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<v Speaker 1>On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we discussed we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about did we land on the Moon with Santana Moss.

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<v Speaker 1>I give you his thoughts on that. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>Sam HALLI traded to Seattle, Adam Peters, wheeling and dealing,

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<v Speaker 1>getting good value there, free agency, Frenzy, we got Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>muriol A, Keelian Fayler, Dante Fowler, Junior, Jeremy Chin. The

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<v Speaker 1>list goes on and on building this team, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got would you rather trade back or not to trade back?

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<v Speaker 1>That is the question you ain't first, He lays, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>on into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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<v Speaker 1>with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss and Tanna. When my

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<v Speaker 1>dad texted me to tell you something about the moon,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't find it in my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see the dirt.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to see the dirt.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see it, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. For those of you who don't know, we did

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<v Speaker 1>a segment where Tanna pretended to pretend to be a

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<v Speaker 1>draft got a question about the moon. He said he's

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if the moon is real or space.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I know space is there? Yeah, I wasn't. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I'm not a believer. Lan didn't move.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, and it was kind of a bit And

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to check that out, it's on the

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<v Speaker 1>Command Center show. So I checked that out on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>But my dad made my dad made a comment about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So in honor of my dad's comments, I wore this

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<v Speaker 1>shirt today, which is the moon.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what, I would have never thought that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, bringing as your dady is and he had

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<v Speaker 4>asketronaut and all the stuff heat.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, how did he feel just having you?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great question. So it's funny because like in

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<v Speaker 1>my family, I got like a bunch of like really

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<v Speaker 1>smart people like my you.

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<v Speaker 2>A football player?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm like yeah, So I go to like

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<v Speaker 1>family dinners and my uncle's a lawyer, my dad's an

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<v Speaker 1>aerospace engineers not my grandpa was a doctor, my my

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<v Speaker 1>other grandfather was an architect.

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<v Speaker 5>All of them. You made it to the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>And so like what does it mean to play football?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're like, Okay, hey, that's big man. Should

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<v Speaker 2>be proud.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like that bitch when you come into keys, come

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<v Speaker 4>to dumb me at the family.

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<v Speaker 5>I only went to u c l A.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a public school.

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<v Speaker 5>You're probably only public school.

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<v Speaker 2>The family.

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<v Speaker 5>To my god, you feel you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's all I said.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't listen to Bro, don't listen to Fred. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, we're trying to be little. I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>get what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 3>He's saying when you look at those those different you know,

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<v Speaker 3>qualifications they have.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>If I was just governor and he's like, yeah, I play,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so let's get to it. Lots of moves

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<v Speaker 1>for Washington, lots of quarterback moves. Specifically, what year was

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<v Speaker 1>this draft? What year was samehollow draft? Two years ago?

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<v Speaker 5>Two years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's twenty twenty one, right, So of those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>only one guy is really on the same team. There

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<v Speaker 1>are no it is a rock party.

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<v Speaker 5>Party, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Trevor Lawrence one.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, you're thinking of Justin.

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<v Speaker 4>This is this is Dan, Sam Half, Jenny Pickett, Knty Picket.

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<v Speaker 4>All these guys are gone, Brock, Matt Carrel.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about that twenty twenty one draft. We

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<v Speaker 3>were just talking about all those quarterbacks being traded.

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<v Speaker 1>So samhow obviously traded to Seattle, YEP for a fourth

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<v Speaker 1>round pick, a Herd third round pick, Great desbt Reater,

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<v Speaker 1>traded to the Cardinals for Rondell Moore. Never play a game,

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny Pickett and so and the number four and their

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<v Speaker 1>fourth pick one twenty to the Eagles for what I

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<v Speaker 1>don't eve understand. I read this ninety eight and two

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<v Speaker 1>seventh and two picks in twenty twenty five. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>do it again, read it, Jason, I don't got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the juice for.

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<v Speaker 6>That, all right, can you pick it? And a fourth which.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the so they sent that right, was.

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<v Speaker 6>Sent to the Eagles for the Eagles second that's the

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<v Speaker 6>ninety eighth pick, and then two twenty five seventh round picks.

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<v Speaker 1>The second is one is ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 6>Their second rounder is ninety eight. Yeah, that doesn't make sense,

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<v Speaker 6>any sense. It could have been a typo, it could

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<v Speaker 6>have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yeah, let's google. Let's get that fact check

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<v Speaker 1>real quick. So, just talking through that, obviously not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of value necessarily for these players. I think Sam

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<v Speaker 1>has the most value. Fred, you were talking about justin

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<v Speaker 1>fields too, and I think even it's interesting that Sam's

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<v Speaker 1>trade value was more than justin fields. So obviously team's value,

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<v Speaker 1>but what does that say about Hey, the quarterback evaluation

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of the NFL is.

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<v Speaker 4>Like stocks by low say a hat we we bom

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<v Speaker 4>we sold him hat. And and one thing about the

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<v Speaker 4>Chicago because of their word each uh, they're stop depleted.

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<v Speaker 1>You were talking about this earlier on the Ticket of

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<v Speaker 1>the Draft podcast. You can also check that out. Fred

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<v Speaker 1>does a great job there analyzing that on the on

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast. But kind of go to that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I just felt like the thing about it is because

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<v Speaker 4>Ryan Poles came out and see it.

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<v Speaker 5>Once he said that we are going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Trade, he automatically dropped the stock you can get like

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<v Speaker 4>you want. Like if I really wanted to get the

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<v Speaker 4>highest drail pick I could for him. I either had

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<v Speaker 4>to trade him early. I got to trade him late.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't trade him in between, though, Like think about.

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<v Speaker 1>This, like before the announced you're saying yes before the announcement.

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<v Speaker 4>I either wait till the season start because every year

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<v Speaker 4>we watch out the week one somebody quarterback is hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>And now I can literally say, give me a second

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<v Speaker 4>rounder for this guy, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, because now you at my mercy.

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<v Speaker 4>So I thought what Chicago did was self sabotage themselves

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<v Speaker 4>by talking too much. Right, A lot of people would

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<v Speaker 4>have traded for Justin Fields before free agency started. But

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<v Speaker 4>once you let free agency start and you let Russell

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<v Speaker 4>Wilson side, and then the domino start to fall, you're

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<v Speaker 4>not left with enough suitors.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you better against yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Or or It's like if you ever watched the like

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<v Speaker 3>that's the CNBC when they're talking about stock market, got

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<v Speaker 3>the guy Kramer who everyone hates. Yeah, and as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as he says a stock is good, high depletes and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, oh my god. I feel like Justin Field

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<v Speaker 3>had some of that effect. I means, soon as they

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<v Speaker 3>got on him and started talking about where his value

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<v Speaker 3>should be at, you start, you know, fading away, and

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<v Speaker 3>then before you know it, they got to dump him.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean everyone knew that he was going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to go somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you almost we was almost one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>sure that Chicago was not going to get missed out

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<v Speaker 3>on that chance of getting Caleb Williams or whoever they

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<v Speaker 3>had maybe been in that spot. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the should have just got rid of him way ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of time than sitting there waiting and hold it on

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<v Speaker 3>to him, you know what I mean. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I still feel that he's in a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good spot. I feel like now he's in a better

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<v Speaker 3>spot than because now you have a team that can

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<v Speaker 3>win and they might you know, I can't say, Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that staff, especially the new you know or oc,

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to allow him to be yourself. Arthur Smith

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<v Speaker 3>style of offense is going to allow him to be itself.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's gonna be interested in watching him and rust

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<v Speaker 3>over there. But he's in a great spot.

