Speaker 1: On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we discussed we
Speaker 1: talk about did we land on the Moon with Santana Moss.
Speaker 1: I give you his thoughts on that. We talked about
Speaker 1: Sam HALLI traded to Seattle, Adam Peters, wheeling and dealing,
Speaker 1: getting good value there, free agency, Frenzy, we got Marcus
Speaker 1: muriol A, Keelian Fayler, Dante Fowler, Junior, Jeremy Chin. The
Speaker 1: list goes on and on building this team, and we
Speaker 1: got would you rather trade back or not to trade back?
Speaker 1: That is the question you ain't first, He lays, welcome
Speaker 1: on into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
Speaker 1: with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss and Tanna. When my
Speaker 1: dad texted me to tell you something about the moon,
Speaker 1: but I can't find it in my phone.
Speaker 2: I want to see the dirt.
Speaker 1: You want to see the dirt.
Speaker 2: I want to see it, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For those of you who don't know, we did
Speaker 1: a segment where Tanna pretended to pretend to be a
Speaker 1: draft got a question about the moon. He said he's
Speaker 1: not sure if the moon is real or space.
Speaker 3: No, I know space is there? Yeah, I wasn't. I said,
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not a believer. Lan didn't move.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, and it was kind of a bit And
Speaker 1: if you want to check that out, it's on the
Speaker 1: Command Center show. So I checked that out on YouTube.
Speaker 1: But my dad made my dad made a comment about it.
Speaker 1: So in honor of my dad's comments, I wore this
Speaker 1: shirt today, which is the moon.
Speaker 4: And you know what, I would have never thought that,
Speaker 4: you know, bringing as your dady is and he had
Speaker 4: asketronaut and all the stuff heat.
Speaker 5: Indeed, how did he feel just having you?
Speaker 1: That's a great question. So it's funny because like in
Speaker 1: my family, I got like a bunch of like really
Speaker 1: smart people like my you.
Speaker 2: A football player?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like yeah, So I go to like
Speaker 1: family dinners and my uncle's a lawyer, my dad's an
Speaker 1: aerospace engineers not my grandpa was a doctor, my my
Speaker 1: other grandfather was an architect.
Speaker 5: All of them. You made it to the lead.
Speaker 1: And so like what does it mean to play football?
Speaker 2: You know, you're like, Okay, hey, that's big man. Should
Speaker 2: be proud.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that bitch when you come into keys, come
Speaker 4: to dumb me at the family.
Speaker 5: I only went to u c l A.
Speaker 1: It's a public school.
Speaker 5: You're probably only public school.
Speaker 2: The family.
Speaker 5: To my god, you feel you know.
Speaker 1: So that's that's all I said.
Speaker 2: I don't listen to Bro, don't listen to Fred. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, we're trying to be little. I don't I
Speaker 2: get what he's saying.
Speaker 3: He's saying when you look at those those different you know,
Speaker 3: qualifications they have.
Speaker 1: That's a big deal.
Speaker 5: You football, Yeah, going to what you're you but.
Speaker 2: You're right, and they're standing up here.
Speaker 4: If I was just governor and he's like, yeah, I play,
Speaker 4: I played for Washington, you're the dump try man.
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Speaker 1: All right, so let's get to it. Lots of moves
Speaker 1: for Washington, lots of quarterback moves. Specifically, what year was
Speaker 1: this draft? What year was samehollow draft? Two years ago?
Speaker 5: Two years ago?
Speaker 1: So it's twenty twenty one, right, So of those guys,
Speaker 1: only one guy is really on the same team. There
Speaker 1: are no it is a rock party.
Speaker 5: Party, and.
Speaker 2: I think it was Trevor Lawrence one.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you're thinking of Justin.
Speaker 4: This is this is Dan, Sam Half, Jenny Pickett, Knty Picket.
Speaker 4: All these guys are gone, Brock, Matt Carrel.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about that twenty twenty one draft. We
Speaker 3: were just talking about all those quarterbacks being traded.
Speaker 1: So samhow obviously traded to Seattle, YEP for a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick, a Herd third round pick, Great desbt Reater,
Speaker 1: traded to the Cardinals for Rondell Moore. Never play a game,
Speaker 1: Jenny Pickett and so and the number four and their
Speaker 1: fourth pick one twenty to the Eagles for what I
Speaker 1: don't eve understand. I read this ninety eight and two
Speaker 1: seventh and two picks in twenty twenty five. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do it again, read it, Jason, I don't got it.
Speaker 1: I don't have the juice for.
Speaker 6: That, all right, can you pick it? And a fourth which.
Speaker 1: Was the so they sent that right, was.
Speaker 6: Sent to the Eagles for the Eagles second that's the
Speaker 6: ninety eighth pick, and then two twenty five seventh round picks.
Speaker 1: The second is one is ninety eight.
Speaker 6: Their second rounder is ninety eight. Yeah, that doesn't make sense,
Speaker 6: any sense. It could have been a typo, it could
Speaker 6: have been.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, let's google. Let's get that fact check
Speaker 1: real quick. So, just talking through that, obviously not a
Speaker 1: lot of value necessarily for these players. I think Sam
Speaker 1: has the most value. Fred, you were talking about justin
Speaker 1: fields too, and I think even it's interesting that Sam's
Speaker 1: trade value was more than justin fields. So obviously team's value,
Speaker 1: but what does that say about Hey, the quarterback evaluation
Speaker 1: and kind of the NFL is.
Speaker 4: Like stocks by low say a hat we we bom
Speaker 4: we sold him hat. And and one thing about the
Speaker 4: Chicago because of their word each uh, they're stop depleted.
Speaker 1: You were talking about this earlier on the Ticket of
Speaker 1: the Draft podcast. You can also check that out. Fred
Speaker 1: does a great job there analyzing that on the on
Speaker 1: our podcast. But kind of go to that a little bit.
Speaker 4: I just felt like the thing about it is because
Speaker 4: Ryan Poles came out and see it.
Speaker 5: Once he said that we are going to.
Speaker 4: Trade, he automatically dropped the stock you can get like
Speaker 4: you want. Like if I really wanted to get the
Speaker 4: highest drail pick I could for him. I either had
Speaker 4: to trade him early. I got to trade him late.
Speaker 4: I can't trade him in between, though, Like think about.
Speaker 1: This, like before the announced you're saying yes before the announcement.
Speaker 4: I either wait till the season start because every year
Speaker 4: we watch out the week one somebody quarterback is hurt.
Speaker 4: And now I can literally say, give me a second
Speaker 4: rounder for this guy, you.
Speaker 5: Know, because now you at my mercy.
Speaker 4: So I thought what Chicago did was self sabotage themselves
Speaker 4: by talking too much. Right, A lot of people would
Speaker 4: have traded for Justin Fields before free agency started. But
Speaker 4: once you let free agency start and you let Russell
Speaker 4: Wilson side, and then the domino start to fall, you're
Speaker 4: not left with enough suitors.
Speaker 5: Now you better against yourself.
Speaker 3: Or or It's like if you ever watched the like
Speaker 3: that's the CNBC when they're talking about stock market, got
Speaker 3: the guy Kramer who everyone hates. Yeah, and as soon
Speaker 3: as he says a stock is good, high depletes and
Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god. I feel like Justin Field
Speaker 3: had some of that effect. I means, soon as they
Speaker 3: got on him and started talking about where his value
Speaker 3: should be at, you start, you know, fading away, and
Speaker 3: then before you know it, they got to dump him.
Speaker 2: I mean everyone knew that he was going to have
Speaker 2: to go somewhere.
