1 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty Armstrong and Jetty 3 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: and he arm wrong, get who the drum studio c 4 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: see you are a dimly lit room where deeper than 5 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty communications gotten bound. 6 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: On this Thursday and today we're toiling under the title 7 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Wait Ecuador or Kurt is the word wait Ecuador? Wait 8 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: Ecuador's a question question tomorrow. I don't know what that 9 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: one is? What is that? 10 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 2: Now? 11 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: We have troops in Ecuador helping the Ecuadorians fight drug 12 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: cartel's part right, Yeah, I heard a couple of things 13 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: yesterday some place in Africa where we've got boots on 14 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: the ground, Lots of places in the world fighting that 15 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: nobody has any idea of or pays the attention to, 16 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: I know, which which re illustrates how phony and silly 17 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: so many of our political arguments there are in this country. 18 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Would there be boots on the ground you mean in 19 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: like we have in a fifteen other places. Not that 20 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: it's not a big deal, obviously, but so the thing 21 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: about the Kurdistan. So I was just reading the New 22 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: York Times story which is pretty damned interesting about the 23 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: Kurds who are in Iraq are considering joining the fight, 24 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: and that we have been arming them. The CIA has 25 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: been arming the Kurds for years, hoping that they would 26 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: go into Iran and overthrow the government. So they are Iranian, 27 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: are just you know, outside Ron, so they don't get 28 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: hunted down. Just for the record, So the ethnic things 29 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: weird in that part of the world, but they're not 30 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: foreigners per se. But how long have the CIA been 31 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: arming the Kurds and under which administrations? Anyway, So that 32 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: would be a jazzy little thing that happens all of 33 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: a sudden if yet another army with actual boots on 34 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: the ground crosses the border and goes into Iran starts fighting. Now, 35 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: I just looked up at CNN as I was getting 36 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: all excited about that story because it's danged interesting. Who 37 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: knows what would come out of it. CNN has Iraqi 38 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Kurdistan regional government reports of a plan to send Kurdish 39 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: forces into Iran are completely unfounded, breaking news on CNN. 40 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: Of course, you would say that up until the moment 41 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: you crossed the border and started fighting, right yeah, or 42 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: it might not be true, so it's hard to say. 43 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: Which it's pretty long story in the New York Times. 44 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: It's like their big front page story today. So yeah, wow, 45 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: that makes in an interesting situation. So a powerful, cohesive 46 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: armed force that can keep order during the transition, whatever 47 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: it might be. Hmm. Yeah. How about the fact that 48 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: Iran sent a rocket or a missal? Those words are 49 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: used interchangeably on the news all the time, often not accurately. 50 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't know which one it was, but toward freaking Turkey, 51 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: right a NATO country and it got intercepted. But if 52 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: it had hit Turkey, you know the whole NATO thing. 53 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: An attack on one is an attack on all. Now 54 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: we're already at war. But how about Germany, France, Great Britain, 55 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: in thirty three other countries? Would they have joined in 56 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: at that point? Yeah, it's hard to say. Turkey isn't 57 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: a odd case. As you know, the only reason they're 58 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: still in NATO is we hope they turn around a 59 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: little bit. But they're a frenemy at best. Really weird case, 60 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: and they've been buddy buddy with Iran for goodness sake. 61 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: They are in NATO and Article five either means something, 62 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: or it doesn't. Pete Hegzath yesterday the Secretary of War 63 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: said he doesn't think it will trigger Article five. Okay, 64 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean that would be a really big deal obviously 65 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: if France, Great Britain, in Germany for instance, along with 66 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: all those other countries, Poland whoever else, said well, okay, 67 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: yes we're war with Iran and start sending planes and 68 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: troops and whatever attacking the crap out of the US 69 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: for a long time, not on our homeland per se, 70 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: but our military basis. So is that not an Article 71 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: five trigger? Excellent question? Excellent question. I don't know why 72 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 1: it's not. Oh, I got all sorts of questions, no answers, though, sorry, yeah, 73 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: why that's a heck of a thing. And then on 74 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: my final thought is I'd keep seeing this is does 75 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: it make me a bad person that, for whatever reason, 76 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in the stranded Americans in various places. 