Speaker 1: Hell I Suck Good Dating with the Angel and I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio Podcast. Hello everyone, thank you for joining me
Speaker 1: and my friends here on this week's episode of Help
Speaker 1: I Suck at Dating. Uh, same as last week, got
Speaker 1: Vanessa and Jared in studio. Here he very special episode.
Speaker 1: I say that every time, but this time I really
Speaker 1: really mean this one's a really special episode. Of course
Speaker 1: Market Eastern. Here, we're gonna be joined in studio by
Speaker 1: two of my very close friends. We'll get to that
Speaker 1: a little bit later, but very first, we have an
Speaker 1: elite matchmaker. We've had some matchmakers on before, but never
Speaker 1: a proclaimed elite matchmaker, which is exciting. Uh. She goes
Speaker 1: by the name Timmy Pickle and I think she's on
Speaker 1: the phone right now, Timmy, are you there all right?
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for calling and so so for
Speaker 1: the listeners out there. Tammy is the VP from Elite
Speaker 1: Connections and Tammy, do you mind just telling us a
Speaker 1: little bit more about you. I I could give the rundown,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure that you can say it a little
Speaker 1: bit better than than we can. Yeah. So we have
Speaker 1: a massmaking agency my mom started almost twenty five years ago.
Speaker 1: And meet everyone, screen everyone whore They are who they
Speaker 1: say they are. Run background searches on all of our
Speaker 1: clients and we just try to make the best matches
Speaker 1: for them. We don't do any kind of blind dating,
Speaker 1: so our clients are always seeing each other's information of
Speaker 1: proving to meet each other, and it's real private and
Speaker 1: we just send select members to each other. We don't
Speaker 1: have a database where anyone would be so privacy or concerned.
Speaker 1: They're coming to us, you know, they're looking for higher
Speaker 1: caliber professionals and serious about finding the right person settling
Speaker 1: down that type of person that's coming to us. Well,
Speaker 1: so tell us about that. And just so you know
Speaker 1: you're joined here with me, Jared and Vanessa. Hi, Dammy, Hi,
Speaker 1: Hi everybody. Thanks for having me. Yeah, of course, of course.
Speaker 1: So so tell us a little bit more about what
Speaker 1: makes I guess the the eliteness of the matchmaking that
Speaker 1: you're working with. So, you know, we we do work
Speaker 1: for more of a professional somebody that wants to find
Speaker 1: the right person. They want us to do all that
Speaker 1: screening for them, so they don't want to kind of
Speaker 1: go the online route, or maybe they did and it
Speaker 1: didn't work for them, and they just want to meet
Speaker 1: a better quality individual. That we've met in screen and
Speaker 1: we know who they are and they're not being deceitful
Speaker 1: or lying about what they're looking for or who they are. Um.
Speaker 1: You know so many online sites and you can be
Speaker 1: anyone you want to be. You could be married, you
Speaker 1: could be lying about what you do or where you
Speaker 1: live or anything about yourself. So that you know there
Speaker 1: are people that are coming to us, they do tend
Speaker 1: to be more serious. They are investing in a matchmaker
Speaker 1: and they really want us to do the vetting and
Speaker 1: screening for them. So there's no like requirement for an
Speaker 1: income bracket or something like that that would require them
Speaker 1: to meet a certain threshold in order to be working
Speaker 1: with you. I guess that's not necessarily UM, but you
Speaker 1: know they are investing in a company with us. They
Speaker 1: are investing a certain amount of money, and you know
Speaker 1: we don't work for free, so you know they are
Speaker 1: investing in us searching and recruiting and finding them appropriate matches.
Speaker 1: So then you know fees depending on length of time,
Speaker 1: type of membership, where were searching, they would start at
Speaker 1: nine thousand and go up from there. So it's not
Speaker 1: everyone that wants to invest in a company like ours.
Speaker 1: It's somebody that is making you know, typically you know
Speaker 1: six figures and up. Um. But we we you know,
Speaker 1: work for all different types of people. Can I ask
Speaker 1: you what the split of men and women using you
Speaker 1: as a services is it is? Do you typically see
Speaker 1: more men kind of needing your service more than the women? Uh?
Speaker 1: Pretty much even split fifty fifty. Um. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: we have tens of thousands of clients in our database
Speaker 1: and it's pretty split down the middle. So do you
Speaker 1: have numbers on your success rate like how many people
Speaker 1: will join it and then how many people end up
Speaker 1: in a relationship because of this company? Yeah, so we
Speaker 1: came up with eight out of ten which find someone
Speaker 1: that are in a committed relations six months or longer.
Speaker 1: It's really well, Tammy, have a question for you. I
Speaker 1: actually went online and I checked out the questionnaire, which
Speaker 1: I loved. It was simple or straight to the point.
Speaker 1: I want to know what do you what do you
Speaker 1: feel makes two people compatible? Um? You know, interest, hobbies, UM.
Speaker 1: Some things are very important to someone. So if let's say,
Speaker 1: religion is very important, or they were wanting to have
Speaker 1: children is very important. Um. Or somebody you know grew
Speaker 1: up and they're very interested in the golf a lot,
Speaker 1: or they're interested in certain hobbies or sports. You know,
Speaker 1: somebody that really into something. I think it's good for
Speaker 1: the other person to also be interested in at least
Speaker 1: to have something a few things in common, especially if
Speaker 1: something is kind of deal breaker, like a religious preference.
Speaker 1: You know, it's very important with their family and they
Speaker 1: want somebody the same. Um, somebody really wants to have
Speaker 1: kids that you know, those are very deal breaker situations
Speaker 1: that are going to be important. But I think something
Speaker 1: to have something in common with someone that UM like sporty, active,
Speaker 1: they like going out, they like being outdoorsy and versus
Speaker 1: UM kind of homebody, you know, they don't like going out.
Speaker 1: You know, something has to be a good fit for
Speaker 1: a good connection. When when someone new comes to you
Speaker 1: and they said that they're looking for a connection for
Speaker 1: a relationship, what are the first three things that they
Speaker 1: typically say that they're looking for in a significant other UM,
Speaker 1: guy or girl. Mmm, you know what? What somebody may
Speaker 1: look like a type that they have in their head
Speaker 1: UM aids parameter. I usually hear you know I want
Speaker 1: this to this. UM. Location is usually big, especially in
Speaker 1: l A. People don't want to date too far. Topic
Speaker 1: is too hard, it's too it's hard enough to you know,
Speaker 1: be able to see the person within, you know, twenty
Speaker 1: minutes versus hours of getting together. Um, so those are
Speaker 1: probably big things that I would hear. So when you
Speaker 1: first meet somebody, do you when you hear these people's preferences,
Speaker 1: do you how like much do you take that into account?
Speaker 1: Because obviously they're going to you for help because they're single,
Speaker 1: So how much do you take that into account versus Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what I think is best for you, right, So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, they are coming to us and they need
Speaker 1: to take our expertise. So if I have somebody in
Speaker 1: mind that might be a bit out of their age
Speaker 1: parameter or their location parameter, I will let them know
Speaker 1: I think this person is great. I've met them personally.
Speaker 1: I think that you would be good fit for this
Speaker 1: reason and this reason, and you should be open minded
Speaker 1: meet them. See what happens. So they are hiring us,
Speaker 1: and you know I would want them to take, um,
Speaker 1: somebody that we had in mind for them and we
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be a good match. I
Speaker 1: would want them to meet them, but we also don't
Speaker 1: want to force matches on anyone. We want both people
Speaker 1: to be excited, and that's why we're always going to
Speaker 1: show pictures and profiles, and we want both people to
Speaker 1: say yes, and they're interested and they're attracted and all
Speaker 1: of those things. And do you imagine one person with
Speaker 1: multiple people or is it one on one? Yeah? Just
Speaker 1: one on one. UM, see how it goes to that
Speaker 1: person and then we could work up something else after that.
Speaker 1: But we really do like our clients to focus on
Speaker 1: that one person versus meeting to three people at once.
Speaker 1: You know, how can you really invest your time in
Speaker 1: getting to know that person if it's split between multiple people.
Speaker 1: And that's a good point too. I think the big
Speaker 1: thing with modern dating apps is no one really holds
Speaker 1: you accountable to date just one person. You kind of
Speaker 1: have free range to date however many people you want.
Speaker 1: But if you work with a matchmaker such as yourself,
Speaker 1: you're only going to be introducing one person to to
Speaker 1: another person at a time, and not you know multiple people,
Speaker 1: which I think helps you focus on the relationship at hands.
Speaker 1: I agree, right, I mean, how can you get to
Speaker 1: know someone and invest a hund percent of your time
Speaker 1: if you're if you're seeing what else is out there
Speaker 1: and you're dating around and you're you know, meeting multiple people.