Speaker 3: I mean you almost we was almost one hundred percent
Speaker 3: sure that Chicago was not going to get missed out
Speaker 3: on that chance of getting Caleb Williams or whoever they
Speaker 3: had maybe been in that spot. So I feel like
Speaker 3: the should have just got rid of him way ahead
Speaker 3: of time than sitting there waiting and hold it on
Speaker 3: to him, you know what I mean. So I don't know,
Speaker 3: I mean I still feel that he's in a pretty
Speaker 3: good spot. I feel like now he's in a better
Speaker 3: spot than because now you have a team that can
Speaker 3: win and they might you know, I can't say, Mike,
Speaker 3: I think that staff, especially the new you know or oc,
Speaker 3: he's going to allow him to be yourself. Arthur Smith
Speaker 3: style of offense is going to allow him to be itself.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be interested in watching him and rust
Speaker 3: over there. But he's in a great spot.
Speaker 5: You not so much like the spot, So.
Speaker 1: No, I think I liked the spot for Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: I was a little confused about what the goal was
Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh, but after we talked through it on the
Speaker 1: Ticket to the Draft podcast, it became a little more
Speaker 1: clear to me. Like I'm like, what's the value because
Speaker 1: you're going to lose him, Like he's going to hit
Speaker 1: free agency, right and so like he's going to get
Speaker 1: out of the building. But like you were saying, you
Speaker 1: have kind of a year trial period to kind of
Speaker 1: say this is what he does well, he can work
Speaker 1: with Arthur Smith, and we had to have that inside track,
Speaker 1: you know. We talked about the draft a lot, obviously,
Speaker 1: and one of the things that's hard is you don't
Speaker 1: know how the guy is going to fit in your culture,
Speaker 1: and so here you get him for a six round pick,
Speaker 1: a guy with a lot of talent, a lot of
Speaker 1: potential to kind of see that road map. And for me,
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of silly initially before we
Speaker 1: started talking, because I was like, man, you just kind
Speaker 1: of threw away this pick. He's going to leave next year.
Speaker 1: But that's not necessarily true. You could work the Jordan
Speaker 1: love thing, work an extension instead of signing his fifth
Speaker 1: year option, and maybe have a guy long term and
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith offense. That's that kind of could potentially work
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about how that system in
Speaker 1: terms of throwing over the middle of the field, it
Speaker 1: isn't always right.
Speaker 2: For him, but they evolved.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, if he's been in the
Speaker 1: system for a year, maybe you get there, you feel
Speaker 1: good about it. But the thing I wanted to bring
Speaker 1: up is do you think I thought when Kenny Pickett
Speaker 1: went for what he did, which is essentially they the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh gave up a fourth and Kenny Pickett, yeah for
Speaker 1: a third and two sevenths in twenty twenty five, which
Speaker 1: is basically like a pick swap that that kind of
Speaker 1: set the quarterback value, you know what I'm saying, That
Speaker 1: kind of set the market. So once that happened, it
Speaker 1: became abundantly clear that there was no second round pick
Speaker 1: for Justin Fields. There was no third round pick for
Speaker 1: Justin Fields, like it was gonna be some type of
Speaker 1: pick swap.
Speaker 5: Plains West.
Speaker 4: Sam how Get gets the third with a pick swap,
Speaker 4: like nobody would have seen it two years ago.
Speaker 5: At all these quarterbacks, Sam Howe would have been the best.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's the other thing that we talked about
Speaker 1: this two ten. I like to get your thoughts on it.
Speaker 1: And you know, Fred, we talked about this already. Your
Speaker 1: price point with Sam is controlled I think for two
Speaker 1: more years, right, Unlike Justin who was a free agent,
Speaker 1: knowing that he this year, he has a little more runway, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that's probably a big factor in That's.
Speaker 3: A big factor. And then also you're looking at what
Speaker 3: you're getting. You're getting a guy that's young, that just
Speaker 3: gave you a full year and showed you that thousand
Speaker 3: yards that that you kind of like unsure where his
Speaker 3: his sibling, you know what I mean, Like like if
Speaker 3: you look at the one part of that season last year,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, man, he had something, and then the
Speaker 3: late part of the scene like did he hit a wall?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or did they just leave him out there to
Speaker 2: you know, hang him out of the dry.
Speaker 3: So any team should have went at, you know, saying that, man,
Speaker 3: we bringing a guy in that potentially could start this year.
Speaker 3: But if anything, is gonna be a great backup.
Speaker 4: At the least, he's a the twenty ninth started in
Speaker 4: the NFL. Like he's he's a starting quarterback in the NFL,
Speaker 4: and I think he's just gonna fill in it old
Speaker 4: that hassle.
Speaker 5: Back slot over his body. Bill reminds me.
Speaker 4: Of has to back everything and I can see him
Speaker 4: just stepping in and that being his team for the
Speaker 4: next ten years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that say, oh, well, Sam to develop him here, it
Speaker 1: would have been a nice opportunity. But I also think
Speaker 1: uh Of Peters deserves a shout out too for identifying
Speaker 1: that trade value. And in the draft that's you know,
Speaker 1: top heavy in terms of you know, the top ninety players.
Speaker 1: Adding another pick there and again in a situation where
Speaker 1: we talked about Minnesota and ticket to the draft where
Speaker 1: they could trade up, potentially having another pick there. We
Speaker 1: could kind of sweeten the deal or make it thing,
Speaker 1: so I said, and Fred, you've talked about this, taking
Speaker 1: a guy that you got for a fifth round pick
Speaker 1: and then getting a third round pick in return. That
Speaker 1: is that's that's good business, edits.
Speaker 3: That's when I'm saying, like, that's the first thing that
Speaker 3: stood out to me. I'm like, hey, you know one
Speaker 3: he getting we trade it down. But I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: did you see what we just did with that trade?
Speaker 3: This man was a fifth round pick for we just
Speaker 3: got third in a draft. That man, you never know
Speaker 3: what we can do with that third pick or the
Speaker 3: other picks in front of him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So we just put ourselven situation where we got money,
Speaker 3: we got caves, we got capital, we got liquid. We
Speaker 3: we can do whatever we want. You want, you need something,
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 2: Come on?
Speaker 1: You feel like you know it's it's a great point.
Speaker 1: So awesome job identifying that, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's also a testament to Sam to a
Speaker 1: certain extent. Right, Yeah, like plenty you pointed this out,
Speaker 1: like he played well for he looked like. Remember I
Speaker 1: remember sitting on this show and talking about man, if
Speaker 1: he can continue this for another four or five games.
Speaker 2: He's the He's the He was leading the league in
Speaker 2: yards at one point. Yes, you know, I mean one guy.
Speaker 1: Throws the whole crazy, So I mean obviously very in talent,
Speaker 1: and hopefully that works out for him and hopefully works
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Speaker 1: We're almost there, all right. So now we've got the
Speaker 1: free agent frenzy with theme music apparently, right Jason.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna add theme music to this because we're
Speaker 6: gonna be doing it for a while. And uh, when
Speaker 6: I think of frenzy, I think of like Joel's music.
Speaker 6: I don't know, what do you guys think when it's
Speaker 6: yeah yeah, well.
Speaker 4: You know the music they play. When when when Jason
Speaker 4: chasing you and people always follow on the ground and
Speaker 4: crawl and look back like I just I just think
Speaker 4: of Dundun Dunn.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was thinking something a little bit more optimistic,
Speaker 1: something more not a holly yeah like cool, because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, like this is an opportunity for the team,
Speaker 1: new free agents, new opportunity. It's a frenzy of excitement
Speaker 1: as as well.
Speaker 6: That's how we're saying. I'll put a couple of these
Speaker 6: in here while we're talking about it. Our fans can
Speaker 6: vote for the one they want moving forward, leave a comment.
Speaker 2: Sounds good.
Speaker 1: So let's start with the one that I've been getting
Speaker 1: the most probably comments about. Yeah, right, is Marcus Marriotta. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think some people are very high in the move,
Speaker 1: but more more people I talk to are kind of
Speaker 1: like question the move.
