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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase Utley and this is the Phillies Show. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury,

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Speaker 1: Todd's a lucky It's Thursday, July twenty fifth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Phillies have a day off today. They just finished a

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Speaker 1: six game road trip. A lot of things happening, but

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Speaker 1: we have some news that we would like to announce,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna let Ruben make the big announcement.

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Speaker 2: Ruben, what do you got for you? What do you

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Speaker 2: got big? Big news?

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Speaker 3: We're we're super excited about joining the Foul Territory Network.

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Speaker 4: We will be immediately joining.

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Speaker 3: Them, and listen, this is a Foul territory, obviously fair

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Speaker 3: territory with Ken Rosenthal, Dodgers Territory, Alta Rizzo, my good friend.

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Speaker 3: You have the Northside Territory and Hammer Territory. They're all

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Speaker 3: under that umbrella. We're excited to join this family. You

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Speaker 3: can just continue to watch and to listen to us

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Speaker 3: as you normally would, but we might be on their

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Speaker 3: show as there's gonna be a you know, liter interaction

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Speaker 3: between all.

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Speaker 4: Of these podcasts.

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Speaker 3: But we're so excited to be a part of it,

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Speaker 3: Scottie Brawn, Mark Wiener, all types of guys that have

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Speaker 3: a ton of experience in this area, and we're excited

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Speaker 3: to join that family.

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Speaker 4: Pretty cool stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really really excited and happy. Thanks to Mark and Scott,

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Speaker 2: Thanks to you guys. We kind of launched this on

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Speaker 2: a whim right around opening day, and we're very very

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Speaker 2: grateful to the folks who have watched and listened to

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Speaker 2: our episodes. They really pump us up. And thanks to

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Speaker 2: you know, everybody who's watched and listened, we're able to

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Speaker 2: move with this opportunity. So it's really fun and great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been fun. I ran into a couple of

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Speaker 1: fans outside target Field, Father and Is, two boys, and

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Speaker 1: they they said they listened to the show and and

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Speaker 1: uh so it's it's been cool to see that. And

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Speaker 1: don't worry, it's gonna be the same show. Uh, Jim

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Speaker 1: and Ruben will still drop their sophomore Smell You Later

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Speaker 1: at the end of every episode, so don't worry, that's

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Speaker 1: not going away. We'll still be uh, we'll still be

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Speaker 1: doing the same stuff that we always do, but uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll have a lot of that great support and that

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Speaker 1: kind of you know interaction and.

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Speaker 2: We'll still be talking burgers.

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Speaker 1: Oh come on, cherry bourbon sash.

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Speaker 4: That will never never stop.

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Speaker 3: And I will tell you that I did try that

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Speaker 3: little juicy Lucy.

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Speaker 4: You did that.

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Speaker 3: I did it actually with one of those impossible burgers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic, that's not I know, I know, but I

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Speaker 1: had to do it because I'm trying to, you know,

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Speaker 1: work on my you know, cholesterol a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You're eating, you're reading trying to plant base.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to go I'm trying to go plant based now,

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Speaker 3: not all the time, okay, but I'll tell you what

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Speaker 3: it was outstanding.

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Speaker 2: You're reading Surprise for Surprise after.

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Speaker 1: That bike Juicy Lucy Man Minnesota. That's that's there they

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Speaker 1: claim to fame, you know. Speaking of Minnesota. Uh, As

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Speaker 1: I was leaving last night, flew back to Philly last night,

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Speaker 1: I was at the airport and uh, I did not

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Speaker 1: know this. There is a Prince store in the Minneapolis airport.

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Speaker 1: And I am a huge Prince fan.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite movies. I guess loving Purple Rain.

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Speaker 1: So if you're not, if you're listening, it says T

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Speaker 1: shirt says peace and love, and purple rain. So uh,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't resist. That had to be my my souvenir

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Speaker 1: but but that was my That was the gift to myself.

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Speaker 4: Prince brilliant man. Yeah, the artist.

