WEBVTT - How Do I Start a New Job on the Right Foot?

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<v Speaker 1>That's my colleagues. We'll start commenting on everything I get

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<v Speaker 1>my assistant eyes at people and meeting. Why does my

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<v Speaker 1>coworker keep taking credit for all my idea? Have any

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom for me? Hi? I'm Alison Green. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Aska Manager podcast, where I answer questions from listeners about

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<v Speaker 1>life at work, everything from what to say if you're

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<v Speaker 1>allergic to your coworkers perfume to what to do if

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<v Speaker 1>you drink too much at the company party. Let's get started.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting a new job can be nerve racking, getting to

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<v Speaker 1>know a bunch of new people and new information, learning

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<v Speaker 1>a new culture, making a good impression, figuring out new expectations,

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<v Speaker 1>all while you're still figuring out where the bathrooms are

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<v Speaker 1>and where to get a good burrito for lunch. Our

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<v Speaker 1>guest today is about to start a new job and

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<v Speaker 1>she has questions. Hi, and welcome to the show. Hi. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me, Thanks for being here. So you

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<v Speaker 1>are about to start a new job and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a while since you were the new person somewhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have a bunch of questions that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk through, all centered around getting off on the right

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<v Speaker 1>foot at the new place. Does that about sum it up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's absolutely right. I've been in my curtel for about

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<v Speaker 1>five years and UM in the industry for about ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is just very new to me. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>um for for a while anyway. I haven't started a

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<v Speaker 1>new job in a while, so I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure I get going right. It's weird to start a

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<v Speaker 1>new job, I think, after you've been somewhere else for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. So I'm going to give you a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of general advice about starting a new job, and then

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<v Speaker 1>let's dive into your specific questions. If that sounds good, perfect, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that one big thing to frame the

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<v Speaker 1>whole conversation around is don't get overwhelmed. And at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, you are going to get overwhelmed because there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a huge amount of new information getting

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<v Speaker 1>thrown at you during your first week, everything from who

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to about the retirement planned how to actually

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<v Speaker 1>do your job, and you are not going to retain

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<v Speaker 1>all of it, and that is completely normal. So don't

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<v Speaker 1>panic if you feel like you can't remember everything that

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<v Speaker 1>is coming at you. It would be really surprising if

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<v Speaker 1>you could remember it all. I don't think i've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen a new hire who could remember everything they were

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<v Speaker 1>told during their first week. So don't freak out if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're not retaining everything, um not to

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<v Speaker 1>the extent that you can. It's smart to write things down,

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<v Speaker 1>and you should keep all that paperwork that they give

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<v Speaker 1>you on your first day. Like I think people never

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<v Speaker 1>look at it again after day one, But actually, if

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<v Speaker 1>you hold onto it unlike your third or fourth week,

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<v Speaker 1>you should pull it out again and take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at it then, because you're much more likely to retain

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<v Speaker 1>more of it than it's going to have more meaning

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<v Speaker 1>to you once you have a bit of a structure

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<v Speaker 1>built in your brain to sort of place it all

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<v Speaker 1>in at that point. If that makes sense, Yeah, it does.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it's three or four weeks in, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still appropriate to go back and ask more questions, right, absolutely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And really, I mean I think in most jobs it

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<v Speaker 1>takes at least a few months to feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're doing and not realizing that you have

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<v Speaker 1>constant questions that you need to ask someone. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's even more like six months, depending on the job.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're a month in and you still feel

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<v Speaker 1>a little over your head and you still realize you

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<v Speaker 1>have questions. That is completely normal, and in the vast

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<v Speaker 1>majority of cases that is going to go away in time.

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<v Speaker 1>There's usually a point later where suddenly you realize that

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<v Speaker 1>everything has clicked and you're in a flow, but it

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<v Speaker 1>takes a few months for most people. Yeah, bet great.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, related to feeling overwhelmed, take notes because you

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<v Speaker 1>are going to have all these details coming at you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're there's no way you're going to remember all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>so just like carry something to take notes with you

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere you go. You know, I think I say that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know a lot of people religiously take notes

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<v Speaker 1>and then never look at them again. Of those, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>there is something for some people about the act of

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<v Speaker 1>writing things down that does seem to lodge it in

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<v Speaker 1>your brain a little bit more than if you never

