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Speaker 1: Fourth quarter, we have a tie game in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: After he yet another turnover.

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Speaker 1: It is the thirty sixth turnover of the game tonight,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers tie it up with the Eagles sixteen a piece.

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Speaker 1: Cabern Dickers field goal gives us an even game. Now

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Speaker 1: midway through the fourth quarter, charters getting the football back again.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more on this game coming up in a

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Speaker 1: few minutes. But hey, it's been sloppy. The quarterback's begetting hit.

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Speaker 1: There've been a lot of tip balls interceptions. But it's

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Speaker 1: close on a Monday night.

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. That's holiday season here for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Tie game, final six minutes, it's an absolute gift to

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Speaker 3: us Justin Herbert six sacks, Jalen Hirts with more interceptions

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Speaker 3: tonight than he had all season combined coming into this game.

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Speaker 1: Uh, there has been I would say, overall before you

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Speaker 1: get back into the college world playoffs and overall last

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Speaker 1: week regular season, in fantasy playoffs, anybody who started outside

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Speaker 1: of Barkley or maybe a little bit of a mari

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Speaker 1: and Hampton, right, because he does have the touchdown, and

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Speaker 1: there's lots of guys that got started this week in

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Speaker 1: fantasy on both of these teams. You are unbleep and

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Speaker 1: happy with what you've seen so far tonight because nobody

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Speaker 1: is having a big night. Everybody's got guys going Tonight's

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Speaker 1: gonna lose. Everybody's gonna lose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unless you had Barkley might have gotten into survival

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Speaker 3: or the kickers. Yeah, Okay, be one of the biggest

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Speaker 3: scores of the week, So you know, take that for it.

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Speaker 3: He was it worth what twenty five twenty six points

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Speaker 3: in most leagues sell.

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Speaker 1: Again, we'll have more in this game coming up in

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Speaker 1: a few minutes, but the reaction to the college football

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Speaker 1: playoff the last twenty four hours has been all over

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Speaker 1: the map, and you've heard all the different arguments. You've

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Speaker 1: heard everything, so what we like to do is to

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Speaker 1: give you something new. Yes, Notre Dame has left out

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Speaker 1: Why Notre Dame Miami weren't flipped before this week?

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Speaker 3: Stunning?

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Speaker 1: Why teams like James Madison and Tulane get in stunning?

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Speaker 1: You can't tell me you have the best twelve teams.

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Speaker 1: It is a really faulty process. And and everything was

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Speaker 1: laid bare with the unveiling of the college football Playoff

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Speaker 1: a day ago. And the first thing I want to

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Speaker 1: say is this is that this was inevitable and predictable

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Speaker 1: cause college football has no rules. They have no rules.

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Speaker 1: There's no one running the ship. There's not even someone

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Speaker 1: who I can say is corrupt and they're taking money. No,

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Speaker 1: there's no one running college football. It's the conferences are

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Speaker 1: out for themselves, the big teams out for themselves. College

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Speaker 1: football has no rules. It's how we got to the

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Speaker 1: nil era, It's how we got to the transfer era.

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Speaker 1: It's why we are where we are. There are no

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Speaker 1: rules in college football. So if there's no rules, how

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Speaker 1: do you expect the playoff to go any different than

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Speaker 1: it did? That looks like an absolute mess, and people

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Speaker 1: last week. Of course there was going to be this messy.

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Speaker 1: Of course it's gonna be like this because when you

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Speaker 1: should have been absolutely predictable. And anybody who thought it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so long as you have a system in place,

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Speaker 3: and look a lot more vocal proponents of get it

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Speaker 3: back to the computers, Like you all hated the computers,

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Speaker 3: But I like the computers. But you know, I joke before,

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Speaker 3: Or when you're going for, say a nomination at any

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Speaker 3: tearing other people down. In this case, you've got folks

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Speaker 3: Why because they get more of the gold, they get

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Speaker 3: That's what they said. After the fact. We never him

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Speaker 3: side by side. You're glad. We don't believe you. But

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Speaker 3: it made for a better TV show. Because every year,

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Speaker 3: a sudden, like whoa wait, wait, you mean oh you

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Speaker 3: mean division? You mean conference champions?

