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Speaker 1: This He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: Well come back, I am Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt it is never too early to

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Speaker 2: talk fantasy football.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think you're right under underdog

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Speaker 3: stuff and basketball stuff is starting to really heat up.

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Speaker 3: I've got a Dynasty rookie draft in two days, you know,

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Speaker 3: so like people are starting to I did a Dynasty

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Speaker 3: podcast this morning talking about you know, would you rather

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Speaker 3: have Aconkie or Leggett? You know what I mean? Those

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Speaker 3: type of things are so all these landing spots have

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Speaker 3: gone a long way. What's Dallas doing at running back?

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Speaker 3: You know? I mean, there's a lot of stuff to

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Speaker 3: talk about. So I'm cool with it. Let's dig in.

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Speaker 3: This is the first segment and I have not given

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Speaker 3: it a lot of thought, but.

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking at what I got here is fantasypros

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Speaker 2: dot COM's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they do good work.

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Speaker 2: They're tears on where some of these guys are at.

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily, I mean, I guess, but we'll look him

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Speaker 2: at in the tier.

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Speaker 3: Like the Daniel Jeremiah approach, like early on, he just

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Speaker 3: wants to get all the prospects in the right neighborhood

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Speaker 3: and get him in the right house, you know, and

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Speaker 3: figure it out from there.

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Speaker 2: So you're tier one players, Chris all positions or all positions. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're talking Christian McCaffrey, Ceedee Lamb, Tyreek Hill, Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 3: Okay, again, these things aren't off the tip of my tongue.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think anything is unlike the others. I

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Speaker 3: think McCaffrey definitely stands alone as the best running back

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Speaker 2: And then those four receivers.

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Speaker 3: I think, and we'll say with tier two s say.

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Speaker 2: Tier two is aman Ross Saint Brown.

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Speaker 3: He'd be behind those guys B.

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Speaker 2: Jean Robinson, Brees Hall, A J. Brown, Puka Nikua, Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Are you there on Nikua?

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Speaker 2: I am not.

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Speaker 3: I think he'd be a tier below.

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Speaker 2: I'm not putting him up there with aj between A. J.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's below those guys. I just need

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Speaker 3: to see more. And the cup's going away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on the roster and they're still going to

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Speaker 2: throw the ball.

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Speaker 3: Would you put Taylor in the same tier as Hall

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Speaker 3: and bijonh Yes, I'm cool with them in two and

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Speaker 3: three in whatever order.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Taylor's really good. Yeah, okay, that doesn't

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Speaker 3: sound crazy to me though.

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Speaker 2: Tier three this is players twelve through eighteen, Jamier Gibbs,

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, Brandon Ayuk, Garrett Wilson, Josh Allen, Kieran Williams

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Speaker 2: or Karen Williams, I should say, and Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 3: I haven't said that before we started doing a list

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Speaker 3: that I know Harrison Junior in best Ball is going

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Speaker 3: really high, like top ten receivers.

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Speaker 2: Well, there he is. Yeah, he's a wide receiver ten.

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Speaker 3: Very little target competition. McBride at it might actually help them,

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. I'm not thinking Josh Allen that high.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I can do that. Who was the

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Speaker 2: In Tier four, obviously they are starting to get a

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Speaker 3: That's one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jalen Hurts, DJ Moore, Travis Atn, Nico Collins, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 3: Okay, is the Porter your tight end one? Kelsey just

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Speaker 3: Two home run receivers. He's probably not more big plays

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Speaker 3: going forward. I had to give that some thought, but

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Speaker 3: I don't love the quarterback two situation now. Maybe makes

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Speaker 3: I kind of like those younger backs that aren't as

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Speaker 2: There's also more. It's a little scarier though, taking those

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Speaker 3: Sure, I mean those guys could get benched. Yeah, I mean, oh,

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Speaker 3: I hear, that's why you're getting at that price. But

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Speaker 3: there's not a great group of good young backs in

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Speaker 3: that neighborhood. I mean, that's Bijeon, that's Gibbs, They're gone.