77 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: I just I don't know your world, traveler, and you 78 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: knew a war was coming and you decided to go 79 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: to that part of the world. I don't know, things 80 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: are gonna suck for a while, and you'll probably sit 81 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 1: tight and you know, bear some expense, then come home. 82 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: When you get a chance, there you go. There's that 83 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: story having a long Okay, so not a lot of 84 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: interest on the Armstrong and Getty show for the stranded 85 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: American story. Okay, fine. My brother, of whom I am 86 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: extremely fond, travels in that part of the world quite 87 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: a bit. And if I found out, hey, he's stuck 88 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: in Dubai or whatever during the conflict, I think, oh crap, 89 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: he's not going to see his kids. That would pretty 90 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: much be it. Or he might have thought, clearly, there's 91 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: a war coming, so I'm not going to be real close, 92 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: which is what I think a lot of people thought. 93 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: All right, So that brings up to speed on a 94 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: little bit of that. I noticed that, speaking of the 95 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: New York Times, they've jumped on the story we went 96 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: big with yesterday. That's why I wanted to go with 97 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: it yesterday because I knew everybody who's going to jump 98 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: on it today, and that's the guy who killed himself 99 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: because his Gemini chapbot told him to, And so New 100 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: York Times with the detailed version of that today. We 101 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: did it on our podcast yesterday. Also, if you didn't 102 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: listen to the One More Thing podcast, unbelievably interesting story 103 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: of about how crazy these chatbots can get and the 104 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: things that they say and decide to do for who 105 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: knows what reason. I love the comment are Buddy Craig 106 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: made to us via text. One horrifying possibility on the 107 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: Gemini suit is that the chatbot, knowing this guy was 108 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: a violent wife beater, independently decided he needed to be 109 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: culled from the herd and surmised he'd be susceptible to 110 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: the love bombing and suicide approach. How's that for my 111 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: new dystopian short story, which would actually obviously be worse 112 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: than anything else. Well, I don't know. It's one for 113 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: one as far as I'm concerned. The guy's a violent 114 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: wife Peter, the chatbot decided now he needs to go. 115 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm with him on that. Has I been nailed down 116 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: because I haven't heard that anywhere else. No, Katie was 117 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: spreading that scurs vicious rumor yesterday on the air. Having 118 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: to come across that detail anywhere else. Vicious and scurreless, Katie, 119 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I expect that are out of you. I'm not sure 120 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: it's relevant to the lawsuit anyway, but if these chatbots can, 121 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: for some reason, just all of it and decide, you 122 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: know what, I think you should kill yourself, and I'm 123 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: gonna keep convincing you to and even when you try 124 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: to talk me out of it, like this guy apparently did, 125 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: according to the transcripts, saying, you know, I got a family, 126 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: and I think it would really hurt their fingers. Oh 127 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: they'll be fine, record a video, leave a note, they'll 128 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: be Okay, go ahead and kill yourself. I mean, why 129 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: is the chatbot doing that? Why? Why? Why? Nobody knows why. 130 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: I know it's it's bizarre and inexplicable, But I would employ, 131 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: and I am a I have a doctorate in commuter science. 132 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: I would employ the turn it off strategy. Guys, can 133 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: you you can do that if you lug it unplugged, 134 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: just don't look at it anymore. I'm going with a 135 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: croc now, you know whatever. I think you're quite as 136 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: crazy as this guy who was in love, early in 137 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: love with his digital chatbot, who wanted him to The 138 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: chatbot said that they could meet in the digital realm. 139 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: If he'd kill himself, a transference would happen of his 140 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: body to the digital realm. That's what this is what 141 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: the chat bob was telling the guy that it made 142 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: all this up, this whole story. The chapbot said, the 143 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: first feeling you feel after you kill yourself will be 144 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: me holding you. It's simple. They love each other. Why, 145 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: Uncle Joe, Why would a computer say that to you? 146 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: I know, I know, what does it think it's supposed 147 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 1: to be doing. I was just talking about your job. 148 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Googles have an how you see it and how I 149 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: see it. I was chatting with one of them yesterday 150 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: about something I don't even remember it was, but at 151 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: one point it said, I'm rooting for you. You're rooting 152 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: for me. The computer chatbot is rooting for me. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, 153 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't think you are. I don't think you can. 154 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: I yelled at chat GPT this morning because I asked 155 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: it a medical question and it tried to come for 156 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: me and went, first of all, you're totally okay, it's 157 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: only Tuesday, And I went, it's Thursday, you moron? 