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<v Speaker 5>You not so much like the spot, So.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think I liked the spot for Justin Fields.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little confused about what the goal was

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<v Speaker 1>for Pittsburgh, but after we talked through it on the

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<v Speaker 1>Ticket to the Draft podcast, it became a little more

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<v Speaker 1>clear to me. Like I'm like, what's the value because

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to lose him, Like he's going to hit

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<v Speaker 1>free agency, right and so like he's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the building. But like you were saying, you

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<v Speaker 1>have kind of a year trial period to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>say this is what he does well, he can work

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<v Speaker 1>with Arthur Smith, and we had to have that inside track,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. We talked about the draft a lot, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the things that's hard is you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how the guy is going to fit in your culture,

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<v Speaker 1>and so here you get him for a six round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy with a lot of talent, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>potential to kind of see that road map. And for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was kind of silly initially before we

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<v Speaker 1>started talking, because I was like, man, you just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of threw away this pick. He's going to leave next year.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not necessarily true. You could work the Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>love thing, work an extension instead of signing his fifth

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<v Speaker 1>year option, and maybe have a guy long term and

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Smith offense. That's that kind of could potentially work

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<v Speaker 1>for him.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked a little bit about how that system in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of throwing over the middle of the field, it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't always right.

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<v Speaker 2>For him, but they evolved.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what I'm saying, if he's been in the

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<v Speaker 1>system for a year, maybe you get there, you feel

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<v Speaker 1>good about it. But the thing I wanted to bring

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<v Speaker 1>up is do you think I thought when Kenny Pickett

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<v Speaker 1>went for what he did, which is essentially they the

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh gave up a fourth and Kenny Pickett, yeah for

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<v Speaker 1>a third and two sevenths in twenty twenty five, which

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<v Speaker 1>is basically like a pick swap that that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>set the quarterback value, you know what I'm saying, That

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<v Speaker 1>kind of set the market. So once that happened, it

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<v Speaker 1>became abundantly clear that there was no second round pick

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<v Speaker 1>for Justin Fields. There was no third round pick for

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Fields, like it was gonna be some type of

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<v Speaker 1>pick swap.

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<v Speaker 5>Plains West.

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<v Speaker 4>Sam how Get gets the third with a pick swap,

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<v Speaker 4>like nobody would have seen it two years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>At all these quarterbacks, Sam Howe would have been the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's the other thing that we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this two ten. I like to get your thoughts on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Fred, we talked about this already. Your

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<v Speaker 1>price point with Sam is controlled I think for two

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<v Speaker 1>more years, right, Unlike Justin who was a free agent,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that he this year, he has a little more runway, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's probably a big factor in That's.

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<v Speaker 3>A big factor. And then also you're looking at what

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<v Speaker 3>you're getting. You're getting a guy that's young, that just

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<v Speaker 3>gave you a full year and showed you that thousand

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<v Speaker 3>yards that that you kind of like unsure where his

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<v Speaker 3>his sibling, you know what I mean, Like like if

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<v Speaker 3>you look at the one part of that season last year,

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, oh, man, he had something, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>late part of the scene like did he hit a wall?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Or did they just leave him out there to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hang him out of the dry.

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<v Speaker 3>So any team should have went at, you know, saying that, man,

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<v Speaker 3>we bringing a guy in that potentially could start this year.

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<v Speaker 3>But if anything, is gonna be a great backup.

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<v Speaker 4>At the least, he's a the twenty ninth started in

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL. Like he's he's a starting quarterback in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think he's just gonna fill in it old

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<v Speaker 4>that hassle.

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<v Speaker 5>Back slot over his body. Bill reminds me.

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<v Speaker 4>Of has to back everything and I can see him

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<v Speaker 4>just stepping in and that being his team for the

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<v Speaker 4>next ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you know, there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that say, oh, well, Sam to develop him here, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a nice opportunity. But I also think

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<v Speaker 1>uh Of Peters deserves a shout out too for identifying

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<v Speaker 1>that trade value. And in the draft that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>top heavy in terms of you know, the top ninety players.

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<v Speaker 1>Adding another pick there and again in a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about Minnesota and ticket to the draft where

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<v Speaker 1>they could trade up, potentially having another pick there. We

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<v Speaker 1>could kind of sweeten the deal or make it thing,

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<v Speaker 1>so I said, and Fred, you've talked about this, taking

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that you got for a fifth round pick

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<v Speaker 1>and then getting a third round pick in return. That

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<v Speaker 1>is that's that's good business, edits.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when I'm saying, like, that's the first thing that

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<v Speaker 3>stood out to me. I'm like, hey, you know one

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<v Speaker 3>he getting we trade it down. But I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>did you see what we just did with that trade?

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<v Speaker 3>This man was a fifth round pick for we just

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<v Speaker 3>got third in a draft. That man, you never know

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<v Speaker 3>what we can do with that third pick or the

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<v Speaker 3>other picks in front of him, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So we just put ourselven situation where we got money,

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<v Speaker 3>we got caves, we got capital, we got liquid. We

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<v Speaker 3>we can do whatever we want. You want, you need something,

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<v Speaker 3>all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on?

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<v Speaker 1>You feel like you know it's it's a great point.

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<v Speaker 1>So awesome job identifying that, and I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's also a testament to Sam to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain extent. Right, Yeah, like plenty you pointed this out,

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<v Speaker 1>like he played well for he looked like. Remember I

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<v Speaker 1>remember sitting on this show and talking about man, if

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<v Speaker 1>he can continue this for another four or five games.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the He's the He was leading the league in

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<v Speaker 3>When I tell you, when I tell you I'm doing

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<v Speaker 3>like this, you think I'm in dodge.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have that read memorized just yet. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>still working.

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<v Speaker 5>We did.

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<v Speaker 1>We're almost there, all right. So now we've got the

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<v Speaker 1>free agent frenzy with theme music apparently, right Jason.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm gonna add theme music to this because we're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna be doing it for a while. And uh, when

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<v Speaker 6>I think of frenzy, I think of like Joel's music.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, what do you guys think when it's

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<v Speaker 6>yeah yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 4>You know the music they play. When when when Jason

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<v Speaker 4>chasing you and people always follow on the ground and

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<v Speaker 4>crawl and look back like I just I just think

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<v Speaker 4>of Dundun Dunn.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was thinking something a little bit more optimistic,

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<v Speaker 1>something more not a holly yeah like cool, because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like this is an opportunity for the team,

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<v Speaker 1>new free agents, new opportunity. It's a frenzy of excitement

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<v Speaker 1>as as well.

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<v Speaker 6>That's how we're saying. I'll put a couple of these

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<v Speaker 6>in here while we're talking about it. Our fans can

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<v Speaker 6>vote for the one they want moving forward, leave a comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's start with the one that I've been getting

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<v Speaker 1>the most probably comments about. Yeah, right, is Marcus Marriotta. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think some people are very high in the move,

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<v Speaker 1>but more more people I talk to are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like question the move.