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Speaker 2: DeVante Smith, Joe Mixon, Cooper Cup, Stefan Diggs, George Pickens.

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Speaker 3: I don't promise it was Kelsey three. I remember you

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Speaker 3: I'm comfortable with McBride is tight end four maybe even better.

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Speaker 3: I would definitely shop in that quarterback neighborhood though, before

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Speaker 2: I kind of like some of those receivers there as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let just think where you were getting DeVante

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people were drafted him in like twelve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and They just gave him a ton of money

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Speaker 2: Uh. Tier seven Rashid Rice, Aaron Jones, James Connor, Rmandre Stevenson,

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Speaker 3: to Derrick Henry in round two. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 3: Who what about like Pollard get that price? I mean

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Speaker 3: he's only fighting Taji Spears. Yeah, his season didn't end

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Speaker 3: up as bad as people think. It just wasn't Splashy

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Speaker 2: Something like that that's in the seventies.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so seventh round he can be my running back. Three.

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Speaker 2: Tier eight is Roma Duneja.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely behind neighbors in Harrison, though.

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Speaker 2: Two at Tago Vailoa, Dalton King Kid is tight end six.

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Speaker 3: I thin it's pretty bad place to shop either.

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Speaker 2: I think Pitts could.

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Speaker 2: I think Pitts is tight end eight. Yeah, this could

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Speaker 3: He was a hurt a lot last year.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, Christian Watson, Marquise Brown, Justin Herbert. Look, but

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Speaker 2: it's QB fourteen. They're paying them a lot of money

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Speaker 3: I know they're gonna run the ball like crazy, but

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Speaker 3: they're also gonna be losing a lot. I'll take Herbert

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Speaker 2: seven Jalen Warren, he is running back thirty three.

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Speaker 3: I gladly play that price for him. There's ten tight ends.

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Speaker 2: I like a bunch of them there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't love Ferguson, but you can give me

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Speaker 3: Goddard as tight end ten or eleven or something like that,

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Speaker 2: Or I actually like Ferguson. Like, I know, they throw

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Speaker 2: them the football. Dallas throws the ball to the tight ends.

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Speaker 3: That's you know me. I'm really hard on Ferguson and

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Speaker 2: You hate this white tight ends. That's what That's what

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Speaker 3: Non athletic tight ends.

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Speaker 3: Their quarterback loves them, and they get schemed up well,

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Speaker 3: and they're in good systems. I know all that, and

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Speaker 3: they just never end up on my team. Give me

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Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts is a rookie and throw caution to the wind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, you know.

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Speaker 3: And as usual, there's a ton of quarterbacks you could

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Speaker 3: Did you mention Chase Brown yet? No? Do they think

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Speaker 3: Moscow is ahead of Brown? Right now? Yes, probably that's

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Speaker 3: an interesting backfield though.

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Speaker 3: What's really interesting is I hadn't given this much thought,

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Speaker 3: but a lot of the quote running back needy teams

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Speaker 3: didn't draft a running back. Yeah, I mean, Dallas is

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Speaker 3: the top of the list, but there were a lot

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Speaker 3: of really good landing spots that didn't end up in

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Speaker 3: great landing spots his rookies.

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Speaker 3: That's the first list I've seen or you know, checked

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Speaker 2: They'll start to see some some movement with some of

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Speaker 2: See where that goes. But interesting? Yeah, yeah, Christian Watson

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Speaker 3: Oh big a call about him?

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Speaker 2: Oh come back, I am Dale. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt I'm looking here at bet MGM and

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Speaker 3: Okay, I have not seen post draft ones.

