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Speaker 1: And if we ever got a lot, a lot to
Speaker 1: talk about here today, Mark Romandi on Twitter. A w
Speaker 1: star Jeff Hardy arrested Monday in Florida on three charges,
Speaker 1: the most significant a d u I, its third offense
Speaker 1: in the last ten years p online court records that
Speaker 1: is a third degree felony. Hardy is currently in custody bond.
Speaker 1: Hardy's first court appearance scheduled for one thirty local time Tuesday.
Speaker 1: The other charges driving while licenses canceled, suspended or revoked,
Speaker 1: violating restrictions on his driver's license. Both of those are misdemeanors.
Speaker 1: How do you schedule for a tag team title ladder
Speaker 1: match with his brother Matt on a W Dynamite on
Speaker 1: Wednesday in St. Louis also said the headline Triple as
Speaker 1: Big Triple Media Stadium Show and T one on Saturday
Speaker 1: tag team match with Matt Noward in the stats of
Speaker 1: these matches. This story is just now breaking. So as
Speaker 1: of this moment, there has been nothing official from a
Speaker 1: W But I would presume that a there ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be a ladder match performance by Jeff Hardy on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll find out what happens. But this
Speaker 1: is not good obviously in a lot of ways. I
Speaker 1: mean the Tammy Sich situation. I mean, this guy cannot
Speaker 1: be driving, absolutely cannot be driving. And it's amazing when
Speaker 1: you think about his departure from w W E when
Speaker 1: he walked out of that match, and they immediately assumed
Speaker 1: that he must have been on something, and he and
Speaker 1: his brother and his family, they were immediately like, you know,
Speaker 1: released the drug test, release a drug test, release a
Speaker 1: drug test, because apparently wasn't actually on anything. He just
Speaker 1: was done with it. And he walked out and then
Speaker 1: he goes to a w and now here we are
Speaker 1: another d u I arrest, third in ten years. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just the beginning of everything we got to talk
Speaker 1: about here from this insane weekend. So back in a
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Speaker 1: Observer Alive. Mike'snumber VV and not here. He's attempting to connect.
Speaker 1: If it does not work, I'll try to reset everything
Speaker 1: after this break. But I'm not sure how much you'd
Speaker 1: say in this segment anyway, because there's a lot obviously
Speaker 1: is noted the situation with Jeff Hardy, third d Y
Speaker 1: in ten years, third degree felony bond court appearance scheduled
Speaker 1: for Tuesday. Charges driving while licenses canceled, suspended, revoked, violating
Speaker 1: restrictions on the driver's license. I I don't no. I mean,
Speaker 1: as everyone's talking about here today, there's Uber, there's lift,
Speaker 1: there's Taxis, there's multiple people here on the chat noted
Speaker 1: you're Jeff Hardy. You can get a ride. So as noted,
Speaker 1: nothing official from a w WE. May hear something during
Speaker 1: the show. I don't know that they're going to release him,
Speaker 1: but I would not be surprised if they released him.
Speaker 1: So we will see what happens as we get going
Speaker 1: here today. Not the only release this weekend. Two times
Speaker 1: Troy two times Donovan released from w w E a
Speaker 1: quote polishy policy issue and uh he was told I
Speaker 1: guess too, lay low and maybe in a year we
Speaker 1: can do this again. But he confirmed the release in
Speaker 1: the tweet Monday morning. Thank you to everybody who has
Speaker 1: reached out. Mistakes happened, lessons are learned, A bump in
Speaker 1: the road does not define me, though, I will be back.
Speaker 1: So now we just have Stacks and everybody in Legato
Speaker 1: del Phantasma who is now part of Tony d'angelo's crew.
Speaker 1: Uh an x t uh. This hasn't really been much
Speaker 1: of a story, but it should be a story. At
Speaker 1: XT has started touring again, which is good because everybody there,
Speaker 1: you know, the Tony d'angelo's and basically everybody with the
Speaker 1: exception of Eroderick Strong's and such, you know, they need
Speaker 1: they need to get matches in, they need to work
Speaker 1: they need to get on the road, and that began
Speaker 1: this weekend and everybody's getting an opportunity to get more
Speaker 1: ringtime in front of a live crowd. And uh and
Speaker 1: Tony D'Angelo Uh this weekend went down with what appeared
Speaker 1: to be a shoulder injury, and as of right now,
Speaker 1: it appears he's fine. Uh. There were essentially two stories
Speaker 1: out there, one story that he was working the injury,
Speaker 1: the other that he was injured, but it actually wasn't
Speaker 1: a bad injury at all. But he appears to be fine.
