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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live, presented by Calida Health. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we are on a Wednesday, One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you as we inch closer, end closer

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Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. And first and

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Speaker 1: foremost birthday wishes to my broadcast partner Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 2: Happy, happy, thank you, Thank you everyone. Thanks for the

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Speaker 2: well wishes on social media and all that. That's been

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Speaker 2: very nice.

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Speaker 1: Yes, how is he celebrating. He's celebrated with a show

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Speaker 1: and a burrito. That's basically where he lives.

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Speaker 2: Nice gift from the my broadcast crew. I walked in

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Speaker 2: today and most of you know who watched the show.

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Speaker 2: I have readers that I use constantly. They're on, they're off,

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Speaker 2: they're on, they're off. It's very distracting for some viewers

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Speaker 2: and listeners, and the listeners especially right because they hear

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Speaker 2: about it. They can hear me. Oh no, I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: So I use readers all the time. And so I

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Speaker 2: get in to sit down at my desk today and

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Speaker 2: there were four dozen pairs of reading glass still in

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Speaker 2: the packages, dumped on my dump literally dumped unceremoniously on

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Speaker 2: my desk.

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Speaker 1: Now, the reason we purchased these for Steve as a

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Speaker 1: birthday gift is because in his own possession he has

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Speaker 1: in various locations six pair of cheater glasses, the reason

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Speaker 1: being he can't remember where he put the last one

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Speaker 1: that he wore, so he'll have one or two here

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Speaker 1: in the studio, he's got one in his car, he's

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Speaker 1: got one at home, he's got two at his desk

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Speaker 1: in his office, and invariably two will disappear and he'll

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Speaker 1: start walking around searching for them. So we figured to

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Speaker 1: remedy that situation, we would get him pair.

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Speaker 2: They got like Harry. They got me like Harry, carry

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Speaker 2: cheater glass and they're like huge black goggles. So if

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Speaker 2: if you'll know that I, when I start cutting into

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Speaker 2: that supply that I've gotten down to it, the show

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Speaker 2: won't go on unless I do have at least one pair.

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Speaker 1: N I will tell you that there's probably three or

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Speaker 1: four times over the course of a calendar year where

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Speaker 1: pharmacy or the drug store and go get another pair.

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Speaker 2: I have. I have a double of go two spots

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Speaker 2: around the stadium that I go to and I'm just

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Speaker 1: So this, uh, this will remedy that he will no

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Speaker 1: longer have to run out at least for the next.

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Speaker 2: Four or five years. Set plenty of free set to

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that was a little bit of a gag gift, obviously,

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Speaker 1: but we had fun with that, and Steve was a

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Speaker 1: good sport about it, as he usually is. We got

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Speaker 1: to go around the NFL here there's some league news

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Speaker 1: concerning some of their showcase games at the start of

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four season and around the NFL, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: But it was announced today that the opponent for the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, who are already announced as one of the

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Speaker 1: teams in the Friday night weekend kickoff Brazil game, will

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Speaker 1: be playing the Green Bay Packers in Week one, So

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Speaker 1: they'll have the season kickoff game Week one, which I

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Speaker 1: know you and I believe is going to be Chiefs

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Speaker 1: Ravens in Kansas City, a rematch of the AFC title game.

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Speaker 1: They do play each other this year and it is

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. So that's just tailor made for the

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Speaker 1: kickoff game Thursday night. The Brazil game Friday night will

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Speaker 1: be an all NFC affair Green Bay Philadelphia. And as

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that, it even convinces me further that the

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Speaker 1: That's just my educated guess. I don't know anything, but

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Speaker 2: We always go through it. I mean, this is that

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Speaker 2: in May that the schedule mid May or is it

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Speaker 1: Well, and they do some of those tricular announcements, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Bills will be on like nine

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Speaker 1: Be quite as many primetime games as each of the life.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they'll start out on all those primetime games.

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Speaker 1: Well, and Houston's gonna step into a fan.

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Speaker 2: There's that, So yeah, that's what that'll help.

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Speaker 1: So that is the Brazil Game Packers Eagles Friday Night

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Speaker 1: week one. Some money got thrown around yesterday another player

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Speaker 1: who was franchise tagged back in February, got paid on

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Speaker 1: a long term deal. We've seen others that have gotten

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Speaker 1: long term deals here that were franchised. Kyle Dugger just

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Speaker 1: earlier this week got that four year, sixty eight million

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Speaker 1: million dollar deal, eighty eight of which is guaranteed. And

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Speaker 1: just watching him in that Week five game against the Bills,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's been a menace for years now.

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Speaker 2: If you want to, if you're a parent of a youngster,

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Speaker 2: kill bucks. Yeah, he is a really good player, a

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Speaker 2: really good player, and I'll say this, you can't pay

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Speaker 2: him in a more bigger compliment than this. He's as

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Speaker 1: Hills aren't the only team he gives problems, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's yeah, So it's uh good for him, Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: what they really need is for Trevor Lawrence to fulfill

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Speaker 1: It was good the first year and they did so.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but we'll see.

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Speaker 1: He did not play well last year, or at least

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it'll be interesting to see if he can

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson does when he gets back to full health

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Speaker 1: Will Levis. I mean, you got a lot of young

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Speaker 2: Well, I like Will Levis a lot. I think his

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Speaker 2: He's one of those. Obviously, what he's got to do

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Speaker 2: But think about it, we thought it was bad last

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Speaker 2: part of the conference. Yeah, you go down the list.

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Speaker 1: Oh you don't have to tell me, dude, this is

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Speaker 1: it's it's stack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is stack. You can think of as Lamar,

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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if he'll ever get it

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Speaker 1: Now you've got ta led the league in passing last year.

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Speaker 2: it's a gauntlet. Yep, it's a gauntlet, and it's getting

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Speaker 2: and it's gotten younger, and maybe.

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Speaker 1: Better, might be might be better. I don't think that's.

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields is now in Pittsburgh with Russ.

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Speaker 1: They'll be playing by we want to be right.

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Speaker 2: Week six of the preseason opening day. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: What do they Pittsburgh because they ain't got anything invested

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Speaker 1: No, they they also don't have anything really invested in

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Speaker 1: Fields on the last year of.

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Speaker 2: His right, which means it should be the finger quotes meritocracy,

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Speaker 2: who plays better? Do you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean? Tomlin has come out and said that Wilson

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Speaker 1: is the starter. He has said that publicly. Now obviously

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Speaker 1: that is subject to change based on performance. You know,

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Speaker 1: if he stinks up the first two games and have

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Speaker 2: To me, I'm looking let me. Let me open my

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Speaker 1: Oh you think it's going to be that short of leash?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Mike, listen, I love Mike Tomlin. I got No,

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Speaker 2: there's nobody out there I respect it more than Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: He's the dude. He is mister no no nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely yeah. You don't have to tell me that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so I'm I'm thinking the moment I'm that

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Speaker 2: millisecond after Justin Fields outperforms Russ Wilson, that decision is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got to believe that that's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: because they got to find out about Fields more than

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Speaker 1: they need to know about Wilson, if you know, because

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Speaker 1: what are you doing next year? You're gonna extend him.

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Speaker 2: All that's in the mix, you know, that whole thing,

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Speaker 2: All that's in the mix. One thing you could do

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Speaker 2: if you're if you're Tomlin, and the Steelers say, listen,

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Speaker 2: And at the end of the season he finally does

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Speaker 2: Steelers always do. They got to get in. Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: maybe even get him a ten wins. With Fields finally

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Speaker 2: then you say, okay, well now you can. We'll let you.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep you in this last year of his deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's gonna be a training camp in a

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Speaker 1: Yere why to buy themselves time?

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Speaker 2: There's some analytics categories and you know how they slice

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Speaker 1: Bit of off. Performances have been lacking. I mean, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time with him with playoff utility.

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Speaker 2: He is a guy who drafts with one thing in mind,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think their picks will be as sexy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're tell you that, right. They're at twenty four

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Speaker 2: That ain't happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which neither of us really see coming to fruition.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I could happen.

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Speaker 1: If that happens, happy, I'll be running laps around the

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Speaker 1: So well, I think I had a good chance of

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Speaker 2: He's been on the white board for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's on my whiteboard. I have some alternatives as well.

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Speaker 1: catch up with our good friend from NFL. Network analytics

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Speaker 1: expert Cynthia Freeland will join us. She's got best fits

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Speaker 1: for NFL teams. She'll give us her best fit for

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Speaker 1: the bills, and we'll also chat with her about the

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Speaker 1: merits of trading up or trading down for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: and I think you might be surprised about the options

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Speaker 1: that could be there for Buffalo if the board does

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Speaker 1: doesn't fall the way they anticipate, can't get up, what

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Speaker 1: are the merits to moving back. We'll discuss that with

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Speaker 1: Cynthia as well in the second hour of the program.

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Speaker 1: Topic of discussion for you today. If the Bills do

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Speaker 1: not select a receiver in round one, what would satisfy

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Speaker 1: you in the draft? So maybe you've got it buried

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Speaker 1: in your cerebral cortex that the Bills are taking a

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Speaker 1: receiver in round one and then it doesn't happen. What

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Speaker 1: else has to happen the rest of the draft for

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Speaker 1: you to be satisfied with the Bills. Haul comes Saturday

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Speaker 1: night eight oh three oh five point fifty one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty the numbers to

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Speaker 1: get on board. We've got open lines for you, or

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Speaker 1: you can hit us up on the tweetsheet as always

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Speaker 1: at one Bills Live. But let's jump on the phone

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Speaker 1: lines here where we've got some people waiting, and we

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Speaker 1: go to Brandon out in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: What do you have for his Brandon, Chris Steve, thanks

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Speaker 3: for having me on. If I kids real fast being

462
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Speaker 3: a Bills fan in Indianapolis where I actually grew up

463
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Speaker 3: and I was born in eighty three, and I just

464
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Speaker 3: wanted to say that what gravitated me towards the Bills was,

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Speaker 3: you know, those days when when Steve was on the team,

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Speaker 3: but just just the fan base, and you know, it

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Speaker 3: really is something that people don't understand, even in Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: when I try to explain it to him. So anyways,

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Speaker 3: it's a pleasure to be on talking to you guys.

