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Speaker 1: Hey, well, Mama's it's me David Bori from earlier. I'm

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Speaker 1: here to tell you that I have a comedy special

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Speaker 1: that I produced by myself that is out via Mypatreon,

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Speaker 1: Patreon dot com backslash David Bori. Go on there, sign

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Speaker 1: up for the Patreon for free, buy the special for

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Speaker 1: twelve dollars. It's quite frankly the best special of the year,

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Speaker 1: next to Limeston's and I stand on that.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, that's a great stance to have, and thank you

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Speaker 2: for mentioning. I too have a special August twentieth, it'll

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Speaker 2: be available on Netflix. It's called Bad Poetry, and it's

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Speaker 2: the best I could do. It's I don't know where

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Speaker 2: it ranks in the scale of other specials, but it

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Speaker 2: certainly is the best I could come up with and

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Speaker 2: commit to. So I'd appreciate your viewership and watch David

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Speaker 2: watch mine, and write us immediately afterwards and tell us

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Speaker 2: how funny we are. And if you didn't feel that way,

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Speaker 2: maybe shut the fuck up about it.

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Speaker 3: Motherfucking mini episode, mini episode, motherfucking mini episode.

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Speaker 4: Matt Right, Joe Roki L sty Kerrman, three of the

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Speaker 4: greatest comedic minds of all time, Welcome little Mamas and

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Speaker 4: gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told.

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Speaker 2: Me The Podcast, or we dive deep, deep into the

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Speaker 2: fuckings of black conspiracy theories and.

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Speaker 1: We finally work to prove the conspiracies of you. To listeners,

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Speaker 1: It's a motherfucking mini episode.

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Speaker 2: What a foul, foul man you are? What a sick

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Speaker 2: fuck you are?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Danny is good probo baby Joe.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a wild August on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch one out of the three.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I'm listen, I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna watch

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Speaker 2: all three, but I'm only gonna feel good during some

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Speaker 2: of it. And I won't tell you what some that is.

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Speaker 2: Remember myself, so it may be me, it may not

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Speaker 2: be me that I enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, all in just to watch like some special

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Speaker 1: August twentieth, it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 2: And watch watch David's special August first, Right.

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Speaker 1: August first paid bitch. I know when you get paid up?

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Speaker 2: Well, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: It's a McDonald's run. That's crazy alone. If you got

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Speaker 1: a girl, you might I don't know what you're you're

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Speaker 1: sucking up. If you got a girl you gotta. They

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Speaker 1: always want to make flurries and all kinds of complicated ship.

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Speaker 2: Right. That's what makes it crazy, is like you're eating

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Speaker 2: four like my girl, order weird proportions of small food

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Speaker 2: and then get an extravagant additional thing that costs me

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Speaker 1: Brother, we we're going to she wants to go to

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Speaker 1: Wendy's for strawberry lemonade. And then it's like it's already fuck,

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Speaker 1: it's already backwards.

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Speaker 2: That's not why you go to Wendy's.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm hungry. Go to Wendy's for a spicy chicken sandwich

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Speaker 2: or a square burger.

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Speaker 1: That's about all they got in my brain. That's all

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Speaker 1: they have. We listen. We can talk about Wendy's all day,

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Speaker 2: Talk about Wendy's and the women all day. But we

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Speaker 2: can't because we got an email from a person, a

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Speaker 2: person who let's make sure that they don't want no

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Speaker 2: name is how they've identified themselves so perfect. We'll respect that.

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Speaker 2: But they sent us a a email that said the

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Speaker 2: gifted and talented classes were where they sent neuro divergent students.

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Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, we I think we have two sides of this.

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Speaker 1: You being a teacher, sure me never having been in

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Speaker 1: a gifted and ortalented.

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Speaker 2: Class never once. You never had like one class that

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Speaker 1: It's embarrassing because here's the issue. Io would test the

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Speaker 1: basic skills, amazing actual classroom application of said skills. I

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Speaker 1: got you, poor, poor marks. I was failing classes from

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Speaker 1: when you could fail classes.