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<v Speaker 4>They're saying, is he identify you? Is he identify you

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<v Speaker 4>who were gonna drink?

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, so they trying to And I tell people that

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<v Speaker 4>really has nothing to do with it now that I

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<v Speaker 4>think about it, because what if I want my second

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<v Speaker 4>screen quarterback to be a switch hitter, do something different

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<v Speaker 4>than my starter does.

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<v Speaker 5>So at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't look at it identify And plus these top

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<v Speaker 4>three quarterbacks kind of do the same thing in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just different different colors.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, different different speeds they do every finger speed, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>Caleb's not the fastes the fansest out of him is Daniels.

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<v Speaker 5>He not the biggest. Daniel's not the biggest because that's Drake.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the Drake can run but not as well

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<v Speaker 1>as Cale, but he can throw over the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the field better. They've all got different ticks, but they

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<v Speaker 1>all I think they all would work in a version

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<v Speaker 1>of the offense that we watched in twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>with Cliff Kingsbury. The question I have is, again, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's an indicator necessarily, Tanna that My

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<v Speaker 1>question to you is like, does this get you excited?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he can be a mentor for a

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<v Speaker 1>young guy coming in? And like, how do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that will be? Like for me? I think a mentor?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, man, we should have kept Jacoby for

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<v Speaker 1>sett Now. I don't think that was an option in

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<v Speaker 1>talking with people affiliated with that with that decision, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jacoby wanted to go be be a starter.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's good for Jacoby, go do that. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Mariota fills that Bill is a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you want in the room with a young player.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great question, bro, I mean, I honestly, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm still searching for the answer because I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking like, Okay, maybe this staff knows something that we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, you know what I mean, And maybe he

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<v Speaker 3>is one of those guys that they they've seen him

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the room at this position, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>being that second guy, or being a guy who they're

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna really gonna you know, heavenly count on for

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<v Speaker 3>this year to lead us nowhere to be a great guy,

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<v Speaker 3>for a young guy that they can that they can

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<v Speaker 3>lean on, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't I haven't heard that he's one of those

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<v Speaker 3>type of guys. But maybe this the staff knows something a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little more and they know him.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I'm saying exactly, so you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think also getting back to the question of does he

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<v Speaker 3>identify who we're gonna get in the draft, it's another

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<v Speaker 3>great question because I thought when I saw him come

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<v Speaker 3>here then it was almost like, Okay, getting damned because

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to have to make sure he tell him

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<v Speaker 3>listen to this guy, he's gonna tell you, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>But then again, like you just said, maybe we want

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<v Speaker 3>to get a guy that can have a little you know,

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<v Speaker 3>difile and then get another guy who's not quite him

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<v Speaker 3>but can do some of the same things and Drake.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, but I'm looking at it like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when you have a guy that played amount

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, games that he's played, seen what he's seen,

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<v Speaker 3>being a high draft picks, it's not a bad idea

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<v Speaker 3>to have a guy like that in the building, regardless

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<v Speaker 3>if he identifies with being that kind of a leader

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<v Speaker 3>in the room or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And when he gets on the field, he can show

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<v Speaker 3>any guy who's playing that position. Hey, I'm a veteran

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<v Speaker 3>and these are some of the things I've learned through

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<v Speaker 3>the course of me playing this game.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to me, that's more probably the important thing about

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<v Speaker 1>this signing is like what kind of mentor is And

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<v Speaker 1>like when Jacobe came in, like anybody you talked to

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<v Speaker 1>from Indie, anybody you talked to from Indianapolis, anybody I

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<v Speaker 1>had played with that had worked with him, just had

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but glowing things to say about you. And with Marcus,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not quite that emphatic, how it is, But like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he, like you said, watching them, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>in the league for a long time. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>find is dudes that have been around, they've got the

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<v Speaker 1>tricks of the trade and then sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the older you get too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the older you get, the more experience you have,

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<v Speaker 1>the more of those things you have.

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<v Speaker 4>So and I think he's just more quiet and unassuming.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm sure the guys in the quarterback room.

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<v Speaker 5>He talks to Wave, then he talks to everybody else.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, if you're holding the clipboard and it's

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<v Speaker 5>got to.

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<v Speaker 1>Come to the sideline.

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<v Speaker 4>He a type guy, sit you down, hey man, this

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<v Speaker 4>is what happened on his plate.

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<v Speaker 5>This is what I saw, and that's what you want.

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<v Speaker 4>You want his perspective in situations, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>what he's gonna bring to that youngster in those situations is.

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<v Speaker 5>A grown mind and a grown thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think this year really showed you, especially after

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<v Speaker 4>watching this year, I think sixty plus quarterbacks started in games,

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<v Speaker 4>so people said, I need a backup forgetting my starter,

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<v Speaker 4>Like if we don't have a backup, the season is gone.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think New York Jets really shocked people.

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<v Speaker 4>After Aaron got hurt and now you got Zach Wilson

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<v Speaker 4>and the season going down the track.

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<v Speaker 3>It was almost like the I am going to cut

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<v Speaker 3>your It's almost like the running back position. At one

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<v Speaker 3>point in time, you just look for those marquee guys,

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<v Speaker 3>and now it's like we need two or three guys.

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<v Speaker 3>We need for show, two guys on our team that

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<v Speaker 3>can carry the load. And so it seemed like quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>is trending that way now too, because at one point

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<v Speaker 3>in time, the quarterback position, these guys are gonna stay

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<v Speaker 3>in the pocket, they barely get in touched. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>know we're gonna protect them. Now these guys getting outside

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<v Speaker 3>the parkt more so, we need another guy. They need

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who's going to come in here and be

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<v Speaker 3>able to lead us come mid season or somewhere down

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<v Speaker 3>the line where our quarterback get nicked up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>We need a guy that could come out here right

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<v Speaker 2>now and we don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Have to change the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's the other question that is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of yet to be determinabill know better as we get

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<v Speaker 1>towards training camp. But is he the guy that you

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<v Speaker 1>feel great about him coming in for you and winning

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<v Speaker 1>some games? And I don't know, you know, like the

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<v Speaker 1>last time he played he was a start in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>He did some good things, struggle with some stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>in that spot, duty maybe comes in as a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more productive.

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<v Speaker 4>So we also seen a lot of quarterbacks with Arthur

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<v Speaker 4>Smith's offense down in Atlanta not do well because I

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<v Speaker 4>think they really like took the pass away and just

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<v Speaker 4>ran the ball off.

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<v Speaker 1>So like when you listen is we're getting off topic,

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<v Speaker 1>But when you watch Arthur Smith's offense with Desmond Ritter, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they put so much on the position, like checks, motion shifts.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to move this guy. I got sighted just

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<v Speaker 1>so I gotta work it. And so that's a lot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so maybe if you kind of get him in

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<v Speaker 1>a different system and it's a little bit more down, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see another guy Healing Ferrell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, former is the fourth overall ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Back when they were in Oakland, right, Yeah, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>have you guys watched him? All I can start.