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Speaker 3: I think it really need to get depth at linebacker.

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Speaker 3: That that and you know they're so good at drafting linebackers,

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Speaker 3: I think, and I'm not saying they have to do

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Speaker 3: it early, and you guys probably know more about debt

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Speaker 3: at linebacker, but I think that would be a that

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Speaker 3: would be probably where Brandon Bean is eyeing somebody in

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Speaker 3: the fourth round and probably in the early rounds if

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Speaker 3: you can solidify the defensive line.

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Speaker 4: But got I sure likely get. I want that physical

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Speaker 4: receiver with upside.

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Speaker 3: So anyways, those are my thoughts having me on.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure thing, thanks for the call, Brandon. Yeah, you're

483
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Speaker 1: in Steve's camp. Steve prefers the big, physical, hulking massive

484
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Speaker 1: a receiver like Xavier Legette. Yeah, and there, now there,

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Speaker 1: we will say this. There is a wide range of

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Speaker 1: opinion on Xavier Legette. Some people think he's a one

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Speaker 1: year wonder, very raw, and we'll need time to develop.

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Speaker 1: It needs to be taken on day one. He's a

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Speaker 1: day two pick all day every day.

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Speaker 2: He needs more experience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there are other people that say, oh, he's

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Speaker 1: just scratching the surface. The ceiling is unlimited and he

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Speaker 1: is a big physical player who can still run away

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Speaker 1: from people. He is unique. Gotta have him. He'll make

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Speaker 1: plays on his own. You don't have to scheme him.

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Speaker 1: Open take them, take them, take them to take easy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The easy thing is that, hey, this is Deebo

498
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Speaker 2: Samuels is better than Deebo Samuels kind of thing, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that that's accurate, but it's that kind

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Speaker 2: of thought process. A big, physical, very versatile athlete where

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Speaker 2: you can line him up everywhere, he can hand him

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Speaker 2: the ball and all that stuff. So I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I like big strong dudes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned linebacker and that interests me as well.

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Speaker 1: I believe they do need to get some depth there

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Speaker 1: because the only linebackers from last year's squad that are

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Speaker 1: still on the roster Milano Bernard and then you have

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Speaker 1: last year's third round choice Dorian Williams and Balen Spector So,

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Speaker 1: Tyrrel Dotson left, he went to Seattle. He's gonna play

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Speaker 1: for Leslie Fraser again up there, and we know Aj

511
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Speaker 1: Klein is probably back on his retirement couch So and

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Speaker 1: Tyler Matakaevich free agent not signed. So yeah, you're devoid

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Speaker 1: of some depth there, and it would make a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. The question is, absent a third round pick

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Speaker 1: as of now, do the Bills address that linebacker need

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Speaker 1: early or late, meaning round two or round four. I

517
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Speaker 1: think if the right values there in round two, it's

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Speaker 1: certainly a possibility. I love the Edgerin Cooper kid out

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Speaker 1: of Texas A and M, who's widely expected to be

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Speaker 1: a Day two pick. Peyton Wilson, the linebacker from NC State,

521
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Speaker 1: is a freaking tackle machine. He's ridiculous and he's got

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Speaker 1: a little edge to him too. He'll let you know

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Speaker 1: how good he is on the field when he buries you.

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Speaker 1: So those two guys are my favorite linebackers. Uh, in

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Speaker 1: the entire class, because I think there's a sharp drop

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Speaker 1: off after that. I mean, there are some other guys

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Speaker 1: you can get from a depth perspective and develop them.

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Speaker 1: The Tyron Hopper kid from Missouri's pretty good. He'll go

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Speaker 1: a little bit later. He's, you know, a fourth round kid.

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Speaker 1: So you know, that's a guy that they could consider

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Speaker 1: with one of their two fourth round choices. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: they do need depth at that position. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any debate about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And also yeah, Edgin, they're having a chance to

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Speaker 2: draft Edgeran Cooper, but they probably won't because they'll have

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Speaker 2: other needs, like particularly at twenty eight sixty, depending on

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Speaker 2: what happens at twenty eight. You can talk me into that,

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Speaker 2: particularly for a kid as good as Edgrian Cooper seems

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Speaker 2: to be, or any of the other's Dallas Turner out.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a bunch of guys in this class

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Speaker 2: that are really good. It seems to me that it

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Speaker 2: is not and we talk about all the time, it's

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Speaker 2: not corner, it's not quarterback. It's not end rush edge rusher,

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Speaker 2: it's not left tackle. It's a you know, it's an

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Speaker 2: inside linebacker in a league that doesn't run it so

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Speaker 2: much anymore.

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Speaker 1: And you're not taking a depth guy in round two, right,

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Speaker 1: you're taking a depth guy in round.

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Speaker 2: Four and they don't need it. They don't need anything

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Speaker 2: but a depth guy. The guys they have at the

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Speaker 2: top of the rotation are really, really good, so they'll wait.

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Speaker 2: They'll wait.

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Speaker 1: Right, Let's get back to the phones. And who we

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Speaker 1: got up here next to who's been waiting the longest?

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Speaker 1: Looks like Dave and Clarence. What's up Dave?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, see happy birthday?

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you on the readers, man, I have

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Speaker 5: to have them all around you, so don't feel bad. Listen, Gus,

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Speaker 5: I want you to help me out. I want to

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Speaker 5: bring closure to this. A Dig's trade, Okay, I have

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Speaker 5: no problem with the trade, but here's my thoughts. If

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Speaker 5: going into the draft, why would we not offer Digs

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Speaker 5: plus eat his thirty one dead cap money and maybe

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Speaker 5: five and six to move up in the draft? That

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Speaker 5: that has been bothering me for the last few days.

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Speaker 5: Because regarding your question today, I'm sorry, I don't see

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Speaker 5: any other move other than a wide receiver. So what

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Speaker 5: do you think is the reason behind I don't I

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Speaker 5: don't expect you guys to know which specificity what Randon

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Speaker 5: was thinking, but it just seems to me that that

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Speaker 5: would be a very attractive offer out there for somebody

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Speaker 5: Digs eating the dead cap money and maybe a five

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Speaker 5: and a six. What do you think, Well.

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Speaker 2: The Bills are gonna eat that money no matter what.

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Speaker 2: But I get what you're saying, Alfred Diggs plus finger

577
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Speaker 2: quotes plus whatever. Yeah, to move with a team now,

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Speaker 2: to trade up in the draft and involve these draft picks, well,

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Speaker 2: as you know, they didn't involve some of the draft

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Speaker 2: picks in this draft. The Bill's got a two next

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Speaker 2: year from Houston and they gave up a couple of

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Speaker 2: picks as well. Plus they're eating the cap. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't yes, Dave, there's just no way to get it done.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna make that deal. Here's as good as it

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Speaker 2: sounds for Buffalo, is as bad as it sounds for

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Speaker 2: somebody else.

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Speaker 1: The crux of the issue is this, we've seen veteran

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Speaker 1: receivers or at least proven NFL receivers get traded during

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Speaker 1: the draft. Yes, it has happened, but who has it

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Speaker 1: largely been. It's largely been receivers still on their first contract.

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Speaker 1: AJ Brown, for example, gets traded from Tennessee to Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: then he gets his big money contract with his new club.

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Speaker 1: So in terms of the cap money moving around or

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Speaker 1: being inherited, it's minimal. I think it's far more palatable

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Speaker 1: to trade a receiver on his first contract than it

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Speaker 1: is a receiver on his third contract, which is the

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00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: situation with Stefan Diggs. Not only that, at this point

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Speaker 1: in the game, a lot of people have used their

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00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: available cap space and can't take on a salary like Digs,

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Speaker 1: which granted was only eighteen eighty five in base salary guaranteed,

601
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Speaker 1: but it was guaranteed nonetheless, and so you inherit that.

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Speaker 1: Can you fit that under your cap? You're wiping out

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Speaker 1: half the league right off the bat, just in terms

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Speaker 1: of cap parameters to work with. So to take the

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Speaker 1: chance and go into the draft and hope you can

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Speaker 1: find a suitable trade partner on draft night. If you

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Speaker 1: can't come up with a suitor for that, now where

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00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: are you. You can't take that level of risk go

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Speaker 1: on draft night. You have to preemptively address that. You know,

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Speaker 1: whether Diggs asked for a trade or whatever. It was

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Speaker 1: that has to be preemptively handled before you get to

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Speaker 1: the draft, because now you're going into the draft saying,

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Speaker 1: I hope we can move him, and if we do,

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Speaker 1: then we'll do a B and C. But what if

615
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: you can't move him, Now you have to flip back

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Speaker 1: to whatever other contingency plan you had.

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Speaker 2: So it's like this, I mean, first of all, like

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Speaker 2: Brownie says, it's too big a rock to push up,

619
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Speaker 2: this is a first of all, the league is thirty

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Speaker 2: one other teams cut down to like ten who could

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Speaker 2: actually fit eighteen million under their cap. And then of

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Speaker 2: those ten who want to move out of a spot

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Speaker 2: where they may get a guy better than Diggs cheaper,

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Speaker 2: then that narrows that field a little further. So now

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00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: you got you're looking with like five teams. Now those

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Speaker 2: five teams you're thinking, okay, well they they you don't

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Speaker 2: want to do it with, the Chiefs, you don't want

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Speaker 2: to do it with, saying la whatever. There are teams

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't do it with. So that narrows it down.

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Speaker 2: So you're down to like one team, and that's that's

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Speaker 2: where it is. So there are so many obstacles to

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Speaker 2: overcome because of the atmosphere in the marketplace, Like Brownie said,

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Speaker 2: you're asking teams to give up way more than the

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Speaker 2: Bills were able to get for him from the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 2: and they're just not that. They're just not going to

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Speaker 2: do it as good as you think that sounds for

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Speaker 2: the Bills, And how much better it would be for

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Speaker 2: the Bills to get that and move up like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the feasibility.

