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Speaker 2: It's time to band. Hey, Aaron, go bra Hey, lose lebra. Actually, hey,

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Speaker 2: it's Morning Combat. It's St Patrick's Day, Monday, March seventeenth,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and twenty five. You stumbled into the greatest

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Speaker 2: combat sports show they ever thought about putting together. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yeah, let's get down with that, right, Hey,

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell that BBC with that BD. But my co

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Speaker 2: It's Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: What's up, bro? What's up?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Bro? Herby? By the way, the Irish get quite bitter.

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Speaker 1: They don't like it when you say Saint Patty's Day.

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Speaker 2: Do they like it when Codor McGregor goes to the

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Speaker 2: White House on Saint Patty's Day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? What they What they apparently prefer is it's either

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Speaker 1: Patty's Day or Saint Patrick's Day. But you can't call

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Speaker 1: it Saint Patty's Day. And I'm here to tell the

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Speaker 1: Irish We're probably just gonna call it Saint Patt's Day.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to tell you that.

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Speaker 2: Like and anyone else, suck on my pay lotos, Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 2: the original right there. Hey, I hope you're doing well,

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Speaker 2: Hope you're fired up, Hope you enjoyed another APEX card

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. We're gonna break that down. As Roman

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Speaker 1: Patty's beating up them lyft drivers?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first round KO, nice combo, But they gotta match

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Speaker 2: him now, they got it. They got to put him

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Speaker 1: Now it's time. I saw Dan Condobio saying they she

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Speaker 2: That would be sick. So there was a lot of

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Speaker 2: fights over the weekend. We'll look at the biggest stuff. Also,

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Speaker 2: we'll answer your questions with the ms from Donks. And

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Speaker 2: then I got a batch of shit today that I

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Speaker 1: Now. Do you have people dying or eating feces or

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Speaker 1: some other thing that's going to get us hemmed up by.

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Speaker 2: The don't think so, but I think it's a nice

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Speaker 2: as well. And of course we do have a third

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Speaker 2: him taking bong rips on his main card minute podcast

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. He's the son of an Australian. His

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Speaker 2: name Long Island Luke Nosita.

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Speaker 4: What's up boys?

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Speaker 1: Great?

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Speaker 4: Great fights this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Surprising great, Yeah great, it's a strong word, but definitely good.

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Speaker 2: Never back to back pick first round KOs I will I.

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Speaker 2: And look, say what you will about the main event

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Speaker 1: It was kind of I think of all the charm

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Speaker 2: Well, now did you enjoy that?

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Speaker 4: I call it a technical thriller?

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. All right, there you go. So

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Speaker 2: As I said, Luke, anything you want to bring up,

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Speaker 1: About I had, I had teas that I had an announcement,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear. Does this have anything to

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Speaker 1: It's all. It has nothing to do with anything news.

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Speaker 2: Coming today after m K. If you're a big Luke

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Speaker 2: there's plenty who arts let's put it that I wanted

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Speaker 2: to shout out MK listener Corey Marlin. I know you're

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Speaker 2: going through a lot right now, physically, got some surgeries

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, that's all you can tell people.

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Speaker 2: Keep fighting, all right, coming Okay, keep swinging the acts,

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's just turn tragedy to sexual jokes.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me just turn the tables very quickly. Do

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'll be on the call though Saturday night,

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay for PBC on I forgot Amazon

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Speaker 2: Prime Prime Video. By the way, Sebastian Fundora in the

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Speaker 2: Friday for MK. Oh that's right, yes, So programming note

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Speaker 1: Very and uh there's also UFC on Saturday, it'd be great.

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Speaker 2: And also this fantastic episode of Morning Combat. Oh, by

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Speaker 2: the way, presented to you by our friends at Draft Kings.

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Speaker 2: And as you already know, with Draft Kings, the Crown

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you so very quickly. Last thing, Long Island,

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Speaker 4: I actually had a great weekend. I went five of

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Speaker 1: I forgot who it was. It's the guy who forgive me.

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Speaker 2: It works. Hey, let's start the show though, Okay with

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Speaker 2: Vttori and Roman deleted it. The first time around, Vattori

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Speaker 2: But in this rematch, which was all action and was

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Speaker 1: Yes, and he had more offensive ideas in this fight

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Speaker 1: Did you not get a sickening feeling in your stomach

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Speaker 2: It wasn't consistent, but you could see the att Mike Brown,

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Speaker 1: You could see some things he was trying to add.

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Speaker 1: He just wasn't theory.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of head movement every once in a while.

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Speaker 1: Hard to go for him. From defense to offense. He's

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Speaker 2: To me, that made all the difference, no doubt about it. Well, look,

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Speaker 2: it would go two to one, two to one, three

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Speaker 2: nothing on those score cards this time around over five rounds.

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Speaker 2: but I give Delidze credit in rounds four and five

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Speaker 1: rounds four and five clear rounds for Delde, Round two

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Speaker 1: The debate is whether or not Vittori, who numerically outlanded Dalids,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see it that way, but it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: either way. Two four and five clear rounds for Delidze.

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Speaker 2: They both show. I mean, look, was it the highest

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Speaker 2: wasn't Autosnia versus Whitaker level, but the chins, the gas tanks,

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Speaker 2: Long Island. Look, before we hear from Vittori, do you

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Speaker 2: think there's a case scoring wise three to two here

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Speaker 4: Nah, I had it Dalis for to one. I don't

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Speaker 1: Do you think the first round was close?

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Speaker 4: Yes, for sure. I thought the whole fight was close,

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Speaker 4: But like I still thought Alieds clearly won.

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Speaker 1: One guy just kind of pulled a head.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, tough break for Vittori because he did

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Speaker 2: fight hard twenty five minutes. He's been so many five

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Speaker 2: round main events, whether he's deserved them all or not. Right,

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Speaker 2: he's been kind of kind of a favorite of UFC.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there does seem to be that Lorenzo connection

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Speaker 1: And again his youth, he's at one of the young Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's changing now, but for a long time

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Speaker 2: Turned the corner. That was the big question we had

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Speaker 2: crist There were pockets of improvements of craft, little moments

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Speaker 1: Do me say this? You had Dominic Cruz mentioning this,

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Speaker 1: and I think he Dominic Cruz mentions this all the time.

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Speaker 1: of my big criticisms of this fights like, these guys

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Speaker 2: That's why I think when we get into the whole

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Speaker 2: this case the leeds a how far does he catapult

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Speaker 2: into true contention. There was no setups, There wasn't a

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Speaker 2: maybe outside of one. So it really was just who's

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Speaker 2: going to be tough for over twenty five minutes? Who

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Speaker 2: can land the bigger shots? Entertaining to a certain degree,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think like either one raise their stock

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Speaker 2: you that, look, if you can go twenty five hard

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Speaker 2: with him, he's got he's got the tools to win that.

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Speaker 2: But this was a very basic but sort of simplistic

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Speaker 2: fight in that regard. Well, let's hear from Vitori in

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Speaker 2: terms of losing this close fight in his return from

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Speaker 2: that what shoulder injury.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it's right.

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Speaker 2: Here's Marvin Vctori.

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Speaker 6: Yep, nothing too bad, just some cuts and bruises. Fuck man,

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Speaker 6: life sometimes shows you that even you give your heart

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Speaker 6: out and everything you got, you still fall short. It

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Speaker 6: was a close fight, almost had him on the turn,

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Speaker 6: but I guess it wasn't enough and uh yeah, man, fuck,

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Speaker 6: I don't even know what to say. Just thank you

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Speaker 6: to Att the best in the war, bro, thank you, Dan,

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Speaker 6: Mike Macahon, Marco, everybody, Broun, you know, all the sporty

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Speaker 2: Thank you UFC.

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Speaker 1: What the fucking my saber?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, that's it, Luke's serious question. Too many

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Speaker 1: First of all, let he he was without sin cast

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Speaker 1: the first stone.

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Speaker 2: Is there a thing? Is too many bbls?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I listen, Okay. I have two opinions

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Speaker 1: he's doing what we're asking him to do in the

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Speaker 1: He changed up camps, he moved all the way across

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure where exactly collects his maile.

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Speaker 2: You remember where his old camp was.

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Speaker 1: It was King's m m A. He was with Hafel

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Speaker 1: And he finally goes over to Florida. You know you,

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Speaker 1: I'm trending with Mike Brown and att there going to

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Speaker 1: but however far that is, they're gonna get it. Yes, right,

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Speaker 1: And so all of those things I really like and

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Speaker 1: these are difficult things to like. It takes King Moto

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Speaker 1: go to a new camp to get adjusted. Even if

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Speaker 1: just a function of how much time you have. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, the big knock on what he was

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Speaker 1: doing was there just wasn't. He's a decision machine either way,

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Speaker 1: either he wins via decision or he loses via decision

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Speaker 1: because he does have that foundational game. But there's nothing dangerous.

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Speaker 1: He has to find that BC. Yes, he's got to

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Speaker 1: find that extra gear, and I do believe Mike Brown

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Speaker 1: He looks like a million hercules walking around out there.

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Speaker 2: When you have I don't know how long it skill lises,

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Speaker 1: To the point you raised about, like why the UFC

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Speaker 2: Hurt let's say I hurt him at all.

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Speaker 1: But the other parts there there is you you look

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Speaker 1: he's regressed, might be a little early to say something

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Speaker 2: He would tweet afterwards that he wants a trilogy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: no good, one's gonna want that now. But do we

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Speaker 2: see it down the road? Doesn't matter?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. There's no need to run that.

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Speaker 1: They didn't need to run this FI I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Now Deliede would say ultimately that not fighting angry for

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Speaker 2: Here's the Leja talking about this victory.

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Speaker 7: You know a lot of guys are they are, oh,

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Speaker 7: we are going to war. Listen, these guys don't see

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Speaker 7: the war. I see plenty of wars in my life

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Speaker 7: two thousand and eight in Georgia, when I was born,

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Speaker 1: People don't know what is real war.

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Speaker 7: But and when these guys are going there and so

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Speaker 7: I'm looking at their eyes and they're very serious about it,

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Speaker 7: I understand these guys don't know nothing about it. If

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Speaker 7: I can show them if they want. But this is

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Speaker 7: I respect all of them. It's not like they are

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Speaker 7: during weightings, I go to him. I said, Marvin, I

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Speaker 7: was in Rome. It's an amazing city. I loved it

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Speaker 7: He was a little bit choked, probably, and understand why

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Speaker 7: I'm talking to it. But I'm not looking at these

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Speaker 7: cruel guy. I'm going there because I know that they

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Speaker 7: But it doesn't mean it. I mean to them, and

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Speaker 7: it's only sport for me and nothing more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not real war. Do you think that there

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Speaker 2: Game of Thrones type clothing, that you should have to

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Speaker 1: I would not doubt once again, I've said it before,

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Speaker 1: if you wear dead animals, and I mean like leather

435
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 1: you know Michael COR's jacket you bought at jay Z Penny.

436
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't mean that, but I mean like real ass

437
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 1: fucking game that you killed. You know, you mean business.

438
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that is interesting for him to say that

439
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,880
Speaker 2: it happened this late in his career where he finally

440
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Speaker 2: figured out how to keep his emotions and poison check,

441
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,840
Speaker 2: and he was basically saying that this maturity in fire

442
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,159
Speaker 2: in the fight, he would get hit, get mad, and

443
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,879
Speaker 2: use up a lot of his gas tank in that regard.

444
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 1: So sorry, I putt my hand up on the camera.

445
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,120
Speaker 1: But again I'm not saying transformational. But did it look

446
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 1: to you like he was, overall relative to the first fighter,

447
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,120
Speaker 1: certainly earlier in his career making better decisions. I would

448
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 1: argue that it looked that way, and when you're calm,

449
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 1: you can.

450
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 2: Do that better, but not best. And I know we'll

451
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 2: talk in a second about who he called out and

452
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Speaker 2: what his future is, but look, I don't even though

453
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 2: he upped his output, which was a key part of

454
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Speaker 2: winning this fight along with fixing his damna, he was

455
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 2: fighting a single strike opponent, I don't know if that

456
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 2: output is gonna win him fights against the elites. We'll

457
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 2: get to that. I want to bring up the elephant

458
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 2: in the room, though, and that's Herbdan. That's that's the

459
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 2: ipoke central that went down. It's every week that we're

460
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 2: talking about ipokes, and they're back with the old gloves,

461
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 2: which I think makes it happen more. But the central

462
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 2: tension here is that referees are not following through and

463
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 2: taking away points the lads was the Leeds was warned

464
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Speaker 2: early in Rounte at the start of round two by

465
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Speaker 2: Hi Refree Herbding before it started with coach knick Stick

466
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Speaker 2: there to just sort of say, look, this is not

467
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Speaker 2: gonna be allowed. You want to do this, which they

468
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 2: would talk on the air like who would do that?

469
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 2: Bisbee was saying, he's probably right, either do a fist

470
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: or whatever, but this is not going to work. Within

471
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Speaker 2: the next minute, he poked Vittori in the eye and

472
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 2: was given a softer warning, was given a if this

473
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: happens again, then we're going to be talking about it.

474
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 2: There was never a threat of a point in there,

475
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 2: and it wasn't the last time that there were fouls

476
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Speaker 2: between these two. Luke this and I think this is

477
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 2: a line, by the way, with Steve Willis's performance in

478
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 2: the Gavonte Davis fight. I think it's an overall group

479
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: think by the commissions that they don't want to become

480
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: part of the story. But by not becoming part of

481
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 2: the story, they're becoming part of the story. This cannot

482
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Speaker 2: be where there's eight or nine referees that are all

483
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Speaker 2: getting it wrong. This seems institutionalized, doesn't.

484
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Speaker 1: It though top to this point, long island, look top

485
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Speaker 1: of your head. Don't give me a random one. I'm

486
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Speaker 1: going to ask in a very specific way, what was

487
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 1: the last time you can remember a referee in MMA

488
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Speaker 1: taking a point from a fighter or an ipoke? Fuck man,

489
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: right right?

490
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, but wait back to BC's point of

491
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Speaker 4: the group think thing. Yeah, I believe it was the

492
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Speaker 4: Ryan Span fighter. I could be wrong. There was something

493
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 4: like three or four foules. It was Mark Smith refereeing. Yes,

494
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Speaker 4: I didn't even consider taking a point enough three or

495
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Speaker 4: four fouls.

496
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Speaker 1: Its just ridiculous. I understand that this is not a

497
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Speaker 1: UFC issue. This is a commission. The commission issue has

498
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: nothing to do with UFC. I understand that if you

499
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: look at the by law, it is not legal to

500
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: poke another fighter in the eye, and I'm here to

501
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 1: tell you that, practically speaking, it is entirely legal. Low

502
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: blows are the same thing, but it is entirely Somebody

503
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: show me the proof that it. If you didn't know

504
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: anything about MMA and you just watched it, how would

505
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: you ever know other than the fact that the referee

506
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: might say something but there's no penalty, like nothing, How

507
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: would you ever know that it was against the rules.

508
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: You might stop it because it's like an accidental thing

509
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 1: where you ever watched two teams in South America play

510
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 1: soccer and then like a dog shows up on the

511
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: field and they have to pause the game, and ye

512
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: get it. That's how they treat ipokes. It is absolutely

513
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: illegal on paper. It is practically one hundred percent legal,

514
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: to the point you can do it multiple times in

515
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: a fight BC. You can even do it multiple times

516
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Speaker 1: to your opponent in a round.

517
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: Yes, this is Mendel Cops third as Midel Coops scraped

518
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: the eyes of his opponent to set up the finish.

519
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: Not to mention the suhudo fight. Not to mention when

520
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: wide men blinded Bruno Silva, and on and on. It's

521
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: it's going to be weapons. So I want to say,

522
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: what's the thing that's going to finally make him the change?

523
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: And it's going to be a serious injury to an

524
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 2: elite fighter that can't fight anymore because of it. But

525
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: is there anything else that could make it change? What

526
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 2: about if teams start actually weaponizing this. Meaning it's the

527
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 2: end of the second round, you realize you're on your

528
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: way to being down two in a three round fight.

529
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: What's the first thing you're going to do? Kick him

530
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: in the nuts to get a stoppage so you can

531
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: get some rest time and regroup and start to build

532
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 2: the momentum in your favor through following. And I know

533
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: that we romanticize guys like Bernard Hopkins in boxing who

534
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: have almost almost like a John Stocked in the NBA.

535
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: They they they've learned how to weaponize cheating in such

536
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: a smart way that we applaud them for it. Right,

537
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: same thing. I guess maybe when you look back at

538
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 2: the pitchers in the seventies and eighties, something illegal and

539
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: you know, something illegal that they can use to pitch,

540
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 2: and we'd be like, well, they're smarter than everybody else.

541
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: If you're not cheating, you're not trying. But dude, it's

542
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: going to set up strategic cheating on a regular if

543
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: this doesn't get get snipped. And for as much as

544
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: we rail UFC, this not a UFC issue, I would

545
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: like Dana to be more vocal about it against it

546
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: because I feel like his voice can lead to change

547
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: because we do assume at the end of the day

548
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: that a lot of these state commissions can be swayed

549
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: by money or they are the possibility of when I

550
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: don't mean direct bribes, I mean we got to keep

551
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 2: this promoters happy so they bring their big fights to

552
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: our state. If you don't think that's part of m

553
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: A right now, you're not reading the MMA draw about

554
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: all these government contracts and how these cities are like

555
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: we need you TKO come bring your whole circus, the

556
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: whole weekend. We got to drive up tourism and all

557
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: that stuff. But it's it's bats. But in this case,

558
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: do you think this affected Victoria enough to say that

559
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 2: if those fouls hadn't happened, maybe it's a different fight.

