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Speaker 1: What's happened everybody. Happy President's Day to you out there,

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Speaker 1: all of you Bushes and Clinton's and Reagan's and I

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Speaker 1: don't know if there are a lot of Trumps that

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Speaker 1: an extra special birthday because it's your birthday. Happy President's

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Speaker 1: Day to everyone. Hopefully you had a day to spend

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Speaker 1: at home with the family. Mark and I get to work.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into Texas All Access, John Harris alongside the Voice

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Speaker 1: of the Texans, Mark Van Ruer. Mark, I see a

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Speaker 1: smile on your face. We didn't really work, but we

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Speaker 1: are actually ran it too. I went to Randalls and

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Speaker 1: out here in my new abode, and I went into

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Speaker 1: Randalls and I saw my guy Jacob, and Jacob was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you got the day off. I'm like, oh, contreer, my freyer.

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Speaker 1: I will be doing radio alongside the voice of the Texans,

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Speaker 1: Mark vanmir So that's what we're doing right now. Welcome in, Mark,

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Speaker 1: How you doing.

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Speaker 2: It's always fun, Johnny.

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Speaker 3: And the way you began the show with naming presidents,

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Speaker 3: I thought, what are we talking about tonight? My goodness,

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Speaker 3: my goodness, what are we going to discuss?

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Speaker 2: Let's talk politics tonight. I'm Texas. No, no, let me

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 1: Just mention the fact that there are people named after

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Speaker 1: a lot of presidents, the adams Is and the Jeffersons

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Speaker 1: of the world.

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Speaker 2: You know, one point about President's Day.

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Speaker 3: We keep saying the super Bowl should be played the

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Speaker 3: Sunday before President's Day, so it's a national.

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Speaker 2: Holiday the day after, you know, for a lot of people,

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Speaker 3: I get it, but President's Day, I'm old enough to

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Speaker 3: remember it. We had Lincoln's birthday and Washington's birthday holiday

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Speaker 3: and they weren't their actual birthdays because it was always

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Speaker 3: on a Monday, right, So we had two days there.

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Speaker 3: We got away from that, we consolidated President's Day. We

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Speaker 3: got MLK Day. Great, But you know what with President's Day,

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Speaker 3: why don't we just wait and see each year when

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Speaker 3: the super Bowl will be played and then set the

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Speaker 3: day the day after. Who cares when President's Day is,

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. It's not supposed to be anybody in

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Speaker 3: particular's birthday. It's for all the presidents, especially Washington and Lincoln.

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Speaker 3: So we can put it wherever we want it in February.

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Speaker 3: So the super Bowl, assuming it will always be played

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Speaker 3: in February, because I know, I think twenty I forget.

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Speaker 2: What year, but there are some years where.

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Speaker 3: The super Bowl will fall before President's Day based on

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Speaker 3: the calendar where the NFL season starts. Now it's true,

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Speaker 3: Well I saw a tweet, so it must be true.

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Speaker 3: But and also I saw that in twenty twenty seven

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Speaker 3: Valentine's Day and the super Bowl are the same day.

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Speaker 3: But of course this could all change because we go

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Speaker 3: to eighteen games and then you have Yeah, can you

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Speaker 3: imagine Valentine's Day in the super Bowl on the same day.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be interesting for restaurants.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. We discussed that.

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Speaker 3: Another time, and that's never been an issue before. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's funny you're rolling to the playoffs in January and

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Speaker 3: you see thirty years ago today the super Bowl was played.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, we're in the divisional round.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: But that's the way it was back in the day.

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Speaker 1: So before we get into I guess pretty much the

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Speaker 1: news of the day, I'm asking you a weird question. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but what was your sports viewing over the weekend? What

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Speaker 3: Okay, I took in a little bit of the NBA

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Speaker 3: Skills Competition. Ok, I watched the dunk stuff on I

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Speaker 3: don't even want to say on delay, but I just

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Speaker 3: dunk competition, which was great. Yeah, and guess who else

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Speaker 3: watches it that way? Young people?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Vanderkid, who's nineteen. Now, that's how he consumes this stuff.

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Speaker 3: He's not watching this live. He doesn't even know how

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Speaker 1: Then a couple of guys missed. How do you miss that?

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Speaker 3: I still think the three point Contest has some excitement

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Speaker 1: No, do't expect you too, ye.

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Speaker 3: And I watched slivers here and there of college basketball,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin it for you, but you

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Speaker 1: the best thing you're gonna see all day. I don't

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Speaker 1: really want to ruin it, but it's Sandler's fifty years song,

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Speaker 2: I saw that posted and I didn't listen to.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, it's awesome. I'm telling you, it's the best

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Speaker 1: Saturday Night. That starts. That starts with three fights in

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Speaker 1: know my son Jack, my son Jack is not the

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Speaker 1: I mean, the emotion in it was unbelievable. I watched

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Speaker 1: US and Canada. They'll meet again for the gold medal

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Speaker 1: in the Nation four nations, but it's a quote unquote exhibition,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's an exhibition and these guys are

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Speaker 1: Like we were dumbfounded watching this, like what is going on?