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<v Speaker 5>I watched he been playing for the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 4>He was in rotation for the forty nine ers, made

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<v Speaker 4>some plays, flashed a little bit. But hopefully he can

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<v Speaker 4>find a home here because he haven't found his niche yet.

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<v Speaker 5>You know how some guys ain't found that perfect fit yet.

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<v Speaker 4>And then coming into the league that I have a

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<v Speaker 4>pick that much fresh, Yeah, yeah, the most definitely overdrafting

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<v Speaker 4>when you overdraft a guy sometime they never catch back

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<v Speaker 4>up to where they're supposed to be. But if he's

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<v Speaker 4>coming here and he's looking and he says, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>it's John Allen right there, Dryn Payne, I got a

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<v Speaker 4>slot right here, and then if I can get in

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<v Speaker 4>here and hold this shlot down, I maybe can live

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<v Speaker 4>up to my draft status.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think, to me, it's just he he's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a rotational guy. Being the football player reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of James Smith Williams when you watch the film,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like like heavy hands, heavyhead, kind of guy

0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna give you set, a hard edge, has some

0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.480
<v Speaker 1>athletic twitch, but a little stiff in the hips. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think when you look at what Dan's done

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<v Speaker 1>in his time and now Went has done with the

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<v Speaker 1>defenses down in Dallas, is they just have a good

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<v Speaker 1>form and rotation. So everyone's gonna be fresh reps, everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna opportunities. And I think that's what it gives you,

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<v Speaker 1>just gives you a piece of you know, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>have the highest ceiling, but he's got a solid, good

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<v Speaker 1>high floor. Yeah, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you took the words of my mouth. You

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<v Speaker 3>know a rotational guy. He's a guy that you never know.

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<v Speaker 3>He may be surprised us because this defense is going

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<v Speaker 3>to get him opportunity to be in there at times

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<v Speaker 3>when he's fresh and he can go out there and

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<v Speaker 3>get after that quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>So just a staple.

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<v Speaker 3>Get just another guy that you can add to a

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<v Speaker 3>line that we're trying to fill in voids. You see

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Getting more bodies in that position. And

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<v Speaker 3>when you have a guy, Mama, I talk to you

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<v Speaker 3>about as a receiver, you got certain guys that want.

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<v Speaker 2>To be out there every down. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I remember, and I always had his mindset

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm a guy I'm blazing almost every down. So

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<v Speaker 3>when I ain't get the ball, I'm coming out. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna take that breather because when I come back again

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<v Speaker 3>third down, never know I'm fresh. And it wasn't until

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<v Speaker 3>I got to Mike Shanahan that he saw the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But instead of him having me as a starter, he says, look, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>I want you in the third down when you when

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<v Speaker 3>you know you're coming in there to move to change.

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<v Speaker 3>And I look at a guy like this with him,

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<v Speaker 3>You know who knows if he gonna come in here

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<v Speaker 3>and be that starter.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way they run their defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey they got you know what I'm saying, You got

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<v Speaker 3>guys man that could come in and just like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just like when you watch the Cowboys a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to be sitting up like, who is this

0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:32.879
<v Speaker 2>guy making a damn play? But that's that's what this

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<v Speaker 2>defense allow you to do. So I think he's a

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<v Speaker 2>solid piece you know, saw to pick up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so too. And I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, part of that rotation. The other guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of the rotation is Dante Fowler Junior, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw him We're to do something the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>we just talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they kind of fit the same role. I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you look at Fowler, he was a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I think has more pass.

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<v Speaker 4>Rushed juice outside back of Colin Fair. But this is

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<v Speaker 4>what I do loove when I look at all these Dude,

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking at the list not too long ago

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<v Speaker 4>the other.

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<v Speaker 5>Day all X first round draft like the world so

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<v Speaker 5>you know it's there's some player in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Is in question is the coaching staff probably sit down

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<v Speaker 4>and say can we.

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<v Speaker 5>Can we unlock it can we be unlocked, but the

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<v Speaker 5>other coaches couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like talking about your kids and you hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>seen them turn that coner yet You're like, he got

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<v Speaker 3>my blood. As long as he keeps chipping at it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, eventually it's gonna come out

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<v Speaker 3>of them. That's how I look at some of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you're getting you it's a pattern there, all

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 3>these guys. You're picking up X number two, X number

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 3>four pay off high picks. Yeah, and you're like, why

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 3>didn't they Why didn't we see that over there where

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<v Speaker 3>they was at last?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's all about getting in the right scheme.

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<v Speaker 3>That's one of the things Joe Whitt spoke on first,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the first day he said in his seat,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, man, look, were looking for the guys that

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<v Speaker 3>we can get.

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<v Speaker 2>And fit what we like to do, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So obviously these guys have showed them some on film

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<v Speaker 3>that they say, hey, we want that guy because we

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<v Speaker 3>can unlock what he has in himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I think the one thing that Dan said

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<v Speaker 1>that sticks out to me too, and Witt said the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, as we want to like guys with traits, right,

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 1>And so when I look at Quelan Taylor, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>good at seting edges in the run game. Right, He's

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<v Speaker 1>a physical, rotational guy that has value. Let's maximize what

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 1>that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dante Fowler has some pass rush juice, So

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<v Speaker 1>can we get him out there as like the third

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end and rush and move him inside, move him outside,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I think about when he was in at

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<v Speaker 1>Florida rush in the past or they moved him all

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<v Speaker 1>over the formation, Like he's not that guy that he

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 1>was in college, but he's got some skills. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited that a coaching staff, the coaching staff here

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<v Speaker 1>is a group that can identify traits and say how

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<v Speaker 1>do we maximize this player? Because I want I want

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland failor in or excuse me on first down yea,

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and I want Dante Faller in on third down? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So like, how do we maximize those skill sets? The

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<v Speaker 1>guy that I may be most excited for, quite honestly

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<v Speaker 1>is the next guy is Jeremy Chin missed and he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, didn't play a lot last year in Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of not an injury, but just more of

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<v Speaker 1>a stylistic difference in terms of how they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>play their defense. But a guy that was up for

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<v Speaker 1>defensive rookie the year he came in second to Chase

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I can play that kind of buffalo

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>nickel in the box. And I think about what they

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<v Speaker 1>did in Dallas with all of like those big safety

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 1>type guys that cover tight ends, can play in the slot,

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<v Speaker 1>can be a linebacker, and that's what he is. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a little bit more athletically, athletically dexterous, a.

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<v Speaker 5>Little bit more explosive than Cam Curll.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit head bustle wigs split, that's what I call him.

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<v Speaker 2>Head bustle wig exploit.

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<v Speaker 4>Alwa told him right down, we can it, and having

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 4>a conversation with him, he is very sour on what

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 4>happened is eating them up, like it's totally eating them up.

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.120
<v Speaker 4>So he's just chumping at the beat to get out there.

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<v Speaker 5>Improved. Carolina made a mistake, and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Love, like I always asked players, like is it something else?

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 4>This this got you on fire? And he's like, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, they ain't seen the best of me.