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Speaker 2: The other team's going, why would I do that? You know,

641
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: you just they say no. So that's I mean, there's

642
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: so many things in that in that suit.

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Speaker 1: And they found a team in Houston willing to take

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00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: digs off their hands, but they weren't even gonna even

645
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Speaker 1: They weren't gonna give him a pick to use this

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Speaker 1: year because Houston doesn't have a one anymore. They didn't

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Speaker 1: want to give up a three or one of their

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00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: two two's for digs this year, so they gave him

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Speaker 1: a two next year, and you know that's what Brandon

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Speaker 1: being ended up taking. We have to take a break,

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Speaker 1: but we're wide open for your phone calls. So if

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Speaker 1: you're holding at eight oh three oh five fifty, stay

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Speaker 1: where you are. We'll get to you when we return

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Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live, presented by a lot of health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, here we are on

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live on a Wednesday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

657
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: with you. If the Bills do not select a receiver

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00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: in round one, what would satisfy you in the Bills

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00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: raft eight O three zero five to fifteen the number

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Speaker 1: to get on board. Got an open line for you there.

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00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: But we head back to the phones and Bob and

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Speaker 1: Stockton leads us off. What do you offer us?

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Speaker 6: Bob, Hey, guys, I don't agree with what Steve has

664
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 6: been saying that. You know, our offense has got lots

665
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 6: of weapons. I really hope that we don't take a

666
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 6: receiver in the first round. You look at last year,

667
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 6: the tail end of the season when Diggs's production went down, Cook,

668
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 6: Shakir Kincaid all picked up their production. I think we

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Speaker 6: take a receiver in the second round. With our old

670
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 6: line and Josh Allen, I think we can make a

671
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 6: second round receiver look like a first rounder. I think

672
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 6: we should take a defensive help. I mean, we've only

673
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 6: got Ed and Deakwine that came back kind of lion.

674
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 6: I'd like to see him take a defensive lineman and

675
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 6: maybe even a edge rusher because we don't know what

676
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 6: von status is gonna be. And there's of course always safety,

677
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 6: but I think we need defensive help in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this, and I you know, I kind

679
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: of I'm kind of with you, Bob. I like the

680
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: guys in the room now, and even particularly with with

681
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: Sanders in there. I'm sorry, Samuel in there, Curtis Samuel, Yeah,

682
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: I like Samuel in there with the guys they've got,

683
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 2: certainly they the guys behind him. I don't know about

684
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: Terrell Shavers, I don't know about the rest of them,

685
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: but I think they've got guys that can play, and

686
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: certainly the prove proven with kin Kaid, Shakir Cook, all

687
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: of those guys are and Samuel see, I just I'm

688
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: not I get it. It would be great to have

689
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: one of those big time wide outs to give give

690
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: to Josh and have this offense. B'ren an arms race,

691
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: yes exactly, but I think we've got have you not forgotten?

692
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: I think we've got better weapons than I think we're

693
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 2: giving ourselves credit for me maybe kJ Hammler's on the roster,

694
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: you know, Andy Isabella is still on the roster. I

695
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: get it, and I get caught up in it too,

696
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: and without Digs, you think, wow, this is But you're right.

697
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: They went seven and one down the stretch last year

698
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: with Diggs not helping that much, and while he does

699
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: garner some attention taken away from those guys. Yeah, I

700
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not as sold on that as maybe

701
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: others are. So I'm with you. I don't know that

702
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: there's a gaping hole like we're making it out to be.

703
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: Not on defensive line. I mean, they very quietly have

704
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: filled in some holes in free agency, you know, after

705
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: getting daikuon and aj Epanessa back. They also signed Austin Johnson,

706
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle from the Chargers. They then signed Deshaun Williams,

707
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: another defensive tackle I believe what was a Carolina last year.

708
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: And then they signed the defensive end from Washington, Casey

709
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: two Hill, who's kind of a rich Man's Trent Murphy type.

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00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: I'll say this though, So they filled the holes depth wise.

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00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: I'm kind of still and I don't want to. I

712
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: don't want to. I don't want to be you know,

713
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: sacrilegious here, but I'm kind of still in the best

714
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: Player Available mode. For this reason. If you if there's

715
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: a guy if and I'm that's a big if, if

716
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: there's a guy on the board at whatever position who

717
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 2: is a difference maker, you got to take him because

718
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: if he can make a difference, that's gonna help this

719
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: team no matter where it is. That's kind of where

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00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 2: I'm in the camp of And I don't know whether

721
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean is there or not, because everybody's up in

722
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: arms over the Steph Diggs thing, and oh my gosh,

723
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's no way you can convince me

724
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: that Samuel is not going to be better than Gabe

725
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: Davis in the passing game. He is and Diggs. That

726
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: spot was almost vacated in the second half of the

727
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: year last season, and they were six and one down

728
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: the stretch when they really needed it most and with

729
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: one of the toughest stretches of the schedule ever in

730
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: the in the league last year at that spot and

731
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: they were going six and one down the stretch right

732
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: in the midst of it. We were sitting here before

733
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: the bye week, sad man, it's we got to run this,

734
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: and they did against Kansas City, Kansas City, Dallas. You know,

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00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: here's where it is Chargers. Yeah, it's New England. They

736
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: ran the time Kansas City, Dallas, the Chargers, the Patriots

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Speaker 2: in Philly and Miami, and they took Philly to overtime

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Speaker 2: on the road in a rainstorm. They were cooking.

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Speaker 1: Lost year and went to overtime on the kick of

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Speaker 1: the year in the NFL. That's right, fifty nine yards

741
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Speaker 1: in a driving rainstorm.

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Speaker 2: They were killing it without Steph Diggs being like the

743
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: finger quote Steph Diggs, so I'm Bob from Stockton, had

744
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: kind of the courage take a deep breath and say, well,

745
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: wait a minute. Now, the guys we've got are pretty good.

746
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Speaker 2: And I agree with him. Now, that doesn't mean I

747
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: don't want the shiny object on the shelf if they

748
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: can get it, because I think one of those guys,

749
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: because it sets them up. And I think most of it,

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00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: let's face it, most of what we're talking about here

751
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: sets them up for the future. Right. I mean, you

752
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: got this guy, let's you know, you got a roma

753
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: Dunsa for twelve years, right, I mean that guy's gonna

754
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 2: you know, it's that kind of trajectory. Then we don't

755
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: have to worry about it. That's fine for then, but

756
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 2: for now that need isn't as great as I think

757
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: we're all kind of making it out to be because

758
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: of the Steph Diggs trade. So I'm I see what

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00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 2: Bob from Stockton is saying. I'm still on the wide

760
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 2: receiver train if they're going to go for a need,

761
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's as pronounced as all we're

762
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: all making it out to be. And I'm still of

763
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: the mind that if you're gonna be sound and true

764
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: to yourself, you take the best player there who can

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00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: make the biggest difference for your team at whatever position

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00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: going forward. Because this team, if you're gonna make a

767
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: difference on this team, you're really doing something. And I

768
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 2: think if there's a guy on the board that can

769
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: do that, take him.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to David in Buffalo next.

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Speaker 7: What's up, David, Hi, thanks for taking my call. When

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00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 7: the season ended, my first thought was edge thrusher, but

773
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 7: then I got convinced by the thought that it's an

774
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 7: arms race in an NFL, and then once sticks are traded,

775
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 7: then that definitely was they needed to arm up on

776
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 7: the offensive side. But then my thoughts were that actually

777
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 7: the way to do that might be to go for

778
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 7: one of the other trends I think is coming along

779
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 7: the positionless player and actually to go in trade up

780
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 7: to get Bowers, which would be a third tight end,

781
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 7: which would seem odd at first, but actually what I

782
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 7: think you could do is you would put the at

783
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 7: least two, maybe even three tight ends out on the field,

784
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 7: and then the defense has to make a decision about

785
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 7: how they're going to cover them if they try to

786
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 7: put out a budget you know, fast tats and things.

787
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 7: Because ken Kton go out wide, Bowers are two times

788
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 7: mac and Winner can go all over the phils as well.

789
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 7: Cox ski it all over the place. Then you actually

790
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 7: bring in the guys to block and you run like

791
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 7: Brady wants to. If they bring in big guys because

792
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 7: we've got so many tight ends, then you put those

793
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 7: guys out wide and then you run and throw passes.

794
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 7: So I'm really interested in seeing the Bills trade up

795
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 7: actually and get Bowers. So I think you get if

796
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 7: you go up to six or nine instead of the

797
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 7: prohibitive thing, going up to three to get a Harrison

798
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 7: or something like that might be an interesting approach.

799
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be a different philosophically, no question, And

800
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: I like where your head's at, where you say, you

801
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 2: get these guys out there who are six five two

802
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: thirty or two forty as tight ends or six five

803
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: two fifty if you're Dawson Knox, get these guys and

804
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: then they can split out and they can. The problem

805
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 2: is they got to win against the corner then, you know.

806
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that's but if a team, if you can

807
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 2: run the ball when whenever you want, effectively whenever you want,

808
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: even if they know it's coming, and be effective doing it,

809
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 2: that's always that's always a magic wand but it's easy

810
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: to say it's hard to do three tight ends or not.

811
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: And quite frankly, Brandon Bean thought outside the box last

812
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 1: year when the receiver class wasn't as strong. The run

813
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: on receivers happened right in front of him on the board,

814
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: and he pivoted and took the best pass catching tight

815
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: end in the draft in Dalton Kincaid last year. I

816
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: can't see him going that route again this year, especially

817
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: in a draft where the receiver class is as strong

818
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: as it's been in the last decade. So to me,

819
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: it points at receiver for obvious reasons, and I don't

820
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: think he's gonna overthink it.

821
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: Now, that thing about positionless football, if you apply that

822
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: to the receivers, then you're talking about somebody like xavierly

823
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: Get for one of the top three guys, like a Donza.

824
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Bowers is an a great athlete for the

825
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: tight end position, a great athlete, but he's a little short.

