1 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: New episode of fish Bites with me Eli Sussman. You're 2 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: managing editor at fish Stripes. You know where to find 3 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: us by now, All episodes of the pod uploaded to 4 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: the fish Stripes podcast channel on whatever pod provider you're 5 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: most comfortable with. Full coverage of the Miami Marlins on 6 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: our website fishstripes dot com. You can find us on 7 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: social media at fish Stripes on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. 8 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: The rapidly growing YouTube channel fish Stripes on YouTube just 9 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: barely a month on there, and a lot of exclusive 10 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: content that we only upload on that channel. Make sure 11 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: to subscribe. Our twenty twenty Marlins season preview is well underway, 12 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: and a very interesting wrinkle in that preview just thrown 13 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: to us on Monday night with some transactions that were 14 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: going to cover in just a moment. A special announcement 15 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: that we've already put up on the website and tried 16 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: to promote, but making sure everyone is aware of this. 17 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: Stripe's Night twenty twenty, our first meet up at a 18 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Marlins game. 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Our first 34 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: meetup of the year, obviously considering it's barely it's not 35 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: even going to be a week into the Grapefruit League calendar, 36 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: and trying to get as many of you as possible 37 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: to come out on that Thursday night. Full details of 38 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: that are on fish stripes dot com. We're gonna be 39 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: collecting orders through Venmo at fish Stripes on venmo is 40 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: how how you send payments for the tickets? All those 41 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: details on the site. Just go to the homepage fish 42 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Stripes dot com and there's a post pinned near the 43 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: top fish Stripes Night twenty twenty. That's the full details 44 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: about how to complete your order. I'll be giving you 45 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: guys reminders about that in the upcoming weeks as well. 46 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: Still a couple weeks until we lock in the full 47 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: group order, but we hope to see you out there 48 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: fish Stripes Night twenty twenty and to bring the whole 49 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: community together to finally watch some real baseball after what's 50 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: been a really exciting offseason. The latest developments in that 51 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: offseason coming up right now. It had been anticipated for 52 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: more than a full week where the Marlins had reportedly 53 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: agree to terms with Brandon Kinsler, the veteran reliever, and 54 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Matt Joyce, the platoon outfielder, on free agent deals, and 55 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: those deals had been all but official for a while now, 56 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: so much so that they'd been finalized and both players 57 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: had gone on MLB Network Radio to discuss their new 58 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: deals even before they had been announced. So everything was 59 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: all said, we were all just anxiously awaiting the corresponding 60 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: roster moves. That's been a point of a lot of 61 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: intrigue throughout this entire offseason, where the Marlins have had 62 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: this completely full forty manter roster. Every time they add 63 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: somebody new, they have to get rid of somebody old, 64 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: and in this case, they needed to clear two spots. 65 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: That decision came on early Monday evening when they designated 66 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: for assignment Harlan Garcia and Josei Kihada, two left handers 67 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: from their bullpen last year, to make room for Kinsler 68 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: and for Joyce. Plain level analysis on this is that 69 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: Joyce and Kinsler will be better for the team in 70 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty than Harlan and Kihata would, but both Kinsel 71 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: and Joyce are on one year deals, Kinsler one year 72 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: with a club option. Whereas Harlan Garcia had four years 73 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: remaining under club control, he Hada had at least six 74 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: years remaining under club control. Harlan just turned twenty seven 75 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: years old, ki Hada coming off his age twenty four 76 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: season and age twenty three season. Kihada is now twenty 77 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: four years old. So the Marlins favoring some veteran players 78 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: and it's we've been encouraging the team, of course, to 79 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: get better in twenty twenty, and they had to give 80 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: Kinseler a guaranteed deal as expected, his three point twenty 81 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: five million dollar guarantee for twenty twenty, and the Matt 82 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Joyce deal was also a guaranteed deal, kind of filling 83 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: the role of the newly retired Curtis Granderson, who just 84 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: announced his retirement last week. Joyce is going to be 85 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: starting a couple times a week in the corner outfield 86 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: spots and very frequently pinch hitting. But they had to 87 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: take an extra step with him. He was coming off 88 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: a very strong year with the Braves, and even though 89 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: he's now thirty five years old, they to win the 90 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: bidding for him to actually prevent him from going back 91 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: to the Braves. Joyce has said that he was interested 92 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: in returning to Atlanta. They had to give him a 93 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: guaranteed major league deal coming into camp, and he's guaranteed 94 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: one point five million dollars and max is out at 95 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: one point seventy five million, which is right on the 96 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: nose what the Marlins paid for Granderson last year. And Granderson, frankly, 97 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: just was a little washed up at that point and 98 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: wasn't productive with Joyce. Even though he's still on in age, 99 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: he is the numbers. As we wrote up on the website, 100 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: we had an article from Juan Paiez about some interesting 101 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: stats for Joyce. As long as you put him in 102 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: a platoon situation and he's facing right handed pitching, he's 103 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: going to be productive. And as long as Marlins stick 104 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: with that, and he seems to be okay with accepting 105 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: that role, he's going to be productive and he's going 106 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: to help their offense, especially in high leverage situations. Again, 107 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: both these signings had been anticipated for about a full week. 108 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: Had been kind of awkward because they needed to make 109 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: that announcement prior to FanFest