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it down. So I still think there's some benefit

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<v Speaker 1>to doing it, even if you aren't really good about

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<v Speaker 1>going back and looking at them. But this is a

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<v Speaker 1>time I think where like you know, the end of

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<v Speaker 1>your first week, beginning of your second week, pull out

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<v Speaker 1>the notes and take a look, because I bet there

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<v Speaker 1>will be something in there where you'll think, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so glad that I am remembering this. Yeah, definitely, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it just I'm this type of person, I'll write

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<v Speaker 1>a note and it'll just jog the whole conversation for

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<v Speaker 1>me when I look back at it. So that makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense exactly. And sometimes you might realize you didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a question about the topic at the time it was

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<v Speaker 1>being discussed when you were taking notes, but now a

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<v Speaker 1>week and a half in you have more context and

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to jog questions for you that you'll realize

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<v Speaker 1>you need to ask. Yeah, for sure. Let's see. Another

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<v Speaker 1>big thing is culture, So you want to really make

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<v Speaker 1>a point of paying attention to the office culture. Every

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<v Speaker 1>office is going to have these sort of unwritten rules

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<v Speaker 1>about how we do things here, and sometimes they're so

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<v Speaker 1>ingrained in the culture that people who work there can't

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<v Speaker 1>even spot them in order to articulate them to newcomers,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can tell when someone's not following them. So

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<v Speaker 1>for your first couple of months, I would say, pay

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of attention to help people operate, So like,

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<v Speaker 1>watch things like are they all exactly on time for

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<v Speaker 1>meetings to the minute, And it's a huge faux pat

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<v Speaker 1>to walk in a few minutes late or same thing

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<v Speaker 1>for time of arrival in the morning. Actually, some offices

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<v Speaker 1>are are pretty laws a fair about it, and others

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<v Speaker 1>are not. Um and stuff like, you know, do people

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<v Speaker 1>mainly use email or slack to communicate or do they

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<v Speaker 1>pop by in person? And how do they handle lunch?

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<v Speaker 1>And who gets copied on emails? All of those little

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<v Speaker 1>things about how the office operates that you really just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pick up by watching pay attention to that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff because you're going to learn it eventually anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you make a concerted point of watching for it

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning, I think it will help you learn

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<v Speaker 1>the culture more quickly, and you're it's going to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a more familiar environment where you fit in more

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<v Speaker 1>quickly as well. I hadn't even thought of that, a

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<v Speaker 1>little little office quirks that um, yeah, I've gotten used to,

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<v Speaker 1>And now that I'm looking back, I'm thinking, did I

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<v Speaker 1>set that example for the people who were new at

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<v Speaker 1>my last job? That's really interesting and it's I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to feel weird to you. It would feel

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<v Speaker 1>weird to anyone starting in a job, because you're so

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<v Speaker 1>used to the culture at your old office and you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see differences, and some of them will be

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<v Speaker 1>things that I bet you wouldn't have even thought of

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<v Speaker 1>if someone said, like, tell me about what your current

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<v Speaker 1>office is, like, what's the culture like? There are things

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<v Speaker 1>that are so ingrained and so unconscious that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even think to name them, but you're going to become

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<v Speaker 1>really aware of them at this next job because of

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<v Speaker 1>the contrast. Yeah, definitely. Well, I'm coming from a very

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<v Speaker 1>small company, um and where you know it's very casual

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<v Speaker 1>and going into a much more corporate office and there's

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of people in the building and um that that

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<v Speaker 1>alone is very overwhelming. But to consider each of those

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<v Speaker 1>cultural nuances within that larger corporation is is a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal for me. So that makes a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 1>to follow that. By the way, do you know if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be like in your own office or in

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<v Speaker 1>a cube or in an open office space? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know yet. Um I believe it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>cubical kind of situation. Okay, if it were a completely

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<v Speaker 1>open office, well, first of all, you would have my sympathies.

