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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts RUT Fresh Radio, bringing you

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Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Casey Smith Tyler Jones. This is RUT Fresh

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Speaker 1: Radio powered by Vortex. I'm your host Casey Smith. This

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Speaker 1: week we're talking about overcoming adversity to find early seasons success.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Wired to Hunts Fresh Radio, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Vortex. We are back for another season.

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Speaker 1: This is our weekly episode that comes out throughout all

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Speaker 1: the fall hunting season, breaking down the latest in white

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Speaker 1: tail intel from the cross the country. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: chatting with folks from different regions, learning about what deer

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Speaker 1: doing right now, what kind of tactics are working right now,

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Speaker 1: how different variables like weather, moon, time of year, any

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Speaker 1: of that stuff is impacting deer hunting. This show is

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Speaker 1: all about helping you become more effective right now in

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Speaker 1: the deer woods. So that's what we've been doing for

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Speaker 1: something like seven years now, I think maybe, and it

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Speaker 1: has been I think one of the most valuable things

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Speaker 1: we've brought to the wire Hunt podcast. So they say,

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Speaker 1: if it's not broke, don't fix it, but we've had

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Speaker 1: to fix rough Fresh Radio we're switching it up because

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Speaker 1: all Spencer new hearth, it's no longer with us, and

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Speaker 1: he's and he's kicking, he's alive, heartbeating, he's still out there.

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna hear You're gonna hear some different voices

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Speaker 1: exciting laughter of our two new hosts of Refresh Radio.

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Speaker 1: Spencer is out and Casey Smith and Tyler Jones of

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Speaker 1: The Element are in. Welcome to the show, gentlemen. Thanks Mark,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark. We're ready. We had an obituary and

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Speaker 1: a birth notice all on the same sentence there. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean Spencer, Spencer was great, but I think everybody

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Speaker 1: Year after year. They kept thinking, Man, there's got to

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Speaker 1: be something better than this, and we finally No Mark,

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Speaker 1: I like it Spencer. Spencer did a really good job,

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Speaker 1: and uh and we will miss him. I will miss him,

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Speaker 1: good buddy. But he's moving on up in the world.

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Speaker 1: He now hosts Met the Meat Eater trivia podcast and

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Speaker 1: that takes up a lot of his time, so he

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Speaker 1: simply just doesn't have the bandwidth to do this anymore.

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Speaker 1: So Spencer's moving on up to the meat eater throne,

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Speaker 1: and us here in the Wired Hunt world are bringing

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Speaker 1: the same, right, We're still going to do the same format.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be hearing from folks all across the

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Speaker 1: So I'm Casey Smith. I'm from Northeast Texas. Uh, hunt deer,

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Speaker 1: fall sable. I just to give it some drama, and

426
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: that's exactly what you did. I think you were up

427
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: there hunting with her buddy Chad from Cruiser Saddles and

428
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: uh had the intent of going in and doing just that,

429
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 1: but kind of had to call an audible last minute. Yes,

430
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: yes we did. So we got dropped off early that morning. Uh.

431
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: Greg was the cameraman with me that day, and when

432
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: we got dropped off, I said, Greg, we're gonna be

433
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: super tight on these deer going in because these deer

434
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: in a very uh kind of nocturnal stage right now.

435
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: They haven't lost any velvet, but it's hot in the day,

436
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: so they're just feeding when it's most comfortable and casuals

437
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: to them. So I told Greg, as we're going through

438
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: these beans, we're gonna be right on top of deer.

439
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: So we're not using lights. You just I'm gonna lead

440
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: the way. You step where I step. We're gonna be

441
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: as quiet as we can. And we walked past deer

442
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: twenty yards away. You could hear their antlers breaking in

443
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: the soybeans as they were eating. I mean, it was

444
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: just hair standing type situation. So it sounds funny snug

445
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 1: past some monsters in the dark. I'm assuming they in

446
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: the dark. They at least had to have been two

447
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: inches by by how much soybeans they were moving. We

448
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: got past them, and we're going to set up in

449
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: this bedding area. I dropped a pin on it the

450
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: night before. I was like, man, this is the spot.