826
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: He's six ' three and I mean he runs like

827
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: a deer. Don't get me wrong, but I don't know

828
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: if he's full time receiver worthy or positionless quote unquote.

829
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: Right, or you know, you're talking about doing something something else,

830
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: like one of these others, the kid from from Georgia

831
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: so Wilson, yeah.

832
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Or Florida State Johnny Wilson. Is that what you're thinking of.

833
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: That's it. Florida State Johnny Wilson, big receiver who's six seven.

834
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: He's six seven, two hundred and fifty pounds and plays

835
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: wide receiver. So then you think, but I don't know

836
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: that he can move down and beat and block anybody

837
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: even if he is that dead. That's kind of what

838
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: you're talking about. Guys who are tweeters or the wrong

839
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 2: size at the right position.

840
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: I like the outside the box thinking. I just think

841
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: the receiver class too strong this year or too to

842
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: look any other.

843
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 2: Way, and it may come down if they have to pivot,

844
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: whether they like to or not, want to or not.

845
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: Got to take a break. Here, more of your phone calls,

846
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: John and Hamburg. IY roun a sale. We'll get to

847
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: you when we return here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned.

848
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: All right, here we be on One Bill's Live. Question

849
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: of the day for you. If the Bills do not

850
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: take a receiver in round one, what would satisfy you

851
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: in the draft. Maybe it's two receivers later, maybe it's

852
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: some other position in round one, but you let us know.

853
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: At eighto three oh five point fifty. Back to the

854
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: phones we go and to John in Hamburg. What's up? John?

855
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, I'm gonna make this quick move down in

856
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 8: the draft and take a Derek Henry running back, collect

857
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 8: draft picks and change the helmet to red because you're

858
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 8: not going to a super Bowl until you do.

859
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Go ahead, John.

860
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 8: No, that's it, that's all I want to say.

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00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, John, I don't know what the

862
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: helmet has to do with the draft plans, but okay,

863
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: move back. I don't know what you know that we don't.

864
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: But the red helmet is the is the magic elections.

865
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 2: I will say this, John, great idea. You're not gonna

866
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry is not in this draft. There is not

867
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: one single human being available in this year's NFL draft

868
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: there will be that could hold a candle to Derrick

869
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: Henry and what he's capable of. So you can't do that.

870
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: So there's no reason to trade back for a player

871
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: who doesn't exist. Secondly, the red helmet, I don't know.

872
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: As a guy who wore the red helmet, I loved it,

873
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: and I you know, you can obviously imagine my nostalgia

874
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: affection for that. But when I'm when I go to

875
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 2: the games, and I go to every home game obviously,

876
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: and I and I'm invested as any Bills fan in

877
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: the away games that I got to stay here and

878
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: I do the postgame stuff. I love the way the

879
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: white helmets look. I love the look.

880
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: I love the white on white white off of the

881
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: blue jersey, white helmets of the blue jersey.

882
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the white on white on the road with it.

883
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: They Justmtroopers looks.

884
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: They pop, man, I and I get it too. I

885
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 2: love the red helmets. And there's some there's some looks

886
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: that they could do with the red helmets that would

887
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: you know, do that too? But man, I I'm oh,

888
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: I'm good with the white helmets. Man, I think they

889
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: look great. And I'm a guy who wore the red one.

890
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: I love that too. And let's face it, dude, Josh

891
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: Allen's wearing it. I don't care what it looks like, right,

892
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: So you know, there's a little bit of that going on.

893
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: Because the team's good. This team could wear brown helmets

894
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: and they look good.

895
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: But and that's saying something.

896
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying I just yeah, I don't know about

897
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: the red helmet thing.

898
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: There is no running back in this draft that's gonna

899
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: be taken in round one. They had Bjon Robinson and

900
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs last year. They don't have players like that

901
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: in this year's draft at the running back position. I

902
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: think the first one will probably come off the board

903
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: somewhere in round two. Maybe it's the Robinson kid from

904
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: Texas who was b Jon Robinson's backup or no, I'm sorry,

905
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: I've got his name wrong. Now I'm gonna forget it.

906
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: But anyway, the kid from Texas probably the first running

907
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: back off the board. In round two, probably somewhere in

908
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: the middle there too late.

909
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks.

910
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: Jonathan Brooks, That's what I was thinking of. So, yeah,

911
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: trading down though, yeah, might not be as unrealistic as

912
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: some might think.

913
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: So we'll talk to Cynthia Freeland. That will talk to her,

914
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: and we'll see how how top heavy the draft is.

915
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: And you know, and I'm I'm a big fan of that,

916
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: and I know this too. We don't. It doesn't feel

917
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: like that because of the Steph Diggs trade, but I

918
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: feel like this is the roster even so, and even

919
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: your draft philosophy can't change. You just got to take

920
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: the best player. I think. I hope they do that,

921
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: and I hope the guy they get at the top

922
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: really can't just step on the field and let's let

923
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: us go. I'm here and play and contribute going forward

924
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: and be one of those ten year guys that people

925
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 2: grow to love and respect around you know, Bill's mafia.

926
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what position he's gonna play, but if

927
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: he can make a difference, we won't care.

928
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: Let's squeeze Ira on a sell in before the break. Here,

929
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: what do you got for us?

930
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 9: Iirah, Yeah, thank you for taking my call Brownie in Steve.

931
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 9: My thing is, I hope they pick the receiver, but

932
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 9: if they don't, I would go cornerback and who as

933
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 9: a receiver. I'll let you guys discuss. It would be

934
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 9: in the Eric Molds type. Mold, thank you for taking my.

935
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: A big physical specimen, the Tommy three guys. Yeah, it's

936
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: the top three guys. I don't think Brian Thomas would

937
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: qualify as physical even though he's tall, He's got more

938
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: of an angular frame. And then Ady Mitchell is kind

939
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: of in that same boat, tall angular player. So Eric

940
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: gets to the second round, like Yette is another guy

941
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: that could you know, be a big physical specimen like

942
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: Moles was.

943
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: Eric is the Eric Moles is the kind of guy

944
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: that you realize when you watch him play his whole career,

945
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: particularly here in Buffalo, as to how important it is

946
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: for a guy just where he gets picked. Eric Moles

947
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: was a Hall of Fame caliber player, absolutely Hall of

948
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: Fame caliber dynamite from from the day one, from day one.

949
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: He got drafted to a team in Buffalo at the

950
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: end of Jim's of Jim's career, it was after Jim actually.

951
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: Well, no, he played with Jim his last two years.

952
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: He was the ninety six draft.

953
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: Okay, he got Jim ninety six with Jim's last year. Yeah,

954
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: and so he got one year with Jim and it

955
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: was an error. With Marv Levy as head coach, they

956
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: didn't play rookies that much. So he got on the

957
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: field some and played some, and then you know, of

958
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: course the next year he started, uh started playing all

959
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: the time, as he should have. That guy. If Malik

960
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: Neighbors Marvin Harrison Junior, Roma Duneesa or any of these

961
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: guys have the kind of ability and attitude and smarts

962
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: and anything that all that stuff brought to the table,

963
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: and they're in the right spot, they're going to the

964
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: whole of thame because that's what that guy was. That

965
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: guy was a stud, even amongst a team full of them.

966
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: I have seen more than twenty five Bill's training camps,

967
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: both as a reporter and working for the team. I

968
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: have still to this day not seen a single player

969
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: dominate a training camp the way I saw Eric Moulds

970
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: dominate the nineteen ninety eight training camp at Fredonia. It

971
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: is unmatched. I don't know if it'll ever be topped.

972
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: Three touchdowns a day, Bomb's left Bomb's right, schooling people

973
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: making DB's look silly. It was a man amongst boys,

974
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: and I have not seen anything close to it since. Yeah,

975
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: it is somewhat of a shame that he never really

976
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: got more than a year with a really good quarterback.

977
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 1: Had bled so and O two put up a monster year,

978
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: did it with Flutie in ninety eight, you know, once

979
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: more in two thousand and two, And even with poor

980
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacking on the whole, he still finishes with almost ten

981
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: thousand yards in his career in an era where the

982
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: ball wasn't flying all over the yard yet.

983
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety five yards the guy's got and he earned

984
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: every one of them. Man, that guy who's a dude,

985
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 2: so you're good for you, I recall him and pulling

986
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: that name out. If there's a guy like that in there,

987
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: get him, trade up to get him.

988
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: Break time for us here, But when we come back,

989
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: our good friend from NFL network analytics expert, Cynthia Freeland

990
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: joins us as we discuss her best fit for the

991
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: Bills and the merits of trading up or trading down?

992
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: Is their merit to that? We'll find out next here

993
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo

994
00:52:49,440 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: Bills Rady. This one Bill's Live, presented by Callida Health.

995
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to our number two one Bills Live.

996
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here on a Wednesday,

997
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: and please to be joined now by our good friend

998
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: from NFL network analytics expert. And you also see her

999
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: on Bill's preseason television broadcasts as the sideline reporter with Steve.

1000
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: It's Cynthia Freeland. Cynthia, how is your off season going?

1001
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 10: It's going great. I mean I do though miss hearing

1002
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 10: you do the touchdown call. So I really would like

1003
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 10: to hear that. It's been too long. So if you

1004
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 10: just give me like a good like touchdown.

1005
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: Bills, please don't. I'm not a manufacturer of that that.

1006
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm more of the organic kind.

1007
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 10: But okay, fine, how about a happy birthday Steve.

1008
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 11: Yeah, I will accept birthday Steve. That's appropriate and acceptable.

1009
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: There we go.

1010
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: Listen, Cynthia. So we're thank you. And they got the

1011
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: balloons too. That's awesome. So we're sitting here, we're I know, Cynthia,

1012
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: you have a life, Brownie, and I do not. We

1013
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: are chewing the draft up all day every day. And

1014
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: we're trying to get inside the mind of Brandon Bean

1015
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: and Sean McDermott, and we've seen that and at twenty eight,

1016
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: it's always kind of a little bit of a dice

1017
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: roll as to who's going to be on the board.

