WEBVTT - Pod Meets Reptiles 0:00:11.100 --> 0:00:13.860 Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel. I'm Ryder Strong. 0:00:14.100 --> 0:00:14.780 And I'm Wilfred O. 0:00:16.140 --> 0:00:18.639 Normally, we would start with some pre-show chatter, but I 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.490 have a feeling today's episode is going to be jam-packed, 0:00:22.670 --> 0:00:24.750 so I do not want to waste any time. We 0:00:24.829 --> 0:00:29.030 could not be more excited to welcome this week's guest 0:00:29.070 --> 0:00:31.710 to our new Disney Plus show. He has been a 0:00:32.310 --> 0:00:36.230 staple in Hollywood since infancy, appearing on Dynasty, Give Me 0:00:36.270 --> 0:00:40.139 a Break, and the Thanksgiving classic, Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. 0:00:40.670 --> 0:00:44.370 But most notably, he appeared alongside Robin Williams in Mrs. 0:00:44.430 --> 0:00:47.850 Doubtfire and would eventually end up on our set as 0:00:47.990 --> 0:00:52.920 Jack Hunter, our favorite character who yells, yeah, when Topanga 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:53.680 calls everyone over. 0:00:59.590 --> 0:01:01.560 It might be. It's arguably one of my favorite moments 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:02.460 in seven years. 0:01:02.620 --> 0:01:02.860 Yeah. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:07.119 Yeah. Oh, it's so great. Oh, yeah. 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:10.940 He has his own podcast, Brotherly Love, alongside his siblings, 0:01:11.020 --> 0:01:14.510 Joey and Andy, and they launched The Lawrence Brothers Show, 0:01:14.530 --> 0:01:18.649 a social media sitcom exclusively on their Instagram. 0:01:19.190 --> 0:01:20.110 But for us. 0:01:20.310 --> 0:01:24.270 Today on Pod Meets World, he is our newly crowned 0:01:24.610 --> 0:01:29.810 animal expert. Please welcome to the show, Matthew Lawrence. 0:01:29.890 --> 0:01:34.070 It's awesome. It's awesome. Is it Marlon Perkins? Is that 0:01:34.090 --> 0:01:36.850 the famous one who would always come? He would go on, 0:01:36.910 --> 0:01:39.390 is it the Tonight Show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was 0:01:39.410 --> 0:01:42.110 a big bunch. Jack Hanna was another one. Even Jeff 0:01:42.170 --> 0:01:45.650 Corwin at times would do that kind of stuff. And obviously, yeah. 0:01:46.110 --> 0:01:49.730 The greatest of all time. Crikey. Steve Irwin. He was 0:01:49.770 --> 0:01:52.190 the best, yeah. Oh my gosh, his love and his 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.540 passion for the natural world was unmatched. I'll never forget, 0:01:56.580 --> 0:01:59.080 there was a clip of him that I literally will 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:01.740 watch if I ever get a little beaten up when 0:02:01.780 --> 0:02:04.200 it comes to conservation these days where he's like, oh money, 0:02:04.500 --> 0:02:05.740 I love money, and you know what I'm going to 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.840 do with it? I'm going to buy wild spaces, and 0:02:07.860 --> 0:02:09.889 I don't care whose money it is, I'll take it, 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.300 and I'll buy that park, and I'll buy that piece. 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.780 Did you ever meet him? No. No, and here's the 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.100 crazy thing. I don't know if we're just going to 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.930 jump right in. Here's the crazy thing. I never met him, 0:02:20.010 --> 0:02:23.250 and I missed it by a year because his right-hand man, 0:02:23.330 --> 0:02:26.000 Jeff Lem, who then went to the San Diego Zoo 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:30.480 as the head herpetologist in the safari park there, the curator- 0:02:30.980 --> 0:02:34.780 and he became my good buddy literally six months after 0:02:34.820 --> 0:02:37.100 because he left Queensland and came back to San Diego, 0:02:37.220 --> 0:02:39.680 and I was working with the San Diego Zoo by 0:02:39.740 --> 0:02:42.890 that point. So I missed it by that much. I 0:02:43.190 --> 0:02:46.470 subsequently had been to their zoo when I was over 0:02:46.510 --> 0:02:49.829 working in Australia and met