Speaker 1: So so he'll be back on on on the show
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, presumably. And on the subject of that, By
Speaker 1: the way, Brian Danielson finally did do an interview and
Speaker 1: admitted that he worked the entire thing when he felt
Speaker 1: Actually it wasn't It wasn't Danielson. It was somebody else
Speaker 1: who who did the interview. I can't remember, but anyway,
Speaker 1: they they also confirmed that Brian Danielson never was stuck
Speaker 1: between the ramp and the ring. Uh. They claimed that
Speaker 1: he uh, he actually did slip, and then once he
Speaker 1: slipped and got stuck, uh, he decided he was going
Speaker 1: to work it from there, which I mean that may
Speaker 1: very well be what happened. I I kind of was
Speaker 1: under the oppression that the entire thing, from start to
Speaker 1: finish was it was a work. But suffice to say,
Speaker 1: he didn't really get stuck, he didn't really injure his leg.
Speaker 1: He just decided that he was gonna go with it
Speaker 1: and and he did so. Anyway, he's okay, and Uh,
Speaker 1: Tony DeAngelo appears to be okay. So that is all
Speaker 1: good news. Uh. Lot of shows this weekend. We can
Speaker 1: talk about Rampage later, SmackDown later, both good shows. Uh
Speaker 1: Dominion as well, and there were a number of title changes.
Speaker 1: At the Dominion show. Jay White won the i w
Speaker 1: g P World Heavyweight Championship from Okada after hitting a
Speaker 1: blade runner, And so that means that it is not
Speaker 1: going to be Hangman versus Ocada in a a singles
Speaker 1: match for the title. It is going to be we
Speaker 1: don't know, but probably probably a triple threat or a
Speaker 1: four way. My guess is it will probably end up
Speaker 1: being Ocada, j White, Hangman Page, and Adam Cole in
Speaker 1: a four way for the i w g P World
Speaker 1: Heavyweight Championship. But we will find out more on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: But it's definitely not gonna be the singles match for
Speaker 1: the title of Hangman Versus Ocada. We also had will
Speaker 1: Osprey him meeting Sonata to win the vacant I w
Speaker 1: g P United States Heavyweight Championship, and it's a weird
Speaker 1: story because Juice Robinson had won the title, Juice Robinson
Speaker 1: was the champion. Juice Robinson then went down with appendicitis. Then,
Speaker 1: for reasons I cannot explain, they announced that he was
Speaker 1: going to defend the title at Dominion, but then it
Speaker 1: turned out he wasn't ready due to appendicitis. But then
Speaker 1: because he had been billed as defending the title, now
Speaker 1: because these are the rules in Japan, now they have
Speaker 1: to strip him of the title, So they just never
Speaker 1: announced that he was going to defend the title. He
Speaker 1: would still be the champion right now, so presumably they
Speaker 1: wanted to do a storyline where he was stripped of
Speaker 1: the title and then obviously he's going to uh to
Speaker 1: come back to fight for it when he is better.
Speaker 1: But the new champion is will Osprey. He defeated Sonata.
Speaker 1: We also have a new never open weight champion, Carl
Speaker 1: Anders and beat Tomatanka to win the title. So this
Speaker 1: is the first ever singles title for Carl Anderson in
Speaker 1: New Japan coming off COVID by the way, So so
Speaker 1: that is that we have new i w g P
Speaker 1: Heavyweight tag team champions Great o'con and Jeff Cobb beat
Speaker 1: Bad Luck Folly and Chase Owens. So probably some sort
Speaker 1: of match involving Great Ocon Jeff Cobb FTR something like
Speaker 1: that at the Forbidden Door pay per view. And then
Speaker 1: for the provisional title, it was the King of Pro
Speaker 1: Wresting provisional title and whoever got the most counts in
Speaker 1: ten minutes was going to end up the winner, and
Speaker 1: Shingo beat tai Chi And this match actually was a
Speaker 1: pretty great match. And if you've watched a lot of
Speaker 1: the King of Pro Wrestling title matches, they are not
Speaker 1: usually great matches. But I think the key to this
Speaker 1: one is they had a had a ten minute time limit,
Speaker 1: so they put the clock up on the screen they
Speaker 1: only had ten minutes. They actually didn't start going for
Speaker 1: pinfalls immediately. They kind of built up to a little
Speaker 1: bit and then you know, they had the score on
Speaker 1: the bottom, and it was funny because the announcers did
Speaker 1: not trust this score keeping that was on the screen,
Speaker 1: so you know, Chris Charleston's furiously writing down how many
Speaker 1: pinfall attempts and numbers each guy had, But it actually
Speaker 1: was it was exciting, it was well worked, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: if you normally avoid the kop W championship matches, that
Speaker 1: one actually was pretty good. And then obviously the big
Speaker 1: one because as a W title ramifications, Hiroshi Tanahashi in
Speaker 1: fact beat Hiroke go To. So it's gonna be uh
Speaker 1: tana Hashi versus Moxley for the interim title coming up
Speaker 1: at the Forbidden Door pay per view, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's a spoiler, but I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure that Moxley is winning that interim championship. I I
Speaker 1: thought that, like if it were me, I put the
Speaker 1: belt on Tanahashi, But now I'm not sure to put
Speaker 1: the belt on Tanashi because the whole reason that they
Speaker 1: have created this interim title is because c M. Punk
Speaker 1: has uh uh surgery on his lower leg, which apparently
Speaker 1: that was something Jim Ross came up with on the
Speaker 1: fly as he was doing commentary, because I guess they
Speaker 1: use that terminology like in the college football. But anyway,
Speaker 1: uh apparently broke his foot. That's what's Max Caster said
Speaker 1: at least, But anyway, he's out of action for a while,
Speaker 1: and since he's he's unavailable, they're creating an interim title.