1018
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts about the Bills picking twenty eight

1019
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 2: and how maybe likely it is that they actually make

1020
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: that pick or a different one.

1021
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's going to be a different one. I think

1022
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 10: that probably the needs are going to drive. I don't

1023
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 10: think it's going to be a massive move across the board,

1024
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 10: but we know they're not afraid to trade up for

1025
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 10: the guy that they like, so be it an outside

1026
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 10: receiver or potentially even a defensive piece. If you're looking

1027
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 10: kind of how the other teams are netting out, it

1028
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 10: looks like we're going to get a lot of offensive

1029
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 10: linemen tackle specifically, which is luckily not a need for

1030
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 10: the Bills, Which means there could be a trade partner

1031
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 10: that's looking to exploit, like potentially trading back up into

1032
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 10: the back end of the first half to give you

1033
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 10: a lot of extra equity. So there's ways where you

1034
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 10: could go up, down, sideways, all of these different ways

1035
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 10: and still get the person that they want, and we

1036
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 10: know the Brandon Bean's not afraid to do that and

1037
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 10: not afraid to kind of go there and get their

1038
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 10: specific guy wherever they think.

1039
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: He's going to land right, And we're thinking that if

1040
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: there is a move when you're picking at twenty eight,

1041
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: you kind of got to wait and see how things fall.

1042
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: This is not some preemptive move, you know, for example,

1043
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: like the Jets did years ago with the Colts when

1044
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: they went from six to three and took Donold. They

1045
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: did that move like a month before the draft.

1046
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: This is a This is very.

1047
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: Much a wait and see when you're picking a twenty eight,

1048
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: because you got to see to some degree what happens

1049
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: in front of you.

1050
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 10: I think the lucky part though, is many of the

1051
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 10: needs that the Bills have, Like even if you were

1052
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 10: let's just say corner for example, there aren't a ton

1053
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 10: of super needy corner teams ahead of the Bills. So

1054
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 10: while I know we're all talking about wide receivers, you

1055
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 10: do need to kind of look at how some of

1056
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 10: these other positions play out. This is a deeper wide

1057
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 10: receiver class too, yet again this year, maybe other positions

1058
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 10: aren't quite as deep. I don't actually believe there are

1059
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 10: as many top tier corners in this draft class as

1060
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 10: we've seen in a few others recently. So you know,

1061
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 10: it's really about navigating, like the kind of the trade

1062
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 10: off between your opportunity costs of where you'd be picking

1063
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 10: versus where the next pick would lands. So I mean,

1064
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 10: I think maybe nationally, at least kind of the narratives

1065
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 10: like oh no, what are they gonna do, stefonding, they

1066
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 10: must absolutely get a wide, respect, I don't actually think

1067
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 10: that's true. I believe Brandon when he says that we

1068
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 10: have a board, we're strong, we feel strong about where

1069
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 10: we've placed all these different people on this board, and

1070
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 10: we're gonna get the right fit for us.

1071
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: Yesterday I was telling Brownie, I think the over under.

1072
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: I think three positions are gonna maybe get almost twenty guys,

1073
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: like wide receiver five or six or maybe six or seven,

1074
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: offensive tackle, and the other one was quarterback in the

1075
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: first round. I don't know. I said twenty guys, but

1076
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's twenty names on the list

1077
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: that are gonna go in the first round. But that's

1078
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 2: gonna be I think those three positions they may get

1079
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: fifteen or sixteen of the picks.

1080
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 10: So for me, a couple of like turning points and

1081
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 10: hinge areas here that could really be great for the

1082
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 10: Bills in terms of how like, if I'm a Bills

1083
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 10: fan and I'm looking at what other teams to kind

1084
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 10: of like things to cheer for for other teams, like

1085
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 10: look for the Chargers to trade down. That would be

1086
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 10: a good indicator that potentially more quarterbacks are going right

1087
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 10: up at the top. Same thing with the Cardinals. You know,

1088
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 10: everyone's kind of just slotting the Ohio State corner wide

1089
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 10: receiver excuse me, Marvin Harrison junior to them, but they

1090
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 10: could trade down too, should there be a team that

1091
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 10: wants to come up to get their quarterbacks. So JJ

1092
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 10: McCarthy did himself a lot of favors, I think. Actually

1093
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 10: Jim Harbaugh also did JJ McCarthy a lot of favors

1094
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 10: with the combine by saying how wonderful he is to coach.

1095
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 10: So I'm looking at that and if I'm a Bills fan,

1096
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 10: I want both of those teams to trade down, which

1097
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 10: means there's going to be more quarterbacks taken, more wide

1098
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 10: receivers a little bit higher. But the tackle thing that

1099
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 10: could really be good for the Bills as well. So

1100
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 10: you want, like like these teams ahead of you, like

1101
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 10: you want Seattle to take some sort of lineman, because

1102
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 10: then that means like there'll be some other positions that,

1103
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 10: oh no, now I can go up and get my corner,

1104
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 10: et cetera. So I'm cheering for some trade movements. Like

1105
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 10: if I'm a Bills fan right now and I'm looking

1106
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 10: at what else to do, it's like I'm saying, Chargers,

1107
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 10: I hope you trade down because that means more quarterbacks,

1108
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 10: which means a better opportunity for us to get a

1109
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 10: top tier wide receiver at twenty something, not twenty eight necessarily.

1110
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: All right, So speaking of trading down, I want you

1111
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: to try to make the case for the Bills to

1112
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: move back if the value at receiver or whatever else

1113
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: is in right at twenty eight for them and they

1114
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: don't see any point in staying there and they haven't

1115
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: made a move up the board. Teams like Carolina and Houston,

1116
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: who each have a pair of second round picks, seem

1117
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: like trade partners that would make sense. But maybe state

1118
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: the case if you could, so we don't throw Bills

1119
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: fans into a veritable panic. That they're moving back when

1120
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: everybody expects them to move up.

1121
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 10: Well, let's look at the case of Carolina specifically, they

1122
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 10: paid so much money at the guard position, like money, money, money,

1123
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 10: that they still need kind of some help with their

1124
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 10: left tackle. Their right tackle is pretty like solid with

1125
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 10: Taylor Moten, but that tackle position could drive people to

1126
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 10: kind of come up and at twenty eight be like,

1127
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 10: I will give you my second round pick and some

1128
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 10: equity maybe as a later round pick to trade down,

1129
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 10: so that one specifically, if there is this run on tackles,

1130
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 10: that could be a really helpful pick for the Bills

1131
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 10: to trade down. The reason to trade down. And then Houston,

1132
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 10: I mean they kind of it's interesting because they're making

1133
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 10: some really strong moves this offseason. We've seen them kind

1134
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 10: of go all in and really leverage the fact that

1135
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 10: they have this rookie, you know, defensive end and quarterback.

1136
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 10: People forget about Will Anderson. That's an expensive position that

1137
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 10: they're not paying for as well. If they're looking at

1138
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 10: a defensive tackle, for example, this is not a very

1139
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 10: again this year, not a very deep defensive tackle like class,

1140
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 10: and it's certainly not a great safety class. That could

1141
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 10: be something that they look at as well, like the safety,

1142
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 10: the value at those positions. It's weird you're seeing the

1143
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 10: market dictate it for paying veteran safety. So that could

1144
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 10: be something interesting as well if they have some sort

1145
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 10: of defense strategic plan there as well. So I don't

1146
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 10: think moving down is bad at all. Or you could

1147
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 10: even look at someone like who wants to like if

1148
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 10: the Rams probably do like brock Bowers, that really fits

1149
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 10: what they're trying to do. Obviously, the Bills don't need

1150
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 10: a tight end. If you wanted to kind of look

1151
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 10: in that area, maybe someone's like thinking they could kind

1152
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 10: of outmaneuver the Rams who never pick in the first round,

1153
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 10: to kind of get up near it, like if they

1154
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 10: don't take them like, oh no, we got a rush

1155
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 10: and take brock Bauer. So that could be an area

1156
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 10: as well where a tight end needy team would look

1157
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 10: to the Bills because the Bills clearly don't need that position.

1158
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: And one of the things too is what's the give

1159
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: me a range here is we're looking at this draft,

1160
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: So the Bills are at twenty eight and you get

1161
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: up into like the I'm looking at twenty two, twenty three,

1162
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: twenty four Philly Minnesota Dallas NFC teams, if say Brian

1163
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: Thomas Junior somehow, some way is getting close to that

1164
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: right the how far? I mean, we had scenarios where

1165
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 2: the Bills get almost get up to Cincinnati in LA

1166
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: at eighteen nineteen if they do the right stuff. But

1167
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: what's the range of places where the Bills could jump

1168
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: up to realistically if Brian Thomas slips maybe a quarter

1169
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: of a round.

1170
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 10: I think that is a very real, realistic range. So

1171
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 10: the way that you know, if you want to, like,

1172
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 10: if you want to go like on do an internet

1173
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 10: search for you know, the Jimmy Johnson trade chart if

1174
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 10: you're looking it actually does still kind of hold like

1175
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 10: every year everyone's like, no one uses that anymore. And

1176
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 10: then you go back and you kind of value all

1177
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 10: the trades. You're like, actually they kind of do. And

1178
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 10: the way that breaks down is that the first like

1179
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 10: five picks are a pretty big you give up a

1180
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 10: pretty big haul, and then they start to compress. You

1181
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 10: don't have to give up as much to trade up

1182
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 10: in these latter portions. You could trade with someone like

1183
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 10: the Ramps. You could trade with someone like the Bengals.

1184
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 10: Now will the Bengals do that I don't know, because

1185
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 10: you know, Bengals and Bills, like, it's more likely to

1186
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 10: trade with an NFC partner because you know, the Bengals

1187
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 10: are like, well, who do they want because we play

1188
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 10: them a lot and blah blah blah blah blah. You know,

1189
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 10: we don't want Josh Allen get any good weapons play

1190
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 10: against us, So that could be more of a concern

1191
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 10: than It's more of the the you know, the the

1192
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 10: showmanship at that point than it is the It's like,

1193
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 10: look for an NFC partner like the Rams, that could

1194
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 10: be a good one, maybe even the Lions, something like

1195
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 10: that where you're getting you know, you don't have to

1196
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 10: move up that much. But if Brian Thomas starts to

1197
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 10: beat it, please go, please go get it, please go

1198
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 10: get it here, he'd be a great.