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<v Speaker 1>But second, if it were an open office, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say there's I think there's even more practices that you

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<v Speaker 1>would find that had evolved about how people work in

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<v Speaker 1>that space, like stuff like no one ever takes a

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<v Speaker 1>call and speaker phone if you're lucky, and and will

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<v Speaker 1>be really rate if you do, or just like modulating

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<v Speaker 1>their voices or so forth. So if you did end

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<v Speaker 1>up in a shared space, I would say, really watch

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<v Speaker 1>how people navigate that, right, because it's it's so easy

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<v Speaker 1>to run a foul of unspoken rules in that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of environment. Yeah, definitely. And then I think there is

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<v Speaker 1>a whole category of stuff about getting aligned with your boss.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you have a feel for your new boss yet, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a sense of what that relationship might

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<v Speaker 1>be like? Yeah, it seems um, very friendly, very open. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He both interviewed me with a very open and honest

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tone and then also called me um just

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago to welcome me once I did

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<v Speaker 1>formally accept and Um, so far seems really open, really

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<v Speaker 1>friendly and welcoming and consider it. He seems like he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, open to working with me and and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how we're going to work together. So I, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels good. He's really really good. Good. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so your boss may initiate this when you start. But

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't, sometime during your first week, try to

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<v Speaker 1>sit down with him and talk about what your goals

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<v Speaker 1>should be for you, like your first month and your

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<v Speaker 1>first six months, and ask if there are things that

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<v Speaker 1>you should be reading or reviewing or people you should

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<v Speaker 1>be meeting with to help you get up to speed.

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<v Speaker 1>That is stuff that your manager should proactively take care

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<v Speaker 1>of talking to you about, But that doesn't necessarily mean

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<v Speaker 1>that he will be has Some managers, many managers, really

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty bad at training and orienting people, and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily mean that's the sign of a bad manager.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think training is a whole separate skill set

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<v Speaker 1>unto itself, and some people are pretty decent managers, but

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<v Speaker 1>not super thoughtful trainers. So if you aren't getting this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff flowing at you from him, don't hesitate to raise

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<v Speaker 1>it on your own. Oh that's great. I've I've never

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<v Speaker 1>thought of that, of sitting down and just asking, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you expect of me for this particular time period,

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<v Speaker 1>But that would be actually really helpful for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>thrive on that kind of thing. We're having set goals

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<v Speaker 1>is really important to me, and meeting those goals or

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<v Speaker 1>exceeding those goals. Just it's a feel good moment for

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<v Speaker 1>me and also shows them what I can do. I

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<v Speaker 1>really like that idea good. Yeah, And I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's this weird feeling when you're new at a job

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<v Speaker 1>where you're just kind of floating and you're not anchored

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<v Speaker 1>to any specific expectations yet the way that you might

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<v Speaker 1>be six months down the road often always and it

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<v Speaker 1>can be hard to know, like I feel really overwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I even doing an okay job? Am I where

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<v Speaker 1>they would expect me to be? Or am I really

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<v Speaker 1>messing those up? And if you have, if you've talked

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<v Speaker 1>explicitly like Okay, here is what we are expecting from

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<v Speaker 1>your first month, your first three months, your first six months,

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<v Speaker 1>then you do have something to anchor those feelings against

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll be able to tell, Okay, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>like I should accomplish a B, C and D in

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<v Speaker 1>my first month, and I'm on track to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to take away some of that free

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<v Speaker 1>floating anxiety that I think otherwise can be really common

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<v Speaker 1>when you're new. Well, that sounds great. Along the same lines,

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<v Speaker 1>don't hesitate to ask your manager questions about anything. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to ask what can I look at to

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<v Speaker 1>get a better understanding of X? Or with this project

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<v Speaker 1>that you're asking me to do, are there samples of

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<v Speaker 1>this type of project from the past that I could

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<v Speaker 1>look at to see how it's been approached previously? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>really anything like that is I mean, if I were

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<v Speaker 1>your manager and you're asked me those questions, I would

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<v Speaker 1>be thrilled. So don't be shy about doing that. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's also totally okay to check in with your boss

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<v Speaker 1>and aska things are going. Like after you've been there

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks, maybe two or three weeks, you

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<v Speaker 1>can check in with him and you can ask if

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<v Speaker 1>there's anything he wants you doing differently, or if there

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<v Speaker 1>are areas where he wants you to focus in more.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, that is stuff that he should tell you proactively.