Speaker 1: So the issue is if Tanahashi wins that interim title,
Speaker 1: he has already been announced for the G One and
Speaker 1: that's gonna be six weeks exclusively in Japan. So I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if you're going to create an interim tie
Speaker 1: because ce him, Punk is going to be unavailable and
Speaker 1: then give it to a guy who's going to be
Speaker 1: unavailable working the G One. So my presumption is this
Speaker 1: means that Maxy is getting into the champion. But we
Speaker 1: can go over the full lineup for the G One
Speaker 1: after the break. There's hight entrants, four blocks, so everyone's
Speaker 1: essentially gonna have six matches, but they're over there for
Speaker 1: six weeks for the tour, so it's gonna average out
Speaker 1: to about a match a week, although obviously they got
Speaker 1: the stuff at the end of the tour as well.
Speaker 1: But the big name, we all know, the big name
Speaker 1: of the G One this year my main man, Filthy
Speaker 1: Tom Lawler. So anyway, we're getting all this after the break,
Speaker 1: try and get sent for Vivian back in a moment
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Speaker 1: Observer Live. Still trying to get Mike connected, but I'm
Speaker 1: here and if we can't get him, maybe you'll be
Speaker 1: here as well. I'll open up them phone lines. But
Speaker 1: let's get into the rest of this news here. This
Speaker 1: is the lineup for the g One. What are guy
Speaker 1: sinking of this lineup? We got Okada, Tanahashi, Nighto, go
Speaker 1: to Toma Tonga, Shingo, Chase Owens, bad Luck, Folly you Jero, Evil,
Speaker 1: Filthy Tom Lawler, who got a huge pop by the
Speaker 1: way from the crowd, even though they're not supposed to
Speaker 1: hop they did. They gasped, Juice Robinson, Jonah, Yoshi Hashi,
Speaker 1: Toru Yano, is she E, Jeff Cobb, Everyone's main man,
Speaker 1: the Great o'kan Well, Osprey, Aaron Hannare, Sonata j White, Kenta,
Speaker 1: l Phantasmo, Taichi, Zack Saber Jr. Land Sarcho got the
Speaker 1: biggest pop of anybody, and David Finlay that's the lineup
Speaker 1: for the G One. What are you gonna think of
Speaker 1: this lineup? Dave was somewhat let I don't know if
Speaker 1: let down is the right word. I don't want to
Speaker 1: speak for Dave anyway. I didn't think it was the
Speaker 1: greatest G One lineup of all time. And I would
Speaker 1: say with you know, there's no uh Ibushi in there,
Speaker 1: there's no Minor Suzuki. But you know what, if you
Speaker 1: look at all of these names, even the ones that
Speaker 1: aren't like big names like David Finlay is an awesome
Speaker 1: rest lur and uh you know, I've seen nothing but
Speaker 1: great matches from Jonah, New Japan Strong, and uh. I
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, it's still gonna
Speaker 1: be a pretty damn good tournament, especially because everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: get more time to rest up between matches, so you
Speaker 1: know they're gonna go out there and they're just gonna
Speaker 1: go nuts. And uh, as noted there's going to be
Speaker 1: four blocks and uh yeah, largest number of entrance into
Speaker 1: the G One ever. So that's the lineup there. We
Speaker 1: also have details of the qualifying match for the A
Speaker 1: E W All Atlantic four away coming up at Forbidden Door.