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Speaker 1: It was so cool? And then Yo, Canna scores the

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Speaker 1: that they've kind of moved it around. But man, you

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Speaker 1: that's the NHL's version of an All Star Games, so

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Speaker 3: So just so the listener knows. And so I know

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Speaker 3: the NHL all the four Nations thing is their All.

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Speaker 1: Star competit basically yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's all talk about USA versus the World

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Speaker 2: But I don't even know if that gets it done.

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Speaker 2: It just they're not gonna play hard.

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Speaker 3: Look, they don't play hard in the I don't want

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Speaker 3: I hate when people go there, because they do play hard.

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Speaker 3: They just don't play as hard as they do in

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Speaker 3: complaints to pat Riley teams Van Gundy holding teams to

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Speaker 3: it's a different game.

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Speaker 2: They wanted more scoring. It's changed.

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Speaker 3: I think the beauty of the NFL is we can

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Speaker 3: Wide receivers go across the middle with no fear these days,

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Speaker 3: injuries were at some times catastrophic, right, And so that's changed.

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Speaker 3: But I think those are changes really for the better

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Speaker 3: it's still a physical game. We just witnessed a Super

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Speaker 3: that defensive front for the Eagles. They destroyed the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: So I don't know what you do about the NBA

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Speaker 3: All Star Game. We just witnessed a couple of weeks

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Speaker 3: Bowl games, it's nothing now. It's a flag football game

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Speaker 3: and some skills competition.

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Speaker 2: So I don't even know what you.

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Speaker 3: Do about that, but I think, you know, for their sake,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of working. For lack of a better way

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Speaker 3: I just think all Star games. It's an evolution of

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Speaker 3: it's working in the NHL with this four nations thing.

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Speaker 1: And it's a collision sports like football. You know, basketball

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Speaker 1: But man, it's working at shall. But I also think

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Speaker 1: the other thing too. Is not the right way of

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Speaker 1: saying this, but soccer and hockey are two sports seemingly

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Speaker 3: And with this Dig situation, we just don't know what

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Speaker 3: Mark, Yeah, let's just talk about types of people that

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Speaker 3: But it won't be early, so you have to hit

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Speaker 2: But you're right.

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Speaker 3: You need somebody else who is a veteran, who you

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Speaker 3: He can't miss five games. You can miss two, three,

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Speaker 2: It's not like last year.

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Speaker 2: We went not all in, but we went in man.

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Speaker 3: the contribution factor. I know he's a different kind of player,

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Speaker 3: but in the you know, the contribution and the kind

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Speaker 3: of guy you want to have on the team, and

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Speaker 3: he's gonna you know, Walter made the biggest play in

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Speaker 3: the history of the franchise at receiver, maybe with the

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Speaker 3: catch against the Bengals at eleven. X made maybe the

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Speaker 3: play of the Year last year with the playoff game

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Speaker 3: catch to snap out of it for the offense at

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Speaker 3: the time when CJ scrambled after dropping the snap or

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Speaker 3: whatever happened there. So I like having those guys around,

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Speaker 3: but you need more and they've got to figure it out.

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Speaker 3: So now that we know the DIGS contract voided headed

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Speaker 3: for the market, anytime someone's heads for the market, it's like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happen. Now, you know, you

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Speaker 3: just don't know. You cannot You can predict these things,

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Speaker 3: but not accurately. It's a wild.

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Speaker 1: As Joe Shane as Joe Shane about yahing what was

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Speaker 1: gonna happen with Saquon Barker. It's hard, it's tough. I

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Speaker 1: you know, when you look at the free agent listing,

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Speaker 1: there are sixty five unrestricted free agents wide receiver at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, and so what I did was I filtered

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Speaker 1: it so that I could have the youngest guys at

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Speaker 1: the top. And I look at some of these names

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Speaker 1: at the top and I think, man, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they would be expensive, and I think they've got a

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Speaker 1: little something. Rondale Moore from Atlanta, Elijah Moore from the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, who has never used the way he was

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Speaker 1: supposed to Diami brown from Washington. I think it could

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Speaker 1: be really interesting if they look. Here's another guy that

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Speaker 1: I absolutely loved, and that's Josh Palmer. We didn't see

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Speaker 1: him a playoff game because he was hurt. Josh Palmer

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers. I mean, he could be a really

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Speaker 1: good two or three. Now what the price tag is

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Speaker 1: going to be. I don't know. Tyland Wallace from Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: He's a great special teamer. Maybe he could be. He's

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Speaker 1: kind we already kind of have him, I think in

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Speaker 1: Xavier Hutchinson. But just some of those names at the

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Speaker 1: younger end of the free agent listing, like Man, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe these guys have been around four years,

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Speaker 1: maybe they're a look at. And then of course they're

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Speaker 1: is T Higgins, who I know the Texans won't look at.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people will be Higgins. Get

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Speaker 1: on T Higgins. No, no, no, no, listen to Higgins is

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Speaker 1: gonna make a lot of money that Texans don't have

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Speaker 1: on the salary cap.