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, delete, delete, delete delete. You know you know

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Speaker 1: how I feel about this, and I feel weird about this.

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Speaker 1: But do you ever have have a friend who you're

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Speaker 1: learned your bleeping lesson. That's kind of how I feel

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Speaker 1: college football. Of course, how much we talk about how

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Speaker 1: now I'm like, good, I'm glad you own this absolute

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Speaker 3: I good. I feel like a good I told you

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Speaker 1: You know, we were friends, we're really close, and I

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Speaker 3: This is stupid. But the funny thing and all of

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Speaker 3: They've got to live. And it's it's pretty nice when

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Speaker 3: when we're talking about this process that we're all important

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Speaker 3: is Notre Name more captivating. Absolutely, you saw the numbers

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Speaker 3: last year. Right. It brings up people to the yard

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Speaker 3: So it just makes this whole month leading up into

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Speaker 1: The death of the weekly college football polls, You're an idiot.

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Speaker 3: None of those things. I thought it was funny that

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Speaker 3: Let them coach it out. It's like, we gotta get

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Speaker 3: be again. College football has no rules. The shows are fun, right,

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Speaker 3: The conference champions games make money.

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Speaker 1: Right, All of this, all of this is happening. This

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Speaker 1: this poll and say, wow, this one. We knew college

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna get rid of con You're stupid if

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna suddenly be hey, we got somebody in

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Speaker 1: as far as all those things, it's the death of this.

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Speaker 1: It's the end of it. No, all of those things

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Speaker 1: you again, pay more attention. Yeah, the accal changes time

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Speaker 1: breaker rules. I think we can get I will say this,

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Speaker 1: what do we.

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Speaker 3: Say last week?

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Speaker 1: That's the ACC's fault from making the stupid tie breaker again.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it last hour. The ACC needs to

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Speaker 1: be more of a forward thinking conference. And understand you

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Speaker 1: are in it as cutthroat as the Big Ten and

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Speaker 1: the SEC are and when it came to well, we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna have it, No, have some kind of vision

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Speaker 1: at wolla lo. What if the teams that have we're

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Speaker 1: Look, I mean it's it's they're going to be changes

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Speaker 1: This is exactly something where college football can take a

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Speaker 1: But we're still gonna have conferences, tournaments, We're still gonna

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Speaker 3: But the Notre Dame Miami thing was the only thing

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio studios. So understand, that's where cut, That's what

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Speaker 3: What's happening Man? Happy Monday?

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Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on gentlemen about it all right?

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Speaker 1: So you got to help us out here, Jay, So

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Speaker 1: the Colts, after injuries to Daniel Jones now out for

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Speaker 1: to week they are going to work out Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Philip Rivers, by the way, last played four

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Speaker 4: We don't have many kids that they have. They had

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Speaker 3: How about there more talk of where Lamar is physically

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Speaker 3: feet down okay, hey toejamp on the sideline, but across

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Speaker 3: the middle.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I mean I don't I don't understand Jay any

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Speaker 1: of that call and not allowing that touchdown.

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Speaker 3: That When I see plays like that, I go wow.

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Speaker 3: I look back and.

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Speaker 1: I go Sometimes the NFL just decides we're gonna really

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Speaker 1: look at this and see if we can do everything

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Speaker 1: we can to change this call.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes they don't. And this is one of them.

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Speaker 1: Real they did everything they could to change that call

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Speaker 1: that clearly was a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Big Brother jumps in and gets caught up in the

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Speaker 4: weeds in the venutia in one game and another game,

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Speaker 4: they're willing to let head to head collisions on a

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Speaker 4: quarterback go. They're willing to let guys being dragged into

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Speaker 4: the end zone by by four people not push them behind,

448
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Speaker 4: but pulled across the line like they're letting things. They

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Speaker 4: get called out in real time by announcers and refereeing experts.