Speaker 1: If you were not paying attention. There's a new belt
Speaker 1: in a w the All Atlantic Championship, and we got
Speaker 1: an exclusive match from wrestlers live on an island in
Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean. So what they're gonna do is there's
Speaker 1: there's four matches. The winners are all going to a
Speaker 1: four way. So, uh, it's going to be two qualifying
Speaker 1: matches which will take place on the June New Japan
Speaker 1: road card in Korakin. The first will be Ishi versus
Speaker 1: Yoshinobu Kanamaru and uh hone Ma against Clarke Connors. The
Speaker 1: winners of those matches will then face off the following
Speaker 1: night at Corrican Hall. The winner will then qualify for
Speaker 1: the four away match at Forbidden Door on June in Chicago. Now,
Speaker 1: I think it's either got to be Clark Honnors or
Speaker 1: is she okay? And I love Clark Honnors, but we
Speaker 1: cannot have a Forbidden Door pay per view without Tomo
Speaker 1: Hero is She? We just can't. So let's I got
Speaker 1: another match for that guy. If he loses, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's got to be in this match. Now, I
Speaker 1: could see them doing a different match with him and
Speaker 1: putting Clark Connors in the four way I could see
Speaker 1: them doing that. But for a W We've got we
Speaker 1: had Pocket beating Buddy Matthews, so he's in. And then
Speaker 1: this week on Dynamite We've got Mirror versus Ethan Page
Speaker 1: and then the final match will end up with Penta
Speaker 1: versus Malachi Black and of course the pay per view
Speaker 1: June United Center Chicago, John Moxley versus Tanahashi a w
Speaker 1: Championship interim championship will be determined on that show. It
Speaker 1: is not official, but Zach Saber Jr. Has challenged Brian
Speaker 1: Danielson for the show. It was a backstage interview after Dominion.
Speaker 1: He said, American Dragon, can you take some time out
Speaker 1: of your busy golfing schedule at the Blackpool Country Club
Speaker 1: to find out who the best technical wrestler in the
Speaker 1: world is? But I'll tell you now, Darling. I can't
Speaker 1: say what he said, but he says it's him, So
Speaker 1: of course, the Best Technical Wrestler Award is named after
Speaker 1: Brian Danielson in the Observer Awards, and he won the
Speaker 1: He won it his own award from two thousand five
Speaker 1: to which I guess why it's named after him, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, begs a question why the Best Book
Speaker 1: Award is named after me? Three times I've won that
Speaker 1: award and then uh, it was named after Zach Saber Jr.
Speaker 1: From two thousand fourteen through and then Danielson wanted again
Speaker 1: last year. So you know, I it'll it'll all be
Speaker 1: political who ends up winning the match. You know, it'll
Speaker 1: it'll it'll come down to whatever you know, Ghetto and
Speaker 1: Tony kN agree on. But I can tell you one thing,
Speaker 1: if Daniel Bryan had his way, Zach Saber Junior is
Speaker 1: winning that match. So we'll we'll see if he's got
Speaker 1: the power to make that happen. But anyway, hopefully that
Speaker 1: match has announced soon because you don't you don't do
Speaker 1: that tease and you don't have a match that people
Speaker 1: want to see because you know, like I said on
Speaker 1: this uh, on this show, you ain't gonna get all
Speaker 1: these dream matches that you want. You're just not. I
Speaker 1: said that from day one. But I'm not saying you
Speaker 1: can't have any And I think that this is a
Speaker 1: great match to put here on this show. So Mudo
Speaker 1: was gonna do an announcement at the Cyberfest festival, and
Speaker 1: of course KGI Muto is fifty nine. He's he's basically,
Speaker 1: you know, had no knees for probably about twenty five
Speaker 1: years now, and so everybody figured, well, he's gonna announce
Speaker 1: that he's going to uh retire, and he did, but
Speaker 1: he will retire next year. So he's still got a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of matches, but he's letting you know that
Speaker 1: next spring he is going to retire. But apparently he
Speaker 1: as five more matches that he wants to do before
Speaker 1: his retirement. I did not mention if one of them
Speaker 1: would be with me, but you know, I guess him available.
Speaker 1: But anyway, he's gonna be announcing uh next year. And
Speaker 1: uh returned to action after recovering from a left hip injury,
Speaker 1: so add that to his list of maladies his him.
Speaker 1: So that's the update on him. Uh. We had a
Speaker 1: bunch of interviews over the last couple of weeks about
Speaker 1: the n W A always ready pay per view, and
Speaker 1: we were wondering as late as Friday, what in the
Speaker 1: world are they doing for the main event of the show,
Speaker 1: because of course it was supposed to be Nick Ald
Speaker 1: this versus Matt Cardona, but Matt Cardona not only tore
Speaker 1: his vicep but had surgery so he he would be out,
Speaker 1: and so what happened was they did a four way
Speaker 1: and the four way ended up being Trevor Murdoch, nick Eldis,
Speaker 1: sam Shaw who was the Rmer, Dexter Loomis, and Tom
Speaker 1: Latimer and so they had a four way for the
Speaker 1: vacant title and it ended with Trevor Murdoch penning Nick
Speaker 1: Aldis to become the new n w A World Heavyweight Champion.