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Speaker 2: But Mark love him.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, to go fund me against the cap for

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Speaker 3: T Higgins. Yes, of course you want T Higgins, Johnny,

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Speaker 3: Why do I envision a scene like Jonah Hill talking

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Speaker 3: to Brad Pitt. You know, it's James Lifford talking to

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Speaker 3: Nick Nick. This is Elijah Moore. He's a receiver, he's

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Speaker 3: been underutilized, He's got potential. This is Josh Palmer. His

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Speaker 3: big flaw is, you know, maybe they construct it that way.

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Speaker 3: They find diamonds in the rough, maybe not so rough,

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Speaker 3: maybe diamonds in the first cut.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing, the only thing about that

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Speaker 1: now you're gonna have to You're gonna have to pay

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Speaker 1: for it either way, either in a draft pick you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to pay but you already have that rookie

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Speaker 1: pool set aside, or you have to pay for it

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Speaker 1: with free agent money. But I still think there are

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Speaker 1: some guys that I look at this list and I go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: could any of these guys be a really solid, strong

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Speaker 1: number three that when you if you draft a receiver

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Speaker 1: maybe in the first or second round, that guy grows

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Speaker 1: into your number two, and now you've got a threesome

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Speaker 1: at least going into twenty twenty five. We'll see what

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Speaker 1: happens with Tank. And that's the way you go about it.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's potentially it's something that can happen,

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Speaker 1: because at this point right now, I would love to say, yes,

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Speaker 1: Metchi's your solid number two, Hutches your solid number two.

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Speaker 1: I don't know they were there with those guys just yet,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think you can take the risk of, oh,

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Speaker 1: they'll definitely be that guy in twenty you know, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five. So I do think that an infusion of

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Speaker 1: young talent has to come into that. I would have

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Speaker 1: loved Diggs because you know, Diggs is going to produce.

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Speaker 1: You know, it might have been one hundred catches, thousand yards,

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Speaker 1: five touchdowns if he stays healthy, but you'll take that.

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Speaker 1: I would take that. But I just, you know, not

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Speaker 1: gonna happen with what has taken place today, with the

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Speaker 1: twenty eight different players throughout the league that contracts void

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Speaker 1: today twenty three days. I don't know why this. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why that date. I have no idea why

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Speaker 1: twenty three days. I don't I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: That had either.

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Speaker 3: Why not just have all these things void three days

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Speaker 3: before free agency, right the legal period?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark, as I look at this list of free

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Speaker 1: agents though unrestricted free agency wide receivers. I think there's

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Speaker 1: a possibility of finding one of these young guys, or

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Speaker 1: you know, taking a guy that's been around that's still young,

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Speaker 1: like Roddelle Moore is twenty four and he's been in

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Speaker 1: the league for four years. And I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 1: the answer, but I do think that finding maybe a

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Speaker 1: young piece, taking a chance on an Elijah Moore at

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Speaker 1: Damie Brown a Josh Palmer, Hey, it didn't really work

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Speaker 1: the way you wanted it to in your location. You know,

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Speaker 1: think the Chargers, Lad McConkie comes in, Palmer kind of gets,

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Speaker 1: you know, moved out because Lad mccaky's really freaking good.

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Speaker 1: He's really good. So that maybe that makes an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for Palmer. Now I don't think you say to Palmer, hey,

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Speaker 1: we want you to be our number three, but you know,

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Speaker 1: you take you listen. Maybe there's an offer, maybe not,

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Speaker 1: but I would imagine they're definitely gonna look at this

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Speaker 1: list of unrestricted free agents and kind of highlight a few,

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Speaker 1: And then the other question becomes, you, who's got knowledge

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Speaker 1: of these guys, who's been around these guys? Maybe other

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Speaker 1: stops as coaches staff that can give you, Hey, Rondel

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Speaker 1: Moore is just an awesome, awesome dude. He is swarmy.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of guy we want, you know. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. But it looks less and

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Speaker 1: less like Stefan Diggs is gonna be here with us

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the other thing that I want to know,

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Speaker 3: and we don't know this, and they're not gonna tell

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Speaker 3: us how much input has Nick Careley had in short

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Speaker 3: order over never mind Digs or let me rephrase that,

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Speaker 3: over Digs and over anybody else that they want to

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Speaker 3: either sign resign a choir because obviously Demiico has an

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Speaker 3: opinion and he's got the roster. Nick does what Nick does,

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Speaker 3: and he's amazing at it. But Nick Keley comes in

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Speaker 3: and they clearly like him because they hired him, and

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Speaker 3: he's gonna have opinions, and I wonder what they are.

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Speaker 3: And we're just not gonna know how that trio of

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Speaker 3: men deal with this.