Speaker 1: So I mean somebody that's pretty serious, I would say
Speaker 1: I would want to just focus on that one person
Speaker 1: and see what happens. But, um, app dating and so
Speaker 1: tricky because there's always somebody around the corner and you're
Speaker 1: always talking with someone getting attention from somebody. So it's
Speaker 1: a turkey world out there with all the app dating
Speaker 1: and online dating. So there's a lot of sparkly things
Speaker 1: out there. Um, So do you have any um I
Speaker 1: just had a quod question about is there a one
Speaker 1: date minimum? Is there three date minimum? Like, say you
Speaker 1: match somebody with somebody, is there like, oh you have
Speaker 1: you have to hang out with them at least two
Speaker 1: times before you move on to another person. I mean,
Speaker 1: we always suggest if somebody is interested in a second
Speaker 1: date and you're both you know, interested, and maybe one
Speaker 1: was like I don't know, and then we'll come back
Speaker 1: and we always get feedback from both people and we
Speaker 1: can let them know, oh, she really liked you, she'd
Speaker 1: love to see you again. So it kind of helps them,
Speaker 1: um make a decision if they want to go forward
Speaker 1: with it, because sometimes they may be like, well, she's
Speaker 1: just being polite. I don't know if she's interested, and maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, the sparks weren't flying, but we would if
Speaker 1: if at least one person is interested, we would let
Speaker 1: the other know. We think that you should focus on
Speaker 1: getting to know that person, because how well can you
Speaker 1: get to know someone after an hour dinner date. So
Speaker 1: if somebody was interested, we say, give it another go.
Speaker 1: But you know, there are those times where like, no,
Speaker 1: I was not attracted. I We've had nothing in common.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that person against and we
Speaker 1: wouldn't force We wouldn't force anything. Gotcha. I have a
Speaker 1: question for you, Tammy, So what advice do you have
Speaker 1: for a listener of this podcast that maybe isn't able
Speaker 1: to afford a professional matchmakers such as yourself, that still
Speaker 1: wants obviously put themselves out there. Yeah, I would say,
Speaker 1: you know, do things out of the norm. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're just kind of focused on work and you
Speaker 1: do the gym, then you you know, kind of go home.
Speaker 1: I would just say, try to find more things to
Speaker 1: go to to meet other people. Um, go to charity events,
Speaker 1: go to functions, go to sporting events, concerts, to you know,
Speaker 1: try to do get together with with friends and do
Speaker 1: different things where you're kind of getting out and into
Speaker 1: the community and meeting people different ways. And you know,
Speaker 1: also just kind of always going out you're very very best.
Speaker 1: I mean, so many people they're they're you know, going
Speaker 1: out and yoga clothes, with their hair in u fun
Speaker 1: and and no makeup. You know, just always look your
Speaker 1: very very best because you never know when you could
Speaker 1: run into that person and the guys are pointing at
Speaker 1: me beautiful. No, I get it, you know. I like
Speaker 1: to be comfortable as well. But you feel good when
Speaker 1: you look good and you've put yourself together and you've
Speaker 1: done your hair and makeup, and especially if you're single
Speaker 1: and you're out there, don't complain about never finding anybody,
Speaker 1: because it could be you know, anywhere. It could be
Speaker 1: at the grocery store. So just you know, always try
Speaker 1: to look your very best and you never know. I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, I'm the opposite. I always basically look my
Speaker 1: worst and it's exhausting. I did have a question about
Speaker 1: the ages um when it comes to age. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like age is just a number and it you know,
Speaker 1: if there's an age gap, should women be dating older men?
Speaker 1: Should women be now dating younger men? What what's your
Speaker 1: take on that? Um? You know, I I love for
Speaker 1: people to be open minded with age, because you know,
Speaker 1: somebody has this eighth in the head. I don't want
Speaker 1: to date. Let's let's say a forty year old woman comes.
Speaker 1: I don't want to date over fifty. They have this
Speaker 1: over fifties like tool old in their head. But so
Speaker 1: many people take such good care themselves nowadays, and they're
Speaker 1: so thin and active, and they they're healthy, and they
Speaker 1: eat well and they work out and so and and
Speaker 1: people age differently, So one fifth year old versus another,
Speaker 1: you might be attracted to one and not the other.
Speaker 1: So being open minded is great, um, But also you
Speaker 1: know it is it is tricky because it's you know, um,
Speaker 1: you have this number in your head and you know,
Speaker 1: to some most women give us like an eight to
Speaker 1: ten year age wind window their age and older. Not
Speaker 1: many women want to date younger than them. Um. And
Speaker 1: the people that come to us is the same kind
Speaker 1: of with men. They typically want to date you know,
Speaker 1: their age and eight or so years younger, depending and
Speaker 1: then um, you know, not many men want to date
Speaker 1: that much older, maybe a couple of years but for
Speaker 1: the most part, they're not wanting to date you know,
Speaker 1: much older than them. But that's kind of what I see.
Speaker 1: I agree with that, that makes a lot of sense. Well, Tammy,
Speaker 1: do you have do you have like a website or
Speaker 1: Instagram maybe that we can plug real quick for the
Speaker 1: listeners if they want to reach out to you and
Speaker 1: maybe consult your services. Yeah, Lee connections um website is
Speaker 1: lead connections dot com um and if you have any information,
Speaker 1: you know, give us a call and or check us
Speaker 1: out on our website. Instagram is also lead Connections and
Speaker 1: the number would be eight nine two three zero zero.
Speaker 1: There you go. If you're listening to this podcast and
Speaker 1: you're serious about getting matched up, check out Tammy. Check
Speaker 1: it out, Tammy. I said one more question before you go, why,
Speaker 1: just out of curiosity when you guys started the business,
Speaker 1: why did you go after people that are of a
Speaker 1: higher bracket income? Just it's it's very interesting dynamic. It's
Speaker 1: not necessarily um that we only work for higher bracket income,
Speaker 1: but because we do charge for our services, and when
Speaker 1: we started twenty five years ago, our fees were much lower.
Speaker 1: But we have been around a very long time and
Speaker 1: we have a very large database in our really large
Speaker 1: matchmaking team, and we work hard for all our clients.
Speaker 1: So we do charge, um, you know, a bit for
Speaker 1: our services. But we are working for somebody for six
Speaker 1: months or longer, of course, Yeah, it's definite an investment.
Speaker 1: It is an investment. But you know, for somebody that's
Speaker 1: really serious and committed to finding the right person and
Speaker 1: they don't want to stiff through a million different profiles online.
Speaker 1: They don't have the time or they would never go
Speaker 1: that route. They don't want to put themselves out there
Speaker 1: like that. It just so happens that somebody that can
Speaker 1: afford nine thousand or up is typically making you know,
Speaker 1: six figures or more. I just didn't know if there's
Speaker 1: any like staff behind. Maybe there's more singles within that
Speaker 1: demographic than others. No, not necessarily. I mean we worked
Speaker 1: for teachers, we work for you know, celebrities and and billionaires,
Speaker 1: so I mean we we work for all different types
Speaker 1: of people. Um, but but more so somebody that's really
Speaker 1: invested and maybe kind of tried the online route and
Speaker 1: didn't work for them, and they and they really are
Speaker 1: serious about finding somebody and they don't want to waste
Speaker 1: their time. So what would you say to the people
Speaker 1: that would say that, uh, investing this much in finding
Speaker 1: your soul mate is probably not worth the money that
Speaker 1: they would pay in Wait, for example, like if somebody
Speaker 1: was like, I just it's just too much money for
Speaker 1: me to invest in trying to find a soul mate.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not for everyone. Not everyone wants to
Speaker 1: invest in this type of company, and that's perfectly fine.
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe if they wanted to try the
Speaker 1: online route UM, but you know, yes, it's not for everyone.
Speaker 1: But we're pretty comfortable with other companies that have been
Speaker 1: around as long as we have and and we do
Speaker 1: work very hard for our clients. But yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: for everyone. No. I love how personalized it is. I
Speaker 1: really that's my favorite part of this entire is that
Speaker 1: you meet with them, talked to them, and really kind
Speaker 1: of learn. And even on your website you say that
Speaker 1: you become friends with everybody that invested in this company,
Speaker 1: which I really enjoy. And it definitely is not only investment,
Speaker 1: but a friendship between UM the company and the individual.
Speaker 1: And that's why it's nice to know everyone and then
Speaker 1: try to uh put two people together that we think
Speaker 1: would be a good fit. Of course, you're not going
Speaker 1: to know until you sit down and there's a connection
Speaker 1: and go from there. But it is it is nice
Speaker 1: to feel like we have a large network of friends
Speaker 1: and we just start trying to map our friends together.
Speaker 1: But we're not going to get upset if you don't
Speaker 1: like our friend, We'll just move on. Perfect, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: Tammy pickle ladies and a gentleman making the world a
Speaker 1: better place, one relationship at a time. Be sure to
Speaker 1: check her out at www dot Elite connections dot com
Speaker 1: on the websites, and then Tammy your email I think
Speaker 1: is Tammy at Elite Connections dot com. Yeah, that's right. Perfect. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling it and joining us
Speaker 1: and tell us a little bit more about what you
Speaker 1: do at Elite Connections. We really appreciate it. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Tammy. Have a good day. Yeah, nine's a lot.
Speaker 1: I can't get pass that number. I literally took off
Speaker 1: my your phones like what That's why I had to ask.
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, this is not meant to be
Speaker 1: for the everyday person, Like nobody's gonna I mean, not
Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna invest nine thousand dollars
Speaker 1: or than six months to try to find their soul mate.