Speaker 1: And afterwards Cardone showed up and he was supposed to
Speaker 1: vacate the title, but he refused and Billy Corgan basically
Speaker 1: told him, you're vacating the title. Brother, So a vacant
Speaker 1: he stormed off and obviously when he returns he will
Speaker 1: be facing whoever is the n w A World Heavyweight
Speaker 1: Champion at the time. Also uh Kinzie Page and Ella
Speaker 1: Envy pretty empowered. They defeated Alison Kay and Marty Bell
Speaker 1: to when the women's tag team titles and the Commonwealth
Speaker 1: connection Harry Smith and Doug Williams, the same Harry Smith
Speaker 1: that apparently w W he wanted to brand what do
Speaker 1: they want to call him? The uh Stampede Stu. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they beat Bestia Say Say Says and Uh, Micha Wolfe
Speaker 1: to win the End of World Take Team titles for
Speaker 1: the first time. So they're the champions, and uh that's
Speaker 1: the main news coming out of the n w A show.
Speaker 1: W w E also announced the second class of their
Speaker 1: Next in Line program, fifteen college athletes from fourteen universities,
Speaker 1: seven n C Double A conferences, seven sports, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know this is our deal where you know, we
Speaker 1: give people these these contracts and then they continue to
Speaker 1: go to school or whatever, including high school as we
Speaker 1: learned on the next team. But anyway, I like that
Speaker 1: they have this list of fifteen and you know, they
Speaker 1: got all their real names and they're going to change
Speaker 1: them obviously to these uh horrible fake n x T names.
Speaker 1: And when I look at these, and some of these
Speaker 1: names are pretty cool. We got case Hatch, he's six
Speaker 1: ft one. Which, by the way, they list all of
Speaker 1: these names here, including uh, thunder Keck. That's the real name,
Speaker 1: thunder Keck. They're gonna change it anyway. They list all
Speaker 1: of these names, and then of course the first thing,
Speaker 1: the first they don't announce, like you know, thunder thunder
Speaker 1: Keck is a football player from Northfield, New Hampshire. No.
Speaker 1: The first thing they tell you is how tall they
Speaker 1: are and how much they weigh. Thunder Keck six three
Speaker 1: and two, Rachel Glenn six ft, Mikhaela Hall five ft five,
Speaker 1: Molly car six five and two forty five pounds. Because
Speaker 1: you know, it's all about size. You can always tell
Speaker 1: who the men are and who the women are by
Speaker 1: the size. You know this uh uh you know five
Speaker 1: four probably a female, six five to probably a dude.
Speaker 1: You know what they're looking for. But anyway, fifteen new
Speaker 1: uh n I L deals have been have been signed.
Speaker 1: So there you go, everybody. The future of this promotion
Speaker 1: thunder Keck. Like in a moment Observer Life, you were
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Speaker 1: what is uh his issue is, but we're working on it.
Speaker 1: Actually we're not work on it. He's gonna try and
Speaker 1: work on it. We've done all we can, but it
Speaker 1: is time for you, you, my friends, to join the show.
Speaker 1: Phone number if you want to text four to five
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Speaker 1: twenty seven and so busy. I didn't get a chance
Speaker 1: to look at the chat. I don't want to call
Speaker 1: anybody out. But of course the first thing I see
Speaker 1: when I look at the chat is some bloke going
Speaker 1: Brian talked about Jeff Hardy Yet why do you tune
Speaker 1: in late? And then asked if I talked about what
Speaker 1: was obviously the top story of the day. I mean, hello,
Speaker 1: of course I talked about it. Somebody helped me out
Speaker 1: here on the phone. Let's go to Portsmouth. You're on
Speaker 1: the air. What's up is the friends the Brandon. I'm
Speaker 1: happy a Blade birthday to you. Man, Um, yeah, man.
Speaker 1: And I want to ask, do you think the fans
Speaker 1: would turn on Athena if she gets booked to be
Speaker 1: the one who does the throne um Jake Cark kill Um.
Speaker 1: I know for sure sad Lander has been very over
Speaker 1: you can tell by her reactions, and it does resemble
Speaker 1: what MJF was kind of talking about in that probos.
Speaker 1: It's all very interesting. So he just look at your
Speaker 1: aowtsome that do I think the fans would turn on her, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like if Athena gets the belt instead of Statlin. I see,
Speaker 1: I see, I see, I see. Well I want to
Speaker 1: I want to thank you very much for the call. See.
Speaker 1: I don't think they would turn on her for that.