coming up on Saturday, and 110 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: now they finally did. The big surprise is that Harlan 111 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: was one of the ones dfa'd because he is coming 112 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: off a great season, his best major league season. You'll 113 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: remember Harlan emerging in twenty seventeen at a time when 114 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: the Marlins farm system was so dry. He was actually 115 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: a starting pitching prospect, but they called him up as 116 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: a reliever to fill a need in the bullpen in 117 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and he was great for most of that year, 118 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: struggled at the very end of it when the team 119 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: had basically been eliminated anyway from sneaking into the wild card. 120 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: And he's had a really interesting ride the last few 121 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: years because after that year in the bullpen, when the 122 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: rebuilds got underway entering twenty eighteen, the team gave him 123 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity to start. Because they had been well under 124 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: previous ownership and development, they had been preparing him to 125 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: be a star for most of his career. Entering twenty eighteen, 126 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: when the rotation was wide open, they gave him a 127 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: shot to earn a job in spring training. He just 128 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: missed out, but still made the roster as a reliever, 129 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: and he took the world by storm very briefly for 130 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: about one month span. He moved into the rotation and 131 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: he was unhittable. He hit his first career start in 132 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: April of twenty eighteen, six innings pitched zero hits, allowed 133 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: the only Marlins pitcher in history to do something like 134 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: that in their very first start, and on the short 135 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: list of any players to do that. 136 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: This one popped up left side will stay in play, 137 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: and this by a long shot by the way, that's 138 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: Rojas to put that one away for the third out 139 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: of the sixth inning. That's six hittings without allowing a 140 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: hit or Harlan Garcia. 141 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: He followed that up with another scoreless outing, allowing only 142 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: one hit against the Yankees, and that's when he really 143 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: jumped on people's radar the Yankees in a year where 144 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: the Yankees were one of the best teams in baseball. 145 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: Another quality start after that against the Dodgers. Another quality 146 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: start after that against the Phillies. I'm looking at the 147 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: stats just to relive how insane that was. The key 148 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: was that he's keeping the ball in the ballpark. He 149 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: was keeping the ball on the grounds, wasn't really missing bats, 150 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: But they thought they really had something early on in 151 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and he regressed pretty big time right after that. 152 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: He was hit so hard in May, and then it 153 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: was right after his June first outing that he had 154 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: to get demoted to Triple A for a couple months. 155 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: And it was a really inconsistent year, to say the least. 156 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, they gave him a couple more opportunities 157 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: to earn him his way back as a starter on 158 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: Triple A, but he continued to struggle and so pretty 159 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: much since late twenty eighteen to the present, they settle 160 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: on him as a reliever, but he did really well 161 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: in that role in twenty nineteen. I mean, the first 162 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: place you start when you look at pitchers is probably 163 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: the era, a three point two era, which is the 164 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: lowest out of anybody that had consistent relief work for 165 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: the Marlins last year. But that's probably not the most 166 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: important place you want to look if you're evaluating a reliever. 167 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: You want to see someone that keeps the ball in 168 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: the ballpark, and that's what Harlan did. Only four home 169 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: runs allowed in twenty nineteen in fifty and two thirds 170 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: innings pitched. And you want to look at how he 171 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: does when he inherits runners, because that is not reflected 172 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: in your ra but that goes a long way to 173 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: determining whether that reliever was effective and whether the team 174 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: ultimately wins in those high leverage situations that the reliever 175 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: enters in. And he was awesome at stranding base runners. 176 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: He made it, i believe, more than halfway through the 177 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: year before he allowed a single inherited runner to score. 178 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: And I guess some reflection of his twenty seventeen season. 179 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: He did struggle a little bit at the very end, 180 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: but there weren't all really any warning signs about the 181 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: quality of his stuff the whole year. He didn't allow 182 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: a single unearned run as well, so there's no blame 183 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: to be put on his defense either about him being 184 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: worse than some of the numbers would indicate. He was 185 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: a legitimately above average relief pitcher on a team that 186 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: at that end of the year, after they traded away 187 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: Sergio Romo and Nick Anderson, there was pretty much nobody else. 188 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: Harlan was the best reliever definitively on the team over 189 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: the final couple months of the year, and he was 190 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: affordable moving forward, you thought. He never builds around relievers, 191 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: especially ones like Harlan who don't really miss bats. I 192 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: mean thirty nine strikeouts over two hundred batter's face, below 193 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: average strikeout rate and an average fastball velocity, breaking ball 194 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: that gets a lot of soft contact but doesn't really 195 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: miss bats. He just seems like a very nice role 196 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: player to have, especially because in twenty twenty he's still 197 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: not arbitration eligible yet they would have had him under 198 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: control for this coming season at barely over the league minimum, 199 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: and if you're a reliever and you're not working in 200 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: safe situations. You know, despite Harlan's success these past few years, 201 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: he's never really been put in a closer's role. He's 202 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: always been setting up those relievers are very affordable through 203 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: arbitration as well. So this is a guy that even 204 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, they'd be cheaper 205 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: than someone like Brandon Kinseler would be, not just a 206 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: drop in the bucket when you're building out a full, 207 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: complete pitching staff. And now he's dfaid just so that 208 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: people don't overreact too much. We're at a point in 209 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: baseball transactions where it's becoming increasingly common to dfa a 210 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: player that you're about to trade, even if you don't 211 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: have a specific trade lined up at that moment. I 212 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: guess a recent example would be the new Marlin Corey 213 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: Dickerson when he was with the Tampa Bay Rays. It 214 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: floored everybody coming off an All Star year when he 215 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: was dfaed, and it turned out that they were actually 216 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: making a trade for him just a few days later. 