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<v Speaker 1>But not all managers are on the ball with that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, or some just take longer to get

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<v Speaker 1>around to it. So by you asking the question and

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<v Speaker 1>making it clear that you really welcome feedback, you can

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes get useful input earlier and sometimes often actually it's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna be, Yeah, everything is going great, you're picking

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<v Speaker 1>up what we want you to pick up and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really nice to have that reassurance. Oh yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's honestly one of the reasons that I'm leaving my

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<v Speaker 1>current company is I never got feedback, or if I

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<v Speaker 1>got feedback, it's really only felt negative. Um. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody wants to feel like they're doing a good

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<v Speaker 1>job sometimes and um, so I was ready for something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And one of the things that sold me

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<v Speaker 1>on my new job is, um, they actually showed me

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about their feedback formula and it's basically

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<v Speaker 1>a three segment This is what you're doing, good, keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. This is something that I can deal with,

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<v Speaker 1>but like from a manager's perspective, but you could improve

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<v Speaker 1>upon it, and these are deal breakers I need to change.

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<v Speaker 1>And what they told me is that most people never

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<v Speaker 1>have anything on that third part, but it's there in

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<v Speaker 1>case we do come across that. And it was just

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<v Speaker 1>really reassuring to see that they have a formalized standard

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<v Speaker 1>for giving that feedback, both good and bad. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that because it says that they're being really intentional

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<v Speaker 1>about making it a normal, ongoing part of their culture

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not going to be in office hopefully, where

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<v Speaker 1>the one time you get feedback is on your annual

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<v Speaker 1>performance evaluation in December exactly. And I never had a

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<v Speaker 1>performance evaluation with my old company, so super excited to

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<v Speaker 1>have anything. You're like the only person in the world

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<v Speaker 1>he is excited about the prospect of a pervice evaluation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay. Now, I'm actually right there with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're they're really it's really helpful. Frankly, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break here and then come back and get

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<v Speaker 1>into your questions. You know. One other thing I would

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<v Speaker 1>say is, and we touched on this a little bit earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to really dry it out. Don't be

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<v Speaker 1>shy about asking for help when you need it, because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I think when people are new, they hesitate to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for help because they worry that it'll make them

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<v Speaker 1>look like they don't know what they're doing. But you're new,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's normal to not know exactly what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>People expect you to have questions and to need help,

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<v Speaker 1>and frankly, it's more alarming if a new person doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>ask any questions. And most people will be perfectly happy

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<v Speaker 1>to answer questions for you, especially if you save them

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<v Speaker 1>up in batches, you know, as opposed to peppering people

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the day with them, But most people will be

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<v Speaker 1>very open to it if you say, hey, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have ten or fifteen minutes later this week where I

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<v Speaker 1>could sit down with you and go over some of this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. One other thing kind of on that note,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know that there's another person in the

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<v Speaker 1>group who is going to be doing the exact same

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<v Speaker 1>work that I'm doing, and she's been doing it, of

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<v Speaker 1>course for longer, you know, would it be okay if

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<v Speaker 1>as I finish a part of a project or a project,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just say ask her, can you check this?

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure I'm doing it right. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>sound not confident, but I want to make sure before

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<v Speaker 1>I get too far ahead that I'm not just totally

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<v Speaker 1>screwing their system up. Yes, absolutely, I think for sure

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<v Speaker 1>the first one or two times that you do it absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not to continue doing it after the first

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<v Speaker 1>one or two times, I think depends on how complicated

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<v Speaker 1>and difficult the work is generally understood to be. Um, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But but you could ask that to you. You could say,

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<v Speaker 1>is this the kind of thing that would make sense

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<v Speaker 1>to have you do maybe for my first month or

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<v Speaker 1>does it make more sense to just do it my

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<v Speaker 1>my first one or two times? Okay, makes sense, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into your questions. Actually, one other thought

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<v Speaker 1>that I have that people don't always think about when

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<v Speaker 1>they start a new job is to avoid getting drawn

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<v Speaker 1>into office clicks or office politics. I mean, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be friendly to people, of course, but just have

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of your head that you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>all of the context yet and you can't truly understand

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<v Speaker 1>what might be going on in a particular disagreement or

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<v Speaker 1>a particular conflict, and you can harm your own standing

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<v Speaker 1>if you take a side prematurely. So in your first

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<v Speaker 1>month or so, if people try to get you to

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<v Speaker 1>weigh in on any office conflicts, I would stay neutral.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is especially true if you hear anyone bad