Speaker 1: It seems also very artificial. Yeah, it's very business like,
Speaker 1: which is okay, like she's running a business and she's
Speaker 1: trying to find your soul mate. But having said that,
Speaker 1: I can get past the fact that it does feel
Speaker 1: very business like on a very emotional decision. Does it
Speaker 1: feel business like? Because it's like, well, you have to
Speaker 1: invest and then we're gonna sit down and negotiate about
Speaker 1: what you like and when you don't like, and then
Speaker 1: when you go like, we're gonna match you up with
Speaker 1: one person at a time, and if you don't like
Speaker 1: that person, then we can move on. It's very just
Speaker 1: like um strategic. I don't I think it's like maybe
Speaker 1: if like, if you fit into that income bracket, then
Speaker 1: that's the route that you would take. And there's other
Speaker 1: different matchmaking websites that you can go on that are
Speaker 1: a lot less. They're either free or cheaper, right. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's more. I don't think I didn't see
Speaker 1: it as a business. I'm not saying that as a
Speaker 1: bad thing. I think sometimes that's needed because, like like
Speaker 1: she said, when you go on in a dating app,
Speaker 1: like there is a lot of options right, there's not
Speaker 1: You're not focused, right, You're just kind of like swiping
Speaker 1: through it. It's more casual than anything else where. This
Speaker 1: is very uh focused and uh you know, on the
Speaker 1: task at hand. I think for her demographic that she's
Speaker 1: working with matching as well, it probably fits in well
Speaker 1: because the people that she's working with are going to
Speaker 1: be those more business minded, focus on great people and
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, I spend eighty hours a week
Speaker 1: on my job. I would like to have a very
Speaker 1: similar strategic approach to my relations right. And if you're
Speaker 1: investing nine thousand dollars, you know that they want to
Speaker 1: find a serious, committed relationship. So that's something that I
Speaker 1: I'm thirty years old now and like I said last podcast,
Speaker 1: yes I'm I'm dating someone. Yeah, who I am feeling good?
Speaker 1: Where are my jelly bean? I wanted to say. When
Speaker 1: I turned thirty, I had Nick and I had just
Speaker 1: broken up and I turned thirty and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I want kids, I want a family,
Speaker 1: I want all that stuff. And then you start thinking
Speaker 1: and calculating, Okay, it's gonna take me x amount of
Speaker 1: time to find someone, and when I do find someone,
Speaker 1: it'll take me, You're to really get to know them,
Speaker 1: and then I want to have kids, you know, and
Speaker 1: then like, oh my god, by the time I want
Speaker 1: to have a family, I'll probably be like thirty five,
Speaker 1: thirty six. And then I started thinking, well, I've never
Speaker 1: done any dating apps. Um, the only two apps I
Speaker 1: have our Instagram and Facebook, which people do end up
Speaker 1: meeting each other on those apps. But then I started thinking, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: what if I should be open to the idea of
Speaker 1: going on the dating app, dating websites, matchmaking websites. So
Speaker 1: if I were in the position where I was single
Speaker 1: and I wanted to find someone and find a real
Speaker 1: committed relationship, nine nine thousand dollars, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you'll take it more seriously. Yeah, should
Speaker 1: definitely take it more seriously. Sorry, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: can I ask you as I don't think thirty years
Speaker 1: old is old by any starch, But do you kind
Speaker 1: of notice yourself being willing to compromise on certain areas
Speaker 1: of a relationship because you know that you want to
Speaker 1: have a family and kids and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: so you're willing to give way a little bit more
Speaker 1: on certain things. That maybe you didn't before. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's certain things that I know. I'm not
Speaker 1: ever willing to give up motherhood of um so, I
Speaker 1: I ink um because I'm the type of person that
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to date multiple people at the same time.
Speaker 1: I just like, if I like you, that means I
Speaker 1: want I can see a potential future with you, and
Speaker 1: I want to date you seriously. So I'm not like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's start off as friends and friends could end up
Speaker 1: because like that's like the line that guys use nowadays.
Speaker 1: Let's start off as friends and then maybe we could,
Speaker 1: you know, like it can develop into something deeper, like no,
Speaker 1: don't friend zone me first, Like yeah, guys worst So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean not agreeing to that. I'm saying I'm agreeing
Speaker 1: to compromising on certain things. But I think the older
Speaker 1: you get, the more you know yourself, and the more
Speaker 1: you know what you're um okay to walk away from
Speaker 1: and what you need to prioritize. I think that makes
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Speaker 1: I want to move on to this next segment real quick.
Speaker 1: Two of my very close friends are getting married on Saturday.
Speaker 1: And instead of having their wedding as typically we see
Speaker 1: where you go up on the altar, you share your
Speaker 1: vows and and and commit to each other for the
Speaker 1: rest of your lives, which is a beautiful ceremony and
Speaker 1: all that. What they're doing is they're taking the most
Speaker 1: important day of their lives and making about other people.
Speaker 1: It's called the greatest wedding ever donated. And what they're
Speaker 1: going to be doing is trying to raise half a
Speaker 1: million dollars for five separate charities. Yeah, it's in incredible, incredible,
Speaker 1: So they're gonna come in studio right now. Okay, So
Speaker 1: here we are joined in studio by Caleb and the
Speaker 1: soon to be Tiffany Remington' that's the first time I
Speaker 1: heard that it sounds good. It doesn't, it really does. Um,
Speaker 1: So tell the listeners. I gave them a very brief
Speaker 1: rundown on kind of what you guys are doing on
Speaker 1: Saturday for your wedding. But tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: more about, um, maybe your story how you met. You
Speaker 1: guys have been doing a press circuit, so I'm sure
Speaker 1: you're familiar with just kind of the rundown of how
Speaker 1: it all goes. So, yeah, yeah, we have the our version,
Speaker 1: we have the thirty second version, and we have we'll
Speaker 1: take the ten minutes. Yeah. So Tiffany and I met
Speaker 1: three years ago through a mutual friend Sophie. Well, wait,
Speaker 1: I want to hear more of that story, because I
Speaker 1: actually brought up on it. I did. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Well, so a mutual friend I went to
Speaker 1: college with her name's Sophie, and she went to high
Speaker 1: school with Caleb, and she um had moved out to
Speaker 1: California and then posted a picture on Instagram and then
Speaker 1: I was just flipping through. The funny thing is because
Speaker 1: you were talking. I was just saying beat off of Instagram,
Speaker 1: then dancing in the back. I'm like that, Um, so
Speaker 1: I was flipping through the people that liked the picture,
Speaker 1: and he was only guy. And at that point I
Speaker 1: and dating in l a for about a year and
Speaker 1: a half, and I'm like, you know, and then she
Speaker 1: told me a little bit about him. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's from where we grew up. And I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, you need to introduce me to him,
Speaker 1: and she never did, And then I decided to just
Speaker 1: follow him on Instagram and then he followed me back.
Speaker 1: That followed couldn't get you far. And this goes back
Speaker 1: to our conversation with Erica, which we can dive in
Speaker 1: on a little bit later, but continue. Sorry, no, you're good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we liked each all these pictures for the
Speaker 1: next six months and I didn't say a word one another.
Speaker 1: And then on my birthday. On my birthday, he commented
Speaker 1: amazing on with well, let's talk about why he said that.
Speaker 1: Why it's amazing. So Tiffany has this tradition on her birthday, Um,
Speaker 1: she adds a zero to her age and then makes
Speaker 1: that many lunches for the homeless people in her community. So,
Speaker 1: guys are amazing. I was like, yeah, that was like,
Speaker 1: what kind of selfless person is not going to Vegas
Speaker 1: with her friends and getting drunk and party in but
Speaker 1: instead spending her own money and taking her own time
Speaker 1: to basically serve those in her community. I said, amazing,
Speaker 1: and wife the material for sure. Well, I totally noticed that.
Speaker 1: So then I took my girlfriend's Sophie's phone and texted
Speaker 1: him as her and I said, Hey, want to go
Speaker 1: to a daughter's game? And he said yes, and then
Speaker 1: he canceled. The girl before the day before I canceled,
Speaker 1: I had to work function come up. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, but next weekend, I'm going out to Lake
Speaker 1: Havasu with a couple of friends. We're gonna fly out there.
Speaker 1: If you any of your friends want to come a
Speaker 1: k A tiffany weekend. Um, you guys are welcome. So
Speaker 1: we met out in Lake Havasu and you can tell
Speaker 1: your the rain the right Oh. We met and we
Speaker 1: hugged and then there was a rain cloud above us
Speaker 1: literally when we hugged and started writing, and there was
Speaker 1: no good It's out of the notebook, that's what. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, now, this is my husband. I just the
Speaker 1: notebook really laid it out for us. So yeah, the
Speaker 1: rest was pretty much history on that. Yeah, so we
Speaker 1: dated for a year and a half and we got
Speaker 1: engaged out in Kawaie. Um. She was working like crazy hours,
Speaker 1: she was traveling all over the country helping this nonprofit,
Speaker 1: the Maleola Foundation, and so I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to propose, and I didn't know
Speaker 1: when or where. Um And then my friend reached out
Speaker 1: and said, Hey, you should come out to Kawaii and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this be perfect time, tiffany us
Speaker 1: to get away and like escape for a week. And
Speaker 1: he's like, and by the way, if you're gonna do it,
Speaker 1: this is the most amazing place on earth to get
Speaker 1: to propose. And I was like, the fact that you
Speaker 1: just said that means everything to me. So I bought
Speaker 1: her ring a week later, showed up at her doorstep.
Speaker 1: We went out to Kauai and we went on this
Speaker 1: beautiful hike and we got engaged. And on the hike
Speaker 1: back is when we kind of started talking about what
Speaker 1: love meant us, um, what do we want our wedding
Speaker 1: day to look like? And it kept coming back down
Speaker 1: to community because Um, I was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis
Speaker 1: when I was one, and so every opportunity I've had,
Speaker 1: I basically raised money and awareness for this disease. And
Speaker 1: Tiffany has been through a slew of mental health issues
Speaker 1: and depression, sexual abuse, and has PTSD from her childhood trauma.