217 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: It used to be that the DFA was guys that 218 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: were essentially getting cut or on the very fringes of 219 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: the roster, and that's not necessarily the case anymore. 220 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: So. 221 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: One particular grievance that it was brought to my attention 222 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: by multiple people, is why Harlan Garcia instead of someone 223 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: like Adam Conley. You do the head to head comparison, 224 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: and Garcia was infinitely better than Conley was last year 225 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: and even over the past few seasons. Harland has more 226 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: relief experience, he's younger, he has more years of control. 227 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: Why would they choose Conley over Garcia? And the best 228 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: way for me to articulate it is that they're not 229 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: choosing anybody over Harlan. Harlan the way that the bullpen 230 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: currently is he was the best surviving reliever still intact 231 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: from the twenty nineteen team. But this is a year 232 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: where the Marlins are not contending. They are not contending. 233 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: This team has really interesting stealing If some of these 234 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: young players deliver, take steps forward, some of these top 235 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: prospects immediately contribute. But there's no scenario where this team 236 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: is contending where they're spending at the trade deadline to 237 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: continue adding. It's still one more year where their focus 238 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: is on the long term. And if you're building a 239 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: team for the long term, with precious few exceptions, you 240 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: don't make relievers part of that long term vision. They 241 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: gave Harlan that shot to be a starter, and they 242 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: came away realizing that his limitations would prevent him from 243 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: succeeding in that role. He was fine as a reliever 244 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: this past year, but not somebody that you make a 245 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: priority moving forward because that position is just really volatile. 246 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: It's hard to be consistently good reliever. Only it's such 247 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: a small sample size year in and year out that 248 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: it's unpredictable. And sometimes when you have a player coming 249 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: off a good year as a reliever, you need to 250 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: make decisions about realistically where he's going to be moving forward. 251 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: The Marlins have made a clear decision here that they 252 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: think they're selling high on Harlan Garcia. They think this 253 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: season he's coming off is as good as he'll ever be, 254 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: that if they hold on to him any longer, that 255 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: value will drop, and in return, they're looking to get 256 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: more young talent in return, and now specifically it will have 257 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: to be players that don't require any space on the 258 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: forty man roster. I mean, that's really the impetus for 259 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: this decision. In the first place, they wouldn't. They weren't 260 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: necessarily needing to sell Harlan Garcia right now. But with 261 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: that decision that the forty man is already crowded, that 262 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: they like some of the non roster invitees coming to 263 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: spring training, and they foresee having clear additional spots between 264 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: now and the start of the twenty twenty season, that 265 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: now was as good time as any to sell high 266 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: on a player that was developed his entire career in 267 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: the Marlins organization. For other guys like Adam Conley, there's 268 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: really not that many others left in this system. Ryan's Stanik. 269 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,359 Speaker 1: They wanted to give these players an opportunity to rebuild 270 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: their value before putting them on the trade market. Again, 271 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: it's not choosing one or the other, and it's not 272 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: with a focus on winning as many games as possible 273 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. They are looking to improve in twenty 274 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: twenty from where they were last year, and they've spent 275 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: the money to do that, Between Kinseler and Joyce and 276 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: Dickerson and VR and Aguilar and Servelli and holding on 277 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: to some of the other guys that they decided not 278 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: to trade, giving Jose Urena a chance to find comfort 279 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: in the bullpen as well. They're gonna be a much 280 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: improved team next year. They're just not gonna obsess over 281 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: winning every single game at the expense of their long 282 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: term future. So now we wait on Harlan Garcias seven 283 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: days by the time you're listening to this, six days, 284 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: maybe even less than six days for them to settle 285 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: his situation and find a partner. He obviously will not 286 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: be at FanFest anymore. Kinseler, will, Matt Joyce, will a 287 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: whole forty man roster, will thirteen. Well, let's say there's 288 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: some overlap between the forty man roster and captain's camp. 289 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: But some of these young prospects selected for Captain's camp, 290 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: they'll be at FanFest. It'll be a good time. It'll 291 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: be unfortunate that Harlan is not there. There will be 292 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: multiple teams interested in him. Just in the mediate aftermath. 