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Speaker 2: For the upcoming scene this. These would be the post

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Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. This is in alphabetical order. Arizona Cardinals are

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Speaker 2: six and a half. More juice towards the over on

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Speaker 3: I think I'm going under. Like it's easy to this

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Speaker 3: everything's gonna be better. I still think that roster needs

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Speaker 3: coaching staff. They outperformed this time last year. They were

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Speaker 3: the lowest number in the league, right you know, there

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Speaker 3: was pretty substantially, pretty substantially, and they out kick that.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if they can get to eight.

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Speaker 2: To make the playoffs there plus three fifty to miss

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Speaker 3: So okay. Yeah, I mean that's pretty far.

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Speaker 2: The Falcons nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, to make the playoffs there minus minus two

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Speaker 3: I probably will pick them to win the Division. I

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Speaker 3: I guess I go over. This doesn't seem like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Baltimore Ravens are eleven and a half, and

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Speaker 3: I'd say I would go towards the under. That's a

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Speaker 2: It's a big number in a tough division.

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Speaker 3: Tough division. They're not gonna sweep the division. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: Probably both to the Steelers, since they haven't only beaten

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean your first play schedule. I mean that

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Speaker 2: To make the playoffs, or minus three hundred to miss

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Speaker 3: I don't think the ross was quite as good as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't either. Yeah, Buffalo, is it ten and

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Speaker 3: I'm going under. I don't think they're going to be

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Speaker 2: It's plus one hundred to the over, minus one twenty

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Speaker 2: plus one seventy five.

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Speaker 3: Might put a buck on that. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: things that gonna happen missed playoffs. Yeah, I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: they're not even. They may be the best team in

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Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers are four and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are dead split. It's minus one ten to

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Speaker 3: To maybe they could scrounge five wins.

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Speaker 2: To make the playoffs. They are plus one thousand.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not going there.

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Speaker 3: How many? I mean, this is really getting nerdy, but

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Speaker 3: how many games do you think they win in that

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Speaker 2: Maybe not even that. It's pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, clearly fourth. I guess I'll go over to such

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Speaker 2: It's eight and a half.

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Speaker 3: That's about right.

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Speaker 3: I would lean towards Under a big step forward.

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Speaker 2: To make the playoffs. They're minus one fifteen to miss

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Speaker 3: There. I mean, I still think they're third in their division, right,

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Speaker 2: To me, minus one twenty five to go over that.

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Speaker 2: It is plus one oh five to go under that,

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Speaker 3: I mean, everyone just assumes Burrow is gonna give you

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Speaker 2: They are minus two fifty to make the playoffs, plus

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Speaker 3: I might put a buck on that. In the AFC,

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Speaker 3: them missing.

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Speaker 2: Dallas is ten and a half. I'm sorry, I miss Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland is eight and a half.

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Speaker 3: So that's a good number for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, minus one oh five on the over and minus

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Speaker 2: Probably not. Yeah, yeah, uh, then you can get Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Well, it's crazy. About Cleveland especially. Get it's like Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: that's a titanic. It's done. You know. For the Brownies,

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Speaker 3: you might win games you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Dallas is ten and a half plus one hundred to

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Speaker 3: I lean towards under. I mean they consistently win games,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. They are minus two twenty five

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Speaker 3: And maybe they drop one against the Giants or Washington

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Speaker 2: Denver is five and a half under, plus minus one

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Speaker 3: I think they're horrible. I think they're right there with

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Speaker 2: Plus five hundred to make the playoffs, minus seven to

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Speaker 3: I think I'm going over there.

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Speaker 2: That's plus one hundred so even money on to go

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Speaker 3: First two picks are on corners. I like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm going over.

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Speaker 2: Packers are at nine and a half.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll lean towards over.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they're minus one thirty on the over, plus one

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Speaker 3: I'm going over on that. I think they're noticeably the

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Speaker 2: Minus one forty five towards the over, plus one twenty

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Speaker 3: The PLEXI last principle tells you they'll probably bounce backwards,

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis is eight and a half plus one twenty to

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Speaker 3: Perfect number to me, I really think they're like an

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville's eight and a half. They're minus one fifteen to

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Speaker 3: I'm under there. Seven or eight win team.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City eleven and a half.