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Speaker 1: They've got some great They've got some great murals down

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Speaker 1: by the by target field. So I checked those out.

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Speaker 1: I posted them on my personal Instagram accounts.

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Speaker 4: So good time.

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Speaker 1: Not so good for the Phillies. I was no, guys,

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Speaker 1: if we're going to segue from Prince to the Phillies,

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Speaker 1: they dropped two out of three. They went two and

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Speaker 1: They weren't helped by the offense on this road trip,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have some concern. I mean I was.

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Speaker 2: I thought Bryce Harper was irked after that game yesterday

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Speaker 2: I think you should be irked because, like you said,

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Speaker 2: that should have been a four and two road trip,

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Speaker 2: not a two and four road trip. They gave away

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Speaker 2: You know. I looked up some numbers since the break,

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Speaker 2: and I know it's a really small sample, but sure

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Speaker 2: Their bullpen is walking six point three batters per nine.

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Speaker 2: That's the highest in the Major League since the break,

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Speaker 2: small small sample size, but especially the control and the

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Speaker 2: lack of thrown strikes has really hurt this team in

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Speaker 2: you gotta go down to the fighting chance, and if

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Speaker 2: fight chance. So is it fatigue? Is it just a

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Speaker 3: And I talked to my dad all the time, and

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Speaker 4: You put yourself in a position.

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Speaker 3: To let teams get back into games. You you bring

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Speaker 3: the team more than any other situation I think. I mean,

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Speaker 3: And so when you don't close out the game, and

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Speaker 3: you know, Nola pitched his heart out that game, and

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Speaker 3: And I mean, this is a guy who pitched his

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Speaker 3: but if you're not throwing strikes, and you're not throwing

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Speaker 3: So sort of he's sort of been pushed back into

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Speaker 3: In that bullpen, as you said, Jim, but I really

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Speaker 1: Then, yeah, because right now you have strom Hoffman, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned Alvarado struggling, Soda struggling, kirkering Storyglan Domingez is struggling,

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Speaker 1: So then what what I think what a lot of

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Speaker 1: I think the Gregory Soto thing is was really disappointing

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Speaker 1: this week because Rob wanted to give him an opportunity

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Speaker 1: ninth inning, Alvarado struggling, We're going to give you a

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Speaker 1: night and of course Wednesday, boy, you wonder if he's

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Speaker 1: going to ge it back out there and get another

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Speaker 2: But in addition to bringing in somebody from the outside,

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Speaker 2: which I think we're all in agreement that we believe

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Speaker 2: they will. They need to turn around from this current group.

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Speaker 2: One guy is not going to do it. One audition

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Speaker 2: around a big turnaround from the current group. It starts

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Speaker 2: with strikes, It starts in it. Then it leads to performance,

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Speaker 2: and then it leads to confidence. Because I see a

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Speaker 2: unit that just is lacking confidence because they have not performed,

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Speaker 2: and that does radiate through the whole team. It's so

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Speaker 2: demoralizing to lose games late, to lose games that you

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Speaker 2: should be winning. You could hear it in Bryce Harper's

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Speaker 2: voice after that game. I mean defense was a play

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Speaker 2: in the outfield, Marsh. I mean that's a tough play,

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Speaker 2: but it's a play that championship caliber teams make. It

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Speaker 2: the average teams, the middle of the road teams don't

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Speaker 2: make the backbreakers. And that would have been been a

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Speaker 2: big play for that team. Day off Thursday, good time

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Speaker 3: Seventeen different deals getting thrown thrown together, and it's it's.

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Speaker 4: That's right, That's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually I'm sure that they're you know, poking

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Speaker 1: want to win now. So you know, all those guys

439
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse are staying the same thing, Aiden, I mean,

440
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: Aid Miller, Come on, Justin Crawford, You're not gonna You're

441
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: gonna You're not gonna get so and so to because

442
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: you want to keep Justin Crawford, who might or might

443
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 1: not turn out in a few years. It's it really

444
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: is a fascinating dynamic in that clubhouse.