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Speaker 4: Refereeing experts to the league, by the way, was too

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Speaker 4: cheap to keep. That's why they all laughed, because they

452
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Speaker 4: could make more money talking about it on TV than

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Speaker 4: he could actually overseeing it for the NFL. That's I'll

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Speaker 4: cheap the billionaires. Yeah, we find ourselves in predicaments like this,

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Speaker 4: I mean two feet down in a football move, and

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Speaker 4: like I had no money on likely to catch a touchdown,

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Speaker 4: Like it didn't affect my pocketbook, and it didn't affect

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Speaker 4: any fandom. But like he's got two feet out almost

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Speaker 4: a third foot and he takes the ball and extends

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Speaker 4: it away from the defender. If that's not a football move,

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Speaker 4: what the hell the football move?

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Speaker 3: Fair boy? Jason locking for our guest Washington Bows one

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Speaker 3: five seven the fan wanna bet with us dot com?

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Speaker 3: Uh where you find at? Jason lockinfor on X for

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Speaker 3: all of that in the above and his missives on

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Speaker 3: the NFL as we roll forward. So but stay in

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Speaker 3: the AFC North Shador Sanders now the King of Yak

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Speaker 3: and he's got the job for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's he's held up pretty well with a

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Speaker 4: team that's fizzle and collapsed, playing for a coach who

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Speaker 4: clearly never wanted anything to do with him. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's really any other choice, Like, what

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Speaker 4: are you can go back to Dylan Gabriel and then

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Speaker 4: this guy, actually, Garry Judy actually plays football again. You know,

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Speaker 4: both tight ends and I know when Juco Djoko got

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Speaker 4: hurt again in this game, but like both tight ends

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Speaker 4: actually played football again, Like they actually run rounds where

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Speaker 4: they have a chance of the ball hitting them in

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Speaker 4: they's more than four feet downfield. Like it's it's I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's shameful what they did. It really is. It's ridiculous

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Speaker 4: that they wasted a half this kid's rookie year so

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Speaker 4: that they could look at Flacco for three or four

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Speaker 4: weeks and then look at you know, waste six weeks

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Speaker 4: with going Gabriel pretending that he's an NFL quarterback or

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Speaker 4: has a chance to be an NFL quarterback. Like it's really,

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Speaker 4: it's really kind of ridiculous because we should know more

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Speaker 4: about Shador Standers. They should know more about schor Sanders.

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Speaker 4: You know, you draft him where you draft him, and

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Speaker 4: maybe you don't want to play him at first, like okay,

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Speaker 4: but but when you're training Flacco and then you're going

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Speaker 4: to Gabriel, it's just it's it's ridiculous. But whatever, Uh

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Speaker 4: I don't know, guys like uh I don't know if

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Speaker 4: the Fanski will still be there. I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure Sanders will be there, but like, I don't know

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Speaker 4: if he's gonna be competing with a veteran. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if they're going to use the high draft they

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Speaker 4: want to on a quarterback again, Like, is Andrew Barry

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Speaker 4: definitely there or was the Podesta's departure a sign of

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Speaker 4: other moves to Comba. Don't know the answer to all

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Speaker 4: those questions, but he's definitely the best quarterback on their

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Speaker 4: roster and an even close.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jay, how about this? We watched the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: lose last night. The Texans keep rolling their defense playing

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Speaker 1: at such a high level.

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Speaker 3: Are the Chiefs cooked for this season? Can they still

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Speaker 3: find their way back? Where are you on this?

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Speaker 4: I mean they're cooked to the Super Bowl contender like

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Speaker 4: they you know, I don't know, to just fall off

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Speaker 4: a cliff and you know, this game tonight is obviously

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Speaker 4: huge for them, and the Chargers hold on here or not?

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's kind of everything for for these guys.