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Speaker 3: Their division is so bad and they dominated.

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Speaker 2: Minus one twenty to the over, plus one hundred to

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go over. They can go six and zero

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Speaker 2: The Raiders are six and a half under minus one

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Speaker 3: They're better in a lot of spots, but not quarterback,

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Speaker 2: Could they win the four games against the other two teams,

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Speaker 3: One nice thing. I mean, if we're gonna say the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raiders might go four to zero in those games.

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Speaker 3: Defense is better, receivers are better.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers are eight and a half under under under

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get Harbaugh magic, but that's an overreaction.

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Speaker 2: Minus one forty to the over, plus one fifteen to

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Speaker 2: Eight and a half wins on the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Feel about that? Feel real good about that?

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Speaker 3: May almost have to win. I mean I can't see

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Speaker 2: As the FC is. The Rams are eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: I'll go over minus the over plus one five to

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Speaker 2: the under.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a McVeigh stafford bet.

447
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Speaker 2: Plus one ten to make the playoffs, minus one thirty

448
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Speaker 2: to miss.

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Speaker 3: They look like the second best team in that division.

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Speaker 3: Should handle Arizona and Seattle pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Dolphins are nine and a half.

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Speaker 3: Under under too fragile. The Vikings e starts hitting.

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Speaker 2: Vikings are six and a half.

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Speaker 3: Darnold could start the most of the year, which would

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Speaker 3: help them win games. Same with New England and Brissett.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just in terms of winning games. I'm still

457
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Speaker 3: gonna go under.

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Speaker 2: Patriots are five and a half under. That's a plus

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Speaker 2: number to the positive of that's so a lot of

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Speaker 2: people are going under that. Saints are seven and a half.

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Speaker 3: I think the bottoms due to fall out, but I've

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Speaker 3: been thinking that for years. I'm gonna still go under.

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Speaker 2: Uh, they're plus one ten to the under, the Giants

464
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Speaker 2: six and a half under, the minus one quarter that

465
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Speaker 2: the Jets nine and a half.

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Speaker 3: They could well exceed it, or all the old guys

467
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Speaker 3: could get hurt and they could be a nightmare. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna go over leap of faith.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles are ten and a half.

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Speaker 3: Over. They were so bad down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: Though they're plus one hundred to the over.

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Speaker 3: Over. I think they handle their division pretty well. Five

473
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Speaker 3: and one in the division.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers seven and a half.

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Speaker 3: I know it's way too low. I would put it

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Speaker 3: at nine.

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Speaker 2: It's minus one sixty five, though at seven and a

478
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Speaker 2: half over, it's plus one forty to go under. That

479
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Speaker 2: plus one seventy five to make the playoffs is not

480
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Speaker 2: a bad it's.

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Speaker 3: Not a bad one either. They do it pretty often.

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Speaker 3: I think that number is too low. I mean this

483
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Speaker 3: is an opinion. I mean they do it based on

484
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Speaker 3: what people bet. But I would set that line at nine.

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Speaker 2: Well, it tells me that people are betting the hell

486
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Speaker 2: out of it. At seven and a half on the overs.

487
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Speaker 3: I could see that going to any day easily.

488
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Speaker 2: That that's not even close to that's by far the

489
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Speaker 2: most the most juice really in minus one sixty five.

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Speaker 3: And it's by far the lowest wind total in the division.

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Speaker 3: To under Cleveland, Yeah, crazy, I don't.

492
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Speaker 2: See that crazy. Forty nine ers eleven and a half. Okay,

493
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Speaker 2: I'll go over and can get plus one oh five

494
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Speaker 2: for that.

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Speaker 3: Really it's a big number.

496
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Speaker 2: The big number. Seattle is seven and a half.

497
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Speaker 3: Going under. I think there's gonna be growing pains there.

498
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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay seven and a half.

