WEBVTT - #101 - Grip 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.640 Boulet Cap Podcasts, special guests, My guy, good to see you, man, 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:10.719 Good to see you mane Shady Records, Newest Grip, what's 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.080 happening everybody. Atlanta's finance is in the building. Man, welcome, man, welcome. 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:16.040 He First of all, I just want to say congratulations, 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.160 thank you, thank you. Yeah, because I remember when my boy, 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:21.759 Erica Rock put me onto your shit. Uh he put 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.800 me on the Stunnosed project. I was like, I gotta fuck, 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:26.880 I gotta find this guy. We gotta get him on 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.600 the show. People want to people that restyle. Yeah, man, 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:31.640 like it was so it's so dope. And then just 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.400 to see you kind of like just drop consistently throughout 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.479 the pandemic, just dropping records and just staying like staying 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:40.920 on your ship man, and like obviously it paid off. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.800 Like kind of take me to what led to him 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:48.839 coming to the table, Like what what what caught his attention? Yeah, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.640 I'll give you the months, like the months leading up 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.200 to this ship. So like with draw sna nose in 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:58.840 like October twenty nineteen teen, right, right, sh It's god damn. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.200 You know it was getting critical acclaim and you know, 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:06.960 went on tour with Jed uh, Europe came back like December, 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.560 like Christmas, right January. We setting up for this Brent tour. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.160 We're fin the tour the States with Brent right then 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.720 COVID and then everything shut down and we're kind of 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:19.679 just like that could have been a big tour too, 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.920 a big tour. I was supposed to make some good money, right, 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.160 so like it's like, damn, all right, well what we're 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:29.760 gonna do? So automatically just start I just lock in 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.120 and I make Halo, you know what I'm saying. Make Halo. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.920 And I think like a week and I'm like, all shure, 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:36.600 we're at least on band camp. But thease that way, 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.560 you know, people can't go just tune in and throw 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:44.840 some money out of it. So make Halo? Did that 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.400 ship turn around? Made Probacitia were kind of just wait, 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.000 nobody knows at this point, nobody knows, like what's going 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.360 on in the where's the world going open back up? 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:58.200 Like everything's shutting down, everything's getting canceled. I made that one. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:04.120 I think shortly after I made that one, I think 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:09.640 Paul might have reached out, you know, you know, just 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:11.880 show interest, you know what I'm saying. So at first 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.679 it was just talking with Paul, and then it turned 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:19.000 into well heard it. You know what I'm saying, He's interested. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.560 So from there, you know, we kind of just like, 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:23.679 all right, well, let's figure something out. You know what 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.200 I'm saying. So this is in the pandemic, this is 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.240 like this is twenty nineteen, right, you know what I'm 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:32.320 saying twenty twenty. Yeah, that's just how I fucked up. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.839 So this is tall blur buddy, It's all fucking blur 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.880 man blur. Right, So like this is twenty twenty. I 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:41.040 just go back to and at the start January I started, 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.720 I started recording I Died for This January, so you 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.880 already started working on the album. So then after but 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.480 then I took a pause. I recorded those other projects 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.440 and put them out just to have some shit out. 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.200 So then once we talked to you know and Paul, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:57.720 it was kind of like, all right, bet, like so 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.959 now I gotta I'm inspire it again, so let me 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.440 finish this ship. So that way, if I fly out 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:04.960 there and ship and play some ship for him, I 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.160 got a body of work ready to go. Yeah, so 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:12.600 started working continue working on our Die for This. By 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.520 the time we got up there. Uh. It was just 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.640 like all I had to do was ask him, like, Yo, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:20.200 this is the song I want you on. And you know, 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.200 I'm saying, think about Royce on this ship, you know 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.680 what I'm saying. But I think that m said he 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.120 heard he heard a Snubnose and two to two six 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:31.400 caught him kind of rapping fast and switching cadences and 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.760 ship Big Ruby at the beginning. He's like, yeah, he's 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.960 like that ship. So with Snubnose it caught. I feel 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.600 like Snubnose was so like slept On, especially like on 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.280 the DSPs, Like I feel like once you started dropping 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.480 music in the pandemic, like I was like, oh, ship, 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.320 I see I see Grip making these fucking big playlists. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.520 This is dope, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.440 the people was going back to snub you know what 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.440 I'm saying. So it was cool. I think every like 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.720 every drop I've ever had, it just kind of got 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.480 bigger at the time, you know what I'm saying, Like naturally, 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.320 just it's got to be dope. Though, Like to have 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.200 like a concept project like Snubnose be the thing that 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.320 catches Eminem's attention. Hell yeah, man, I feel like because 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:12.960 for a long time, man, I was, I was kind 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.400 of upset with it because like I felt like it 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.600 was it was a great body of work that kind 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:21.159 of just like fell under the radar. No, it definitely did. Yeah, 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.279 So then I was just like, you know, for a 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:24.839 long time, I was kind of just like I was 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.000 frustrated for people who don't understand. Like, you had a 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.240 project in twenty nineteen you put out called Snubnose. This 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:30.919 is a project that kind of got me onto you 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.599 real tough, but what like it was a whole entire 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.200 concept to the album break break down what that was. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:41.200 So Snubnose, of course is a is a revolver. So 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:45.320 so pretty much, I just like compare like the mechanism, 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.760 like the secular mechanism to like the hood, like just 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.280 like our environment, so like and kind of like spoke 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.719 from the perspective of a gun, spoke on different cycles, uh, 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.240 and brought it back for a circle at the end. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.200 So pretty much, you know, in a nutshell, like that's 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:04.080 what it was. It was like the most creative ill 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.680 way to do what like Nas and Tupac did, but 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.200 like over an entire body of word, the entire body 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.159 of work, and I just remember, like as a kid, 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.719 like hearing like I gave you power, I gave you 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.520 powers the best damn. I think it was one of 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.600 those songs. I was like, the fuck yeah, powers, like 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.400 one of those songs. You're like, nas Is goat man, 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.440 what the fuck are we're doing here? I remember, like 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.880 I remember, like so uh. I think that it was 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.440 just dope that that at least am caught that ship. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.880 You know what I'm saying, Like, at least this kind 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.840 of catapulted me to this next level. You know what 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.200 I'm saying. I mean that means that the project service purpose. 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.760 Saying purpose and think about Ematic right, emadic at. I 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.520 mean it was was it was an underground favorite. I 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.600 mean obviously came out on Columbia, but like really, once 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.400 Notves really started a pop, I think a lot of 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.039 people had to go back to that show, back to 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.760 that ship. Barely just went double platinum like six months ago. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.040 You know what I'm saying, We think it Illmatic is 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.560 just like the holy grail, the holy grail of hip hop, 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.960 and it's like, bro, it's barely double platinum, you know 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.280 what I'm saying, Like I guess it reasonable doubt the 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.760 same thing right without reasonable out How many people like 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:09.479 no idea about reasonable doubt until Jay started really really 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.120 getting these commercial records. And so I think that's kind 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:16.080 of like your moment. So the album, like, obviously, when 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:17.960 you have a body work that's done, you presented the 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.919 shady records, right, you picked the song you want eminem 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.039 on or does he pick it? Well? I did that, 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.039 I did. I don't know how to go usually, but 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.840 like I was like, because when I played it, well, 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:30.920 I played it before I told him, so then when 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.000 I played it, he was like, damn, this hook, this 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.839 hook is dope as fuck. I was like, well, Greg, 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.800 the one that's the one I wanted. That's the one 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.120 I wanted you on. Yeah. Man, So like nah, I 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.400 kind of we are we kind of catered you know 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.760 what I'm saying. We kind of catered that ship like 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.920 to like, all right, man, let's if we was gonna 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.600 get him on a song, what