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Speaker 4: Obviously they've got some head to head to head lost instacts,

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Speaker 4: head to head lost and suson. So that's gonna be

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Speaker 4: real tough at the time with those guys and any

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Speaker 4: sort of wild card, uh situation. I mean, they're they're

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Speaker 4: horribly flawed football team. They're they're U age, and their

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Speaker 4: their age in some spots and just their the lack

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Speaker 4: of ability in others. It's it's kind of shocking, how

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Speaker 4: what we're not that far removed from them winning seventeen

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Speaker 4: straight one score games, you know, and now they get

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Speaker 4: in a close and late situation and you just kind

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Speaker 4: of wait for them to melt down there. You know,

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Speaker 4: something to go wrong and guy to drop the ball

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Speaker 4: and got to knock the ball off his hands to

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Speaker 4: the other team, kick her to miss one. It's just

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Speaker 4: they find a myriad of ways to lose now, which

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Speaker 4: is the antithesis of what they've been.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always been the one score game going the

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Speaker 3: other way back into the playoffs. So now we got

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Speaker 3: a live Miami Dolphins after they take down the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, look, I think they're keeping keeping your coach

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Speaker 4: and your quarterbacks employed down there, which if you're a

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Speaker 4: Dolphins fan, should probably make it. But I think it's

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Speaker 4: gonna run back with these guys, I really do. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I think they'll probably be pretty bad by thanks

536
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Speaker 4: killing again next year, and then the owner is going

537
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Speaker 4: to be deep enough down the road where he'll be

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Speaker 4: paying two or sixty millions one more time, and everybody

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Speaker 4: will be gone by this time next year. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're winning games. And look, they've allowed seventeen or fewer,

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Speaker 4: I think in for of their last five games. Anthony

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Speaker 4: Weavers doing a really nice job with the defense, even

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Speaker 4: after they traded Jalen Phillips, And they're running the hell

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Speaker 4: out of football. You know, that's really what it is.

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Speaker 4: I mean, too, is not doing anything special. He has

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Speaker 4: hit the occasional deep shot the wattle, which is more

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Speaker 4: than he did in the pass. But it's it's really

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Speaker 4: kind of old school, and it's been it's been really

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Speaker 4: effective the last four or five weeks. And look, could

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Speaker 4: they go into Pittsburgh and beat them Monday night? I

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Speaker 4: certainly think they could because they can run the ball

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Speaker 4: and that's been obviously a problem for Pittsburgh, and hell,

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Speaker 4: it's been a problem for Pittsburgh against teams in that division.

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Speaker 4: So but no, I don't think they're particularly close to

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Speaker 4: being a true contender. But I don't think many people

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Speaker 4: would want to come into that situation as a head

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Speaker 4: coach and have to inherit to and inherit all of that.

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Speaker 4: And you know he's McDaniel's kuy So I think the

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Speaker 4: book coming back honesty.

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Speaker 1: Washington Post one oh five seven The fan in Baltimore

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Speaker 1: wanna bet with us dot com Jason lockinfor a Jay

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Speaker 1: as always, Buddy, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Man, have a great week. We'll talk to you.

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Speaker 4: You guys are the same.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jason.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific. Incredible drama. Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: If you like turnovers and big plays and field goals,

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Speaker 1: Monday Night was your night. The Chargers beat the Eagles

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Speaker 1: twenty two to nineteen. LA improves to nine and four,

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia drops to eight and five. Jalen Hurd is intercepted

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Speaker 1: for the fourth time of the night a ball he

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Speaker 1: tried to sneak in to Dotson that was better left,

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Speaker 1: not thrown. And the Eagles go down to defeat, and

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Speaker 1: now you're wondering can they even hold on to the

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Speaker 1: NFC East? Now Dallas is going. Man, if we had

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Speaker 1: just able to win if we get a beaten Detroit.

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Speaker 1: But there's still a lot. You're talking about four games left, man,

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles are just completely on vapors now, and

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Speaker 1: it's tough to watch the defending champs, who have such

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Speaker 1: a talented roster go the way they're going. But luckily,

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon, I can solve all the eagles problems right now.