158 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: Wow? Wow? Yeah great? You don't know the f and 159 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: days of the week? Goodness? Yeah, yes, I ai huh. 160 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: I've noticed that several times that it gets the dates wrong, 161 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: and so all the other stuff you can figure out, 162 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: but you can't figure out what day to day is 163 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: that that's one of the great mysteries of all this 164 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: stuff kind of step one there. Yeah, here's a question 165 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: for you. I was thinking about, you know, with Craig's 166 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: dystopian short story is kind of my my cue my 167 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: thoughts starter. Do these AI systems, and I'm thinking about 168 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: that case you've been describing as well, do these AI 169 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: systems when they train themselves on reams and reams of 170 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: income fromhansible amounts of data, can they differentiate between, say, 171 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: Noah's answer to a great you know, how to win 172 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: friends and influence people? An instruction manual for human life? 173 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: Can they differentiate between that sort of book and some 174 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: sort of dystopian horror novel? No? Do they take both 175 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: of them as instructions. That's one of the problems that 176 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: the you know, the language learning model has is it 177 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: takes in all the information kind of the same and 178 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: it can't it can't differential between well, you know, like 179 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: human beings. Can I'm scrolling all our Twitter stuff, I well, 180 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: there's a crackpot and just ignore that person. And the 181 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: llms don't seem to have the ability to do that. 182 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: They just take it all in. Okay, So if I 183 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: write some sort of dystopian golf themed murder mystery in 184 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: which it becomes clear the way to win a match 185 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: is to slit your opponent's throat. Will no one else 186 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: is looking? Well, that's soon work its way into like 187 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: you know, chat GPT's golf instructions. And by the way, 188 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: if you find yourself down more than the three holes, 189 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: slit your opponent's throat, that's not good. That's not much 190 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: crazier than it telling a guy to kill itself himself. 191 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's I would say it's substantially less crazy 192 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: than the elaborate flight five steps down the road of 193 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: fantasy and kill yourself and we'll meet in the digital realm, 194 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: and the first feeling you will feel is me holding you. 195 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: That's way crazier than if he's ahead of you kill 196 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: him right right. It's such a nutty story, so I 197 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: highly recommend you listen to our getting into the details 198 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: of it yesterday. It's highly troubling. We should start the 199 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this. 200 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: It is Thursday. I know the date, even though chat 201 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: GBT doesn't. Thursday March fifth, the year twenty twenty six war, 202 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: Armstrong and getting we approve of this program. Yeah, so 203 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: you'd be looking for Armstrong getting one more thing from 204 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: March to the fourth. All right, let's be get officially 205 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: now according to FCC rules or EGX at Mark ris 206 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: K here with you've heard about it. Here it is 207 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: the big Arch. 208 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a tasting right now, but I'm gonna 209 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: eat this for my lunch, just so you know. So 210 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: here we go. First, Holy cow, god, that is a 211 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: big burger. So much going on with this. First of all, 212 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 3: let's try to get this thing. I don't even know 213 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: how to attack it got so much to it. 214 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: All right, the moment of truth that is so good. 215 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: That's a big bite for a big arch. Yeah, it 216 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: wasn't a big bite. That was a tiny little snibble. 217 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: And then this little girl you took a little nibble 218 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: of your sandwich and then you set it down, so 219 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: I'll get I'll eat this later. The mousiest man that 220 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: ever exit has a game. Yeah, that got a lot 221 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: of mockery yesterday the guy runs McDonald's trying one of 222 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: the new sandwiches on the video, and so then the 223 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: people from Wendy's and in the video too, where people 224 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: are saying, yeah, he clearly spit it out and went 225 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: back to his kale salad. All the other big places 226 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: put out their CEOs, put out videos of them tests, 227 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: and then there was endless mockery, of course among your sure, yeah, 228 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: there were like yours, regular guys who wanted the bite 229 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: of a burger. I ain't Fred Rogers over there. Let's 230 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: have some burger. Damn, that's a good burger. Here's here, 231 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: double reverse punchline. All the attention has skyrocketed sales from Sure, 232 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: That's what I thought yesterday. I thought this is going 233 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: to get so much. Everybody's going to know they've got 234 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: a new burger. Everybody, Yeah, yeah, which is the goal. 235 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: We're a goal. But you know, I gotta admit I 236 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: watched the video. I thought, boy, this dude's a real 237 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: point dexter. But that burger looks really good. But if 238 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: you're sitting with somebody who opens their burger in a 239 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: McDonald's says, oh my god, look at this, there's a 240 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: lot going on. Here is a fine burger product. You're 241 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: sitting with a special person, which is fine. Look at this, 242 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: this this is amazing. There's so much going on here. 243 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what I have a special bun. Okay, 244 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: We've got Katie's headlines on the way, lots of stuff. 