would you know what 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.480 I'm saying, what I wanted to be what I don't 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.279 want this shit to sound like. So like that's kind 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.320 of like why I kind of feel like it was 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.080 easy for him to just like walk straight into it, 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.920 and it's got to be hard to cause, like especially 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.520 brought up Royce and you know I always say Royce, 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.839 and I mean Royce is a fucking Jedi. He's a Maniam, 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.159 one of the greatest of all time. But you would 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:12.960 think you wouldn't. Like, you get your m verse back, 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.400 you get your voice verse back. You already got your 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:19.400 ship done, right, so you gotta like it's almost like 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.400 you gotta had already recorded that hoping that they was 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.040 gonna get on it, and you went super stupid hard 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.000 or did you like recut any of your ship? I 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.360 don't recut, man, I don't recut man. I respect, you know, 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:35.120 I respect you know. Sometimes you'll send the record out 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.680 with the hook and then the open verse, see what, 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.560 see what's okay? This was? I know what I need 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.280 to do. It's a cold for me. So like if 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.440 I most of the time, if an artist is bigger 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.160 than you, they're gonna want they gonna want to hear 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:48.640 your ship on that first right because they don't want 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.920 to look crazy cannibish it happened. And yeah, so you know, 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.040 out of respect and just like you know, like I said, 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.000 it's a cold man like all right, cool. I'm gonna 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:58.240 send it with my shit on that I'm gonna try 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.000 to go as hard as possible, but some motherfucker's gonna 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:02.880 flip some shit to go crazy, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:04.560 and it's just like, hey, it is what it is, 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.760 so like with them, like with Royce. With Royce, I 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.000 had already had the song constructed, like the first half 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.640 in the second half, so he just took the whole 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:16.679 middle you know what I'm saying, the whole middle portion 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.400 and killed the shit like, which is what I was 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.280 expecting him to do anyways. But then with like m 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.760 shit I spent at sixteen, I was just trying to 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:30.440 write some the most motherfucking internal just that lyrical school, 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:32.079 you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm going in you 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:33.640 know what I'm saying about the same time, trying to 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.480 like do my own thing. So when I said it 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.520 to him, you know, and he sent back, and I 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.559 was like, I was already knowing that he was coming 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.880 with at least thirty six bars, you know what I'm saying, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.160 Like I already knew. I was like, all r I 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.720 bet like he went in, he just went the funk 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.160 off and it was like, ya, I don't change shit, 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:51.600 you know what I'm saying. I never I don't change 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.840 nothing like any time. It's crazy too because like I 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.920 just feel like am You know what I appreciate about 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:05.600 what Eminem does on Shady is it's not about cloud politics. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:09.400 It's like who's dope? Yeah, like who like look at it, 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:14.200 Boogie is dope. The Griselda guys fire. Like people forget 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:18.600 when Eminem brought Griselda to Shady, Like Griselda was buzzing 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.840 and like amongst the hip hop has like boomback kids, 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.560 but it was nothing like it is now. Like he's 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.640 super early on you. You know what I'm saying. And 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.480 I think it's dope because like a lot of times 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.920 we'll see a lot of these executives are artists turns executives, 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.520 and it's really about like it's really not it's not 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.719 as much about the talent and the capabilities as a 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.959 rapper as it is about like the dollar signs. You 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.040 know what I'm saying. Yeah, Man, I think that's one 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.240 of the things when talking to him. Of course, I 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:49.840 know it's a business, you know what I'm saying. Of course, 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.480 Like when I talk to him and shit, it's like 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.200 you still felt like he was he's an artist and 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.280 like he kind of just like you know what I'm saying. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.800 It's like it's like it's like a coach who used 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.720 to play basketball. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.800 it's a difference. It's a difference a coach who played 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.600 in the NBA. Yet different respect them with the players. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.280 That's why you always hear like, yeah, man, this guy 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.480 feel me. Ex player always gets the locker room easier, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.800 you feel me, Like, so like I felt that. I 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:21.200 mean I felt that like before we even any paperwork anything, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:22.679 you know what I mean. And he was just like, yo, 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.640 like I don't want to change nothing like I you 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.440 know what I mean, Like pretty much, that's just great. 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.880 You created control. So I was just like, so you 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.080 have created control in your situation. Oh that's fire, that's big, 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:38.680 that's huge. That's a very also very uncommon. Yeah for real. 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.920 So obviously Eminem is one of the greatest rappers of 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.760 all time. I mean obviously respect him as an MC. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.160 As far as like coming up, like, were you listening 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.200 to a lot of like you know, I'm not saying 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.240 you were listening to a revival by the way whatever, 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.120 if you were love But were you like like, were 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:57.880 you like tapped in as like a pretty big Eminem 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:02.000 fan coming up? Yeah, yeah I was. I could probably 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:06.760 spit Verba, Slim Shady LP all the way to the 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.680 Eminem show. Those are my three yeah yeah, and then 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.920 eight Mile soundtrack. Yeah, eight Miles soundtrack. I wish you 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.679 would have made a whole album when he Bro if 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.520 Eminem would have did a whole album when he was 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.800 in eight mile fucking mode. Them three records on eight 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.160 mile fucking crazy, Yeah, Bro going hard. There's some ship 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.840 on the encore too, remember the Yeah, the mid types 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.439 and DJ types and show he had a verse. There 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.040 was a song called We All Die One Day on 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:35.880 Obie Trice's album. It was Obie Lloyd Banks fifty and Eminem. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.679 It's my favorite Eminem verse ever. I feel like no 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.120 one talks about that version, but that era of like 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:45.199 early g unit Hell yeah, Man, eight mile and when 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.120 m was jumping on all the who Kid tapes, the 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.640 Green Lantern Ship talking about job Rule talking. I mean 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.560 it was just like, you know, it's one of the 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.640 best eras ever man. Bro. So yeah, no, I was, 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.360 I was, Yeah, I was big on them, like before, 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.160 what's your favorite album from him? Like favorite, I'm not 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:05.800 saying best because I think they're different. Ship probably the 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.840 maybe the show that's my favorite. I think, like probably 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.880 the best. You could probably say Martial Matters, but to 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.080 me and a show is the one, Yeah, because I 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.840 think like Marshall Mathers LP, like I wanted And I 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.400 remember the first time I lived Bro. I vividly remember 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.000 like my big sister had just maybe she had just 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.920 got our license or some ship and we're just driving 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.960 up the street to mom, can we go to the 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.280 to the gas station or whatever, and flying off with 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:34.760 c the end. You know what I'm saying, Like literally 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.719 just wanted some wild ship. I'm gonna kill you, see 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.680 what I'm saying. Like, So it was hard, Bro, like 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.880 Mom turned that ship off, You're gonna take my cut? 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.480 And I could I could hear like how his style 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.520 had changed and ship like him adjusting to you know, 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.160 to the industry and ship. So it was dope, man, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.600 But I probably say the eminem Show shows my ship. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.440 So what's been dope about just watching Atlanta over the 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.720 last like five or six years. It's just like Atlanta, 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:03.079 I obviously well for the last twenty to twenty. It's 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.320 been twenty strong years where Atlanta's ran rap music, right, 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.640 but like just in terms of like you know, obviously 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.600 there's the Migos, twenty one, Savage Chains, like all these 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:17.480 guys who've been like superstars shaping the culture. But to 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:21.840 see guys like Ji d, to see Black, to see 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:26.000 yourself like all like like Atlanta always to me was 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:30.120 like you know, growing up, Outcast was my favorite shit, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:34.400 like Equiminized, my second favorite album, Ember, and like it's 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:38.880 just dope that like there's still that like like lineage 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.240 of like you know that that energy still coming out 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.960 of that A And what's dope about it too is 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.120 now it's like you