560
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Speaker 1: Even if you had taken a point based on the

561
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: way the judges went, it still would have been it

562
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: still would have been delete say that one. So it

563
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't have affected the outcome per se, at least in

564
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: this particular case. Although again hard to know what would

565
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: happen if you take a foul and blah blah blah.

566
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: But I just feel like this is this is I

567
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: feel like I remember when Anthony Rest in Peace, Rumble

568
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: Johnson got poked in the eye. Here we go, here's

569
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: how here's how fucking old I am. By Kevin the

570
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: fire Burns, right, he gets poked in the eye and

571
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: it's a terrible fucking I poke. They have to. I

572
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: believe they did a rematch and then you know, at

573
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: that point Rumble dispatched him viciously. But like, the point

574
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is, can you look up when

575
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: that when their first fight was Long Island Luke the first,

576
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: the first Kevin the fire Burns and uh and Rumble

577
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: Johnson fight. The what I'm trying to make is we

578
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: have literally, at best, made no improvements at all since then.

579
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: And this is the part, like, again, you're right, it's

580
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: not a UFC issue. You're one hundred percent right, it's

581
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: a commission issue.

582
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 5: At the July of two thousand and eight.

583
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Speaker 1: This is what the fuck I'm talking about, dude, We're

584
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we're almost twenty years later. What the hell

585
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: is happening? But this is what I wanted to say.

586
00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: I remember after every single UFC event when Dana White

587
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: wanted Steve Mazagatti gone, and he would go to fucking

588
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: town on him. And I'm not even saying that's necessarily fair.

589
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: Mazagatti was not a good ref I don't know if

590
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: he deserved exactly got.

591
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: It hard to who Mario Yamasaki.

592
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: But although although his brother still does reffing when they

593
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: go back to the to.

594
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: This, he brought this into our lives.

595
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 1: Yeah he did the heart, he does that too. But

596
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: what I wanted to say was I remember what an

597
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: effect it had when Dana did it accumulatively. I guess

598
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: I don't understand why he doesn't do it, other than

599
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: does he just not consider it to be a problem.

600
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: Do the people in charge, like we're here talking about

601
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: it like it's a huge problem. I don't know what

602
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: the evidence is that the people in charge consider it

603
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: a problem and that by itself is a problem.

604
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: I think that they just want to not be part

605
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 2: of our shows. The next Monday of like, oh my god,

606
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: did you see her being took away a point? If

607
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: he wouldn't have taken that away, this fight could have

608
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 2: been whatever. But they're getting the opposite. So let's hear

609
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: Roman Duldese speak upon uh something that he seemed to

610
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: have benefited from these iPods.

611
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 7: I didn't try, you know, if there was something, I

612
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 7: didn't remember it quite good because I wasn't trying to

613
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 7: do this. If it's happened, it's happened accidentally, and I

614
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 7: didn't want to do it to damage him or do

615
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 7: something wrong to his eyes.

616
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, because I know a lot of times when it's

617
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 8: hand fighting, you know, you're reaching out, You're trying to

618
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 8: either paw at them, You're trying to either stop theirs.

619
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: Strike before it comes.

620
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 8: It's just unfortunately when you do that, your fingers, your

621
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 8: fingers are extended out.

622
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: There.

623
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 8: Is there any way to do that, you think with

624
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 8: maybe a closed fist or is it just something you

625
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 8: have to kind of just actively tell yourself going in there.

626
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 7: I was actively telling me after a couple of times

627
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 7: when Judge told me, I was sometimes you can't see

628
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 7: like I was doing like this in the middle of

629
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 7: fight because I was, oh, I need to close them,

630
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 7: and I was doing like that because I'm not trying

631
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 7: to do it and it happens.

632
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't think he's doing it

633
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: on purpose. The structure of how you do it, they've

634
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: got to teach them, just like in the NFL tackling

635
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: below the tackling shoulders down. It's got to start, and

636
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: the only way to do that is policing it. So

637
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: that's that's that's that right there. We got some big

638
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: callouts though from Roman de Ledze, some big ones. We're

639
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: talking about former champions, Robert Whitaker, Israel out of Sonia

640
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: and if you look at this fight coming in the rankings,

641
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 2: it is time for Deleeda, now on a three fight

642
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: win streak, to really find out where he is. Let's

643
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: hear Roman talking about the future.

644
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 7: All these guys need opponent, they need to fight somebody.

645
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 7: They need to have some opponent. I don't care if

646
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 7: somebody else will be from top five.

647
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm also ready.

648
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 7: I don't really care much. But I said more realistic

649
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 7: fights because both of them are from loose. They lost,

650
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Speaker 7: and that's why I said, I don't really care who

651
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Speaker 7: will be from top five.

652
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: It's more just trying to get into that top.

653
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Speaker 7: Five realistic, being realistic. Who is ready and who need

654
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 7: opponent and who because there are some guys who really

655
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 7: deserve to fight for title, like Kyu you mentioned like

656
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 7: in Mamo of also like there are a couple of guys,

657
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 7: good guys, and they are waiting there in the line

658
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 7: if they will give me the guys. I'm ready anyway.

659
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 7: But there are more realistic fights, and that's why I

660
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 7: said these names Both of these guys have good name.

661
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 7: More important for me the name of course, Adisania maybe

662
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 7: was more on the top, and it will be better

663
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 7: for me for my name to fight Adisania. But we

664
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Speaker 7: tak it also was champion. He's well skilled, very good fighter.

665
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 7: It's not about like about personality or something. It's all

666
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 7: about name and quality of opponent, and Adisania will of

667
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 7: course will be better if we're telling about.

668
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: More loud name. Of course.

669
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: Well look, let me update you on the rating is

670
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: heading into this fight. The leads was eleven, victory was eight.

671
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: Okay.

672
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: The champion, of course is DDP. Number one is im Evove,

673
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: he'll number two is Strickland. Three is the man who

674
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: we think is getting next, hamzat Chamaiev and then four

675
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: and five are Adisania and Whittaker. So if de Leeds

676
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: a number eleven beats number eight and he's looking for that,

677
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: I really feel like either of those names are kind

678
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: of perfect right now.

679
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: So just when quick clarification, you're basically right, Deleds is

680
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: sitting at twelve as we currently speak, that obviously eleven,

681
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: but you know, basically right there, and you're right, victory

682
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: sitting at eight. So Let's assume that he bumps to eight.

683
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: What is he and Whittaker four and five?

684
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: They don't have fights right now? They don't, so is

685
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: he's coming off losing streaks? Yep, Witker is coming off

686
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: of uh what was his last outing? So he loses

687
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: Tom he needs.

688
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: A research and by the way, that was a bad stoppage.

689
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a good stoppage, but a bad loss.

690
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: And is he got smoked by.

691
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: So I'm down with either of those.

692
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: MMA.

693
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: Twitter seems to think that Delija is going to be

694
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: headlining a five rounder against Strickland and the Apex coming up.

695
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: That's also possibly what is the right fight.

696
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: To reward him for three in a row and a

697
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: victory over a top ten hand.

698
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: You know, listen, if if he can get the easy

699
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: fight in the Whittaker fight, he's smart to call him out.

700
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: There's certainly nothing wrong with trying to call your shot.

701
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: The problem is, and he's right, Kyle Bohalio is sitting

702
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: at six, but he might have business inside the top five.

703
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. And I don't think it's a bad

704
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: fight necessarily, but it's not super sexy. Cannon Ear just

705
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: had a great wines and he's sitting at seven so

706
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: and they haven't fought, right, and I don't not recently, right.

707
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: They have not fought. But I was saying, that's the

708
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: fight to make, dude, they are going to headline the

709
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 4: Apex like UFC Vegas one.

710
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: I just like the fight. Though, I do like the fight.

711
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: Like I said, I just feel like you couldn't go

712
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: wrong with easier Whittaker. Certainly again, Bohalio's probably got a

713
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: date up there. But the Cannoneer factor, cannon Ear, you know,

714
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: that was a tough ass win in his last fight.

715
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: This was a tough win for him in this fight.

716
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: I just feel like they're made for each other for

717
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: the especially if it's gonna be an APEX, right. The hard question.

718
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: Rank those possible three opponents Whittaker, Adasania, Cannoneer in terms

719
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: of difficulty for Roman or just in terms of like

720
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: could he beat them, because I'm not sure yet on

721
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: Cannonear and even though Whitaker and Asiani are coming off

722
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: of defeats, I just don't think the leads is on

723
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: their level.

724
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: I think all of them are took pretty tough. I'd

725
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: probably say Whittaker is the toughest because he's just gonna

726
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: be a little harder to hit. Is He appears a

727
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: little bit more hitable these days, unfortunately.

728
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: But Cannoneer was willing to brawl.

729
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other part too. Cannoneers can be hit,

730
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: but he'll just stand in the pocket with you. And

731
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: what were you gonna say?

732
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say.

733
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 5: Cannon is also forty plus, so he's got to.

734
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: Be the most Yeah, but does he look forty plus?

735
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter he looks no, No, what I'm saying.

736
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like like bodybuilding, I mean like when he performs,

737
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: does he look forty plus? You know what I mean? Right?

738
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: But if we're comparing to Whittaker or is he, Cannoneer

739
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: is definitely the easier fight for sure.

740
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 2: Sure, and the style wise if he brawls. But if

741
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: they brawl that.

742
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, styles make fights like That's all

743
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean. In some ways it's an easier fight. In

744
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: some ways it's slight depending on how he takes it,

745
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: a bit of a riskier fight point taken. I mean,

746
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: Cannoneer has not had the career that either Whittaker or

747
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: is He has had. But I just feel like cannoneer

748
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: the leeds A. That's that's where we're headed on all

749
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: this stuff, all right.

750
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: I think where we're headed in Topic number two is

751
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: finding if there's more room and Luke's under pants for

752
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: new fighters. Here we go. Topic number two is your

753
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: UFC Apex undercard from the fight night one oh four

754
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: over the weekend. Let's just skip right down to the

755
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 2: fighter that Luke Thomas told you to watch for and

756
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: told you how his wife would have pronounced his name.

757
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: This is Kevin Vayaishos.

758
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: Not bad, that's not as close.

759
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: First round TKO stoppage over Choi sung Wu, twenty three

760
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: years old from Argentina, So you know he's here to

761
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: be a gaucho, steal your girl and knock you out. Luke,

762
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: just how impressive was this? And if not him, we'll

763
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: get to who else impressed you on a card that

764
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: did produce nine finishes across the board. But let's stay

765
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: with Argentina's Vashos That cracking overhand, right? And is this

766
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: his second UFC fight?

767
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: First first, because second Contender series Fighten series.

768
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: Was before that, Like, are we ready to kind of

769
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: catapult a guy like this?

770
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: Man? I just gotta say I so I mentioned it before,

771
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: or MMA on point put out a video talking about

772
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: how much older everyone in the UFC is getting, in

773
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: particular to champions, but not exclusively them, right, and we

774
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: talked about this with the lightweight guys. It's just a

775
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: fact that lightweight contenders and lightweight champions are now older

776
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: than they ever have been. This is not a lightweight fight,

777
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: this is a featherweight contest. But the point I'm trying

778
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: to make is that's true more broadly anyway. So the

779
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: reason I bring that up is when I see a

780
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: twenty three year old kid who is still raw and

781
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: at times a little reckless, but clearly has some real

782
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: awesome ability, and in particular the ability we just talked

783
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: about what victory doesn't have the ability to turn defense

784
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: into offense, to slip and counter, which is exactly what

785
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: he did. Now. To be clear, CHOI was coming into

786
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: this fight with a heavy heart. His mother apparently had

787
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: passed away a month ago. God only knows how much

788
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: that could have been a real obstacle to performance here.

789
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: And so you know we are dealing with someone in again.

790
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: You can say by a host, you can say, as

791
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: my wife would say, by Jay hoss or you can

792
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: do like the Argentines would say, which is chejos.

793
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: I have to ask Martine Botter.

794
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: So did you hear it? By the way, I have

795
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: to say this, Brendan Fitzgerald, did you hear how he

796
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: pronounced it?

797
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: I know, but I saw your tweet praise yes, so I.

798
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: Don't understand this. They're the only ones who do this,

799
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: the Argentines. The double l. In Spanish, you most commonly

800
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: hear it as a why an English why so vye host.

801
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: That's how you commonly hear it. In places like in Colombia,

802
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: they'll put a j on it, like an English day,

803
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: so it's about jejos. The Argentines make it a shah sound,

804
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: so they say by sche host. They don't say metagine,

805
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: they say medicine. Okay, it looks like medelean medellan, but

806
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: it's metagene or Columbia's metagine to Argentines' medachine. I'm pointing

807
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: out some Mike Krzyzewski bullshit right there. Okay, I'm telling

808
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: you Brendan Fitzgerald had it exactly right. Very very impressive

809
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: level of homework. I like, by the way, but here's

810
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: what I want to say about uh vaejos you, how

811
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: do you want to pronounce it? A little bit of

812
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: taporia there, little bit little.

813
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: Bit wait wait wait wait wait, a little bit of

814
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: aggressive aggressive, the same TikTok.

815
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 5: I saw of the comparisons to them too.

816
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: I saw them going not seeing and I have not

817
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: seen anything.

818
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: Now.

819
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 5: I feel like everyone's saying that.

820
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, there's a TikTok about I swear,

821
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: I swear an Instagram.

822
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: Okay before he waxes bit poetic Long Islandluke, You're gonna

823
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: have to be the bonus patrol here to keep this

824
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: man in a healthy public state that esque. Did you

825
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: feel did you feel flashes of sex that came?

826
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: He looked really good. I'm not going to take anything

827
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: away from the guy, but we have to factor in

828
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 4: song will Troy he was finished in three of his

829
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 4: last four.

830
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: I understand, I understand. Listen, this was a UFC debut,

831
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: no more, no less.

832
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: All agree.

833
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: And the point is, and I said it at the

834
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: top of the question which you asked, which was is

835
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: he still raw and you know, somewhat reckless and obviously

836
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: green generally even though he's got like fifteen fights. But

837
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: you in terms of legitimate tough competition pushing him deep

838
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: into rounds. He's very, very green. There's a lot that's

839
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: unknown about him, but some of the way in which

840
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: he sets up attacks, some of the attacks he goes

841
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: for these overhand blitzer in particular wrestler, I think he

842
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: has some, but the striking is what I was most

843
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: impressed by. And of course he's miles away from Ilio

844
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: to Poria, of course, but there's a you can tell.

845
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to point out is these transcendent figures,

846
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: and it was you know McGregor before him and everyone else,

847
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: but you're seeing this evolution of more guys electing to

848
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: be pocket boxers, in particular some of the shorter guys

849
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: who have to make up that reach because they have

850
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: to get closer to their opponent, the ones who are athletic,

851
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: who have natural ability, and though obviously you know he

852
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: works really hard as well, like this gentleman from Argentina.

853
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: It's creates for a very exciting prospect. And I do

854
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: think he is borrowing not explicitly from Tuporia, but again

855
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: that long lineage of pocket boxers who have really revolutionized

856
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: that kind of style of late.

857
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 2: Don't forget the original pocket Rocket pocket boxer Tyson Griffin,

858
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: who I used to love.

859
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: Tyson Griffin can remember well he beat Favor. He did.

860
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: Also remember Frankie Edgar made his UFC debut against Tyson

861
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: Griffin and no one knew who Frankie Edgar was, and

862
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: people were like, oh, Tyson Griffin is gonna run the

863
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: fucking table on this guy. And then Frankieger gave him

864
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: the business.

865
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: Look Kevin, kevinjj uh. He even had Fiona. Is that

866
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: his teammate or just country woman Fiona meaning Eileen Perez

867
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: who's on a streak right, I do not know if

868
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: they're She was cage side and throwing shirts into the

869
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: ring celebrating. So if he's got a little bit of

870
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: that spirit in him, then then we can be having

871
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: some fun in the future. Here at featherweight. He also

872
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: seems to be a good guy. Here's kevinj uh okay

873
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: being really nice here. So Damon Martin would tweet out

874
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: that Kevin va Hosts uses his post fan interview to

875
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: advocate for Song Wo Choi to get another fight in

876
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: the U after he still showed up to compete despite

877
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: suffering the personal loss prior to the event. What a

878
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: freaking class act. Kevin would quot tweet that and say

879
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: Choy lost his mother less than a month ago and

880
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: still fought me. My heartaches for him. I really hope

881
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: he gets another shot in the UFC. That's a good

882
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: guy move, and I don't think we see enough of

883
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: that in this non bousheeto cage. Okay, you know what

884
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying. There used to be about that chi at right.

885
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was waiting, you know, I mean, you know,

886
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm more commonly expecting it's one to call e chilther slurs.

887
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: But yes, not this time thing.

888
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 2: This time at all. But vay Jos would also talk

889
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: about what he wants here and moving forward, how quickly

890
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: they want to throw him in there with some big names.