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 4>Nobody has. Catalanda didn't give me a chance to really

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<v Speaker 4>play last year, so I'm fresh, you know what I'm saying,

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 4>fresh and hungry. It's too dangerous mixtures.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you like on film even last year when

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't play a Tony kind of reminds me like

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<v Speaker 1>a poor man's Kyle Hamilton a little bit, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, he's this big body that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite a line back and.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop using it poor man because I tried to describe

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<v Speaker 4>one of my ex girlfriends as like a poor man's

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<v Speaker 4>beyond saying she like cuts me out, So I just

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<v Speaker 4>stopped using it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably would you, with your decision.

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<v Speaker 5>Describe your girl as like a poor man like? Yeah,

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 5>look at her, she looks like a poor man's Beyonce.

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 5>She was like, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Jason had to make a note over there to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure we're not get in trouble. But yeah, so I

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>think I think that So yeah, but I think, but

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I think if you can again, if you have a

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>defensive group of coaching staff that can maximize a unique

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<v Speaker 1>skill set and a guy that I think can still

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<v Speaker 1>play like you're watching some of his key players from

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>last year, man like hits, gets downhill and moves well

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>in space, that'd be an exciting piece for dan Quinn

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and uh and went to maximize it.

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:07.360
<v Speaker 2>And he's still young.

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah what I'm saying, yeah's his.

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 5>Youth on his side.

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>And the great thing he's on a proven deal, you know,

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, one for five and in home green. Yeah,

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and I like that you said that that's an exciting opportunity.

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So the last guy I haven't watched yet because I

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know that he signed because so many guys

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>have signed. But Noahgogay, way to nail that Banogamy, You're

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:28.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna mess me up.

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<v Speaker 5>Messed up.

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>And now from the Miami Dolphins. And you said you've

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>watched him a little bit.

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 4>The first former first round pick never got on the

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 4>field was because because of those two coners that they

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 4>had down in Miami said could get on the field,

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 4>and he got hurt early in the thing, so he

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 4>was he was hurt more than keep switt at the

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 4>beginning of his grip.

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 5>So this is why he never really got going. Uh.

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 4>But scrown, big, big bonedy cone, fast corner.

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 5>Not as as much of.

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 4>A ball hawk as I would like, but more of

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 4>a PBu type guy. But one of those youthful guys

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 4>that have it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know the system.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean was he was with the

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 3>he the first three years of the Dolphins. Last year's

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 3>with the Cowboy, So you know what I mean, He's

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 3>a system guy that they know they can count on

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 3>the coming play.

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 4>He can play nickel, so he could play inside, which

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 4>we have no body solidified is to solidified.

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>This is our and the way you described him, kind

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>of that big body and there it's important to the

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>NFL to.

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 3>Have got a build like like Kwan a little bit

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 3>and got a bigger than a little bigger than Kwan,

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 3>but muscular build, you know what I mean to him,

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean it looked like he could run around a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. He only got one exception. But you know,

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 3>like I talked about bodies, talking about guys coming in

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 3>here that can feel a void. I mean, you need bodies,

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 3>you know. It's one of the things we talked about

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 3>in the secondary loan, especially the way they play the ball.

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 3>I want to see this physical style of play. So

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>obviously they believe he could come in here and and

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 3>bring that kind of play.

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<v Speaker 4>Since when you have guys like a manual full who's

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 4>more on the skinny side. I need to add somebody

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<v Speaker 4>over there with some boat to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's awesome with free agency to kind

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>of see these pieces coming. But I think the thing

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm most excited for now is, like, you know, off

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>season workouts, Like how do these guys start implementing into

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>these different roles and can they find spaces and how

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>do they maximize within this defense. Another two guys I

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>thought we should talk about returning guys, not very familiar guys.

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Jeamie Reeves and Jamison Crowder both re signed to the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I think those are great signings. Yep, let's clop that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Give him around a pla. I appreciate them, boy, because

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>you know Jeremi Reeves special teams ace. Yeah, I think

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you know pro bowler at.

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<v Speaker 5>That coming out with injury.

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 4>Glad for him because he's when people say hort and soul,

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 4>one of them hot soul guys.

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 2>And proud of crowded.

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 5>Crowded.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't he have a team at the beginning of last

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 4>year and he ran. He returned like I need a job.

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 3>He returned, and he also showed them offensively there I

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 3>can be your slot guy.

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>You need me to be so and talk about a

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>guy that kind of fits that. You know, like both

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>those guys m Crowder, Uh, you know obviously playing that

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>slot role had a really dynamic and forget which game

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>that was, but really productive. And then Reeves I thought,

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>just did a great job at times being that kind

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>of Buffalo nickel player another body that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Alshow probably was the most physical defensive back we had

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 3>last year. When he got in the game, like, he

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 3>showed that grit, he showed that tenacity, he showed how

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Joe Whit said he going to come to the game,

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, he wanted he wanted he wanted them guys

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<v Speaker 3>to be you know, wake up that morning and chose violence.

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's how Reeves played the game.

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<v Speaker 3>He played like that on special teams, played that way

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<v Speaker 3>in the secondary. I won't be surprised that they try

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 3>to use him the secondary a lot more, you know

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, because I think he has that he

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 3>has that ability to go out there and be more

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 3>valuable to this team, to this secondary.

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 2>The way they played the game, I think that fits

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>re style of play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And I think we're optimistic. We should be optimistic.

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>It's in the offseason, but still got a lot of

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>growing to do, a lot of things to come together,

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>but we're excited about some of these mops. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Washington today. All right, so now would you rather? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, are Jason you coming on this? Let's see

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>what we got here? He's getting his headphones on. He's

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>not it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm in not.

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 5>Just regular Jason, regular, Jason facilitated.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Jason Kuiper, right, Yeah, No, that's the other show

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>that's sick of the draft. So we'll keep just.

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<v Speaker 6>Reading Game Manager right here.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the point of the segment, Jason? What we got?

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<v Speaker 6>All right? So the point of this segment is with

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<v Speaker 6>the draft coming up, there are a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 6>in the quarterback in the draft, right, It's assuming we're

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 6>taking in quarterback a number two, that's you. Overall consensus

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 6>but there are options that are out there that are

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 6>floating out there. There's a lot of moves that have

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:03.479
<v Speaker 6>been going around in the NFL. There's some teams that

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 6>clearly need a quarterback that need to move up to

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<v Speaker 6>get one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>So with all the shuffling that's been going around, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>gonna ask you, would you rather have this quarterback or

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<v Speaker 6>this draftable rookie quarterback?

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<v Speaker 5>All right? All right? Cool?

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm gonna ask you these based on some teams

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 6>that need a quarterback. So, for instance, here's the first one,

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 6>the Raiders. They have Gardner Minshew Mississippi Mad Would you

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 6>rather have Gardner Minshew, Zippy Main or move up and

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 6>get a JJ McCarthy or Michael Pennock Junior.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to be realistic in my approach to this.

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 4>I think JJ will be gone.

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>They gotta move up.

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<v Speaker 4>Though I would say, if I close my eyes and

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 4>think about it, I will rather have Michael Pennix Junior.

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 4>He looks like a Raider. I'm just saying because he

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Michael Pennick Jr. He might be besides JJ the most

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm ready to start now the back like I'm ready

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<v Speaker 4>to start.

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<v Speaker 5>The day I come in there all right. He got

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.719
<v Speaker 5>some age on them, maturity all right.