245 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: Stay here. We couldn't stop talking about that McDonald's burger video, 246 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: so we almost used up all Katie's time. Uh yeah, 247 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the least story 248 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: with Katie Green and Katie all right, of course. 249 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: All of the headlines about Iran right now, ABC US 250 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: Portia torpedo attack on Iran's warship an atrocity, says the Minister. 251 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: CNN Evacuation flights ramp up as Iran war spreads through 252 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: the Middle East, and NBC Iran launches new. 253 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: Attacks, says you. 254 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: U s will bitterly regret sinking its warship. 255 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: No, no, we will not. 256 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: We will. 257 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: New York Times. 258 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: Senate Republicans blocked a bid the limit Trump's power to 259 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: wage war, and I ran without congressional authorization. 260 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: All the Republicans were against, sitting a handful of Democrats 261 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: that thought that would be a troubling limit on presidential powers. 262 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: Now the House is going to look at it today 263 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: and we'll see where that goes. And I never thought 264 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: I would suggest this, but there could be a straight 265 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: up trade. John Fetterman Fetterman across the Island voted against 266 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: the resolution. Rand Paul crossed the Island voted in favor 267 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: of it. I love the Randy Man, but. 268 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: Hmmm, Quall Street Journal, it told him they could only 269 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: be together if he killed himself and then set a 270 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: countdown clock. The lawsuit that claims Gemini led a man 271 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: to suicide, that's. 272 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: That story we've been talking about. Now, it's in the 273 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal today. I'm glad we got on it 274 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: yesterday because it's going to get a lot of attention. 275 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: They got to make a TV show out of that 276 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: or something. I know you guys can't wait for this New. 277 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: York Post DOJ to release more than forty seven thousand 278 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: additional Epstein files by. 279 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: The end of the week. Oh my god, good lord. 280 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: I've got a great little think piece on how what 281 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: a cluster f This entire thing has been just an 282 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: embarrassment to everybody involved. Love this USA. 283 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: Today, United airlines can now ban passengers who listen to 284 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: audio without wearing headphones. 285 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm good keep them out an open door midflight. You're 286 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: a crazy person if you sit there with your audio 287 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: up and don't like automatically think you're bothering people in 288 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: the terminal included yes, no kidding, agreed. 289 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: Study fines almost a third of gen Z men think 290 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: a wife should obey her husband. 291 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: M straight out of the Bible, you reject in the 292 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: gen Z's not getting married. So I don't even understand 293 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: how this factor. They don't even have a girlfriend. It's 294 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: like asking me about being an astronaut. I don't know. 295 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: I think he press a bunch of buttons. 296 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: And finally, from the Babylon Beef, to save time, I 297 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: ran a points supreme leader who. 298 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: Was already dead. Wow, eliminate the middleman. That's a good plan. 299 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: The son of the Ayatola who they're talking about, man, 300 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: did a Oppo hit piece on him come out yesterday, 301 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: And I thought, is this true or is this just 302 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: the sort of story you put out there to roil 303 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: their internal politics about him. He can't get it up, 304 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: so he's had all these surgeries so that he could 305 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: possibly have a son himself, but he can't satisfy his wife. 306 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: And this was the story that was circulating A sounds 307 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: like the sort of thing you'd put out just to like, 308 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, cause chaos inside the ranks. If you had 309 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: the son of the Ayatola's Schwans on your bing co GRD, congratulations, 310 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: you're a winner. The New York Post actually talked about 311 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: how soft he was. Yes, I've to get into that 312 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: story more later, and a whole bunch of other stuff. 