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Speaker 1: Well, I said it the other day when we were

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Speaker 1: talking to Nick. You know, one of the things I remember,

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Speaker 1: Jordan rod Reeg, who writes for the athletics. She did

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Speaker 1: a great, great podcast a couple summers ago in which

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Speaker 1: she interviewed Mike McDaniel Miami. Everybody kind of off the

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan tree his branches, and McVeigh was one of

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Speaker 1: those guys, and he talked about how his offense changed,

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Speaker 1: like he went out through the Rams to LA thinking

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Speaker 1: his offense was gonna be one thing, and it really

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Speaker 1: kind of turned into something else because once he got

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Speaker 1: there and he saw his talent and what he had,

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Speaker 1: in particular Cooper Cup and Robert Woods and how well

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Speaker 1: they blocked, He's like, man, I kind of like this,

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Speaker 1: maybe I need to think about this. It's adaptability. But

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Speaker 1: you went and he went to LA with the thought

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Speaker 1: of these players can fit in the offense. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: about running and he gets there and he's like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: the guys I have there already they can do this,

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Speaker 1: that and the other. But at this point Nick Haley

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Speaker 1: might have an idea, this is what I want to do,

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Speaker 1: this is what I need. So yeah, we can go

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Speaker 1: with Nico and X and Matchian, maybe bring in a

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Speaker 1: free agent somebody I would imagine, and this doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, but I would imagine that Hayley would like

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Speaker 1: to have somebody that is familiar with him familiar with

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Speaker 1: the jargon of the offense, the verbage of the offense.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that's probably one of the free agents

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Speaker 1: that they would end up looking at, or one of

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Speaker 1: the players to bring in that they would look at

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Speaker 1: that has some of that knowledge, that could share it

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Speaker 1: with the other guys in the room, et cetera. I

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Speaker 1: would imagine one guy that they would bring in would

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Speaker 1: have that. And like you said, that's Nick Keyley impacting that,

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Speaker 1: not just going out and getting the best free agent

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Speaker 1: that there is. What's the best free agent, what's the

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Speaker 1: best player that could come in and impact this offense

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Speaker 1: the way that Nick Keyley sees it right now? So

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Speaker 1: I think you bring up a great, great point. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of Nick Keylee, we will hear from him a

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Speaker 1: little bit later in the show. Mark and I went

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Speaker 1: two on one his very first interview here in Houston.

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Speaker 1: You will hear that a little later in the show.

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Speaker 1: But right now, we got to go around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: What is happening in the NFL. This league is always shaking, moving, jiving.

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Speaker 1: I got the news for you next right here and

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. What's happened everybody, and welcome back. To

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Speaker 1: this edition to Texans All Access from NONDAYE Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for

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Speaker 1: your Houston Texans and man, I forgot to bring this

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Speaker 1: up with Mark. We are one week away from being

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Speaker 1: in indian Apple for the twenty twenty I almost said

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenty five, the twenty twenty five NFL scouting combine

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Speaker 1: yet again in Indianapolis. This will be number eleven. My

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Speaker 1: first one is twenty fifteen, so hopefully my math is

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Speaker 1: correct on that. But there was a combined in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: not in twenty twenty one. But there were pro days

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one but not in twenty twenty. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: so every this will be so I guess that makes

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Speaker 1: it ten ten combines fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty

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Speaker 1: two two and three twenty four two five. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: reaching whatever ten is in the anniversary scale of going

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Speaker 1: to the NFL combined. So looking forward to that for sure.

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Speaker 1: So next week market calendars, we will be in Indy.

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Speaker 1: Shows from Indy we'll start on Tuesday, So you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have on Sports Radio six ten. You're gonna have Sean

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Speaker 1: and Seth in West Palm with the Astros and then

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Speaker 1: book in Net with us in Indianapolis. Of course, Area

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Speaker 1: forty five will take you the rest of the night,

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Speaker 1: as they will tonight as well. Now, one of the

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Speaker 1: news nuggets that came up at some point, I think

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Speaker 1: it was maybe this weekend. It was kind of an

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Speaker 1: odd that it came up, but there was a rumor

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Speaker 1: that the Pittsburgh Steelers called Jacksonville about Trevor Lawrence. So

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Speaker 1: Trevor was asked today on our Friend k Adams Show

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Speaker 1: about wait a second, is there any is there anything

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Speaker 1: to this? And he said, you know, I didn't really

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Speaker 1: see anything. My agent texted me and said, hey, this

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Speaker 1: is a report that is out there. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's anything to it. I'll check into it. Lawrence said,

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Speaker 1: So I saw it, and it's funny though, Like when

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Speaker 1: he said it to me, I was like, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say your heart drops, but you're kind of like what

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Speaker 1: And then I'm thinking about how I can't even get

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Speaker 1: I have a no trade clause in my contract, so

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Speaker 1: I would know about it if I was getting traded

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Speaker 1: or if that was something that was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'd have to be on board with it,

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Speaker 1: which I'm not. Lawrence continued, I'm happy here in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: I plan on you know, we want to win a

647
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Speaker 1: super Bowl here and I think we can do that,

648
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to leave Jacksonville. So I'm happy here,

649
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: obviously not going to Pittsburgh. Now, apparently this was refuted

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Speaker 1: by a number of different people, but the fact that

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Speaker 1: it got out there is kind of odd, kind of

652
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: strange that it got out there. Did the Jags leak it,

653
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: Did the Steelers leak it? I don't know. Somebody leaked it.