891
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 9: Nestley, I'm on a cloud right now, Like truly, I

892
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 9: can't remember, like what hand I hit him with, how

893
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 9: I knocked him out, like what round it even ended in.

894
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 9: It just all like surreal and I sacrificed so much.

895
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 9: I went to Brazil for five weeks to do my

896
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 9: camp and no, I'm just I'm on my cloud right now. Yeah,

897
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 9: there's definitely one person on my mind. We're at different

898
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 9: stages in our career. Right now, he's uh, he's on

899
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 9: the five fight win streak. That man's name is John Silva.

900
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 9: I want to fight him because I want to fight

901
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 9: the best. I want my rematch with him, and I'm

902
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 9: gonna be the one that takes the title from him.

903
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 9: So whatever comes, I'm going to eat here.

904
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: That's good.

905
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 9: And then when I get back to Argentina, dude, yeah.

906
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: Talking about talking about eating Argentinian foods.

907
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: Kevin Vaichios versus Gian Silva.

908
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: So they thought already this is is one of these Yeah,

909
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's a weird one that you are

910
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: doing that. Uh, they thought already Silver won. But remember

911
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: but remember Kevin was twenty one at the time. That's

912
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: what I mean.

913
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: He's so confederation is this No?

914
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: No, they were in Contender series.

915
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 4: Oh right, the series won a round on all three generals. Y. Yeah,

916
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: so its close.

917
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: So the point I'm trying to make is it was

918
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: he's this is my whole point. Everything's coming to him

919
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: a little bit early. He's a little bit raw, he's

920
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: very young, but he's got some possibilities. And what I

921
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: love is he's right. Silva is moving on ahead Silva's

922
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: gonna be fighting obviously Bresce Mitchell UFC three fourteen. But

923
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: I like how he's got this long range kind of

924
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: target he's getting after and if he keeps moving up

925
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: by the time that they do fight again, dude, it's

926
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be electric. I can't wait for it.

927
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: I forgot that they had fought in the Contender series.

928
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: That was part of our storyline coming in for these

929
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: two fights. But uh, interesting to that rematch will be.

930
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: It'll be It'll have a Mahachev saik In type of

931
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: backstory to it.

932
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: And I like those a little bit.

933
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: That's fight early in your career, you know which which Also,

934
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: we just saw a middleweight with Fluffy and the other guy.

935
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: I remember that fight. It was sloppy, but it was

936
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: a friend Allen.

937
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: Yes, although he was as we talked about, Fluffy was

938
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: messed up.

939
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: Yes, that is true.

940
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: See what about you? Who did you do think stood out?

941
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: I did enjoy this card long. I'll look called it great.

942
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: I think it's a little strong.

943
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: That felt a little bit.

944
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 4: There was a good card.

945
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: It was a good card. I agree with that.

946
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about cheety uh and Jikwani against Elaizu

947
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: Zeleski Dosanto's that's a mouthful. He gets the second round finish.

948
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: It was pretty pretty gnarly, pretty brutal, but it felt

949
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: like a escalation of the run he's been on.

950
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: He did Misswaight. We do have to account that he

951
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: did Misswaight, and not terribly, but he did miss it.

952
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: He wanted to cut his hair. That wouldn't let him.

953
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: I thought he looked great all things considered. It was

954
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: still it was back and forth early, like, yeah, he's

955
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: probably he's been kind of competing, you know, in the

956
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: shadows of the UFC in a weird way, and I

957
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: think now he's kind of earned maybe like a pay

958
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: per view slot or some kind of opportunity on a

959
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: bigger card against a bigger name. He's sort of proven

960
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: at this point he can do well. I mean, I'm

961
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: not sure there are some limits to it, but in

962
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: any event, this was a great performance and building off

963
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: of it I think is something he's earned.

964
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: We were looking out for demand black share against Cody

965
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: Gibson here at Vandamwaight.

966
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: You know what, Cody Gibson fought pretty good.

967
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: Well, He's you could see he's like in the best

968
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: shape of his careers, got new tattoos like he's going

969
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: for it, and he went for here. But he did

970
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: get submitted, and it wasn't after it was after having

971
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: a lot of success too. So how big of a

972
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: win for black Sheear? And as I think we're inciting

973
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: insinuating here that this isn't a it's not gonna and

974
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: Gibson's run, you know, he's he's still here.

975
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: I thought, Gibson again credit to demon Black Scheer. He

976
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: was the sharper guy down the stretch. And also it

977
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: looked to MEBC when they were tying up, there was

978
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: a clear physical advantage for black Sheear. He just looked

979
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: to be stronger, more athletic. And that's okay, But dude,

980
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: Cody Gibson is such an interesting story. He went to

981
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: the UFC a lot I did. I think he fought

982
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: Manny Gamborian back in the day, and you know had

983
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: to kind of you know, muddle around on too.

984
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 10: Yeah.

985
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he had to kind of muddle around in

986
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: the regional scene. He was a history teacher. I think

987
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: he still might be in high school and now he's

988
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: back in the UFC, and I think he's very much

989
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: cleaned up his technique. He's much more well rounded, but

990
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: he's a little bit older at thirty seven years of age,

991
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: I believe, and Black Scheer is quite skilled and as

992
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: I mentioned, not just very skilled, but I thought there

993
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: was a real physical difference between them. So I don't

994
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: think there's really any shit in this performance by Cody Gibson.

995
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: But definitely another great win for Demon Black share two

996
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: in a row.

997
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: Now for Alexander Hernandez, a guy at lightweight who we

998
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: always think is better than the amount of losses that

999
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: he has, but he can make mistakes. He can be

1000
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: hit or miss. How did you score that competitive fight

1001
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: with Kurt Holiba?

1002
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 4: I had a twenty nine to twenty eight for Hernandez. Yeah,

1003
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 4: thirty twenty seven is absurd, thirty twenty seven.

1004
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: It was a very competitive fight.

1005
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought there were definitely Here's what I thought.

1006
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: I thought Hollibah was better through big portions. Takedowns failed him, right,

1007
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: he couldn't he couldn't defend the takedown, and underneath he

1008
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: just couldn't necessarily do a whole lot. And I'm gonna

1009
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: say this, there was punctuated moments where you could definitely

1010
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: see Hernandez surge back like reclaim the round. So for

1011
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: that reason, I actually thought it was a pretty good

1012
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: performance from Hernandez. I did.

1013
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: I thought it was mature. Yes, he's always in like

1014
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: third team, all body shape.

1015
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: He just had oh my god. But he just had

1016
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: like the weirdest UFC start where he he just kao's

1017
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: Darry Yush he beats oam and you're like, holy fuck,

1018
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: this guy came out. Yeah, and then he called he

1019
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: called Don Seroni day drinking Don, and it was bad

1020
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: news after that. But to the point he this is

1021
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: a guy who you can tell has been in the

1022
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: gym working and at least it paid off.

1023
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: Here are we allowed to shout out Waldough Corteza Costa

1024
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: on four straight heavyweight wins. That was not a great

1025
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: against Ryan Span who he.

1026
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: Didn't look great. No, he didn'tok great, he didn't look great.

1027
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: Look and he went down weird on that. I know

1028
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: it was. The replay would show it was a short

1029
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: shot that turned his chin. Yeah, but when you're watching

1030
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: in real time, it kind of looked like he just feed.

1031
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: Failed for Riegoti. Yeah, it didn't go great and he

1032
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: did get beat hard on the ground. Yeah, I thought,

1033
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to have a speed advantage,

1034
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: and he looked slower than did Did you feel he

1035
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: looked faster? He looked faster than me at all?

1036
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: Such, this is such a little level of combinations, like

1037
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: that's where the heavyweight division is. That it's where it's

1038
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: usually at. To be fair, they there's not a lot

1039
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: of consistency there, bandam Waite. Carlos Vera did get a

1040
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: bonus afterwards for that first round submission.

1041
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: To fifty BJJ at a false Church, Virginia.

1042
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: Carl was it Josiah's musasa? Is that how he says

1043
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: the point?

1044
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: Yes, he got hit with the fade away and then

1045
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: the he comes over the top when you're not looking,

1046
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: and then he took his back and then he had

1047
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: to switch the grip a couple times, but he got

1048
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: it on the joke did you do the hole?

1049
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 2: He's Brazilian, so I'm gonna bet him by submission He's Ecuadorian. Actually, wow,

1050
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 2: I take that back.

1051
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 4: He looked like shit, I gotta say until he got

1052
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 4: that finished. Also, biggest dog on the card. He was

1053
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: like plus five fifty cash.

1054
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he showed up. When I'll say this to

1055
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: finish off with that smooth ass back take. That was nice.

1056
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: That was real slick.

1057
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: His ground game is no joke, but he kept pulling guard.

1058
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 4: I don't know he has Ryan Holme.

1059
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: Dude. Look the fifty to fifty guys, they believe in

1060
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: the guard, you know what I mean? And I understand that.

1061
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: You know.

1062
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about these ladies that kicked off

1063
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: the card, not necessarily mess maybe about what this wind

1064
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 2: does for them. But it was interesting to see back

1065
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: to back first round stoppages in women's fights. At Flyway,

1066
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: Carly Judice knocked out Uniski du Ben and a lot

1067
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: of people were dming me Unieski picks as if I

1068
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: keep some like collection of women on the scale, you

1069
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm like, yoh, like, can we

1070
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: get some? No? Can we can we treat these with dignity.

1071
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: Then at Bantam Way, Priscilia Cachiera uh gave it to

1072
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: Josie an Nunis and that was a smoke. Absolutely, It's

1073
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: rare one punch.

1074
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: I mean, Jessicon Drodge has given us a few of those,

1075
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: but it's rare to see one punch KOs in women's mma. Again.

1076
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: I've been down on Women's MMA. I was very happy

1077
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: to see this. Congratulations to all the ladies. They performed great.

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Speaker 2: So this Fight Night card, which we sat on paper

1079
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: coming in to be very fair, we said the same

1080
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: kind of jerks question we say a lot. Is this

1081
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: actually the worst of the of the X finite cards

1082
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: in terms of, you know, amount of non Wikipedia page entrance,

1083
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: spillover of Dana White contender series and did we need

1084
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: this main event main event? All those questions, even though

1085
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: I enjoyed for most of this card and the main event. Well,

1086
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: UFC took that criticism and when they had a hot

1087
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: streak here decided to go to social media and dunk

1088
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: on the haters by saying fight Nights at the Apex

1089
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: are so boring with the capitalized in lowercase, and then

1090
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: it says make that nine finishes on the night. I

1091
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: did enjoy the nine finishes. This was a great TV card.

1092
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: There were great TV fighters on it, and there was

1093
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: some fun back and forth. Not super high level, but

1094
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: some bangers, right, Not a ton to talk about in

1095
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: future title contention, but at least you had a breakout

1096
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: performance from the Argentine. At least you had a couple

1097
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: of things going on here, But I don't think that

1098
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: has the impact and grattis that they think it does.

1099
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the issue with their tweet?

1100
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to do a lot more to fix

1101
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: the actual issue, right you know what I mean? Like

1102
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: any card you roll out could have that ability to

1103
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: be fireworks, and that's kind of why we tune in

1104
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: even when if we're getting angry here. And I'm not

1105
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 2: saying don't celebrate that, but that was a pointed look

1106
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: back at the opposition or the opposing viewpoint, whether it's fans,

1107
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: whether it's media, whether it's whomever. As almost like a fu,

1108
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: how do you like me? Now? It's like the card

1109
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: is still the card it was on paper. I just

1110
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: want them to know that, right.

1111
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: Well, I would have a couple of different responses. I

1112
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: think the first thing I would say is I looked

1113
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: at some of the responses to that tweet, and a

1114
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 1: lot of people were like, yeah, great, but these guys

1115
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: should have been competing in front of a large crowd,

1116
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: not in front of you know, five donks sweep in

1117
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: a room. That was the first thing I saw a

1118
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: lot of people complaining about. Now, is it true that

1119
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: we were probably let me. Here's the reality. The UFC

1120
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: has so much resources that even their overflow can at

1121
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: times perform quite well. And this was one of those cases.

1122
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: And we were probably a little too negative heading into

1123
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: it about its potential for fun. There always is that

1124
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: you have to take that seriously. By the way, sometimes

1125
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: these turn out to be like god awful. I mean,

1126
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: they can be both, but that's the point. It could

1127
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: also be really fun and you got something really fun,

1128
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: but it seem to come out and be like there's

1129
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: no issue, see right. But what the thing I would

1130
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: say is there was the guys at Topology were tweeting

1131
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: about like which fight nights and which pay per views

1132
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: this year have yielded the most live traffic and interest,

1133
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: and of all the fight nights this year, this one

1134
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: was the lowest. And the point you have to understand

1135
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: is when you the UFC has created a tier of content,

1136
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: It's not like these fighters aren't necessarily some aren't that great,

1137
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: but these ones, you know, there were many good ones

1138
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: on there. It's not that these fights don't have a place.

1139
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: The question is do they belong with a premium brand

1140
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: that is just creating a tier of overflow content so

1141
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: they can get more money from ESPN, is that what

1142
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: they should really be doing. And of course we've been

1143
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: over this debate. Some people want that, some people don't.

1144
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: I understand. However, the proof is in, as Floyd might say,

1145
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: the putting, which is to say, the way in which

1146
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: you can judge a card is not by how good

1147
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: it actually is.

1148
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 2: In the end.

1149
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: You can try that, but what you have to look

1150
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: at is what are people doing with their time? And

1151
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: when I worked at MMA Fighting, we would have this.

1152
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: I talked about it a million times. Now, this proprietary

1153
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: software is everywhere, but at the time it was quite

1154
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: novel called chart Beat, and you could see who was

1155
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: coming into your site by the second and where they're

1156
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: going and how much they are paying attention. And that

1157
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: was the first lesson I got b seen and I

1158
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, people do not watch Bellator. Holy shit.

1159
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: You know, this card, as the guys a Typology said,

1160
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: had the lowest amount of traffic of any of the

1161
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: fight nights this year. If you create overflow content as

1162
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: the premiere brand, where you're just throwing fights together, throwing

1163
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: them in the apex, yeah, did it end up turning

1164
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: out pretty good? Credit to the fighters. It actually are

1165
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: not pretecting to the argument. But the point is is

1166
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: no one was there to watch it, either in person

1167
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: or online because there was no interest about it.

1168
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: That collections are so low at this point, it's where

1169
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: we're at, So that just kind of showed it. Like

1170
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: this is always the question I have. Do the matchmakers

1171
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: and the people that do this do they not know

1172
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: that it's gone down? Are they hand strung by the

1173
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 2: budget and what they're told and they can't tell us?

1174
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: Or do we not know how hard it is to

1175
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: actually do that job and this is the best they

1176
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: can do? Because I think if we're going to be

1177
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: the ones that have been complaining, we're looking at it

1178
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 2: as they're hamstringing them. They only have limit resources because

1179
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: there's so many dates to fill. That's probably the dictation

1180
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: of this direction right of downhill. You mix it with

1181
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: the Dana Wikeetender series. Nobody has Wikipedia page blah blah blah.

1182
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: Where Fight Night's ever deep is also another argument I get,

1183
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: But this argument extends to pay per view main cards too,

1184
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: By the way, right, it's not just the bottom of

1185
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: APEX ones. Do you think the matchmakers if it was

1186
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: that like an opinion of them like like, nothing is wrong.

1187
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 2: You guys are the ones that have the bad expectation.

1188
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: Too, or who I'm gonna give them a halfway break.

1189
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: We were wrong and we need to be careful about this,

1190
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: which is people are always like, oh, it's the ones

1191
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: that people don't pay attention to that are always good.

1192
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: That is not true. I can't tell you how many

1193
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: times people are like, I'm not going to pay attention

1194
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: to it, and then it also was bad. I mean

1195
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: that happens all the time. But as I said before,

1196
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: the UFC does have a point that if you are

1197
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 1: a hardcore fan and you do care about just turning

1198
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: it on, it is quite possible week to week you

1199
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: could get a series of cards and fights from the

1200
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: Apex itself that can very much over deliver. We really

1201
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: have to take that seriously, and we discounted that. I'm

1202
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: also I.

1203
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: Don't think we're trying to say let's never use the

1204
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: Apex again, or that there's no value. There is an intimate,

1205
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 2: banger TV friendly value. There just not as many.

1206
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: But to the point you raised, these fights should have

1207
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: been in front of an audience, and more to the point,

1208
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: there was no promotion for this at all. It's just

1209
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: overflow content, and we're not the ones who treat it

1210
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: like overflow. They're the ones who treat it like overflow.

1211
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: We take the cues from them. That's it.

1212
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: That's a fair point. That does kind of transition us

1213
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: into topic number three and sort of the larger debates

1214
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: we've been having of late about the UFC and and

1215
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 2: you know, we did that last Friday in a very

1216
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: extended listen to the fans and try to find out

1217
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: if maybe we're not looking at things the right way

1218
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 2: about where the state of UFC is at this moment,

1219
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 2: but where the state of the UFC's future broadcasting deal

1220
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: is getting interesting, according to a New York Post reporter

1221
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: who said in a recent ny Post podcast that for

1222
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: that media outlet, he's hearing not only is the UFC

1223
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: likely to sign with Netflix and their next TV deal,

1224
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: but that ESPN and UFC might be having a fractured relationship,

1225
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: with ESPN unwilling to air UFC events on their linear

1226
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: Challenge channels and instead just putting it on the Plus

1227
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: and also pay per view bys being quote way down,

1228
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 2: how much do we believe that this even if it's

1229
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: true or false? Here, but this is a major, major

1230
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: report in a lot of ways, how much do we

1231
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: believe it's true? But edged with that is does it

1232
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: even matter in the.