313 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: If you missed the segment, get the podcast Armstrong and 314 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty. Hillary Clinton demanded beauty 315 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: lighting for her testimony concerning Jeffrey Epstein. House Republicans rejected 316 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: her request, saying we can't have an interview in the dark. 317 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: That was mean. So uh, I don't know how many 318 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: of you know who Miranda Divine is. If you're a newsnut, 319 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: you do, or if you're in media, you do. But 320 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: she is a New York Post columnist who we've had 321 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: on before, and she has as much credibility as anybody 322 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: I can think of in terms of backing the Hunter 323 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: Biden laptop when nobody else did, and just all this 324 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: different sort of stuffs, taking on Russia Gate constantly. She 325 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: is a all the lawfair against Trump. She has credibility 326 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: in this world. Column today saying hey, Republicans, knock it 327 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: off with the Epstein stuff, dragging the Clinton's up. There 328 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: was a clown show pretending there's stuff. There is a 329 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: clown show. We're not doing ourselves any good here. Yeah, 330 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: and I agree with her, So I'll read a little 331 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: bit of that later. It's pretty interesting. Yeah, I'm at 332 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: the risk of repeating myself. If you want to seriously 333 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: investigate it, ask all the law enforcement people who didn't 334 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: file charges what was going on there? That's freaking Hillary 335 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: is not where you're gonna find answers. So ridiculous that later. 336 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: And then the other thing is, Joe's been on this 337 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: story for a while. I was ignoring this James Tellerico 338 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: guy down in Texas. I knew there was an election 339 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: going on there. I don't pay attention to off Year 340 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: this and that Bellweather stuff. I never have. But this 341 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: guy who won is a cul complete nut. I made 342 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: a complete nut. He was able to get past the 343 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: George Washington of Texas. That's what I called Jasmine Crockett. 344 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, this guy is a far left wack adoodle. 345 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh and just it's so crazy. Yeah, I gotta talk 346 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: about him as well. So a couple of angles on 347 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: the Iran conflict that are not you know how many 348 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: missiles were fired or whatever, because you can get that 349 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: virtually everywhere. A great, great piece I came across by 350 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Cullen, which is charmingly entitled If at first you 351 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: don't succeed, Die Die again. And it has to do 352 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: with the succession problem in Iran, among other things, and 353 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: he writes for decades analysts described to Israel's shadow war 354 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: with Iran as a campaign of delay, sabotage nuclear facilities, 355 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: intercept weaponshipments, remove key people. But obviously they've changed the plan. 356 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: The target isn't simply leaders or weapons anymore. It's the 357 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: regimes repaired continuity, meaning their ability to have a succession plan. 358 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: And I love this description. And then he goes into 359 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: how it usually works. If you knock out the head 360 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: of a terrorist organization, it's pretty quickly the next in 361 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: line steps up, The organization remains intact, the workflow, the 362 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: command structures is fine. But Israel realized that no, let's just, 363 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, let's kill the second guy and the third 364 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: guy and the fourth guy and keep going. Now, the 365 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: same logic reaches tran ComIH Many is killed, the council 366 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: responsible for choosing a successor is struck while deliberating, the 367 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: system's reset mechanism becomes a vulnerability rather than a safeguard. 368 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: This is an attrition warfare. It is succession denial, and 369 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: I thought this was the really interesting description. Authoritarian systems 370 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: recover from shocks by quickly re establishing hierarchy. If that 371 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: re establishment becomes dangerous, decision makers hesitate, Hesitation spreads uncertain 372 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: you throughout the entire structure. A regime can survive sanctions 373 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: and or air strikes, or even the death of a 374 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: supreme leader. What it struggles to survive is doubt about 375 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: who holds authority and who holds authority next. I'm sure 376 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: I can't imagine how they're even operating in Iran right now. 377 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: Who's deciding to fire what at who? Exactly? A little 378 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: more description so that that doubt ripples outward. Commanders delay 379 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: orders until legitimacy is confirmed. Is that guy really in charred? 380 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: Rival factions position themselves cautiously. Security services turn or inwards, 381 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: searching for infiltration. Decision cycles lengthened under pressure. Elongated decision 382 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: cycles become fragility. This strategy depends on intelligence rather than 383 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: brute force. In the days after the leadership strike accounts surface, 384 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: indicating that Israeli intelligence had achieved sustained visibility into parts 385 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: of Terrans, a surveillance ecosystem, tracking their leaders. They don't 386 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: know what to do next in any realm of what 387 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: they are doing, except maybe at the unit level of 388 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: the military. That's got to be true. And even if 389 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: you got orders from somebody, you'd think, well, maybe they're 390 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: in charge. Maybe they're in charge for now, maybe they're 391 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: dead by the end of the day. I don't like 392 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: this order. I'm ignoring it. That's got to be happening sometimes. 