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Speaker 3: You can solve their problems. Yes, so you are the

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Speaker 3: figurative Jeff Goldbloom in this situation. We're off to see

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Speaker 3: the Wizard.

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Speaker 1: Are either gonna say like life finds Away like Jurassic Park. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we can do that too, life finds Away.

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Speaker 3: He might have actually been construed as a good guy

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Speaker 3: at a grand scale there, alright, right, let me go otherwise, Hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Let me go back to the Fly where he was

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Speaker 1: a good guy and a bad guy. There you go, Oh, Brundle,

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Speaker 1: Sid Brundle, Fly fuses with pod. Oh no, that was

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Speaker 1: kind of like if Harvey Kaitel was a dinosaur and

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Speaker 1: he was mad.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, tail, it hurts to his teammates through so

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Speaker 3: many bad picks. Now, sorry, how can I solve the Eagles? Problems.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Miami Dolphins. Wait what training with the Dolphins. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: no no. The Dolphins hold the key to what the

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Speaker 3: Eagles need to do.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Dolphins, yesterday they thumped the Jets right a game in

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Speaker 1: which the Jets clearly weren't ready. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they practiced all week. It's twenty one to nothing midway

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Speaker 1: through the first quarter, and suddenly CBS is running the stats.

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Speaker 1: When's the last time a team was up this big?

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Speaker 1: There a team scored twenty eight points in the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: It was absolutely a blow again. I don't feel like

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Speaker 1: the Jets knew anything that the Dolphins were trying to do.

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Speaker 1: And all the Dolphins did was just give the ball

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Speaker 1: to Devon eight chan and right a little bit of

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Speaker 1: Oli Gordon later on, and they just ran the ball

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Speaker 1: and ran over the Jets.

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Speaker 3: That's all they did was run the football. I saw

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Speaker 3: the stop stop, he's already dead. Guy way too far.

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Speaker 3: It was really early too. I'm like, wait, yeah, eight

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Speaker 3: minutes to go in the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: Game was over, right, But this is about the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins who started out one and six, it was over.

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Speaker 1: McDaniel was getting fired to it was going to be

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Speaker 1: on a new team. It was about as bad as

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Speaker 1: it could be for Miami because everything was coming apart.

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Speaker 1: It was going to be a new regime in next year.

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Speaker 1: Everything was going to be new. Now what's Miami done?

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Speaker 1: Now they're six and seven, all right, they have figured

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Speaker 1: out a way back into the back end of the

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Speaker 1: playoff chase. Now they've won four in a row and

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Speaker 1: five out of six.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what have they done?

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Speaker 1: They did exactly what the Eagles need to do. And

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Speaker 1: it's a tough decision because, you know, the Dolphins is

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Speaker 1: kind of easy because look, we're terrible in one and six,

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Speaker 1: Eagles are the champs. The Dolphins went from we are

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Speaker 1: a high octane offense with Waddle and Tyreek Hill and Tua.

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Speaker 1: We still believe in Tua even though you know they don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Smith with eighty eight ago, Oh yeah, once upon

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Speaker 1: a time, you know, and we have you know, and

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Speaker 1: a Chan's a great running back and we can you know,

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Speaker 1: he's part of what we have going on. But we

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Speaker 1: are going to be a high octane offense going up

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Speaker 1: and down the field. Well, what happened, Tyreek Kill got

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Speaker 1: hurt and Mike McDaniel, I give I give the guy

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Speaker 1: credit because now not only he saved his career at Miami,

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Speaker 1: he saved to his career in Miami, he saved their season.

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00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: He decided, we need to change who we are. We're

647
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: not gonna win that way, because they weren't gonna win

648
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: that way anyway. Before Tyreek Hill got hurt. You could

649
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: see the TUA that the Dolphins got figured out. As

650
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: good as they were fifteen months ago, they got figured

651
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: out we need to become a run first football team.