451
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: Is about a hundred and fifty yards down to draw

452
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: in a bedding area away from the soybeans. I was like,

453
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna get in here and set up. And once

454
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: we broke the crest of that draw I could hear

455
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: dear relatively close to us within forty fifty yards. Uh.

456
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean we were walking very very quietly and carefully,

457
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: and so I was whispering to grads, like, we can't

458
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: go into the bed and area. They're already in there.

459
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: So let's turn around and go get up on the

460
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: cusp of this this drainage, um and see if we

461
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: can catch some deer coming out of these soybeans. And

462
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: we had a little buffer zone probably or stage in area,

463
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, probably about sixty yards wide. Uh,

464
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: And it was just beautiful habitat and we're working our way.

465
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: We'd only gotten into this drainage maybe forty yards, and

466
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: we turned around and there is a buck skylighted or

467
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: moonlighted on the crust of this ridge. And Greg goes

468
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: to turn the camera on and I you know, he

469
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: kind of forcefully hit him in the chest to stop

470
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: him from from lightness up real bad with the camera.

471
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: And it's just one of those things it just kind

472
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: of takes experience to know, because that buck was working

473
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: his way to us and ended up getting within about

474
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: fifteen yards of us and milling around, and we could

475
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: hear him eating and he eventually worked off. That's what

476
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: happens when you got a good wind and you're super stealthy.

477
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: But we walked up to the crest the crest and

478
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: uh could hear deer around us, and I'm like, you know,

479
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: I talk Greg, I said, it's just too quiet to

480
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: try and get in a tree right now. Is the

481
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: best thing we can do is get on the west

482
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: side of a tree and stay in the shade. As

483
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: this sun starts to come up. We'll just be a

484
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: shadow in the woods and when these deer come out

485
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: of the field will be ready. So that's what that's

486
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: what we ended up doing. And how did that work

487
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: out for you, sir? That ended up with a twenty

488
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: yard on the ground, perfect broadside shot on a in

489
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: my book Monster Tennessee velvet buck. That's what I'm talking about, dude.

490
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: It's so cool, And you know, I kind of have

491
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: a little extra insight into this, just because you and

492
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: I were talking through the whole hunt, and uh, that

493
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: was a well appreciated deer for sure, just because of

494
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: how hard that hunt was for you. I know, Yes,

495
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: So that was actually aside from deer in the dark,

496
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: that was the first buck we saw in legal shooting light,

497
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: so the opportunity was not going to be passed. Hey,

498
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: you're one from one dude on Tennessee doublet bucks. So congratulations, hunter,

499
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: I have a thousand percent that's there. I'll sell you out.

500
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: It's an awesome buck. And it sounds like you had

501
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: the camera guy Gregg with you. So does that mean

502
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: this thing is on film? That means it's on film

503
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be up on the Element YouTube here

504
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: pretty soon. Awesome dude. I'm excited to get to watch

505
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 1: that thing and it's entirety folk show. Uh. So, with

506
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: all that being said, congrats on the great buck in Tennessee. Um,

507
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: as more seasons start to open up, we have, you know,

508
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: like the Kentucky's Velvet season that opens this week. What

509
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: do you expect buck movement to be going forward here?

510
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: With some cooler temperatures. I looked at the actual forecast

511
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: for that area and we're looking at some pretty rainy

512
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: weather really for the upcoming days. Oh man, I wish

513
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: you could see me right now. I've got goose bumps

514
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: on me. That just makes me get that just makes

515
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: me get all excited. Uh. But these cooler temperatures rolling

516
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: in them. Those bachelor groups are gonna break up. The

517
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: bucks are gonna be off for a couple of days,

518
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: losing their velvet. So if y'all losing on camera for

519
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: a while, UH, don't be too worried. They as long

520
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: as you've got your cameras in the right spot, they're

521
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: gonna show back up. But they're gonna venture off, lose

522
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: that velvet, and come back in. Uh, mostly in singles.