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Speaker 1: It got out there, but it was shot down. No

655
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: nobody called, nobody did this. But it makes you think, well,

656
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: it made Lawrence think too, that they might might maybe. Now,

657
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: the salary cap hit is enormous, so I don't think

658
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Speaker 1: you could take a dead cab hit like that. This

659
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: would have to be one of the craziest trades you've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. But Trevor's gonna have new head coach Liam Cohen.

661
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Speaker 1: He's got young offensive coordinator from the Vikings, Grant Yudinski,

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Speaker 1: who a lot of people raved, who I believe interviewed

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Speaker 1: for the Texans off its coordinator job. They went to

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Speaker 1: day Kayley, who you hear from next segment. But they

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Speaker 1: both want to work with Trevor Lawrence. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: see it, I get it. Lawrence continued talking about Liam Cohen.

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Speaker 1: He said, Liam texted me, actually, I guess the day

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Speaker 1: after it came out, and Liam said, shouldn't even have

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Speaker 1: to say this, So that's not coming from us. Lawrence said,

670
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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I figured it, so we're all good.

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Speaker 1: He didn't even have to send that. There's no doubt

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Speaker 1: on my side. So that Trevor Lawrence the Pittsburgh thing, Yeah,

673
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: kind of odd, kind of weird. But does it mean

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Speaker 1: that they are out on Trevor Lawrence. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be interesting to see how this year goes

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Speaker 1: with Liam Cohen, Grant Yudinski. Because Trevor came in twenty

677
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: twenty one, it was awful, turned it over to Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 1: It was good in twenty twenty two, was good for

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Speaker 1: a stretch at twenty twenty three, went great, It's probably

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Speaker 1: great at the end of twenty twenty two, twenty twenty

681
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Speaker 1: four abject disaster, if you will, So no excuses now, Guy.

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior one of the best young receivers in

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Speaker 1: the league. He's got Liam Cohen, a great and bright

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Speaker 1: offensive mind. Grant Yedinski one of the young up and

685
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Speaker 1: comers in the NFL. So it's down on Trevor. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see what they end up doing. Dan Parr did

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Speaker 1: a mock draft the other day and I heard the

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Speaker 1: guys talking about Sean Seth talking about this from the

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Speaker 1: Texans side. They were talking about at pick number twenty five,

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Speaker 1: he has a Mecca Buca, Ohio state receiver going to

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. I think, okay, don't spend too much

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Speaker 1: time on that. The next player after was the Rams

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Speaker 1: with Luther Burden. The player before is the guy that

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Speaker 1: I really loved, Nick im and Worry from South Carolina

695
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: love him safety, big safety, can run. He'd be really

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Speaker 1: fun in this defense. But I don't know, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't listen to the whole segment. One thing that the

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Speaker 1: guy's kind of glossed over was the fact that Dan

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Speaker 1: Parr has a trade in here, a projected trade Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones and the Cowboys trading with the Cleveland Browns for

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, two first rounders this year's and next year's

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Speaker 1: Michah Barson's said apparently they'll take less money to get

703
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Speaker 1: Miles in there. Can you imagine Miles with Micah? I

704
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Speaker 1: go for it. I'd love it, go for it. Tear

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Speaker 1: it down, like not, tear down your future. I mean

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Speaker 1: you're giving out two first. I mean, we've seen the

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Speaker 1: Texans do that before, but we got Jeremy Tutzell. Larry

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00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: Tunzell has been a Pro Bowl or how many times?

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Speaker 1: Four times since he's been here, four or five. So

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Speaker 1: from that way, it's definitely paid off with Laramie. But

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Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys, man, Does Miles Garrett put you over

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Speaker 1: the top? I mean, Miles Garrett's a great player. I

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Speaker 1: guess I'm saying it from the Cowboys side. Are the Cowboys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: They ready to take on Miles Garrett's money. Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: Mica is gonna be a great edge presence. Is that enough?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with Miles really, but I

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Speaker 1: could see them doing it. So the Browns did then

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Speaker 1: move to twelve, they would have that pick at twelve,

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Speaker 1: they would also have picked number two, two and twelve.

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Speaker 1: Hey wait a second, that sounds familiar, but man, that

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Speaker 1: would be kind of crazy. Because here and then in

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Speaker 1: his draft the number two he takes a dual carter

725
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Speaker 1: at number twelve, he ends up taking Asha genty. That

726
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Speaker 1: would be one hell of a draft for the Browns,

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Speaker 1: but that would be interesting to see if that were

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Speaker 1: to happen. Okay, coming up next, Nick Cayley's gonna join us.

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Speaker 1: If you missed it, well you won't want to miss

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Speaker 1: it this time. Two on one, Mark myself, Nick Caylee.

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Speaker 1: Next right here in Texans All Access were going final

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Speaker 1: segment of this initiation to Texans All Access from the

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio studio. I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst,

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Speaker 1: sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. So glad you are

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Speaker 1: with me this evening. Happy President's Day to all of

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Speaker 1: you out there. Hopefully got a nice little day off

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Speaker 1: from work, or if you didn't get it today, hopefully

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Speaker 1: you're able to get it a little bit down the road.