293 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: Any number of teams could use Harlan. He'd be one 294 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: of their top eight relievers. And if you're a team 295 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: that is trying specifically to contend in twenty twenty, those 296 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: seems especially will show interest considering how affordable he is, 297 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: and even though he is due for some regression. I mean, 298 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: that's that's part of the truth is that he's been 299 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: pretty consistent in his career and managing the quality of contact, 300 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: inducing a lot of soft contact, avoiding the barrel of 301 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: the bat, and that stuff is seems to be repeatable 302 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: year after year, where in terms of like batting average 303 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: on balls and play, he's consistently below three hundred every 304 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: single year that he's worked as a reliever, even dating 305 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: back to the minor leagues. He has a repeatable skill 306 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: in terms of doing that. However, there was some luck 307 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: involved in this past year, as I'd mentioned the well 308 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: below average strikeout rate. One key indicator I like to 309 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: use from statcast is the discrepancy between a pitcher's weighted 310 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: on base average and they're expected weighted on bass average, 311 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: and he's had a gap in that way his whole career, 312 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: but it is more pronounced than ever last year allowing 313 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: a two point fifty nine weighted on base average where 314 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: the league average is like three seventeen. So he was 315 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: great in terms of actual results that he allowed, but 316 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: if you look at the expected weighted on base based 317 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: on the quality of contact that he allowed, and how 318 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: much contact he allowed. It was a three to eight 319 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: expected weighted on base average, which is much closer to 320 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: being ordinary being Lee average, And that gap will probably 321 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: all be there pretty much throughout his entire career. As 322 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: long as he continues like this with this three pitch 323 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: mix and his stuff doesn't deteriorate, he'll continue to overachieve 324 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: in that sense between those two numbers. But that gap 325 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: last year of nearly fifty points doesn't seem sustainable to 326 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: that degree. That's just one of the many indicators I 327 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: guess that the Marlins have internally where they think that 328 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: he's due to come down from this level of performance 329 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: moving forward. The cautionary tale on this would be Nick Whitgren. 330 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Harlan is about the same age, about the same level 331 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: of production that Wickran had coming off his twenty eighteen season, 332 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: and I was very much against them getting rid of 333 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: Wickren at that time, considering the state of the bullpen 334 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: that they had in and that was a moment in 335 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: the organization where all these pitching prospects were still far 336 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: enough away that they just there was not a lot 337 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: of depth. There was not a lot of major league 338 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: ready depth in the Marlins bullpen, and Wickgrann was someone 339 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: who I didn't think was expendable and who I didn't 340 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: think had yet shown his full potential. They weren't selling 341 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: high on Wickrean, and they ultimately get back at a 342 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: no name triple A reliever. But Wigran goes on to 343 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: have an even better year with the Cleveland Indians last year. 344 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: Not quite an all star level, but not that far off. 345 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: He saw a nice jump in his strikeout raid and 346 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: the overall he pitched very well. He would have been 347 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: he had an even better year than Harlan had over 348 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: there in Cleveland, and if the Marlins had just held 349 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: on to him to the trade deadline. But getting back 350 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: to the topic at hands, this move is a little 351 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: bit more justifiable because of those reinforcements that are imminent 352 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: coming from the minor leagues. There are some of these 353 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: top prospects that will be pitching in the major leagues 354 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: for the Marlins this year and who reasonably could be 355 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: upgrades over their existing options, whether it's George Guzman in 356 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: the Penn or Alex Vessia, Dylan Lee, Tyler Stevens. Some 357 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: of these non roster invitees, Pat Van Ditti, Ryan Cook, 358 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: I mean all these guys are intriguing for a variety 359 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: of reasons, and for the most part, these are guys 360 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: that can throw strikes, which is the big emphasis that 361 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: the Marlins have had this offseason in remaking their bullpen. 362 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: The timing of the decision is still surprising, but the 363 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: longer I have to marinate on it, the easier it 364 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: is to understand the more motivations behind it. The big 365 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: question is going to be what they get in return. 366 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: They've done an interesting job this offseason with a few 367 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: different relievers of flipping them for rookie ball players from 368 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: other organizations. They also did the same thing with Austin 369 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: Dean that was the biggest. The biggest prospect that they 370 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: acquired in these type of deals was deal Wheel Burgos 371 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: from the Cardinals in exchange for Austin Dean, and he's 372 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: immediately one of their top thirty prospects. That should probably 373 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: be the bar for Harlan is getting a guy in 374 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: return that you can realistically project having a major league role. 375 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: It's going to have to be a non forty man 376 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: roster player, so someone that is presumably far away from 377 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: the major leagues, and that makes it a little unpredictable. 378 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: And that's why teams don't always choose this kind of 379 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: timing to make these decisions, because if you're prioritizing guys 380 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: that are not on the forty man roster and you 381 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: still have this big crunch, then yeah, you're picking from 382 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: a crop of players that are still pretty raw and 383 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: still a little bit unpredictable. But good luck to Harlan. 384 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: Pitched extremely well this winter in the Dominican Republic Dominican 385 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: Winter League. He was really excited for this upcoming season. 386 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: Unfortunate timing for him personally in that he was just 387 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: celebrating his eighth wedding anniversary on Monday, so we'll have 388 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: to find out where he goes. But someone who's very 389 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: easy to root for. Sending my best wishes to l 390 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: Elafonse at the same time. The other reliever getting dfaed 391 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: in this process jose Kihada, much younger than Harlan, much 392 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: shorter track record in the majors, but even nastier stuff 393 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: as a rookie last year. Struggled so much to throw strikes, 394 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: but he did have a strikeout rate over thirty percent. 