Speaker 4: They're saying, is he identify you? Is he identify you
Speaker 4: who were gonna drink?
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like, so they trying to And I tell people that
Speaker 4: really has nothing to do with it now that I
Speaker 4: think about it, because what if I want my second
Speaker 4: screen quarterback to be a switch hitter, do something different
Speaker 4: than my starter does.
Speaker 5: So at the end of the day.
Speaker 4: I can't look at it identify And plus these top
Speaker 4: three quarterbacks kind of do the same thing in a way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just different different colors.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, different different speeds they do every finger speed, Like,
Speaker 4: Caleb's not the fastes the fansest out of him is Daniels.
Speaker 5: He not the biggest. Daniel's not the biggest because that's Drake.
Speaker 1: Well, and the Drake can run but not as well
Speaker 1: as Cale, but he can throw over the middle of
Speaker 1: the field better. They've all got different ticks, but they
Speaker 1: all I think they all would work in a version
Speaker 1: of the offense that we watched in twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: with Cliff Kingsbury. The question I have is, again, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's an indicator necessarily, Tanna that My
Speaker 1: question to you is like, does this get you excited?
Speaker 1: Do you think he can be a mentor for a
Speaker 1: young guy coming in? And like, how do you think
Speaker 1: that will be? Like for me? I think a mentor?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, we should have kept Jacoby for
Speaker 1: sett Now. I don't think that was an option in
Speaker 1: talking with people affiliated with that with that decision, because
Speaker 1: I think Jacoby wanted to go be be a starter.
Speaker 1: I think that's good for Jacoby, go do that. Do
Speaker 1: you think Mariota fills that Bill is a guy that
Speaker 1: you want in the room with a young player.
Speaker 3: That's a great question, bro, I mean, I honestly, you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm still searching for the answer because I'm I'm
Speaker 3: looking like, Okay, maybe this staff knows something that we
Speaker 3: don't know, you know what I mean, And maybe he
Speaker 3: is one of those guys that they they've seen him
Speaker 3: in the in the room at this position, you know,
Speaker 3: being that second guy, or being a guy who they're
Speaker 3: not gonna really gonna you know, heavenly count on for
Speaker 3: this year to lead us nowhere to be a great guy,
Speaker 3: for a young guy that they can that they can
Speaker 3: lean on, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I haven't I haven't heard that he's one of those
Speaker 3: type of guys. But maybe this the staff knows something a.
Speaker 2: Little more and they know him.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying exactly, so you know, I
Speaker 3: think also getting back to the question of does he
Speaker 3: identify who we're gonna get in the draft, it's another
Speaker 3: great question because I thought when I saw him come
Speaker 3: here then it was almost like, Okay, getting damned because
Speaker 3: they're going to have to make sure he tell him
Speaker 3: listen to this guy, he's gonna tell you, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But then again, like you just said, maybe we want
Speaker 3: to get a guy that can have a little you know,
Speaker 3: difile and then get another guy who's not quite him
Speaker 3: but can do some of the same things and Drake.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, but I'm looking at it like this.
Speaker 3: I think when you have a guy that played amount
Speaker 3: of you know, games that he's played, seen what he's seen,
Speaker 3: being a high draft picks, it's not a bad idea
Speaker 3: to have a guy like that in the building, regardless
Speaker 3: if he identifies with being that kind of a leader
Speaker 3: in the room or not.
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
Speaker 3: And when he gets on the field, he can show
Speaker 3: any guy who's playing that position. Hey, I'm a veteran
Speaker 3: and these are some of the things I've learned through
Speaker 3: the course of me playing this game.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, that's more probably the important thing about
Speaker 1: this signing is like what kind of mentor is And
Speaker 1: like when Jacobe came in, like anybody you talked to
Speaker 1: from Indie, anybody you talked to from Indianapolis, anybody I
Speaker 1: had played with that had worked with him, just had
Speaker 1: nothing but glowing things to say about you. And with Marcus,
Speaker 1: it's not quite that emphatic, how it is, But like
Speaker 1: you know, he, like you said, watching them, he's been
Speaker 1: in the league for a long time. And what I
Speaker 1: find is dudes that have been around, they've got the
Speaker 1: tricks of the trade and then sometimes.
Speaker 2: Like the older you get too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the older you get, the more experience you have,
Speaker 1: the more of those things you have.
Speaker 4: So and I think he's just more quiet and unassuming.
Speaker 4: But I'm sure the guys in the quarterback room.
Speaker 5: He talks to Wave, then he talks to everybody else.
Speaker 5: And you know, if you're holding the clipboard and it's
Speaker 5: got to.
Speaker 1: Come to the sideline.
Speaker 4: He a type guy, sit you down, hey man, this
Speaker 4: is what happened on his plate.
Speaker 5: This is what I saw, and that's what you want.
Speaker 4: You want his perspective in situations, and I think that's
Speaker 4: what he's gonna bring to that youngster in those situations is.
Speaker 5: A grown mind and a grown thoughts.
Speaker 4: And I think this year really showed you, especially after
Speaker 4: watching this year, I think sixty plus quarterbacks started in games,
Speaker 4: so people said, I need a backup forgetting my starter,
Speaker 4: Like if we don't have a backup, the season is gone.
Speaker 5: And I think New York Jets really shocked people.
Speaker 4: After Aaron got hurt and now you got Zach Wilson
Speaker 4: and the season going down the track.
Speaker 3: It was almost like the I am going to cut
Speaker 3: your It's almost like the running back position. At one
Speaker 3: point in time, you just look for those marquee guys,
Speaker 3: and now it's like we need two or three guys.
Speaker 3: We need for show, two guys on our team that
Speaker 3: can carry the load. And so it seemed like quarterback
Speaker 3: is trending that way now too, because at one point
Speaker 3: in time, the quarterback position, these guys are gonna stay
Speaker 3: in the pocket, they barely get in touched. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: know we're gonna protect them. Now these guys getting outside
Speaker 3: the parkt more so, we need another guy. They need
Speaker 3: a guy who's going to come in here and be
Speaker 3: able to lead us come mid season or somewhere down
Speaker 3: the line where our quarterback get nicked up a little bit.
Speaker 2: We need a guy that could come out here right
Speaker 2: now and we don't.
Speaker 5: Have to change the offense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the other question that is kind
Speaker 1: of yet to be determinabill know better as we get
Speaker 1: towards training camp. But is he the guy that you
Speaker 1: feel great about him coming in for you and winning
Speaker 1: some games? And I don't know, you know, like the
Speaker 1: last time he played he was a start in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: He did some good things, struggle with some stuff, but
Speaker 1: in that spot, duty maybe comes in as a little
Speaker 1: bit more productive.
Speaker 4: So we also seen a lot of quarterbacks with Arthur
Speaker 4: Smith's offense down in Atlanta not do well because I
Speaker 4: think they really like took the pass away and just
Speaker 4: ran the ball off.
Speaker 1: So like when you listen is we're getting off topic,
Speaker 1: But when you watch Arthur Smith's offense with Desmond Ritter, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they put so much on the position, like checks, motion shifts.
Speaker 1: We got to move this guy. I got sighted just
Speaker 1: so I gotta work it. And so that's a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so maybe if you kind of get him in
Speaker 1: a different system and it's a little bit more down, yep,
Speaker 1: we'll see another guy Healing Ferrell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, former is the fourth overall ye.
Speaker 1: Back when they were in Oakland, right, Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: have you guys watched him? All I can start.
Speaker 5: I watched he been playing for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: He was in rotation for the forty nine ers, made
Speaker 4: some plays, flashed a little bit. But hopefully he can
Speaker 4: find a home here because he haven't found his niche yet.
Speaker 5: You know how some guys ain't found that perfect fit yet.