523
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: You may have some of your smaller uh more uh

524
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: in mature bucks uh still grouped up in twos or threes,

525
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: But your mature bucks are gonna be getting ready to

526
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: start roaming here soon. That's cool, Yes, sir, established in

527
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: there there their home ranges. So put a number on

528
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: it between one and ten, which you expect the buck

529
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: movement to be in daylight over the next week. Uh,

530
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a lot better. So I

531
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: would say probably i'd expect a six or seven versus

532
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: you know here in the past two weeks, I would

533
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: expect you know, I judged that to be a four

534
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: to five, and I think with the velvet coming off,

535
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a six to seven type situation. It's

536
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be more than favorable. Awesome, well hunter again.

537
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Congrats in the great buck, dude, and I can't wait

538
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: to see what else do you put down this season.

539
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: Oh yes, sir, more monsters coming ye all a way.

540
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: I have got Alex com Stock with whitetail DNA on

541
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: the phone right now. And late at night last night,

542
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: while I was proving the socials, I saw this guy

543
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: post a story picture and it was just an obscure

544
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: angle of a big velvet buck, which is what these

545
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: guys like to do to us, see, like to tease us. Now, man,

546
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: apparently you have killed a buck? Is that correct? I did? Yeah,

547
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: I was able to send an arrow through on us

548
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: for sure. Sweet dude. Congrats man, I know you have

549
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: been working hard out there. That's in North Dakota, right, Yeah, yep,

550
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: we're out in North Dakota. Yeah, so North Dakota. You've

551
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: been hunting for a long time. You're a Minneso, a native.

552
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: Uh so it's just kind of a hot skip and

553
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: the jump over there for you. But it seems to

554
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: have gotten the spot lot as of late. And I'm

555
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: sure there has nothing to do with the big bucks

556
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: you've been putting down out there. But did you see

557
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: a lot of hunter pressure while you're out there? Um,

558
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: we've seen a few people hunting, which, honestly, even though

559
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: just a few people hunting that I would call that

560
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: an uptick over over the past years where it would

561
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: be maybe not seeing anyone else on him. Yeah. Yeah,

562
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: did you see that that was affecting buck movement as

563
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: you were scouting and kind of leading up to the hunt? Um,

564
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not, I don't. It could have especially

565
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: opening night, Um, I was going after a particular deer

566
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: and had someone get dropped off and shoot right into

567
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: where I was, um expecting the buck to be betted.

568
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: So that might have affected it. But that's more of

569
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: a I wouldn't call it a general generalization of like pressure,

570
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: more so isolated case of someone going right into where

571
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: I thought a buck was betted. Got you. So when

572
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: you go out to North Dakota, I know you use

573
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: a variety of tactics just depending on you know, what

574
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: cameras are lining up or you know, I'll let you

575
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: tell me that. But did it seem like you were

576
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: doing the traditional early season uh, you know, bid to

577
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: feed top thing or where you getting creative or doing

578
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: something different there. Yeah, pretty much pretty much the traditional

579
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: early season bed to feed patterns. And so what's the

580
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: major food source up in that northern part of the country.

581
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: Like where I'm hunting, it's a lot of bean fields primarily.

582
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: And then in this neck of the woods of North Dakota,

583
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of areas where a ton of acorns

584
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: are dropping, and that can definitely tell bucks are shifting

585
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: off the crops a little bit into those acorns. You So,

586
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: from the picture I saw that this buck was in velvet,

587
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: how many are giving me a ratio? I guess of

588
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: what you would say you saw bucks that were in

589
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: velvet versus ship that first week of September, I still

590
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: say like nine of the bucks are in velvet. It's

591
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: act their most We've only got out of all the

592
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: bucks we've seen a pictures of I think pictures of

593
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: a couple that are have a hardcorn. Now that's cool.

594
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: So it's still definitely a good spot to go for

595
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: opportunity at a velvet buck. That's nice. I know that

596
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: other parts of the country, like down in your Texas,

597
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: I think over half of our deer shed, so it's

598
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: kind of cool to see the discrepancy across the country.

