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Speaker 1: this episode. Um, I can't remember how we found each other,

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Speaker 1: digital space for dark skinned girls, women and fams. So

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Speaker 1: to my guests, how are you doing? I am great.

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Speaker 1: I'm just busy with college work, but I'm doing well,

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Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to talk to everyone and answer

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Speaker 1: it reaches many more dark skinned black women who would

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Speaker 1: benefit greatly from having this community. I mean, almost every

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Speaker 1: I'm so like shocked at how fast my platform has grown.

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Speaker 1: I'm so humbled by the experience and I'm so grateful. Nice, Nice,

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Speaker 1: Well let aspire you to create dark. So I was

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Speaker 1: honestly just tired of the gas lighting. I felt as

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Speaker 1: being told they're just jealous, they're hateful, they hate light

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Speaker 1: would ask for medication, they were like more hesitant to

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00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: give black people like medication and the treatments they need.

430
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: Right now, that's why trust these doctors, because it's a

431
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: known effect of the the how racism exists in gynecology exactly.

432
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: So you see all like how like all these stereotypes

433
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: about black people and like black women in particular, like

434
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: really infiltrate every aspect of our lives. And I think

435
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: that's why serious. It's not just like oh, like semantics

436
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: like black girls are magic doesn't mean this. It doesn't

437
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: mean that. It's that like it's institutionalized, and like people

438
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: really think black women are magic, and not not even

439
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: in the like figurative form, like in the like there's

440
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: something about black women where you can throw anything at them,

441
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: you can do any you can, you can like inflict

442
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: any kind of harm on them, and they okay. And

443
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: if they're not okay, then they're just a defective black woman.

444
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: There's something wrong with them. And if they're not okay,

445
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: that they're just there's just that's just their personal problem.

446
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: So I just love to like just like see what

447
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: we're like reproducing in our own entertainment and social media

448
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: circles and seeing how that's like penetrating or being reinforced

449
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: by what we see like in the medical sphere and

450
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: just how or like in the government and like laws,

451
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: and seeing how what we're saying where we're hashtagging is

452
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: like that really like what tangible impacts that lead to

453
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: for black women. Do you feel like black men who

454
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: have platforms use it to uplift and protect black women,

455
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: not at all. Maybe if you know some some like

456
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the most popular ones, I

457
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's like a nuanced thing because

458
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: I think the most popular ones don't. I think there

459
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: are some like nothing is ever like of these people

460
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: are bad. D percent of that people are like are good.

461
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: And I think the ones who are doing it we

462
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: as a collective, don't make them popular. Like I think

463
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: people are more drawn to messy things, like messy people

464
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: and people who are just like people who just like behave,

465
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: who are just petty. I think rap and a lot

466
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: of black genres of music are just rife with colorism.

467
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: I really like. I think like black like male celebrities,

468
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: they're colorous. And you see that in their dating history

469
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: and their preferences quote unquote preferences. You see that on

470
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: like the memes they post online, how they how they

471
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: react to situations, how like nobody had anything to say

472
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: about mag the Stallion and Tory leaning. That was my

473
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: next question when I tell you I was so disgusted

474
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: and how they treated Megan like I couldn't believe it.

475
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. No, I was just like wow,

476
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Like they were using transphobic rhetoric to like masculine eyes her,

477
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: like paying her as the aggressor while also being like

478
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: very transphobic by saying like if she had been like

479
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: if she had had like a penis, then that would

480
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: mean that she deserved to be shot. And it was

481
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: just a lot of mess. And even Braxton, I think

482
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: it's disgusted. But when it's like Kanye West, it's like, oh,

483
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: we have It's like black men have to experience pain

484
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: before other black men say, oh, like now we have

485
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: to care about mental health. Like y'all didn't care about

486
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: mental health when Azelia Banks despite everything she says, like

487
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: I think he's problematic, but y'all didn't care about mental

488
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: health when she was like saying she was gonna kill herself.