Speaker 4: And then coming into the league that I have a
Speaker 4: pick that much fresh, Yeah, yeah, the most definitely overdrafting
Speaker 4: when you overdraft a guy sometime they never catch back
Speaker 4: up to where they're supposed to be. But if he's
Speaker 4: coming here and he's looking and he says, all right,
Speaker 4: it's John Allen right there, Dryn Payne, I got a
Speaker 4: slot right here, and then if I can get in
Speaker 4: here and hold this shlot down, I maybe can live
Speaker 4: up to my draft status.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, to me, it's just he he's uh,
Speaker 1: he's a rotational guy. Being the football player reminds me
Speaker 1: a lot of James Smith Williams when you watch the film,
Speaker 1: kind of like like heavy hands, heavyhead, kind of guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna give you set, a hard edge, has some
Speaker 1: athletic twitch, but a little stiff in the hips. But again,
Speaker 1: like I think when you look at what Dan's done
Speaker 1: in his time and now Went has done with the
Speaker 1: defenses down in Dallas, is they just have a good
Speaker 1: form and rotation. So everyone's gonna be fresh reps, everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna opportunities. And I think that's what it gives you,
Speaker 1: just gives you a piece of you know, maybe not
Speaker 1: have the highest ceiling, but he's got a solid, good
Speaker 1: high floor. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: I mean, you took the words of my mouth. You
Speaker 3: know a rotational guy. He's a guy that you never know.
Speaker 3: He may be surprised us because this defense is going
Speaker 3: to get him opportunity to be in there at times
Speaker 3: when he's fresh and he can go out there and
Speaker 3: get after that quarterback.
Speaker 2: So just a staple.
Speaker 3: Get just another guy that you can add to a
Speaker 3: line that we're trying to fill in voids. You see
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Getting more bodies in that position. And
Speaker 3: when you have a guy, Mama, I talk to you
Speaker 3: about as a receiver, you got certain guys that want.
Speaker 2: To be out there every down. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I remember, and I always had his mindset
Speaker 3: like I'm a guy I'm blazing almost every down. So
Speaker 3: when I ain't get the ball, I'm coming out. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna take that breather because when I come back again
Speaker 3: third down, never know I'm fresh. And it wasn't until
Speaker 3: I got to Mike Shanahan that he saw the same thing.
Speaker 3: But instead of him having me as a starter, he says, look, bro,
Speaker 3: I want you in the third down when you when
Speaker 3: you know you're coming in there to move to change.
Speaker 3: And I look at a guy like this with him,
Speaker 3: You know who knows if he gonna come in here
Speaker 3: and be that starter.
Speaker 2: But the way they run their defense.
Speaker 3: Hey they got you know what I'm saying, You got
Speaker 3: guys man that could come in and just like you know,
Speaker 3: just like when you watch the Cowboys a year ago.
Speaker 2: We used to be sitting up like, who is this
Speaker 2: guy making a damn play? But that's that's what this
Speaker 2: defense allow you to do. So I think he's a
Speaker 2: solid piece you know, saw to pick up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: like you said, part of that rotation. The other guy
Speaker 1: that's part of the rotation is Dante Fowler Junior, and.
Speaker 2: We saw him We're to do something the same thing
Speaker 2: we just talked about.
Speaker 1: I think they kind of fit the same role. I
Speaker 1: think when you look at Fowler, he was a guy
Speaker 1: that I think has more pass.
Speaker 4: Rushed juice outside back of Colin Fair. But this is
Speaker 4: what I do loove when I look at all these Dude,
Speaker 4: I was looking at the list not too long ago
Speaker 4: the other.
Speaker 5: Day all X first round draft like the world so
Speaker 5: you know it's there's some player in there.
Speaker 4: Is in question is the coaching staff probably sit down
Speaker 4: and say can we.
Speaker 5: Can we unlock it can we be unlocked, but the
Speaker 5: other coaches couldn't.
Speaker 3: It's almost like talking about your kids and you hadn't
Speaker 3: seen them turn that coner yet You're like, he got
Speaker 3: my blood. As long as he keeps chipping at it,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, eventually it's gonna come out
Speaker 3: of them. That's how I look at some of these things.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're getting you it's a pattern there, all
Speaker 3: these guys. You're picking up X number two, X number
Speaker 3: four pay off high picks. Yeah, and you're like, why
Speaker 3: didn't they Why didn't we see that over there where
Speaker 3: they was at last?
Speaker 2: And it's all about getting in the right scheme.
Speaker 3: That's one of the things Joe Whitt spoke on first,
Speaker 3: you know, the first day he said in his seat,
Speaker 3: he said, man, look, were looking for the guys that
Speaker 3: we can get.
Speaker 2: And fit what we like to do, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: So obviously these guys have showed them some on film
Speaker 3: that they say, hey, we want that guy because we
Speaker 3: can unlock what he has in himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think the one thing that Dan said
Speaker 1: that sticks out to me too, and Witt said the
Speaker 1: same thing, as we want to like guys with traits, right,
Speaker 1: And so when I look at Quelan Taylor, like he's
Speaker 1: good at seting edges in the run game. Right, He's
Speaker 1: a physical, rotational guy that has value. Let's maximize what
Speaker 1: that is.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I think Dante Fowler has some pass rush juice, So
Speaker 1: can we get him out there as like the third
Speaker 1: defensive end and rush and move him inside, move him outside,
Speaker 1: and like I think about when he was in at
Speaker 1: Florida rush in the past or they moved him all
Speaker 1: over the formation, Like he's not that guy that he
Speaker 1: was in college, but he's got some skills. So again,
Speaker 1: I'm excited that a coaching staff, the coaching staff here
Speaker 1: is a group that can identify traits and say how
Speaker 1: do we maximize this player? Because I want I want
Speaker 1: Cleveland failor in or excuse me on first down yea,
Speaker 1: and I want Dante Faller in on third down? Right,
Speaker 1: So like, how do we maximize those skill sets? The
Speaker 1: guy that I may be most excited for, quite honestly
Speaker 1: is the next guy is Jeremy Chin missed and he
Speaker 1: you know, didn't play a lot last year in Carolina,
Speaker 1: like kind of not an injury, but just more of
Speaker 1: a stylistic difference in terms of how they wanted to
Speaker 1: play their defense. But a guy that was up for
Speaker 1: defensive rookie the year he came in second to Chase
Speaker 1: and you know, I can play that kind of buffalo
Speaker 1: nickel in the box. And I think about what they
Speaker 1: did in Dallas with all of like those big safety
Speaker 1: type guys that cover tight ends, can play in the slot,
Speaker 1: can be a linebacker, and that's what he is. And
Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit more athletically, athletically dexterous, a.
Speaker 5: Little bit more explosive than Cam Curll.
Speaker 2: Bit head bustle wigs split, that's what I call him.
Speaker 2: Head bustle wig exploit.
Speaker 4: Alwa told him right down, we can it, and having
Speaker 4: a conversation with him, he is very sour on what
Speaker 4: happened is eating them up, like it's totally eating them up.
Speaker 4: So he's just chumping at the beat to get out there.
Speaker 5: Improved. Carolina made a mistake, and I.
Speaker 4: Love, like I always asked players, like is it something else?
Speaker 4: This this got you on fire? And he's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 4: first of all, they ain't seen the best of me.
Speaker 4: Nobody has. Catalanda didn't give me a chance to really
Speaker 4: play last year, so I'm fresh, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: fresh and hungry. It's too dangerous mixtures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you like on film even last year when
Speaker 1: he didn't play a Tony kind of reminds me like
Speaker 1: a poor man's Kyle Hamilton a little bit, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, he's this big body that isn't
Speaker 1: quite a line back and.