1233
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: So if you haven't seen this podcast, I highly encourage

1234
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: you to do so.

1235
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 2: And does this make shop right for that conspiracy theory?

1236
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: What was his conspiracy theory.

1237
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: That ESPN was purposely messing with the system to make

1238
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: UFC look bad to gain leverage in their window of negotiation, right?

1239
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 2: And then maybe if this report is true, then then

1240
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: there's been an apathy built up where they're just so so.

1241
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a bunch of takeaways. I think the

1242
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: three biggest takeaways I had from that podcas and I'm

1243
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: gonna assess the question that you asked. The first one

1244
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: was that he's surmised and this is several people have

1245
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: done this, but he surmised that the UFC is likely

1246
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: to end to put Netflix, which would make a lot

1247
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: of sense obviously. Two that ESPN doesn't have the same

1248
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: kind of loving feeling for UFC content. And one of

1249
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: the ways you can tell that is because they don't

1250
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: typically air as much as they used to on ABC

1251
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: or ESPN Linear Linear all the linear channels enters not

1252
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: on they're just giving them to the plus and then

1253
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: three that pay per view buys are down. Let me

1254
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: say this, it seems to me that one we haven't

1255
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: had this independently corroborated. I'm gonna hear to say that

1256
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: the guy is lying or not truthful.

1257
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: And New York Post is a sensational outlet.

1258
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: However, New York Post is typically pro UFC. Yes, but

1259
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: it seems to me that both sides are leaking to

1260
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: the press. ESPN is leaking to the press to affect negotiations,

1261
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: and I suspect UFC is leaking to the press to

1262
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: affect negotiations. That's the first thing I'm gonna say, and again,

1263
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: we need to see if it's independently corroborated. The second

1264
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna say is, even if all of that

1265
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: is true, I'm not saying it doesn't matter. But the

1266
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: UFC made more money in twenty twenty two than they

1267
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty one. They made more money in

1268
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three year, they made more money in twenty

1269
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: twenty four every year, and I suspect they're gonna make

1270
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: more money this year too. So even if there are

1271
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: those problems, it's not like, oh, we're we're facing, you know,

1272
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: some kind of dire situation. They're flush with cash in

1273
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: a way they quite literally have never been before. I

1274
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: think that's what I would say, But BC, this is

1275
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: the re I think where I come down on this.

1276
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: I have had a sneaking suspicion, and I've been talking

1277
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: about it with so many different people. It's just a

1278
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: very basic question. Is MMA as popular as it was

1279
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen now? On some level it can't be

1280
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: because that was, you know, right before a sale. That's

1281
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: peak Connor, that's peak Rondo, which.

1282
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: Means there was a casual fan base that was stuck

1283
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: to it that is not there right.

1284
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: Now, totally, totally. But the point I want people to

1285
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: make is, on the one hand, the UFC has everybody

1286
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: by the balls because they do control the industry. They've

1287
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: got most of the best fighters. Either you watch MMA

1288
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Speaker 1: with them or you basically just don't. There's really not

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Speaker 1: much of an option. At the same time, I've had

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Speaker 1: a nagging feeling with anecdotal evidence that there's been a decline.

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Speaker 1: I've had a feeling with anecdotal evidence that something has

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Speaker 1: been a little bit off. I cannot confirm this report

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Speaker 1: or what he said on this podcast This gentleman, I

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Speaker 1: cannot say that, But what I would say to UBC is,

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Speaker 1: if it is true, it would certainly explain a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's when I come down it would.

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Speaker 2: But I think there are some nuances in questions within this.

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Speaker 2: Do we agree that UFC is spreading itself too thin,

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Speaker 2: that it's too watered down, that there's too much of

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00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: a at every turn to pull every cent out of it? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I think we all agree that. How much of that though,

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Speaker 2: considering that the ESPN contract has been UFC's financial backbone,

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00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: It's why again during the pandemic they pushed so hard

1304
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: to meet the minimum demands of that contract and then

1305
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: by doing that, became the only game in town and

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00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: brought in this whole new wave of fans that are

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00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: passionate about it right now. But how much of that

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00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: is ESPN? Though saying we'd like this many dates because

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00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 2: I thought a potentially great point was made by kid

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Speaker 2: Natan Zach Arnold and the m May Draw podcast where

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00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: they said ESPN coming back into that deal and renewing

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Speaker 2: it midway through, extended it two more years and may

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Speaker 2: have taken UFC out of the actual golden window when

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00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: they would get the most money when their deal was

1315
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: up because streaming was on top. Now things are changing

1316
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: so quickly in the digital TV streaming battle that's going

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00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: on that if that's true that they did miss a

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Speaker 2: window on there, we look back and be like, well,

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Speaker 2: the ESPN is asking for these dates. It's kind of

1320
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Speaker 2: when Dane is doing these interviews pitching TKO boxing, Everybody's like,

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Speaker 2: how many fight cards a year are you going to do?

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Speaker 2: How many divisions? And he keeps going, we got to

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Speaker 2: get a TV deal first. Then we're going to find

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Speaker 2: out what they want. If they want to show every week,

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Speaker 2: we'll give them a show every week. That was actually

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Speaker 2: what he said. So how much of this is because

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00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 2: they're true? Boss? Is the ESPN deal because it keeps

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00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: the structure, all the lights on and allows them to

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00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: be in position to make all this extra money? How

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00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: much of that is because of the broadcasters want. So

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying is, could there be a future if

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00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: the current run of pr and events and money hurts them?

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00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: Or maybe, like Zach might, Arnold may have said, maybe

1334
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: it was maybe they got a little bit past that

1335
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: perfect window where they would have gotten whatever they asked for.

1336
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 2: Is there a future where they can get a TV

1337
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: deal that has less states that forces them if they

1338
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: don't get the money they want to get after it

1339
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: again and be that passionate driving promoter they used to be.

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Speaker 1: Put up the tweet if you can't long island loop

1341
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: where somebody had summarized this, I don't know if you

1342
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: can take off there, there you go. Here's what I

1343
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: thought was kind of interesting. They have quote UFC will

1344
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: do everything in their power to get Netflix deal. Netflix

1345
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: are not a fan of the pay per view model,

1346
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: but are flexible. I mean, I want to be clear.

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: Even I've said this before, even if there are issues

1348
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: with the product, I feel like the UFC's next deal

1349
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: is going to be worth It'll be their most lucrative.

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01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: Contract that'll get the bump they're looking for. No matter

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01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: what of this reason, they want a billion a year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna get a billion a year,

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01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: but I do know that whatever they get is going

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01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: to be bigger than the last ESPN.

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Speaker 2: You think it'll be split or it'll be one deal.

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Speaker 1: That's the part I can't tell. Okay, that's the one

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Speaker 1: I have no idea because I don't think Netflix wants

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01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: to do that pay per view. I think they want

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01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: to have maximum access. But I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that's gonna go. And again, if

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Speaker 1: you're right to the extent that the broadcaster says we

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Speaker 1: have interest in I'm gonna make something up twenty five events, sure,

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01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: I still think that they would probably take another broadcast

1364
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: deal beyond that BC. And the reason why I say

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01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: that is because they've just expanded the scope of what

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01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: they do so far. They're gonna want to sell that

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01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: to somebody. Maybe Netflix doesn't actually buy it, and so

1368
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: you can say, oh, I'm just gonna pay attention to

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01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: the Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Shows that right.

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Speaker 1: So the point being is saying, if you've got six

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Speaker 1: to seven to eight hundred five, and I think they're

1373
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: closer to between six and seven, if you've got that

1374
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: many fighters, you need to keep them busy or you

1375
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: have to restructure your organization. I don't think they're going

1376
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: to restructure their organization. They're gonna find someone to sell

1377
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: that to the question is whether or not that is Netflix.

1378
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: Well, if TKO ends up launching with the Canelo versus

1379
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: Bud Crawford fight, on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna kind of downplay that.

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01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: I know, it feels like it's not part of our

1382
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: show today. But Turkey la Chek put out a video

1383
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: that was almost like coming back after the recent criticism

1384
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 2: that came out of the TKO boxing announcement, and it

1385
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: feels like both him and Dana are suddenly like.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know a little bit, no, but I mean

1387
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: more than that fight. Hub TV did a quick like

1388
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: ring side interview with the Callum Walsh fight with Dana

1389
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: and they asked him like, hey, are you going to

1390
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: be part of this Crawford Canelo thing? And he's like, eh,

1391
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: Turkey's got commitments. He made it to be like a

1392
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: Turkey thing. He didn't even say him yeah.

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01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: I felt in that case that he was just trying

1394
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: to take the attention off because he wants it to

1395
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: be a big surprise. That was my thought. Okay, yeah,

1396
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: but maybe it's not finalized yet, maybe it's still in

1397
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: a nego.

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01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah fair, I don't I don't know how to assess that.

1399
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we only know what we know. But you

1400
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: don't think that this bad PR stretch or this bad

1401
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: stretch of mark I mean, because here's the here's The

1402
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: point I wanted to make about, are they right that

1403
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: that things aren't on ESPN as much as that Sports

1404
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: Center is not putting out UFC features Every time I don't.

1405
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: Even know I watch Sports Center, I don't see I

1406
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: don't see.

1407
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 2: It either when I do come across it, so that

1408
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: that might be part of it. But how much of

1409
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: that is the fact that we're talking about the star

1410
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 2: problem and stars fuel the really big crossover fights. How

1411
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 2: much of that is the fact that they didn't deliver

1412
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 2: on Jones aspinall or Jones and Ghanu that Connor hasn't

1413
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: fought in forever. How much has that played a role

1414
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: in here, Because if those big fights would have been

1415
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: made first, take's going to be talking about it, right,

1416
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: and it's going to make this UFC feel not niche,

1417
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: not a high priced niche. It makes it feel like

1418
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: it's mainstream.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember when Kane Velaskiz fought Francis and Ganu

1420
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: and then as soon as that fight was over, they

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01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: threw it on ESPN to Sports Center, which was hosted

1422
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Speaker 1: by Aeriel Hilwani and Chail Sun and Live Wow. Do

1423
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: you remember that?

1424
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't remember that, right?

1425
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 1: I remember that distinct. What was the last fucking time

1426
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: something like that. That might have been the last time

1427
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: something like that has happened. It just doesn't happen anymore.

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 4: I was the first national ESPN card. If I'm not mistaken,

1429
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 4: it could have been.

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01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: But the point is is, like, why didn't they repeat that? Like,

1431
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: they didn't go back to it. You know, it's just

1432
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: been a thing that they tried once. I would imagine

1433
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: that the UFC and ESPN go ahead. Every time I

1434
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: see you lean over, like like the unibomber over.

1435
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: There you're talking about.

1436
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry about that. I would imagine that ESPN does

1437
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: want to stay in the UFC business, but I think

1438
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: certainly under vastly different terms than the first time.

1439
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: But I'm like, you know, chicken in the egg. Here

1440
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: is the fact that ESPN wanted so many dates forced

1441
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 2: the UFC to water down their product, and this is

1442
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: the reality. Or are UFC holding some of these really

1443
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 2: good fights for the next deal, because if you can

1444
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: offer I can get McGregor diz three, if you want

1445
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: to sign with me.

1446
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: Then also worth considering. You know, first of all, I

1447
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: do think that the fact that espnup so badly UFC

1448
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: through thirteen improves UFC's hand considerably, no matter what, I

1449
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: think that they could be holding fights. But one thing

1450
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: to consider, and I have no idea what extent this

1451
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: is relevant. I remember after the Rebok deal collapsed and

1452
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: there was like, you know, leaks from the Rebox side.

1453
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: They had said, you know, the UFC brought in Matt

1454
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: Hughes and they brought in all these different guys and

1455
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: they told us that the fighters were gonna love it.

1456
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: And then there was this massive blowback, and Rebok had

1457
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: said that they were caught by surprise. To what extent

1458
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: did the UFC prime the pump a little bit and saying, oh,

1459
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: we can definitely give you forty plus dates a year,

1460
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: no problem, And the ESPN was like, great, let's take it.

1461
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: And now they're like, okay, right, we need to pair

1462
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: that back a little bit, just over time. So the

1463
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make is you're making it out

1464
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: to be at least suggesting the possibility that it was

1465
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: ESPN saying we want these dates, right, And my hunch

1466
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: is there was a little bit of salesmanship on the

1467
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: side of UFC to say we can absolutely deliver it

1468
01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: x plus.

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Speaker 2: You know, but you know, the Dana White contendersaries plays

1470
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 2: into that, everything plays into how the trends are going.

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Speaker 2: But it certainly isn't a great trend for the company

1472
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 2: of Late despite the financial success.

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Speaker 1: You say that, You say that, but dude, they are

1474
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: gonna sign a massive deal the next to me. The

1475
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: next deal the UFC signs will be incontestably massive. The

1476
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: thing that I have a question about is not that one.

1477
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: It's the five to ten year mark from now where

1478
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: all of the chickens, if they don't change, will come

1479
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 1: home to roost. But we'll have to see how that goes.

1480
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Speaker 2: This is going to be a very interesting time coming up.

1481
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: If you're into the business side of this, it is.

1482
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: It is wild to see it.

1483
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Speaker 1: It is wild to see I certainly agree with that.

1484
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Speaker 2: care of us absoluteistic card. So are you feeling the sex,

1499
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: especially if they put yeah year Patricio on the main card.

1500
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 2: Are you feeling how damn sexy that card is?

1501
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 3: Right?

1502
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a sick one. That's that is that is

1503
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: That's the best card of the year thus far.

1504
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: We bury our complaints Long Island luke about well, you

1505
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: don't complain ever. You love this product week too week,

1506
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: and that's fine, that's your choice. But this is this

1507
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 2: is like red Panty night right. Connor was right.

1508
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 4: This is definitely the best place review of the year.

1509
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: So far, for for a million miles.

1510
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, of those fights, I love the in between fights.

1511
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: Are you feeling bon Nickel RDR.

1512
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: By the way, by the way, that on the same

1513
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: card as Figgie and Sandhagen, sign me up brother, And

1514
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: everyone was kind of like, why is Jeremy Stevens back,

1515
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: And we talked about a little bit. But like the

1516
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: Stevens Mason Jones fight, I'm into it. I'm into it.

1517
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't hate it at all.

1518
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 2: Right, but also they're putting it in Iowa, so it's

1519
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 2: like it seems like a local ticket. But thing just

1520
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: is that the same reason why they picked up Paige

1521
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: Van Sants has been last minute in his home area there, Portland.

1522
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 1: Again, I don't think that's a bad thing. I don't

1523
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: think signing guys for regional.

1524
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,479
Speaker 2: Ticket that's more what this is rather than an FU

1525
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: to b KFC or a power move.

1526
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think it, Yeah exactly.

1527
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: I don't think it's by the way, Jeremy Stevens earned

1528
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: it with what he's done with his brand. Absolute oh

1529
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 2: shout out to him on that run. Let's go to

1530
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: topic number four right now. They been talking about ideas

1531
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: in a while, all right, let's talk about him. He

1532
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: told the Full Violence YouTube channel that he wants to

1533
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: go back to get a UFC title not done in

1534
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: the octagon, but that quote, everyone is boring right now?

1535
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: Uh is now a good time for the UFC to

1536
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,479
Speaker 2: welcome back Nate Diaz? Well, while he wants a title fight,

1537
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: which bouts would make the most sense for him, which division,

1538
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 2: let's talk about it possible Nate Diaz comeback, but let's

1539
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 2: hear his words himself.

1540
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: First.

1541
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: We got this tweet here, here's the quote. Right now,

1542
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 2: there's nobody doing shit in the UFC. Everybody's boring right now.

1543
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: Nate said, who's the champion right now? At one seventy exactly.

1544
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. There's no buzz, nobody doing shit,

1545
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: everybody's whack. So Luke that came off of that podcast

1546
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 2: that he did with Full Violence on their YouTube channel,

1547
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 2: Will shot out to them, like what is actually left

1548
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 2: with Nate? In your eyes? He had the win over

1549
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 2: Jorge Maswal and a competitive boxing fight between two old guys.

1550
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: He does always want to fight the best. He's always

1551
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: said I want to fight Leon Edwards when he was champion,

1552
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 2: the get that rematch, he O. He only wants the best.

1553
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 2: But McGregor Part three feels like the only UFC fight

1554
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 2: Left or Monsvitol rematch.

1555
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 1: I have some ideas. No, okay, I have some ideas.

1556
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: Now it is impossible to know exactly what Nate wants,

1557
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: both in terms of opponents, I mean, yah, champion, but okay,

1558
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how realistic.

1559
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 2: At somebody read hot that has get him Street credit

1560
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: for going in there again.

1561
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: So I've got five names. Can I give you five names? Now?

1562
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: These five names and long is ian. Look, I would

1563
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: love for you to wait in on this too. I've

1564
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: got five names. I am not putting them in any

1565
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: particular order. I just have them. I want you to

1566
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: tell me what your vibe is on how good it

1567
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: could be. Okay, now there is an escalation at the end.

