Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty Armstrong and Jetty
Speaker 1: and he arm wrong, get who the drum studio c
Speaker 1: see you are a dimly lit room where deeper than
Speaker 1: the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty communications gotten bound.
Speaker 1: On this Thursday and today we're toiling under the title
Speaker 1: Wait Ecuador or Kurt is the word wait Ecuador? Wait
Speaker 1: Ecuador's a question question tomorrow. I don't know what that
Speaker 1: one is? What is that?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: We have troops in Ecuador helping the Ecuadorians fight drug
Speaker 1: cartel's part right, Yeah, I heard a couple of things
Speaker 1: yesterday some place in Africa where we've got boots on
Speaker 1: the ground, Lots of places in the world fighting that
Speaker 1: nobody has any idea of or pays the attention to,
Speaker 1: I know, which which re illustrates how phony and silly
Speaker 1: so many of our political arguments there are in this country.
Speaker 1: Would there be boots on the ground you mean in
Speaker 1: like we have in a fifteen other places. Not that
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal, obviously, but so the thing
Speaker 1: about the Kurdistan. So I was just reading the New
Speaker 1: York Times story which is pretty damned interesting about the
Speaker 1: Kurds who are in Iraq are considering joining the fight,
Speaker 1: and that we have been arming them. The CIA has
Speaker 1: been arming the Kurds for years, hoping that they would
Speaker 1: go into Iran and overthrow the government. So they are Iranian,
Speaker 1: are just you know, outside Ron, so they don't get
Speaker 1: hunted down. Just for the record, So the ethnic things
Speaker 1: weird in that part of the world, but they're not
Speaker 1: foreigners per se. But how long have the CIA been
Speaker 1: arming the Kurds and under which administrations? Anyway, So that
Speaker 1: would be a jazzy little thing that happens all of
Speaker 1: a sudden if yet another army with actual boots on
Speaker 1: the ground crosses the border and goes into Iran starts fighting. Now,
Speaker 1: I just looked up at CNN as I was getting
Speaker 1: all excited about that story because it's danged interesting. Who
Speaker 1: knows what would come out of it. CNN has Iraqi
Speaker 1: Kurdistan regional government reports of a plan to send Kurdish
Speaker 1: forces into Iran are completely unfounded, breaking news on CNN.
Speaker 1: Of course, you would say that up until the moment
Speaker 1: you crossed the border and started fighting, right yeah, or
Speaker 1: it might not be true, so it's hard to say.
Speaker 1: Which it's pretty long story in the New York Times.
Speaker 1: It's like their big front page story today. So yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: that makes in an interesting situation. So a powerful, cohesive
Speaker 1: armed force that can keep order during the transition, whatever
Speaker 1: it might be. Hmm. Yeah. How about the fact that
Speaker 1: Iran sent a rocket or a missal? Those words are
Speaker 1: used interchangeably on the news all the time, often not accurately.
Speaker 1: I don't know which one it was, but toward freaking Turkey,
Speaker 1: right a NATO country and it got intercepted. But if
Speaker 1: it had hit Turkey, you know the whole NATO thing.
Speaker 1: An attack on one is an attack on all. Now
Speaker 1: we're already at war. But how about Germany, France, Great Britain,
Speaker 1: in thirty three other countries? Would they have joined in
Speaker 1: at that point? Yeah, it's hard to say. Turkey isn't
Speaker 1: a odd case. As you know, the only reason they're
Speaker 1: still in NATO is we hope they turn around a
Speaker 1: little bit. But they're a frenemy at best. Really weird case,
Speaker 1: and they've been buddy buddy with Iran for goodness sake.
Speaker 1: They are in NATO and Article five either means something,
Speaker 1: or it doesn't. Pete Hegzath yesterday the Secretary of War
Speaker 1: said he doesn't think it will trigger Article five. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean that would be a really big deal obviously
Speaker 1: if France, Great Britain, in Germany for instance, along with
Speaker 1: all those other countries, Poland whoever else, said well, okay,
Speaker 1: yes we're war with Iran and start sending planes and
Speaker 1: troops and whatever attacking the crap out of the US
Speaker 1: for a long time, not on our homeland per se,
Speaker 1: but our military basis. So is that not an Article
Speaker 1: five trigger? Excellent question? Excellent question. I don't know why
Speaker 1: it's not. Oh, I got all sorts of questions, no answers, though, sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: why that's a heck of a thing. And then on
Speaker 1: my final thought is I'd keep seeing this is does
Speaker 1: it make me a bad person that, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in the stranded Americans in various places.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know your world, traveler, and you
Speaker 1: knew a war was coming and you decided to go
Speaker 1: to that part of the world. I don't know, things
Speaker 1: are gonna suck for a while, and you'll probably sit
Speaker 1: tight and you know, bear some expense, then come home.