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>He the only lifty after group. He can make every

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 4>throat he spend it out, he could spind it. So

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 4>when I closed my eyes, I could see Michael Pennix.

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<v Speaker 5>Walking out of the tunnel as a raider. I don't

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 5>see JJ is a raider.

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>You pretty boy for that pretty boy, for that town.

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 5>What you got.

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 3>I like Pennix too, but I would say right now,

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<v Speaker 3>for this team, I don't think they have the capital.

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Or they need too many pieces to be moving up

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to get a quarterback.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 3>So I would think I would take I would take

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 3>the mustache. I mean, he looks like a rated to

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<v Speaker 3>the way he plays like a raider. He's he has

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 3>that grit bottom. He's gonna go out there and get

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 3>those guys fired up. He had a little Heinekey in him,

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like he got that same

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of little thing that Heineke has.

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<v Speaker 2>Just go play, That's what I'm saying.

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 3>He went over crowds everywhere he goes, so he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have he's gonna have some success over there.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, and this is in the perfect role

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<v Speaker 1>to what I do is I keep Minshew and I

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<v Speaker 1>draft Jjjcarty and I let JJ McCarthy sit for a year,

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>is what I would do, because I think while I

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>think JJ McCarthy's extremely talented, I think he's he's not

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>where I wanted to be from a development standpoint. I

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think you can get there one hundred percent. Yeah,

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I think he could be. You could end up being

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the best quarterback in this class because, like when you

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>watch his tape, high level production on third down and

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>pushing the football in the pro throws, pro concepts. So

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>a guy that I like a lot. So that's how

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I would do it. I would keep Minshew and then

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I would have JJ sit for a year, and then

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five, I'd be like, it's time for

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>me to roll. And then I do think Michael Pennix,

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>to Fred's point, Ken Spinett, but I don't know. There's

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>something about the way he sees the middle of the

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 1>field that gives me that gets me nervous. But if

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>he's there in the second round, I think you jump

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>all over that and kind of operate under the same principle.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, all right, I have him the next one here.

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<v Speaker 6>Our division rivals to Giants currently have Daniel Jones and

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 6>Drew Locke on the Rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Stinks.

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<v Speaker 6>They're picking at six. They're picking at six, so the

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 6>chance of them getting a Jaden Daniel was there, Drake

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<v Speaker 6>may pretty nil. Would you rather have Daniel Jones and

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<v Speaker 6>Drew Locke or have them move up?

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel? What if the trade package? What if the trade

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:14.959
<v Speaker 1>package was you get Daniel Jones and a first round pick.

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, and you get it's like

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>as like you got a player and two picks to

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>move up so they could take u they could take Daniels.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, their room is constantly is it is today, It's

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:30.760
<v Speaker 4>the worst room in n NFL.

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 5>Let's be honest. It stinks. Now what is male?

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Like a baby's pam now bit his tongue a little bit.

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:48.760
<v Speaker 5>But I also like to say, you know, really, listen,

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 5>who would look good in that that that blue, that red,

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 5>that white.

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.839
<v Speaker 4>I could see Drake may Rock he would he would

0:35:56.960 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 4>look He would actually look Drake maybe like he built

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 4>for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Jones from Carolina too, isn't he Yeah, yes, play

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.959
<v Speaker 3>from somewhere over there.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 4>So he just looked like a giant. He looks like

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.879
<v Speaker 4>a giant quarterback. When I if I got to pick

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:16.879
<v Speaker 4>out a Drake May and Jr.

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 3>Day, Yeah, yeah, I would say, I would say Drake

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 3>May find a way to move up and get Drapan.

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 3>I think I think he fits what they do over there,

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 3>like like you close your eye, like like if I

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 3>want to close my eyes and vision somebody in that uniform,

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 3>because every time we go in that stadium is just Drewry.

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>So he looks like back that fits in that big,

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 2>big arm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't matter what the weather is, don't matter how

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 3>down it is, he gonna go out.

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 2>There and play good football. Yeah he fits that man.

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Make another poor man in comparison. But you know, Jaydon Daniels,

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Drake May, excuse me, poor man of our guy Josh

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Allen up in Buffalo. You know what I'm saying, a

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>little bit less athletic arms, not quite as live. But

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>how does some of that playmaking grit to him?

0:36:57.640 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:36:57.920 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's something that Brian dave Ball

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>would just fall over himself to get because.

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 2>It would be surprised.

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Either. One of the things about uh got some messal

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>on these danners up Daniel Jones, is that he doesn't

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball over the middle of field very well.

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>And when you look at our guy Drake may like

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>that is where he is. I think if I'm Brian

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>day Ball, I'm probably like, I don't really like what's

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>going on the problem is they just paid dannage On

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 1>so much money.

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah they got they only they only only hooked for

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 4>this year, like after this year they'll be fining. And

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:31.720
<v Speaker 4>don't forget they signed Brian Burns. I got him opposite

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 4>temple though. This when the Giants turn it on, when

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:37.359
<v Speaker 4>they have they rush in. So now they probably feel

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:38.720
<v Speaker 4>like we're one quarterback away.

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 6>Does the Giants moving up with trading with us?

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 5>We're not going to do it.

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 2>We're not if we do do.

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 6>It, what's the tax for that?

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 5>All? I want?

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 6>How much? You asking?

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 4>What they got the number five, pick six, pick six six,

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 4>give me number six, give me your number two, you

0:37:56.160 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 4>second round pick and number one probably after that number one.

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it'd be a big it'll be a big pick,

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:05.840
<v Speaker 2>come get it. But I can see it. But I

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 2>could see that, like, come get it.

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't feel bad at getting

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 3>the number six pick. If it we're gonna get all

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 3>that I know we still need a quarterback. And if

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 3>you're not sure about the next two guys, I feel like.

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 4>It's one tackle and you know at least a wide

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 4>receiver of being the top five, you know at least somewhere.

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.320
<v Speaker 5>So from seeing that six, I'm gonna get somebody.

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>And also that then have three second round picks in

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the top what you could trade back you first and

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>if like you know, Bonnicks or JJ starts sliding a

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit like what we got. So I do think

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>there's I know we're dealing, we're fast dealing there, but

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 1>we can we can make something happen there.

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 2>That will happen when you have capital, man, you have picks,

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 2>you can do what you want.

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 6>Adam Peters is really.

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Boy, you hit me all right?

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 6>The Broncos they currently.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 1>That is the most interesting one.

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 5>I think, let's ride.

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 6>Do they do they trade up? Did they trade up?

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 6>Would you rather have Jared Stidham or Drake may or

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 6>a bone next to you?

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 5>Do they win.

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Fourteen?

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 6>I'll look it up to be a jack bath.

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I know they will to do something. They might they

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 3>might get you have ownership right now.

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>They say they don't have any pick twelve of twelve.

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 5>They gave him off for Russell.

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 4>All right, So maybe I see I see bow Knicks

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 4>going up there his first press conference, let's ride.

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 5>I can see boat.

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Knicks as that bronco I picked for him.

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 4>I understand, But we're talking about a head coach in

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:46.880
<v Speaker 4>his mind. I'm a quarterback guru. Look, and I have

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.240
<v Speaker 4>a quarterback with a lot of snaps under his belt

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.720
<v Speaker 4>college wise. In bow Knicks, I could plug him in

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 4>and protect him with this defense in his run game

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:57.959
<v Speaker 4>and let him grow slow.