1199
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: Fit, right because I know you recently did your best

1200
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: NFL draft fits. Was he your fit for the Bills?

1201
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 10: Yeah? Because remember Josh throws the ball really hard. Seven

1202
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 10: of the last ten hardest in game throws last year

1203
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 10: and eight of the ten in the year prior, the

1204
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 10: fastest so highest velocity, highest miles per hour in a

1205
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 10: game throws. We're all Josh Allen we know this. You

1206
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 10: can see it, like I don't even want to try

1207
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 10: to catch a ball for him. I would like break

1208
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 10: my little tiny hands. So ultimately you don't want that situation.

1209
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 10: You've got to get a guy who has shown that

1210
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 10: in game footage he's able to catch a zippy ball

1211
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 10: like that, something with some heat on it. So Brian,

1212
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 10: it just lessens the kind of the trajectory of how

1213
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 10: you adapt to the NFL level, and Brian Thomas Junior

1214
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 10: has that obviously. You know there's some guys who at

1215
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 10: Troy Franklin also does project for that. Well, he caught

1216
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 10: some really and and maybe that's a good pick a

1217
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 10: little bit later, someone who's available if they were to

1218
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 10: trade down. But I think you want a big kind

1219
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 10: of outside presence sky and for me right now, the

1220
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 10: best fit would be Brian tom Drew. But but don't

1221
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 10: be mad if you get Troy Franklin. That little duck

1222
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 10: is good too.

1223
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 2: Right, And that's that's the knock on him.

1224
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 10: He feel like I'm an old lady now, so I

1225
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 10: can say that little guy.

1226
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: You know, he's a skinny duck though, right.

1227
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 10: He's a skinny duck.

1228
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: Yep.

1229
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, Well, okay, what do you that's his only knock.

1230
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: The guy weighs one hundred and six, Well, yeah.

1231
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: He's a rail.

1232
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: You're right.

1233
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: You mentioned how you think the top of the draft

1234
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: could help push some talent down to Buffalo in round one.

1235
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: Where could you see maybe the best depth position wise

1236
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: on day two, Cynthia, I.

1237
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 10: Think there's gonna be I think this is gonna be

1238
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 10: the sneaky spot where those you know, I think we

1239
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 10: all we talk about things like like you think about

1240
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 10: wide receiver ones, wide receiver twos are actually pretty valuable too,

1241
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 10: And I think people aren't giving enough credit to like

1242
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 10: the Bills. Curtis Samuel is a good pick. Like people

1243
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 10: people think like, oh no, there's no Stefon Digs, like

1244
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 10: it's going to be everything. No, like, at least nationally,

1245
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 10: That's kind of been some of the narratives people have

1246
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 10: asked me about. And I'm I'm like, I don't this

1247
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 10: is Josh Allen's legacy here for sure, like because we'll

1248
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 10: see what happens without Stefan Diggs there. But I'm not

1249
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 10: that worried. You have to remember Dalton Kincaid, like he

1250
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 10: wasn't even healthy for the entire time. He's been there

1251
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 10: with him, so it's it's it's kind of one of

1252
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 10: those in Dawson Knox obviously, so I'm curious to see

1253
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 10: how the slot looks. I mean, Steve, obviously you can

1254
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 10: tell me what you think about it. But I think

1255
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 10: that's gonna be a value in the second round. I

1256
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 10: also think a lot of these corners will get pushed

1257
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 10: down there, like Cooper dejen could be there in the

1258
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 10: second round. And because he had some interesting you know,

1259
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 10: some anyone anytime there's an injury, it always makes a

1260
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 10: question mark. And he doesn't have an injury that you know,

1261
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 10: obviously is a one that's a long term concern. It is,

1262
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 10: it is a concern, But I think that he could

1263
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 10: fall in the second round and that could be a

1264
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 10: masterful swoop up for the Bills.

1265
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: And we always, as always, the quarterbacks kind of dominate

1266
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: the top of the draft, and everybody's got their own words.

1267
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams has been there for air. But it happens

1268
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: so every time, the closer they get to the draft,

1269
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: the more people try and talk you out of Caleb Williams. Right,

1270
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: I mean, now it's like I don't know, Drake May's

1271
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 2: pretty good or you know Jalen, You know all.

1272
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: We were all surprised when they took Baker Mayfield one

1273
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, Right.

1274
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 2: So it all they all get talked up and down

1275
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: and up and down, and now you're talking about there's

1276
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,439
Speaker 2: going to be four guys go one, two, three, four,

1277
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 2: all of that stuff. What are your thoughts about the

1278
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: quarterbacks as we get into the white hot intensity of

1279
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 2: draft night. Are people going to talk themselves out of

1280
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: this or and who are they going to talk themselves into?

1281
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 10: I think like, look, like this time last year, the

1282
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 10: narrative on CJ. Stroud was that like he didn't he

1283
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 10: was like, didn't do well on some aptitude test. Remember that.

1284
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 10: I think everyone's now like, huh, that's ridiculous. But I

1285
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Speaker 10: think the thing we did learn from CJ. Stroud is

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01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 10: that surrounding a player, not just on the field with weapons,

1287
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 10: but on like the how they learn. Right, Like, you

1288
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 10: got Jarrad Johnson, their former quarterback himself, who was helping

1289
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 10: him learn the quarterback position. You had Bobby Slowick, who

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Speaker 10: created a system that worked for him. You had a

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01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 10: former player as a coach. So to me, the fit

1292
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 10: really depends on what you're going to surround the team

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01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 10: with and and Caleb Williams will be the number. I mean,

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Speaker 10: I can't see it going any other way. Like this

1295
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 10: is the strongest I felt about someone. It just feels

1296
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 10: like given all of these weird maneuvers, but it doesn't

1297
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 10: necessarily mean he's who I think is the best fit,

1298
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 10: like the guy that's gonna be poised for the most success. Sure,

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01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 10: the Bears have a night. They did a really good job.

1300
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 10: Their defense got better and healthier last year. They got

1301
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 10: Monteste sweat people, forget about that, and then they made

1302
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 10: all these great offseason moves to really kind of solidify

1303
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 10: all of these great picks for this quarterback to work with.

1304
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 10: But they didn't fix their own line necessarily yet, Like

1305
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 10: they haven't addressed that, And to me, that's massive, Like

1306
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 10: you need a good You need to put a player

1307
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 10: in a position where they're not under pressure the second

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01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 10: most often of any quarterback, and by the way, the

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01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 10: first was Bryce Young last year, so it was Bryce

1310
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,879
Speaker 10: Young than justin fields Like, you still got to fix that. Otherwise,

1311
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 10: it doesn't matter how many amazing receivers you put out there,

1312
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 10: he's not gonna have time to get the ball to

1313
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 10: any of them, So it's really about surrounding someone with

1314
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 10: a bunch of and I like Shane Waldron, who obviously

1315
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 10: the new OC that came from from Seattle. I think

1316
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 10: that's great. But to me, until you address the line,

1317
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 10: you still got a lot of questions for any quarterback

1318
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 10: that comes in, be the Caleb Williams or I actually

1319
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 10: think Jayden Daniels is probably the most set up for

1320
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 10: success early, just because he's a good off platform thrower,

1321
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 10: which you know, Josh Allen has helped make a really

1322
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 10: important part of the modern game. So you know, we'll see,

1323
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 10: we'll see how it all goes, but O line, to

1324
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 10: me is very important.

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Speaker 1: Cynthia, Thanks as always. We're just two weeks away from

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01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: the draft. We'll keep an eye out for more of

1327
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: your coverage on NFL Network. Thanks as always, We catch

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01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: up with you later in the off season.

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Speaker 10: I miss you, guys. I Buffalo. This is about to

1330
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 10: be my fas Like you know, I love summer in Buffalo,

1331
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 10: but I also like a good spring moment there too,

1332
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 10: and everything's popping up, perfect time for a birthday for Tasker,

1333
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 10: you know, new flowers birds.

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01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, give it another month before we show up because

1335
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: we're a little bit up and down right now with

1336
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 2: the weather, so yeah, thanks, I'll hold up.

1337
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 10: But you know we still got a birthday celebration.

1338
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: You want to see you next, Thank thanks, thank you.

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01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: All right. Always good to catch up with Cynthia, and

1340
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: we'll get back to our topic of discussion. But it's

1341
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:04,480
Speaker 1: interesting that move back in round one shouldn't be outright dismissed.

1342
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: I think, depending how the board falls and what's left

1343
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: as he gets closer to their pick of twenty eight,

1344
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: and Brandon decides whether to make a move up or

1345
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: not if a move up is not prudent, or he

1346
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: can't find a trade partner, staying put in picking, or

1347
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: even sliding back, I think, or options. You know, he's

1348
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: still sore about not getting that third round compensatory. I think,

1349
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: by hook or by crook, he wants to get his

1350
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: hands on a third round pick somehow, whether he's using

1351
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: his two fours to get up there, or whether he's

1352
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: moving back from one to add a third and move

1353
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: back to round two, so he's got two twos in

1354
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: a three rather than just a one in a two.

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01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think after we talking about it today

1356
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: and taking a deep breath, I'm still on the best

1357
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: player available train. I like wide receiver. I just don't

1358
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:02,839
Speaker 2: think it's gonna work at twenty Now, if twenty eight changes,

1359
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 2: you know that number change is to be smaller or

1360
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: whatever than Okay, I'm fine, But twenty eight or sixty

1361
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 2: is are going to be a wide out or they're

1362
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: going to be traded in to get and get one.

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01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm kind of with you. I they're going

1364
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: to come out of this draft with two wide outs

1365
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 2: and where they get him is going to say a lot.

1366
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 2: But about the expectations Bills fans have anyway, But I

1367
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 2: still think it's a best player available scenario. I just

1368
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: think how hard are they going to work to make

1369
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 2: sure that the best player is going to be a

1370
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 2: wide receiver?