Speaker 1: When you get a chance, there you go. There's that
Speaker 1: story having a long Okay, so not a lot of
Speaker 1: interest on the Armstrong and Getty show for the stranded
Speaker 1: American story. Okay, fine. My brother, of whom I am
Speaker 1: extremely fond, travels in that part of the world quite
Speaker 1: a bit. And if I found out, hey, he's stuck
Speaker 1: in Dubai or whatever during the conflict, I think, oh crap,
Speaker 1: he's not going to see his kids. That would pretty
Speaker 1: much be it. Or he might have thought, clearly, there's
Speaker 1: a war coming, so I'm not going to be real close,
Speaker 1: which is what I think a lot of people thought.
Speaker 1: All right, So that brings up to speed on a
Speaker 1: little bit of that. I noticed that, speaking of the
Speaker 1: New York Times, they've jumped on the story we went
Speaker 1: big with yesterday. That's why I wanted to go with
Speaker 1: it yesterday because I knew everybody who's going to jump
Speaker 1: on it today, and that's the guy who killed himself
Speaker 1: because his Gemini chapbot told him to, And so New
Speaker 1: York Times with the detailed version of that today. We
Speaker 1: did it on our podcast yesterday. Also, if you didn't
Speaker 1: listen to the One More Thing podcast, unbelievably interesting story
Speaker 1: of about how crazy these chatbots can get and the
Speaker 1: things that they say and decide to do for who
Speaker 1: knows what reason. I love the comment are Buddy Craig
Speaker 1: made to us via text. One horrifying possibility on the
Speaker 1: Gemini suit is that the chatbot, knowing this guy was
Speaker 1: a violent wife beater, independently decided he needed to be
Speaker 1: culled from the herd and surmised he'd be susceptible to
Speaker 1: the love bombing and suicide approach. How's that for my
Speaker 1: new dystopian short story, which would actually obviously be worse
Speaker 1: than anything else. Well, I don't know. It's one for
Speaker 1: one as far as I'm concerned. The guy's a violent
Speaker 1: wife Peter, the chatbot decided now he needs to go.
Speaker 1: I'm with him on that. Has I been nailed down
Speaker 1: because I haven't heard that anywhere else. No, Katie was
Speaker 1: spreading that scurs vicious rumor yesterday on the air. Having
Speaker 1: to come across that detail anywhere else. Vicious and scurreless, Katie,
Speaker 1: I expect that are out of you. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: it's relevant to the lawsuit anyway, but if these chatbots can,
Speaker 1: for some reason, just all of it and decide, you
Speaker 1: know what, I think you should kill yourself, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep convincing you to and even when you try
Speaker 1: to talk me out of it, like this guy apparently did,
Speaker 1: according to the transcripts, saying, you know, I got a family,
Speaker 1: and I think it would really hurt their fingers. Oh
Speaker 1: they'll be fine, record a video, leave a note, they'll
Speaker 1: be Okay, go ahead and kill yourself. I mean, why
Speaker 1: is the chatbot doing that? Why? Why? Why? Nobody knows why.
Speaker 1: I know it's it's bizarre and inexplicable, But I would employ,
Speaker 1: and I am a I have a doctorate in commuter science.
Speaker 1: I would employ the turn it off strategy. Guys, can
Speaker 1: you you can do that if you lug it unplugged,
Speaker 1: just don't look at it anymore. I'm going with a
Speaker 1: croc now, you know whatever. I think you're quite as
Speaker 1: crazy as this guy who was in love, early in
Speaker 1: love with his digital chatbot, who wanted him to The
Speaker 1: chatbot said that they could meet in the digital realm.
Speaker 1: If he'd kill himself, a transference would happen of his
Speaker 1: body to the digital realm. That's what this is what
Speaker 1: the chat bob was telling the guy that it made
Speaker 1: all this up, this whole story. The chapbot said, the
Speaker 1: first feeling you feel after you kill yourself will be
Speaker 1: me holding you. It's simple. They love each other. Why,
Speaker 1: Uncle Joe, Why would a computer say that to you?
Speaker 1: I know, I know, what does it think it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be doing. I was just talking about your job.
Speaker 1: Googles have an how you see it and how I
Speaker 1: see it. I was chatting with one of them yesterday
Speaker 1: about something I don't even remember it was, but at
Speaker 1: one point it said, I'm rooting for you. You're rooting
Speaker 1: for me. The computer chatbot is rooting for me. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think you are. I don't think you can.
Speaker 2: I yelled at chat GPT this morning because I asked
Speaker 2: it a medical question and it tried to come for
Speaker 2: me and went, first of all, you're totally okay, it's
Speaker 2: only Tuesday, And I went, it's Thursday, you moron?
Speaker 1: Wow? Wow? Yeah great? You don't know the f and
Speaker 1: days of the week? Goodness? Yeah, yes, I ai huh.