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<v Speaker 1>mouth and your boss or bad moth in anyone really,

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<v Speaker 1>because it could be that they're right, but maybe you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking to the office slacker or the person with the

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<v Speaker 1>worst judgment in the company and you don't know it

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<v Speaker 1>yet because you're new. So I would just say avoid

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<v Speaker 1>waiting into that kind of thing for a while. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes a lot of sense. I hadn't even thought

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<v Speaker 1>of that. All the office gossip, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to deal with it. It's I think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>easy to get ensnared into it early on because someone

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<v Speaker 1>starts being friendly and you think, oh great, someone's being friendly,

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<v Speaker 1>and then before you know it, you're being pulled into

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of conversation. Yeah. Yeah, I'll be cognizant of

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<v Speaker 1>that for sure. Well, so that is my initial monologue here.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that all make sense? Is there anything you want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask about there before we get into your list

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<v Speaker 1>of questions? No? I think it's Um, it's really helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>I Like I said, it's just been so long that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I am I'm ingrained in in what

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and now I'm going into a totally unknown

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<v Speaker 1>situation and things have probably really changed since I last

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<v Speaker 1>started a job. So this is really helpful for sure. Good, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what's on your list? Oh, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>good one. How do I introduce myself to my new coworkers? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the elevator talk has always been something I've really

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<v Speaker 1>struggled with, kind of that first burst of explaining who

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<v Speaker 1>I am. What's the best way to do that that

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<v Speaker 1>exudes confidence but not arrogance. I that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>If your office is good about this, your manager or

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<v Speaker 1>someone else is going to do a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>introductions for you. But if that doesn't happen, or if

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't happen with everyone, it's totally okay for you

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<v Speaker 1>to just initiate it yourself. You can literally just walk

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<v Speaker 1>up to someone and say hi, I'm Jane Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the new graphic designer or whatever your role is,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you say I just wanted to introduce myself

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<v Speaker 1>and say hi, and then you can kind of tailor

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<v Speaker 1>it from there, Like if it's someone who you think

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be working with pretty closely, you could say, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we'll probably be doing a lot of work together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to sit down and talk through any upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>projects anytime you want, or anything along those lines. But

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<v Speaker 1>people are usually going to take it from there. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>introduce themselves, they'll welcome you. Some people will stop there

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<v Speaker 1>at that point. For them, the introduction is done and

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<v Speaker 1>then they're going back to work and that's it. But

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<v Speaker 1>other people will ask you questions like what you were

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<v Speaker 1>doing before this or so forth, So just watch for

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<v Speaker 1>cues from them, because you'll usually get a feel for

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<v Speaker 1>whether someone wants extended conversation or not. If you can't tell,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not somewhere like the elevator where obviously they

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to instantly turn back to their laptop, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, if you can't tell, assume they're busy. Say

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<v Speaker 1>something like it was great meeting you, I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to working with you. But generally people will be pretty

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<v Speaker 1>friendly and will make this pretty easy for you. And

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<v Speaker 1>if someone doesn't, I would assume that is more about them,

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<v Speaker 1>not about you. You may have just found the office grump. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. And then on the same note, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any informational no notes like stuff that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to share right away? Um? I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff maybe about my previous company if it were negative,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not particularly negative. But all dead leave for or

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<v Speaker 1>a reason or anything personal. Is there anything that I

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<v Speaker 1>just shouldn't divold right away for some reason? I would

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<v Speaker 1>avoid bad mouthing your old company or getting into heavy

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<v Speaker 1>details about why you left, so like if you left

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<v Speaker 1>because you couldn't get a raise, or your manager sucked,

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<v Speaker 1>or your job had become horribly boring. Don't get into

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff people. You know, people won't usually ask why

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<v Speaker 1>you left anyway, although they might ask what drew you

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<v Speaker 1>to this job, the new one, or the new company.