Speaker 1: So she really leaned on her community in high school
Speaker 1: to get out of that. And so it just made
Speaker 1: perfect sense that, you know, on our big special day,
Speaker 1: we should give back to those who have given us
Speaker 1: so much and and why we're here today and why
Speaker 1: we're still standing. You guys are amazing. I'm like tearing
Speaker 1: up of the story. I mean, and for those of
Speaker 1: you listening, you guys are just beautiful people and you
Speaker 1: have just beautiful souls. So it's it's amazing to have
Speaker 1: done something like this. And Tiffany, you're not even feeling well.
Speaker 1: You're you've been sick by all week because you've been
Speaker 1: planning this, this gala event that's coming up on Saturday,
Speaker 1: for your birthday, for your sorry, for your wedding, for
Speaker 1: your birthday. Yeah, it's been it's been wild. It's been
Speaker 1: a year and a half of planning. And I think
Speaker 1: just this past weekend we had our rehearsal for like
Speaker 1: all the musical components, and that was the first time
Speaker 1: that we actually saw tangible um, tangible planning coming to life,
Speaker 1: so it kind of put everything to perspective for us.
Speaker 1: And we also were just surrounded by thirty plus people
Speaker 1: who jumped on board and got behind the mission and
Speaker 1: really believed in not only us but what we're trying
Speaker 1: to do. And um, yeah, it was really life changing
Speaker 1: for the both of us. And this is everything that
Speaker 1: we had dreamt of when we were first talking about
Speaker 1: this and again to kind of see it come to
Speaker 1: full fruition is it's pretty wild. But so can you
Speaker 1: walk us through what the day is going to look like? Yeah, definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's going to be an amazing day. Um, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be immersive experience that is hopefully life changing for everyone. Um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a reception from three to five, open bar.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have activation events, so um you can talk
Speaker 1: about those little Yeah, so we're having like little community
Speaker 1: activities that help kind of stirt purposeful and intentful. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a word, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: go with it. And yeah, we're gonna make that a word. Um.
Speaker 1: Conversations and like Caleb side cocktails and summer derves to
Speaker 1: kind of get everyone acquainted with one another, because not
Speaker 1: only are our friends and family coming, what we have
Speaker 1: strangers and just community members that are coming and joining
Speaker 1: us too. So I'm really excited for that. And then
Speaker 1: at five pm we kick off with the actual ceremony
Speaker 1: and Caleb and I actually get married, and I'm ordaining
Speaker 1: the wedding. Big news, dame, And so yeah, I'm officiating
Speaker 1: the wedding. Oh this Actually I was like, should I
Speaker 1: just I should have just let it go? But wait,
Speaker 1: Dean will be there. But Dean will be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and hopefully you guys too. You guys aren't doing anything,
Speaker 1: So I was I told you I was with Brandy
Speaker 1: this weekend, and Brandy Cyrus is going to be your
Speaker 1: way at the Gallo event right at the benefit of
Speaker 1: benefit concert. So She's like, you guys got to come out.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, Like this is such
Speaker 1: an amazing cause I'll be part of your wedding, yes,
Speaker 1: celebrating guy. And and the money. Yeah, I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, let's talk about the organizations that you
Speaker 1: decided to partner with. So, so you the goal is
Speaker 1: to raise half a million dollars for five separate nonprofit organizations.
Speaker 1: Ye definitely. Yeah. So following our wedding ceremony to go
Speaker 1: straight into the gallo where we talk about all five
Speaker 1: nonprofits that were raising money for UM for me, mental health, education,
Speaker 1: and low income families. Is the cause areas that I
Speaker 1: was personally touched by Caleb kind of touched on it
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier about my history and my past.
Speaker 1: UM for Education we have THINK together. They're one of
Speaker 1: the largest after school programs in UM California, and they
Speaker 1: do absolutely amazing work. UM a lot of immersive programs
Speaker 1: that really give the kids tools and resources to succeed. UM.
Speaker 1: Then we have the way for our foundation, which also
Speaker 1: is our fiscal sponsor, which allows us to operate as
Speaker 1: a five oh one C three. UM is serving the
Speaker 1: homeless population in Los Angeles County. So they have an
Speaker 1: amazing event called the Skid Role Carnival of Love UM,
Speaker 1: which is all about, you know, a big celebration for
Speaker 1: those who are experiencing homelessness and UM also providing resources
Speaker 1: that they may need, whether if it's health, education, finance,
Speaker 1: UM and so forth. And then the last one is
Speaker 1: to write love on her arms. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys, UM know this organization, but they started
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and six and I learned about them,
Speaker 1: um through my Space. What. Yeah, so they they started
Speaker 1: this huge campaign to write Love on Her Arms to
Speaker 1: help raise awareness for UM suicide and also to raise
Speaker 1: awareness for suicide preventions. So they're going to be there
Speaker 1: as well, and we're really excited. And I'll pass it
Speaker 1: over to Caleb to talk about the other two. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, I was diagnosed with CF. So my
Speaker 1: family after they heard I was diagnosed, UM, I got
Speaker 1: the life expectancy of nineteen years old and you're how
Speaker 1: old now? That deserves sport UM. So yeah, my family
Speaker 1: really leaned on the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation for you know,
Speaker 1: education resources and hope and so the we're going to
Speaker 1: give a portion to the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation, in particular
Speaker 1: one of their programs that targets UM targeted drug therapies,
Speaker 1: which is very promising for me. So they have the
Speaker 1: ability now to basically go into the specific cells that
Speaker 1: are affecting my lungs and correct them using crazy, crazy science.
Speaker 1: And so I was on a clinical trial UM for
Speaker 1: one of the drugs that the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation invested
Speaker 1: in UM. It didn't work out, but you know, in
Speaker 1: the next two to four years, it's looking very promising
Speaker 1: that I could potentially have a therapy that could eradicate
Speaker 1: a lot of these symptoms and slow down the progression
Speaker 1: of my disease. So we're really excited and in stoke
Speaker 1: to get back to them, as well as Global Genes,
Speaker 1: which is a rare disease foundation. Uh there's over seven
Speaker 1: thousand different rare diseases, and you can imagine, you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't get the publicity the hype that UM breast
Speaker 1: cancer gets or any of these others, so they need
Speaker 1: all the support they can get. And they have such
Speaker 1: an amazing foundation and they make such a huge splash
Speaker 1: in that community, and they're really driving to to give
Speaker 1: these patients resources and find cures. So yeah, five organization
Speaker 1: ha incredible organizations. And I think it's definitely worth noting that,
Speaker 1: Uh Caleb said it when he was born, or when
Speaker 1: he was diagnosed at one years old, he's basically doubled
Speaker 1: his life expectancy since then. And obviously you said two
Speaker 1: to four years from now there could be even more
Speaker 1: groundbreaking UM discoveries and medical advancements that will allow you,
Speaker 1: obviously to live longer than that. I mean, I can't
Speaker 1: even I don't think any of us can really imagine
Speaker 1: what it must be like to go through life of
Speaker 1: that type of disease. But um, I think it's it's
Speaker 1: obviously incredible you guys are doing, and I think that
Speaker 1: we all could kind of take a page out of
Speaker 1: your books. And um, Tiffany is actually when I first
Speaker 1: moved to Los Angeles, she was one of the people
Speaker 1: that I think I first sat down had like a
Speaker 1: real in depth conversation with and we actually went to
Speaker 1: hunter As We went to Hunters like two months ago
Speaker 1: with Ben and Riley in Humanity Hope Foundation, and um,
Speaker 1: you can really just see that she's a very bright
Speaker 1: light in this world and she's continuing to do those
Speaker 1: great things with this organization. Um. And obviously Caleb was
Speaker 1: an incredible man as well. Every time I play golf
Speaker 1: with him and kicks my ask. But that's what that's
Speaker 1: what blows my mind. You have this like degenerative degenerative
Speaker 1: disease of cystic fibrosis and you still kick everyone's ass
Speaker 1: at every sport that you compete in them with. It's like,
Speaker 1: how do you how do you have six lunk of
Speaker 1: function and you're still getting burries on every single I
Speaker 1: don't know, um, I mean, obviously, it's it's incredible what
Speaker 1: you guys are doing, and thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming in and sharing your story. It's pretty incredibly even
Speaker 1: from an outsider like myself, like you guys came in
Speaker 1: and I'm almost speechless to a certain extent because of
Speaker 1: how incredible that you are on your individual but as
Speaker 1: a couple. How powerful this really is to see you
Speaker 1: two come together, and to think that it all started
Speaker 1: from Instagram almost makes it even that a little bit
Speaker 1: better for this simple fact that so many like you
Speaker 1: guys are just such a good, great, wonderful couple and
Speaker 1: it all started from there, from liking each other's pictures,
Speaker 1: which is the most relatable thing I think anybody can
Speaker 1: ever have. And I love the fact that after you
Speaker 1: guys met on Instagram and then got engaged obviously, and
Speaker 1: then you guys were talking about what love meant to
Speaker 1: you and that's what you wanted your wedding day to
Speaker 1: be like. And that's something that I've always thought about
Speaker 1: to me with my partner, whoever, Hopefully that happens one
Speaker 1: day I get married is what what does love mean to?
Speaker 1: So that's what I want to exhibit in our wedding.