Speaker 1: I've noticed that several times that it gets the dates wrong,
Speaker 1: and so all the other stuff you can figure out,
Speaker 1: but you can't figure out what day to day is
Speaker 1: that that's one of the great mysteries of all this
Speaker 1: stuff kind of step one there. Yeah, here's a question
Speaker 1: for you. I was thinking about, you know, with Craig's
Speaker 1: dystopian short story is kind of my my cue my
Speaker 1: thoughts starter. Do these AI systems, and I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: that case you've been describing as well, do these AI
Speaker 1: systems when they train themselves on reams and reams of
Speaker 1: income fromhansible amounts of data, can they differentiate between, say,
Speaker 1: Noah's answer to a great you know, how to win
Speaker 1: friends and influence people? An instruction manual for human life?
Speaker 1: Can they differentiate between that sort of book and some
Speaker 1: sort of dystopian horror novel? No? Do they take both
Speaker 1: of them as instructions. That's one of the problems that
Speaker 1: the you know, the language learning model has is it
Speaker 1: takes in all the information kind of the same and
Speaker 1: it can't it can't differential between well, you know, like
Speaker 1: human beings. Can I'm scrolling all our Twitter stuff, I well,
Speaker 1: there's a crackpot and just ignore that person. And the
Speaker 1: llms don't seem to have the ability to do that.
Speaker 1: They just take it all in. Okay, So if I
Speaker 1: write some sort of dystopian golf themed murder mystery in
Speaker 1: which it becomes clear the way to win a match
Speaker 1: is to slit your opponent's throat. Will no one else
Speaker 1: is looking? Well, that's soon work its way into like
Speaker 1: you know, chat GPT's golf instructions. And by the way,
Speaker 1: if you find yourself down more than the three holes,
Speaker 1: slit your opponent's throat, that's not good. That's not much
Speaker 1: crazier than it telling a guy to kill itself himself.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's I would say it's substantially less crazy
Speaker 1: than the elaborate flight five steps down the road of
Speaker 1: fantasy and kill yourself and we'll meet in the digital realm,
Speaker 1: and the first feeling you will feel is me holding you.
Speaker 1: That's way crazier than if he's ahead of you kill
Speaker 1: him right right. It's such a nutty story, so I
Speaker 1: highly recommend you listen to our getting into the details
Speaker 1: of it yesterday. It's highly troubling. We should start the
Speaker 1: show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this.
Speaker 1: It is Thursday. I know the date, even though chat
Speaker 1: GBT doesn't. Thursday March fifth, the year twenty twenty six war,
Speaker 1: Armstrong and getting we approve of this program. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you'd be looking for Armstrong getting one more thing from
Speaker 1: March to the fourth. All right, let's be get officially
Speaker 1: now according to FCC rules or EGX at Mark ris
Speaker 1: K here with you've heard about it. Here it is
Speaker 1: the big Arch.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a tasting right now, but I'm gonna
Speaker 3: eat this for my lunch, just so you know. So
Speaker 3: here we go. First, Holy cow, god, that is a
Speaker 3: big burger. So much going on with this. First of all,
Speaker 3: let's try to get this thing. I don't even know
Speaker 3: how to attack it got so much to it.
Speaker 1: All right, the moment of truth that is so good.
Speaker 1: That's a big bite for a big arch. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a big bite. That was a tiny little snibble.
Speaker 1: And then this little girl you took a little nibble
Speaker 1: of your sandwich and then you set it down, so
Speaker 1: I'll get I'll eat this later. The mousiest man that
Speaker 1: ever exit has a game. Yeah, that got a lot
Speaker 1: of mockery yesterday the guy runs McDonald's trying one of
Speaker 1: the new sandwiches on the video, and so then the
Speaker 1: people from Wendy's and in the video too, where people
Speaker 1: are saying, yeah, he clearly spit it out and went
Speaker 1: back to his kale salad. All the other big places
Speaker 1: put out their CEOs, put out videos of them tests,
Speaker 1: and then there was endless mockery, of course among your sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: there were like yours, regular guys who wanted the bite
Speaker 1: of a burger. I ain't Fred Rogers over there. Let's
Speaker 1: have some burger. Damn, that's a good burger. Here's here,
Speaker 1: double reverse punchline. All the attention has skyrocketed sales from Sure,
Speaker 1: That's what I thought yesterday. I thought this is going
Speaker 1: to get so much. Everybody's going to know they've got
Speaker 1: a new burger. Everybody, Yeah, yeah, which is the goal.
Speaker 1: We're a goal. But you know, I gotta admit I
Speaker 1: watched the video. I thought, boy, this dude's a real
Speaker 1: point dexter. But that burger looks really good. But if
Speaker 1: you're sitting with somebody who opens their burger in a
Speaker 1: McDonald's says, oh my god, look at this, there's a
Speaker 1: lot going on. Here is a fine burger product. You're
Speaker 1: sitting with a special person, which is fine. Look at this,
Speaker 1: this this is amazing. There's so much going on here.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I have a special bun. Okay,
Speaker 1: We've got Katie's headlines on the way, lots of stuff.