445
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 3: All I know is one of my coolest moments is

446
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 3: when I got to standing oh walking into that clubhouse

447
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: that one day Arizona.

448
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 4: You know how and you.

449
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 3: Know how important it was to those guys for us

450
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 3: to deliver.

451
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 4: And I will say that was one of the.

452
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 3: Coolest moments I had as a GM because we ended

453
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 3: up getting players that that they knew would help them

454
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 3: and and and that was pretty gratifying.

455
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 2: Ruben, I was. I was in Seattle that day, so

456
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: that was the day you completed the Cliff Lee trade.

457
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 4: YEP.

458
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 2: Correct, and Cliff Lee, and I say this with all

459
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: due respect to everyone involved, he was sort of the

460
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: the runner up prize, the second place. I am good,

461
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: second place prize. But you had stud Halliday all along,

462
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 2: and you did a masterful job having plan B on

463
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: the you know, on a parallel railroad track, and it

464
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: was which one can I get to the station. But

465
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: I had been followed on Halliday around. I think I

466
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: went to his last start in Toronto. He walked off

467
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: the field and tipped his hat. Everybod knew he was

468
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: getting traded. They go to Seattle. I go to Seattle

469
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: with him, and I watched him pitch that day, pitched

470
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: good against the Mariners. And right before that, it was

471
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: right before that game started in Seattle time, they showed

472
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: the dugout in Anaheim. The Indians were at Anaheim, and

473
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, cliff Ley is shaking everybody's hand

474
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 2: and you're like watching this in the clubhouse and what

475
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: the hell's Oh my god. Then it's like Cliffley has

476
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: just been traded to Philadelphia. Halliday is in the back

477
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 2: getting stratched. He's gonna go out and pitch this game,

478
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 2: you know, completely disappointed because he wanted to be a Philly.

479
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 2: He knew that was the place he wanted to be.

480
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: You guys put a lot of hours into it, and

481
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 2: it didn't happen, and he pitched his heart out. And

482
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 2: I remember talking to him after that game, and he was,

483
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 2: you know, exhausted throughout this kind of month long ordeal

484
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: as the Blue Jays put him on the trading block

485
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: for a month and it was this major thing and

486
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: it was just you know, grinding on him, and he

487
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 2: just he just wore this look of I remember asking

488
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 2: about it. You're not going to Philadelphia? They got Cliff Lee,

489
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 2: and he was very honest. He was quite disappointed. It

490
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 2: was like a surreal moment. And and you know, down

491
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: in Arizona you're getting a standing ovation. What an amazing

492
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 2: juxtaposition of emotion watching a disappointed Doc Calliday knowing he

493
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: was not going to Philadelphia, and watching that clubhouse where

494
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: Todd was down in Arizona, knowing that the Phillies were

495
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: getting and you were walking through the club I was

496
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: like the conquering hero.

497
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, man was It was a cool moment I must

498
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: have And just having known Doc and how how difficult

499
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: it must have been for him, because he wanted to

500
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: win so badly. He wanted to get Tony new that

501
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: his team, the Toronto Blue Jays, are not going to

502
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: get there. I know that, I know how he is emotionally.

503
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 3: He's a really deep sort of feeler and thinker, and

504
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: I got to believe that it was very difficult for

505
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: him to sort of quote unquote request a trade from

506
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 3: to leave Toronto because.

507
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 4: He loved being there. I mean, he grew up there,

508
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 4: that was his place.

509
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 3: But he but he really, I mean, winning was the

510
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 3: most important thing to him. And I mean we finally

511
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: got him and that was that was a wonderful moment too.

512
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 4: But but I can imagine.

513
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: What he was going through because you know, it was

514
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: something that was really important to him.

515
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 4: He really wanted to pitch in meaningful games in September October.

516
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: Do you guys think this will run right after the deadline?