Speaker 4: Stop using it poor man because I tried to describe
Speaker 4: one of my ex girlfriends as like a poor man's
Speaker 4: beyond saying she like cuts me out, So I just
Speaker 4: stopped using it.
Speaker 1: That's probably would you, with your decision.
Speaker 5: Describe your girl as like a poor man like? Yeah,
Speaker 5: look at her, she looks like a poor man's Beyonce.
Speaker 5: She was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Jason had to make a note over there to make
Speaker 1: sure we're not get in trouble. But yeah, so I
Speaker 1: think I think that So yeah, but I think, but
Speaker 1: I think if you can again, if you have a
Speaker 1: defensive group of coaching staff that can maximize a unique
Speaker 1: skill set and a guy that I think can still
Speaker 1: play like you're watching some of his key players from
Speaker 1: last year, man like hits, gets downhill and moves well
Speaker 1: in space, that'd be an exciting piece for dan Quinn
Speaker 1: and uh and went to maximize it.
Speaker 2: And he's still young.
Speaker 1: Yeah what I'm saying, yeah's his.
Speaker 5: Youth on his side.
Speaker 1: And the great thing he's on a proven deal, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, one for five and in home green. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I like that you said that that's an exciting opportunity.
Speaker 1: So the last guy I haven't watched yet because I
Speaker 1: didn't even know that he signed because so many guys
Speaker 1: have signed. But Noahgogay, way to nail that Banogamy, You're
Speaker 1: gonna mess me up.
Speaker 5: Messed up.
Speaker 1: And now from the Miami Dolphins. And you said you've
Speaker 1: watched him a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The first former first round pick never got on the
Speaker 4: field was because because of those two coners that they
Speaker 4: had down in Miami said could get on the field,
Speaker 4: and he got hurt early in the thing, so he
Speaker 4: was he was hurt more than keep switt at the
Speaker 4: beginning of his grip.
Speaker 5: So this is why he never really got going. Uh.
Speaker 4: But scrown, big, big bonedy cone, fast corner.
Speaker 5: Not as as much of.
Speaker 4: A ball hawk as I would like, but more of
Speaker 4: a PBu type guy. But one of those youthful guys
Speaker 4: that have it.
Speaker 2: I think you know the system.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean was he was with the
Speaker 3: he the first three years of the Dolphins. Last year's
Speaker 3: with the Cowboy, So you know what I mean, He's
Speaker 3: a system guy that they know they can count on
Speaker 3: the coming play.
Speaker 4: He can play nickel, so he could play inside, which
Speaker 4: we have no body solidified is to solidified.
Speaker 1: This is our and the way you described him, kind
Speaker 1: of that big body and there it's important to the
Speaker 1: NFL to.
Speaker 3: Have got a build like like Kwan a little bit
Speaker 3: and got a bigger than a little bigger than Kwan,
Speaker 3: but muscular build, you know what I mean to him,
Speaker 3: I mean it looked like he could run around a
Speaker 3: little bit. He only got one exception. But you know,
Speaker 3: like I talked about bodies, talking about guys coming in
Speaker 3: here that can feel a void. I mean, you need bodies,
Speaker 3: you know. It's one of the things we talked about
Speaker 3: in the secondary loan, especially the way they play the ball.
Speaker 3: I want to see this physical style of play. So
Speaker 3: obviously they believe he could come in here and and
Speaker 3: bring that kind of play.
Speaker 4: Since when you have guys like a manual full who's
Speaker 4: more on the skinny side. I need to add somebody
Speaker 4: over there with some boat to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's awesome with free agency to kind
Speaker 1: of see these pieces coming. But I think the thing
Speaker 1: I'm most excited for now is, like, you know, off
Speaker 1: season workouts, Like how do these guys start implementing into
Speaker 1: these different roles and can they find spaces and how
Speaker 1: do they maximize within this defense. Another two guys I
Speaker 1: thought we should talk about returning guys, not very familiar guys.
Speaker 1: Jeamie Reeves and Jamison Crowder both re signed to the team.
Speaker 1: I think those are great signings. Yep, let's clop that up.
Speaker 1: Give him around a pla. I appreciate them, boy, because
Speaker 1: you know Jeremi Reeves special teams ace. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you know pro bowler at.
Speaker 5: That coming out with injury.
Speaker 4: Glad for him because he's when people say hort and soul,
Speaker 4: one of them hot soul guys.
Speaker 2: And proud of crowded.
Speaker 5: Crowded.
Speaker 4: Didn't he have a team at the beginning of last
Speaker 4: year and he ran. He returned like I need a job.
Speaker 3: He returned, and he also showed them offensively there I
Speaker 3: can be your slot guy.
Speaker 1: You need me to be so and talk about a
Speaker 1: guy that kind of fits that. You know, like both
Speaker 1: those guys m Crowder, Uh, you know obviously playing that
Speaker 1: slot role had a really dynamic and forget which game
Speaker 1: that was, but really productive. And then Reeves I thought,
Speaker 1: just did a great job at times being that kind
Speaker 1: of Buffalo nickel player another body that's.
Speaker 3: Alshow probably was the most physical defensive back we had
Speaker 3: last year. When he got in the game, like, he
Speaker 3: showed that grit, he showed that tenacity, he showed how
Speaker 3: Joe Whit said he going to come to the game,
Speaker 3: you know, he wanted he wanted he wanted them guys
Speaker 3: to be you know, wake up that morning and chose violence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's how Reeves played the game.
Speaker 3: He played like that on special teams, played that way
Speaker 3: in the secondary. I won't be surprised that they try
Speaker 3: to use him the secondary a lot more, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, because I think he has that he
Speaker 3: has that ability to go out there and be more
Speaker 3: valuable to this team, to this secondary.
Speaker 2: The way they played the game, I think that fits
Speaker 2: re style of play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I think we're optimistic. We should be optimistic.
Speaker 1: It's in the offseason, but still got a lot of
Speaker 1: growing to do, a lot of things to come together,
Speaker 1: but we're excited about some of these mops. All right,
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Speaker 1: Washington today. All right, so now would you rather? And
Speaker 1: I think, are Jason you coming on this? Let's see
Speaker 1: what we got here? He's getting his headphones on. He's
Speaker 1: not it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm in not.
Speaker 5: Just regular Jason, regular, Jason facilitated.
Speaker 1: It's Jason Kuiper, right, Yeah, No, that's the other show
Speaker 1: that's sick of the draft. So we'll keep just.
Speaker 6: Reading Game Manager right here.
Speaker 1: So what's the point of the segment, Jason? What we got?
Speaker 6: All right? So the point of this segment is with
Speaker 6: the draft coming up, there are a lot of teams
Speaker 6: in the quarterback in the draft, right, It's assuming we're
Speaker 6: taking in quarterback a number two, that's you. Overall consensus
Speaker 6: but there are options that are out there that are
Speaker 6: floating out there. There's a lot of moves that have
Speaker 6: been going around in the NFL. There's some teams that
Speaker 6: clearly need a quarterback that need to move up to
Speaker 6: get one.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: So with all the shuffling that's been going around, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna ask you, would you rather have this quarterback or
Speaker 6: this draftable rookie quarterback?
Speaker 5: All right? All right? Cool?
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna ask you these based on some teams
Speaker 6: that need a quarterback. So, for instance, here's the first one,
Speaker 6: the Raiders. They have Gardner Minshew Mississippi Mad Would you
Speaker 6: rather have Gardner Minshew, Zippy Main or move up and
Speaker 6: get a JJ McCarthy or Michael Pennock Junior.
Speaker 4: I like to be realistic in my approach to this.
Speaker 4: I think JJ will be gone.
Speaker 1: They gotta move up.
Speaker 4: Though I would say, if I close my eyes and
Speaker 4: think about it, I will rather have Michael Pennix Junior.