489
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: Y'all don't care about mental health when it's tam or Braxton.

490
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: Y'all don't care about mental health when it affects people

491
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: other than sis het black men. That's when y'all care.

492
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: That's when y'all become the mental health like advocates and experts.

493
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: But besides that, like and I just think there's also

494
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: an empathy gap there because I think black men have

495
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: a harder time empathizing with people who are not black men.

496
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: Like black women can see a black man and be like, Oh,

497
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: that's that reminds me of my son, my dad, my husband,

498
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: my boyfriend, my nephew, my whatever. But I don't think

499
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: that energy is reciprocated for black men, like for like

500
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: black women, when we see black male strangers, it's just

501
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: like oh, like, like that's why when black men get

502
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: killed by the cops, were like, Oh, that could have

503
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: been my son, that could have been my friend, that

504
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: couldn't be that could have been my father, my uncle,

505
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 1: this or that. But usually when black women are killed

506
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: by the hand, yeah, like dealing drugs and like, nobody

507
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: holds place for that. And a lot of these white

508
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: and non black poc allies they also don't hold space

509
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: for that. The privilege just had black men when we

510
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: talk about police brutality, and they think that's revolutionary, but

511
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: it's really not, because I don't remember a time when

512
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: black men weren't the face of the black community, and

513
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: they weren't the face of anti black violence, and people

514
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: weren't advocating for them. My daddy said Malcolm X, the

515
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: molk unprotected woman is the black woman person in the

516
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: world as the black woman exactly. M hmm. What are

517
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: some signs for our professional home girls to look out

518
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: for to see if the person she is dating is

519
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: a color? I think since signs. I think I think

520
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: some guys try to overcompensate with the compliments, so everything

521
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: like beautiful, dark, like chocolate, and it's just like if

522
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: they're doing a lot, then they're probably projecting and they

523
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: probably feel a type of way about themselves. Pretty far girl, Yeah,

524
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: they the same type of way about yourself, and they're

525
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: trying to like reassure you that it's okay to be

526
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: like dark skin. Uh. And I also think another sign

527
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: is if they have if they're heavily emphasizing, like your body,

528
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: if they're like, oh, but you have such a nice body,

529
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: and it's just like okay, Like if they're saying, um,

530
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: some like attribute about like some physical attribute about you

531
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: is what makes you pretty, and you're just not pretty

532
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: in general. It's like despite you being dark skin, at

533
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: least you have this, that and the third, and then

534
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: you have nice hair exactly, you have nice eyes or whatever.

535
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: And then like dating history, I think it is also

536
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: important when it comes to like black men and like

537
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: men in general who might be colorists, like seeing who

538
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: they're they're attracted to in the media. Um, I think

539
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: it is important. So I think those are definitely signs.

540
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: And I think most people just know, like they suspect it,

541
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: but they choose to put up with it because for

542
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: whatever reason. And I even have some people who deem

543
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: me and they're like so and so said, dark skinned

544
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: women are ugly, like are they colorous? And I'm like, yes,

545
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: like you know this, like you know colorists, you just

546
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: because you need to say black women you said dark

547
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: skinned women? Mm hmmm. Um, can you also explain how colorism, tetualism,

548
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: and futurism can all call exists in one Yes. I

549
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: thought that was a really good pulse too, thank you.

550
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: So even within um, like dark skinned black women aren't

551
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: a monolith, and we all look very different. And I've

552
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: always like acknowledged like the privilege I have being skinny.

553
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: I know that social capital and the fat phobic world

554
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: we live in, so they're there for real. There are

555
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: certain features that we'll just get you a pass in

556
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: this world, and like the benefit of the doubt and

557
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: that's definitely having like a thin body and being fat

558
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: or a larger um. Having a small nose is also

559
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: a feature I find, and I've noticed a lot of

560
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: dark skinned girls who have small noses their exotist, exotic size.