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<v Speaker 1>And if anyone does ask why you left and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really want to get into it, a good answer

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<v Speaker 1>is to just respond with why you came to this

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<v Speaker 1>new one. Or you could just say like, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there five years, I was ready for something new.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't say that if you were only there you

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<v Speaker 1>or a year or two, that would sound odd, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think you actually were there for a while. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>I was yep, I was there for just over five years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so something like you know, i've been there five years,

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<v Speaker 1>I was excited to do something new, and this job

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<v Speaker 1>appealed to me because of blank that works perfectly well,

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<v Speaker 1>and other topics I would have avoid. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>only ones are really the ones that you would avoid

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<v Speaker 1>with like a client. So no religion, no politics, no sex,

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<v Speaker 1>the usual off limits one but but nothing special just

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<v Speaker 1>because you're new. Well actually, I mean a caveat that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to overshare because once you've been there

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<v Speaker 1>a while and you've formed closer relationships with some people

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<v Speaker 1>you might find the e d talk to them in

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<v Speaker 1>a similar way to how you talk to friends outside

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<v Speaker 1>of work, Like you might share a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>about your dating life or your family, but while you're new,

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<v Speaker 1>there's more of a danger of seeming to overshare before

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<v Speaker 1>you've really made those connections. So I think a good

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<v Speaker 1>litmus test is would I share this with a client

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<v Speaker 1>who I liked and had a warm relationship with, but

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<v Speaker 1>still had real professional boundaries up with. So be warm,

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<v Speaker 1>be friendly, don't feel like you have to hide major

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<v Speaker 1>things like having a spouse or having kids, But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, don't get really personal until there's more

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<v Speaker 1>of a foundation. You know people better. That's great, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really good, that's helpful. Um, And then I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier, I will be working with one person who

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<v Speaker 1>I think is about my age. I know she just

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<v Speaker 1>got married and we're gonna be doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe we're gonna be working a lot together. What's

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<v Speaker 1>a great way to start off on the right foot,

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<v Speaker 1>aside from just general niceties and don't be a jerk.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be a jerky is a good one. I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>be warm and friendly toward her, but pay attention to

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<v Speaker 1>her cues. If she is someone who is all business,

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<v Speaker 1>she's probably not up for a long conversation about Game

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<v Speaker 1>of Thrones, and that doesn't mean that she's being cold.

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<v Speaker 1>She might just be focused on getting you trained because

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<v Speaker 1>she's got other work that she has to get back to.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't take it personally if you're not getting signs

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<v Speaker 1>that she's open to chatting, but keep your tone warm

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<v Speaker 1>and really pay attention to the training that she's giving you.

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<v Speaker 1>Take notes and be engaged, because if you've ever trained anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how unsettling it is when the person you're

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<v Speaker 1>training isn't showing any external signs that they're getting it,

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<v Speaker 1>like taking notes or nodding or showing that it's registering.

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<v Speaker 1>So be the opposite of that. Do take notes and

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<v Speaker 1>do stay engaged. And that's a really good way to

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<v Speaker 1>get on the good side of someone who's training you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. Um. The other thing I think is that

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<v Speaker 1>you could ask her for her preferences for how you

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<v Speaker 1>work together, Like you could ask her if you expect

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have a lot of questions for her.

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<v Speaker 1>You could ask how she prefers you handle that. Does

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<v Speaker 1>she want them piecemeal? As they come up, does she

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<v Speaker 1>want you to save them up and ask them all

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<v Speaker 1>in a bunch once a day that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because that will show consideration for her. But really, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you're nice and you're paying attention, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it should go fine. Oh that's great. That makes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense. And that's really funny too, because as

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<v Speaker 1>I was training someone who's gonna be replacing some of

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<v Speaker 1>my duties at my last job, he actually fell asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Was training him. What did I do? Um? I just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mudged him and reminded him that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be here tomorrow. So so you were literally

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there next to him talking to him and he

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<v Speaker 1>fell asleep. Yeah, that was alarming. He's young, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he just I know, like the stuff was software stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know what's really boring. But it was just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the nodding, the head nodding kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh boy, I will say that. Years

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<v Speaker 1>and years ago, in my early twenties, I had been

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<v Speaker 1>in a job where I've been working from home for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, and so I got to keep

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<v Speaker 1>my own schedule. So I am by nature and night

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<v Speaker 1>owl and so I was working this ridiculous schedule where

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<v Speaker 1>I would sleep until like noon, I would get up,

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<v Speaker 1>I would work until late in the night. I was

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<v Speaker 1>working all the hours. I was just doing them at

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<v Speaker 1>odd times. Well, I changed positions within the organization and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to work from the office again. And my

