And just in season they were

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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. And I can make an argument

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Speaker 1: to Kyle Shanahan that if he continued to run the

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Speaker 1: football on the net Super Bowl and when they lost

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Speaker 1: to the Patriots when he was with Atlanta, if he

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Speaker 1: just ran the football, he'd be a two times Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl winning coach right now. But he isn't because he

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Speaker 1: didn't run the football to get Degbo sent me the ball.

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Speaker 1: So I think Trey Lance is that guy that's gonna

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Speaker 1: take this offense to new heights. No, I'm with you there.

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Speaker 1: Now we're talking quarterbacks. We're talking about dudes in year

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Speaker 1: number two. And I know we loved up the a

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Speaker 1: f C West earlier, but their quarterbacks in the record

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Speaker 1: books for performances in year number two not shocking. The

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Speaker 1: half billion dollar man, Patrick Mahomes most passing touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: passing yards in a second season in NFL history with

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Speaker 1: fifty TVs and five Yeah, that's no joke. That was

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Speaker 1: his sad. That was the second year number two. Dude

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Speaker 1: was just bawling. And how many of those fifty touchdowns

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Speaker 1: like second come on to Tyree take off, you know,

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Speaker 1: and just roll second year in the league that many yards.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like he did have a great teacher. Alex

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Speaker 1: Smithy was my quarterback in San Francisco, and the fact

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Speaker 1: that Alex was there first, I mean to me that

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Speaker 1: was like the perfect way to groom your quarterback, have

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Speaker 1: them for a year and then leadal league and passed

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Speaker 1: the next year. I mean kind of feeds into your

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Speaker 1: answer about Trey Lance with Jimmy garofin like all kind

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Speaker 1: of a process is staying in line there. But look

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Speaker 1: the fifty touchdowns. Impressive, five thousand, ninety seven passing yards

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Speaker 1: from homes. And then Justin Herbert, who you said is

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Speaker 1: one of the best young quarterbacks in the NFL. The

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Speaker 1: numbers bared out. Herbert fourth on the TV list with

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Speaker 1: thirty eight touchdowns, also holds the completion record with four

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty three for a quarterback in year number two.

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Speaker 1: Those look a lot of records. Last year, I mean, hell,

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Speaker 1: last year on NFL Explained, we did an episode on

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Speaker 1: records being broken. There was a ton of them. Any

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Speaker 1: anything that jumped out at you because I got a

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Speaker 1: bunched that her here, you know, Brady with the past

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Speaker 1: completion record Herbert, you know, passing yards and touchdowns in

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Speaker 1: the player's first two seasons combined The point is there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to choose from anything. Stand out, Um, I

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Speaker 1: gotta go with Jalen Waddle and the receptions record. The

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Speaker 1: record receptions record. This kid, you know, a year before

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Speaker 1: last year, was in college okay, our amateur game okay.

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Speaker 1: And then he comes into the National Football League sets

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Speaker 1: the record a hundred and four receptions, Like that's not

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Speaker 1: a little number, Like this guy's have been in this

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Speaker 1: league for years that don't get those types of receptions

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Speaker 1: in the season. Hell, I don't even know if I

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Speaker 1: got that for a career, and this this young guy

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Speaker 1: got it in one year, his rookie season. So to me,

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Speaker 1: that's phenomenal. It also tells a story about the wide receivers. Right,

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Speaker 1: wide receivers are coming into the National Football League a

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Speaker 1: little bit more prepared. We saw that happen to running

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Speaker 1: back some years back. Right running backs come into this

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Speaker 1: league a little bit more prepared, and you know, it's

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Speaker 1: a double edged sword. I hate to say it, but

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Speaker 1: maybe teams will start looking at wilde receivers kind of

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Speaker 1: like they look at running back, so we can just

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Speaker 1: find one of them anywhere. They all can catch, they

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Speaker 1: all are fast, they all run sub for for all

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Speaker 1: of those things, but to see j Leen Widdle set

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Speaker 1: the rookie recommends pretty cool. Jamaar Chase setting the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl era rookiecord with receiving yards over fourteen hundred, Justin

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Speaker 1: Jefferson and NFL record for receiving yards and his players

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Speaker 1: first two seasons. Mike Evans not And I know this

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Speaker 1: sounds crazy because we do love him up and we

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Speaker 1: know how good he is, but I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we know how good, just how

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Speaker 1: good he is extended his own record for most consecutive

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Speaker 1: seasons with at least a thousand yards to start a

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Speaker 1: career with eight, which is just wild. And I gotta

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Speaker 1: throw some love to t J. Watt, who tied Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer Michael Strahan's single season sack record with twenty

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Speaker 1: two and a half, which apparently, according to Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: will be broken at his number, which would be ridiculously impressive.

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Speaker 1: By the way, just one of the note here, because

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get you on some records that

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Speaker 1: could go down this season, any record that you're keeping

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Speaker 1: an eye on for this upcoming season that you think

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Speaker 1: could get broken. Um, I'm a runner Okay. Even when

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Speaker 1: I played quarterback, I was a runner, Mike. Okay. So

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Speaker 1: Jonathan tayl I think is the best running back in

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Speaker 1: the national football Yes, I'm going on record to say

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Speaker 1: there's no aide to King Henry. I love King Henry,

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Speaker 1: but King Henry is more of a volume back. You

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Speaker 1: gotta gotta feed him for him to beat you up.

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Speaker 1: To me, Jonathan Taylor from a acceleration, from a speed

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Speaker 1: through the hole from I can catch the ball, I

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Speaker 1: can also pass protect. I think Jonathan Taylor can get

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Speaker 1: over two thousand yards this year. I really do. And

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Speaker 1: now he has a signal caller who's not gonna throw

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Speaker 1: the ball with his left hand in his and in

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Speaker 1: his ends own and throw an interception for Matt Ryan

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Speaker 1: is not gonna do that. Matt Ryan actually will say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, y'all canna keep playing to safety high

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Speaker 1: because you're scared of Michael Pittman Jr. And my guys

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Speaker 1: on the outside. I will call a run fifty times

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Speaker 1: in a row. Don't challenge me. That's why I think

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Tylor has a real good shot of going over

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Speaker 1: two thousand yards this season. Back to back years where

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Speaker 1: we could potentially be talking about him as the best

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Speaker 1: running back in the NFL, absolutely, which would be remarkable

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Speaker 1: if he hits that to k Mark episode number one

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Speaker 1: NFL explained officially now in the books, m Rob, I

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Speaker 1: am so jacked up for the start of the season.

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Speaker 1: Look all year long, every single week to who the whare,

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Speaker 1: the what, the why, the how? You and I are

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Speaker 1: going to be discussing it. I will be bringing more

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Speaker 1: of the analytical stat side of things. I'll bring the water.

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Speaker 1: I'll make sure that you're hydrated for the for the

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Speaker 1: next episode, to make sure that that you're ready to

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Speaker 1: rock and ball. I would appreciate you guys checking in

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Speaker 1: with us and follow us on social media. Would love

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Speaker 1: to get your take on some other episodes that you'd

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Speaker 1: love to hear us talk about and answer some of

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Speaker 1: your burning questions around the NFL. It's a season preview,

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