561
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: So then people are like, oh, like, but where are

562
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: you from, like or you're like, you're pretty for a

563
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 1: dark skinned girl. And then I think about the dark

564
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: skin celebrities that we all like fawn over, and it's like,

565
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: like they're usually very dark, but like the models, at

566
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: least they're very dark, but they have slimmer features, so

567
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: they have the small noses, they have like the small

568
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: round button noses, and I just think that's like, that's

569
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: something else we have to pay attention to. We don't

570
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: want to be a thing where it's like, Okay, little

571
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: girls are finally accepting their dark skin and they're falling

572
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 1: in love with their dark skinned but now they hate

573
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: their their wide noses, they don't like how their bodies look.

574
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: So it's like we're finding one demon to like be

575
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: introduced to another one, or we're finding multiple demons at

576
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: the same time. So and then texturism is just it's

577
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: just something I've been thinking about a lot, because I

578
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: just I just saw how everyone did light when he

579
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: was just a little girl. And she's sill a little

580
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: girls urging Beyonce to comb her hair like versus how

581
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: they treated Northwest too, has who also would wear her

582
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: hair out, but has a texture that's been appropriate and

583
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: more digestible for people in society. So texturism is also

584
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: a huge thing. And it's not only that, but it's

585
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: also hair discrimination and being like literally fired for the

586
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: way they wear their hair. Black children being suspended and

587
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: exploded from school not being black his hair. Yeah, crazy,

588
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: and it's really it's really crazy. And I just think colorism,

589
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: features and texturism, they all fall under the umbrella of

590
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: colorism in the sense that they're people just ma masculinized

591
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: black women. So if you have coarse hair and it's short,

592
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: they will liken you to a man and then they

593
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: will like something in their mind will be like, oh,

594
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: that person is not in need of protection. Wrong, and

595
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: they can take whatever is thrown at them and they

596
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: don't need no no one needs to advocate for them,

597
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: no one needs for them. So I think no discussion

598
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: of colorism is really complete without looking at futurism. And

599
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: textualism because there's a lot of nuances. You can be

600
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: dark skinned, but you can have features that my um

601
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: appeal to more people than a lighter skinned person with

602
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: wider features that are deemed more offensive to people. So

603
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: it's never really black or white. It's a very nuanced conversation,

604
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: and I'm always careful to not make it seem like, oh,

605
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just this or that, because it's

606
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: never really that simple. Another post that you did that

607
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, that was when you talked about

608
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: the oppressives language and how to identify it amongst black

609
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: people when they embody white fragility. Mm hmmm. I think

610
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: it's so interesting because I was inspired to do that

611
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: post by I kept seeing comments that this reminded me

612
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: of like what white people say. The like we're all

613
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: black people sounded a lot like like we're all human

614
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: beings and like all lives matter. And I think it's

615
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: really easy for black people to be like, oh, that's racism,

616
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: but it's harder to being But it's harder for them

617
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: to say, oh, like I'm being colorist or I'm perpetuating colorism,

618
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: because then they have to admit that they're the culprit

619
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: and they're being harmful themselves. And I think so many

620
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: binaries in society exists that prevent us to prevent us

621
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: from seeing the many intersections of like different dynamics, Like

622
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: you can be oppressed and you can oppress someone else,

623
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: you can be oppressed and the oppressed or in certain situations.

624
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: But I feel like in the society will live we

625
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: live in, it's like either you're either one or the other.

626
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: So a common response to black people who are violently colorist,

627
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: they'll say, but I'm black, but it's the white man's fault,

628
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: or like I'm oppressed, Like what are you talking about?

629
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: But that that all can be true, but you're still

630
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: being harmful, you're still like causing harm, and you're still

631
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: being and colorless, and you're still being violent. So I

632
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: thought that was just super interesting, and I really wanted

633
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: to articulate that for someone, for people because I read

634
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: them the comments people are like, oh my god, thank

635
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: you for articulating this, like in a short, concise way,

636
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: because like I've been thinking about this, but I don't

637
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: really I didn't really know how to package it. So

638
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: I really love when I can do that for black women.