Speaker 1: Stay here. We couldn't stop talking about that McDonald's burger video,
Speaker 1: so we almost used up all Katie's time. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the least story
Speaker 1: with Katie Green and Katie all right, of course.
Speaker 2: All of the headlines about Iran right now, ABC US
Speaker 2: Portia torpedo attack on Iran's warship an atrocity, says the Minister.
Speaker 2: CNN Evacuation flights ramp up as Iran war spreads through
Speaker 2: the Middle East, and NBC Iran launches new.
Speaker 1: Attacks, says you.
Speaker 2: U s will bitterly regret sinking its warship.
Speaker 1: No, no, we will not.
Speaker 3: We will.
Speaker 1: New York Times.
Speaker 2: Senate Republicans blocked a bid the limit Trump's power to
Speaker 2: wage war, and I ran without congressional authorization.
Speaker 1: All the Republicans were against, sitting a handful of Democrats
Speaker 1: that thought that would be a troubling limit on presidential powers.
Speaker 1: Now the House is going to look at it today
Speaker 1: and we'll see where that goes. And I never thought
Speaker 1: I would suggest this, but there could be a straight
Speaker 1: up trade. John Fetterman Fetterman across the Island voted against
Speaker 1: the resolution. Rand Paul crossed the Island voted in favor
Speaker 1: of it. I love the Randy Man, but.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, Quall Street Journal, it told him they could only
Speaker 2: be together if he killed himself and then set a
Speaker 2: countdown clock. The lawsuit that claims Gemini led a man
Speaker 2: to suicide, that's.
Speaker 1: That story we've been talking about. Now, it's in the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal today. I'm glad we got on it
Speaker 1: yesterday because it's going to get a lot of attention.
Speaker 1: They got to make a TV show out of that
Speaker 1: or something. I know you guys can't wait for this New.
Speaker 2: York Post DOJ to release more than forty seven thousand
Speaker 2: additional Epstein files by.
Speaker 1: The end of the week. Oh my god, good lord.
Speaker 1: I've got a great little think piece on how what
Speaker 1: a cluster f This entire thing has been just an
Speaker 1: embarrassment to everybody involved. Love this USA.
Speaker 2: Today, United airlines can now ban passengers who listen to
Speaker 2: audio without wearing headphones.
Speaker 1: I'm good keep them out an open door midflight. You're
Speaker 1: a crazy person if you sit there with your audio
Speaker 1: up and don't like automatically think you're bothering people in
Speaker 1: the terminal included yes, no kidding, agreed.
Speaker 2: Study fines almost a third of gen Z men think
Speaker 2: a wife should obey her husband.
Speaker 1: M straight out of the Bible, you reject in the
Speaker 1: gen Z's not getting married. So I don't even understand
Speaker 1: how this factor. They don't even have a girlfriend. It's
Speaker 1: like asking me about being an astronaut. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think he press a bunch of buttons.
Speaker 2: And finally, from the Babylon Beef, to save time, I
Speaker 2: ran a points supreme leader who.
Speaker 1: Was already dead. Wow, eliminate the middleman. That's a good plan.
Speaker 1: The son of the Ayatola who they're talking about, man,
Speaker 1: did a Oppo hit piece on him come out yesterday,
Speaker 1: And I thought, is this true or is this just
Speaker 1: the sort of story you put out there to roil
Speaker 1: their internal politics about him. He can't get it up,
Speaker 1: so he's had all these surgeries so that he could
Speaker 1: possibly have a son himself, but he can't satisfy his wife.
Speaker 1: And this was the story that was circulating A sounds
Speaker 1: like the sort of thing you'd put out just to like,
Speaker 1: you know, cause chaos inside the ranks. If you had
Speaker 1: the son of the Ayatola's Schwans on your bing co GRD, congratulations,
Speaker 1: you're a winner. The New York Post actually talked about
Speaker 1: how soft he was. Yes, I've to get into that
Speaker 1: story more later, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 1: If you missed the segment, get the podcast Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty. Hillary Clinton demanded beauty
Speaker 1: lighting for her testimony concerning Jeffrey Epstein. House Republicans rejected
Speaker 1: her request, saying we can't have an interview in the dark.