652
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: And for a Miami Dolphin team that the you know,

653
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: their hallmark has always been we're throwing the football, right,

654
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: no matter what kind of situation, whatever kind of team

655
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: they have, they're always a team that throws the football. No,

656
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: we are going to become a ball control team. We

657
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: have the horses offensively to do this. And two was

658
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: going to become a game manager. And he can still

659
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: make plays once in a while, which he did right.

660
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: He made the big throw for a touchdown in the

661
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: first quarter yesterday, made a couple of throws at Jalen Waddle.

662
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: But this was a Dolphins team that ran for two

663
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty yards and a chan before he left.

664
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: He could have gone back in the game, but McDaniel

665
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: said there was no reason to because you.

666
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: Have to worry about it. If they were running all

667
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 3: over the.

668
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: Jets, didn't matter who was running with us. Ricky Williams

669
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: could have been running the football. He's fifty years old,

670
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: and we would have been able to have this kind

671
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: of success against the Jets. That's all we did. Right,

672
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Wrights, you're leading rusher. Yesterday he didn't get a

673
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: carry until the second quarter. Ran for one hundred yards. Right,

674
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: he had ninety two Yead Gordon had seventeen in a touchdown.

675
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: This is what the Dolphins did. They turned themselves into

676
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: a ball control We're gonna run the football first, and

677
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: we're taking our identity and we're changing it and we're

678
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: changing from the throw first team that we are to

679
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: this hey pinball team. We're gonna light up the scoreboard.

680
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: And look what it's done. The Dolphins now have fought

681
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: their way back in the back end of contention. Right,

682
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: they're six and seven.

683
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: The Eagles need to.

684
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: Do the exact same. Sixty seven sixty seven, sixty seven, right,

685
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: six seven. I had to do it, and now the

686
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: Eagles need to do the same thing. We talked about

687
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: this earlier in the show What's Been, but for a

688
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: different reason the Eagles coming into this year, you knew

689
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna be a Saquon Barkley heavy year for

690
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: most part because Barkley with all the carries coming off

691
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: last year, you just don't have the same kind of year.

692
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: And Barkley has not been that guy. The Eagles have

693
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: tried for a long time to try to say, Okay,

694
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is going to solve our problems. We are

695
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: going to throw the football up and down the field.

696
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 3: We have the guys to do it right. That a

697
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: great tight end.

698
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna get aj Brown on track, DeVante Smith is

699
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: a great weapon. We're gonna find a way to do it. Man,

700
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't care what. We are gonna find a way

701
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: to do it. And after all these weeks into week thirteen,

702
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: they still can't do it right. Different reports about how

703
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: much Jalen Hurts is liked or not liked on the team,

704
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: how much they don't like or don't like, like or

705
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: don't like each other, how much they like or don't

706
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: like Nick Siriani, whatever control Nick Sirianni has with the

707
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: team with the with the offense when they throw the football,

708
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: maybe or maybe not. Jalen Hurts is changing plays and

709
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: and and going rogue. We had that report a couple

710
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. However, you want to shake it, shake

711
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: it up. Going Jalen Hurts driven is not working. They

712
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: tried to make it work because you thought you had too. Well,

713
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: he's our quarterback, we're paying him. He's won a super Bowl.

714
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: Now this is he is. He is that good. But

715
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: it's not working.

716
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: They give plenty of chances to do it. You have

717
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: to get back to being Saquon Barkley driven. Now It's okay, Saquon.

718
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: We haven't had the same kind of workload we gave

719
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: you last because we've been a different team and we

720
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: know that you're not that guy. But now that we're

721
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: into December, that's who you have to be. That's who

722
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: we have to be. They have to be Saquon Barkley driven.

723
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: And what did they do tonight? They gave the ball

724
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: to Saquon Barkley a lot, had the big touchdown run.

725
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: If you're Saquon Barkley driven, I can buy back in

726
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: the on the Eagles because their roster is just that talented.