1568
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: But okay, how about Nate Diaz versus Dustin Poarier.

1569
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for a retirement fight on top of that

1570
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: in New Orleans.

1571
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: Now he wants a champion. I know. I don't know

1572
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: what they can do about that.

1573
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: That's that they have history too from the MSG.

1574
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: Were supposed to fight and it didn't happen the whole bit.

1575
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 2: And if you don't show up to fight against Nate,

1576
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: you lost under like to a nine Street code.

1577
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't I don't think that he would accept

1578
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 1: this next fight. But at fifty five, Nate Diaz versus

1579
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 1: Ilio to Poria, what do we think? Oh? Fuck you?

1580
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah you got that's so whack, dude, you can't have

1581
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 4: Ilia fight Nate.

1582
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,799
Speaker 1: I'm trying to come up with great idea.

1583
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: Why Connor's she needs to be fighting.

1584
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: I got five times, I got five names. Okay, I

1585
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: think you could do a Leon Edwards rematch. How do

1586
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: we feel about that?

1587
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: So if Leon Beach Sean Brady at uf C London's

1588
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: and yeah, because the shot got still is gonna get,

1589
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: especially if you tell Leon you're not gonna get the

1590
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 2: next or the next title shot because of the way

1591
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 2: that this division is is like Gary's. There's a lot

1592
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 2: of people around that neee big fight.

1593
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: What do you think about Leon Edwards?

1594
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 4: I don't love it.

1595
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie well tomorrow.

1596
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 4: I have a good name, but I'm gonna wait and

1597
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 4: see if you say it first.

1598
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: Okay, So there's I saw so far. I've had Portia

1599
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: to Poria and Edwards.

1600
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: You want tomorrow at all?

1601
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: Hold on next? This is an easy call, Connor McGregor.

1602
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: So you can do the trilogy with Connor McGregor's he

1603
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: called it always felt like.

1604
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: One hundred percent in any form. And when I say

1605
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 2: any form, I mean even forty three years old form

1606
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: that they would cash in that lottery ticket, mean in

1607
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 2: the UFCA. What right now, given everything, what is your

1608
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: confidence percentage chance that Diez and McGregor have a third

1609
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 2: fight in the UFC's octagon before they die.

1610
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: Twenty five percent?

1611
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: Wow, that's it. Twenty five percent. Like two years ago

1612
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: you would have said ninety fifty or.

1613
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, better worse, fifty to fifty.

1614
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: Now, I'll look, where are you out on that? Do

1615
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 2: you do you need that? Do you care about that fight?

1616
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't care about it at all. But

1617
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 4: I was going to say thirty percent, like.

1618
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: You don't care about at all at all?

1619
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 1: No, But I mean you you agree that's a big fight.

1620
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 5: Sure, but I would have cared about it way more

1621
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 5: four or five years exactly.

1622
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 2: Okay, if you're the one, if he didn't caught up

1623
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 2: with pourier O Connor, Yeah, that would have been a

1624
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: good time to cash in that Nay fight der in

1625
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: that streequence.

1626
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 1: All right, here's the one that I think is I

1627
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: give it a second to marinate. But I like this

1628
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: one at fifty five. And again, I have no idea

1629
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: if Nate wants to do fifty five. But if he

1630
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: does Max Holloway for the BMF title, what do we

1631
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: think about that? It's a title fight. You can do

1632
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: fifty five. They're gonna beat each other's fucking brains out.

1633
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: What is wrong with that fight?

1634
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: Dude? This is like for all the if I don't care,

1635
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: I don't think UFC listens to our show and it's like,

1636
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: oh my god, the press is saying bad things about me.

1637
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: I think they're probably just like fuck the press like

1638
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 2: they always do. Yeah, but you want to give a

1639
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: gift back to the fans, dude, that's a you put

1640
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: that on top of pay per view for the BMF bell.

1641
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 2: It's just like, I feel like that'll recharge the h

1642
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 2: repump the primes, right, that'll re reget the Come.

1643
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 4: On, look, you have to weigh in on this one.

1644
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 4: I could get behind that. I think that's a good fight.

1645
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, which Max is up there with that?

1646
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: Justin Gaegee, that's a good one too.

1647
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 4: That would be a scrap that's a good one too.

1648
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: Plus you could do that at one seventy.

1649
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 2: That's the heart. That's the hardcore fight fans version of

1650
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 2: the fight we just said, Holloway versus him is like this,

1651
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: everyone's tuning in and everyone loves both guys so much.

1652
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: But the darker, hardcore version of that.

1653
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: Is that the reason I like the Holloway fight is

1654
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: because one, it's stylistically gonna be fucking awesome. Yeah. Two,

1655
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've ever talked about these two

1656
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: guys fighting or.

1657
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 2: It's rare to get star power that big right now

1658
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: at this and.

1659
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: Then last but not least certainly it is for a title. Granted,

1660
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: you can call whatever you want about the title, but

1661
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 1: Nate's like, oh, I want to fight for a title.

1662
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: If the BMF title, which I know he fought for before.

1663
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: Obviously you will see two forty nine against Tohem Maswadoal

1664
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:25,440
Speaker 1: didn't get it. Here's a second, a second chance. Apologies,

1665
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 1: he has a second chance to get.

1666
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 2: It, and doesn't he claim they created it because of him? Yes,

1667
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 2: So this is this is storytelling. This is ww storytelling

1668
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: right here. That is that's.

1669
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: Really I like that fight. I like that pretty good.

1670
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: But the Gaichee one is gnarly.

1671
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: The Gaichie one is devastating. That one is tough.

1672
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: Do you want nothing to do with another mazvit All

1673
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: fight or.

1674
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: Is there any scenario where you be they fought in MMA,

1675
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: they fought in boxing. The boxing fight, as we talked about,

1676
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: was surprisingly good. We gave him credit for it. I

1677
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: still give him one.

1678
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: One in the series. Like, Okay, if that's a pay

1679
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 2: per view main event, people are going to complain. But

1680
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: imagine if that was like the third best fight on

1681
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: a loaded pay per view card, then you're.

1682
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 1: Like fine and you're like, oh yeah, I'm just thinking

1683
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: what do we do to meet Nate's terms to get

1684
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: him over to me? Holloway fifty five BMF.

1685
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 2: Let's talk about motivation though, willingness, which can waiver with Nate.

1686
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 2: Remember he fought Connor twice and it took three years

1687
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: off at the peak of his marketing, right like at

1688
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: the point where he was a almost a household name

1689
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 2: because of the McGregor Rubb. Do you think that he

1690
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: was invigorat reinvigorated by this mosit All fight. Do you

1691
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 2: think that he's looking at Okay, I got X amount

1692
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 2: of pay days left, Like what do you think I

1693
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: know Nate is different than all of us.

1694
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: So how do you think he's looking. He's going to

1695
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: be forty very soon. I'm not sure exactly when it is,

1696
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: but it's imminent. And on top of it, remember he

1697
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,440
Speaker 1: got sideways with Fan Meo. He was supposed to get

1698
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: ten million or more, and even the one million he

1699
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: got he tragically gave back. Uh And so I don't

1700
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: even know what he got paid.

1701
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: Because that story disappeared. I have to believe that everybody

1702
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,560
Speaker 2: got paid with a we're deserved.

1703
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: I've not hit up his energy.

1704
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 4: That story resurfaced this week when Ryan Garcia was getting

1705
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 4: sued by Famio, saying they're still.

1706
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: In the lad I was about to say, so, this

1707
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: is my point. That was supposed to be a big

1708
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 1: financial windfall that never materialized. Granted, he got the Jake

1709
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: Paul fight. I'm sure he got a good, pretty coin

1710
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: for that, the DS, excuse me, the the McGregor fights,

1711
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure he got big money for that, even the

1712
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: Ferguson fight to an extent. But I suspect this is

1713
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: a payday issue, and this is the point I want

1714
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 1: to make, Like if there's no real big payday associated

1715
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: like if Gachie had a title. I think Nate would

1716
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 1: take it. But without a title, it's like, what is

1717
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 1: the value to him?

1718
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 2: There's no world where he fights is Lama Jever, there's

1719
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 2: no like justification for that. Now, a guy like him

1720
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 2: wouldn't need justification because it's.

1721
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: Right, because that seems unlikely. I wouldn't bet on it, right.

1722
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 2: Would he take it? Because he just said I want

1723
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: to be the champions? So what did he take it?

1724
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 1: Hed take it for a title? He take it? Yeah?

1725
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 2: Does he do better or worse than? Doesn't it worse? Right?

1726
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: I think Islam. We all love Nate Diaz, but I

1727
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 1: think Islam would win that handily. Yeah, yeah, dude, Again,

1728
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: Islam is the number one pound for pound guy in

1729
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: the sport. I mean, what are we talking about?

1730
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 2: Okay, and now Patty's got a fight. But if Paddy

1731
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: didn't have a fight, would you have considered.

1732
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: That at all? Versus Patty?

1733
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 2: It's such a weird fight.

1734
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a weird fight. It's actually a good fight

1735
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons, not least of which is

1736
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: it's generational. However, I have a feeling that Patty, because

1737
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: he might be at the peak of his Powers would

1738
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 1: win and then we'd all be fucking devastated. And so

1739
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: for that reason, I have a hard time getting behind it.

1740
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,600
Speaker 1: But I can't. I can't shit on the fight. It

1741
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: would not it would, It would solve a lot of problems.

1742
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: It would be a good fight.

1743
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 2: There you go. That was topic number four. Let's go

1744
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 2: to topic number five.

1745
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: And you guys are wrong. Diaz versus Iliot to Portia

1746
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: would be good. You guys are fucking haters.

1747
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 2: No, I just think you do the McGregor.

1748
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: You're a fucking hater. That's what you are.

1749
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 2: You gotta at that point, you just do the McGregor fight. No,

1750
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 2: I don't name McGregor Diaz. I mean McGregor to Poria.

1751
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: I think that's the fight you that the UFC should

1752
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 2: cash in on.

1753
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't.

1754
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I want that. I'm saying they should

1755
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 2: cash in on that for their own good. Would you

1756
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 2: enjoy that at all? Would there be any part of

1757
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 2: you that would get jazzed up?

1758
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd be I'd be pretty I mean, that's a

1759
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: that's a relevant fight. You know, seist maybe seis as

1760
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: they say and where I'm from.

1761
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: All right, Topic number five takes us to the two

1762
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 2: Arena on Saturday. Hey, UFC's back, not just a regular

1763
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: fight and I we're at London here with this card

1764
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 2: and it ain't bad. There's a high stakes in this

1765
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 2: welterweight main event as former champion Leon Edwards bent out

1766
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: for a while, we've needed to see his answer, his

1767
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: return from falling off of that welterweight thrown. He'll be

1768
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 2: welcoming a streaking Sean Brady. But is it a Sean

1769
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 2: Brady who's shown us every answered all the questions we had. Well,

1770
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: this will be the fight in a lot of ways

1771
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 2: that should do that for us.

1772
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: Luke.

1773
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: This has massive steaks. It's a great fight. So when

1774
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: when you talk about which aspect of this great fight

1775
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 2: has you most intrigued, most cised, most excited, most recoiled

1776
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: and ready for possible gross explosion? Who even talks like

1777
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 2: this on a television program in front of a microphone? Luke?

1778
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 2: What part of this fight is the sexiest to me?

1779
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 1: This is? This is due or die for Leon Edwards. Now,

1780
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: of course, even if he loses a decision here, I

1781
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: don't mean his career is over. That's not what I mean.

1782
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: But this is due or die for him at the

1783
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: top of this division. And the reason why I say

1784
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: that is obviously just sort of where he is from

1785
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: a general position, but there's a little bit more to

1786
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: it than that. Namely, he was supposed to be fighting

1787
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: Jack Dala Madelena and there was a switch to Sean Brady.

1788
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 1: Now that you go from a striker to the grappler,

1789
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: that can't be easy. But number one, there was a

1790
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: lot of time in between to get right. Number two,

1791
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: we're talking about a guy who had to go back

1792
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: to back fights with Kamara Usman. He had to fight

1793
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: Colby Covington, he had to fight Bla Mohammed, and now

1794
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: you have to fight Sean Brady. These are each different guys,

1795
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,759
Speaker 1: but you are talking about different versions of the same

1796
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: kind of fighter. Somebody who's going to press you up

1797
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,480
Speaker 1: against the fence, who's going to be hunting for takedowns,

1798
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: looking for submissions from the back. In the case of

1799
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: Sean Brady, by the way, very very you know, very

1800
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 1: good at that. But you have a chance to capitalize

1801
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 1: on all of you if you are Leon Edwards. All

1802
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: of the investment in takedown defence, in getting off of

1803
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: the your back off defence, in down blocking everything that

1804
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: he has worked on for years at this point, even

1805
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: before the kamor Usman rematch, but I mean in particular

1806
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,480
Speaker 1: ramping it up since then, where he had these constant

1807
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: wrestlers in his face. This is advantageous for him. On

1808
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: top of it, you will recall in his last fight

1809
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: where he did lose to Bala Muhammad. And you can

1810
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: choose to accept this or not. I'm just repeating to

1811
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: you what Leon Edwards told the public, namely, hey, it

1812
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: was five in the morning. It messed me up. Well,

1813
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: this one will not be This one is going to

1814
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: be prime freaking time in London.

1815
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 2: Dinner time for us.

1816
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 1: So let's back up a second here. Let's back up

1817
01:19:58,640 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: a second.

1818
01:19:59,000 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 3: Here.

1819
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: We're talking about a situation where a former champion is

1820
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: getting a I'm not gonna say stylistically favorable, but stylistically

1821
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: well known kind of opponent on a much better time,

1822
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: a guy who, by the way, I have great admiration

1823
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: for Sean Brady. He was one of MK's first alums.

1824
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:24,839
Speaker 1: From Jesus my brain just fried their room service diaries.

1825
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: He has worked on his striking, but it's not like

1826
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 1: he's the kind of striking threat that you know I

1827
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: think kamar Usman is necessarily.

1828
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: Not showing it in those two comeback fights, meaning Sean Brady,

1829
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 2: or has he not been forced to show it.

1830
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 1: It's tough to show it against Gilbert Burns, I think

1831
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: more than people realize. So so the other point is

1832
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: maybe Brady actually shows us here. We already know whos

1833
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 1: wrestling is top notch, We already know is grappling is sensational.

1834
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: We already know he's a fucking gorilla. Maybe he actually

1835
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: adds another wrinkle here which actually adds to the intrigy

1836
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: some bombs. I'm just pointing out. If you're Leon Edwards

1837
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: and you lose this one, what would the excuse be

1838
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: this time? What could you possibly say?

1839
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 2: Give him the Tarford bit right now?

1840
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: Well a little bit? Did he not make a bunch

1841
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 1: of excuses, including ones like dude, La Mohammad went in

1842
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: there and fought a five in the morning and he

1843
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: won just fine. Leon is an excellent fighter who has

1844
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: done incredibly well. They are giving him again. You're fighting

1845
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: Sean Brady. It's not an easy fight, far from it,

1846
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: but the set of circumstances, in particular relative to the

1847
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 1: last one, should give him I don't know some confidence

1848
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: about his chances here. If he loses this one, what

1849
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: are you gonna say? Now, Roy, Wow?

1850
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 2: Long Alan, I'm wondering if you echo that from Luke,

1851
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 2: Like what I said off the start of the segment

1852
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: was that, like Leon, where you been? We've been waiting

1853
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 2: for this answer, and I'm thinking he's got like a

1854
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: year and a half layoff. His layoff is eight months

1855
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: he lost the belt last July. Do you feel like

1856
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 2: he's like overdue to answer a lot of questions here, like,

1857
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: let's effing go? You staying on that?

1858
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 4: I don't think he should be, but I think given

1859
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 4: how long it took him to get a title shot,

1860
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 4: obviously the UFC does not really favor him, so I

1861
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 4: would agree that, like now you lose two in a

1862
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 4: row to top guys, it's gonna take him a while to

1863
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 4: get back to that spot. But I do feel like

1864
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 4: the JDM fight was way more winnable for him here.

1865
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 4: I know the odds were a little further apart, but.

1866
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: See, I thought this was more. I thought we had

1867
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 2: more questions about Sean Brady in this fight, like can

1868
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 2: you You're gonna have to show us the full game?

1869
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: So will you're striking be on the level. What what

1870
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 2: have you grown? Where have you grown since the balla last?

1871
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,799
Speaker 1: Why are you convinced he can't win with wrestling and grappling.

1872
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced that he can't. I'm just saying I

1873
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 2: thought that was where the focus would be question wise

1874
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 2: and concern wise. And you're saying, well, this.

1875
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: Is what makes it a great main event. It is.

1876
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: Everything you're saying is true. You asked me what I'm

1877
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: paying attention to.

1878
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 2: I mean they both are gonna have to answer something.

1879
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: Lean Edwards surprised me against kamar Usman. But then you

1880
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: watch some of those fights and you go back, you're like, Okay,

1881
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have been surprised. Obviously, he rolled over Colby,

1882
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: who looked like shit. And again, folks, forget in the

1883
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: fifth round he gave bill All some trouble and obviously

1884
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: it was another round. I think he took his back

1885
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 1: or whatever the second round or whatever. It was second

1886
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: our third round, So you know, it wasn't like he

1887
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: got completely demolished in that fight. It's just, dude, you're

1888
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 1: getting another wrestler. You're getting it at a much better

1889
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 1: time slot. He has historically not shown the most aggressive

1890
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: punching ever. Okay, Leon, you want to get back. This

1891
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: is a great opportunity, right.