everybody over there and got 0:02:49.850 --> 0:02:52.049 to hang out and just what an amazing facility they 0:02:52.110 --> 0:02:56.690 have built. Anyway, enough about me, guys. Congratulations on this show. 0:02:56.790 --> 0:02:59.149 Thank you. I'll never forget, and I was angry with 0:02:59.210 --> 0:03:01.739 Andy for doing this. But we did a live show 0:03:01.750 --> 0:03:04.320 in Vegas and Danielle was so gracious to come and 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.200 save our butts on that show. You happened to be 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.820 in town. It was just miraculous. I don't know how 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.880 that worked out. She takes any excuse to go to Vegas. 0:03:11.900 --> 0:03:15.130 She happened to be here. She was like, Vegas? I 0:03:15.169 --> 0:03:18.929 happened to be here. Here's the slot machine call. It's 0:03:18.990 --> 0:03:19.970 like her bat signal. 0:03:20.389 --> 0:03:21.010 It's like, cha-ching! 0:03:21.690 --> 0:03:27.440 I happened to be there that month. She came, she 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:31.040 bailed us out. And Andy, this was not a prep question. 0:03:31.060 --> 0:03:32.900 He was like, so you guys almost wrapping up. I mean, 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:34.180 what are you going to do next? And I almost 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.440 smacked him. I was like, why would you ask Daniel that? 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:38.820 And Daniel was like, you know, we're going to pivot. 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.660 We're going to figure something out. We don't know. We're scrambling. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.660 And you were so sweet and actually that answer in itself. 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.560 But then to see all the stuff that you guys 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.270 are building since then, I just got to give it up. 0:03:48.650 --> 0:03:53.230 We love you. Thank you. What it is that you 0:03:53.270 --> 0:03:57.110 guys are doing, every time I open my social media 0:03:57.210 --> 0:03:58.990 or I go and I listen to things and I 0:03:59.050 --> 0:04:01.630 watch things, you guys, I'm always there and I'm always watching. 0:04:01.690 --> 0:04:04.080 So just know that I'm always there at support. I 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:05.820 absolutely love seeing all the stuff that you're doing and 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.880 you guys have pivoted Beautiful. We're there to ruin your 0:04:08.940 --> 0:04:12.220 feed for as long as possible. That's what we're doing. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.460 Funny story. I was just doing, um, I was just 0:04:15.500 --> 0:04:19.690 doing a press junket for this, um, for the graphic novel, 0:04:20.490 --> 0:04:23.230 which you were so gracious to be a part of. 0:04:23.270 --> 0:04:25.790 You guys have all just helped me out so much. Anyway. Um, 0:04:26.070 --> 0:04:29.089 the biggest, one of the biggest questions was reboots the 0:04:29.150 --> 0:04:32.610 nineties thing. Every publication said, when are we getting a 0:04:32.650 --> 0:04:33.480 Jack and Eric spinoff? 0:04:33.630 --> 0:04:34.159 Yes. 0:04:34.260 --> 0:04:35.620 And I was like, well, you know, I don't know 0:04:35.660 --> 0:04:37.680 if the boat sailed on that, but it's such a 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:39.860 bummer because we were close. I tell them all, I 0:04:39.860 --> 0:04:42.560 was like, Disney wanted it. It's just that relationship between 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.870 the creators and Disney kind of fell apart. I think 0:04:45.910 --> 0:04:47.950 you could still do it. Jack and Eric come back together. 0:04:48.029 --> 0:04:50.310 It's a new odd couple. Dude, that's what we said. 0:04:50.570 --> 0:04:53.289 This is Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon. I'm Jack Lemmon, 0:04:53.310 --> 0:04:55.240 you're Walter. That's it, dude. It's the new odd couple. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.080 It would still work. Dude, even if we did a 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.580 micro type series. I'm done. You know what I mean? 0:04:59.740 --> 0:05:02.480 A vertical. A vertical. I am absolutely done. Who knows 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.620 if these things will last? It's the flavor of the month. 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:07.620 Jack and Eric. Who knows? Nobody's figured out how to 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.770 make money off of them. I love it. But they 0:05:10.830 --> 0:05:12.109 are good for marketing. 0:05:12.210 --> 0:05:13.030 But it would be fun. 0:05:13.150 --> 0:05:13.609 Jack and Eric. 0:05:13.630 --> 0:05:14.010 Nothing else. 0:05:14.070 --> 0:05:16.270 I think we should do it. The Jared. If anything, 0:05:16.290 --> 0:05:20.110 it's like the new YouTube in the sense that These days, 0:05:20.150 --> 0:05:22.750 like as you see with Obsession and all these things 0:05:22.770 --> 0:05:24.410 that are coming, I mean, that's kind of the new 0:05:25.180 --> 0:05:27.810 groundlings when you talk about comedy, the new spot where 0:05:27.830 --> 0:05:31.599 they bring out shows. So maybe if we even start, 0:05:31.820 --> 0:05:33.400 maybe it's like build it and they will come. Let's 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:34.920 do a YouTube show. I'll do it. You know what 0:05:35.020 --> 0:05:38.040 I mean? I'm totally down, by the way. We got 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.539 two sitcom directors right here. Dude, I mean, yeah, of course. 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.279 You know what I mean? I'm saying, though, with this team, 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.900 come on. We don't have to even outsource anything. But 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:46.420 this is the first time I've heard about you guys. 0:05:46.500 --> 0:05:48.940 You're doing a show right now that's like a sitcom? Yes, yeah. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.600 So are you improvising it? It's all improvised. So we 0:05:52.620 --> 0:05:55.780 just have like one topic, and we just shoot, and 0:05:55.820 --> 0:05:57.679 then we condense it to a minute and 20 seconds. 0:05:57.700 --> 0:06:01.620 We have like 90 episodes. That's so fun. Shout it 0:06:01.660 --> 0:06:05.550 on Saturday. Shout it on Saturday. It's great. Let me 0:06:05.570 --> 0:06:08.650 tell you. It's really good stuff. But yeah, so, you know, 0:06:08.690 --> 0:06:11.210 and like I said, nobody has figured it out. We 0:06:11.230 --> 0:06:13.650 just know that there's been only, there's been a lot 0:06:13.690 --> 0:06:18.300 of the drama, like the salacious type vertical stuff, but 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.339 there's only been like three or four comedies. And Kevin 0:06:21.380 --> 0:06:23.500 Hart just jumped in with like a big deal to 0:06:23.540 --> 0:06:25.860 do a bunch. So, we're all trying to figure out 0:06:25.940 --> 0:06:29.640 if it's something that can in essence be monetized or 0:06:30.250 --> 0:06:31.710 we don't know, we don't know. But for us, it 0:06:31.750 --> 0:06:33.810 was just like, you know what? We actually were shooting 0:06:33.870 --> 0:06:37.070 something else. And we were like, we just were like, 0:06:37.350 --> 0:06:40.190 we don't see it as long form because it felt 0:06:40.270 --> 0:06:43.210 too reality show for us. So we were like, let's 0:06:43.230 --> 0:06:45.210 just take all the footage, see if we can make 0:06:45.270 --> 0:06:47.010 something kind of zany and off the wall and see 0:06:47.029 --> 0:06:48.860 if we can just cut them into shorts and see 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.460 if that's kind of what we can do with it. 0:06:50.779 --> 0:06:52.140 So we just went with it. We're seeing how it's going. 0:06:52.180 --> 0:06:55.230 It's actually going very well And the graphic novel's great. 0:06:55.250 --> 0:06:56.270 Have you guys seen the graphic novel? 0:06:56.390 --> 0:06:58.950 No. So it's the Lawrence Brothers Detective Agency, and at 0:06:58.970 --> 0:07:02.690 the start of the first episode, I'm abducted from a convention. 0:07:02.810 --> 0:07:03.940 Yep. Oh, nice. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.380 And so they come to try to find, and then 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.320 you find out it's a whole, like, there's this great story, 0:07:07.339 --> 0:07:09.200 but it's really fun. The thing that I love so 0:07:09.220 --> 0:07:13.120 much about it is you guys just... bash each other 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.750 in the funniest ways. Like just brother. 0:07:15.870 --> 0:07:18.370 It's really funny. Yeah. You funny yourselves the whole way. 0:07:18.390 --> 0:07:21.550 Being one of three yourself. Totally understand. 0:07:21.650 --> 0:07:23.790 Oh my God. Yeah. But the same dynamic. Yeah. Well, 0:07:23.810 --> 0:07:26.290 that's what, that's what works, right? That's our bread and butter. It's, 0:07:26.490 --> 0:07:30.480 it's that, you know, three siblings, very relatable, very family oriented. 0:07:30.570 --> 0:07:32.580 And everybody, if you've had a sibling or a cousin, 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.060 they all kind of, you can relate to it. It's funny, 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.160 when we step outside of that and we try to like, 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.680 you know, do other things, it's like, people are like, okay, 0:07:39.740 --> 0:07:42.520 but you know, they're not, they really, there's just something, yeah, 0:07:42.540 --> 0:07:44.930 there's something about that that is just special and it's 0:07:45.070 --> 0:07:47.590 even above us as individuals and we get it and 0:07:47.610 --> 0:07:50.450 we go with it and we're very self-deprecating. We don't 0:07:50.490 --> 0:07:53.370 take ourselves seriously ever. Yeah. You can't, right? I was 0:07:53.390 --> 0:07:55.250 going to say, you can't. No, you can't do that. 0:07:55.270 --> 0:07:56.510 Especially in this day and age. So yeah, it's the 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.420 same thing, you know, but there is like an underlying 0:07:58.500 --> 0:08:02.020 current to the novel that I think find very interesting. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.060 And it's that metaphor of like child stars and how, 0:08:05.300 --> 0:08:09.000 you know, we've seen this, we're very blessed. This is 0:08:09.060 --> 0:08:13.050 kind of a success story for all of us individually, 0:08:13.090 --> 0:08:16.010 just because we've made it out like with our lives 0:08:16.030 --> 0:08:18.890 and with our sanity is a success story in its own. 0:08:19.190 --> 0:08:21.050 The fact that we're still sitting here, the fact that 0:08:21.090 --> 0:08:24.360 we're still working, It's like, I mean, this is like, 0:08:24.540 --> 0:08:26.780 this is a very, very rare thing. And that's kind 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.120 of the undercurrent too of it is like there is 0:08:29.140 --> 0:08:31.240 this lost child star element and then we just take 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.110 it to a comedy version of it because that's how 0:08:33.190 --> 0:08:36.990 my family always deals with serious topics. We try to, 0:08:37.210 --> 0:08:39.590 you know, find the levity in things. Yeah. And so 0:08:39.610 --> 0:08:42.920 that's what we did with this. But it's very 90s nostalgia. 0:08:43.179 --> 0:08:45.740 You know, there's a lot of like the artwork is 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.890 very Scooby-Doo. It's awesome. It's like 18 meets the 90s. 0:08:47.900 --> 0:08:50.219 You got a mystery van. We have a mystery van. Yeah, 0:08:50.300 --> 0:08:53.160 it's awesome. Exactly. There's like slime and all that kind 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:53.559 of stuff. 0:08:53.580 --> 0:08:53.930 I love it. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.050 And, you know, it's cool. I've really been touched. There's 0:08:56.070 --> 0:08:58.770 been a bunch of kids who have been reaching out 0:08:59.630 --> 0:09:02.870 via either socials and stuff where– they're holding up the 0:09:02.910 --> 0:09:04.550 book and they're, they really liked the book. And that 0:09:04.570 --> 0:09:07.130 to me is like really special. Yeah. You see kids 0:09:07.210 --> 0:09:09.470 and stuff. It's cool to be involved. Yeah. It was interesting. 