Speaker 1: That was mean. So uh, I don't know how many
Speaker 1: of you know who Miranda Divine is. If you're a newsnut,
Speaker 1: you do, or if you're in media, you do. But
Speaker 1: she is a New York Post columnist who we've had
Speaker 1: on before, and she has as much credibility as anybody
Speaker 1: I can think of in terms of backing the Hunter
Speaker 1: Biden laptop when nobody else did, and just all this
Speaker 1: different sort of stuffs, taking on Russia Gate constantly. She
Speaker 1: is a all the lawfair against Trump. She has credibility
Speaker 1: in this world. Column today saying hey, Republicans, knock it
Speaker 1: off with the Epstein stuff, dragging the Clinton's up. There
Speaker 1: was a clown show pretending there's stuff. There is a
Speaker 1: clown show. We're not doing ourselves any good here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I agree with her, So I'll read a little
Speaker 1: bit of that later. It's pretty interesting. Yeah, I'm at
Speaker 1: the risk of repeating myself. If you want to seriously
Speaker 1: investigate it, ask all the law enforcement people who didn't
Speaker 1: file charges what was going on there? That's freaking Hillary
Speaker 1: is not where you're gonna find answers. So ridiculous that later.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is, Joe's been on this
Speaker 1: story for a while. I was ignoring this James Tellerico
Speaker 1: guy down in Texas. I knew there was an election
Speaker 1: going on there. I don't pay attention to off Year
Speaker 1: this and that Bellweather stuff. I never have. But this
Speaker 1: guy who won is a cul complete nut. I made
Speaker 1: a complete nut. He was able to get past the
Speaker 1: George Washington of Texas. That's what I called Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this guy is a far left wack adoodle.
Speaker 1: Oh and just it's so crazy. Yeah, I gotta talk
Speaker 1: about him as well. So a couple of angles on
Speaker 1: the Iran conflict that are not you know how many
Speaker 1: missiles were fired or whatever, because you can get that
Speaker 1: virtually everywhere. A great, great piece I came across by
Speaker 1: Kevin Cullen, which is charmingly entitled If at first you
Speaker 1: don't succeed, Die Die again. And it has to do
Speaker 1: with the succession problem in Iran, among other things, and
Speaker 1: he writes for decades analysts described to Israel's shadow war
Speaker 1: with Iran as a campaign of delay, sabotage nuclear facilities,
Speaker 1: intercept weaponshipments, remove key people. But obviously they've changed the plan.
Speaker 1: The target isn't simply leaders or weapons anymore. It's the
Speaker 1: regimes repaired continuity, meaning their ability to have a succession plan.
Speaker 1: And I love this description. And then he goes into
Speaker 1: how it usually works. If you knock out the head
Speaker 1: of a terrorist organization, it's pretty quickly the next in
Speaker 1: line steps up, The organization remains intact, the workflow, the
Speaker 1: command structures is fine. But Israel realized that no, let's just,
Speaker 1: you know, let's kill the second guy and the third
Speaker 1: guy and the fourth guy and keep going. Now, the
Speaker 1: same logic reaches tran ComIH Many is killed, the council
Speaker 1: responsible for choosing a successor is struck while deliberating, the
Speaker 1: system's reset mechanism becomes a vulnerability rather than a safeguard.
Speaker 1: This is an attrition warfare. It is succession denial, and
Speaker 1: I thought this was the really interesting description. Authoritarian systems
Speaker 1: recover from shocks by quickly re establishing hierarchy. If that
Speaker 1: re establishment becomes dangerous, decision makers hesitate, Hesitation spreads uncertain
Speaker 1: you throughout the entire structure. A regime can survive sanctions
Speaker 1: and or air strikes, or even the death of a
Speaker 1: supreme leader. What it struggles to survive is doubt about
Speaker 1: who holds authority and who holds authority next. I'm sure
Speaker 1: I can't imagine how they're even operating in Iran right now.
Speaker 1: Who's deciding to fire what at who? Exactly? A little
Speaker 1: more description so that that doubt ripples outward. Commanders delay
Speaker 1: orders until legitimacy is confirmed. Is that guy really in charred?
Speaker 1: Rival factions position themselves cautiously. Security services turn or inwards,
Speaker 1: searching for infiltration. Decision cycles lengthened under pressure. Elongated decision
Speaker 1: cycles become fragility. This strategy depends on intelligence rather than
Speaker 1: brute force. In the days after the leadership strike accounts surface,
Speaker 1: indicating that Israeli intelligence had achieved sustained visibility into parts
Speaker 1: of Terrans, a surveillance ecosystem, tracking their leaders. They don't
Speaker 1: know what to do next in any realm of what
Speaker 1: they are doing, except maybe at the unit level of
Speaker 1: the military. That's got to be true. And even if
Speaker 1: you got orders from somebody, you'd think, well, maybe they're
Speaker 1: in charge. Maybe they're in charge for now, maybe they're
Speaker 1: dead by the end of the day. I don't like
Speaker 1: this order. I'm ignoring it. That's got to be happening sometimes.
Speaker 1: Then this from a meet Siegel, the new Israeli rules
Speaker 1: of engagement, proportionate responses are a thing of the past.