517
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: Billy's in terms of it, they get a relief and

518
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: a bat Tuesday, Tuesday, three pm. I mean it feels

519
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: like it feels like it.

520
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. I mean they seem to. It seems

521
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: to happen all the time. He goes right to the end.

522
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: Remember that one year I think it was when Omar

523
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: and I are was running the expostolo in early.

524
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 4: One, right, and Cliff Lee was involved in that.

525
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

526
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 3: Cliff Lee went over with the second baseman, that's right, Phillips,

527
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: Phillipson Phillips, And.

528
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: There was another big name in there.

529
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: There's three.

530
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 4: That was a big one.

531
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 3: And we couldn't believe it because Omar was like this,

532
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: this is MLB's team.

533
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 4: They don't even have an owner. We were like, I

534
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 4: cannot believe he just made that deal. That's who we wanted. Yeah,

535
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 4: that was crazy.

536
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 2: Did you do you think the trade deadline? I mean,

537
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: it gets so much attention nowadays. I guess it's a

538
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: lot of the social media, the rumors and NonStop news feed.

539
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: It's gotten more and more crazy over the years. Did

540
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: you did you like it when it was a little

541
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: a little more under the radar or did you like

542
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: it now like it is now where it's just it's

543
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: just so public and it's so difficult to separate the

544
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: good from the bad.

545
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: It's hard to do your job, you know, when you're starting.

546
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 3: And I didn't really let try to let any of

547
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: that social media. Still, social media started really popping towards

548
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: the end of my career there, but I try not

549
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 3: to let it bother me too much. I had to

550
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: just kind of like grind it, you know. I think, Okay,

551
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: let's let's see, let's figure out what we need to do.

552
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: Let's not listen to all the noise. Let me make

553
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: sure that I understand what's going on with this team

554
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 3: and the scouts and uh. And I just love this

555
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 3: part of the season just because you had everybody in

556
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: your department with you and you're trying to figure out

557
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: what's going on and you're trying.

558
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: To get the right fit.

559
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: I mean, it's great to be in this position. It's

560
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: stressful as hell, but it's great to be in this position.

561
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 3: And of all the things that I did as a GM,

562
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: these are the days that I missed the most.

563
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 4: And it's funny. I actually think about this a lot.

564
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 3: I have a group text with all those guys that

565
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: were in that group, the Mike Condos, pro Frock, you know,

566
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: Benny Hooper no longer with us, God rest his soul,

567
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: Pat Gillick and all the Scouts, Mercurio and Howie Freeling

568
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: and you know all those guys. Kerfeld. I mean, I

569
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: still have them on a group text, and Jesse Levis

570
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 3: and Dave Hollins and all those guys I still have

571
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: on a group text, and I you know, sometimes from

572
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: time to time I'll text him and say, man, I

573
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: miss you guys. I miss you guys like none other.

574
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: And Dewey also, I mean Dewey was was. I mean,

575
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 3: I mean all great guys. I'm sure you guys were

576
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: picking their brains a lot and trying to get information

577
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 3: from them, and rightfully so.

578
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: But one of my favorite deadlines, one of my favorite

579
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: deadlines was a deadline. You guys didn't you didn't get

580
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: anything done. It was just very exciting and fascinating. It

581
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: was it was the year you were you were the assistant,

582
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: you were pursuing Andy Pettitt.

583
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 4: Oh, that was phenomenal.

584
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: And Pettitt Todd, had he had struggled, this might have

585
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: been like ninety nine or two thousand, I can but

586
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: he had struggled in New York. And Steinberner goes into

587
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: Brian Cashman. And the reason I know this is Cashman

588
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: told me. I ended up writing about it in the

589
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: fall that year. Steinberner goes into Cashman and says, I

590
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: want you to trade Pettitt that's it. I want him

591
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: out to hear We're unloaded him. So Brian Cashman has

592
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: to make the best deal for Andy Pettt. So Ed

593
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: Wade's the GM Rubins, the assistant, Mike Carbuckle, Gordon Lakey

594
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: was one of their chief advisors. Gordon Lakey loved Andy Pettitt,

595
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: Houston guy right, loved him right and seen his whole career.