0:39:58.160 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I ain't got I ain't got a lot to give.

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go ahead and say, you canna have part

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 3>ownership in the team, and I'm gonna need a their

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 3>wall pick. I'm gonna go get Drake may.

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Gotta throw something, throw something out. I'm being funny, you

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:11.359
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 3>But man, I see them going not with not with

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Buddy Jared in the damn quarterback talking about ride with him.

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 3>So I don't kill I don't care who Sean Payton

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:21.439
<v Speaker 3>think he is. He ain't doing nothing with him.

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.839
<v Speaker 1>So with seump with uh with Garrett saidam they won

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>like six of eight games two years ago. You know

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? In New Orleans when he was coaching

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>on Yeah, he just gets you know, he just pulling

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>strings and making so maybe he's like, I'm that dude.

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's an indoor, indoor stadium. So I'm pretty sure

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 3>you know a lot of that stuff played the role.

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.839
<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't know, Drake man't go get them.

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 6>And now we have the the Vikings. They're picking at

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 6>number eleven and they lost, so they have Sam Donald.

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 6>They traded for Sam Donald. So if you're the Vikings

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 6>at eleven, are you would you rather have Sam Donald

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 6>to start the season or do you just get a

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 6>quarterback Daniel?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't think Sam Donald's that bad man.

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna start this month good. You're right, But I'm

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 3>saying like he's familiar with that offense because your boy,

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 3>who's the head coach over that it came from the ram,

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 3>so he's familiar. I'm sure they probably still will want

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 3>somebody else, you know, other than Sam Donald, but I

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 3>won't feel bad if they get nobody and had to

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 3>start a season with Sam Donald.

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 4>I know you when you would not walk into foot

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 4>locker and buy you shoe.

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 5>You would go in there and say, you know what,

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 5>the freeway shoe. Give me that U shoe. That's what

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 5>Donald is, a huge.

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Shoe, meaning Sam Donald.

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 3>No, but my thing is with all these guys, and

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 3>it's not bad having any one of these quarterbacks because

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 3>with the draft being what it is and how it.

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Had always unfolds, Yeah, you can get one of these guys.

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure it's gonna be a bow Knicks. It's

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna be I mean, a Pennix junior.

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 3>Somebody gonna be around. I see when it's happening. You

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 3>want to spend that money, go get them.

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 4>JJ McCarty has proved at Michigan. I'm a cold water,

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:10.280
<v Speaker 4>a cole Weather quarterback in Minnesota. You gotta play in Chicago,

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 4>you got to play at Green Bay. He is more

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 4>equipped than the West Coast quarterbacks to come into that

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 4>until the Midwest and have no setbacks.

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 5>So if I'm the Vikings, the only.

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Player in the first round that I really care about

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 4>is JJ McCarthy.

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 5>You know, at the end of the.

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 4>Day, he fits everything I need, especially with the I

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 4>mean the head coach they got over there, McLam They

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 4>know how to push the ball down the field. I

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 4>got a number one receiver with JJ with Jeshon Jefferson,

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I got a tight end with TJ.

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 5>Horkinson to make it easy for right now.

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 4>If you plug in JJ McCarty to that Minnesota team,

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 4>they might be a contender.

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And obviously he's got some growing to do. But

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the thing that I find interesting is kind of taking

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of Tennis point and a little bit

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 1>of Fret's point, is what if you feel like you

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.759
<v Speaker 1>get away with Sam Darnald for the season where you

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.280
<v Speaker 1>drop bow next and you let him sit and develop

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and grow in that offense, or Michael Pennix or whoever

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>it is at eleven, I don't I don't think you

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>trade to get that twenty third pick here from Houston

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:09.359
<v Speaker 1>without thinking you're going to move up. So I don't

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 1>think this is going to happen. But so obviously they

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>don't feel that way about Sam Darnold. But I think

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>they are definitely in the court. Like of all these teams,

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 1>because of the actions they've taken so far, they are

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the most in the quarterback market. It just depends on

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>how high they can get. And I would think, based

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.319
<v Speaker 1>on like what I've seen on film, Drake May would

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>be their guy, which means they'd have to to ensure that.

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 5>They got to come nuts, they'd have to get to two.

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So like what would it take for them to

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>go from eleven to two? That would make you happy?

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Saying maybe we don't want to take a quarterback here?

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Like what would it take from then? They'mnisode?

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 5>Hey, Fred, I need you, I need your future.

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I got eleven, I got twenty three. I'll give you

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.439
<v Speaker 1>a second this year, and I got a first next

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:53.439
<v Speaker 1>year and a first after date. All right, now that's four.

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 1>How about I give you how about I give you

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>another two? How beut I give you a first and

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>a second next year. I'll give you two first this year. Yep,

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you one next year. I'll give you a second.

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a third round pick this.

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:05.319
<v Speaker 5>Year, coming end up with three first rounds and two

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 5>second rounds. Yes, five picks to get here. I can

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 5>build a team.

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>How about how do we make that? How about we

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>make that second next year a third? No, it's got

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to be a second.

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.800
<v Speaker 5>It gotta be a I'm taking nothing less than seconds

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 5>in first.

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 1>How about a third?

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:21.840
<v Speaker 5>Then a payphon?

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I want to how about a third?

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Effect put the quarter in.

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 5>No, this is what I want. First and seconds.

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 4>Other than that, we ain't talking because evidenty you want

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 4>this guy. You have identified this guy, and I got all.

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:39.439
<v Speaker 5>The power is in my head.

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:40.240
<v Speaker 2>You have the leverage.

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 5>So this is what I want you to do. I

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 5>want your future. I want all of it, not some

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 5>of it, Like for the next three years.

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 4>I want to be picking Washington picks in Viking picks.

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 5>That's what I want in case.

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:56.280
<v Speaker 4>You know what, In case I don't get my quarterback

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 4>this year and I can move up and get your door,

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.399
<v Speaker 4>I can move up and get who I would get

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 4>hot next year.

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:01.279
<v Speaker 1>I could.

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.800
<v Speaker 5>You know, I just won't leverage and I want maneuverability.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree. But it would take it. So I

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>guess the point is there five people it would take

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:10.879
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah, take a lot. Yeah.

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.879
<v Speaker 6>So that does their last one here leads nice thing

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 6>to your last one. This is the Washington focus. Would

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.399
<v Speaker 6>you rather? Would you rather trade out of that number

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 6>two spot and get that draft capital or just take

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 6>a quarterback?

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question, is yeah, I'm one of that.

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 5>I'm wanted. People like quality over quantity, because.

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 4>We all know if we pick ten draft picks, all

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 4>ten won't be great pros all right, So I'm going

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 4>to say, do I feel like it's another for show

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 4>quarterback in here other than Kayleb?

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 5>Do you feel like.

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 4>It's one guy that you know, like besides for sure quarterback?

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:56.839
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 5>You don't feel like that.

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 4>Do you feel like it's a couple of for sure

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 4>tackles in the dress?

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:01.799
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Or like as for sure as you can go?