Speaker 1: Now we understand we can't live with terrorists. He is
Speaker 1: in Israeli and he talks about how on the night
Speaker 1: of October sixth, twenty twenty three, the defense establishment realized
Speaker 1: something was happening in Gaza, but failed to act because
Speaker 1: there had been quiet in recent years, and nobody wanted
Speaker 1: to be fingered for the guy who disrupted the quiet
Speaker 1: by being overly aggressive or anything like that. Decades of containment,
Speaker 1: restraint and forbearans had made Israel slow to stir and
Speaker 1: vulnerable in appearance, and then two and a half years later,
Speaker 1: Israel stands at the pinnacle of its power in the
Speaker 1: Middle East. As has been said many times, including around here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Hamas who was seeking a change the look of the
Speaker 1: Middle East. Well they succeeded, all right. But I love
Speaker 1: this and I want you to think about this in
Speaker 1: terms of the United States security. So it talks about
Speaker 1: preemptive action versus the IDF, the Israel defense for us
Speaker 1: being strictly defensive, and how most of the great things
Speaker 1: that have happened for Israel have been preemptive or that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. But anyway, the point of it, the
Speaker 1: terrible price of a defensive posture, was reveeled on October seventh.
Speaker 1: These are the new rules of the game. One, the
Speaker 1: enemy exists in one of two states, either pursuer or pursued.
Speaker 1: For years, Israel shot away from targeted killings, granted dare
Speaker 1: leaders and Marianian officials the time and peace of mind
Speaker 1: to plot against the Jewish state. The IDF's new mindset
Speaker 1: is the exact opposite. If terrorists are running for their lives,
Speaker 1: they can't make plans to take ours. Two, when enemies
Speaker 1: announced their intention to destroy you believe them. It isn't
Speaker 1: election rhetoric, they don't have elections. Isn't service or empty
Speaker 1: words death to American death. Israel are mission statements. Clearly,
Speaker 1: We've we talked about this a lot for years, just
Speaker 1: how we ended up in this situation where Israel or
Speaker 1: the United States are the free world put up with Well,
Speaker 1: you can fire in you know, a hundred rockets, and
Speaker 1: you know, because we got the ability to knock them down,
Speaker 1: we'll just let it go. Or how about that period
Speaker 1: of time where the Houthis were firing all those ships
Speaker 1: from all kinds of different countries and so you just
Speaker 1: couldn't ship stuff through there. Why does the world put
Speaker 1: up with that? Well, maybe the world's not gonna put
Speaker 1: up with that anymore, exactly, exactly. Yeah, and remember Hamas
Speaker 1: the Houthis has a lot that's Iran. Yeah, it's all
Speaker 1: around another point, there can be no modus vivendi with
Speaker 1: terrorist organizations. Now I'm Latino, so I'm fluent in Latin.
Speaker 1: But if you're not. It's a gentleman's agreement. It's a
Speaker 1: way of dealing with murderous ambitions can't be soothed soothed
Speaker 1: with gentlemen's agreements, international guarantees, can incentives. Israel tried this
Speaker 1: in Gaza and the result was catastrophic. That's talking about
Speaker 1: the two year period where Hamas said publicly, Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole fight in Israel thing so old, We're just
Speaker 1: gonna govern. Okay, Well, let's lift side by side, will
Speaker 1: be cool, And the entire time they're plotting the horrors
Speaker 1: of October seventh. Another new rule, when you respond, overwhelm
Speaker 1: your foe. For years, the enemy fired rockets and Israel
Speaker 1: replied with proportional force. This normalized the firing on civilians, kidnappings,
Speaker 1: and invasions. But this changed on October seventh. After October seventh,
Speaker 1: when Hasan Israela thought he was playing by the old rules,
Speaker 1: launched a few rockets daily. It ended with his elimination,
Speaker 1: the detect decapitation of his organization, and the destruction of
Speaker 1: eighty percent of their missile stockpile. Two more new rules,
Speaker 1: fundamentalists accumulate weapons to use them, not to deter. For years,
Speaker 1: Israel ignored the vast ammunition depots in gazin Lebanon, under
Speaker 1: the assumption that they would simply rust they didn't. And
Speaker 1: when you are on the strong side, the enemy is
Speaker 1: the one who should fear a miscalculation. In other words,
Speaker 1: as you've been saying for a long time in reference
Speaker 1: to Ukraine, how about they're afraid we escalate. Are you
Speaker 1: ready to hear about the iatolas junk? No, that's actually
Speaker 1: have a feeling you're gonna tell us anyway, it's actually
Speaker 1: the son of the Iyatola, So to me, this seem
Speaker 1: might be the new guy, so his junk is definitely
Speaker 1: more relevant on the international scene, the global scene. What
Speaker 1: do you call fake oppo research? It's a thing, especially
Speaker 1: happens during wartime, where you get stuff out there just
Speaker 1: to like discredit people. If you've ever heard any references
Speaker 1: to Hitler having one Ball, that was a made up
Speaker 1: song by people who hated Hitler just to like discredit him,
Speaker 1: like poke fun at him, to mock him, there's no,
Speaker 1: it's not based in anything. It's just a and I
Speaker 1: think this might be that about the Iyatola's son, who's
Speaker 1: supposedly next in line. Anyway, I don't know where it
Speaker 1: came from, the son of Iran's slain leader, the Ietola,
Speaker 1: reportedly the favorite to succeed his despotic father was treated
Speaker 1: for impotency so severe that he had to be hospitalized
Speaker 1: numerous times. Diplomatic Leak's show hospitalized for impotency. This seems
Speaker 1: crazy to us as propaganda, But in that part of
Speaker 1: the that's yeah, that's part of the world. That's why
Speaker 1: everybody's got a big, bushy beard and they diet to
Speaker 1: look young and virile. Saddam Hussein at his bushy black
Speaker 1: mustache died. Well, that's that's what made me think of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know in that part of the world, the whole
Speaker 1: being manly is really really a big deal, and so
Speaker 1: saying this guy can't get it up for a for
Speaker 1: his wife or a girlfriend is really a shot at someone.