Speaker 1: You know. They they turned on Ruby because Ruby was
Speaker 1: in the match and they wanted stat Lander to win,
Speaker 1: and so Ruby took the brunt of it. But you know,
Speaker 1: if if ember Moon is is facing Jade and stat
Speaker 1: Lander's just like you know, nowhere in sight, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think they would turn on
Speaker 1: on Amber Moon. I could be wrong, and quite frankly,
Speaker 1: I mean if you if you watched double or nothing.
Speaker 1: They really only turned on Ruby for for that night.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, by by the time the pay per
Speaker 1: view came along, you know, Ruby was super over again.
Speaker 1: So um, the only one they really turned on and
Speaker 1: they kept turning on was was Red Velvet. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Red Velvet she kept getting turned on because
Speaker 1: they kept booking her to beat popular women in their hometown.
Speaker 1: It was almost like it was by design. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was or not, but it happened so
Speaker 1: frequently that it was almost like there's no way that
Speaker 1: she's supposed to get cheered, Like she's just one popular
Speaker 1: hometown woman after another that red velvets going in there
Speaker 1: and beating So I don't I don't think so. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to Uh the phones, Little Rocky are on
Speaker 1: the air. What's going on? Go ahead, you're on the air.
Speaker 1: Oh right, what's up, Brian, what's happening? Uh? What do
Speaker 1: you think about? Well, it's kind of a two folk question.
Speaker 1: What do you think about a W diminishing the value
Speaker 1: of the interim championship and should really the j White
Speaker 1: Switchblade in JPW title match really go on last and
Speaker 1: be the main event? What do I you you feel
Speaker 1: they've devalued the interim title? Well, yeah, I mean a
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean there was a whole debacle with
Speaker 1: the Battle Royal and you know, the questionable entrance on. Maybe,
Speaker 1: like Dave said over the radio, like maybe they should
Speaker 1: have just had like a few active previous a W
Speaker 1: World champions and just have a match there and then
Speaker 1: the Winter be the interim. Well yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: thank you very much for the Calso here's a deal.
Speaker 1: First off, it's hard to value something that has no
Speaker 1: value yet, so I can't say that they've devalued the title.
Speaker 1: Whether the title will have any value will depend on
Speaker 1: who wins it and uh and what they do with
Speaker 1: it after they after they win it. So would it
Speaker 1: have been best for them to just have announced here
Speaker 1: are the three available former champions, They're going to have
Speaker 1: a three way and the winner is going to be
Speaker 1: the champion. Yes, that would obviously have been the easiest
Speaker 1: way to do this, but we have a Forbidden Door
Speaker 1: paper you that's coming up at the end of June,
Speaker 1: and so the Soul Punk thing obviously wasn't planned. It
Speaker 1: wasn't planned for him to get injured. It wasn't planned
Speaker 1: for him to have to, uh, you know, do the
Speaker 1: interim championship deal. But once that was done, okay, well,
Speaker 1: now we gotta figure out what are we gonna do
Speaker 1: for this interim title. And you know, because of Forbidden Door,
Speaker 1: they wanted a new japan guy, and they wanted an
Speaker 1: a w guy and uh, and then you had to
Speaker 1: figure out how to get there. And yes, I would
Speaker 1: have the Battle Royal. The winner faces Moxley a match
Speaker 1: on dominion, Like there's a lot of stuff going on,
Speaker 1: But I think the idea was, listen, we're in this
Speaker 1: situation right here, and and what can we do to
Speaker 1: like capitalize on it? And clearly their idea and you know,
Speaker 1: Dynamite did a very good number. It was number one
Speaker 1: on cable this week. You know, the idea was we
Speaker 1: we do a Battle Royal at the beginning of the show,
Speaker 1: and then we do the winner against Moxley at the
Speaker 1: end of the show. That's big matches on the show.
Speaker 1: And then you know, New Japan can do a Dominion match,
Speaker 1: which you know, maybe you can you know, garner some
Speaker 1: interest for Dominion by doing in in a w UH
Speaker 1: qualifier there. So it's just a lot of different things
Speaker 1: to try to bring eyeballs. Was it was it perfect? No,
Speaker 1: doesn't have any and and it really does no bearing
Speaker 1: on on what happens with the championship. If John Moxley
Speaker 1: wins that interim title and this bro goes on a
Speaker 1: tear and he's smashing dudes and having great matches on TV,
Speaker 1: and you know, he can bring a lot of value
Speaker 1: to the interim title, and then you know, if he's
Speaker 1: a great interim champion and then Punk comes back, I mean,
Speaker 1: it'll feel like a big match when they do the unification,
Speaker 1: So it is too early to determine if there is
Speaker 1: an issue with the interim title. If you want to
Speaker 1: say that has been too convoluted, like my explanation, just
Speaker 1: now go for it. I would agree there's too much
Speaker 1: stuff going on, but there's a reason for it. It's
Speaker 1: not just done for the sake of being convoluted. Dagan,
Speaker 1: you're on the air, bro what's up? What's going on?