499
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Speaker 3: Over. Bad division, they get the eight or nine. Uh.

500
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Speaker 2: The Titan Titans are six and a half under.

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Speaker 3: Bold prediction. Mason Rudolph plays meaningful snaps this year.

502
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Speaker 2: Oh I think you will too.

503
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

504
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Speaker 2: And then the Washington Commanders are six and.

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Speaker 3: A half under. But progress. Some of these be unders,

506
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Speaker 3: but successful season like Arizona and Washington.

507
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Speaker 2: Try selling that to your owner.

508
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Speaker 3: At least there's promise. Some of these young guys, they

509
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 3: draft a thousand dudes in half of them look like kids,

510
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, but they just don't win games. Some

511
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Speaker 3: interesting ones there though, Yeah, there are there's a couple

512
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Speaker 3: I would consider.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Let's get to another break. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive

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Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio. That was the MGM over

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Speaker 2: unders off of their website. Matt and I will be

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Speaker 2: back to finish up the show right after this.

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Speaker 1: Least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt. We've had basically a week here.

523
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Speaker 2: We're to digest everything that the Steelers did last week,

524
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: said NFL Draft. Have you had any more thought about

525
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: this as we've gotten taken even a bigger step backwards.

526
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Speaker 3: I'm really fond of it. I mean I'm really having

527
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Speaker 3: a hard time finding holes in the plan. I think

528
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Speaker 3: that they had a very distinct plan, and it went

529
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Speaker 3: as well as you could probably expect. Obviously, there's some

530
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Speaker 3: trends in that line o Lino line. I also think

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Speaker 3: athleticism was high on the list in terms of what

532
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Speaker 3: you're going to go after as well as experience. I mean,

533
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of snaps here from specially McCormick and

534
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Speaker 3: higher picks. You know, I mean that those guys have

535
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: played a lot of football, which implies to me they're

536
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Speaker 3: planning on having this rookie class contribute quickly. I mean,

537
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Speaker 3: who knows how they'll handle it in terms of when

538
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Speaker 3: guys become starters. Last year it took a little while,

539
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 3: but that class was really good. I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be honest, I'm I'm super excited for

541
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Speaker 3: like rookie mini camps and things like that. I mean,

542
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Speaker 3: just to see these guys in person and go from there.

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, it used to be you could count

544
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Speaker 2: on the Steelers to take young prospects. Yeah yeah, yeah,

545
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: and they did it pretty consistently that you got to

546
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Speaker 2: the point where, okay, this isn't an accident. They're taking

547
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Speaker 2: these guys that are twenty or twenty one.

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Speaker 3: To get two contracts out of Yeah, yeah, I don't

549
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: look they're.

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Speaker 2: Looking at that that that that I think maybe the

551
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Speaker 2: league has changed a little bit.

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Speaker 3: This draft class certainly was old. Well.

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Speaker 2: I think I think as well that you're seeing teams

554
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Speaker 2: like the second contract offers in many cases here are

555
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: now starting to be instead of four or five year deals,

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Speaker 2: there's three two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean you've seen the Steelers sign a

558
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Speaker 3: lot of the last two off seasons, They've signed a

559
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Speaker 3: lot of two year deals that are really one year

560
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Speaker 3: deals from players outside the organization. Yeah, you can always

561
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Speaker 3: get them, you know, like they have. They also have

562
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: a lot of cap space to coming up.

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Speaker 2: It just seems to me that that I think, at

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Speaker 2: least for the Steelers, it seems like they're looking at

565
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: this going if we get it used to be if

566
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Speaker 2: we get you know, we'd like to get eight years

567
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Speaker 2: out of this guy.

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Speaker 3: That might be six, that's what you're saying. Yeah, I

569
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: think that's a better way looking at it too. Okay,

570
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Speaker 3: he's a year older than we would have liked, but

571
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Speaker 3: he's a year better.