0:09:09.510 --> 0:09:11.400 And that's, that's cool. But yeah, you know, trying to 0:09:11.410 --> 0:09:13.400 stay busy like you guys trying to, trying to keep 0:09:13.420 --> 0:09:16.900 the train going, trying to just continue this, this whole 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:18.720 thing and not fall off. Doing what you love. Doing 0:09:18.740 --> 0:09:19.100 what you love. 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.260 Yeah. Matt, the world knows you as an actor, but 0:09:22.340 --> 0:09:24.400 as long as we have known you, which is since 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:25.920 you and I were teenagers. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:26.360 Yeah. Yeah. 0:09:26.700 --> 0:09:30.120 You have been amazing. Very into reptiles. 0:09:30.260 --> 0:09:30.520 Oh, yeah. 0:09:30.570 --> 0:09:32.570 When and how did that start for you? 0:09:33.179 --> 0:09:38.179 That started as early as my memories can go. I 0:09:38.220 --> 0:09:41.939 think I was born that way. I don't know what 0:09:41.980 --> 0:09:45.569 it is, but when I see a reptile or amphibian 0:09:45.900 --> 0:09:51.190 either in its natural habitat or in captivity showing natural behaviors, 0:09:51.309 --> 0:09:53.530 I get the same feeling when you see like a 0:09:53.590 --> 0:09:57.870 baby puppy or a kitten. I get this really overwhelming 0:09:58.190 --> 0:10:01.560 sense of just love and affection for the natural world 0:10:01.580 --> 0:10:05.380 when I see that. And they're also incredibly important species 0:10:05.420 --> 0:10:07.750 when it comes to the food chain. They're called canary 0:10:07.770 --> 0:10:09.670 in the coal mine species. And the reason for that 0:10:09.710 --> 0:10:12.130 is they are great indicators for the environment in which 0:10:12.170 --> 0:10:14.570 they're in. And we, you know, as we see our 0:10:14.630 --> 0:10:17.190 planet is changing, you know, whether we like it or 0:10:17.230 --> 0:10:20.670 not for the past decade, I mean, hundreds of millions 0:10:20.710 --> 0:10:23.510 of years, we've been very blessed with the helicine era, 0:10:23.530 --> 0:10:26.720 which means the planet has not wobbled either a degree 0:10:26.929 --> 0:10:30.400 Celsius plus or minus, which has given us this very 0:10:30.500 --> 0:10:33.760 stable climate, which has allowed mammals to really take over. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.400 But things are changing. We are now wobbling and... I 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.160 don't know if anybody truly knows why. I know that 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.220 as humans, we are the apex species on the planet 0:10:44.870 --> 0:10:49.210 for now. AI, we don't know. But for now. Until 0:10:49.250 --> 0:10:53.110 the robots take over. Until the robots take over. But 0:10:53.570 --> 0:10:56.310 for now. And I think, you know, as we were 0:10:56.330 --> 0:10:58.670 saying to Steve Irwin, I think this is even more 0:10:58.730 --> 0:11:02.690 important right now that we are the shepherds of this planet, 0:11:02.830 --> 0:11:06.429 of its natural spaces, because I disagree with people like 0:11:06.470 --> 0:11:10.270 Bill Gates who talk about, Everything will be solved with technology. 0:11:10.429 --> 0:11:13.030 I think you can't beat biology. I think this planet 0:11:13.050 --> 0:11:17.150 has had over 9 billion or 8 billion years to perfect. 0:11:17.770 --> 0:11:19.450 And it goes way longer than that. I think the 0:11:19.550 --> 0:11:24.170 universe's expression is life. I think the whole system is alive. 0:11:24.220 --> 0:11:26.420 I think it's the Fibonacci sequence where, I don't know 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:27.559 if you guys know that, but if you take a 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.580 fern leaf and you take a piece, it mimics life. 0:11:29.870 --> 0:11:31.990 Peace mimics all the way down to a cellular level. 0:11:32.030 --> 0:11:34.560 And I think that's what this planet is in reflection 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.180 of our universe. It's a smaller piece that reflects the 0:11:37.220 --> 0:11:40.400 greater of the universe in itself. Everything is a living system. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.939 And now that we are its greatest expression, at least 0:11:42.980 --> 0:11:45.400 that we know of on this planet, it is our job. 