395 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: Prior to his debut. Very briefly, he was ranked at 396 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: the very bottom of Marlin's top thirty prospects list, especially 397 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: the MLB Pipeline, liked his potential of being a shutdown 398 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: reliever if he was able to get his release point 399 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: more in sync put up a field er independent pitching 400 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: of nearly eight last year. There's no way to slice 401 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: it that he was terrible when he got his opportunities 402 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: in the majors last year, but still very young, and 403 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: still when you're left handed and you throw as hard 404 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: as he does. I saw some fastballs last year ninety seven. 405 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: I think he may have even touched ninety eight at 406 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: times last season. And you have a decent breaking ball 407 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: to go along with it, that's gonna draw some attention. 408 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: Not necessarily draw some interest, but it's gonna draw some 409 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: attention from other teams at this stage of the offseason, 410 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: where most other forty man rosters are full. It's not 411 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: necessarily a slam dunk that Kihada is gonna get claimed 412 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: by another team. Then again, I was a little surprised 413 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: that Tyrone Guerrero was claimed by another team. I've been 414 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: a little surprised across the board of these relievers have 415 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: been valued this offseason. Guys that have been rejected by 416 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: the Marlins and yet still found homes other places. So 417 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: if I was to lean one way or the other, 418 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: I'd say maybe fifty five sixty percent chance that he 419 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: gets claimed on waivers by another team, considering he does 420 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: have two more minor league options remaining. That is a 421 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: big nugget. So as long as the team can get 422 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: him most of the way through spring training without blocking 423 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: anybody else on the rosters, and they can simply option 424 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: him to triple A to work out the kinks in 425 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: his delivery. So his DFA is one that is more 426 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: obvious considering the struggle that he had to throw strikes. 427 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: How much of an emphasis that has been for the 428 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: Marlins this offseason in turning over their full bullpen is 429 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: they want to throw guys that can repeat their delivery 430 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: and get ahead in counts. It can be difficult to 431 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: teach that kind of thing, and even for someone as 432 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: young as Kia, They're going to roll the dice hope 433 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: that he makes it through waivers and then they'd be 434 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: able to simply outright him to the miners and off 435 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: of their main roster. What's interesting is that Kihata, just 436 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: like Carlan Garcia, he had been in the organization for 437 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: a long time. Harlan was here ever since the summer 438 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: of twenty ten. Kihada had been here since twenty thirteen, 439 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: signed originally out of Venezuela. And to close out this 440 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: episode a little bit shorter than our typical fish Bites episode, 441 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to take inventory of who's left who has 442 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: survived the ownership transition that took place in the fall 443 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen. Last month, on the podcast an episode 444 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: of Earning Their Stripes, I spoke with left hander Braxton Garrett, 445 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: the former first round draft pick, and he joked that 446 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: the players that are still here are aware of all 447 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: the turnover that has taken place in what's been about 448 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: two and a half years since Derek Cheater, Bruce Sherman 449 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: and their group took charge of the ownership and reimagined 450 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: the front office as well and totally changed the priorities 451 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: for team building, and that's led to a lot of movement. 452 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: Obviously the big blockbuster trades from the twenty seventeen to 453 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen offseason, but even on the fringes you've seen 454 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: former guys, guys get released who had previously been considered 455 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: notable prospects, a lot of these trades of a lower profile, 456 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: and others just designating for assignment players that used to 457 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: be forecasted as role players that have now been made 458 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: expendable by the superior talent coming up through the farm system, 459 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: different drafting priorities and philosophies that have so far, the 460 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: very early returns of these draft classes under the new 461 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: group have been very promising for that reason, just by 462 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: the simple passage of time that is the reality in 463 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: baseball these days, where it's very rare for anybody to 464 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: spend their whole career with the single organization. 465 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: But the. 466 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: Staggering rate of this turnover is still a little bit alarming. 467 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: And consider that there are about two hundred players under 468 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: contract with a major league organization at any given time 469 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: throughout all levels of the majors and the farm system, 470 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: and that we're down to just a few dozen, a 471 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: few dozen players that we're here in the summer of 472 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and are still here with the Marlins as 473 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: we prepare to enter twenty twenty spring training next week. 474 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: Thanks very much to Roster Resource on fangrafts, they have 475 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: a great page that allows you to keep track of 476 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: all these biographical details about these players in particular column, 477 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 1: making sure you see with all the forty man roster players, 478 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: with all the non roster top prospects at every single position. 479 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: It gives you a quick snapshot of when they were 480 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: acquired and how they were acquired by the organization and 481 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 1: the official announce official press conference. The introductory presser that 482 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: Jeter and Sherman did with the Marlins was a couple 483 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: days after the twenty seventeen regular season, So that's going 484 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: to be our cutoff point in terms of distinguishing who 485 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: was inherited from the old regime and who has been 486 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: acquired since then. And it's really a slim group that 487 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: are surviving from the previous organization. Now that Harlan Garcia 488 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: and hose Kihada are on their way out the door, 489 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: we look at who is still here for the time being. 