599
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: Is it pretty wet up there? Where would you say

600
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: it's a drier year? Um, I would say it's probably

601
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: on the like right in the middle. Yeah, it's not

602
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,239
Speaker 1: you know, it's not overly uh wetter, overly dry. So

603
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, cool. So some of the other guys

604
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: I've talked to that have uh taking bucks this early season, Uh,

605
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: they've all shot there dur in the morning. But you're

606
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: the standout I believe of an evening hunt. Um. Is

607
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: there a specific taketic or thing that you were seeing

608
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: there that allows you to take a deer on an

609
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: evening or was that just when you felt like the

610
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: stars aligned for you? Yeah, I mean I feel like

611
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: I'll here. Primarily it's weight, it's it can be pretty

612
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: difficult for the spots that I hunt to get in

613
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: to a morning spot without booker and stuff up. So

614
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: we're hunting, you know, pretty tight to betting in the

615
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: evening and even so, I mean we get into it more.

616
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: But like this buck came out at you know, like

617
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: the last couple of minutes of shooting light. Yeah. Wow, okay,

618
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit about that, hunt man.

619
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: How did that go? Down. Yeah, he is coming kind

620
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: of on the edge of a wood lot and wheat field.

621
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: And um, it was a slow night, only had seen

622
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: a couple doing a fan and then with about five

623
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: minutes to go kind of just blew open and had

624
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of small bucks and doors around me. And

625
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: and this guy came right along the edge of the

626
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: wood lot and wheat field and worked his way by

627
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: it twenty yards with about a minute last a shooting light.

628
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's uh, that's cool. It's not when they're

629
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: close like that, because man, when starts getting dark, those

630
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: shots are hard to make. Yeah, that's yeah, it was. Yeah,

631
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: exactly is this the deer that you have some history with? Um, no,

632
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: he's We have really no clue what book it was. So,

633
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, this time of year, you know a lot

634
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: of those deer even though he lets his velvet yet,

635
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: but you know kind of you know, shed and velvet

636
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: slash kind of starting to shift, you know, potentially where

637
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: they're kind of gonna be spending their fall time. And um,

638
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: did not know this buck. Yeah cool, So I don't know,

639
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: I've only seen that one side profile picture. What is he? Man,

640
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: He's just you know, a solid uh, seven pointer. Actually probably,

641
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a three and a half

642
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: year older uh, two and a half year old buck.

643
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: He's nothing crazy, but he's a he's a good looking deer.

644
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: And he came in and you know, we had one

645
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: night left hunting, and he was got me fired up.

646
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, Hey, dude, it's all

647
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: about getting excited. You know, that's what If the deer

648
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: makes you excited, it's fun to shoot him, dude. That's

649
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: that's why we do this thing exactly. Yeah. Cool. So

650
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: going forward, if guys were thinking about going and exploring

651
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: some of this country, um, as kind of the temperatures

652
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: start to cool a little bit, what do you expect

653
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: the buck movement to be for the next week or

654
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: so up there in North Dakota. You know, I'd expect

655
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: it to be. Um. You know, it looks like with

656
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: temperatures it's be pretty high for the next few days

657
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: and then dip back down over the weekend. So I

658
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: definitely say there'd be room for uh for some good

659
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: buck moving here over the next week. If you had

660
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: to rank it between one and team, what are you

661
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna call it? Let's call it. Let's go with the

662
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: five five. I think we're gonna go right in the middle,

663
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: right in the middle. Yeah, So definitely reason to get

664
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: out there. Still just expect to have to work for

665
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: him a little bit, and that's okay, right right. I'd say,

666
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, getting tight ish to betting and you know, um,

667
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: I I don't think you know it's gonna go crazy,

668
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: but I definitely think there's potential. Yeah. Cool, dude. Well,

669
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: congrats on the great buck. Dude. I know you work

670
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: hard out there and it's cool to see that rewarded.

671
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: And I hope you have a great rest of the season. Man,

672
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: appreciate it, dude. We are on the phone with Mark

673
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: Haslem of Southeast Whitetail dot Com. Mark, you went or

674
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: are in South Carolina and shot a great great velvet

675
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: buck that I am doing the best to not be

676
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: envious of. Of course, Man, it looked like you had

677
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: a great hunt last week. I did. I appreciate it. Um. Yeah,

678
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. Yeah, I um had a

679
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: great hunt. Uh went the farm with some other other

680
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: guests hunt Tuesday through Saturday. In my hunt in the

681
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: Thursday morning, so I couldn't I couldn't be. I'm still