1892
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 2: And even though I'm the one saying, like, man, if

1893
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: where have you been? Come back? It feels like it's

1894
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 2: so long. I guess I feel the weight of not

1895
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 2: having these questions answered. But he's thirty three and heading

1896
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 2: into his last fight he was top five pound for pounds,

1897
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: So I'm saying I might have a little bit more

1898
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 2: confidence that we are going to get a very elitely

1899
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 2: on Edwards in this one. So I want to see

1900
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 2: if Sean Brady can raise that yes well, or if

1901
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 2: his plan A is going to be a problem for Leon.

1902
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 2: There is a lot of chatter, and we're going to

1903
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 2: break it down exces and O why it is in

1904
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 2: great detail on Friday, but let's just stick here from

1905
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 2: a distance. A lot of chatter of is Leon the

1906
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 2: takedown defender that he's made up to be and would

1907
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,440
Speaker 2: he have a problem with Sean Brady's aggressiveness.

1908
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: I think if Sean Brady can take down Gilbert Burns,

1909
01:23:55,479 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: he can definitely take down Leon Edwards. But dude, you

1910
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: got who knows how Sean is feeling? Who knows if

1911
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: he's he's a competitive I mean, Michael Kiessa, but we

1912
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: were talking about this privately one time, and he was

1913
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: he just couldn't believe how fucking strong he was. He

1914
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: was just like shocked by it. And you know, d

1915
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: we already know Sean Brady can wrestle his ass off.

1916
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: We already know he's got phenomenal He's got some of

1917
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: the best jiu jitsu, by the way, in the entire UFC.

1918
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: That's a real thing.

1919
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 2: And you and him both agree that Assay should be

1920
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: fully tatted.

1921
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 1: On, tat up them thangs. But at the same time,

1922
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: I just find it real interesting how Leon kind of

1923
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: went out in his last fight, the way things turned here,

1924
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: It's just a real remarkable turn of events. I am

1925
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: I am pumped for this.

1926
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 2: Here's the question, and this is very cynical. And if

1927
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 2: you're a Leon fan, you're gonna be like you see,

1928
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: you're a dick. Was he super elite or was he streaky?

1929
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 2: And I know, like people allowed one off night performance?

1930
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: Was it one off night Luke or was he streaky

1931
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 2: meaning that people like me who missed on the way

1932
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,440
Speaker 2: up how good he actually was? Did we have reasons

1933
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 2: to have that doubt and maybe he is a little

1934
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 2: bit of a streaky.

1935
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: Fire and I didn't expect him to win the Kamara

1936
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 1: Usban rematch, which, by the way, he was on the

1937
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 1: way to not doing that until he had won the

1938
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: greatest moments in UFC history. He won the rubber match

1939
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: cleanly at that point.

1940
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: And that's when we were like, oh shit, if we'd

1941
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 2: been if we'd missed it, then that's the.

1942
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: So that's what That's what I felt like. I was like, damn,

1943
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: I must I must have missed what he was doing.

1944
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 1: But then to watch what Blall did, I was like, oh, right, Well,

1945
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: here's the thing. The law Mohammed's takedown setups in series

1946
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 1: are very different than what kamar Usman did. I did

1947
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: a whole tape study on it. They had a real

1948
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: particular method that they were looking at when they went

1949
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: after him, and it worked tremendously. The pum trying to

1950
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 1: make is it feels to me like Leon leveled up

1951
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: his wrestling for an older generation of welterweight, And I

1952
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: know that Blall is technically a little bit older, but

1953
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying the generational that he comes from and the new,

1954
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 1: newer generation of grappler, the newer generation of Walter Wade.

1955
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't know this because only Ballall has done it.

1956
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: But if Sean goes in there and does it, you're like, aha, okay,

1957
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 1: so there was a line in the sand he could

1958
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 1: not cross. Or Leon goes in there and you know,

1959
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: busts him up and he's right back to it. So again,

1960
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 1: either way, you want to look at this, this fucking fight.

1961
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: Early odds here long Allen.

1962
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, right now, Leon is plus one twenty four showing

1963
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 5: Brady minus one.

1964
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: For you, that's a lot of respect for Brady, right,

1965
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot of respect for Brady. It's a lot

1966
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: of to me. It's a lot of respect for Brady.

1967
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: It's also a lot of doubt to me about Leon. Yeah,

1968
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: I think people are like, I don't know, We're gonna

1969
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 1: get with it. This is my point. This is my point.

1970
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 1: This is the whole reason why this shit is intriguing,

1971
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: because Leon could go out there and shut all my

1972
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 1: stupid mouth and everyone else about. I'm not even predicting

1973
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: hall Los necessarily. I'm just saying, you know, really like

1974
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: dunk on, Okay, people were doubting me. Look how great

1975
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: I am, Like this is on the table as well.

1976
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 2: Watch that's we watch.

1977
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 1: This is why we watch.

1978
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 2: Damn, let's hear from.

1979
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: This is why we watch.

1980
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 2: We got that ship. Let's hear from Leon, Rocky, Let's go,

1981
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1982
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 10: That told me that after this wedd this isn't walking

1983
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 10: kind of fight. Wins this well, when I win, that

1984
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 10: is My aim is to to get back at two

1985
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 10: tong World Championship and the result of the follow me

1986
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 10: and everyone knew there with me.

1987
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: You know that was fine?

1988
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 10: Find anymore?

1989
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't love that excuse going right?

1990
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 1: Just see what I mean?

1991
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 2: He might be right. What if he's just really honest?

1992
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 2: What if he's just like that was the reason I

1993
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 2: succumbed to the time change.

1994
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: Okay, I believe that. Why didn't it affect Muhammad right now?

1995
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: It doesn't like others like.

1996
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 5: In England for ballall is midnight macause he didn't prep.

1997
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is like that stuff could trip you up.

1998
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 2: Maybe he's just being honest, like it tripped me, tripped

1999
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 2: me the f up.

2000
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: The excuse making for Leon here is insane to me.

2001
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: He's You're the UFC walter weight champion of the world.

2002
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: You have all the time in the world to adjust

2003
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: your schedule to perform at that time. Miss me with

2004
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: this bullshit? Please miss me with it? What are we

2005
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: talking about here?

2006
01:27:58,280 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 3: Oh?

2007
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 4: Wow, defending it, I'm saying you've said Ballall had to

2008
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 4: fight at that time too.

2009
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 5: Blall is still used to time in Chicago.

2010
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: No, but he came over weeks ahead of time. He

2011
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: had to acclimate there as well. I mean, I guess

2012
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: there was. It's probably easier to acclimate given that. That's fine.

2013
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: But again, if my job is to go run a

2014
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: race at five am, I'm going to take all the

2015
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: time I need to do that. And if I fail

2016
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 1: to perform that, oh tough titties.

2017
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 2: To what I was secretly trying to ask in that

2018
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: last harsh question of of Ballall, It's like, is he

2019
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: an elite fighter or did he have elite flashes in

2020
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 2: it when he needed? No, He's what I'm saying.

2021
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 3: No.

2022
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: No. I guess what I'm trying to say is like,

2023
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 2: we're not concerned that he's physically washed, but are we

2024
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: concerned that he doesn't have that same spark when he

2025
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 2: needs it most? Like, you know, momentum wise.

2026
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: You have to wonder if he doesn't hit that head

2027
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 1: kick on Kumara. Where is he today?

2028
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, And like the mental side of

2029
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,879
Speaker 2: it is huge, and sometimes momentum really matters in this regard.

2030
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 2: So right now, is it not that he's regressed, it's

2031
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 2: just that he's on a he could be on a downswing.

2032
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 2: I mean, that's those are some of the questions that

2033
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 2: he's got to answer.

2034
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: He's always been a little streak. He's not quite the right'ial. Yeah,

2035
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 1: a little bit kind of like, you know, very good,

2036
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: but not exactly.

2037
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 2: The almost fell apart there at the end.

2038
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, not exactly overwhelming. But I do think he's elite.

2039
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: I do think he's very good. Again, let's be clear,

2040
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: Sean Brady has his hands full here. You know, we're

2041
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 1: not We're not crazy. I just I'm very unsympathetic to Oh,

2042
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,759
Speaker 1: I had to fight five in the morning. Fine, they

2043
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: shouldn't make fighters do that, and I totally think they

2044
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: shouldn't make fighters do that. But you're the UFC walter

2045
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: weight champion of the world, dude. Give the excuse to

2046
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: somebody else.

2047
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 2: I mean, there's interested in it, get interested, But leon

2048
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 2: M fighting until five in the man, right, So what

2049
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 2: you're going to do. We also have sound from Sean Brady.

2050
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear from Phil sound?

2051
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 1: I think, oh do we Okay, let's see.

2052
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: I hear we do. We don't have sound for I

2053
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 2: must have misread people.

2054
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 4: All reacting to Leon's last week.

2055
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 2: Oh here we go, here we go, thank you for this?

2056
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: This uh.

2057
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 2: From Perry Puncher. Bala Mohammed response to Leon Edwards's claim

2058
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 2: that the UFC told him he will receive the next

2059
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 2: title shot if you beat Sean Brady at UFC London

2060
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 2: and says he will one hundred turn it down if

2061
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 2: it gets all offered, and the quote is I don't

2062
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 2: know what Leon's thinking, because Leon, you have a full

2063
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 2: three years before you can even think about getting a

2064
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 2: rematch with me. This is Muhammad talking on the Believe

2065
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 2: You Me podcast. It's going to be a long three years,

2066
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 2: he said of fighting contenders for Leon, and then one

2067
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 2: hundred percent, I would say no. If UFC offered me

2068
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 2: Leon Edwards next, and this is obviously Belall still talking.

2069
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 2: I would make him wait. I have the next guy

2070
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 2: in line. Anyway, I think it's shavcut, so there's nothing

2071
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 2: he could do to skip Shav Cut. I wouldn't allow

2072
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 2: that to ever happen. So luke bold statements by the

2073
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,480
Speaker 2: champion right there? Does he actually have that control and power.

2074
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: He can say? No, yes, yes he can.

2075
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 2: And then what happens next to the UFC publicly shames you.

2076
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 1: I think the thing is this. The question is how

2077
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 1: quickly shot Cut's going to be ready? And the other

2078
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 1: possibility is what if Leon goes in there and just

2079
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: fucking runs over Sean Brady like head kicks him in

2080
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 1: the first round.

2081
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 2: What's the catch phrase he has? Is it a headshot dead?

2082
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, So I'm saying, what if he gets one

2083
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 1: of those?

2084
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 2: You gave a cringe response to that?

2085
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I just forgot I was my dude. I've

2086
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,560
Speaker 1: been awake since two thirty this morning. My brain is

2087
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: barely working, all right. But what I'm trying to say

2088
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,879
Speaker 1: is the UFC is just giving themselves options. They probably

2089
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 1: did tell him that, and I'm not even saying they

2090
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: don't even mean it. If he goes out there and

2091
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: wins and can make a quick turnaround and looks pretty

2092
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 1: good and shot Cut's not quite ready, we haven't heard

2093
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: anyth about how Shotcot's gonna be ready. All that stuff.

2094
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: But at the same time you make all that work.

2095
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: He could jump the queue absolutely. And by the way,

2096
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 1: now you've got a rematch on your hands. Now you've

2097
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 1: got Mohammed versus Leon two after getting pasted in that

2098
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 1: particular singer.

2099
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,799
Speaker 2: In this case, huh, Leon and ballall had.

2100
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 1: A no ca Oh that's right, that's right. Do I

2101
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: completely memory?

2102
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 2: All that really matters?

2103
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: It was the ipoke, remember, good thing. We're doing a

2104
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 1: lot about IPO these days.

2105
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 10: Huh.

2106
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 2: I know. Seriously, that'll wrap up our five topics right there.

2107
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy them. Of course, we'll be back

2108
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 2: big on Friday. Don't forget ten am Eastern start time

2109
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 2: on Friday. Will really hammer out this card from top

2110
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 2: to bottom, like like like.

2111
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: A pornography I watch.

2112
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 2: I was gonna get all bang.

2113
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: I'll watch a lot of bogs get you know, hit

2114
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 1: top of bottom.

2115
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 2: We've got a fun segment now brought to us by

2116
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 2: the fans every Sunday night on social media. That's X

2117
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 2: and IG at Morning Combat gives you an opportunity to

2118
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 2: ask your question, let your voice be heard, and open

2119
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 2: yourself up here. I got a question to some legitimate heckling.

2120
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: Before we do this, So I will you rate my shoes?

2121
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: I have a serious question, Will you rate my shoes? Okay?

2122
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 2: Do you have your toast spacers on?

2123
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: Or I don't? So I want to say I have

2124
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: been for the last like four years, I've been buying

2125
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: barefoot shoes. Yes, And the biggest complaint I have about

2126
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: barefoot shoes is not that they're not functional. They're actually

2127
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 1: quite functional, but that the design of them is ass

2128
01:32:58,320 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 1: all the time.

2129
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 2: It's like full hokah, it's just the worst.

2130
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: So I finally got these. These are from a company

2131
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: called Bear Barracks.

2132
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: And are they like air Jordan's version?

2133
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: They're like the They're like the dunk lows from Nike

2134
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: dunk Lowes. Yeah, you gotta rate them. What do we

2135
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 1: think here? It's hard to see.

2136
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 2: Oh that's a bold dad move right there. They're not

2137
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 2: They're certainly not awful. They're certainly not.

2138
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: What do we think?

2139
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 2: I can see what you're trying to pull? So this

2140
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 2: looks like rookie ball, rookie year Michael Jordan on the bulls.

2141
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's low. It's definitely shittier.

2142
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean it definitely screams Dad. But you kind of

2143
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 2: pull it off in a way. I'm gonna go like

2144
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 2: six point eight.

2145
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Oh, you can't give me the seven.

2146
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 2: But but dude, I wear things that are well below

2147
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 2: four point you know. I mean I wear.

2148
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: Long Island Luke. Can I get a seven out of you?

2149
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 4: You can, but it wouldn't be genuine.

2150
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 2: Wow.

2151
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 1: Let me just say this. Let me just say this.

2152
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 1: For barefoot shoes, these are a ten out of ten.

2153
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are Yeah, those four barefoot shoes.

2154
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 1: You don't realize when you buy night or whatever, you're

2155
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 1: not paying for function. They're actually bad for you. You're paying

2156
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 1: for the designers that they hire.

2157
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 2: Thank you, doctor Schulzer, that make it all look so pretty.

2158
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 1: And by the way, every time I go to the

2159
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,680
Speaker 1: shoe store and I walk by, a tear comes out

2160
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 1: of my face and I can't anymore shoes.

2161
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 2: So you can look like him? All right? It's called

2162
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 2: dms from donks.

2163
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 1: Actually about that have a little fun. All right, there's

2164
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 1: an ejaculating dog here, send me.

2165
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 2: This is what we elaborate this program. Let's hear the

2166
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:35,440
Speaker 2: first donk speak it. This is from at stevema narmautage

2167
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 2: eighty nine. All right, Steve is Vittori forgetting his athletic

2168
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 2: support cup on his way to the cage and needing

2169
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 2: it to be handed over by a coach. Is that

2170
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 2: the donkest thing in Mma?

2171
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: And if not, what is Kevin Randleman hitting his head

2172
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 1: on a pipe when he walked out to his fight

2173
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: and the fight had to be canceled? Dog?

2174
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 2: That's bad?

2175
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 1: Rest in peace to the legend. We love Kevin Randleman

2176
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:02,839
Speaker 1: around here, but that he definitely did that. Also, Victory

2177
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: wearing his fucking venom shorts backwards?

2178
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 2: Is that's up there? That's up there.

2179
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 4: I'm thinking of the guy on Tough who trained with Steepen.

2180
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 4: I think his name was like John Gunther and he

2181
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 4: claimed he had his esophagus tube coated with TVC pipe

2182
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 4: so that he was unchokeable, and then I'm pretty.

2183
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 5: Sure he got choked out in like his first fight.

2184
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 2: That Bryce Mitchell shoot himself in the foot drill drill

2185
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 2: drilled himself in the ball sack me. I mean, could

2186
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 2: Victoria end up on like did he get a couple

2187
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 2: of votes for third team All donk and you wouldn't

2188
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 2: be surprised or what?

2189
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah that'd be one Yeah, sure.

2190
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 2: That's a hard profession. So no, one's a donk at

2191
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 2: the end of the day. But people do donk tastic things.

2192
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of, like what's the most go

2193
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 2: to like.

2194
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 1: Brian Ortega jumping up and down and turning his ankle

2195
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: when Bruce.

2196
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 4: What about like Clay Guida just getting fucking slapped so

2197
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 4: hard right before he goes into a So that's pretty donkish.

2198
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it does it? Does it? Does it hurt

2199
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 1: his performance? I don't think that it does.

2200
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 4: There's no way for us to know he's only ever

2201
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 4: been slept.