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Speaker 1: Now we Mark and I have heard from a lot

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Speaker 1: of people about our interview with Nick Cayley. It's been

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Speaker 1: blown up on YouTube. And if you're out and about

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Speaker 1: on President's Day and maybe you had a dinner or

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Speaker 1: holiday dinner somewhere and you're driving home or you just

744
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: maybe where at work today and you had to drive home.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people wanted to hear this

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Speaker 1: Nick Keyley interviews, so so only one he's done in Houston.

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Speaker 1: Figured we bring it to you right now. Here's Mark

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Speaker 1: and myself with new offensive coordinator Nick Keyley, coach.

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Speaker 4: Welcome, Thank you very much. I'm excited to be here. Well,

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Speaker 4: tell us I want to start here. What's the first

751
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Speaker 4: order of business for you?

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00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: Pouring over game footage, making plans for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: How do you go about your business?

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Speaker 4: Initially, Yeah, probably getting my laptop set up and getting

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Speaker 4: on the box a few boxes I had unpacked. But

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Speaker 4: in all seriousness, just you know, really getting with the staff,

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Speaker 4: kind of getting organized here in the first couple of

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Speaker 4: days that I've been in town. And then obviously you know,

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Speaker 4: getting through some tape already, you know, got to jump

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Speaker 4: on some of that, but you know, trying to move

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Speaker 4: forward that day by day.

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Speaker 1: Nick heard different coordinators head coaches talk about this when

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Speaker 1: they take over in a different location. Some of them

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Speaker 1: want to see everything that happened in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: or the previous year twenty twenty four. Some are like Nope,

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Speaker 1: starting brand new. How do you kind of dive in

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Speaker 1: as the offensive. Do you want to watch everything from

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Speaker 1: last year? Do you want to get a beat on it?

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Speaker 1: Or you're just coming in fresh. This is what I

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Speaker 1: want to do, and this is how we're gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: We'll take some of those things, but I don't really

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Speaker 1: want to dive into last year much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think biggest thing is just getting a feel

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Speaker 4: for the players, what their straints are, what their play

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Speaker 4: style is, and just you know, how you know, we

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Speaker 4: view them in terms of moving forward as a staff

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Speaker 4: and how we can use them. Uh, you know, moving forward, scheme, scheme,

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Speaker 4: it changes, it evolves. You know, even in continuous years

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Speaker 4: with the same set of coaches and players, you know,

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Speaker 4: you will evolve those things from year to year. I

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00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 4: don't think anybody ever stays the same. If you do that,

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Speaker 4: you'll end up getting you know, you got to evolve.

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Speaker 4: So from that standpoint, really, you know, trying to identify

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Speaker 4: what the players do best and getting a feel for them,

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Speaker 4: and then obviously get him on the grass here in

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Speaker 4: a couple of months and get rid of rock and roll.

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Speaker 3: You've been around a lot of different quarterbacks. Tom Brady,

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Speaker 3: cam Newton, Matthew Stafford. What do you see in C. J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud?

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Speaker 4: I see a competitor, an ultimate competitor, a guy that

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00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: loves football, competes at a high level, has a very

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00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: good arm, arm talent, can spin it. He throws accurate,

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Speaker 4: you know, and he can playoff schedule and he's instinct.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of things to really like and

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to get an opportunity to work with

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Speaker 4: them and just build a relationship and pave the way

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Speaker 4: going forward.

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Speaker 1: One of the things Nick, that Mark and I've talked

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Speaker 1: about over the years is that tight ends coaches are

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Speaker 1: probably the most important coaches. And I'm not kissing up

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Speaker 1: You'll see where I'm going with this in a second,

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Speaker 1: But the tight end coaches are so important because they've

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Speaker 1: got to be involved in the run game in every

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Speaker 1: aspect of the run game. They've got to be important

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Speaker 1: to the pass protection. Yeah, they've got to be important

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Speaker 1: to the passing game, you know, getting out running routes

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Speaker 1: and things like that. As the tight end position, you

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Speaker 1: obviously have spent a lot of time with it. How

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Speaker 1: important does it become to this offense that you want

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Speaker 1: to create here in Houston?

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Speaker 4: A very important and I think we have an exceptional

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Speaker 4: tight end coach in Jake Moreland and really excited to

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Speaker 4: get to work with him. But yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 4: you know, I always I told I've told the guys

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Speaker 4: for a long time.

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 4: And it's selfish probably when you're coaching the position, But

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Speaker 4: that's the straw that serves a drink. Show me a

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Speaker 4: really physical run game, and I'll show you really physical

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Speaker 4: tight ends. And and you know, I think it starts

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Speaker 4: an extension of the offensive line to cantry all the

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Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. When you can affect the game in

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Speaker 4: the passing game and you can get got mismatches on safeties, backers,

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Speaker 4: et cetera. You can extend guys, you can get open

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Speaker 4: and catch the ball with size, uh and stature as well.