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Speaker 2: WHOA. What you needed was like a cool teacher to

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Speaker 2: turn his chair around and be like, you know, Biggie

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Speaker 2: small Is and William Shakespeare are actually kind of the same.

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Speaker 1: You're making a joke. That is what I needed. That

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Speaker 1: I would have loved school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you would have found the passion that that wasn't

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Speaker 1: Did you teach?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever teach? Kift it and ord talented? I

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Speaker 2: recognize that like that, sometimes your behavior in school is

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Speaker 2: it turns out, it's just this environment more than it

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Speaker 1: And also just my faith in the schooling system would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we should read the email, but I immediately have

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Speaker 2: my skepticisms at this premise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is not I'm not aspetting. I have

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Speaker 1: it in my family directly, Like I don't want to

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Speaker 2: Frankly, I'm sure we do, and that's okay. Yeah, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I think you know we're gonna get this wrong and

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be okay, and you're gonna maybe a few

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Speaker 2: of you will be mad at us for that, and

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Speaker 1: Our best team means talk shit about you in.

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Speaker 2: The group chat. Yeah, I mean we're gonna be real

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Speaker 2: mean about you. Don't like you. You want to read it,

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Speaker 2: you want me to. I can read this on that

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Speaker 2: it says gonna get straight into it. I came across

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Speaker 2: with TikTok this weekend and I'm still in stilling shook. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm still shook. I'm being shitty. I'm still shook in it.

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Speaker 2: The woman says, I saw this thing on Facebook that

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Speaker 2: classes in the nineties and early two thousands, how's your

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Speaker 2: ADHD High functioning anxiety and perfectionists based procrastination? Going pause,

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Speaker 2: I thought they put in those classes because I was

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Speaker 2: lot of TikTok evidence, which I haven't watched, but goes

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Speaker 2: with what has clearly been thirty four years of undiagnosed

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Speaker 2: I just quit. Would love to hear your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: this the theory, not me and my shit I'm working through.

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of the podcast. I need y'all

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Speaker 2: to get more listeners so it never goes away. Me too.

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Speaker 2: I think I think David and I share that sentiment.

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Speaker 2: We'd like more people listening so that we don't have

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Speaker 1: And you want if you think Likeson wants to teach again.

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Speaker 2: Boy, not not you niggas. I just I'll teach y'all

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Speaker 2: versions of niggas.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I listen every Tuesday morning when I'm making breakfast. I

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Speaker 2: start my day just laughing. And please give yourselves more credit.

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Speaker 2: Y'all offer intelligent nuance takes, and I'm going to need

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Speaker 2: y'all to claim that.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It seems like this goes on to be a lot

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Speaker 2: of very glowing sweet things which I'm not gonna read.

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Speaker 2: That feels a little too warned for my Have.

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Speaker 1: You picked up on a theme. We can't accept it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this these are very sweet words and they mean

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Speaker 2: the world to us. And shut the fuck up. Keep

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Speaker 2: doing what you're doing. They say, you are making this weirdo.

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Speaker 2: This weirdo laugh every week. Sign no name. I huh.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think about this is maybe a good

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Speaker 2: shitty unlearning that I need to do as an older

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Speaker 2: Is I often associate neurodivergence with what is in school

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Speaker 1: Which from what I understand, that's more on the neurodivergent

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Speaker 2: which I don't think I think of when I I ADHD. Yes,

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Speaker 1: That's a bias that I have, definitely in that, Like

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, that's the same thing, baby girl.

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Speaker 1: Oh here we go, Bay coming through. Although neurodiversity is

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I think my and I think your interpretation

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Speaker 2: interpretation of ain't we all neurodivergent because we all sort

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Speaker 2: of like approach the world in our own special way.

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Speaker 1: Right, everyone's beautiful, but not everyone's Jane Aiko, Come on,

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Speaker 1: I did that for.

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Speaker 2: You that it could only be for me. I check

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Speaker 1: Do you think she's gonna slide into yours? Well?

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Speaker 2: I can't on account of this das only family I've built.

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Speaker 2: But in a world where she Lady Who's I think,

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