2202
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 2: I think him getting like mildly can cussified by his

2203
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 2: brother no less. Yeah, let's go to the next question

2204
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 2: here from these donks. This one's from Flannels and JITs, Luke,

2205
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 2: He writes, in every damn episode, you got to support

2206
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 2: a guy like this, right, Support him.

2207
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: Luke, You support him, motherfucker all right?

2208
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 2: Is the lack of depth Flannels and JITs asks in

2209
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 2: the UFC's Light heavyweight and heavyweight divisions, partly due to

2210
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 2: top tier athletes like Brock Lesner, Kane Velsquez, and Cole

2211
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 2: Conrad choosing to remain in wrestling or transition to nogi

2212
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 2: grappling where they can earn solid money with the risk

2213
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 2: of CTE question mark there was that was a run

2214
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:45,799
Speaker 2: on sentime.

2215
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't know to what extent is affecting those divisions

2216
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 1: in particular. Obviously Gable steveson. It seems inevitable he goes

2217
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 1: to MMA because he washed out of everything else.

2218
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 2: But that's a bad ending.

2219
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Well do you go back to I was watching one

2220
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 1: of his dual meets recently, actually on TV or where

2221
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: I can't remember where I saw it, but he was

2222
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: just abusing these fuckings. Oh yeah, like it was insane.

2223
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: So he's gonna end up an MMA, which will be

2224
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, obviously a boost for the Ufcason.

2225
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 2: I really believe he's gonna fight.

2226
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what unless he gets some kind

2227
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: of job at like a d one school as like

2228
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 1: a coach, or they just give him huge money or something. Yeah,

2229
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna. He's gonna.

2230
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 2: Probably he just not have the heart for progrestling. I'm

2231
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 2: asking because I wasn't following that when it was happening.

2232
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 2: I don't fall out with WWE, but I don't know you're.

2233
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: Asking the wrong guy.

2234
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, clearly, Yeah, there's no doubt.

2235
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: So I think the fact that he didn't. He has

2236
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: allegations of sexual assault. I cannot and I think the

2237
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 1: fans turned on him for that. Again, allegations. I don't

2238
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: know what happened legally, but.

2239
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 2: Well, well, if he stays in MMA, they won't turn

2240
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 2: on Okay, so let's go to the next question.

2241
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 1: They might invite him to the White House.

2242
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 2: Boy Justin at Justin dot b underscore. Wow, that's very

2243
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 2: uh in code. It was great to see Keith Thurman back,

2244
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 2: but it made me think, what if he never got

2245
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 2: injured in twenty sixteen and Keith Thurman was the best

2246
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 2: welterweight on the planet. That is a true fact. He

2247
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 2: should have been in the mix with Spence and Crawford.

2248
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 2: Which other fighters boxing or MMA? Do you think that

2249
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: what if for Kane Velaskaz is a major what if?

2250
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 2: In my brain? Luke always okay, even more than you

2251
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 2: would guess that for the greatest featherweight of all time.

2252
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 2: You know that guy from Dugastan.

2253
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Is a beat.

2254
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, that's a what if for me in a

2255
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 2: big way for sure, for sure, But I think Kine

2256
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 2: is even bigger. Don't you think, like we never got

2257
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,719
Speaker 2: Kane Steve Pey that would have been great at the peak.

2258
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: Of their We've never got Kane, John Jones. We never

2259
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: like that dude.

2260
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 2: He could have beat He could have been the all

2261
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 2: time great not just heavyweight, all time greatest, right or

2262
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 2: my crazy what if Kane had not fallen apart or

2263
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 2: not lost in the ways that he did, and what

2264
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:48,799
Speaker 2: if he ran that table?

2265
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 1: If you were never there for when Kane Velaska has

2266
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 1: beat brock Lessner. That was one of those moments where

2267
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 1: I was like a star was born. How many times

2268
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 1: can you really say that, you know, like when Taporia

2269
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: beat Volk maybe, but when he definitely beat Helen apart. Yeah,

2270
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 1: so like you know, I do. He demolished Lesnar, He

2271
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 1: just fucking abused him like I And then.

2272
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 2: That was dardom.

2273
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 1: Actually, that was the first time I'd ever seen and

2274
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: I'm being serious because they hadn't gone to like well,

2275
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 1: they'd gone to Brazil, but in the United States. That

2276
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 1: was the first time I had seen a predominantly Hispanic

2277
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 1: audience at a UFC fight. Yes, And I was like,

2278
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: holy shit, they're about to cash in on this fucking

2279
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 1: transformed figure.

2280
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 2: And it just said John Jones, imagine if Kane was

2281
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 2: still around, Luke still active when John came of came of. No,

2282
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 2: I mean, imagine if we saw Caane and gun who

2283
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 2: wander a different, different circumstances, right, those would have been great.

2284
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 2: Is there anybody else that jumps out to you? Because

2285
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 2: Keith Thurman is a is a decent enough what if

2286
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 2: Like he did pop back into things for the Thermon Fighter,

2287
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 2: for that pay per view against Brios, but after his

2288
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 2: back to back huge fights of Sean Porter and then

2289
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 2: Danny Garcia, They're right, we never got that Spence fight.

2290
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:57,600
Speaker 2: We never got anyone in that stretch because he was

2291
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 2: always in and out of the lineup for something.

2292
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 1: How much of that was injury?

2293
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 2: Pretty much?

2294
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 1: All of it, all of it. Yeah, it was a

2295
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: bicep shoulder thing, right, Yeah.

2296
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 2: But it was like a few things. And then he

2297
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 2: got married in between then, and some people thought he

2298
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 2: lost the fire. But when he came back against Pakio, dude,

2299
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I he lost, but that that was a

2300
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 2: great performance out of Keith. And but he had some

2301
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 2: shaky moments. Remember leading into the Pachaio fight. Js Aesito

2302
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 2: almost knocked him out against the Ropes.

2303
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. He had a couple of those

2304
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 1: dropped him right, yes, yeah, going backwards I think.

2305
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:26,719
Speaker 2: Dropped him in the first round on like an awkward

2306
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 2: kind of cross jab but also hurt him to the

2307
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,680
Speaker 2: body lead, you know. But great for Keith with that win,

2308
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 2: and I'd love to see Tim Zuo spend a few

2309
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 2: of them.

2310
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what after that win against uh

2311
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 1: mister brock Jarvis, definitely some renewed interest.

2312
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 2: There you go at thirty six, No less, let's hit

2313
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 2: the next one here. This is from Telvin key Pop

2314
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:50,679
Speaker 2: but one of Hawaii's finest. Damn it wow? Telvin asked better? Oh, Telvin,

2315
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 2: can you help out be Jpin out there? And this

2316
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 2: is not a bit? Seriously like all hands on deck

2317
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 2: right now? Better rock band? He asks? Metallica or Rage

2318
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 2: again the machine? These are two Alzheimers.

2319
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 1: Here are they rock bands?

2320
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:06,719
Speaker 2: I mean Metallica is heavy metal?

2321
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 1: Well, okay, they were heavy metal. They're maybe closer to.

2322
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 2: Rock now is this a friends don't let friends get

2323
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 2: a haircuts moment or what?

2324
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? And then Rage? I don't know how you would

2325
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: properly classify them, I guess.

2326
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 2: I mean they're almost rock rap alternative, like there's a

2327
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,719
Speaker 2: lot going on there, but Ultimately, they're both rock. Who

2328
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 2: is who, in your opinion, is the better band historically?

2329
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: I think that the even with the problems with their catalog. Nevertheless, Metallic,

2330
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 1: this catalog is much deeper.

2331
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 2: I think you gotta take Metallica here. You think you

2332
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 2: have to long on. Look, you have a clue in

2333
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 2: this in these departments.

2334
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 4: So what are you going to say? I got to

2335
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:41,839
Speaker 4: disagree completely.

2336
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: Its Rage? Bring it Rage. They've had three albums.

2337
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 4: With the exception of Enter Sandman. Every time Mariano Rivera

2338
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 4: came out to save the game. I mean, I don't

2339
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 4: listen to Metallica whatsoever, but.

2340
01:41:56,120 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for your listen to us. Close up shop.

2341
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I saw Rage recently.

2342
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:06,600
Speaker 2: I hold up, please tell me it did. Come on,

2343
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 2: do they still bring.

2344
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: In They fucking brought the house down? They do Rage,

2345
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: A guess. I saw them at the Capitol Wan Arena.

2346
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 1: First of all, it was a little Zack injured for this.

2347
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 1: He was sitting down the whole time. But dude, you could, like,

2348
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 1: if you just close your eyes, you couldn't tell. You

2349
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 1: couldn't tell. Their sound was so fucking good. I remember

2350
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: talking to my wife, I'm like it sounds like they're

2351
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 1: trying to cut a live album to release at a

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01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 1: later date.

2353
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 2: Their is awesome.

2354
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: You know, Tim, Tim b whatever they call him, Tim, Dude.

2355
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 1: They I don't know if they're ever going to go

2356
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,719
Speaker 1: back on tour again. If they do, fucking go see.

2357
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:46,560
Speaker 2: That, let's go, let's go. There are problems with Metallica's

2358
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:52,480
Speaker 2: turns at times, but dude, that's a monster catalog longevity quality.

2359
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 2: The music did change over time. I mean as much

2360
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:58,640
Speaker 2: as people can you know, bring up negative reactions to

2361
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 2: when they went commercial. That was freaking awesome though.

2362
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: So you have the three albums from Rage, and then

2363
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 1: they have the like the covers album.

2364
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 2: They got a couple more than they're great. They're all

2365
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 2: great in my opinion, Rage, like I don't they haven't

2366
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 2: given me like for me.

2367
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 1: The fact that you could go, let's see kill them All,

2368
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets and Justice for All

2369
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 1: you could stop there and then just add some of

2370
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 1: the bread fan from the garage inks to me, that's

2371
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 1: enough to put.

2372
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 2: Them over load, reload, even with the give give me,

2373
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 2: give me.

2374
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: That much I desire off stage, that.

2375
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 2: Rock, the tin pan drums of sant Anger I always

2376
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 2: talk about that stretch being the worst stretch in rock history,

2377
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 2: when when like Nickelback was on top and Creed and

2378
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 2: all that. Dude, don't forget Metallica tried to be a major, leading,

2379
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 2: leading player in that in that regard, do we have

2380
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 2: any more d ms from these donks? Yeah? How about hey,

2381
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 2: happy happy Saint Patrick's Day to what? What did he

2382
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 2: say it's pronounced? Was it like sheering?

2383
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:50,719
Speaker 1: I think it's apple sauce?

2384
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well sauce, underscored Delaney. What didn't he say, come on,

2385
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 2: long on, look, you need to be.

2386
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 4: The If you read the rest of the question, he says,

2387
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 4: it's actually shit stick McGee.

2388
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 2: Okay, he says, maybe I should read the lay in

2389
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 2: these words in honor of Saint Patrick's Day. Do you

2390
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 2: have any memorable moments interacting with the Irish.

2391
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 1: I've told the story a million times. My brother lived

2392
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 1: in London, and he was right when he said that

2393
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 1: the You know, if you ever go to London, the

2394
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 1: Irish are just friendlier than the English. I don't give

2395
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: a fuck if the English are watching. We love him,

2396
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,680
Speaker 1: but sorry, the Irish are friendlier. And I go to

2397
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,600
Speaker 1: I go to visit my brother. He worked behind in

2398
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 1: uh Leicester Square, and one of his co workers was

2399
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,759
Speaker 1: Irish and we went to lunch and this motherfucker ordered

2400
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: five pints at lunch and not like that, but that's

2401
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 1: the American bullshit pint, like the real pint. And then

2402
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: went back to work and asked. My brother's like, yo,

2403
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 1: you're fucking co workers and alcoholic. He's like, dude, this

2404
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 1: is this is just what they do here. And I

2405
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: was like, I couldn't fucking believe how many they could.

2406
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 2: Hang out with the Sabbatkas from season two of The

2407
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 2: Wire down on the dock.

2408
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 1: You know the Wire season two bitches back to.

2409
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 2: The dock talking about Yeah, although that kid was a

2410
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,080
Speaker 2: piece of shit, he deserved to go down the way.

2411
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 1: A little bit.

2412
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, there you go. Uh what else

2413
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 2: was that guy asking that question? And know ted that

2414
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 2: was yeah shit stick McGee is the correct pronunciation. But

2415
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 2: shout out to that fella you are in chi Ran

2416
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 2: Hey Gaelic Delandy, thank you, sir, thank you. I think

2417
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:19,799
Speaker 2: that's his name is pronounced BC had a seizure.

2418
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 1: There you go.

2419
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, that's it right, That's all we got for

2420
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 2: that absolute bullshit. If you want to reach the show,

2421
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 2: by the way, and we do appreciate the fans contributing.

2422
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 2: Contact the show at Morning Combat at gmail dot com.

2423
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 2: We're talking about Friday's Dead Wrongs fan submissions showing Mikey

2424
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 2: you're under Mikey.

2425
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 1: Mikey specifically said, I want to see your Buttle's kidding.

2426
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 2: We're kidding, but wow, yeah, that's disgusting. And also, you know,

2427
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 2: some people said, look, our debate when way too long

2428
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 2: on Friday. It did, but we might be onto something.

2429
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:55,560
Speaker 2: I know other people hate it. They don't want to

2430
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 2: see anyone talking about m m A. But you and

2431
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 2: I and maybe even noo Ceda.

2432
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 1: Maybe I think if we can, I think if we

2433
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 1: can really tighten it up, which we can, we can

2434
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 1: try that again. Okay, well we have to tighten it

2435
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: up first.

2436
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 2: I like interacting with the people in Safetest.

2437
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:10,800
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. But you got, but

2438
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:12,599
Speaker 1: they're right, you got. It's got to be snappy.

2439
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 2: You know, we have one more segment for you, and

2440
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 2: you can argue it's probably the best in the entire industry, right,

2441
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 2: I mean, name a segment people are talking about more

2442
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 2: than this one. It's when BC scours the globe for

2443
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:24,639
Speaker 2: the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly,

2444
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 2: the in between, combat sports and the world beyond that.

2445
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 2: This one's called Have you seen this ship, Luke? Not

2446
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 2: all bad when the UFC goes to the Apex. How

2447
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 2: about this wholesome moment between GSP and Morob Devlishvili tell

2448
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 2: you again.

2449
01:46:48,920 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 11: I record, no congras, you doing it better than anyone.

2450
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys most egged out. Yeah, the record are made

2451
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 2: to be broken.

2452
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 3: A big pleasure us.

2453
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 2: I love you. Georgia people are very tough. A lot

2454
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 2: of Georgia and guys helped me with my wrestling back home.

2455
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 2: So I'm very happy that you were a president, Luke.

2456
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 2: That made me feel really good. If that ended in

2457
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:23,560
Speaker 2: the reach around, I wouldn't have protested, you know what

2458
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:25,520
Speaker 2: I mean? Like that? That was Bushido.

2459
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:29,520
Speaker 1: People love the They love the Canadian Goat.

2460
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 2: I mean, what a nice guy. Right, That's like being

2461
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 2: at a cocktail party around crazy people. Look, that was great,

2462
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 2: all right?

2463
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 1: So he ended up with Shack that night, him and Delia.

2464
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 2: Yes, I wish I had gotten that in here in time.

2465
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:44,440
Speaker 2: Damn Happy Saint Patty's Day. Do all of our Irish

2466
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 2: people out there okay, and we met a lot of

2467
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 2: them in our time with m K. Luke. To celebrate it,

2468
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 2: let's go to a college party. Watch this. Uh you

2469
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 2: know what Saint Patty's Day is all about? In the college?

2470
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Hell yeah, bro, you gotta see that again.

2471
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:00,560
Speaker 2: Don't know if you saw it.

2472
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 1: You ain't dying at a college party? How good is it?

2473
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 2: Not? Very this? This looks like what I don't know

2474
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 2: what you look?

2475
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the fucking disaster. Oh dude. Yeah,

2476
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many fraternity houses I've I've

2477
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,679
Speaker 1: been in my life where I found maggots in the sink.

2478
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 2: See that's why I.

2479
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 1: Rotted, burned up couches in the backyard. So you know,

2480
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 1: it's for people that can't stay to look at me,

2481
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 1: Look at me, look at me. Some of the best

2482
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: days of my life.

2483
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 2: Luke. I love Irish kids when they show up on

2484
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 2: live TV because, like regional m m A, anything can happen.

2485
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 2: Let's go over to Schlagger. Here's with the kids.

2486
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 1: Okay, the is up with this clip? Oh they're about

2487
01:48:56,040 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: to get sexual? Yeah, there they go there it.

2488
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 2: Is okay, okay, okay, that went too far? That is

2489
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 2: that is awesome, Luke, everybody has a favorite irishman? Would

2490
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 2: you say that's true?

2491
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. Well, the I don't

2492
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 1: know if the Brits do.

2493
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 2: The Irish media caught up with Trump to ask him

2494
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 2: who his favorite is.

2495
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 12: Caught there's so many? Are you kidding me? Well, I

2496
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 12: do happen to like you fighter. He's a he's got

2497
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 12: the best tattoos I've ever seen. I don't know if

2498
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 12: I'm a baker.

2499
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 3: Boy.

2500
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 4: You have.

2501
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 12: You have Micha O'Connor's great, right, you know, talking about Connor,

2502
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 12: but you have a lot of you have a lot

2503
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 12: of great Irish fighters, actually great fighters.