639
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: So they don't feel crazy, like more crazy than they

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Speaker 1: make you feel crazy, right exactly trying to like explain

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Speaker 1: things to people, it was lazy. Do you think allies

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Speaker 1: can help protect black women? I think allies, Like I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's so easy to be an ally because

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Speaker 1: I feel like you just have to put your money

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Speaker 1: from where your mouth is honestly, Like, even you don't

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Speaker 1: know the right things to say, Like even if you

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Speaker 1: can't go, like you don't have to be out here protesting.

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Speaker 1: You can be out here protesting, like if you're physically

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Speaker 1: protecting black people and like like acting as the shield. Um.

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Speaker 1: But even if you don't know like where to start

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Speaker 1: in your ally ship, if you are able to like donate,

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Speaker 1: like not only to these large corporations where you don't

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Speaker 1: really know where your money is going, Like there's tons

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Speaker 1: of crowd funding resources on my page, Like donate to

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Speaker 1: individual black people, Donate to single black mothers, donate to

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Speaker 1: black transfolks. There are always ways, there are always black

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Speaker 1: people in need to you have them too, Like you

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Speaker 1: know black people in need, so like you really need

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Speaker 1: to like just use your money, And I think that's

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Speaker 1: the most effective way you can be an ally, Like

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Speaker 1: you're like, if you're white, like you can't not be white.

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Speaker 1: You can just be like, oh, like I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: stop being white, and then white supremacy is going to

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Speaker 1: go away. Racism is going to go the way. You

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Speaker 1: just have to, like, first of all, unpack your biases

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Speaker 1: so you don't so you don't become someone who just

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Speaker 1: palms black people and deprives black people of employment opportunities

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Speaker 1: and whatnot, black people from accessing certain like just opportunities.

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Speaker 1: But you also need to donate and like put your

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Speaker 1: money where your where your mouth is, because it's either

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Speaker 1: that or give African Americans reparations. Like I don't like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think asking people to like donate to black

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Speaker 1: people is even like that's severe because the country can

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Speaker 1: be doing a lot more. H what are you majoring in.

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Speaker 1: I'm majoring in psych and concentrating and like, oh nice, nice, Well,

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Speaker 1: I want to say that I am super proud of you. Um.

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Speaker 1: I am an avid researcher just like yourself, so I

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Speaker 1: know that it takes a lot of hard work when

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Speaker 1: it comes to create meaningful content. So I am definitely

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Speaker 1: going to include your demo within this episode so that

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Speaker 1: we all can support you with your platform because I

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Speaker 1: think that we need more platforms like this to normalize

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Speaker 1: the conversations that people do not think exist. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to appreciate it, of course. Um. And before

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Speaker 1: we leave, is there anything you like to say to

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Speaker 1: our professional home girls out there? Um, I just like

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Speaker 1: to say, just I've been taking a little break from

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Speaker 1: Darkest too because I noticed that and like trying to

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Speaker 1: get readjusted to just being a full time student. But

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Speaker 1: just keep a lookout for like posts, um of ways

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Speaker 1: like you can support black women in need, black people

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Speaker 1: in need, and just share the top post and just

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Speaker 1: um keep telling people about Darkest to you, because I

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Speaker 1: really want the community to grow and I really want

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Speaker 1: it to be a safe place for Darkest and black

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Speaker 1: women girls and thumbs. Absolutely we have to support her,

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Speaker 1: guys and help her grow this platform because it is

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Speaker 1: a really good platform. So thank you, and if you

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Speaker 1: have any questions, comment al concerns, please make sure to

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Speaker 1: email me a hello at the PhD podcast dot com.

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Speaker 1: And until next time, Later by