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.120 Because I think if we work with nature, you can't 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.650 beat that. You can't beat biology. You just can't. I 0:11:50.690 --> 0:11:52.210 don't think technology will ever beat biology. Well, it's clearly 0:11:52.230 --> 0:11:55.110 a symbiotic relationship between the earth and everything. Love that word. 0:11:55.130 --> 0:11:58.490 Perfect choice of words. Symbiotic relationship. Yeah, that's true. And anyway, 0:11:58.750 --> 0:12:00.910 back to reptiles and amphibians. That's why I love them 0:12:00.970 --> 0:12:03.050 so much is I also love the environments of which 0:12:03.070 --> 0:12:05.130 they're from. And they're an incredible indicator. I mean, they're 0:12:05.150 --> 0:12:08.250 from the most extreme environments, whether it's the Gobi deserts 0:12:08.630 --> 0:12:11.300 or it's the tropical rainforest or it's the islands in 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:15.219 the Caribbean or it's Southeast Asia. The environments of which 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:19.400 they inhabit are just the most extreme, exotic, incredible, you know, 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.520 expressions of life on this planet. So I love them. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.440 I love the environments of which they come from. And 0:12:24.460 --> 0:12:27.360 they're an integral part of, to that environment. So I, 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.760 and yes, it goes back. I, you know, Joe always 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:31.620 says to my older brothers always tease me because I, I, 0:12:32.020 --> 0:12:33.809 ever since I was a little, little kid, I, I 0:12:33.830 --> 0:12:35.870 would jump into creeks and I would come home dirty 0:12:35.890 --> 0:12:38.890 and he hates me for that. He was a very clean, 0:12:38.950 --> 0:12:41.109 you know, guy and, and, and he doesn't like the 0:12:41.150 --> 0:12:42.590 dirt and the mud and stuff, but you know, I'd 0:12:42.630 --> 0:12:45.230 go and collect salamanders. I, I, and I started early. 0:12:45.250 --> 0:12:47.709 I would recreate the pond systems in my backyard. So 0:12:47.750 --> 0:12:50.550 I'd build a pond, I'd create a stream waterway system. 0:12:50.870 --> 0:12:54.290 I'd bring in the crayfish and the, you know, the polywogs, 0:12:54.309 --> 0:12:56.729 which are tadpoles. And I, I, I'd bring it all 0:12:56.870 --> 0:12:59.770 in and then I'd watch how the ecosystem would fill 0:12:59.809 --> 0:13:02.290 in around it. Then you'd have all the native birds 0:13:02.590 --> 0:13:05.890 and the deer and everything would come to your little environment. 0:13:05.910 --> 0:13:08.160 And I believe that everybody can do that in their yard. 0:13:08.179 --> 0:13:10.380 And that's kind of my, my main mission is to say, Hey, 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.199 you know, you got a yard there instead of covering 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.460 it with grass and putting all these ornate plants from 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:19.080 all over the world. Bring in some native wildlife. Put 0:13:19.140 --> 0:13:21.100 in a little stream system if you can. I know 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.660 you have that. I've always brought that up to you. 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.780 I've always been like, dude, that's so cool. You can 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.580 do these little things, and if we all did these 0:13:28.620 --> 0:13:32.380 little things, you can create these little connections between these 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:36.380 fragmented environments in your yard, and it really helps you 0:13:36.420 --> 0:13:38.939 because I believe that everything is frequency. As we see 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.710 now when we're studying, even with medicines, a lot of 0:13:41.730 --> 0:13:44.179 things have to do with our body, our frequencies. I 0:13:44.210 --> 0:13:45.670 don't know if a lot of people know this, but 0:13:45.750 --> 0:13:49.890 plants and animals are very responsive to music. And in particular, 0:13:49.929 --> 0:13:52.770 classical music. When you play classical music for cows, you 0:13:52.790 --> 0:13:55.250 get better cheese. When you play classical music in a 0:13:55.309 --> 0:14:00.990 grower's greenhouse, you get better wheat. Dude, I've been smoking 0:14:01.010 --> 0:14:08.650 Mozart for years, bro. Smoking? Shit. Roll up the beaker. Smoking? Smoking? Exactly. 