Speaker 4: He looks like a Raider. I'm just saying because he
Speaker 4: Michael Pennick Jr. He might be besides JJ the most
Speaker 4: I'm ready to start now the back like I'm ready
Speaker 4: to start.
Speaker 5: The day I come in there all right. He got
Speaker 5: some age on them, maturity all right.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: He the only lifty after group. He can make every
Speaker 4: throat he spend it out, he could spind it. So
Speaker 4: when I closed my eyes, I could see Michael Pennix.
Speaker 5: Walking out of the tunnel as a raider. I don't
Speaker 5: see JJ is a raider.
Speaker 1: You pretty boy for that pretty boy, for that town.
Speaker 5: What you got.
Speaker 3: I like Pennix too, but I would say right now,
Speaker 3: for this team, I don't think they have the capital.
Speaker 2: Or they need too many pieces to be moving up
Speaker 2: trying to get a quarterback.
Speaker 3: So I would think I would take I would take
Speaker 3: the mustache. I mean, he looks like a rated to
Speaker 3: the way he plays like a raider. He's he has
Speaker 3: that grit bottom. He's gonna go out there and get
Speaker 3: those guys fired up. He had a little Heinekey in him,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like he got that same
Speaker 3: kind of little thing that Heineke has.
Speaker 2: Just go play, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He went over crowds everywhere he goes, so he's gonna
Speaker 3: have he's gonna have some success over there.
Speaker 1: And for me, and this is in the perfect role
Speaker 1: to what I do is I keep Minshew and I
Speaker 1: draft Jjjcarty and I let JJ McCarthy sit for a year,
Speaker 1: is what I would do, because I think while I
Speaker 1: think JJ McCarthy's extremely talented, I think he's he's not
Speaker 1: where I wanted to be from a development standpoint. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can get there one hundred percent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he could be. You could end up being
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in this class because, like when you
Speaker 1: watch his tape, high level production on third down and
Speaker 1: pushing the football in the pro throws, pro concepts. So
Speaker 1: a guy that I like a lot. So that's how
Speaker 1: I would do it. I would keep Minshew and then
Speaker 1: I would have JJ sit for a year, and then
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, I'd be like, it's time for
Speaker 1: me to roll. And then I do think Michael Pennix,
Speaker 1: to Fred's point, Ken Spinett, but I don't know. There's
Speaker 1: something about the way he sees the middle of the
Speaker 1: field that gives me that gets me nervous. But if
Speaker 1: he's there in the second round, I think you jump
Speaker 1: all over that and kind of operate under the same principle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, I have him the next one here.
Speaker 6: Our division rivals to Giants currently have Daniel Jones and
Speaker 6: Drew Locke on the Rocks.
Speaker 1: Stinks.
Speaker 6: They're picking at six. They're picking at six, so the
Speaker 6: chance of them getting a Jaden Daniel was there, Drake
Speaker 6: may pretty nil. Would you rather have Daniel Jones and
Speaker 6: Drew Locke or have them move up?
Speaker 1: Daniel? What if the trade package? What if the trade
Speaker 1: package was you get Daniel Jones and a first round pick.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and you get it's like
Speaker 1: as like you got a player and two picks to
Speaker 1: move up so they could take u they could take Daniels.
Speaker 4: Listen, their room is constantly is it is today, It's
Speaker 4: the worst room in n NFL.
Speaker 5: Let's be honest. It stinks. Now what is male?
Speaker 2: Like a baby's pam now bit his tongue a little bit.
Speaker 5: But I also like to say, you know, really, listen,
Speaker 5: who would look good in that that that blue, that red,
Speaker 5: that white.
Speaker 4: I could see Drake may Rock he would he would
Speaker 4: look He would actually look Drake maybe like he built
Speaker 4: for that.
Speaker 3: Like Jones from Carolina too, isn't he Yeah, yes, play
Speaker 3: from somewhere over there.
Speaker 4: So he just looked like a giant. He looks like
Speaker 4: a giant quarterback. When I if I got to pick
Speaker 4: out a Drake May and Jr.
Speaker 3: Day, Yeah, yeah, I would say, I would say Drake
Speaker 3: May find a way to move up and get Drapan.
Speaker 3: I think I think he fits what they do over there,
Speaker 3: like like you close your eye, like like if I
Speaker 3: want to close my eyes and vision somebody in that uniform,
Speaker 3: because every time we go in that stadium is just Drewry.
Speaker 2: So he looks like back that fits in that big,
Speaker 2: big arm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't matter what the weather is, don't matter how
Speaker 3: down it is, he gonna go out.
Speaker 2: There and play good football. Yeah he fits that man.
Speaker 1: Make another poor man in comparison. But you know, Jaydon Daniels,
Speaker 1: Drake May, excuse me, poor man of our guy Josh
Speaker 1: Allen up in Buffalo. You know what I'm saying, a
Speaker 1: little bit less athletic arms, not quite as live. But
Speaker 1: how does some of that playmaking grit to him?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: And I think that that's something that Brian dave Ball
Speaker 1: would just fall over himself to get because.
Speaker 2: It would be surprised.
Speaker 1: Either. One of the things about uh got some messal
Speaker 1: on these danners up Daniel Jones, is that he doesn't
Speaker 1: throw the ball over the middle of field very well.
Speaker 1: And when you look at our guy Drake may like
Speaker 1: that is where he is. I think if I'm Brian
Speaker 1: day Ball, I'm probably like, I don't really like what's
Speaker 1: going on the problem is they just paid dannage On
Speaker 1: so much money.
Speaker 4: Yeah they got they only they only only hooked for
Speaker 4: this year, like after this year they'll be fining. And
Speaker 4: don't forget they signed Brian Burns. I got him opposite
Speaker 4: temple though. This when the Giants turn it on, when
Speaker 4: they have they rush in. So now they probably feel
Speaker 4: like we're one quarterback away.
Speaker 6: Does the Giants moving up with trading with us?
Speaker 5: We're not going to do it.
Speaker 2: We're not if we do do.
Speaker 6: It, what's the tax for that?
Speaker 5: All? I want?
Speaker 6: How much? You asking?
Speaker 4: What they got the number five, pick six, pick six six,
Speaker 4: give me number six, give me your number two, you
Speaker 4: second round pick and number one probably after that number one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it'd be a big it'll be a big pick,
Speaker 2: come get it. But I can see it. But I
Speaker 2: could see that, like, come get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't feel bad at getting
Speaker 3: the number six pick. If it we're gonna get all
Speaker 3: that I know we still need a quarterback. And if
Speaker 3: you're not sure about the next two guys, I feel like.
Speaker 4: It's one tackle and you know at least a wide
Speaker 4: receiver of being the top five, you know at least somewhere.
Speaker 5: So from seeing that six, I'm gonna get somebody.
Speaker 1: And also that then have three second round picks in
Speaker 1: the top what you could trade back you first and
Speaker 1: if like you know, Bonnicks or JJ starts sliding a
Speaker 1: little bit like what we got. So I do think
Speaker 1: there's I know we're dealing, we're fast dealing there, but
Speaker 1: we can we can make something happen there.
Speaker 2: That will happen when you have capital, man, you have picks,
Speaker 2: you can do what you want.
Speaker 6: Adam Peters is really.
Speaker 2: Boy, you hit me all right?
Speaker 6: The Broncos they currently.
Speaker 1: That is the most interesting one.
Speaker 5: I think, let's ride.
Speaker 6: Do they do they trade up? Did they trade up?
Speaker 6: Would you rather have Jared Stidham or Drake may or
Speaker 6: a bone next to you?
Speaker 5: Do they win.
Speaker 1: Fourteen?
Speaker 6: I'll look it up to be a jack bath.
Speaker 3: I know they will to do something. They might they
Speaker 3: might get you have ownership right now.
Speaker 1: They say they don't have any pick twelve of twelve.