682
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: riding high. I would imagine, Man, that's super cool. So, um,

683
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm assuming this is a hunt that you do on

684
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: a yearly basis where you're able to go and hunt,

685
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a velvet type hunt there in

686
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Do you usually expect to see pretty good

687
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,959
Speaker 1: buck movement that early in the season. Um, most years, yes,

688
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: but there's some years where it's just kind of based

689
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: on our food plots and based on and based on

690
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: what what a farmer plants. I felt confident based on

691
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: trail cameras and knowing where they're feeding at night and

692
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: which is historical data, historical observations, knowing where they bed,

693
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: I thought pretty confident that we could maybe get maybe

694
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: filled two or three tags last week. Yeah, and so

695
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: did you go into that hunt's hunting that buck specifically

696
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: or more just uh, just historical patterns of where bucks

697
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: tend to be? So um, we I they were there.

698
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: There were two large bocks that they were they were

699
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: running together. They were in a bachelor group. But but

700
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: but but these two big boxs are kind of sticking

701
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: together almost like a tag team. And Josh Hilliard came

702
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: down from first light. I'm sorry, man, I'm just kidding.

703
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: He's a good friend. Yeah, he's a class guys. That's

704
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: like he's one of those you know, like you follow

705
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: people on social media and you and you it's like

706
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: you know them and then you're finally me. But no,

707
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: Josh is super cool guy, humble, down to earth, great

708
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: guy to have at the year camp. Um. And he

709
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: had a guy, Hunter Rudd from Capture Creative, super nice guy,

710
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: just a lot of fun. But I showed them that

711
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: first afternoon when they got in there, um, some of

712
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: those peanut fields and where I thought these two bucks

713
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: were betting. And they did get within seven five yards

714
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: um of both of those bucks about an hour after

715
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: first light, gone by the bedding. But they but he

716
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: had a bow and there a bow hunting at that point,

717
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: and um it just you know, I said, if I

718
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: shot said up yards shows obviously too far. Um. But

719
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: that was and then they were chasing those bucks for

720
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: most of the week and then the buck I um

721
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: I shot Thursday morning. That was simply based off historical data,

722
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: historical hunting. I I shot two velvet bucks back to

723
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: back in the same hunt within two hundred yards in

724
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: my tree back in nineteen, same same same time set

725
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: up morning hunt catching them going back to this betting

726
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: thicket and UH shot a butt last year on the

727
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: other side of the property. Employment is pretty much doing

728
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: that having that same strategy. Did you go in boots

729
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: on the ground style and find a betting area to

730
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: set up on there, or are you just assuming from

731
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: map scouting or what have you that deer would be

732
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: moving from food sources to where you're at. Pretty much

733
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: just assumption, but based on one based on real data.

734
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna come out of the coolest part of every

735
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: single day. I mean every single day. The coolest part

736
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: of the day is gonna be overnight the summer. I

737
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: thought August, they're gonna come out. It might be an

738
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: hour of four daybreak and might be at two am,

739
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: but they're gonna feed all night because you gotta remember

740
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: these these years. To stay healthy, they on average, per

741
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: you know the National Year Association, they've got to eat

742
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: six to eight percent of their body weight every single day.

743
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: That is a ton of pounds of a single day.

744
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: So they're probably they're probably gonna gonna consume most of

745
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: at night. UH works relatively safe, and then they're going

746
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 1: to make their way back. These bucks will within about

747
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: an hour first light. And that's exactly what this buck did. Um.

748
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: You know, came right by my tree about forty five

749
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: minutes after first light. Man, that's great. It's a great

750
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: buck too. Man. Tell us a little bit more about that, Dear.

751
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't really have much history really at all. I

752
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: am about nine percent sure that he's the last year

753
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: I saw of my last hunt. In December of last year,

754
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: I saw a buck kind of the same area and

755
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: he just appeared a gray light on my trail, look

756
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: in my direction, and I tried to get on them,

757
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: but I really couldn't tell exactly what he was. I mean,

758
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: I knew he was probably shooter, but I couldn't tell

759
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: what I was looking at. And it just didn't make sense.