know, I'm sure when you were 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.760 growing up and I when we were probably coming up 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.319 around the same era, it felt like hip hop was 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.840 a lot more segregated. Yeah, it'd be like this is 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.360 the real rap shit, this the commercial shit, this the 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.720 boom bab shit. But now I feel like everyone just 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.360 fucks with each other. Like it's like, you know, you 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.480 remember how crazy it was when telip Quality did a 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:11.360 song with jay Z. Yeah, or it wasn't even that 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.079 it was it was it wasn't even that. It was 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.240 it wasn't even that. Actually, I take that back. It 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.720 was just the fact that Jay shouted out tlip quality 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:19.280 on a song. They didn't even do a record together. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.080 It was what he said lyrically, I'd be telling quality 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:27.359 everything like oh my god, he shout like common sense, right, 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:31.440 like common sense. But it's crazy to think like we 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.160 came from an era when like the rocket ship, the 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.240 common ship, the black Star ship was like another world 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.760 from Nas and jay Z because they were commercially successful artists. 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.640 But I feel like nowadays, like everything blends in together. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.120 Yeah somewhat for the most part. Yeah, like you would 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.960 see like you know, Griselda doing records with two chains, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.400 you know what I'm saying. And I think that come 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.960 out of like just like that, see like for instance 0:14:56.040 --> 0:15:02.000 like outcasts and and uh and motherfucking who who would 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.720 jump on that a frequent a frequent collaborator too, like 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.880 like they had some wu tang on that ship, Yeah 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.280 what I'm saying. So, like you know, like I think 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.240 it's like so like it was to the bar b 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.240 respect thing like like oh no, I see y'all doing 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.560 y'all things with it, like and if time allows like 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.120 ship let's let's think about like even like big Boy, right, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.000 he just he put out He's I mean I just 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.640 think like as a kid, like to think that like 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.960 a trapped out rapper like Jez would do a song 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.120 with outcasts. It just wouldn't make sense to me as 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.560 a fan. But but now yeah, but it's like I'm 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.600 just glad that, like because I used to be one 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.200 of them little hip hop snopper. I mean that ain't 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.400 real rap ship man? The fuck is this ship man? 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.640 But it's like all this ship is fun, It's all 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.200 it's it's how do you feel about like kind of 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.960 the current state of Atlanta and just like where it 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.720 is as far as like artists integrity, Like I feel 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.800 like Atlanta still runs this whole ship bro, Like yeah, 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.720 I think that, Uh. I think it's in a place. Man, 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.960 I think that has a decent balance, you know what 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.240 I'm saying. I feel like, uh, the trap the trap ship, 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.640 or at least the trap sound, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.360 Because it started off as trap because he was talking 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:15.200 about trap, right, ship Now it's just a sound now, right, 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:22.160 So like uh, I feel like, hm, even if it's 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.560 if it may not have been. It's like as hard 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.480 as it was like ten years ago, but it's still 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:31.080 like the hardest ship is. It dominates the airwaves, you 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.360 know what I'm saying, Like it's it's more friendly on 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:34.920 the ear now, you know what I'm saying, Like kids 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:39.320 can fuck with it, and and everybody twenty one Savage rappers, 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:43.720 ass Offgos feel literally probably the most influential rappers in 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.040 the last decades. So I saw I fucked with it, bro, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.760 and then and then on the just like the lyrical 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:52.160 side of things, you know, just like I feel like 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.680 we all gotta like we kind of fuck with the 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:56.560 like for the most part, everybody fucked with each other, 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.000 right right, you know what I'm saying in Atlanta, you 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:00.800 know what I'm saying from on the lyrical shit. So 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.760 like like I said, like like jid, like that's the 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.400 homie and shit. So like you know, we talk out there. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.399 You know. Kenny Mason, Kenny Mason was just here. He freestyle. 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:13.280 He's a fucking beast. He's almy and shit, man, So like, 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:15.560 you know, I think it's in a good spot. Bro, 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.480 Hey what up? Man? 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