Speaker 5: They gave him off for Russell.
Speaker 4: All right, So maybe I see I see bow Knicks
Speaker 4: going up there his first press conference, let's ride.
Speaker 5: I can see boat.
Speaker 1: Knicks as that bronco I picked for him.
Speaker 4: I understand, But we're talking about a head coach in
Speaker 4: his mind. I'm a quarterback guru. Look, and I have
Speaker 4: a quarterback with a lot of snaps under his belt
Speaker 4: college wise. In bow Knicks, I could plug him in
Speaker 4: and protect him with this defense in his run game
Speaker 4: and let him grow slow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't got I ain't got a lot to give.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and say, you canna have part
Speaker 3: ownership in the team, and I'm gonna need a their
Speaker 3: wall pick. I'm gonna go get Drake may.
Speaker 2: Gotta throw something, throw something out. I'm being funny, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But man, I see them going not with not with
Speaker 3: Buddy Jared in the damn quarterback talking about ride with him.
Speaker 3: So I don't kill I don't care who Sean Payton
Speaker 3: think he is. He ain't doing nothing with him.
Speaker 1: So with seump with uh with Garrett saidam they won
Speaker 1: like six of eight games two years ago. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? In New Orleans when he was coaching
Speaker 1: on Yeah, he just gets you know, he just pulling
Speaker 1: strings and making so maybe he's like, I'm that dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an indoor, indoor stadium. So I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: you know a lot of that stuff played the role.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, Drake man't go get them.
Speaker 6: And now we have the the Vikings. They're picking at
Speaker 6: number eleven and they lost, so they have Sam Donald.
Speaker 6: They traded for Sam Donald. So if you're the Vikings
Speaker 6: at eleven, are you would you rather have Sam Donald
Speaker 6: to start the season or do you just get a
Speaker 6: quarterback Daniel?
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think Sam Donald's that bad man.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start this month good. You're right, But I'm
Speaker 3: saying like he's familiar with that offense because your boy,
Speaker 3: who's the head coach over that it came from the ram,
Speaker 3: so he's familiar. I'm sure they probably still will want
Speaker 3: somebody else, you know, other than Sam Donald, but I
Speaker 3: won't feel bad if they get nobody and had to
Speaker 3: start a season with Sam Donald.
Speaker 4: I know you when you would not walk into foot
Speaker 4: locker and buy you shoe.
Speaker 5: You would go in there and say, you know what,
Speaker 5: the freeway shoe. Give me that U shoe. That's what
Speaker 5: Donald is, a huge.
Speaker 1: Shoe, meaning Sam Donald.
Speaker 3: No, but my thing is with all these guys, and
Speaker 3: it's not bad having any one of these quarterbacks because
Speaker 3: with the draft being what it is and how it.
Speaker 2: Had always unfolds, Yeah, you can get one of these guys.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's gonna be a bow Knicks. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be I mean, a Pennix junior.
Speaker 3: Somebody gonna be around. I see when it's happening. You
Speaker 3: want to spend that money, go get them.
Speaker 4: JJ McCarty has proved at Michigan. I'm a cold water,
Speaker 4: a cole Weather quarterback in Minnesota. You gotta play in Chicago,
Speaker 4: you got to play at Green Bay. He is more
Speaker 4: equipped than the West Coast quarterbacks to come into that
Speaker 4: until the Midwest and have no setbacks.
Speaker 5: So if I'm the Vikings, the only.
Speaker 4: Player in the first round that I really care about
Speaker 4: is JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 5: You know, at the end of the.
Speaker 4: Day, he fits everything I need, especially with the I
Speaker 4: mean the head coach they got over there, McLam They
Speaker 4: know how to push the ball down the field. I
Speaker 4: got a number one receiver with JJ with Jeshon Jefferson,
Speaker 4: I got a tight end with TJ.
Speaker 5: Horkinson to make it easy for right now.
Speaker 4: If you plug in JJ McCarty to that Minnesota team,
Speaker 4: they might be a contender.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And obviously he's got some growing to do. But
Speaker 1: the thing that I find interesting is kind of taking
Speaker 1: a little bit of Tennis point and a little bit
Speaker 1: of Fret's point, is what if you feel like you
Speaker 1: get away with Sam Darnald for the season where you
Speaker 1: drop bow next and you let him sit and develop
Speaker 1: and grow in that offense, or Michael Pennix or whoever
Speaker 1: it is at eleven, I don't I don't think you
Speaker 1: trade to get that twenty third pick here from Houston
Speaker 1: without thinking you're going to move up. So I don't
Speaker 1: think this is going to happen. But so obviously they
Speaker 1: don't feel that way about Sam Darnold. But I think
Speaker 1: they are definitely in the court. Like of all these teams,
Speaker 1: because of the actions they've taken so far, they are
Speaker 1: the most in the quarterback market. It just depends on
Speaker 1: how high they can get. And I would think, based
Speaker 1: on like what I've seen on film, Drake May would
Speaker 1: be their guy, which means they'd have to to ensure that.
Speaker 5: They got to come nuts, they'd have to get to two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like what would it take for them to
Speaker 1: go from eleven to two? That would make you happy?
Speaker 1: Saying maybe we don't want to take a quarterback here?
Speaker 1: Like what would it take from then? They'mnisode?
Speaker 5: Hey, Fred, I need you, I need your future.
Speaker 1: I got eleven, I got twenty three. I'll give you
Speaker 1: a second this year, and I got a first next
Speaker 1: year and a first after date. All right, now that's four.
Speaker 1: How about I give you how about I give you
Speaker 1: another two? How beut I give you a first and
Speaker 1: a second next year. I'll give you two first this year. Yep,
Speaker 1: I'll give you one next year. I'll give you a second.
Speaker 1: I'll give you a third round pick this.
Speaker 5: Year, coming end up with three first rounds and two
Speaker 5: second rounds. Yes, five picks to get here. I can
Speaker 5: build a team.
Speaker 1: How about how do we make that? How about we
Speaker 1: make that second next year a third? No, it's got
Speaker 1: to be a second.
Speaker 5: It gotta be a I'm taking nothing less than seconds
Speaker 5: in first.
Speaker 1: How about a third?
Speaker 5: Then a payphon?
Speaker 1: I want to how about a third?
Speaker 2: Effect put the quarter in.
Speaker 5: No, this is what I want. First and seconds.
Speaker 4: Other than that, we ain't talking because evidenty you want
Speaker 4: this guy. You have identified this guy, and I got all.
Speaker 5: The power is in my head.
Speaker 2: You have the leverage.
Speaker 5: So this is what I want you to do. I
Speaker 5: want your future. I want all of it, not some
Speaker 5: of it, Like for the next three years.
Speaker 4: I want to be picking Washington picks in Viking picks.
Speaker 5: That's what I want in case.
Speaker 4: You know what, In case I don't get my quarterback
Speaker 4: this year and I can move up and get your door,
Speaker 4: I can move up and get who I would get
Speaker 4: hot next year.
Speaker 1: I could.
Speaker 5: You know, I just won't leverage and I want maneuverability.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. But it would take it. So I
Speaker 1: guess the point is there five people it would take
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, take a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So that does their last one here leads nice thing
Speaker 6: to your last one. This is the Washington focus. Would
Speaker 6: you rather? Would you rather trade out of that number
Speaker 6: two spot and get that draft capital or just take
Speaker 6: a quarterback?
Speaker 2: That's a good question, is yeah, I'm one of that.
Speaker 5: I'm wanted. People like quality over quantity, because.
Speaker 4: We all know if we pick ten draft picks, all
Speaker 4: ten won't be great pros all right, So I'm going
Speaker 4: to say, do I feel like it's another for show
Speaker 4: quarterback in here other than Kayleb?
Speaker 5: Do you feel like.