490 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Harlan was the second longest tenured player in the entire 491 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: organization nine and a half years, the only one who 492 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: has n't beat in that category and who's still here 493 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: for now, although not someone that you can really expect 494 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: them to build arounds much longer. Is Jose Urina signed 495 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: out of the Dominican Republic in August of two thousand 496 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: and eight, so he was sixteen years old at that time. 497 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: He has spent close to half of his life as 498 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: a professional pitcher in the Marlins organization, still with a 499 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: couple of years remaining under team control. The public comments 500 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: from Michael Hill have suggested that he is being viewed 501 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: as a reliever for this team, that they like their young, 502 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: controllable starters even more than him, and he's going to 503 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: try to build on what happened last September when he 504 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: saw a nice spike in his velocity, but overall he 505 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: struggled in that relief role. So he's going to get 506 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: an opportunity to earn a high leverage role entering this year, 507 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: but remains very much on the trade block as well 508 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: if there are other teams that view him as a starter. 509 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: More likely contributors to the twenty twenty Marlins Adam Connolly. 510 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: He was drafted way back in twenty eleven. Do I 511 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: have that right? Yes, the second round pick in twenty eleven, 512 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: and of course the Marlins thought for a long time 513 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: that they were getting a hard throwing, left handed starter 514 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: out of him, over to the point where it took 515 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: going back to the bullpen for his velocity to come back, 516 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: and he had a terrible twenty nineteen season, But as 517 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: mentioned before, the Marlins see potential in him and they 518 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: don't want to sell low on him. He'll have an 519 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to re establish himself, re establish I guess at 520 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: least reclaim his twenty eighteen form when he was a 521 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: solid late ending option. Right Hander Drew Steckenrider, drafted back 522 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, has had some really high points during 523 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen season when and he even had some 524 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: brief closing experience for this team, But twenty nineteen went 525 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: off the rails pretty quickly, suffered an elbow injury. Finished 526 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: the year with that elbow injury, avoided surgery, but still 527 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: a big question mark heading into his age twenty nine season. 528 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: Brian Anderson, of course, drafted and developed by the Marlins 529 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: organizations twenty fourteen. He'll be splitting time this year between 530 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: right field and third base. He'll be batting in the 531 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: middle of the order, coming off a pair of good 532 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: seasons at the major league level, looking for that true 533 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: breakout here in twenty and twenty, hopefully with more over 534 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: the fence power could be a nice beneficiary of the 535 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: fences coming in in center field and in right center. 536 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: Very excited for his upcoming season. Miguel Rojas was traded 537 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: for as part of that de Gordon trade more than 538 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: five years ago, so that certainly dates back to before 539 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: the ownership change. Not thought of much initially as a 540 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: bitty role player, fringy infielder, and that perception has changed. 541 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: He has worked himself into a borderline everyday player, so 542 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: I'll be curious to see his role this year. Spent 543 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: last year as more or less the regular shortstop, but 544 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: now with a nice supporting cast around him, he may 545 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: drift back more into that utility role as a year 546 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: goes on. Under contra for this year and for next year, 547 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: the hard and sold the team the honorary captain, if 548 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: you will. A couple more Major leaguers that had their 549 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: roots in this organization before the new ownership arrived. Jeff Brigham, 550 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: who I am very high on, and I'm gonna continue 551 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: reminding you about Brigham because his stuff is nasty. Moved 552 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: to the bullpen last year so that he could focus 553 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: on his fastball slider. Combo threw those pitches each about 554 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time to keep opponents off balance, 555 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: and he piled up a lot of whiffs last year. 556 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: He also issued too many walks in the overall results 557 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: are very pedestrian, but I believe very much in his 558 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: potential if kept in this relief role. He'll be entering 559 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: his age twenty eight season. And he was initially acquired 560 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: in a trade from the Dodgers organization Pablo Lopez as well, 561 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: Pablo Lopez. Just a few months before the ownership change, 562 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: he was one of the pieces in the David Phelps trade, 563 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: and he was even the headliner in that trade either. 564 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: Just like Brigham, I'm very high on Papula Lopez. He 565 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: stays healthy, I believe he is gonna be one of 566 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: the better starters on this team, if not the best 567 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: starter on this team. Acquired in July of twenty seventeen, 568 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 1: and he's just entering his age twenty four season, he's 569 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: got the opportunity to keep getting better. We have a 570 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: video going up almost immediately after this recording of his 571 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: pitch arsenal as part of our series that we've been 572 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: putting up on YouTube. Is for Seamer Sinker curveball change up. 573 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: It's a nice combination and I believe very much in 574 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: his stuff and in his mentality on the mounds. Then 575 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: throughout the farm system, there are still some guys left 576 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: over from the old regime, just kind of going in 577 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: order of the ones who have been here the longest. 578 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: Stone Garrett outfielder spent this past year with Double A Jacksonville. 