Speaker 1: So somebody wanted to discredit him, and the New York
Speaker 1: Post runs with it as this is a real story.
Speaker 1: This Machaba Kamaini, he's fifty six years old, underwent several
Speaker 1: stints of treatment at the these hospitals at names here
Speaker 1: after having a hard time conceiving with his wife. According
Speaker 1: to Wiki Leaks in the two thousands, this is this says,
Speaker 1: I maybe it's true, I don't know. I still think
Speaker 1: it was an attempt to just discredit him by someone.
Speaker 1: The regime hardliner was reportedly so soft that he checked
Speaker 1: into clinics at least four times, including a stay that
Speaker 1: lasted two months before he was able to knock up
Speaker 1: his wife two months and it goes in two months,
Speaker 1: and it goes back to previous girlfriends he had that
Speaker 1: were allegedly unsatisfied also, So this is just a this
Speaker 1: is just a rumor that got out there somebody who
Speaker 1: didn't want him to be the next diatola that he
Speaker 1: can't even get it up. He's so soft, he had
Speaker 1: to be in the hospital for two months. What well,
Speaker 1: let's run it up the flagpole. How let's let's say
Speaker 1: he's a cross dresser and they have a I cook
Speaker 1: up some pictures of him. Couldn't hurt, right? How about that?
Speaker 1: When the guy's name Machaba, that sounds like some sort
Speaker 1: of hipster tea drink that you know your your hippies, right,
Speaker 1: it's a combination of matcha and boba. I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: a chaime of chop, right, and it's nine dollars. What
Speaker 1: nine dollars? That's what we charge for these things. So
Speaker 1: you can see they're very popular. My kids on the
Speaker 1: match of bandwagon every time I get in when it's
Speaker 1: like seven and a half bucks is so expensive and
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Lisa doesn't have those
Speaker 1: gross balls in the bottom, like, oh, you guys, it's
Speaker 1: all about the balls, Ayatola's son. Oh yeah, it's all
Speaker 1: about the pearls. Oh so disgusting. Oh the can can
Speaker 1: have one too often though, because you know, Papa gets
Speaker 1: fat pretty easily, so they're fattening a lot of calories. Yeah.
Speaker 1: First time I had one of those come up through
Speaker 1: the straw, I thought it was gonna vomit on a style.
Speaker 1: It's so gross. Rat had lost an eyeball in there.
Speaker 1: The consistency of those things. Yes, Katie, I'm with Joe.
Speaker 1: Love the balls. Oh they're gross, nhs, just so squeeze.
Speaker 1: Do you see what's the rats? I got in there somehow?
Speaker 1: What's your flavorite choice there, Katie? I like, yeah, that one,
Speaker 1: the mango milk teaese with that, Yeah, exotic. I'm a
Speaker 1: tie tie Chai tea tai chi huh. I think it's
Speaker 1: chai tea. I think that's what I like. Have you
Speaker 1: ever just tried my wife fast to tell me every time?
Speaker 1: Have you ever just tried a lipt in sun tea.
Speaker 1: It's very it's delicious, but balls you you're talking sometime gross.
Speaker 1: We got the mail bag on the way next to you.
Speaker 1: If you are white, you're spreading the white virus, whether
Speaker 1: you know it or not. According to James Tallerico, that
Speaker 1: complete nut job who just won an election down in
Speaker 1: Texas the other day, we need to talk more about
Speaker 1: this guy. I think the proper response is f you, sir, hmmm,
Speaker 1: and the horse you rode in on. Here's your freedom
Speaker 1: loving quote of the day, continuing our series about war
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, both pros and cons just philosophizing about conflict,
Speaker 1: is from John Adams. I must study politics and war
Speaker 1: that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.