727
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: The rest of the offense and defensively, if they can

728
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: become more of a team like the Dolphins where Hurtz

729
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: becomes a game manager and you're Saquon Barkley driven, then

730
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: I can believe in you because I know I've seen

731
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: Barkley do it. And after having not and after having

732
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: a first twelve or thirteen weeks where not as many carries,

733
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: you're as fresh as you're gonna be at this point,

734
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: and Barkley running up and down the sideline after that

735
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: big fifty yard touchdown run. Okay, let's be Saquon Barkley driven.

736
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: What did the Eagles not do in the rest of

737
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: the fourth court in overtime? Give the ball to Saquon Barkley,

738
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: and what happened? You have Jalen Hurts coming off a

739
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: no touchdown for interception performance and Saquon Barkley running for

740
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: one hundred yards the big go ahead touchdown. If this

741
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: doesn't tell you we have to change our philosophy and

742
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: change who we are, nothing else does. No scores four

743
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: picks for Jalen Hurts, one hundred yards and a touchdown

744
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: for Barkley. If they are Barkley driven the rest of

745
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: the way. I will buy back in on the Eagles.

746
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: I will get back into them being a team that

747
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: can cause damage in the playoffs, because there's no great

748
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: team anywhere, not in the NFC, not in the AFC.

749
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: I will buy back in. But this is the game

750
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: that shows you they have to do it, because you see, Hey,

751
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: if the Eagles keep trying to tread this and go

752
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: on this line of yeah, we're gonna throw the football

753
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: a ton and still try to make it work with

754
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Hurts and Brown and DeVante Smith, You've tried it way

755
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: too much. It's not working to be the offense you

756
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: were last year because Barkley covered a lot of issues

757
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: last year, covered a lot of problems for the Eagles.

758
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: Still had problems offensively last year, but Barkley running for

759
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: two thousand yards, you're able to cover up a lot.

760
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Usually it's a quarterback that covers up a lot of ills.

761
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: Barkley coming in the personality that he was. Everybody loves

762
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. It was a great moment in time. Eagles

763
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: have to draw back on that formula, and I'll buy

764
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: back in.

765
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, We've talked a lot about the continuity, consistency, leadership

766
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 3: in the locker room, all of those things with Jay Glazer,

767
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 3: Me and Cosell on Sunday mornings a little bit. And

768
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 3: you and I certainly have tossed this one back and

769
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: forth like a medicine ball in a big workout, oftentimes

770
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: trying to figure out exactly what we're doing here because

771
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: you've had the injuries on the offensive line. Obviously you

772
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: lose Jason Kelsey. He's hanging out in the podcast land

773
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: with his multi million dollar deal in all and I'm

774
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: sure they wish he was back there as an anchor

775
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: and a locker room guy and all of that stuff

776
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: to kind of solidify. But we haven't seen the same

777
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: explosion off the line by the front five, right, so

778
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: we haven't had that. Jalen Hurts is right now in

779
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: half his yardage that he had rushing the football last year.

780
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: His passing numbers very much in line with what he

781
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: put across for a full season and what he played

782
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: last year. Last year he had eighteen touchdowns against five picks,

783
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: basically at that same line at this point. Now he

784
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: goes over to the sixth pick with that game sealer.

785
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: But we watched them move the ball and actually commit

786
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: to Saint Kawan Barkley. If we watched that over the

787
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: course of the season as well, you had a number

788
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: of games where he didn't get to double digit touches.

789
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: It hasn't been as active in the passing game, but

790
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: certainly from a rushing perspective, they haven't tried to set

791
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: up balance. Hell I would have excused it even if

792
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 3: they brought in Tank Bigsby, who they traded for somebody

793
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 3: else had tried to run the ball, but they haven't

794
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: even done that. Hurts tonight four carries eight yards. Right,

795
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: you're not even using what was a big part that

796
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: helped make him super a little bit more, especially kind

797
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 3: of like we're watching the diminished versions physically of Lamar

798
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: Jackson in some of these other quarterbacks. Right, you're seeing

799
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: more scrambles from Patrick Mahons, still seeing the Superman cape

800
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: come out for Josh Allen, but for Jalen Hurts, we're

801
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: not seeing that, and not even the tush push being

802
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: utilized to the same level of effectiveness. Remember the Bears

803
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: stole the ball from him, but final possession, we kept

804
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: looking at each other just shrugging our shoulders because he's

805
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: trying to push down field. You got that big completion

806
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: to Smith, got the big sideline route to Goddard, no

807
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: calls to put the ball back in Saquon Barkley's gut.