596
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: So they go all in to get Andy Pettitt. Reggie Taylor,

597
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: I think Adam eating somebody else's in the deal. Eric

598
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 2: Eric Flent beautiful, beautiful, left handed stroke, great guy. So

599
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: they take this thing all the way to the finish line.

600
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: And in these days, the deadline was at midnight, yep.

601
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: And it was a Saturday night.

602
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 4: We thought we had the deal done.

603
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: Oh, it was a Saturday night and everybody thought they

604
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: had to deal done, including Brian Cashman. So apparently, the

605
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: way Cashman told me the story was George came to

606
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: him like two weeks before the deadline, week before the deadline,

607
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: said get rid of him. Trade Pettitt twenty minutes before

608
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: the deadline, half hour before the deadline, eleven thirty on

609
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: that Saturday night before the deadline at midnight Cnybrenda tells Cashman,

610
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: don't do the deal. We're keeping him, and he had

611
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: to call Ed Wade and say the deals you know,

612
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: we're not doing the deal. The Phillies thought they had

613
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: the deal. It was so close to Carlton Lower, who

614
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: pitched for the Phillies. He wore over forty six. He

615
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: had already volunteered to give up forty six so Andy

616
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: Pettick could wear forty six. This deal was like basically done.

617
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: Steinbrenner called it off a half hour before the deadline

618
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: and the Phillies game in Atlanta. We were in Turner Field.

619
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: The game had been kind of long over. We're just

620
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: hanging around the hallway waiting for Ed Wade to emerge

621
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 2: at the deadline. And he came out, and you know,

622
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: he couldn't say a lot because you know, there was

623
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: still that line you had to crawl tiptoe along because

624
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: you couldn't mention names and things that were essentially prospective names.

625
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: But we all know what was going on, and he

626
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: was very disappointed they couldn't get this thing to the

627
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: finish line. And I can only imagine how you guys

628
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: must have felt, because you put a ton of time

629
00:30:59,040 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: and effort into that.

630
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a tough one, you know sometimes. I

631
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: mean there's so many ebbs and flows. I mean, we

632
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: thought we had Doc. We didn't sure we were getting Doc.

633
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: We thought we were going to get Cliff Lee. Then

634
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: it's off and it's on. I mean, it was, it is.

635
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: It's quite the process. You're you're moving, okay, you I

636
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: can't give you that guy, but I can give you

637
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: this guy with this guy work.

638
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: I mean, there's all types of stuff going on. It is.

639
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: It's quite the process. I loved every fricking minute of it.

640
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: And as I think about it now, you know, I

641
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: probably lost some years.

642
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 4: Going through those, but there are years that I'd never

643
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: mind doing. I'd love to do it again. I mean,

644
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 4: not any boy I want.

645
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: I want to do it again for.

646
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: Me, But the fact that I did it, it was,

647
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: it was just it was really really fun.

648
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: Give me prediction, Todd, What what's what's going to happen?

649
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: Boy?

650
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: My bold prediction?

651
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: How about the Phillies go two for one and get Lane,

652
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: Thomas and Alfin again from the Nationals. They make a

653
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 1: little little old school baseball wheeling and dealing with Mike Rizzo.

654
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: I think I think Thomas. I think Lane Thomas with

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Speaker 2: Brandon marsh put them together, you've got a really nice

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Speaker 3: Totally, that'd be great trade. That'd be great trade. Now,

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Speaker 3: Kyle Finn again, I love him. Never really pitched super tight.

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Speaker 3: playoff situations as he right, you just don't know. Now,

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Speaker 3: you can't throw all you know, you can't. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of guys who haven't pitched in the

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Speaker 3: never know until he's there. True, so, but it's something

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Speaker 2: To no doubt.

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