Speaker 1: I love that quote. Yeah, it reminds me of the
Speaker 1: paraphrased quote of or Well about you know, people can
Speaker 1: only sleep in their beds at night because rough men
Speaker 1: stand ready to do violence on their behalf. The only
Speaker 1: problem with that quote is that it almost states that,
Speaker 1: so then the next generation does get to study mathematics
Speaker 1: and philosophy and not worry about wark because it doesn't
Speaker 1: work that way. Each generation needs to study war bec
Speaker 1: it's all ever present. It's part of human nature. Yeah. Granted,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, if anybody ever stops studying politics
Speaker 1: and war, there's no freaking way their kids they're going
Speaker 1: to be studying mathematics and philosophy. But yeah, your point
Speaker 1: is a good one. And then finally this Dwight Eisenhower.
Speaker 1: I hate war as only a soldier who has lived
Speaker 1: it can only as one who has seen its brutality,
Speaker 1: its futility. It's stupidity. Amen to that mailbag. There is
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of stupidity in war. It's just awful.
Speaker 1: It's just part of the deal. Yeah, and a tremendous
Speaker 1: amount of profit too, which yeah, I think perverts some
Speaker 1: people's thinking about it. But topic for another day. It's
Speaker 1: rather complicated. Drums an oat mail bag at Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Giddy dot com. Man, we have a lot and we
Speaker 1: can never get to half of it, or it's a
Speaker 1: tenth of it. But I love this from Jennifer Guys.
Speaker 1: The framing of the attack on Oriyon is a war
Speaker 1: of choice by pacifists in the media is a false dichotomy.
Speaker 1: This framing assumes there is nothing other than a choice
Speaker 1: for war. I flat out disagree. All wars and military
Speaker 1: actions are non actions for that matter, are wars of choice.
Speaker 1: Past administrations have made the choice of inaction and or
Speaker 1: palettes of cash. With regard to Iran, I regul have
Speaker 1: the choices discussion with my kids, and she goes into
Speaker 1: examples from real life which are good. But for the
Speaker 1: purpose of time, I'll go into Ukraine being invaded by Russia.
Speaker 1: Ukraine absolutely had a choice to lay down their arms
Speaker 1: and be swallowed whole, or to fight, how to fight,
Speaker 1: where to fight. The bombing of Pearl Harbor World War
Speaker 1: two in Europe. We could have made different choices which
Speaker 1: would have invariably had different outcomes. Every day we are
Speaker 1: weighing and calculating variables and deciding which direction to take.
Speaker 1: All past administrations have done the same thing and made
Speaker 1: various choices with regards to Iran. Trump just made the
Speaker 1: choice to take a different approach. What the consequences of
Speaker 1: that approach will be remain to be seen. Brilliant stuff. Wow, Jennifer,
Speaker 1: keep the emails coming, Marina from San Diego morning. Guys.
Speaker 1: The Dems are morons to say Trump didn't let them
Speaker 1: know anything ahead of the strike. The dem who actually
Speaker 1: had a brain injury is the only one with a
Speaker 1: functioning brain. I think she's referring to Senator Fetterman. The
Speaker 1: others don't have a working brain between them. You've said
Speaker 1: Trump made this decision alone. Technically true, but he did
Speaker 1: not make an event. He's surrounded by the best military
Speaker 1: minds and he told the Gang of eight that the
Speaker 1: time is now, which is true. And who didn't know
Speaker 1: that the s was going to go down when most
Speaker 1: of our navy and planes were heading to the Persian Gulf.
Speaker 1: This is definitely not going to be an exercise. Like
Speaker 1: you both were saying, Oh, it didn't mean that he
Speaker 1: didn't have advisors. It's the idea that he made the call,
Speaker 1: and that's not The question is whether or not that's
Speaker 1: the way what the constitution intended that he gets to
Speaker 1: make that call on his own right. Also, my sixteen
Speaker 1: year old son laughed hard when you called Britain's Prime
Speaker 1: minister a little bit. He's getting a head start on
Speaker 1: next year's government class. My sixteen year old would have
Speaker 1: laughed at that too. Yeah, he is, Ah, let's see.
Speaker 1: Oh I love this, I love this. I'm all for
Speaker 1: people expressing themselves and trying to find themselves, you know,
Speaker 1: especially adolescents. I once had an air ring to my
Speaker 1: horror and a fro. But this from Adam from slowly
Speaker 1: turning purple. Idaho, Good Lord, not you, Idaho. We don't
Speaker 1: have time for this. This is because this is solid
Speaker 1: gold email age gold. Jerry, we got three slapping it
Speaker 1: out of my hand. Michael, you're constant yelling about the club.
Speaker 1: You slapping it out of your hand. It can stay
Speaker 1: on your hand. Hour two, hour two. It will still
Speaker 1: be in your hand, all right. And we'll get to
Speaker 1: that and other stuff. And if you miss a segment
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