760
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: And Thursday morning, I was raining and I picked the

761
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: I picked the pine tree to climb rifle hunting my

762
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: him or faces the tree, so I've got some good

763
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: levers kind of brace up against the tree. And I

764
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: was about fifty yards from a nasty bedding thicket. Um,

765
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: and I was kind of in line to where I

766
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: should have some deer filtering out of those few plots

767
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 1: and added fields going back that bedding site and that

768
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: area that pine block has a lot of oaks that

769
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: were left um from the last time it was clear cut.

770
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: So that was good because I picked the tree where

771
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: I had an oat right behind me and the branches

772
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: were like right up right up against my back. I mean,

773
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: I had an awesome backdrop. I did not have a

774
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: silhouette at all, but those other oaks created blind spots

775
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: for me. So what happened is this buck. I had

776
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: had to go groups that pass by early on in

777
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: this buck just appeared. He he just stepped out from

778
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: behind his oak, you know, going out of trail about

779
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: thirty five yards and it's well at the first light,

780
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: but it's still raining and it's still very overcast. I

781
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: couldn't make out even that close exactly what he was,

782
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: and thankfully he put his head down and kind of

783
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: shifted over under some branches of that oak, and that's

784
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: when I raised my gun. And I've learned from mistakes

785
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: in the past. There's there's one bug I can think

786
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: of in the twenty sixteen season where he stepped down

787
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: on trail and I raised my binoculars first looked at him.

788
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: That's the buck I want to take. Raise my rifle

789
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: and he's gone so when you see a bug, you know,

790
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: in the woods like this, you gotta raise your rifle,

791
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, glass him with your rifle and said it said,

792
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: especially if he's in shooting range, go ahead and get

793
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: get your gun up. So thankfully there was a blind

794
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: spot where being that close, um, I could raise my

795
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: gun because his his trail was angling towards me. He

796
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: had two bucks behind him that were much smaller I

797
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: think they were, you know, like like a little six

798
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: points maybe a four point um they were behind them

799
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: so they didn't see me raise my gun up. And

800
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: he probably put the shot around twenty five yards and

801
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: he was quartering to me, which you know, um, um,

802
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: I've taken that shot before close range. I prictness, my prightness,

803
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: rifle shooting a lot, and I know what my gun does.

804
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: And I put that bullet on a fifty grain seven

805
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: man right between his between his shoulder and his chest,

806
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: went in there, blew his shoulder up, took out the

807
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: vitals and it and the bullet got hung up in

808
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: him didn't exit, so he so he took the entire force,

809
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: did a jay hook and just crashed. And uh, it's

810
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: just it's one of those haunts. Where like it's happened

811
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: so quickly. You know, I wasn't seeing other bucks trickle

812
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: through to getting excited. All of a sudden, there he was. Man,

813
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: there's nothing like the satisfaction of having a rifle drop

814
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: one close. You know, it's just pretty exciting when you

815
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: just boom and it's over. That's very cool, man, very

816
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: exciting and gets me super excited for the rest of

817
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: the season coming up. I looked at the weather forecast

818
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: for uh, you know, the extended ten day right now

819
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: and as seasons start to open up. Uh, there's a

820
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: lot of rain in the forecast and some cooler temperatures.

821
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: Do you expect the mornings to still be the time

822
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: to be employing that tactic of hunting near the bedding areas? Um?

823
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: Or would you see more of a food source type

824
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: thing be the thing to look for in the coming week? UM?

825
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: I would say both, Um, based onm what I'm about

826
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: to say. If you get some good food plots um

827
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: or active or some good food sources that have not

828
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: been touched and there's not much pressure on them, hunt

829
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: them and just see what you see. But we noticed

830
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: this last week, this early part of the season. I

831
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: mean there are hunters that that are gonna be blowing

832
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: the woods up over the next five days just hunting,

833
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: doing work in these gear have not been around humans

834
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: for the most part, um, especially around hunting hours, you know,

835
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: daybreak and and uh and last light and you know, six, eight,

836
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: ten months, So we should I mean, these these bucks

837
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: in the South are so skittish they get bumped off

838
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: their schedule very quickly. Say if you have some good

839
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: food sources, hunt them in the evening. Maybe don't get

840
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: too aggressive and going too close, um hunt them. But

841
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 1: then also hunt those mornings, figure out where they bed,

842
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: um and see if you can't try to get flush

843
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: up in the bed. And I see what you see.