Speaker 1: No one else could possibly be calling from Bellows Falls.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any other anybody else listening to
Speaker 1: this show from Bellows Falls, Vermont. But first off, Brian,
Speaker 1: happy birthday, my friend. I wanted to get that out
Speaker 1: of there. Working on that song for the contest tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so that should be fun. Um, wanted to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this, g one. Uh, we have four blocks now,
Speaker 1: so do you think that they will have the top
Speaker 1: point getters in each block face off in sort of
Speaker 1: a semifinal thing where you have like A block winner
Speaker 1: versus B block winner, and then C block winner versus
Speaker 1: D block winner on the other side, and then the
Speaker 1: two face off in the finals. The winners of that
Speaker 1: How would you book this, Brian? You know what? You know?
Speaker 1: What I do? You know what I do? What would
Speaker 1: you do? Brian? Alright, so we got we got four blocks,
Speaker 1: which we don't even know the blocks yet. Okay, but
Speaker 1: let me let me get some names and completely at random.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna pick four winners. So let's
Speaker 1: say that, digging out of here so you can get
Speaker 1: the next bloke on the line, Let's say that your
Speaker 1: four winners end up being Okada wins a block, Tanahashi
Speaker 1: wins a block, Nighto wins a block, and Filthy Tom
Speaker 1: Lawler wins a block. Four winners. What do you do
Speaker 1: with four winners? Well, you could do a four way
Speaker 1: I don't like that idea. So what I would do?
Speaker 1: You know what I do? I would say, here are
Speaker 1: your four winners, and what we're gonna do is we're
Speaker 1: gonna leave it up to the fans, and you let
Speaker 1: the fans pick the two semifinal matches with those four individuals.
Speaker 1: So may be the fans want to they want to
Speaker 1: see Okada versus Filthy and Tanahashi versus Nito, or maybe
Speaker 1: they want to see nights O versus o'kinda for the
Speaker 1: five fifth time and Tonahashi versus Filthy. You let the
Speaker 1: fans pick those two semis and then babam do you
Speaker 1: have the finals. That's what I do, just to have
Speaker 1: a little bit of something different. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's already different. There's already twenty eight guys in four blocks.
Speaker 1: We could do something different. So yeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 1: I'm a man, you know what I am. Everybody, I'm
Speaker 1: a man of the people. That's what I am. Let's
Speaker 1: go to uh, Honolulu, you're on the air. What's going on? Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: happy birthday? Thank you. This might be an unpopular opinion here,
Speaker 1: but I don't think any title should exist if it
Speaker 1: doesn't have a purpose. Well, what's the point of a
Speaker 1: t NT champion besides a ethically what You're the best
Speaker 1: wrestler on TNT. Well, uh, you know, based on the
Speaker 1: name of the belt. Yes, he's I guess the best
Speaker 1: wrestler on TNT. Wouldn't that just be the heavyweight champion? Though? Well,
Speaker 1: here's here's the deal, my friend. You're you're you're you're
Speaker 1: you're right. But but here's the deal. So you have
Speaker 1: a you have a world heavyweight champion. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: the pinnacle of the sport, your World Heavyweight Championship. It
Speaker 1: is a belt that everybody should want to vie for.
Speaker 1: You get into this business because you want to be,
Speaker 1: in storyline, the world heavyweight champion. In real life, you
Speaker 1: get into this business because you want to make a
Speaker 1: lot of money and provide for your family. But in storyline,
Speaker 1: you want this this belt made a Cubic, Zirconian whatever.
Speaker 1: So that's the main title. Now. To keep the prestige
Speaker 1: of the main title, that main title should largely only
Speaker 1: be defended on major events pay per views, you run
Speaker 1: some show in a stadium with twenty five people, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: But you should also have a title that is defended
Speaker 1: more regularly on television. So I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: whatsoever with having a secondary TNT title. Okay, Now this
Speaker 1: is because of the size of the roster. Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with Jade Cargill having a TBS championship.
Speaker 1: They're like being a secondary women's title. But if you
Speaker 1: have a far fewer number of women, you may only
Speaker 1: need one big belt that they fight for. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's all about equality. Even though it's it's about equality,
Speaker 1: except the rosters aren't equal. Like if there were a
Speaker 1: hundred women and a hundred men, then it would be equal.