579 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: He was arguably the best overall player in games, at 580 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: least for Jacksonville last year, at least their best position player, 581 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: and never really viewed, at least in recent years as 582 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: one of their top prospects. He was very briefly when 583 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: the farm system was at its nator and there wasn't 584 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: all that much surrounding talent around him. But he hit 585 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: a nice bounce back season last year to prominence, where 586 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: he showed great potential defensively, especially some of the best 587 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: catches that you'll ever see at the wall playing in 588 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: the corner outfield spots. Jordan Holloway was drafted way back 589 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. He's on the forty man roster. I 590 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: see him being very impactful reliever further down the road, 591 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: but he's had some issues throwing strikes even before and 592 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: after Tommy John surgery. We'll see what happens there somehow. 593 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: Tyler Klek is still in the organization. He's the former 594 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: first round draft pick. This coming year, the Marlins are 595 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 1: selecting third overall in the drafts Colek was a number 596 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: two overall pick. This will be their big opportunity since 597 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: Koleik six years ago to get a franchise cornerstone in 598 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: the draft. He has been the furthest thing from a 599 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: franchise cornerstone, just hasn't had any success pitching in games 600 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: in his pro career. He was drafted out of high school, 601 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: so he's still relatively young, still twenty four years old, 602 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: but his body has been wrecked by injury. Most recently, 603 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: the issue was that thoracic outlet syndrome. I think even 604 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: before that he had had elbow issues as well. He 605 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: hasn't fully regained that velocity that he had coming out 606 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: of high school when he had triple digit heat last year, 607 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: sitting more in the high eighties and low nineties. This 608 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: is probably going to be his last year in the organization. 609 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: I think he will be eligible for minor league free 610 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: agency after the year, and I can't imagine the Marlins 611 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 1: would make it any priority to hold on to him, 612 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 1: he hasn't pitched anything resembling a full season in any role. 613 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera, who is one of the consensus five best 614 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: prospects in the entire Marlins organization right now coming off 615 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: a great breakout season in twenty nineteen, always had great 616 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: fastball velocity ever since he was signed as an amateur, 617 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: So you got to credit the old regime a little 618 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: bit for paying about one hundred thousand dollars as a 619 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: signing bonus to get him. And he made some interesting 620 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: strides in twenty eighteen as a starter in Greensboro, but 621 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: he really took off last year with Jupiter and in Jacksonville. 622 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: Somewhat surprisingly, it's been because he is tempered down his 623 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: velocity a little bit to find more precise command, and 624 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: it's also because of the progress that he has made 625 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: with his secondary pitches, particularly his changeup, because his changeup 626 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: was a big question mark even entering last year, and 627 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: he reached a point where he's now getting more swings 628 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: and misses and ground balls off of that and his 629 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: command his control both took big steps forward last year. 630 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: That was reflected in the results, and that has people 631 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: thinking that he's going to be at the very least 632 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: a mid rotation starter for this Marlins team, perhaps by 633 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: the very end of this coming season, I think more 634 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: likely in twenty twenty one, we see him in the majors. 635 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: Gerar and Crnacione signed with the Marlins around that same 636 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: time in twenty fifteen, and he was even a lower 637 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: profile acquisition at the time, and he was completely off 638 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: the radar at this time a year ago, but a 639 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: big breakout season as a corner outfielder between Clinton and 640 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: Jupiter last year, and now definitively one of their better 641 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: overall offensive prospects. For me, the big sticking point is 642 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: whether that designated hitter comes to the National League. As 643 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: had been recently reported, it won't be here this year, 644 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: probably won't even be here next year, but the year 645 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: after that in twenty twenty two. I think that's important 646 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: for Gerarf because he does have some limitations as a 647 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: defensive outfielder, but this guy can really mash the ball. 648 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: He showed that throughout the twenty nineteen regular season. He 649 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: showed it in the Arizona Fall League. Really exciting guy. 650 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: Braxton Garrett, friend of the podcast, drafted in the first 651 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: round in twenty sixteen, coming off a great year in 652 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: Jupiter after fully recovering from Tommy John surgery. He is 653 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: all the fundamentals that you look for from a starting pitcher, 654 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: and now that he's healthy, he has a really high 655 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: ceiling once again and a lot of people believing that 656 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: he is a bright future ahead of him. Frankly, I 657 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked if long term, out of all the 658 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: great pitching prospects in the organization right now, I wouldn't 659 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: be shocked if he ends up having the best career, 660 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: even though he had that elbow injury fully recovered, still 661 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: only twenty two years old, with perhaps the best curveball 662 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: that anybody throws at any level of this organization, he 663 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: seems a really safe prospect moving forward. You'll be seeing 664 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: in the major leagues not too far from now former 665 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: draft picks as well. In twenty sixteen, Dylan Lee, who 666 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: has once again been invited to Major league spring training. 667 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: Especially with Harlan Garcia now moving out the door, it 668 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: leaves the Marlins very short on left handed pitchers of 669 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: any kind on their current roster. Lee has performed pretty 670 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 1: well in the high miners each of the last two years. 