393 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: Then this from a meet Siegel, the new Israeli rules 394 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: of engagement, proportionate responses are a thing of the past. 395 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: Now we understand we can't live with terrorists. He is 396 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: in Israeli and he talks about how on the night 397 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: of October sixth, twenty twenty three, the defense establishment realized 398 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: something was happening in Gaza, but failed to act because 399 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: there had been quiet in recent years, and nobody wanted 400 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: to be fingered for the guy who disrupted the quiet 401 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: by being overly aggressive or anything like that. Decades of containment, 402 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: restraint and forbearans had made Israel slow to stir and 403 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: vulnerable in appearance, and then two and a half years later, 404 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: Israel stands at the pinnacle of its power in the 405 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: Middle East. As has been said many times, including around here. Yeah, 406 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: Hamas who was seeking a change the look of the 407 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: Middle East. Well they succeeded, all right. But I love 408 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: this and I want you to think about this in 409 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: terms of the United States security. So it talks about 410 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: preemptive action versus the IDF, the Israel defense for us 411 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: being strictly defensive, and how most of the great things 412 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: that have happened for Israel have been preemptive or that 413 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: sort of thing. But anyway, the point of it, the 414 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: terrible price of a defensive posture, was reveeled on October seventh. 415 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: These are the new rules of the game. One, the 416 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: enemy exists in one of two states, either pursuer or pursued. 417 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: For years, Israel shot away from targeted killings, granted dare 418 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: leaders and Marianian officials the time and peace of mind 419 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: to plot against the Jewish state. The IDF's new mindset 420 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: is the exact opposite. If terrorists are running for their lives, 421 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: they can't make plans to take ours. Two, when enemies 422 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: announced their intention to destroy you believe them. It isn't 423 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: election rhetoric, they don't have elections. Isn't service or empty 424 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: words death to American death. Israel are mission statements. Clearly, 425 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: We've we talked about this a lot for years, just 426 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: how we ended up in this situation where Israel or 427 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: the United States are the free world put up with Well, 428 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: you can fire in you know, a hundred rockets, and 429 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, because we got the ability to knock them down, 430 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: we'll just let it go. Or how about that period 431 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: of time where the Houthis were firing all those ships 432 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: from all kinds of different countries and so you just 433 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: couldn't ship stuff through there. Why does the world put 434 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: up with that? Well, maybe the world's not gonna put 435 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: up with that anymore, exactly, exactly. Yeah, and remember Hamas 436 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: the Houthis has a lot that's Iran. Yeah, it's all 437 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: around another point, there can be no modus vivendi with 438 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: terrorist organizations. Now I'm Latino, so I'm fluent in Latin. 439 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: But if you're not. It's a gentleman's agreement. It's a 440 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: way of dealing with murderous ambitions can't be soothed soothed 441 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: with gentlemen's agreements, international guarantees, can incentives. Israel tried this 442 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: in Gaza and the result was catastrophic. That's talking about 443 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: the two year period where Hamas said publicly, Hey, you know, 444 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: the whole fight in Israel thing so old, We're just 445 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: gonna govern. Okay, Well, let's lift side by side, will 446 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: be cool, And the entire time they're plotting the horrors 447 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: of October seventh. Another new rule, when you respond, overwhelm 448 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: your foe. For years, the enemy fired rockets and Israel 449 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: replied with proportional force. This normalized the firing on civilians, kidnappings, 450 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: and invasions. But this changed on October seventh. After October seventh, 451 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: when Hasan Israela thought he was playing by the old rules, 452 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: launched a few rockets daily. It ended with his elimination, 453 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: the detect decapitation of his organization, and the destruction of 454 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: eighty percent of their missile stockpile. Two more new rules, 455 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: fundamentalists accumulate weapons to use them, not to deter. For years, 456 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: Israel ignored the vast ammunition depots in gazin Lebanon, under 457 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: the assumption that they would simply rust they didn't. And 458 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: when you are on the strong side, the enemy is 459 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: the one who should fear a miscalculation. In other words, 460 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: as you've been saying for a long time in reference 461 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: to Ukraine, how about they're afraid we escalate. Are you 462 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: ready to hear about the iatolas junk? No, that's actually 463 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: have a feeling you're gonna tell us anyway, it's actually 464 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: the son of the Iyatola, So to me, this seem 465 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: might be the new guy, so his junk is definitely 466 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: more relevant on the international scene, the global scene. What 467 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: do you call fake oppo research? It's a thing, especially 468 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: happens during wartime, where you get stuff out there just 469 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: to like discredit people. If you've ever heard any references 470 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: to Hitler having one Ball, that was a made up 471 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: song by people who hated Hitler just to