Speaker 4: It's one guy that you know, like besides for sure quarterback?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 5: You don't feel like that.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like it's a couple of for sure
Speaker 4: tackles in the dress?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Or like as for sure as you can go?
Speaker 5: Do you feel like it's a couple for sure dns
Speaker 5: in Israel?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: So would you rind a half a for sure tackle
Speaker 4: in a for sure first round d N then a
Speaker 4: questionable quarterback?
Speaker 1: Well? I think this is the thing that I keep
Speaker 1: going back to because people ask me this all the time,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, when you look at the history of
Speaker 1: quarterback evaluation.
Speaker 2: I think this week so hard.
Speaker 1: We need to do a study on this, Like when
Speaker 1: I just need to document them all out, write them down,
Speaker 1: see the production, and then have actual numbers here. But
Speaker 1: it's like less than thirty percent hit right, right, less
Speaker 1: than twenty So as much as I like Drake May,
Speaker 1: as much as I like Jane Daniels, I'm going to
Speaker 1: buy the history a history, set the precedent here, and
Speaker 1: trust that I'm not going to be right here. And
Speaker 1: the thing that does work consistently is good teams. Like
Speaker 1: a good team, let Brock Purty chill for a year
Speaker 1: and then Brock Purty became Brock Purtty, right, a good team.
Speaker 1: Let Jayden Daniels develop for a year and then he
Speaker 1: became Jays.
Speaker 5: Allow Pat Mahomes to ride the bench for you.
Speaker 1: And then how do you get a good team? You
Speaker 1: get bild, you murder in the draft, and so you
Speaker 1: got to hit on draft picks. But if I've got
Speaker 1: a lot of high caliber draft picks, not only can
Speaker 1: I trade for free agency assets, but I can get
Speaker 1: good football players or people that are more consensus good
Speaker 1: football players better athletes. Right. So that's the thing I
Speaker 1: keep thinking about, is like if I trade back with
Speaker 1: Minnesota and i get to eleven and twenty three, and
Speaker 1: I've got all these second round picks, right, and I say,
Speaker 1: and I'll probably get on the second from them. Can
Speaker 1: I use two of those seconds and a third next
Speaker 1: year to trade up five spots and pick JJ or
Speaker 1: pick whoever I want? And then is JJ with a
Speaker 1: starting left tackle with a good end with a nice
Speaker 1: additionate linebacker with the starting with Cooper Dejene for example,
Speaker 1: in that second, like, are those five players supporting him
Speaker 1: allowing him to be more productive? Or we get another receiver?
Speaker 1: Like that's where I'm like, that is very very enticing
Speaker 1: to kind of accelerate this process.
Speaker 4: I would be tempty, like I'd be literally draf day
Speaker 4: my phone wide open, like I would be very tempted
Speaker 4: to say yes.
Speaker 1: It would need to be a good offer. I would
Speaker 1: need to be more indecisive about the quarterbacks than I
Speaker 1: probably I'm pretty indecisive on him now, but like I'm.
Speaker 3: Going to say the same thing, like you made a point.
Speaker 3: You got Caleb to us, like he's like the show.
Speaker 3: Then I look at Daniels, I look at Drake, McCarthy,
Speaker 3: Pennix and bold Nicks. All those guys fit in the
Speaker 3: same circle to me, same group.
Speaker 2: I mean, I.
Speaker 3: Truly believe that hitter. You can miss some eat to
Speaker 3: eat one, but they all good. They all have talent,
Speaker 3: they all have potential. So if I can use my
Speaker 3: leverage with this second.
Speaker 4: Round pick and the add motality and add more talent
Speaker 4: and add and be able to get a team willing
Speaker 4: to give.
Speaker 2: Me whatever I want, Yeah, why not?
Speaker 3: Why not go and say, look, man, I can add
Speaker 3: the pieces on the offensive line.
Speaker 2: I can get more picks.
Speaker 3: And willing deal later on in this draft with those picks,
Speaker 3: and I could get more picks for next year, for
Speaker 3: the future, and maybe find another guy that if this
Speaker 3: quarterback that I found later in the first round or
Speaker 3: later in the second round that doesn't work.
Speaker 2: And get that, like you're talking about your doing somebody
Speaker 2: next year?
Speaker 5: Yeah, why not?
Speaker 3: Especially now you're getting a chance to build the foundation
Speaker 3: a little more. You're getting to put getting to add
Speaker 3: more pieces to the to that line that's needed, or
Speaker 3: to your defense, or to you know, wherever it may
Speaker 3: be able to need to be filled. So I think
Speaker 3: you're in a great spot. And this isn't for podcast reasons,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. We're just in the here talking.
Speaker 3: Who knows what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Let's make sure fans are clear threatened to kill.
Speaker 3: Me that we're just talking. But when you really think
Speaker 3: about it, if you're not so keyword sold on those
Speaker 3: next two guys, if you ain't in love bro, who man,
Speaker 3: look and you think one of those other guys might
Speaker 3: be around, if you're trade back, yeah, hey, shoot your shot.
Speaker 4: You got to ask yourself, if I plug a quarterback
Speaker 4: in here right now, are we will contending? That's the
Speaker 4: big question you have to ask yourself. Uh, I need
Speaker 4: a left tack corner. I need a I need an answerusher.
Speaker 1: Different edge.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I need things.
Speaker 1: Just see more talents. You just see more talent on
Speaker 1: the roster. Yeah, And that's how you get That's one
Speaker 1: of the ways to get it is to get more
Speaker 1: draft capital. And I think Philly the next one job
Speaker 1: of this model. A couple of years ago, they looked
Speaker 1: like they were on fire. Then they drafted, well, they
Speaker 1: got a who bunch of pieces in there, quarterback developed,
Speaker 1: they got healthy at the right time, and now they're
Speaker 1: one of the They were one of the best rosters
Speaker 1: in football teaeers.
Speaker 5: And we know this as a fact. Every year it happened.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be two players that was supposed to be
Speaker 4: in the top twenty. I was one of those guys.
Speaker 4: It's gonna fall Jason Carler last year failed.
Speaker 5: So I gotta have this way.
Speaker 4: I think them sickond round picks we got in our
Speaker 4: back pocket.
Speaker 5: That's the amo in case somebody falls.
Speaker 4: For Sean Nula, somebody falls and I need to get
Speaker 4: back in the first round to go get these guys.
Speaker 5: I think this delivered. You always want to have the.
Speaker 1: Other thing I think about too, and we've talked about
Speaker 1: this a ton on Ticket of the Draft podcast, But
Speaker 1: quarterback development and environment are so important. And is this environment,
Speaker 1: it's a roster and it's current iteration good enough to
Speaker 1: support a young quarterback's development. Are they able to elevate
Speaker 1: the roster? And that's the thing that I come back to,
Speaker 1: is like, maybe you need more pieces around the guy
Speaker 1: right to make it work. And again, like those are
Speaker 1: the questions. That's why Adam gets paid a ton of money,
Speaker 1: and that's why we sit here and do a podcast.
Speaker 1: Why you gave Because that's a hard decision.
Speaker 4: You give your young quarterback diverse running game. I got
Speaker 4: a thunder and lightning in the back for you. I
Speaker 4: give him my young quarterback the center he needs so
Speaker 4: he don't have to do any of the calls. I
Speaker 4: got an interior they's set up. I got cosmic, foundational
Speaker 4: guard on the right.
Speaker 1: I got my left guard, gritty, good pronunciation there, brother one,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 4: I shot the learning institution. I got the tight end
Speaker 4: over here with how much play no matter what. So
Speaker 4: I got some stuff set up for this guy's arrival,
Speaker 4: but does it make me a playoff team? And if
Speaker 4: it doesn't, I have to seriously think about I might
Speaker 4: need to trade down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's why Man Adam good luck, Man supports
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