808
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 3: You got that defense that's been on the field a

809
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: ton all night, and you finally have a little bit

810
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: of an advantage where you're winning that trench warfare and

811
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: you don't go to that instead pushing the ball down

812
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: the field. Great play by the defenders, no question about it.

813
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: But for the rest of this season, you're looking at

814
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: a schedule that's really advantageous for them. Only the Saints

815
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: and Giants have lesser quality of opponents. You've got a

816
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: game against the Bills and week to week we watched them,

817
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: still a top ten scoring defense, but other issues. And

818
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: then you have the Raiders and two games against the

819
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: whatever's left of the Commanders. Right at this point, I

820
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: don't even know. I guess Marcus Mariona comes back, so

821
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: they'll be winging the ball around. But it's that idea

822
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 3: of you've got a t terrible team and at whatever

823
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: you know, however you want to describe either of those

824
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: those squads with Buffalo as your only plus team still

825
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: on this and you could still go get it right.

826
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 3: It's still theirs for the taking in terms of the division.

827
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: But we're at going into week fifteen and still scratching

828
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 3: our heads going what are we doing? Look, and here's

829
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: the thing and here's why he can do it right.

830
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: Last year, Barkley three hundred and forty five carries, okay,

831
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: three forty five carries, and he caught thirty three passes

832
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: and then what he had in the playoffs. Right, it's

833
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: nearly five hundred touches from Barkley last year. Okay, he

834
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: needed some time, you know, you don't bounce back. Took

835
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: some time to heal, right, and he tells you, well,

836
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: you had to take a lot of time coming off

837
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: of that. Five hundred touches is a lot in this season.

838
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: Right now, with four games left, he's at one hundred

839
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: and ninety eight touches, so he is far behind his

840
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: pace of last year. So in theory, he should be fresher.

841
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you tonight, it didn't look like

842
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: he was running in mud. It didn't look like he

843
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: was someone who he looked like. He looked like a

844
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: guy that Okay, now it's say Kwon Barkley time when

845
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: he had that fifty two yard touchdown run. He splits

846
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: the defense and goes through and then he's on the sideline.

847
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: You could deal. That was the moment where the Eagles said, hey,

848
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Saquon Barkley is back. He's our guy.

849
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Now he's had a lot less carry. You look at

850
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: his numbers week to week. This is where he should

851
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: be fresh. Right, We're into early part of December and

852
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: there's you know, we have four games left and the

853
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: division's there for you. It's an easy it's honestly, I

854
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: think it's an easy call to make. I mean, really,

855
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: it's an easy call to make. And the because the

856
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: Eagles live in dysfunction. Man, it's of course, Hey, Jalen,

857
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a game manager. Now, say Kuan, go ahead.

858
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna get twenty five carries a game. Now,

859
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: that's been how we're gonna win games. Now we're gonna

860
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: control the football, We're gonna limit our turnovers. This is

861
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, right, Like, I mean, I think

862
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: it's a pretty easy decision to make.

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00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: Defense is against the run. Let's see, Commanders are twenty ninth,

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00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 3: the Bills are twenty eighth Raiders. You can do whatever

865
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 3: you want on them, So it's a little.

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00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: That could be a forfeit though, I mean maybe I

867
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: have thought child, that would be a forfeit. Maybe you

868
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: kick a field goal late. I don't know, and Raider

869
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: fans get mad.

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00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: Well your forfeit.

871
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: I think you win to nothing. Right, You can look

872
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: at that scrorel of ten years now going Wow, what

873
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: a game that would have been safety to nothing. Wow,

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00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: what the defense must have been awesome

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00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 4: Nuts