2504
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. But I mean except

2505
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 2: for like the recent rape trial. You know it's great.

2506
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean except for uh, I can't even get

2507
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 1: into it.

2508
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 2: But then again, he went at the White House said

2509
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 2: that was kind of shocking.

2510
01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 1: To see that, is it? I mean, given where we

2511
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 1: are is wild?

2512
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 2: That was wild. Let's continue the Connor fund. He was

2513
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 2: just celebrating Saint Patti's day in his own bar. What's

2514
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 2: it called the Forged iron n I don't know what

2515
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:12,879
Speaker 2: is it? Well, guess who showed up Luke, Internet Royalty,

2516
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 2: the Nelk Boys, Baby Jesus, I think this is now

2517
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty six consecutive.

2518
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:25,640
Speaker 1: Once again, the cal ripkin like streak of McGregor not

2519
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 1: being sober has continued. You know what, that was probably

2520
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 1: the only one he had that night, and then he

2521
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 1: went home early.

2522
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 2: Well, no, he had a way for Andrew Date to come over.

2523
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 2: This is great. Well, this is unbelievable. Hey, new segment alert.

2524
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 2: It's called Selfie's done wrong. Let's watch. Oh yeah, we're

2525
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 2: at the bar. We're getting drunk.

2526
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, what the fuck?

2527
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 2: God? Oh? Just dogs fighting celebrating Saint Patrick's day fade. Yeah,

2528
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 2: also this one also, Okay, we're gonna have to clean

2529
01:50:58,560 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 2: that up behind her.

2530
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 1: That is just Uh, you probably dated that girl in

2531
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: the back.

2532
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 2: Probably probably after it happened.

2533
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably.

2534
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 2: You probably had no shame at these frat parties to

2535
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 2: help him, like wipe the.

2536
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 1: Wasn't a predator, Okay, I mean I was just I

2537
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:11,599
Speaker 1: was just also drunk.

2538
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 2: You can get selfie's at Mariah Carry concerts too. You

2539
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 2: can also get fistfights. Watch this.

2540
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:23,919
Speaker 1: Who's scrapping out there? At least least ship when Karen's attacked.

2541
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,720
Speaker 2: Yet they still they still completed the post. That was

2542
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 2: That was great.

2543
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 1: We paid good money for those motherfucking seats.

2544
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 2: You know, uh, Luke, you know that term carrying water?

2545
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, it was.

2546
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 2: Never more true for this kid.

2547
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 1: Literally ahead, Why do we need this much water?

2548
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 4: Ship?

2549
01:51:45,880 --> 01:52:00,120
Speaker 1: No, don't go, don't shot, stop stop stop? Yes, it

2550
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 1: was great.

2551
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,639
Speaker 2: All right, speaking of fluids, it's time for your body

2552
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 2: shot of the week. Let's go to regional boxing, where

2553
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 2: anything can happened, Luke, including a left hook.

2554
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:15,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I've watched ten clips and they're all fist fighting

2555
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 1: and vomiting. What the fuck are you doing?

2556
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 2: Hey? John Jones had a big week, Luke.

2557
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 1: First of all, fist fighting and vomiting.

2558
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 2: Tom Aspernall sentiment. I think this is real, you don't.

2559
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 1: I think this is photoshopped?

2560
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 2: From who you think? The John Jones response to so

2561
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 2: this is a live Instagram video from Pereirasprera talking about

2562
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 2: the loss.

2563
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: I think this is photoshopped. I don't believe this is you.

2564
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 2: Don't think Johnny Bones put disappointed? Oh you so you

2565
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 2: think I fell for the traffic?

2566
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: I think you have put up fake news here?

2567
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know that.

2568
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I believe that long.

2569
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 4: Look do you know that today's the first time I'm

2570
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 4: seeing it, So I don't know.

2571
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm okay, I'll I'll apologize to John fake news

2572
01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 2: to his face, and then ask him about his twenties. Yes, Luke, speaking.

2573
01:52:57,760 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 1: Of Bony, you just you just won't get over it.

2574
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 2: Watch Bonie's new haircut.

2575
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 1: Tell me if you like it, Luk, the Kimbo slice

2576
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 1: Brian ever saw a bit?

2577
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about that? Look good? Do

2578
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 2: you think he'd fight with that? You think that's a

2579
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:12,879
Speaker 2: direction he's running away from.

2580
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:17,680
Speaker 1: As this way to duck? There you go, he might

2581
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 1: still fight him. We don't know that. We don't know that.

2582
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 2: He might still You know the good thing about WW

2583
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:23,680
Speaker 2: these days, Luke, you go as a fan, you can

2584
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 2: get a handful.

2585
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or so this dude?

2586
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa.

2587
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 3: That?

2588
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 2: They're right there as assault brother.

2589
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't do that.

2590
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 2: Out a second.

2591
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. Do that, don't

2592
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 1: do that.

2593
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 2: That is unbelievable.

2594
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 1: That is one entitled little ship head.

2595
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:51,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they got more of him. Let's go to Yukon.

2596
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:53,639
Speaker 4: That's the best part about being a Yukon fan.

2597
01:53:56,479 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 7: I might get in trouble for saying this all the fucking.

2598
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 2: Horse well have misogyny today and they show this is unbelievable.

2599
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 1: Can you believe that one day that guy is gonna

2600
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 1: have a job interview and they're like, mister Steve, it

2601
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 1: says here that you did a man on the street

2602
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 1: interview in uh Connecticut. Well, let's review the tape horse

2603
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:21,679
Speaker 1: you can you can.

2604
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 2: Leave not quite hawked too. Oh yeah, that guy should

2605
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 2: get a meme coin.

2606
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 1: Here's here's my plan. We need an mk ship coin. Yes,

2607
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 1: we need to rug pull our entire audience and then

2608
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 1: just cancel the show and move to Bermuda.

2609
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 2: People always asking me why why is it always weird

2610
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 2: on these documentaries? You traveling with Luke, It's probably a

2611
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 2: normal experience. And then I show them this clip. I mean,

2612
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 2: this is the kind of this is the kind of

2613
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 2: you know, communication I get back from Luke on on

2614
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 2: our trips.

2615
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 1: This motherfucking koala is my spirit and there it is.

2616
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 2: There it is. Let's watch fat pee. I'm sorry that

2617
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 2: this overweight high calorie.

2618
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 1: Yes, oh they're about to sink this motherfucking boat. Dude,

2619
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 1: you got You got some big motherfuckers on this boat.

2620
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 2: They probably have a weight limit, right, Oh.

2621
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 1: My god, dog, he just sick the whole thing.

2622
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, hey, I want to see the greatest play

2623
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 2: in pickleball history. Let's go slow motion and no, they

2624
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 2: already asked this Jay Aaron in this he's not oh nice, save.

2625
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 1: Oh ship balls, He's gonna dunk the fuck out of that.

2626
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 2: Oh in m m a.

2627
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 1: The referee would warn him.

2628
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:46,320
Speaker 2: That's right, stay for the ending. What a finish? All right, Hey, time.

2629
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 1: For some specim some sports sneak attacks.

2630
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 2: Let's watch this South American soccer event.

2631
01:55:52,320 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 13: It's this is this is I think Venezuela.

2632
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 2: Keep your eyes on the referee at the end of

2633
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 2: this basketball game.

2634
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, oh what the fuck? Oh shit? Oh ship,

2635
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 1: Now now you're fighting for your life.

2636
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 2: On faces of death seven. Oh my wow.

2637
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 1: You know he hit him. You know what he hit

2638
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 1: him with. He hit him with the remember DC to

2639
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 1: Gustafson hit him.

2640
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:29,120
Speaker 2: With the old three sixty and then the suplex city

2641
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 2: Holy ship.

2642
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 1: Let me just see the beginning of that, Like who

2643
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 1: started it?

2644
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. It looks like they're talking.

2645
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 1: It looks like the ref starts it.

2646
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 2: And then the then the whole family rightfully so jumped

2647
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 2: in at that point. I don't know they, I don't

2648
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 2: know the origin. I don't know who's that fault. But

2649
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 2: that's a gnarly video.

2650
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean hard to say exactly what happened before

2651
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 1: the kid Holy fuck? Wow.

2652
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 2: Uh you know what? You should never trust a wet

2653
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 2: fart old people on a golf cart.

2654
01:56:54,080 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true, because that's why I'm I'm telling

2655
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 1: you even have the spot right here.

2656
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 10: It's at the radio.

2657
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:09,920
Speaker 1: It's a compartments you.

2658
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 7: Can put in here.

2659
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 1: He's trying to sell this. Yeah. Oh, he's just gonna

2660
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 1: slam the gas like a fucking moron. Be careful, he

2661
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 1: tells him, be careful, you old piece of ship. Yeah yeah,

2662
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean listen, listen. Yeah, you need somebody needs to

2663
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 1: euthanize that bitch.

2664
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's too Farvork, that's too far.

2665
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 1: All right?

2666
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 2: Wow wow okay, uh Luke, your favorite person on the

2667
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 2: internet is back, the weird cake lady.

2668
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 1: This fucking demonic creature. Send her to Guantanamo Bay.

2669
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 2: She's very creative. You wouldn't take a bite of that.

2670
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 1: I would throw her out of a moving plane. Go

2671
01:57:58,880 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 1: eat some to funk it.

2672
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 2: She's a seck creature's edible, Luke, everything.

2673
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 1: Disgusting, nightmare fueled idiot. Even though the tile on the wall,

2674
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 1: she's gonna start cutting open her child and too fucking cannibal.

2675
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 2: Alright, Hey, let's go to the T shirt of the week.

2676
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:22,680
Speaker 1: Almost every hand you've ever shaken has had a dick

2677
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 1: in it. This guy looks like he's not having the

2678
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:27,120
Speaker 1: best day ever.

2679
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 2: No, Luke, trivia time. Do you know what was the

2680
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 2: first video music video ever aired on MTV?

2681
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:34,000
Speaker 1: Video Killed the Radio.

2682
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 2: Star by the Buggles. Yes, great, great answer. Let's go

2683
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 2: to the meme.

2684
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 1: Dude, it's twenty twenty five and we're doing O. J.

2685
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 1: Simpson means, holy.

2686
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:52,160
Speaker 2: Shit, Luke, how important would you say it is to

2687
01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 2: start your day with a balanced breakfast?

2688
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:55,480
Speaker 3: Not very cereal?

2689
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 1: Is probably the worst way you can possibly start your morning.

2690
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 2: Would that would be? That would be? That would be?

2691
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna be like, you know, bagels is a

2692
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 1: better option than terrorism.

2693
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the only thing we can do is close

2694
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 2: with some flatulence you in. I mean, all right, let's

2695
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 2: hit it. Let's hit it.

2696
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:17,840
Speaker 4: Can I get a witness.

2697
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:29,040
Speaker 1: Dude, contact is bonkers, bonkers bonkers dude, Don't get me wrong.

2698
01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 1: I find that hilarious. But there's something wrong with that guy.

2699
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 2: Oh, that guy's grosses, something wrong with that. I think

2700
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:35,480
Speaker 2: we got a couple more of these.

2701
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 9: I just have one question to the man that asked

2702
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 9: me to fart in a balloon and nail it to him, dude.

2703
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 5: What's your fucking andress?

2704
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 2: And finally, that's a good bit. That's a good bit

2705
01:59:50,720 --> 02:00:00,120
Speaker 2: that listen to this, to this oh going all the way,

2706
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:03,840
Speaker 2: that's such a predator.

2707
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:05,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, you can burn him alive.

2708
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 2: Oh so yeah, that's the ship of the week.

2709
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 1: I hope you saw it A minus.

2710
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Wow, it was controversial. I don't know if

2711
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:16,720
Speaker 2: it was. I means are yeah, I mean, but the

2712
02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 2: OJ into the nine to eleven was probably ill advised.

2713
02:00:19,120 --> 02:00:22,240
Speaker 2: That best, But that's yeah, that's that's what we got

2714
02:00:22,240 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 2: for you. You can reach the show again in Morning

2715
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 2: Combat at gmail dot com. We would like you to

2716
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:30,480
Speaker 2: let's see some good fans ups for this Friday. Also,

2717
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 2: we're like in a we're in a mid merch creation mode.

2718
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:35,080
Speaker 2: We're in mid merch creation mode.

2719
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 1: We are uh long, I'll look can tell you we're

2720
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:42,400
Speaker 1: actively working on merch that's a real thing we're doing, right, Yeah.

2721
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 2: We're working on it and soon coming soon. Yes, maybe

2722
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:47,480
Speaker 2: like the third Dune movie.

2723
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:51,280
Speaker 1: Maybe, I do like the second Dune movie.

2724
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:53,360
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

2725
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:53,960
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

2726
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 2: I watch it on every flight just to get another

2727
02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:58,040
Speaker 2: taste of it.

2728
02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 1: Where are you on? Like Lord of the Ring and stuff?

2729
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 2: I don't touch those? Should I?

2730
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 1: I'll say this for like, if you like, like a

2731
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 1: flight to Europe or something, you can kill two of

2732
02:01:06,920 --> 02:01:08,640
Speaker 1: those and it takes up almost the entire flight.

2733
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 2: I know, Like I'm not gonna be a naive. I

2734
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:13,680
Speaker 2: know I'll enjoy it. I just have no want to

2735
02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:15,520
Speaker 2: do that or Potter under any circuits.

2736
02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, I mean, I don't know if

2737
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:18,880
Speaker 1: Peter Jackson wants you to watch that movie on an

2738
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 1: eight inch screen, but sure you know.

2739
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:22,960
Speaker 2: It would be a theater. Like I cannot believe you

2740
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:24,640
Speaker 2: did not go to Doune two in the theater when

2741
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:26,520
Speaker 2: you had the chance that you just decided that in

2742
02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 2: your house it would be an equivalent experience.

2743
02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 1: I did buy a new TV.

2744
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think you know. I did, like

2745
02:01:32,920 --> 02:01:34,440
Speaker 2: pretty nice, I did the Imax.

2746
02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:36,240
Speaker 1: I did the Imax.

2747
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:37,880
Speaker 2: They it was like one night where you can do

2748
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 2: it all you could. You could like pay it was

2749
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:43,680
Speaker 2: IMAX and it was not three D, but like the Booty,

2750
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 2: they had the bigger speakers that shake the Dolby Yeah yeah,

2751
02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:49,760
Speaker 2: but Dolby Surround bullshit. But it was amazing. It was

2752
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:52,160
Speaker 2: absolutely great. I wanted to put three D on top

2753
02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:53,520
Speaker 2: of that. But one of my sons was like, Dad, like,

2754
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:55,280
Speaker 2: why can't we just watch a movie like normal people.

2755
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't always have to be like a like a

2756
02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:57,880
Speaker 2: roller coaster.

2757
02:01:57,880 --> 02:01:59,360
Speaker 1: You know what? I realized. I didn't know this, but

2758
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 1: I I saw it. I maybe I've seen it before,

2759
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 1: but I got reminded of it recently. I didn't know

2760
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:09,520
Speaker 1: that on Uber eats you can order from the movie

2761
02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 1: theater like their popcorn, and then they get and their

2762
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:15,320
Speaker 1: sodas and shit and then have it sent to you.

2763
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's both genius and incredibly disturbing.

2764
02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you've used Uber eats

2765
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:24,839
Speaker 2: much of late, but like the way that they're enticing

2766
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:27,680
Speaker 2: you to add on to your order in it not

2767
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:30,400
Speaker 2: costing any bundle whatever you want to bundle. The seven

2768
02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:32,160
Speaker 2: to eleven and get a case of water and all

2769
02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:33,880
Speaker 2: these snacks and a slurpy and shit and you can

2770
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 2: just hit like yeah, so.

2771
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 1: It's it's dangerous. Ye I don't want that at all.

2772
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 2: All right? Well, hey Long Island, look, thank you for

2773
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:41,800
Speaker 2: playing today? All right? You got any dates coming up?

2774
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:44,560
Speaker 5: You got the I got my birthday this week Thursday?

2775
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:47,160
Speaker 1: Oh hey, you gotta do anything special for it.

2776
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:49,480
Speaker 4: I'd probably just get drunk and you know, have a

2777
02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:49,920
Speaker 4: good time.

2778
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:52,120
Speaker 2: What age are you turning if you don't mind the

2779
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Speaker 2: people knowing?

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Speaker 5: It's my Patrick Ewing year thirty three?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, the sweatiest man alive. You know he would did.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget watching him just dunk on motherfuckers either

2783
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Speaker 1: at Georgetown or with the Knicks, and don't have to

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Speaker 1: be that dude with the with the broom right behind him.

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Speaker 1: Know who was.

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Speaker 2: Underrated in that is Kevin McHale. I was a big

2787
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Speaker 2: Celtics fan. Every time out or follows he's grabbing a towel,

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Speaker 2: he's like bathing in it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those big ass dudes, they sweat a.

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Speaker 2: Lot, they do, They do tend to do that. All right,

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Speaker 2: Well that's the damn show for this week. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. Take care

2793
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Speaker 2: of yourself. Friday is a ten am Eastern start. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for helping me accommodate my schedule. We're still gonna

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Speaker 2: bang though on Friday. Okay, Alabama Power Chinese Power, just

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Speaker 2: like Big Bang Zang said, that's lt PC. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Roddy