671 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: He will very likely be pitching in the major leagues 672 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: this season, It's again going to be a question about 673 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: finding a spot for him on the roster, but his 674 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: performance has been good. And the reason why you would 675 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: think that the Marlins are so comfortable clearing out talented 676 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: pitchers like Garcia and even more so someone like jose Kihata, 677 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: is because they believe they have internal options that are 678 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: better suited to jump in and contribute right away. So 679 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: Dylan Lee would be one of those candidates. Thomas Jones, 680 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: very athletic outfielder who quietly played very well at the 681 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: end of the twenty nineteen season in Clinton, a pivotal 682 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: year in his career upcoming when we expect him to 683 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 1: be at Hia Jupiter. Another reliever Chad Smith Colton Hawk 684 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: as well. Both those guys drafted under the old regime 685 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: and they've been in the middle of the minor league 686 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: system for a while now. We'll see if they take 687 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: a step forward here. In twenty twenty, Luis Pelasios, lefty 688 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: signed out of Venezuela, who to this point has only 689 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: been pitching at rookie levels, but has eye popping stats. 690 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: Impossible to get on base against him, impossible to hit 691 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: the ball out of the ballpark against him. It's been 692 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: basically impossible for anybody to score against Luis Pelasios in 693 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: the Marlins organization this year, but so far he's been 694 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: contained to the Dominican Summer League, to the Gulf Coast 695 00:41:53,160 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: League Lifetime one point one two eer. He's going to 696 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: be a fascinating player to follow this coming season as 697 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: he advances to higher levels of competition. Nineteen year old 698 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: left handed pitcher Luis Pelacio's make sure to keep an 699 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: eye on him. Trevor Rodgers top draft pick in twenty seventeen. 700 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: Remember that draft came before the ownership transition, and he 701 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: performed great last year with Jupiter and with Jacksonville. Long, lean, 702 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: left handed pitcher that has a fastball that he works off. 703 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: His fastball and has a lot of success spotting it 704 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: on either side of the plate and his delivery his 705 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: slurvey breaking ball. He's really intriguing moving forward. He could 706 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: be very quick to the big leagues. Maybe not the 707 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: same high ceiling as some of these other pitching prospects, 708 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: but he's he gives you a very unusual look and 709 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: he's coming off great success in a full season. Brian 710 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: Miller was drafted right after him in twenty seventeen. We 711 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: had an expanded article ready up on him as part 712 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: of our season preview on Fish Stripes. Coming off a 713 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: season where he contributed consistently for Double A Jacksonville, but 714 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: not really wowing you at this moment, his role moving 715 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 1: forward is a little murky considering all the other outfield 716 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: depth that the Marlins have in their system. He'll simply 717 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: need a hit more. It's as simple as that, making 718 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: more solid contact than he did this past season. Shortstop 719 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: Demetrius Simms, coming off an interesting breakout year when the 720 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: Marlins had some injuries in their middle infield last season. 721 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,479 Speaker 1: He hit for a decent amount of power, showed great 722 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: on bass skills, and a little bit older relative to 723 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: his level of competition. But Demitrius Simms was part of 724 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: that draft glass under the old ownership. Brady Puckett, a tall, 725 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: right handed pitcher who's going to be coming off of 726 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: Tommy John surgery this coming year, but performed very well 727 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: before going down with that injury, and reliever Vincenzo Aello 728 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: also part of that twenty seventeen draft class. He was 729 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,439 Speaker 1: part of the contingent that went to the Arizona Fall 730 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: League this past year, and Sti'll be not invited at 731 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: this moment to major league spring training, but he will 732 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: presumably be one of the first guys up when an 733 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 1: opportunity presents itself during the season because he's had some 734 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: interesting success down the stretch with a Jacksonville in twenty nineteen. 735 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: That about covers it. I mean, we were able to 736 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: get through all those names with some descriptions in just 737 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: the one segment. It's been a total revamp of this 738 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: entire organization, the skill sets that this new leadership values, 739 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: and obviously the window of contention finding players that are 740 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: still going to be under control, particularly for twenty twenty 741 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: one and beyond, when this organization is ready to take 742 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: that big leap forward at the major league level. Repeating 743 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: my announcement from the top of the show, we have 744 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: Fish Stripes Night coming up Thursday, February twenty seventh at 745 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: Roger Dean Stadium in Jupiter. Full details on the Fish 746 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 1: Stripes homepage, fish Stripes dot com. Payments completed to fish 747 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: Stripes on VENMO. We hope to see you there. Coming 748 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: up on the fish Stripes podcast, We're gonna be getting 749 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: back into the swing of things with Earning Their Stripes 750 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: hosted by Ian Smith, Ethan Bodowski, Spencer Morris, and with 751 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: yours truly making appearances from time to time that show 752 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: dedicades specifically to minor league coverage. Now that we have 753 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: a full look at what this organization is gonna be 754 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 1: heading into the twenty twenty season with the Harlan Garcia 755 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: trade still pending, we're gonna analyze what to look forward 756 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: to on the minor league side here in twenty So 757 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: much talent at so many positions. It'll be a lot 758 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: of fun this coming weekend fan fest at Marlins Park 759 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: to meet all the new guys and just have a 760 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: great time with your fellow Marlins fans. We will have 761 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: staff members in attendance and we'll be talking a lot 762 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 1: about that on the next Fish Bites episode coming up. 763 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: Thanks as always for your support. Subscribe if you don't already, 764 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: rate and review if you use Apple Podcasts. This is 765 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: Eli Sussman. Go Phish