0:14:08.690 --> 0:14:13.380 Hell yes. Well, yeah. Actually, yes. It's a good indication. 0:14:13.460 --> 0:14:16.800 I mean, yeah. And it's crazy, too. Plants and trees, 0:14:16.860 --> 0:14:18.459 it's not just like the old tree hugger of the 0:14:18.500 --> 0:14:21.530 70s things. These are sentient beings. People don't realize these 0:14:21.570 --> 0:14:25.410 things have root systems that... literally span the globe and 0:14:25.430 --> 0:14:28.350 they communicate and they warn other plants when insects are 0:14:28.390 --> 0:14:32.280 biting one plant. They're incredible species that we really need 0:14:32.300 --> 0:14:33.480 to take a different look at. 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:38.400 It's funny, I was just in Aspen, my son-in-law had 0:14:38.420 --> 0:14:40.040 a place there, my stepdaughter had a place there and 0:14:40.060 --> 0:14:41.750 we were there and we took a tour there and 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.470 they were talking about how the Aspen trees, when they're 0:14:43.490 --> 0:14:45.710 all wiped out by fire, all the roots are still 0:14:45.730 --> 0:14:49.150 there for thousands of miles And so everything grows back together. 0:14:49.290 --> 0:14:52.540 Like it's all just one giant organism, essentially. It's really 0:14:52.580 --> 0:14:53.820 interesting to learn about this stuff. 0:14:53.860 --> 0:14:56.020 Yeah, it's like, you know, when you watch a movie 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.500 like Avatar, I mean, James Cameron, he's a naturalist and 0:14:59.540 --> 0:15:02.120 a real scientist at heart. And, you know, even though 0:15:02.140 --> 0:15:04.570 it's the movie version of it, that tree of life, 0:15:05.010 --> 0:15:07.810 that was just his expression of writing his understanding that 0:15:08.090 --> 0:15:11.690 there really is more to it that we give credit to. 0:15:12.150 --> 0:15:12.530 That's cool. 0:15:12.580 --> 0:15:14.180 When did you get your first lizard? 0:15:15.060 --> 0:15:18.280 First lizard? Oh, I'll never forget it, actually. My brother 0:15:18.380 --> 0:15:21.120 booked a movie in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and I was 0:15:21.180 --> 0:15:23.500 so excited. This was like I was about probably six 0:15:23.540 --> 0:15:26.540 or seven years old, and I went to Fort Lauderdale, 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.630 and there were these, at that point, they're not there anymore, 0:15:30.050 --> 0:15:31.730 but there were a lot of green anolis. The green 0:15:31.750 --> 0:15:34.109 anolis have been pushed out by non-native species like the 0:15:34.150 --> 0:15:39.920 curly tails. Anyway, I actually caught a pair. and I 0:15:40.060 --> 0:15:42.880 smuggled them in my armpits, nobody knew, not even my parents, 0:15:43.780 --> 0:15:46.820 back to LA, and they didn't check kids back then. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.220 Pre 9-11. You're a perfect lizard mule. When you say 0:15:51.780 --> 0:15:54.210 smuggle them in your armpits. In my armpits. Did you 0:15:54.250 --> 0:15:57.350 wrap them in something? Yeah, I put them in like, okay, 0:15:57.670 --> 0:16:02.150 so you know the hair dryer bags in hotel, like 0:16:02.230 --> 0:16:05.070 soft bags? So I, we had a couple of hotel 0:16:05.130 --> 0:16:06.730 rooms that we were staying in and I took the 0:16:06.770 --> 0:16:09.460 bags off of the air conditioners. I put them in 0:16:09.500 --> 0:16:11.390 there and I, I did it right. I separated the 0:16:11.430 --> 0:16:12.840 bags so they would have air. How did you know 0:16:12.860 --> 0:16:14.400 to do it right? I mean, how did you, have 0:16:14.420 --> 0:16:16.460 you read about this? No, this was just kind of, 0:16:16.500 --> 0:16:20.000 like I said, I, I, I was born with a, 0:16:20.020 --> 0:16:22.859 I understand that. I understand their, their biology, but also 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.680 stand like their behavior and when they move and color 0:16:25.820 --> 0:16:29.180 and eye movements and, They really do speak to you. 0:16:29.220 --> 0:16:31.780 Head bobs, like you can tell. And I started to 0:16:31.820 --> 0:16:35.730 really understand that. I was obsessed with PBS and the 0:16:35.770 --> 0:16:38.910 natural world, like the Stauffer brothers back in the day, 0:16:39.290 --> 0:16:41.790 Marty Stauffer. And I was just obsessed with this. That's 0:16:42.010 --> 0:16:43.930 all I consumed. I didn't really want to go to school. 