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<v Speaker 1>first day in the office, it was after lunch, when,

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<v Speaker 1>of course you're always a little sleepier. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in my new manager's office and she was training

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<v Speaker 1>me just like in this situation. And I remember the

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<v Speaker 1>horror of realizing that I was like physically struggling to

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<v Speaker 1>keep my eyelids open and she could probably see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was mortifying. So hopefully this guy had the sense

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little embarrassed by it. I made sure

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a lot of notes and left a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of procedures, but it was it was interesting, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess maybe real number one, don't fall asleep. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to answer your question about how to get

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<v Speaker 1>off on a good foot with the person who's training you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've had a very good example of what

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<v Speaker 1>not to do, so I think I think so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>pause here for a quick word from a sponsor, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll come right back. What else is on your list?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the last thing I had was just how

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<v Speaker 1>do I get people to like me? I mean, it's um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been with this other company for five years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten to know the people who are going to

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<v Speaker 1>laugh at my jokes. I'm kind of a um jokester,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. But how do I make sure people like

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<v Speaker 1>me or at least don't hate me? Yeah? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it helps to think about what you have appreciated from

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<v Speaker 1>new colleagues who were the new hires in your old company,

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<v Speaker 1>because probably most of the time you were just hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that they are going to be a reasonably normal, nice

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<v Speaker 1>person without any horribly annoying habits, And so if you

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<v Speaker 1>show that you're that, that is going to get you

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the way there. It does help, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I think to make a point of getting to know people.

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<v Speaker 1>So even if you are someone who normally wouldn't spend

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time socializing with co workers, I think

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<v Speaker 1>during your first month or two it's helpful to put

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<v Speaker 1>in the effort to do it. Even if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep it up, doing it at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>can help. And so that just means stuff like asking

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<v Speaker 1>a co worker to get coffee with you or to

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<v Speaker 1>grab lunch, And if you feel weird about doing that

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<v Speaker 1>as a purely social overture, you can make it about work,

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<v Speaker 1>like you could say, hey, I'd love to learn more

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<v Speaker 1>about the work that you do, or you know, would

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<v Speaker 1>you want to grab coffee and talk to me about

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<v Speaker 1>project X, Y and Z, or even more low key.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not up for that, you can even just

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<v Speaker 1>ask people advice for things like where to get lunch

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>near the office, or where there's a good dry cleaners,

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>or people love to be asked for advice. And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really interesting. There is research that shows that

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<v Speaker 1>when someone is helpful to you or does you a favor,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually like you more afterward. Really yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting. So ask for advice and allegedly, according to science,

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<v Speaker 1>that will help people feel warm and fuzzy thoughts towards you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I like science. Yeah, awesome, Yeah, that's that's really

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<v Speaker 1>helpful And that makes a lot of sense. I mean,

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I I'm naturally a helpful person. I like to help

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<v Speaker 1>other people too, So that does write a line with

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what I want to be doing and and

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<v Speaker 1>how I want to be connecting with people. So that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes a lot of sense. You know, I am

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<v Speaker 1>someone who likes obviously to give advice um and and

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 1>likes to be helpful, and I can actually see it.

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I can see that at work. Like I when someone

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<v Speaker 1>takes the time to ask me for my opinion and

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<v Speaker 1>I take the time to give them advice and return,

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel good towards them. I feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they respected me enough to ask for my opinion, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we've sort of had this thing that we connected

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<v Speaker 1>over and I do have warm thoughts toward them afterward. Yes,

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 1>let's see other stuff, you know, low key stuff. Ask

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<v Speaker 1>about people's weekends, ask about the photos they have on

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>their desks, pick up on any mentions of common interests.