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Speaker 5: Very important. That position is very important to me.

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Speaker 4: And you know, again, i'm you know, maybe a little

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Speaker 4: bit biased, but I believe that with with everything in

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Speaker 4: my being.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Jake Morland. You've been with Cole Popovich before

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Speaker 3: in New England. What about working with your assistant coaches coach,

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Speaker 3: how's that relationship gonna go for you?

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Speaker 5: No, it's it's huge.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's not one person, it's a staff, and

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Speaker 4: you lean on a staff and you know, we're all

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Speaker 4: in this together. And I have a lot of trust

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Speaker 4: and confidence in all the guys uh here, and and

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Speaker 4: we're all in this together.

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Speaker 5: It's it's it's it's us. It's about us, It's about

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Speaker 5: our players, and you know, we're we're we're gonna be

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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 4: Connected From that standpoint, What was this process like for you, Nick?

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Speaker 4: You know it was, you know, it was, it was great.

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Speaker 4: It everything kind of happened fast. You know, you don't

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Speaker 4: ever really I always try to be present. I've always

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Speaker 4: tried to be where my feet are.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Really enjoyed our time.

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Speaker 4: In Los Angeles, you know, my family, and you know

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00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 4: that was that was a hard place to lead because

851
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: there was a lot of great people and when you

852
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 4: when this opportunity opened up, very exciting and very intriguing.

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Speaker 4: So it was and like I said, it was about

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Speaker 4: the people here. And I couldn't be more excited to

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Speaker 4: be here, you know, and and to be with coach

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Speaker 4: Ryan's and this this team and this staff.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: So the John Carroll Alumni Association has a lot of

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Speaker 3: connections here, all right. So could you discuss that a

860
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: little bit your relationship with some of the guys who

861
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: have been to that school, because Nick Casario for one,

862
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: and many others, Frank Ross for instance.

863
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there's a lot of a lot of

864
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: great people, a very good Division III school on the

865
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 4: east side of Cleveland, with a lot of guys really

866
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: love football, and you know, there's a lot of people

867
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: that have paved the way going back to obviously Don Shula,

868
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 4: et cetera.

869
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 5: You know, going back.

870
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: So it's a it's a special place, and I'm really

871
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 4: you know, it was. It shaped me and even my

872
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 4: years there, I had always looked and wrote and reached

873
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 4: out and tried to email and just learned from the

874
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 4: people that had come before me. So it's a special place,

875
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 4: and there's a lot of people that have gone through there,

876
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: and you get a great education and.

877
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 5: You love football. It's a great place to go.

878
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: Did you ever talk to Rams defensive coordinator Chris Shula

879
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: about his grandfath Absolutely?

880
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely.

881
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 4: And when I was at Florida Atlantic coach in the

882
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 4: second area, I got to meet coach Sula down you know,

883
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 4: in South Florida when we were playing FIU and that

884
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 4: was one of the cooler moments. I had never had

885
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 4: an opportunity to really ever get to meet him, and

886
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 4: I did that and so it was it was pretty cool.

887
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: Coach, how important And I'm gonna use your former and

888
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: I'm glad to say former head coach Sean mcvayh talked

889
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: about this in a podcast. So when he went to LA,

890
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: he thought he was gonna be the eleven personnel team,

891
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: Like that's what he wanted to be. That's what he

892
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: thought he's gonna be. He gets there and he's got

893
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: Robert Woods and he's got Cooper Cupp and he's like,

894
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: wait a second, I think I can kind of be

895
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: like a twelve team because these guys blocked so well

896
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: as wide receivers and so he kind of adapted and

897
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: changed for the while. So how important is adaptability not

898
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: just season the season, but play to play series the series,

899
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: game to game. How important is that for you? That

900
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: adaptability is a big thing, not staying stubborn to what

901
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: it is that you want to do, but better.

902
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 5: For your team. Yeah, it's it's it's important.

903
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 4: I think you got to be able to adapt and

904
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: I think it gives you versatility.

905
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 5: It's not just throwing.

906
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: Fastballs, fastballs fast.

907
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 5: You got to change up.

908
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 4: You got a curve ball, you got a slider, and

909
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 4: you you do that with different types of players. You

910
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 4: do that with different personnel groupings. It could be you know,

911
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 4: different you know, multiple types of twelve personnel groupings utilizing

912
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: different players, or heavier personnel thirteen or it's eleven and

913
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 4: you know, twenty one, et cetera, whatever it is. But

914
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 4: I think you can do a lot of different things.

915
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 4: And you know, present and you know, present some issues

916
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 4: defensively obviously too.

917
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: You like that thirteen personnel, don't you.

918
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 5: Hey, I've been known to like some thirteen personnel in

919
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 5: my time.

920
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, exactly what about getting ready to call plays?

921
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: Preparing for that in the offseason?

922
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: How can you do that before you get to the

923
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: starting line in September?

924
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: I know you have preseason games.

925
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, a couple of different ways.