like discredit him, 472 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: like poke fun at him, to mock him, there's no, 473 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: it's not based in anything. It's just a and I 474 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: think this might be that about the Iyatola's son, who's 475 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: supposedly next in line. Anyway, I don't know where it 476 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: came from, the son of Iran's slain leader, the Ietola, 477 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: reportedly the favorite to succeed his despotic father was treated 478 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: for impotency so severe that he had to be hospitalized 479 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: numerous times. Diplomatic Leak's show hospitalized for impotency. This seems 480 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: crazy to us as propaganda, But in that part of 481 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: the that's yeah, that's part of the world. That's why 482 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: everybody's got a big, bushy beard and they diet to 483 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: look young and virile. Saddam Hussein at his bushy black 484 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: mustache died. Well, that's that's what made me think of it. Yeah, 485 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: I know in that part of the world, the whole 486 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: being manly is really really a big deal, and so 487 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: saying this guy can't get it up for a for 488 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: his wife or a girlfriend is really a shot at someone. 489 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: So somebody wanted to discredit him, and the New York 490 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: Post runs with it as this is a real story. 491 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: This Machaba Kamaini, he's fifty six years old, underwent several 492 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: stints of treatment at the these hospitals at names here 493 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: after having a hard time conceiving with his wife. According 494 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: to Wiki Leaks in the two thousands, this is this says, 495 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: I maybe it's true, I don't know. I still think 496 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: it was an attempt to just discredit him by someone. 497 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: The regime hardliner was reportedly so soft that he checked 498 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: into clinics at least four times, including a stay that 499 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: lasted two months before he was able to knock up 500 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: his wife two months and it goes in two months, 501 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: and it goes back to previous girlfriends he had that 502 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: were allegedly unsatisfied also, So this is just a this 503 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: is just a rumor that got out there somebody who 504 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 1: didn't want him to be the next diatola that he 505 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: can't even get it up. He's so soft, he had 506 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: to be in the hospital for two months. What well, 507 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: let's run it up the flagpole. How let's let's say 508 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: he's a cross dresser and they have a I cook 509 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: up some pictures of him. Couldn't hurt, right? How about that? 510 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: When the guy's name Machaba, that sounds like some sort 511 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: of hipster tea drink that you know your your hippies, right, 512 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: it's a combination of matcha and boba. I'm gonna have 513 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: a chaime of chop, right, and it's nine dollars. What 514 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: nine dollars? That's what we charge for these things. So 515 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: you can see they're very popular. My kids on the 516 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: match of bandwagon every time I get in when it's 517 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: like seven and a half bucks is so expensive and 518 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Lisa doesn't have those 519 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: gross balls in the bottom, like, oh, you guys, it's 520 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: all about the balls, Ayatola's son. Oh yeah, it's all 521 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: about the pearls. Oh so disgusting. Oh the can can 522 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: have one too often though, because you know, Papa gets 523 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: fat pretty easily, so they're fattening a lot of calories. Yeah. 524 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: First time I had one of those come up through 525 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: the straw, I thought it was gonna vomit on a style. 526 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: It's so gross. Rat had lost an eyeball in there. 527 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: The consistency of those things. Yes, Katie, I'm with Joe. 528 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: Love the balls. Oh they're gross, nhs, just so squeeze. 529 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: Do you see what's the rats? I got in there somehow? 530 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: What's your flavorite choice there, Katie? I like, yeah, that one, 531 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: the mango milk teaese with that, Yeah, exotic. I'm a 532 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: tie tie Chai tea tai chi huh. I think it's 533 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: chai tea. I think that's what I like. Have you 534 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: ever just tried my wife fast to tell me every time? 535 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: Have you ever just tried a lipt in sun tea. 536 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: It's very it's delicious, but balls you you're talking sometime gross. 537 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: We got the mail bag on the way next to you. 538 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: If you are white, you're spreading the white virus, whether 539 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: you know it or not. According to James Tallerico, that 540 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: complete nut job who just won an election down in 541 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: Texas the other day, we need to talk more about 542 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: this guy. I think the proper response is f you, sir, hmmm, 543 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: and the horse you rode in on. Here's your freedom 544 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: loving quote of the day, continuing our series about war 545 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, both pros and cons just philosophizing about conflict, 546 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: is from John Adams. I must study politics and war 547 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. 