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01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: Right? I mean you're talking about the whole best player

1372
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: thing for the last hour, and I get it. I mean,

1373
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean has if there's one thing he has been

1374
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: consistent with, it's drafting players of elite physical traits. Ed

1375
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: Oliver might be the only exception, you know, not being

1376
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 1: of an elite height or weight for the position that

1377
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: he plays. Everybody else elite physical traits without question. In

1378
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: Round one. That's kind of what they focus on more

1379
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,839
Speaker 1: than anything else than you should. I mean, that's where

1380
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: that's where the biggest physical specimens usually come off the

1381
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: board in round one, and he has not made an

1382
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: exception to that really all that much in his six

1383
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: drafts that he's overseen. Here for the Bills, let's crack

1384
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: open the tweet sheet, which is brought to you by

1385
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 1: Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the

1386
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. If not a wide receiver in round one,

1387
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: what will satisfy you with a Bills draft? Andrew says,

1388
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: I want that center from Oregon Jackson powers Johnson. He

1389
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: would make a great addision to that offensive line. Certainly

1390
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: not sexy, but I understand it with the salary, cap

1391
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: casualty that Mitch Morse was who is now in Jacksonville.

1392
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 1: Rob on the tweet sheet says, a trade for an

1393
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: established number one one wide receiver Brandon Ayuk is my preference.

1394
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: Now you have to get a lot more creative if

1395
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:10,520
Speaker 1: that's the route you choose to travel, because upon trade,

1396
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find a way to have a

1397
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: contract extension in place for him to sign. So your

1398
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: cap compliant number one and that's gonna take a lot

1399
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: of money and you're gonna have to push a lot

1400
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: of it to year two in twenty twenty five to

1401
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: fit him under this year.

1402
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: Think about it. Yeah, unless you get a deal where

1403
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 2: think about this. If the Bill's traded for au and

1404
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 2: Ayuk is twenty six years old, twenty six, what's his

1405
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: contracts test now?

1406
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: Is he's in his franchise or is in his fifth

1407
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: year option coming up?

1408
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: You take, you trade for Ayuk And the only way

1409
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 2: Ayuk comes in and really balls out for you is

1410
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 2: because you say, Okay, we're not gonna sign you to

1411
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 2: an extension.

1412
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: Well, they can't fit a twenty three million dollar contract

1413
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 1: under their camp right now. They have to do something, so.

1414
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: Have to Okay, you can't live with You're right.

1415
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: See that's the that's the fly in the inking, stinking.

1416
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: Economic makes Uh. Yeah. I was gonna say trade for

1417
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 2: him and then just say, hey, we'll make you an

1418
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 2: free agent at the end of the year. You can leave,

1419
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: let's rent him for a year. But you're right. If

1420
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 2: he's if he's on his friend his twenty three million

1421
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 2: dollar first round.

1422
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: Draft task round.

1423
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: Option option year, he gets that money no matter what

1424
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 2: it's guaranteed, and that's yeah, he ain't going anywhere.

1425
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: And Brandon's not parting with a first round pick for

1426
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: he may have a guy for a year.

1427
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: He may show up twelve months from now.

1428
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: It's possible, you know, yeah, but not this year. Rob

1429
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: on the or sorry William on the tweet, he says,

1430
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: move up from sixty to something in the thirties and

1431
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: draft one. There a cocky look at Franklin should still

1432
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: be there.

1433
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this too. We this Troy Franklin's you've heard,

1434
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 2: you know, Cynthia Freedlan. The guy's like weighs a like

1435
01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: a leaf of paper.

1436
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: Seventy six.

1437
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's got that issue.

1438
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 1: But that then, like DeVante Smith.

1439
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you he might get pushed around a little bit.

1440
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 2: But we tend to make these guys make a freckle

1441
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 2: into a ward with these problems, make us make every

1442
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: little flaw tends to be magnified. And that's gonna magnify

1443
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: itself in his play and he's gonna be like totally ineffective.

1444
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 2: If you draft one of these guys, they're all gonna

1445
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: they're all gonna have their moments in the league from

1446
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 2: Legette to Franklin to mconkey. All these guys are gonna

1447
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 2: be able to give you something.

1448
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: Well, that's why personnel executives always tell their scouts, tell

1449
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: me what they can do.

1450
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 2: That's right.

1451
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about what they can't do.

1452
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 2: That's what That's what Joe Brady's doing right now. What

1453
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 2: can the kid do? What am I gonna have? Am

1454
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 2: I gonna be limited in what I can call? If

1455
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 2: he's on the field, that kind of stuff? What can

1456
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,440
Speaker 2: I do to make it so he's gonna be successful?

1457
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 2: That's the offensive coordinator's job. All of these guys are

1458
01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 2: gonna be able to play, But are they gonna be

1459
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 2: able to play up to number like some thirty somethings.

1460
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 2: Are they gonna be able to play up to the

1461
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: thirty third or thirty fifth or thirty eighth pick in

1462
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 2: the draft? Maybe? Maybe not. That's a big number. That's

1463
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: a small number in the draft. So twenty eight, you

1464
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: at those numbers, the twenty eighth pick through the thirty

1465
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 2: ninth pick, you gotta get a guy that's gonna be

1466
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 2: around for a minute and contribute, and people are gonna

1467
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, Okay, got that guy. All of these

1468
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 2: guys will do it for one player here, one play there.

1469
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: Who's gonna do it every play? That's why you don't know.

1470
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 2: And the further down the bigger that number gets next

1471
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 2: to his name when the draft pick, the harder it

1472
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 2: is to convince yourself he's gonna be that guy. I mean,

1473
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 2: that's what this whole thing is. That's what this whole

1474
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: shooting match is about. Picking a guy that lives up

1475
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: to the twenty eighth pick of the draft or the

1476
01:16:55,479 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 2: nineteenth pick of the draft. It's not easy, not easy

1477
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: because it's a high bar to clear. And that's why

1478
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: you know you got to You got to know what

1479
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: it takes to play all twenty two positions on your

1480
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 2: starting defense, starting offense combined. And the guy who can

1481
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 2: play one of those positions better than anybody else can

1482
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 2: play the position they're at. If he's on your board,

1483
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 2: that's who you take. Unfortunately, he might have six of

1484
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 2: them already.

1485
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: And then if you have another position with comparable value,

1486
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: you go that way. Yeah, break time for us here,

1487
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: But if you are holding an eight oh three oh

1488
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: five fifty, stay where you are. We'll lead off with

1489
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: John North of the Border in Canada. When we return

1490
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live presented by Colt of Health,

1491
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. If the Bills do not take

1492
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: a receiver in round one, what would satisfy you for

1493
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: the Bills draft ato three oh five fifty open lines

1494
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: for you. Back to the phones we go and to

1495
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: John in Canada, as promised. What's up John, Hi, guys.

1496
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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking my call. I was just thinking about

1497
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 4: something that I love the fact that Brandon Bean thinks

1498
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 4: outside the box and we're surprised by a lot of

1499
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 4: his moves. And one thing that I keep on hearing

1500
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 4: is Brandon I you can t Higgins, but I was

1501
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 4: looking at teams that maybe he's looking elsewhere. And what

1502
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 4: do you think about DK Metcalf twenty six years of age,

1503
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 4: thirteen million dollars next year, last year of his contract

1504
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 4: six four, two thirty five. There's your your wide receiver one,

1505
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 4: and then it gives you some flexibility about looking at

1506
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 4: twenty eight maybe being a defensive tackle instead of a

1507
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 4: wide receiver. I think it'd be a good fit for Josh,

1508
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 4: and he's a big, big guy. In the cold Buffalo weather,

1509
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 4: people don't want to tackle a guy outsize. So what

1510
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 4: do you think.

1511
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: I don't think they can fit the money. That's that's

1512
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: the problem. They're about three to four million under the

1513
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: cap right now. John. They'll get another ten million come

1514
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: June first, but they're going to need that to sign

1515
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: their rookie draft class. They can't take honest salary like

1516
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: thirteen million in base.

1517
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, DK gets thirteen this year to his base.

1518
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,480
Speaker 1: We're off the hook for signing bonus signings.

1519
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 2: They're off the hook. That'd be it. It'd be thirteen

1520
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 2: million dollars. Listen, think about this. Thirteen million. That's going

1521
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: to be what they pay their entire rookie class this year,

1522
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: ten draft picks. If they pick them all the rookies,

1523
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: the rookie pool is like eleven point something million. And

1524
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 2: so that's why it's imperative to get guys who can contribute,

1525
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: because it's easier to outperform those contracts than it is

1526
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: for DK metcalf to give you thirteen million dollars a production. Now,

1527
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: thirteen million for a one number one receiver. Yeah, it's

1528
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 2: cheap by today's standards, but he's still got to go

1529
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 2: out and do it and fit him under your cap

1530
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 2: eleven million for ten players, thirteen million for one and

1531
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 2: you still got to draft those ten guys. So it's

1532
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 2: a hard it's a hard number to get your mind around.

1533
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 2: I get it, Dk Metcalf might be available even uh.

1534
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 2: And if you could do it for like a player,

1535
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 2: like like for somebody.

1536
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,799
Speaker 1: Like dollars out for dollars in, right, it's.

1537
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: Got to be dollars out for dollars in. So you're

1538
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 2: talking about a guy for for the Buffalo Bills that

1539
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: you would have to get, you know, put on the block.

1540
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 2: And I'm just going to like Dawson Knox would be

1541
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: it'd be nine million to his thirteen million, or Taron

1542
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 2: Johnson somebody like that, and that's below that. That's that's

1543
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: all you're gonna get. You're not gonna You're not gonna

1544
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 2: do Josh von Miller won't do it, ed Dion Tarn,

1545
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 2: Dawson Knox, Matt Mulano would be a comparable contract. So

1546
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 2: if you get player for player, Yeah, but you're talking

1547
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 2: about these I mean we've already kicked to the curb,

1548
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, I mean Mitch Morris, you know, Bates, Tyrell Dodson,

1549
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 2: you know, Poona Ford, Surefield, Gabe Davis, Steph Diggs. All

1550
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 2: those guys are out the door at Hiding Poyer two.