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Speaker 2: Than it was, a more finished product. We don't need

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Speaker 2: to worry about projecting what he's going to be we

574
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: have a pretty good idea.

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Speaker 3: I mean, chances are these guys that get called on

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Speaker 3: some point through the course of the year. I can't

577
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Speaker 3: have a third round pick sitting there inactive week after

578
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: week because he doesn't he's not ready. That's fine, but

579
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Speaker 3: those days are.

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Speaker 2: But that also used to be a part of it

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Speaker 2: because if you remember, pre Ryan shay'z eer, there weren't

582
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Speaker 2: a lot of rookies that came in and started right

583
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Speaker 2: out of the game.

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Speaker 3: And there wasn't much turnover on the roster though. I mean,

585
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: I always think about the outside linebackers, the edge guys.

586
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: I mean, that was a tough nut to crack to

587
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Speaker 3: get on the field for years and years and years.

588
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: And you know, you draft a guy high. Why even

589
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: bother drafting a guy high, he's gonna wait, you know,

590
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: I mean, even the Watts and Woodley's and those dudes.

591
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you're gonna be pretty darn good to

592
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 3: crack that lineup. Oh, I think teams are thinner across

593
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: the board, you know, And I think you're right that

594
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Speaker 3: if I get eight years out of a player, that's

595
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: pretty rare nowadays on the same team, you know, five six, Okay,

596
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: that's a really successful pick. I think you're right. Yeah,

597
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 3: I in this class exemplifies that. Now I would sope

598
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: the lineman and I'm gonna put Roder Jones in that mix.

599
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: Get you eight to ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If you can do that, you're you know, you

601
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: don't have to really worry about your line. Yeah, for

602
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: three or four drafts.

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Speaker 3: If I can have a center and two tackles for

604
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Speaker 3: seven to ten years, I'll find guards, right And yeah,

605
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Speaker 3: not that these guards are a problem, but I mean

606
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: they're probably not gonna be here in three years. But

607
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: I can get a center and two tackles for a

608
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Speaker 3: long time. Like I meant to bring this up because

609
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: it was a long time ago, but you remember when

610
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Speaker 3: the Jets drafted the brickish off Ferguson and Nick Mangled

611
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Speaker 3: in the first round. It changed the whole fortune of

612
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Speaker 3: that team all of a sudden. They didn't end up

613
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Speaker 3: with good quarterbacks, so it's still Sanchez and all those dudes,

614
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: but they played defense and it was Rex Ryan and

615
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: that was a pivotal point in Jets' history. They didnt

616
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Speaker 3: end up winning Super Bowls because of it, but they

617
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: became They competed with the Patriots from that point on,

618
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Speaker 3: you know, when the Patriots were the Patriots. You know,

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Speaker 3: so you go center tackle and a tackle the year before.

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Speaker 3: That's a foundation that's hard to argue with. And maybe

621
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Speaker 3: they never get that second receiver this year, but they

622
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Speaker 3: will next year, right, Yeah, if they want, they could

623
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Speaker 3: grab te Higgins in free agency next year, you know

624
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Speaker 3: what I mean. And they may just they don't need

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Speaker 3: the line.

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Speaker 2: They may run the ball four hundred times this year.

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Speaker 3: I'm not flushing this season by any means, but you

628
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Speaker 3: think of the situation they're going to be in next offseason.

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Speaker 3: They have tons of cap space, they don't have a

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Speaker 3: crazy amount of free agents. They're going to have an

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Speaker 3: offensive line, you know, like, yeah, that's cheap, cheap, right,

632
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Speaker 3: They're going to have an offensive line. I mean, maybe

633
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Speaker 3: one of those guys don't work out, but McCormick does,

634
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Speaker 3: or you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: At that point, let's say, for example, they would let

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Speaker 2: James Daniels leave in free agency. It's possible Mace McCormick

637
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Speaker 2: accepts in. The only guy you're paying on your front,

638
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Speaker 2: on your offensive line at that point on a second

639
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: contract is Sam Wallis.