Speaker 1: And I think it's so wonderful that you guys are
Speaker 1: doing that, UM, and I really hope that everybody because
Speaker 1: I'm experienced it in person. Right now, I feel like
Speaker 1: everybody needs to experience what you guys present in person.
Speaker 1: And so, um, yeah, how do they get tickets to
Speaker 1: this wedding? How can they go? How can they celebrate
Speaker 1: love with you guys on Saturday? Yeah, So if you
Speaker 1: guys are still interested in coming to the gala and
Speaker 1: the benefit UM portion, they're still tickets. UM. There are
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars on the g wed dot com. That's UM.
Speaker 1: Also the benefit concert, which is UM right after the gala,
Speaker 1: it's thirty five dollars. And people can come crash the
Speaker 1: wedding and Vince von if you're listening, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I will be. This one is like one of my like,
Speaker 1: I love wedding crashers, So hey, I'm gonna be crashing
Speaker 1: this wedding. And I come from a very big Italian family,
Speaker 1: so we always give money at wedding, so I'm coming
Speaker 1: with cash so people can come with cash right, Yes, yes, definitely,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be silent auction raffles um in different opportun
Speaker 1: tunities to raise money and funds. There and one more
Speaker 1: way you could get back. We're really excited about our
Speaker 1: opening number. We have an original track that was produced
Speaker 1: by Matt Thalen, Jacob Mayeta and Sam Kassaka and it's
Speaker 1: called Nothing Can Tear Us Apart. It's available on iTunes.
Speaker 1: You can download it now for a dollar twenty nine
Speaker 1: and a portion of those proceeds go to help the
Speaker 1: g WED nonprofit. So and this is an original track
Speaker 1: made for you guys. Yeah, your first your song for
Speaker 1: your first dance, You guys will just have to give
Speaker 1: it away. But there is literally so much live music
Speaker 1: and a band like an incredible band that has been
Speaker 1: on tours with some of the most renowned artists. M
Speaker 1: and we have Q and A with a lot of
Speaker 1: UM the organizations and other UM. Dean himself write some
Speaker 1: of the questions. Yes, actually I could totally mean help.
Speaker 1: You're hired your new brides maid? I actually don't have
Speaker 1: a maid of honor, Vanessa, you get Vince Vaughn on tweet.
Speaker 1: Whoever can raise the most money is the best man,
Speaker 1: and he's not. He's not joking about that because I
Speaker 1: brought it up multiple times and he's like, well, my
Speaker 1: friend is actually out donating you right now, So you've
Speaker 1: got to raise a couple more dollars. Well, I have
Speaker 1: a question, Um, do people get uh, what's the call
Speaker 1: when you get donate money and you get a tax receipt?
Speaker 1: They do so with our fiscal sponsor, the Wayfair Foundation. Um, again,
Speaker 1: we're able to operate as a five one C three,
Speaker 1: So you get a tax receipt. Word, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: charitable donation. So well, I have one last question. Do
Speaker 1: you I've had like conversations with this with like boyfriends
Speaker 1: of mine and the conversation of destiny and fate. Do
Speaker 1: you believe that it was destiny brought you two together?
Speaker 1: And do you believe in fate? Oh? Yeah, absolutely. That
Speaker 1: we grew up fifteen minutes apart from each other. Um,
Speaker 1: we probably crossed paths a dozen times because high schools
Speaker 1: played against each other. We went to the same church.
Speaker 1: We we she knew my step mom before she became
Speaker 1: my stepmom. And this is a Chicago all in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and then we came out here and and met and
Speaker 1: it wasn't for me at least love at first sight.
Speaker 1: But because I had so, I knew what I wanted
Speaker 1: my letting down and I was like I needed to
Speaker 1: go through my own process. But and I still am UM,
Speaker 1: But no, I totally believe in destiny. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's like where your intention is. So if you
Speaker 1: because whatever you put out there, that's what you are
Speaker 1: attracted and so called that destiny, called that fate called
Speaker 1: that whatever. I think, if love is what you're looking
Speaker 1: for and and the raw, unconditional um love, it's going
Speaker 1: to come back around. And I think one of the
Speaker 1: things that we often talk about a lot, and we're
Speaker 1: going to talk a lot about the Night of is
Speaker 1: being vulnerable and being open. That's one thing that really
Speaker 1: mushed us together was being able to talk about the
Speaker 1: really hard, difficult things that most people kind of just
Speaker 1: suppressed and I don't want to talk about. But it's hard,
Speaker 1: and you have to be there for one another, and
Speaker 1: you have to be patient, and you have to be um.
Speaker 1: You've got to be committed to it and so and
Speaker 1: know that the other perfection doesn't exist. And you guys
Speaker 1: have been doing a lot of press regarding this the
Speaker 1: g WED as you guys are calling it, because do
Speaker 1: you find that that helps you open up even more
Speaker 1: about things or has it been a challenge to kind
Speaker 1: of get traction with all that. Yeah, I know that
Speaker 1: has been a crazy experience in itself because we had
Speaker 1: made a little five minutes segment video to kind of
Speaker 1: kick off this whole idea of project, and that was
Speaker 1: the first time we really like because we was on camera,
Speaker 1: like I broke down probably a dozen times and and
Speaker 1: just let all this like things that I've suppressed in
Speaker 1: the past like come up. And so, yeah, this has
Speaker 1: been such a growing experience for both of us for
Speaker 1: our relationship, and like we're so glad we were going
Speaker 1: to either go big, I mean, go go to the
Speaker 1: courthouse or you know, do this the greatest wedding ever donated.
Speaker 1: And we're so thankful because we get amazing people like
Speaker 1: you and you guys are the amazing ones it is,
Speaker 1: I mean, And just to kind of piggyback off that
Speaker 1: it takes it takes the power away from a lot
Speaker 1: of the things that we've experienced personally. Um talk therapy
Speaker 1: is like a huge thing, and but I think when
Speaker 1: you're able to kind of say whatever happened, like my
Speaker 1: sexual abuse. Like, but the first time that I said
Speaker 1: it and told Caleb, I was bawling for eight hours.
Speaker 1: Couldn't even say it, could not, I would not don't
Speaker 1: even want to go there. And the more that I
Speaker 1: talked about it and the more the more comfortable that
Speaker 1: I got with it, and then I was less in
Speaker 1: like a victimization kind of state and more of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm past it and I want to be empowered by
Speaker 1: this rather than held back by it. Um And the
Speaker 1: same thing goes for Caleb. I think he's lived his
Speaker 1: life like this the whole that so I'm learning it.
Speaker 1: He's he's the optimist out of the relationship, and he's
Speaker 1: because like, yeah, when you're given a life expectancy at
Speaker 1: age one and you're like, well, I have one way
Speaker 1: to live and that's the only way that I go.
Speaker 1: So I think it's incredible inspiration for the listeners out
Speaker 1: there if you want to make a charitable donation to
Speaker 1: something uh greater than yourself, something for love for Caleb
Speaker 1: and Tiffany, but more importantly for them, the donations that
Speaker 1: are I'm sorry that the charitable organizations that they're working with.
Speaker 1: Go to www dot the g web dot com. It's
Speaker 1: th h E g w E D. And when you
Speaker 1: guys made your first Instagram, I was always calling it
Speaker 1: the GWED was like by we didn't even know what
Speaker 1: to call it. I think go to the website. We
Speaker 1: have a wead quarters. It's perfect. Um, so check it
Speaker 1: out www dot the web dot com. No donation is
Speaker 1: too small. Even if you can only give a little bit,
Speaker 1: anything counts. Uh. If you're in the Los Angeles, please
Speaker 1: come to the ceremony on Saturday, the charity concert afterwards
Speaker 1: as well. Yes, Vanessa is gonna be there. I'm going
Speaker 1: to be there, Ben and Brandy will be there. Um,
Speaker 1: Tiffany and Caleb of course they're going to be there,
Speaker 1: and maybe we can convince Jarrett to come as well.
Speaker 1: Way on Saturday. Cancel those plans. I know, I'm honestly
Speaker 1: debating it. But if you're not in the area, like
Speaker 1: Dean said, you can always go on the website to donate.
Speaker 1: Download the song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so cute. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys are amazing. We got a lot of response to Sean.
Speaker 1: Shawn emailed us last week saying I have no confidence
Speaker 1: for asking out women, remember, Sean. Yes, well, we got
Speaker 1: a lot of response. Here's Bella. She's twenty one and
Speaker 1: she says, I would absolutely rather guys come up to
Speaker 1: me than hit on me from behind a phone screen. Sean,
Speaker 1: if you're listening, this is big news for you. I
Speaker 1: grew up with online dating, and still it would sweep
Speaker 1: me off my feet if a guy came up to
Speaker 1: me in person, gave me a compliment and asked me out, bar,
Speaker 1: grocery store, class, whatever. Most of us girls are open
Speaker 1: to it. We won't be creeped out if you don't
Speaker 1: do it in a creepy way. Now here's my question.
Speaker 1: I have met guys who are totally awesome online, funny
Speaker 1: and outgoing. We click so well, but they're totally quiet, boring,
Speaker 1: lifeless and weird in person. Why is this? Dean Eastern Mark,
Speaker 1: Eric and Jared, Vanessa, Vanessa and Clee a girl in
Speaker 1: Why do guys are a totally different personality in person
Speaker 1: that do over text? Do girls do this too? I
Speaker 1: need more of an answer than they're nervous. I'm nervous too,
Speaker 1: but I am my best self on a date. What
Speaker 1: do you guys think about this? Is this both genders.