1551
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 2: So all those names have already left. So you're talking

1552
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 2: about getting rid of a guy like Milano, Knox, Tarren

1553
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 2: Johnson or somebody like that, and then one for one trade.

1554
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 2: If you could get Seattle to even consider it's it's

1555
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 2: hard to do now. That would be just player for player,

1556
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: and then you have still have all your draft picks

1557
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 2: and all of that. Or you could throw in a

1558
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 2: five or six, or they'd throw in a five or

1559
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: six for you because you're giving up a money position.

1560
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: They're giving up a linebacker or a nickel corner or

1561
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: a tight end for the Bills. I'm talking about those

1562
01:21:55,720 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: levels of contract. So you know, think long and hard

1563
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 2: about it. If you get them to say yes, okay,

1564
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 2: then you got to think you want Dk Metcalf a

1565
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: guy you don't know, or do you want to keep

1566
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 2: a guy like like Ed Oliver, Tarren Johnson, Dawson, Knox,

1567
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 2: Matt Mulano, somebody you love and respect and him you've

1568
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: invested in. It's a hard it's a hard move to

1569
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 2: make even for a fan, let alone you know a

1570
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 2: GM who's trying to stay dispassionate.

1571
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 1: Edley on the tweetsheets says, if Murphy and Latu fell,

1572
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: I'd be good with them at picks at pick twenty eight.

1573
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: This is under the auspices of if the Bills do

1574
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: not take a receiver in round one, what would satisfy you?

1575
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: He said, I'd be good with that. But that's really

1576
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: the only two guys who are non wide receivers that

1577
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 1: make sense good draft. But there's a ton of players

1578
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: that don't have first round grades at twenty eight. To me,

1579
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: it's either one of those two or a wide receiver

1580
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 1: or trade back, maybe Cooper Dejean eh right, you can

1581
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 1: get Edie Edlely is easily disappointed.

1582
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 2: And Murphy, which Murphy is he talking about?

1583
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,839
Speaker 1: He's talking about Byron Murphy, the defensive tackle from Texas

1584
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: who I think is going to be a top twenty pick.

1585
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be there for the

1586
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:10,520
Speaker 1: Bills at twenty eight.

1587
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure.

1588
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: Sewn on the tweets sheet says, one or two injuries

1589
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: to the defense and they can't stop a running nose.

1590
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,839
Speaker 1: Improve the depth all over the roster, guys like Hamlin,

1591
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: JaMarcus Ingram, Baylen Spector need to be upgraded, so he

1592
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: wants depth if they're not taking a receiver one move

1593
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 1: back at some depth pieces, Yeah, I mean I respect

1594
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: all that. Like I said, they have fortified the depth

1595
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: on the defensive front by adding Austin Johnson, who was

1596
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: a starter for the Chargers. I mean he's coming in here,

1597
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: he's probably not going to start for the Bills at

1598
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. He's behind Ed Oliver and da Quon Jonks.

1599
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: And then they also added to Shaun Williams and Casey

1600
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: two Hill, who I think is an underrated you know

1601
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: set the edge end who also offers you a little.

1602
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: And you're right now, it's not just for me. It's

1603
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: not just layout to La Tou the edge guy from

1604
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 2: Ucla or Byron Murphy the defensive tackle from Texas. If

1605
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: any of those guys like Troy Fontino, j C. Latham,

1606
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: Jared Verse, there's any of these guys fall down, you know,

1607
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,879
Speaker 2: snatch them because they're all up in the top twenties

1608
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 2: as players. The big here's the thing, the big you know,

1609
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,560
Speaker 2: these big board places where they've ranked, and this is

1610
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 2: where it gets all gray. There's not black and white

1611
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 2: ever in these things. Certainly everybody's got, you know, Caleb Williams,

1612
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison junior, or you've got Marvin Harrison junior Caleb Williams,

1613
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 2: or you've got you know whatever. They got these names

1614
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 2: picked at a different position, But it's a it's an estimate.

1615
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 2: The big board is every player and who's gonna have

1616
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 2: the best career out of all the guys in this

1617
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 2: draft class, who's gonna to be All Pro the most,

1618
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: who's going to go to the most Pro Bowls? Who's

1619
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 2: going to be the most important player on their team,

1620
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 2: whatever position they are, And it turns into a big

1621
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,839
Speaker 2: gray area because it's hard to it's hard to compare

1622
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, quarterback at USC to Dallas Turner, an edge

1623
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: rusher out of Alabama.

1624
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: Who's going to be a top fifteen pick.

1625
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 2: They're both going to be. Yes, Caleb Williams top pick

1626
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 2: of the draft on this big board, Dallas turns number

1627
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 2: seven overall.

1628
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: He's probably a top ten He's probably going to the

1629
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: Falcons a right.

1630
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 2: But that's the issue. So that's why, with a straight face,

1631
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 2: every gem in the league is going to walk out

1632
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 2: on the day after they drafted these guys and say

1633
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 2: we got the exactly the guy. We love him. We

1634
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 2: love him stood out on our board. We had him

1635
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: way high on our board.

1636
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 1: Rich on the tweets, she says, the only way he'll

1637
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: be satisfied if the Bills don't take a receiver in

1638
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 1: round one is by trading back to the early second

1639
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: round and grabbing two wideceivers back to back.

1640
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: Okay, double up.

1641
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 1: Two receivers back to back in round two. How about that.

1642
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 2: Let me just find the train horn. That's what we really.

1643
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: Well, you're finding the train horn, mighty mouths. On the tweets,

1644
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 1: she says, nothing unless they trade out of round one

1645
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: for more picks and can somehow still get a top

1646
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver like Leaguette in round two and another top

1647
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: wide receiver with the extra round two pick they get

1648
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: for trading back.

1649
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 2: Nope, everybody's you know.

1650
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: Your your speaker's on the bottom of your phone train

1651
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 1: it's a train horn.

1652
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's it, the train horn. Everybody's on the

1653
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 2: one receiver. Double up.

1654
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: Patrick on the tweet sheet says, I will not be

1655
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: satisfied if they do not take a receiver in round one.

1656
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,759
Speaker 1: This position has been avoided in the draft for too long.

1657
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 1: Just get on with it already draft one around.

1658
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 2: Well, see there's Patrick, and then there's everybody else saying,

1659
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: remember Sammy Watkins, Well right, let's yeah. Do we get

1660
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 2: the entire.

1661
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: Both sides of the coin.

1662
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: We're so fortunate it's gonna be Sammy. We did that

1663
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 2: was Sammy Watkins. It never works.

1664
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: We're fortunate, so fortunate here one Bill's live. You get

1665
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:17,799
Speaker 1: the cornicopia of opinion.

1666
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 2: We love them all too, baby, just call us. That's fine,

1667
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 2: We're we will entertain any theory.

1668
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: Patrick brings up a valid point. I mean, they have

1669
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:31,680
Speaker 1: not drafted a receiver in round one in the Bean mcdermody, what.

1670
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 2: Are your what are your opinions? Then? About the Kansas

1671
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: City Chiefs getting rid of the highest paid wide receiver

1672
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 2: in the National Football League, an absolute game wreckord of

1673
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 2: a wide receiver in Tyreek Hill, and then the next

1674
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 2: year going and winning the Super Bowl without him? How

1675
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 2: does that work?

1676
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 12: Malmes is pretty good, so's Josh Yeah, so's Joe Burrow,

1677
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 12: Lamar justin Herbert Malmes might be in a class by himself.

1678
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 12: He might be might be, But you know, what are

1679
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 12: you gonna do?

1680
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 2: Though? I mean that that's just as likely, if not

1681
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: more likely than Sammy Watkins happening again or getting a

1682
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 2: guy that's gonna put the Bills over the top. Yet

1683
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: Steph Diggs and he was that guy was the dude.

1684
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: I get it.

1685
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I know Steph has baggage and stuff he

1686
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 2: cares abut, but the guy was on the field. The

1687
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 2: guy was money except for that last catch in Kansas

1688
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 2: City or here, but that's the way it is, you know,

1689
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 2: I mean that against Kansas City. Yeah, none of this

1690
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,799
Speaker 2: is a you know, none of this is inexact science

1691
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 2: chiseled in.

1692
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: Granted, we we are up against the break here, But

1693
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,759
Speaker 1: Steve and I with some final thoughts from the tweetee

1694
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:41,480
Speaker 1: when we return here on one Bill's.

1695
01:28:41,160 --> 01:29:00,560
Speaker 13: Life thoughts on the sweetsheet.

1696
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: Here, as we ask you, what would satisfy you in

1697
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 1: the draft if the Bills don't take a wide receiver

1698
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: in round one? David says, call me crazy, but Cooper

1699
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: dejen it's not a pressing need. But wouldn't it be

1700
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: fantastic to have a corner that high a caliber and

1701
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: convert him to safety. Poorer and high type levels could

1702
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: be his floor there? But also, wide receiver? Are we

1703
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: riot not really? Jack? Meanwhile, on the tweet sheet says

1704
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: not a darn thing. It's wide receiver or bust. If

1705
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: they hadn't traded digs, I'd feel different. But I don't

1706
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 1: want to waste a year of seventeen's prime and not

1707
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 1: add a wide receiver. That would be a mistake. That said,

1708
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: if they trade for a Beast wide receiver, I'd amend

1709
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: my thinking. And if they select Chop Maban, I quit.

1710
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Happy b Day number eighty nine. Gotta give it. I

1711
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: think we struck a nerve today with the question. Yes see,

1712
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: I think sweed sheets were all timers.

1713
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 2: Today, were passionate. Thanks for the happy birthday wishes. Chop

1714
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 2: Mayban is an all timer too.

1715
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 1: So that is an all timer.

1716
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 6: Wow.

1717
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 1: We will see you tomorrow at one. More draft talk

1718
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: for you, sh