844
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: People people talk talk down about hunting, hunting mornings until

845
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,479
Speaker 1: the first cold front and the rut, and I really

846
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: just don't understand other than you know, I equate it

847
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: to when people like to hunt certain moon phases, are

848
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: certain kind of weather temperatures. If they're not hunting the

849
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Speaker 1: other south the spectrum, they don't know what they don't

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Speaker 1: you know, they don't know what they're missing because they're

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Speaker 1: not out. So yeah, I agree, I think, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: also very much a um more Midwestern type thing to

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Speaker 1: not hunt mornings. But whenever you're from the south like

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Speaker 1: we are, you understand that it's uh until eight pm,

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Speaker 1: you know, nine eight degrees and the coolest part of

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Speaker 1: the day is the first thirty minutes of the morning,

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Speaker 1: and that's when the deer are gonna be on their feet.

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Speaker 1: So looking forward to this next week here, I know

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Speaker 1: that it traditionally would like to put a number on it,

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Speaker 1: so somewhere between zero and the deer jumping the blind

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Speaker 1: with you, what do you expect the buck movement to

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Speaker 1: be in the coming week. I would say it's gonna

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Speaker 1: stay consistent from what we've seen the past two weeks.

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Speaker 1: And I would say probably uh six or seven, you know, good,

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Speaker 1: good movement as long as you're understanding of pressure. Because

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Speaker 1: and when I say that is because these deer are

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Speaker 1: still in their summer schedules. They are right now. They

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Speaker 1: are eating in their hiding. They are they are consuming

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Speaker 1: that six aberish in their body way in their hiding.

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Speaker 1: It's all they're really doing for the most part. And

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Speaker 1: of course I know they're simian animals and they do

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Speaker 1: different things. But a point being is that velvet most

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Speaker 1: most the velot right now in these bucks are going

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Speaker 1: to be off bigger box typically show the velvet first,

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Speaker 1: but that testosterone is gonna start to spike. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: start to make more signs, rubs, scrapes, bashilor groups are

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Speaker 1: gonna break up. They're gonna start sparring. And that's when

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Speaker 1: you see that big September shift to where they separate

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Speaker 1: and they're really kind of going in the next next phase.

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Speaker 1: What's the pre roud So right now they're in that

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Speaker 1: summer mode. They're eating and they're hiding, and so I

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Speaker 1: mind go to you move exactly. What explains you earlier

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Speaker 1: is figure out where they're feeding. But I don't really

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Speaker 1: hundle of food swords. I hunt them coming back, um,

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Speaker 1: coming back at first light, because they are if you

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Speaker 1: can get on them, they are. They are much more relaxed.

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Speaker 1: They've been out all night, they've been feeding, haven't been

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Speaker 1: harassed for the most part, and they're just making their

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Speaker 1: way back to bedding. Yeah, man, man, sounds like a

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Speaker 1: good plan to me. I'm excited to get the season started.

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Speaker 1: Pretty awesome to see you get the season started so well. Mark.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on and sharing your information. Absolutely appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on it's been a blast. Be

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Speaker 1: congrats to all these guys on their opener bucks. I

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Speaker 1: know it can be a grind out there in the

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Speaker 1: hot month of September chasing these deer down, and I

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Speaker 1: know that those guys put in some work and rewarded

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Speaker 1: in a huge way. If you haven't go, be sure

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Speaker 1: and subscribe to the Element YouTube channel. You're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to see hunters hunt for the Tennessee Velvet buck on there.

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Speaker 1: Also on the wire to Hunt blog, there's a cool

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Speaker 1: article for how to take care of meat in the

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Speaker 1: hot weather, which you're gonna need to know if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna go chase some deer in September. Also the Foundations

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Speaker 1: podcast on the wire to Hunt feed that Tony did

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Speaker 1: recently about giving yourself some options when you're headed out

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Speaker 1: to make sure that you have plenty of options in

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Speaker 1: places to ambush. From that way, you don't pigeonhole yourself.

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