0:16:43.950 --> 0:16:47.210 I didn't really care about the programs in school. I 0:16:47.330 --> 0:16:49.310 just cared about this kind of stuff. So from a 0:16:49.390 --> 0:16:51.090 very early age, that's all I did. I had all 0:16:51.110 --> 0:16:54.530 the VHSs, all the magazines, everything I could find, every book. 0:16:55.250 --> 0:16:57.580 everything i could find on it like i actually i 0:16:57.620 --> 0:16:59.800 exhausted to the point where i was out of you 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.860 know books and material to research so that's just that's 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:05.859 just my makeup that's just who i am so i 0:17:05.900 --> 0:17:09.000 got them back and i bred them for years to 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:10.800 come and they were my they were my my first 0:17:11.109 --> 0:17:12.950 and then i uh i wanted i really wanted a 0:17:12.990 --> 0:17:15.230 puppy and my mom she still regrets it to this 0:17:15.250 --> 0:17:18.230 day she made me give up She didn't think I 0:17:18.270 --> 0:17:20.030 could take care of both. She still says at this age, 0:17:20.050 --> 0:17:22.449 it was her biggest mistake because once I got the dog, 0:17:22.730 --> 0:17:26.270 then I really went crazy. Because now I had the puppy. Right. 0:17:26.330 --> 0:17:28.359 And she had really no control because I would just 0:17:28.380 --> 0:17:30.540 do it all outdoors. And I started, I would never 0:17:30.580 --> 0:17:32.439 bring him inside. And so they didn't even know that 0:17:32.460 --> 0:17:35.320 I had this, started this whole menagerie outdoors with these 0:17:35.420 --> 0:17:37.800 animals that they had no idea I even had. But 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.080 she realizes it now. She was like, she says to 0:17:40.100 --> 0:17:41.820 me every day, I'm so sorry. I had no idea 0:17:41.859 --> 0:17:44.170 this was something that... clearly was never going to be 0:17:44.250 --> 0:17:48.470 a lifelong passion. Cause she was like, I think it's 0:17:48.490 --> 0:17:50.230 the only one I missed, Matt. I'm sorry. It's the 0:17:50.270 --> 0:17:51.630 only one I missed. And I was like, it's okay. 0:17:51.650 --> 0:17:53.690 You know, I understand like my family, I was the, 0:17:53.750 --> 0:17:56.300 I was the outlier. My family, my dad liked horses, 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.199 but still like, you know, and my dad appreciated the 0:17:59.260 --> 0:18:01.560 outdoors and he, and he was very accepting that I, 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.379 he would always take me. Like I have great fond 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.580 memories of when we first got here to LA, my 0:18:05.619 --> 0:18:07.479 dad would ask me what I want to do. Cause 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:08.859 my brother and my mom right there were always on 0:18:08.940 --> 0:18:11.390 sets to start out with. So he was like, what 0:18:11.470 --> 0:18:12.649 do you want to do today? And I was like, 0:18:12.690 --> 0:18:13.850 after school, I really want to go just go to 0:18:13.869 --> 0:18:16.169 Griffith Park. Just please take me to Griffith Park. And 0:18:16.190 --> 0:18:18.070 we'd go and we'd start catching the blue bellies and 0:18:18.090 --> 0:18:21.250 the alligator lizards. And I'd start there with breeding and 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:27.060 studying the environment, everything from humidity to max temperatures, minus temperatures, 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.859 the substrate, the soil, what level in the- Okay, I 0:18:29.859 --> 0:18:31.800 have a question. How does it catch a lizard? Like 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.310 in the really basic terms. Basic terms. So there are, 0:18:35.390 --> 0:18:38.889