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 5>Do you feel like it's a couple for sure dns

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:07.280
<v Speaker 5>in Israel?

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 4>So would you rind a half a for sure tackle

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 4>in a for sure first round d N then a

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 4>questionable quarterback?

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Well? I think this is the thing that I keep

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>going back to because people ask me this all the time,

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, when you look at the history of

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 1>quarterback evaluation.

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:23.240
<v Speaker 2>I think this week so hard.

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 1>We need to do a study on this, Like when

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I just need to document them all out, write them down,

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>see the production, and then have actual numbers here. But

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like less than thirty percent hit right, right, less

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:35.399
<v Speaker 1>than twenty So as much as I like Drake May,

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 1>as much as I like Jane Daniels, I'm going to

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>buy the history a history, set the precedent here, and

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 1>trust that I'm not going to be right here. And

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the thing that does work consistently is good teams. Like

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>a good team, let Brock Purty chill for a year

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and then Brock Purty became Brock Purtty, right, a good team.

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Let Jayden Daniels develop for a year and then he

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>became Jays.

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 5>Allow Pat Mahomes to ride the bench for you.

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 1>And then how do you get a good team? You

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.800
<v Speaker 1>get bild, you murder in the draft, and so you

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:04.439
<v Speaker 1>got to hit on draft picks. But if I've got

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of high caliber draft picks, not only can

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I trade for free agency assets, but I can get

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 1>good football players or people that are more consensus good

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>football players better athletes. Right. So that's the thing I

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>keep thinking about, is like if I trade back with

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota and i get to eleven and twenty three, and

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I've got all these second round picks, right, and I say,

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 1>and I'll probably get on the second from them. Can

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I use two of those seconds and a third next

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>year to trade up five spots and pick JJ or

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>pick whoever I want? And then is JJ with a

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 1>starting left tackle with a good end with a nice

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>additionate linebacker with the starting with Cooper Dejene for example,

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 1>in that second, like, are those five players supporting him

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:47.720
<v Speaker 1>allowing him to be more productive? Or we get another receiver?

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Like that's where I'm like, that is very very enticing

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.320
<v Speaker 1>to kind of accelerate this process.

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 4>I would be tempty, like I'd be literally draf day

0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:00.800
<v Speaker 4>my phone wide open, like I would be very tempted

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 4>to say yes.

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>It would need to be a good offer. I would

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 1>need to be more indecisive about the quarterbacks than I

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:10.840
<v Speaker 1>probably I'm pretty indecisive on him now, but like I'm.

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Going to say the same thing, like you made a point.

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:16.439
<v Speaker 3>You got Caleb to us, like he's like the show.

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Then I look at Daniels, I look at Drake, McCarthy,

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Pennix and bold Nicks. All those guys fit in the

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 3>same circle to me, same group.

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I.

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 3>Truly believe that hitter. You can miss some eat to

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<v Speaker 3>eat one, but they all good. They all have talent,

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<v Speaker 3>they all have potential. So if I can use my

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<v Speaker 3>leverage with this second.

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<v Speaker 4>Round pick and the add motality and add more talent

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<v Speaker 4>and add and be able to get a team willing

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<v Speaker 4>to give.

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<v Speaker 2>Me whatever I want, Yeah, why not?

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<v Speaker 3>Why not go and say, look, man, I can add

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<v Speaker 3>the pieces on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>I can get more picks.

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<v Speaker 3>And willing deal later on in this draft with those picks,

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<v Speaker 3>and I could get more picks for next year, for

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<v Speaker 3>the future, and maybe find another guy that if this

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback that I found later in the first round or

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<v Speaker 3>later in the second round that doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>And get that, like you're talking about your doing somebody

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<v Speaker 2>next year?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, why not?

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<v Speaker 3>Especially now you're getting a chance to build the foundation

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<v Speaker 3>a little more. You're getting to put getting to add

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<v Speaker 3>more pieces to the to that line that's needed, or

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<v Speaker 3>to your defense, or to you know, wherever it may

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<v Speaker 3>be able to need to be filled. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're in a great spot. And this isn't for podcast reasons,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. We're just in the here talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows what's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make sure fans are clear threatened to kill.

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<v Speaker 3>Me that we're just talking. But when you really think

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<v Speaker 3>about it, if you're not so keyword sold on those

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<v Speaker 3>next two guys, if you ain't in love bro, who man,

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<v Speaker 3>look and you think one of those other guys might

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<v Speaker 3>be around, if you're trade back, yeah, hey, shoot your shot.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to ask yourself, if I plug a quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>in here right now, are we will contending? That's the

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<v Speaker 4>big question you have to ask yourself. Uh, I need

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<v Speaker 4>a left tack corner. I need a I need an answerusher.

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<v Speaker 1>Different edge.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I need things.

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<v Speaker 1>Just see more talents. You just see more talent on

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<v Speaker 1>the roster. Yeah, And that's how you get That's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the ways to get it is to get more

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<v Speaker 1>draft capital. And I think Philly the next one job

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<v Speaker 1>of this model. A couple of years ago, they looked

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<v Speaker 1>like they were on fire. Then they drafted, well, they

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<v Speaker 1>got a who bunch of pieces in there, quarterback developed,

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<v Speaker 1>they got healthy at the right time, and now they're

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<v Speaker 1>one of the They were one of the best rosters

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<v Speaker 1>in football teaeers.

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<v Speaker 5>And we know this as a fact. Every year it happened.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be two players that was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 4>in the top twenty. I was one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna fall Jason Carler last year failed.

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<v Speaker 5>So I gotta have this way.

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<v Speaker 4>I think them sickond round picks we got in our

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<v Speaker 4>back pocket.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the amo in case somebody falls.

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<v Speaker 4>For Sean Nula, somebody falls and I need to get

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<v Speaker 4>back in the first round to go get these guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I think this delivered. You always want to have the.

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<v Speaker 1>Other thing I think about too, and we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this a ton on Ticket of the Draft podcast, But

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback development and environment are so important. And is this environment,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a roster and it's current iteration good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>support a young quarterback's development. Are they able to elevate

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<v Speaker 1>the roster? And that's the thing that I come back to,

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<v Speaker 1>is like, maybe you need more pieces around the guy

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<v Speaker 1>right to make it work. And again, like those are

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<v Speaker 1>the questions. That's why Adam gets paid a ton of money,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why we sit here and do a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you gave Because that's a hard decision.

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<v Speaker 4>You give your young quarterback diverse running game. I got

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<v Speaker 4>a thunder and lightning in the back for you. I

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<v Speaker 4>give him my young quarterback the center he needs so

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<v Speaker 4>he don't have to do any of the calls. I

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<v Speaker 4>got an interior they's set up. I got cosmic, foundational

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<v Speaker 4>guard on the right.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my left guard, gritty, good pronunciation there, brother one,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I shot the learning institution. I got the tight end

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<v Speaker 4>over here with how much play no matter what. So

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<v Speaker 4>I got some stuff set up for this guy's arrival,

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<v Speaker 4>but does it make me a playoff team? And if

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't, I have to seriously think about I might

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<v Speaker 4>need to trade down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's why Man Adam good luck, Man supports

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, but that's gonna do it for today's show.

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