Speaker 1: Then you would have an equal number of championships. But
Speaker 1: if you have a hundred women in twenty men, we
Speaker 1: still have to make it equal even though it's unequal.
Speaker 1: But anyway, but then we move on. Now we've got this.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, we have the ft W title, which
Speaker 1: really is is you know, people complain about that with everything,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't really count. It's like it's a belt
Speaker 1: that's only gonna be in Taz is stable, it never
Speaker 1: changes hands, it's rarely defended. It's just kind of like
Speaker 1: a you know, part of Taz's gimmick. We don't need it,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but you know when people make
Speaker 1: a list of titles and they're complaining, it's like they
Speaker 1: don't ever really do anything with that belt. But this
Speaker 1: all Atlantic title? Have you ever? You know what's scarcity is?
Speaker 1: You know what that is? You know there's a you
Speaker 1: want a certain car but you can't get it. There's
Speaker 1: like it's back ordered for three years. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could go to the car dealership and just grab a car,
Speaker 1: but you know, you want the car you can't have.
Speaker 1: It's scarcity. That's that's what this championship thing should be about.
Speaker 1: The championships should be scarce instead, now it's like there's
Speaker 1: fifty championships. Oh, you know, I really wanted the world title.
Speaker 1: But actually it's a storyline. I really wanted the world title,
Speaker 1: but I'll just go for the T and T title
Speaker 1: now and then we're gonna have the all a Merry,
Speaker 1: you know, the all all Atlantic titles. They haven't said
Speaker 1: a storyline, but it's basically like, you know, you guys
Speaker 1: weren't in the the Battle Royal for a shot at
Speaker 1: the main title, because now you're in a tournament for
Speaker 1: this you know, tertiary title. So like the more titles
Speaker 1: you have, the less value. All of the titles have,
Speaker 1: not just the world title, but all of them. So anyway,
Speaker 1: we don't need this belt. It's it's uh, it's unneeded.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd be okay with Trio's titles, but we
Speaker 1: have way too many singles titles as it is, and
Speaker 1: uh that takes away the the titles being special, which
Speaker 1: is what you don't want to do. The title should
Speaker 1: be the number one thing, and you know what making
Speaker 1: people happy? Oh, let's have a belt for these guys.
Speaker 1: Too bad. It's not about making everybody happy, It's about
Speaker 1: making that title special and not everybody gets it back
Speaker 1: at a moment. Observer Live, Yeah, it taking that back.
Speaker 1: You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alfarez
Speaker 1: and Mike Simper Vivian on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network
Speaker 1: and the show. Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 1: We're trying to figure out with Simper vvs so we
Speaker 1: can return tomorrow. But a couple of text messages, are
Speaker 1: you going? Are we going to give Jeff Hardy unlimited
Speaker 1: chances to not learn his lessons and watch how this
Speaker 1: ends as they all usually do? Well, who's we? But no,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen. But nothing is
Speaker 1: official at this point. Marcella says, Brian agreed on the
Speaker 1: title what makes it so special, as well as the
Speaker 1: talks on who should have had the title and who
Speaker 1: did it? I mean, if Arne had ever gotten the
Speaker 1: heavyweight title, would he be as relevant as he is today?
Speaker 1: Or a Jack Swagger also Stampede's That is my favorite
Speaker 1: Braser's film. Hope you had a good day, thanks or Solo.
Speaker 1: Firstan says, I'm baffled They're doing Riddle versus Roman on
Speaker 1: SmackDown next week and not Money in the Bank, which
Speaker 1: is in Vegas, which is in Riddle's hometown. They can
Speaker 1: build him up and do their favorite thing, beat him
Speaker 1: in his hometown. Well, the bigger issue is, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to make money, and uh they've already made
Speaker 1: their money off Peacock. So you know, putting Roman Reigns
Speaker 1: on money the bank means absolutely zero to w w E.
Speaker 1: They don't make one dime if more people watch because
Speaker 1: Roman Reigns is on there. But if they do big
Speaker 1: SmackDown ratings as a result of Roman Reign defending the
Speaker 1: title on the show, well then it comes time to
Speaker 1: renew your television deal and you make even more money. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we knew this was gonna happen when they
Speaker 1: sold the Peacock, and that is that you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get those pay per views he used to get. You know,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get something, and they're gonna give you matches,
Speaker 1: but like the big stuff, I mean, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: at WrestleMania or it's gonna be in Saudi Arabia or
Speaker 1: you know wherever they gonna get the most money for
Speaker 1: this stuff. They don't make any more money on Peacock.
Speaker 1: They've made their money. They're done, so that's why, Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we're out of time. Want to thank you all for
Speaker 1: listening here today, callers, listeners and uh simper vv everyone
Speaker 1: at Studio dum and uh we'll talk to you soon.
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