Speaker 1: Is this this generation because it's all online dating. I
Speaker 1: think there's like a it's a combination of things one
Speaker 1: I think in of personal relationships, like the first two First, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say the first time you meet someone in person,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the audition process. You're like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be like polite and I'm gonna do all these
Speaker 1: things that I think this other person wants me to
Speaker 1: do or say, and you're not totally being yourself, so
Speaker 1: you're kind of like filtering like the person that you are.
Speaker 1: So I would say, like give it like two or
Speaker 1: three dates until you really get to see who that
Speaker 1: person is and if they if that personality that you
Speaker 1: liked on the screen, you know, behind you know, on
Speaker 1: whatever app you guys met, if it does end up
Speaker 1: coming up later. Yeah, we talked about this the three
Speaker 1: day rule, like usually you go on three days before
Speaker 1: you can really judge if this person is going to
Speaker 1: be something substantial or not. Having said that, man, it
Speaker 1: is tough. We talked about this last week. Putting your
Speaker 1: mindset into a younger generation because this generation has just
Speaker 1: grown up with the facts. We talked to people over phones, no,
Speaker 1: not in person, and so it's kind of awkward when
Speaker 1: you first meet somebody, especially as a year old. There's
Speaker 1: a couple of things working, though. I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of communication can get lost via text. Like you
Speaker 1: even like some of your closest friends you text with
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, they're a different version of themselves
Speaker 1: when they're texting, just because people look at texting differently
Speaker 1: than they do like verbal communication. I will say that
Speaker 1: I think I'm funnier over text, mostly because I can
Speaker 1: take a little bit longer to come up with Google
Speaker 1: answers exactly funny, especially in those first moments of a
Speaker 1: relationship where you're like trying to be funny and like
Speaker 1: out going all this kind of stuff. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I like to think that even when I'm in the
Speaker 1: first date mode and I get to meet that person
Speaker 1: face to face for the first time, I'm still kind
Speaker 1: of that way, but definitely not as funny. So maybe
Speaker 1: that's just the same situation. Do you ever like write
Speaker 1: out an answer in a queue and then leave it
Speaker 1: there for a couple minutes and then come back to
Speaker 1: it and you're like, it either sounds better you think
Speaker 1: of something worse, or better to say no. But maybe
Speaker 1: I should start. Yeah, you write it out, that's what
Speaker 1: I just no, no, no, it depends on what I'm
Speaker 1: texting or i'm texting, if it's like or emailing, obviously
Speaker 1: making sure if it is like some sort of business
Speaker 1: or a professional thing, like I'll write it out first,
Speaker 1: reread it, kind of take separate myself from it for
Speaker 1: five minutes, and then come back and reread it again
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, okay, this sounds better. I read it.
Speaker 1: I read it out loud. Not I'm not saying if
Speaker 1: you're texting a all you should be doing this, but
Speaker 1: sometimes it helps if you read it out loud, take
Speaker 1: a minute to think about it, and you're like, nope,
Speaker 1: it sounds better if I shorten it or do this
Speaker 1: to do that, I'm the opposite. I'll write something out,
Speaker 1: I'll look at it. I'd be like this is so stupid,
Speaker 1: send like why am I saying this? Or writing this?
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Usually it's the best course of action, though
Speaker 1: it's just I think I don't have the patience to
Speaker 1: come back to something later on. I'm not saying this involved.
Speaker 1: I sorry. I took it off of the rails because
Speaker 1: I was thinking more of like emails and business things,
Speaker 1: but this is like more in in this case, it
Speaker 1: sounds like it's a business thing. But Bella her complaint
Speaker 1: It is a lack of confidence. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people have because there's so much more confident behind
Speaker 1: a keyboard, behind their phone, and then face faces. It
Speaker 1: can be intimidating, especially if you're most of your conversation
Speaker 1: is happening in Bella. Why don't you do this then?
Speaker 1: Why don't you for why don't you try face timing
Speaker 1: them before you meet them in person, so you kind
Speaker 1: of like break the ice. That's a good idea. I
Speaker 1: don't hate it. I think Case definitely give him a
Speaker 1: second chance. But I like the FaceTime idea. I think
Speaker 1: that's really good. Um, there was one time back ages
Speaker 1: ago when I was doing the online dating thing, maybe
Speaker 1: like three or four years ago, and I was gonna
Speaker 1: meet up with this girl, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that this is going to
Speaker 1: be something that's like worth both a while, So I
Speaker 1: did the FaceTime thing. It ended up actually being Um,
Speaker 1: we went on a few dates, were still friends to
Speaker 1: this day. Didn't really turn to anything too serious, but
Speaker 1: it definitely was a lot better going into the date
Speaker 1: knowing that we had already had a face to face conversation.
Speaker 1: All right. Another response to Sean, Carolyn says, First of all,
Speaker 1: she says, love the podcast. So happy Jared's become a
Speaker 1: coded the team. Carolyne, Thank you, Carolyn. Excuse me, Carolyn. Yes.
Speaker 1: Regarding Shawn's email, there was a conversation about nineteen year
Speaker 1: olds asking people out in person. I'm a nineteen year
Speaker 1: old girl and I absolutely prefer to be asked out
Speaker 1: in person, and it has happened to me maybe twice. Agreed,
Speaker 1: shows total confidence no matter what you look like. I
Speaker 1: will give five minutes of my time to have a
Speaker 1: conversation because you are pursuing a conversation with me. But now,
Speaker 1: for Jared and Dean being nine and twenty seven, would
Speaker 1: you ever date someone who was nineteen twenty If you
Speaker 1: asked someone else thinking they were older and then found
Speaker 1: out they were that age, would that be a complete
Speaker 1: turn off for you? This is from experience. She said
Speaker 1: she went on on a date with the twenty seven
Speaker 1: year old and thought she was older, which she said
Speaker 1: she was nineteen. Something switched. It kind of ended at
Speaker 1: that point. Thanks for the time. Hopefully next week, I'll
Speaker 1: suck a little bit less. Caroline, I'm gonna say I
Speaker 1: might catch some plaque for this that that is too young.
Speaker 1: I know, thats just it's just too young. I'll let
Speaker 1: you guys answer this one and then I'll chime in.
Speaker 1: I try to always think of age is just a number,
Speaker 1: and that it's more than just you know, a number
Speaker 1: that you can put on somebody. Having said that, it
Speaker 1: is hard for you know, somebody who is, like you said, seven,
Speaker 1: to overlook the fact that they're dating a nineteen year old.
Speaker 1: But to Carolin's point, you're clicking, you meet this person,
Speaker 1: you're clicking. Age doesn't come up. You're having a great conversation.
Speaker 1: There's a mutual attraction there. Oh, by the way, I'm nineteen.
Speaker 1: Are you at the door? No, I don't think you
Speaker 1: should be out the door, But it's I think it
Speaker 1: asked more questions early on in the relationship. Um, that
Speaker 1: may not be there if you're dating year old. Having
Speaker 1: said that, like you know, like think about college. You
Speaker 1: know you're twenty seven year old. You know, if you're
Speaker 1: twenty seven and you have your you know, you have
Speaker 1: your job and your say you bought a house and
Speaker 1: you're kind of ready to settle down, and then you're
Speaker 1: dating a nineteen year old and she's like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm going into my junior years college, you know, and
Speaker 1: I don't graduate for two more years, and then I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about going to my masters, and like he's doing
Speaker 1: that you know, age in his head, and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's four years from now. So I'm thirty one then,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, do you guys really think like that
Speaker 1: A seven? I don't think so, I don't think as much.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like I think that there are
Speaker 1: coming A couple of things come to mind that benefit
Speaker 1: Caroline's case right now. One is that she's in Vancouver.
Speaker 1: And one of the one of the turnofs for me
Speaker 1: for dating someone under twenty one in America is that
Speaker 1: we can't go to bar settings with my friends or
Speaker 1: her friends, et cetera, because we wait, how old is she? Right?
Speaker 1: If you're doing long distance, because in Canada, well, in
Speaker 1: montreal's eighteen, and then I think that the rest of
Speaker 1: Canada might be nine years. I'm just saying, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that the twenty seven year old that she met is
Speaker 1: also in Vancouver, and so that's not that's a non
Speaker 1: issue for them there that would be in America. Number
Speaker 1: two working in our favor is that we have a
Speaker 1: success story in this studio right now about mid to
Speaker 1: late twenties man dating eight teen the nineteen year old
Speaker 1: woman that is now married of fifteen years with two kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was twenty six and she was eighteen.
Speaker 1: So what's your advice on this? My advice is, if
Speaker 1: you're clicking, this could be the one you never know.