926
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: Obviously, training the mindset, putting yourself through those processes when

927
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 4: you're going through practice, live, live opportunities to call plays.

928
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 4: I think all those things, you know, factor into that absolutely.

929
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: Coach you talked in your press conference, you asked about

930
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: you got to New England twenty fifteen, and so you'd

931
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be around Dante Scarneki. Yes, a lot

932
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: of people have said he might be the best offensive

933
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: line coach that has existed in the NFL. What if

934
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: he meant to you and what if he meant to

935
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: your career and how you've kind of learned the offensive

936
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: line portion of this.

937
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's meant a lot to me. He's a big

938
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 4: mentor to me. He's always been supportive, and he he

939
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 4: he mastered making some things that could be very complex,

940
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: very simple and digestible for guys so that they can

941
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: turn it loose, they can play fast and they're rooted

942
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: in fundamentals. And that's what I take from him. And

943
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 4: he has always been a great sounding board for not

944
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: just me, for a lot of us that have cross

945
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: paths with him. But he's an exceptional coach and a

946
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 4: lot of respect for him.

947
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: All Right. So Sean mcvayh has that recall ability. We've

948
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: seen it.

949
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: It's freakish, right, So if we had a game show

950
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 3: McVeigh versus Belichick with recall of their own games, that'd.

951
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 5: Be pretty good, right, It'd be believable. Yeah, you're honest?

952
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: Are you?

953
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 2: Are you like that? As well.

954
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: I have some Yeah, I I can draw you know,

955
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: I shot those two are rare. Uh there, there's I

956
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: have some obscure things, usually football related, that I can

957
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: pull from past experiences. But I'd say those two are

958
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: they're rare. Yeah, they're they're they're elite when it comes

959
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 4: to that.

960
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: You know, this McKinley, Ohio, this McKinley Canton, Ohio situation, like,

961
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: there are so many coaches. Obviously the McDaniels come out

962
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: of there, you come out of there, have been so

963
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: many that have come out of there. What is it

964
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: about that particular area, Nick that it's become kind of

965
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: a It's not the cradle of coaches like Miami, Ohio,

966
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: but in some sense it's kind of is because we've

967
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: seen so many great coaches and players come out of

968
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: that area.

969
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: What is it about that area? Yeah, well I can't

970
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 4: and Ohio can't. McKinley's the high school did not go

971
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 4: to McKinley, just for the record, but it's a great,

972
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: great school. That area is Star County, Ohio. Uh, you know,

973
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: there's twenty high schools or whatever there. It is a

974
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 4: it is the fabric of that community is is football

975
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: and it's blue collar, it's tough people. It's a great place.

976
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

977
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 4: And and as a kid growing up, you play football

978
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: on the street, you played in your backyard, you know,

979
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: and and you you dream of playing in those high

980
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: school stadiums. And I think you're influenced by the great

981
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 4: coaches we've had there, and there's a lot of great players.

982
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 4: And I couldn't have thought dreamt of a better place

983
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 4: to grow up, you know, to be able to be

984
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: obviously influenced by the game of football.

985
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: Did you give any thought to doing anything else with

986
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: your life as you were growing up?

987
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: Zero?

988
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 5: It was coaching all the way I wanted to coach.

989
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: You haven't been here long, but I know you've been

990
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: kind of locked in and doing what you have to do.

991
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: But just your thoughts on the city of Houston and

992
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: being here. Have you ever had much experience in Texas

993
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: at all than traveling for games and such? Now, what

994
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: are you thought, you.

995
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 4: Know, just basically being here for games, practices, et cetera.

996
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: It's there's it's a it's a great city. There's a

997
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 4: lot of energy, there's a lot of things to do,

998
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 4: you know, and there's a lot of places to go.

999
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 5: So I mean, it's you.

1000
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: Know, it's it's a great city and you know, excited

1001
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 4: to find my way around.

1002
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: All right. So one more for the fans.

1003
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: What is the Nick Kereley off What can you tell

1004
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: us today about the Nick Keley offense?

1005
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1006
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 4: Tough, physical, you know, getting the ball to our playmakers

1007
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 4: and being connected and playing smart football and not beating ourselves,

1008
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: taking care of the football, being disciplined and competing for

1009
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: you know, four plus quarters, however long it takes us

1010
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 4: to get the job done.

1011
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: Sounds great, coach, Thanks a lot for joining us, Thanks

1012
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: for having me so.

1013
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: Much great stuff there from Nick Cayley. Get the excitement,

1014
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: you get the passion, there's no question about that. And

1015
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: appreciate him being with us last week. So if you

1016
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: missed it, there you go, Nick Keyley one on two

1017
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: well as they'll always be, or two on one depending

1018
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: on a look at it with Mark and myself this

1019
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: past week. Appreciate you guys listening our President's Day. Thank

1020
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: you so much. We will see you tomorrow another episode

1021
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: Texans All Access, Mark and I all be on six

1022
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: o'clock sharp. Then we turn it over to Area forty five,

1023
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: which we will do right about now. Good luck, boys,

1024
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: we'll see tomorrow and as always, go Texans.