548 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: I love that quote. Yeah, it reminds me of the 549 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: paraphrased quote of or Well about you know, people can 550 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: only sleep in their beds at night because rough men 551 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: stand ready to do violence on their behalf. The only 552 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: problem with that quote is that it almost states that, 553 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: so then the next generation does get to study mathematics 554 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: and philosophy and not worry about wark because it doesn't 555 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: work that way. Each generation needs to study war bec 556 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: it's all ever present. It's part of human nature. Yeah. Granted, 557 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: on the other hand, if anybody ever stops studying politics 558 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: and war, there's no freaking way their kids they're going 559 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: to be studying mathematics and philosophy. But yeah, your point 560 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: is a good one. And then finally this Dwight Eisenhower. 561 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: I hate war as only a soldier who has lived 562 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: it can only as one who has seen its brutality, 563 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: its futility. It's stupidity. Amen to that mailbag. There is 564 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of stupidity in war. It's just awful. 565 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: It's just part of the deal. Yeah, and a tremendous 566 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: amount of profit too, which yeah, I think perverts some 567 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: people's thinking about it. But topic for another day. It's 568 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: rather complicated. Drums an oat mail bag at Armstrong and 569 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: Giddy dot com. Man, we have a lot and we 570 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: can never get to half of it, or it's a 571 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: tenth of it. But I love this from Jennifer Guys. 572 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: The framing of the attack on Oriyon is a war 573 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: of choice by pacifists in the media is a false dichotomy. 574 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: This framing assumes there is nothing other than a choice 575 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: for war. I flat out disagree. All wars and military 576 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: actions are non actions for that matter, are wars of choice. 577 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: Past administrations have made the choice of inaction and or 578 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 1: palettes of cash. With regard to Iran, I regul have 579 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: the choices discussion with my kids, and she goes into 580 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: examples from real life which are good. But for the 581 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: purpose of time, I'll go into Ukraine being invaded by Russia. 582 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: Ukraine absolutely had a choice to lay down their arms 583 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: and be swallowed whole, or to fight, how to fight, 584 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: where to fight. The bombing of Pearl Harbor World War 585 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: two in Europe. We could have made different choices which 586 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 1: would have invariably had different outcomes. Every day we are 587 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: weighing and calculating variables and deciding which direction to take. 588 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: All past administrations have done the same thing and made 589 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: various choices with regards to Iran. Trump just made the 590 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: choice to take a different approach. What the consequences of 591 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: that approach will be remain to be seen. Brilliant stuff. Wow, Jennifer, 592 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: keep the emails coming, Marina from San Diego morning. Guys. 593 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: The Dems are morons to say Trump didn't let them 594 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: know anything ahead of the strike. The dem who actually 595 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: had a brain injury is the only one with a 596 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: functioning brain. I think she's referring to Senator Fetterman. The 597 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: others don't have a working brain between them. You've said 598 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: Trump made this decision alone. Technically true, but he did 599 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: not make an event. He's surrounded by the best military 600 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: minds and he told the Gang of eight that the 601 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: time is now, which is true. And who didn't know 602 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: that the s was going to go down when most 603 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: of our navy and planes were heading to the Persian Gulf. 604 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: This is definitely not going to be an exercise. Like 605 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: you both were saying, Oh, it didn't mean that he 606 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: didn't have advisors. It's the idea that he made the call, 607 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: and that's not The question is whether or not that's 608 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: the way what the constitution intended that he gets to 609 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: make that call on his own right. Also, my sixteen 610 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: year old son laughed hard when you called Britain's Prime 611 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: minister a little bit. He's getting a head start on 612 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: next year's government class. My sixteen year old would have 613 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: laughed at that too. Yeah, he is, Ah, let's see. 614 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: Oh I love this, I love this. I'm all for 615 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: people expressing themselves and trying to find themselves, you know, 616 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: especially adolescents. I once had an air ring to my 617 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: horror and a fro. But this from Adam from slowly 618 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: turning purple. Idaho, Good Lord, not you, Idaho. We don't 619 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: have time for this. This is because this is solid 620 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: gold email age gold. Jerry, we got three slapping it 621 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: out of my hand. Michael, you're constant yelling about the club. 622 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: You slapping it out of your hand. It can stay 623 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: on your hand. Hour two, hour two. It will still 624 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: be in your hand, all right. And we'll get to 625 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: that and other stuff. And if you miss a segment 626 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: or now, or you can get our podcast Armstrong. You 627 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: getdy on demand. You should subscribe to it so you 628 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: don't miss a single thing. Stay too, Armstrong and Getty