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>You know. One other thing to actually figure out if

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 1>there is a connector type in your office, like the

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<v Speaker 1>person who is the office social director, who's friendly with

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<v Speaker 1>everyone and always seems to be involved when anyone is

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>making plans. Make them one of the first people on

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 1>your list to ask the coffee because if you connect

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<v Speaker 1>with that person, that can be sort of an entry

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<v Speaker 1>point to other people too. And sometimes if you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>to that person that you are eager to get to

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 1>know other people that are they will kind of take

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>you under their wing and help you do it. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you spot someone like that, make a point of

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<v Speaker 1>making an overture towards them. Well interesting, Yeah, that hannut

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<v Speaker 1>that there's always somebody who's kind of the the connector

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<v Speaker 1>that per person who puts everybody together. That makes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sense to yeah, target that person. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>can do that. You know, one thing we haven't talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe it's not a question that you have, but

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<v Speaker 1>the question of what to wear on your first day?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you're set there in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>how dressed up to be? That is, um, that is

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>a perfect question that I have agonized over my office

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>for several years now. Has been casual and low key,

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<v Speaker 1>to the point of, you know, jeans and a sweatshirt

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<v Speaker 1>are perfectly appropriate, and so yeah, I actually went on

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a shopping spree and but all new

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<v Speaker 1>you know, business casual slacks and nice tops or dresses,

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>sweater dresses. It's Minnesota, so it's um a little cooler

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. But is there something that's most

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate for your first day of work? Kind of where

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<v Speaker 1>so your sense from being there for your interview, is

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<v Speaker 1>that their business casual as opposed to like formal business. Definitely. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>the the men um the senior level men were all

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<v Speaker 1>in suits mostly, and the women who are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of on my level, we're all wearing, you know,

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>slacks and a nice shirt scar for something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So definitely more business casual, not very formal, but not

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<v Speaker 1>the jeans and sweatshirts that I'm used to. Yeah, that

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>is a real change. Yeah, I think for your first day,

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<v Speaker 1>I might go just a very slight bit more formal

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<v Speaker 1>than you all the rest of the time. But like

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<v Speaker 1>if you would normally wear like nice pants and a

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<v Speaker 1>nice top, I might just fancy it up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you're someone who wears skirts, maybe you wear

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<v Speaker 1>a skirt that day. Maybe you just wear the nicest

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<v Speaker 1>of the new outfits that you've bought, Like just like

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<v Speaker 1>a fraction of a tad, nicer fraction of a tad.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's a unit of measurement, but

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I've made it one. Um, like just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more formal than what you're going to wear the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. But it sounds like you have a

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<v Speaker 1>good feel for what people in the office are wearing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've already assembled the clothes that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. Yeah, I think so. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see everyone, but I just see the people who

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<v Speaker 1>I would be mostly working with, And it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hard to gauge as a woman, knowing that you know

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<v Speaker 1>your superiors. The two senior people above me are men,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were both wearing suits when I'm up with them.

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<v Speaker 1>But the woman who I'm going to be working with,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking I kind of tried to match her style,

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<v Speaker 1>so whatever she was going with, I bought all of

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<v Speaker 1>that and that's smart. Um, And I wondered during the

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<v Speaker 1>hiring process, did you happen to interact with anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>was a woman, like anyone in recruiting or were you

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<v Speaker 1>only dealing with men just the woman who I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be working with directly. I had email and

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<v Speaker 1>phone conversations with the HR representatives who were women, But

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<v Speaker 1>aside from that, the only one I met is the

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<v Speaker 1>person that I'm actually gonna be working with. Okay, because

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to, you could email. Even the HR

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>person who you only talked to on the phone, you

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 1>could email her or you could email the coworker who

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<v Speaker 1>who you did meet, and you could just say hey,

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<v Speaker 1>from being there. My sense of the dress code is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's this, but I just want to run that

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<v Speaker 1>by you and make sure that that's right. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>only if you really feel like you don't know. If

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<v Speaker 1>if you're pretty confident that you know what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>then I think you're fine going with that. I'm pretty comfortable,

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>but that that is a good point. Um, And the

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<v Speaker 1>people in HR were very approachable and easy to call

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<v Speaker 1>and easy to talk to, so that that I could

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<v Speaker 1>do as well. That makes sense, And they get that

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<v Speaker 1>question all the time, so that's not going to seem weird. Okay, good,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good. Anything else that you're wondering about, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. I mean, I start in four days and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm um, I'm less nervous now. I've finished up my

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>past job, so I'm kind of just wrapping up. I've

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>got a couple of days off here, so I'm ready

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and we're in a go and this has been super helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel much more at ease about starting to meet

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<v Speaker 1>new people. I'm a little bit anxious when I meet

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<v Speaker 1>new people at first, but this has been really helpful. Good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll good. Great. Well, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on. Yes, thank you, Alison, I appreciate it.

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