Speaker 1: And look, I feel like so my last relationship, he
Speaker 1: was nine years older than I was, so I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is perfect. Like I was always
Speaker 1: the girl that wanted to have kids and wanted to
Speaker 1: be married, and I thought I needed to date an
Speaker 1: older guy because then I thought, you know, he's established,
Speaker 1: he's at the age where he's gonna want kids. He
Speaker 1: wasn't at that point yet. So I do think that
Speaker 1: if you're both, if you're um, if your life is,
Speaker 1: if you have the same intentions and the same goals,
Speaker 1: then who really cares about age? You know. It's so
Speaker 1: hard though, because we always tell people like you shouldn't
Speaker 1: really settle it down to your late twenties because you
Speaker 1: really need to find out more about yourself. So it's
Speaker 1: like it's almost like a double standard to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: where you're talking about both sides of your mouth. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you, guys, I was just saying society in general,
Speaker 1: where it's like one side it's like, well, age just summer,
Speaker 1: it's this nineteen or twenty, and then the next person
Speaker 1: will say, well, you need really figure yourself out before
Speaker 1: you can settle down and find out the person, because
Speaker 1: if you're married too young, then you're always curious about
Speaker 1: We're not talking about marriage right now. We're talking about
Speaker 1: right now. But I'm just saying, like, it's just also,
Speaker 1: it's just it's a very gray area. So of course
Speaker 1: I don't think I should just throw somebody out with
Speaker 1: their nineteen years old if you like them them only
Speaker 1: assessed on a case by case basis. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's one great hunching rule. Look at Marx case, he's,
Speaker 1: you know, happily married fifteen years. They met when they
Speaker 1: were eight years apart, and she was eighteen. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to tackle this next email you guys, you ready
Speaker 1: for this? Who is? This? One's from Janelle Hi Dean
Speaker 1: Mark Easton Jared and Vanessa. I'm so sick of sending
Speaker 1: messages on dating apps and not getting a response. I've
Speaker 1: tried the simple high finding someone in the profile to
Speaker 1: comment on, and even Erica's subseal, and I still only
Speaker 1: get one reply for every twenty messages I sent. I've
Speaker 1: told you, Janelle, do not use the sub sal. I've
Speaker 1: even slid into a few d ms, including Jared's Actually
Speaker 1: funny enough, what could I be doing? What all their
Speaker 1: ideas would you recommend? I'm almost thirty and I'm so
Speaker 1: sick of seeing these dead ends. Is wanting to get
Speaker 1: on e Harmony? Hell, I can't even get the date
Speaker 1: to suck at dating? I love this all. Oh man,
Speaker 1: um hey, I like I said earlier, when I just
Speaker 1: turned thirty and I was single and I really wanted
Speaker 1: to find a committed relationship. I was opening up my
Speaker 1: you know, the idea to joining Yeah, like whatever harmony exactly,
Speaker 1: but I mean, like something, that's how you met this
Speaker 1: guy that you're dating. We're not talking about that. We
Speaker 1: are talking to Janelle better her chances to find someone important,
Speaker 1: and you're really only hurting Janelle, right, I hope you know, Jane,
Speaker 1: I'll just slide into my d M s and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about and then screenshot them and post them. Were, Um,
Speaker 1: where was I going with this? What kind of doing well? Janelle?
Speaker 1: You should absolutely join e harmony or put yourself out there,
Speaker 1: and I don't think you're doing anything was sliding in
Speaker 1: d M. I'm sorry if I did not answer yours,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but uh, but yeah, go for it. Go
Speaker 1: an the harmony, absolutely, go on match, go on tender,
Speaker 1: go on whatever you want, like, put yourself out there.
Speaker 1: I know, I guess you can't say that you've sucked.
Speaker 1: You suck at dating unless you kind of put yourself
Speaker 1: out in different avenues to go on dates, which would
Speaker 1: be online dating. Now, Tammy made the the advice earlier.
Speaker 1: Maybe she was a little biased because she's a matchmaker
Speaker 1: and she doesn't want to condone the use of those apps,
Speaker 1: but she was saying, just like, go to charity events,
Speaker 1: go on out there, go to things that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: where you met. If you met someone at one of
Speaker 1: those things, and you would know that he's a stand
Speaker 1: up guy because he is putting himself in those environments
Speaker 1: to give back to organizations or you know, put something
Speaker 1: else before himself, and I think there's something to be
Speaker 1: said about focusing on yourself doing things for yourself, because
Speaker 1: I also believe what you put out there is what
Speaker 1: you get back. So if you go out to an
Speaker 1: event and you go out your friends and you just
Speaker 1: go out to have fun, uh, people will be naturally
Speaker 1: gravitate towards you, and you never know who might come
Speaker 1: say hi, I completely agree with you. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be a really weird analogy. But you know when you
Speaker 1: go shopping and you're looking for like a specific dress
Speaker 1: with polka dots, and you're like, I can't find that.
Speaker 1: I can't find it because you're just focusing on that
Speaker 1: one thing, and then randomly one day when you go shopping,
Speaker 1: you and to finding that exact dress that you always wanted.
Speaker 1: I think if you're focusing on yourself and you know,
Speaker 1: do things to further your career and to further yourself
Speaker 1: as as a woman, it'll end up happening naturally. So
Speaker 1: I do believe in it. I wanted to get to
Speaker 1: Taylor real quickly. She's a senior in high school. She
Speaker 1: thinks she might be a little younger sec dating, but
Speaker 1: she says plenty of boys hold on because I'm I'm
Speaker 1: from Canada. So what is senior? Oh, senior twelve grade twelve,
Speaker 1: eighteen years old, that's secondary. I'm sorry, what is different? Okay?
Speaker 1: So in Canada, Well, in Quebec we have one to
Speaker 1: grade one to six and then we have high school,
Speaker 1: so that's secondary one to second every five and then
Speaker 1: we have two years of pre university, which is stage up,
Speaker 1: and then we have university for four years. Didn't make
Speaker 1: it the gist of that. Basically, she's like seventeen, maybe
Speaker 1: eight two. She's senior in high school, and she took
Speaker 1: horticulture because she needed more science credit this semester, and
Speaker 1: she loves the class, and along the way she didn't
Speaker 1: have to crush on a boy named Connor. He's funny
Speaker 1: and charming, with pretty quiet and shy and sometimes a
Speaker 1: little too sarcastic wish to me as every every high
Speaker 1: school boy, including myself at that age. When I first
Speaker 1: met him, I told my friends I liked him. Now
Speaker 1: a couple of months later, I think he's making comments
Speaker 1: he likes me. They aren't super clear, but it's like
Speaker 1: he's testing the waters see if I like him back.
Speaker 1: So my question is do I make a move and
Speaker 1: flat out ask him what he's been trying to hint
Speaker 1: at side note, he's leaving for boot camp later this summer,
Speaker 1: so I don't really know what our future would be.
Speaker 1: But I just don't know whether or not to take
Speaker 1: matters into my own hands and take action. Love you all,
Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. Taylor in Seattle, not far
Speaker 1: from Vancouver. Oh yeah, girl, I say, what have you
Speaker 1: got to lose? Nothing to lose, and plus, don't worry
Speaker 1: about the boot camp during this summer. If things are
Speaker 1: going to work out, that work out, Like if what's
Speaker 1: the worst that can happen? You end up falling in
Speaker 1: love with this guy, and then obviously you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to deal with some sort of long distance relationship. But
Speaker 1: is that really the worst thing possible that you find love?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a post a long distance I
Speaker 1: actually enjoy Italy very different. I'm gonna take I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play a devil's advocate and say, don't sweat it, don't
Speaker 1: even go for it. Why because they are both seniors
Speaker 1: in college high school. I'm sorry, they're both seniors in
Speaker 1: high school. They're probably gonna end up going different colleges.
Speaker 1: That's going to take away from both of their college experience.
Speaker 1: The boot camp sounds like you might be in the military.
Speaker 1: He was just saying that, And then all of a sudden, see,
Speaker 1: this is what we do. We talk on both sides
Speaker 1: of the mouth, where like, she's what assume she's eighteen.
Speaker 1: She's one year younger than the nineteen year old that
Speaker 1: emailed us, And you told them to like, don't worry
Speaker 1: about age, don't worry about long distance. You should just
Speaker 1: you know, I never said I. Yes, I said it
Speaker 1: as him, But you were just making the case that
Speaker 1: you should just kind of live out your pinies and
Speaker 1: find yourself. It sounds like to me, she's got a
Speaker 1: very harmless crush on a guy that she kind of
Speaker 1: liked in high school who might kind of like her back.
Speaker 1: This is by no means she likes him well enough
Speaker 1: to be writing up of course. And I make all
Speaker 1: the time, and I will say that I'm making this
Speaker 1: argument solely to see the other side of this as well.
Speaker 1: But I just think as going into college. I went
Speaker 1: into college. I went to my freshman year of college
Speaker 1: in a relationship with someone that I did in high school.
Speaker 1: I don't regret it. By any means, but it definitely
Speaker 1: you go to college to experience new things and have
Speaker 1: fun with friends and as many new people as you
Speaker 1: possibly can, and maybe get an education as well while
Speaker 1: you're there. And I don't know, I just think that
Speaker 1: it sounds like it's harmless of enough of a crush
Speaker 1: to not lose sleep over it if it doesn't amount
Speaker 1: to anything, which it sounds like. There are high school sweethearts,
Speaker 1: you know. I was about to say, what would you
Speaker 1: what would you say to high school sweethearts? I've never
Speaker 1: heard of that before. Was that, I'm just know high
Speaker 1: school sweethearts are fine too. That's but they were sweethearts
Speaker 1: in high school. This girl is a senior in high school.
Speaker 1: She took a garden in class and met a guy
Speaker 1: and has a small crush on him, and now he
Speaker 1: might have a crush on her backgol, Taylor shot, but
Speaker 1: don't invest too much into it, is what I'm saying. Saying. Fact,
Speaker 1: I think that you guys are all like they're getting married.