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Speaker 3: You're one of the cheapest and youngest and a highly

641
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Speaker 3: experienced line a year from Aliven. I mean if no

642
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: matter what, so it's a good place to start.

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Speaker 2: The only problem is they all start becoming free agents

644
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Speaker 2: at the same time.

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Speaker 3: At some point. Yeah, there's no doubt you got a

646
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Speaker 3: lot of cap space too, I mean in some future picks.

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Speaker 3: And I don't I really like where his team's at

648
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Speaker 3: right now. I mean, do they have my homes or Allen? No,

649
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: but I'm psyched what the quarterback situation looks like. It's

650
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Speaker 3: going to be fun. It's gonna be a little more

651
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: of a roller coaster, but it's gonna be fun. I

652
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: don't know. I think a new coordinator goes a long

653
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: way too.

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Speaker 2: I think they're I think they're better on defense overall. Yeah,

655
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Speaker 2: and I think there should be better on the offense.

656
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: I think they should be a better football team.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I hope now we're not saying Minka, Watt

658
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: and Cam look old or look like they're going backwards.

659
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: Someday that's going to happen, you know, but a roll

660
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Speaker 3: of dice whre they're at, we might be talking about.

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Speaker 3: Porter is one of the best corners in the league,

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Speaker 3: and while Benton is a top fifteen defensive tax.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I can't believe what a difference Patrick Queen.

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Speaker 3: Made, Yeah, right right right, middle of the field stuff.

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Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson, Wow, he was defensive Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Those guys are making every play right, Absolutely could be

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Speaker 3: the case.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll see where it goes. But I do

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Speaker 2: like some of the pieces that they put together. The Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think the draft is one that interesting. I just

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Speaker 2: think things have shifted a little bit. Whereas you know,

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Speaker 2: when we talked about Jackson powers Johnson earlier, well he

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Speaker 2: just turned twenty one ten years ago. That would have

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Speaker 2: been something, Oh that's a Steeler. He's a Steeler. Maybe

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Speaker 2: not so much now.

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Speaker 3: No, I think that's a good point. I think there

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Speaker 3: is a little more of a win now mentality. I

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Speaker 3: mean that comes from the ownership, of course, say it

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Speaker 3: over and over. Yeah, if you can get four good years,

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Speaker 3: I have a third round pick. I mean looking at

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Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson for example, that's a great pick. Yeah, if

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Speaker 3: he starts, if he plays one thousand snaps year two three, four,

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Speaker 3: play seven hundred this year, take it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think I think sometimes people get caught up in

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Speaker 2: some stuff like, oh, the Steelers don't have anybody from

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Speaker 2: their twenty fifteen draft class. You're not longer than look

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Speaker 2: around the league, right.

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Speaker 3: We can pull up a twenty fifteen draft who's still contributing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or the sixteen or seventy whatever draft it may be.

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Speaker 2: If you get the you got a good rookie contract

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Speaker 2: out of that player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it's a pretty strong pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I like where they're at. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a fun year and big wide receiver trade or not,

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Speaker 3: this team's not done. There can still find some other stuff.

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Speaker 3: They'll add three or four more players that will make

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Speaker 3: this team in some way, shape or form. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think there'll be another another line, another defensive back,

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Speaker 3: another corner for sure will be added. Some kind of

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Speaker 3: edge guy is going to get added. Some bargain that

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Speaker 3: becomes available that we haven't thought of is going to

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Speaker 3: show up, you know. Yeah. Kawant Alexander was signed in

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Speaker 3: junior July or.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, August later, la later August. Yeah, we were a

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Speaker 2: training camp.

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Speaker 3: We were well in the camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So those things can still happen. But that's going

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Speaker 2: to do it for our show today. So for my

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Speaker 2: partner Matt Williamson for Justin Miller here on site keeping

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Speaker 2: us on the air. I am Dale, Lolly. We thank

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