Speaker 1: I said, don't be concerned about the boot camp. If
Speaker 1: it goes that far, then let the chips fall where
Speaker 1: they may. Don't worry about that, right, Taylor, forget about
Speaker 1: this guy, Taylor. Just ask him. I would just ask
Speaker 1: him just to serious, Yes, ask him and make your
Speaker 1: feelings clearout any intentions. Yes, what we're saying, Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: just saying the same far alright, one more and then
Speaker 1: we gotta wrap it up, all right, Yale. I met
Speaker 1: my boyfriend in our college Jim, back in September. Started
Speaker 1: off his friends ended up sleeping together. Afterwards. I asked
Speaker 1: him if this is a one time thing or what
Speaker 1: He said, No, I'm into this. Let's see where it goes. However,
Speaker 1: that's what everything seemed to flip for him in his life.
Speaker 1: He got kicked out of school because of poor grades.
Speaker 1: He had to move back with his parents in Nevada.
Speaker 1: He's twenty seven and pursuing his undergrad I'm twenty four
Speaker 1: and then my second year of grad school. He visited
Speaker 1: once a week in the beginning, but then ghost of
Speaker 1: three weeks in and when he finally returned my text,
Speaker 1: he said he was depressed. Kind of get that anyway.
Speaker 1: He ended up finding an internship for the summer seven
Speaker 1: hours away from me. He agreed and needed to work
Speaker 1: on his communication. If we were going to make this happen,
Speaker 1: He left at the end of March and is visiting
Speaker 1: in June, but will be done with his internship until August.
Speaker 1: Communication still real bad. We talked maybe once a week
Speaker 1: if it all. He blames that I'm being busy with work,
Speaker 1: but I truly believe if we make that we make
Speaker 1: time for those we want to. So it's all b
Speaker 1: s to me. Should I end things now? Are a
Speaker 1: wait for him to turn And I actually try to date,
Speaker 1: not be long distance. I like him, but it's tough
Speaker 1: without communication. An Ari l oh Arial, I will always
Speaker 1: say this, the person that you're meant to trying to
Speaker 1: think it's supposed to be easy when you first started.
Speaker 1: You know, when you date someone, it should be easy.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, like the relationship would naturally take
Speaker 1: like its course of like you know, having ups and
Speaker 1: downs and stuff. But if a person is into you,
Speaker 1: they will do whatever it takes to make it work,
Speaker 1: especially if they're having a hard time. And I always
Speaker 1: say this, when you're dating someone, it shouldn't be How
Speaker 1: is this going to affect me? Is? How is it
Speaker 1: going to affect us? And I see that you've adopted
Speaker 1: that mentality, and I'm not sure if he has entirely.
Speaker 1: And granted, I mean, like it seems like he is
Speaker 1: going through a lot right now. Um, but I think, um,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Yeah, I can totally empathize with a
Speaker 1: guy that doesn't feel like maybe he's good enough for
Speaker 1: a girl like this and that's why he's probably pushing
Speaker 1: her away. That's probably accurate. But what he needs to
Speaker 1: do is if he really likes you, ari l he'll
Speaker 1: put his insecurities and doubts to the side if he
Speaker 1: thinks that you're the most important person right now. And
Speaker 1: obviously he doesn't view that, and so I think right now,
Speaker 1: the best thing would probably to cut off communication for
Speaker 1: the simple fact that he needs to focus on himself
Speaker 1: and you never know where the world will take you
Speaker 1: or like if you know, you guys meet up however
Speaker 1: long from now, and maybe he's in a better place
Speaker 1: and okay, but right now, it just seems that he's
Speaker 1: not in a good place, and that's putting you in
Speaker 1: a bad place with him because he's not doing what's
Speaker 1: best for you. Guys. He's kind of doing what's best
Speaker 1: for himself right now, which is okay if he's in
Speaker 1: a bad place. Having said that, I think for you,
Speaker 1: it's best if you cut off communication. And I think
Speaker 1: Vanessa said something last week along the lines of girl,
Speaker 1: you don't gotta wait for no man and it's not
Speaker 1: even But here's the thing about all But here's the
Speaker 1: thing about waiting too, is that I think, um, you
Speaker 1: should never wait for anybody. But like, how do I
Speaker 1: describe this most instructive word in relationship? Bottom line, she's
Speaker 1: not top of mind with him right now. Well, he's
Speaker 1: got a lot going on. But yeah, maybe the timing
Speaker 1: is wrong. So what's the advice. Do we suggest that
Speaker 1: they just kind of fizzle their communication or do we
Speaker 1: suggest to her that she tells him that they should
Speaker 1: just stop talking. I think I think I think she
Speaker 1: should tell him to stop talking with the upper hand
Speaker 1: and be like, listen because it might light a fire.
Speaker 1: Owners Like, so it's either going to go one of
Speaker 1: two ways. I know, even if it does light a
Speaker 1: fire under his But I still think she's just So
Speaker 1: what if he started texting her all the day and
Speaker 1: starts going to visit her all the time and then
Speaker 1: really starts and then starts bettering his own life because
Speaker 1: he wants to have this work. Sure, he'll do that
Speaker 1: until he gets it back to where he wants her,
Speaker 1: and then he'll do exactly what he's done right now
Speaker 1: and continue to go. So you're saying that if he
Speaker 1: does start showcasing signs, what if like this goes on
Speaker 1: for like two months and he starts really putting more
Speaker 1: effort in time into the relationship, you still say like, Nope,
Speaker 1: I think I think the issue with this is once
Speaker 1: he realized what where they were, and once he realized
Speaker 1: that he had her, he started fading away in his
Speaker 1: communication and started getting lackadaisical with it. And then once
Speaker 1: she says him that she that he no longer has her,
Speaker 1: then he'll light a fire owners but reignite him to
Speaker 1: to get her back and once So what you're saying
Speaker 1: is that people don't deserve second chances. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that at all. So what are you saying. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that this guy I'm so interested. Okay, keep going.
Speaker 1: I am saying that this guy sounds like people that
Speaker 1: I know that have done something similar to this. It's
Speaker 1: not saying that people don't deserve second chances, because that's
Speaker 1: absolutely not true. Everyone deserves a second chance. But I
Speaker 1: just think that maybe he's out of place in his
Speaker 1: life where a relationship is in a priority for him,
Speaker 1: and because of that, he'll get stuck in the cycle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My concern is that they've been dating for a while
Speaker 1: September of last year, and he goes to her for
Speaker 1: three weeks. That's I totally agree. That's why I think
Speaker 1: they should cut it off. I don't foresee this guy
Speaker 1: really putting effort in. What I'm saying is if he
Speaker 1: starts showcasing more effort like that's I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's a very gray area whether you shut the door completely.
Speaker 1: I'm an optic, like I'm very optimistic in a relationship.
Speaker 1: I like to try everything possible before I say goodbye.
Speaker 1: So arial My advice is, if you feel like you've
Speaker 1: done and said everything that you needed to say and
Speaker 1: do in order to this relationship a successful one, and
Speaker 1: you're so unhappy, then it might be time for you
Speaker 1: to try something different. I'm trying to be more edgy
Speaker 1: and opinionated. I'm telling Ario what she needs to do
Speaker 1: is text him, don't even give him the decency of
Speaker 1: a phone call, telling this telling that she's no longer
Speaker 1: interested in having conversations with him. No longer interesting, block
Speaker 1: his phone number on Instagram and Facebook and everything, all
Speaker 1: of that stuff, and then move on and find someone
Speaker 1: maybe in your graduate program with you. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to this is off topic entirely,
Speaker 1: but I didn't get a chance to work it in
Speaker 1: organically into the conversation earlier. Facebook had just announced this
Speaker 1: morning that they are unrolling a dating um not an application,
Speaker 1: but like a dating form for their website as well.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be like Facebook tender ask thing. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. And maybe we can talk about that
Speaker 1: next week, but that'll do it for this week. UM,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being in studio again, both
Speaker 1: Jared and Vanessa. I love that for you. Like I
Speaker 1: think we had a listening email earlier saying how grateful
Speaker 1: we are to have have him in studio every single week.
Speaker 1: And I say, gran and Vanessa two weeks in a row,
Speaker 1: sign this girl on. She's killing it. Hit. Um. We
Speaker 1: hope to make this a common thing. I hope it
Speaker 1: seems like you know, I like the flow of it.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna come right out and say it. I'm
Speaker 1: liking the synergy. UM. So again, big thank you to
Speaker 1: you guys. Big thank you to Tiffany and Caleb of course,
Speaker 1: who are back in the back room behind us right now.
Speaker 1: They're not really paying attention, but they're beautiful people. They're
Speaker 1: doing an incredible thing. Um b sure check out their
Speaker 1: website www dot the g wed dot com t h
Speaker 1: E g w E d dot com. Uh, the greatest
Speaker 1: wedding over donated is what it stands for. Big thank
Speaker 1: you to Tammy Pickle at Elite Connections dot com. Um,
Speaker 1: if you have the funding available and you're really serious
Speaker 1: about getting into a relationship, checker out. Big thank you
Speaker 1: to Sherry's berries. They're delicious. They're nutritious. Everyone loves chocolate.
Speaker 1: You get a whole bunch of berries, so many berries,
Speaker 1: your mam will love them. Big thank you to Ku
Speaker 1: Doba for bringing us lunch today. It was amazing. I
Speaker 1: had some barbacoa and oh my god, that was amazing. Welcome,
Speaker 1: really good. This was a fun episode. I really appreciate
Speaker 1: everyone listening. Be sure to tune in next week for
Speaker 1: next week's episode of Help I Suck at Dating. This
Speaker 1: has been Dean, Jared Vanessa and maybe next week we'll
Speaker 1: all suck a little bit less. Follow help I Suck
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