1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm Richard Salami and I'm Doug Prisner. Here are the 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: The in battled developer Country Garden It's warning that it 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: may default after reporting a record first half loss that 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: begs bonni Ou as more. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: The Chinese developer has reported a loss of almost seven 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: billion dollars. Country Gardens said it may go into default 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: if financial performance deteriorates further. The warning highlights how China's 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: deepening real estate crisis has spattered one of its property giants. 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: Country Garden acknowledged that it didn't adopt timely measures to 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: deal with the slowdown. It also failed to recognize the 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 3: risks of its heavy reliance and lower tier property markets. 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: Country Gardens said it continues to negotiate with bond investors 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: and banks to extend debt maturities to keep it afloat. 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: In Hong Kong, I'm Bonnie Al Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: Later today in China will get the official p MII 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: numbers and they probably will indicate a deterioration right across 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: the board for the month of August. We have more 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: from Bloomberg's Juan Wong. 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 4: China Services PMI are expected to fall close to a 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: level that would indicate shrinking activity. A post pandemic. Search 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: and service activity had been the main prop to the recovery, 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 4: but that appears to be running out of steam and 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 4: some help maybe on the horizon. China Central Bank is 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 4: strafting preliminary policies to give private businesses better access to 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 4: funding to boost economic growth in Hong Kong and join 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: Wang Bloomberg Day Brigasia. 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: Now, China's said to improve the first batch of generative 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence services for public roll out as soon as 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: this week. We hear this Cyberspace Administration of China will 32 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: soon give the green light a handful of firms, and 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: we're told that the search leader Baidu will be among 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: the first to win approval for its AI models. The 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: move does mark a milestone for China's AI industry and 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: it will allow the country to develop services capable of 37 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: competing with the likes of Microsoft and Apple's oh Erse 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: Alphabet's Google. 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: Well, we want to talk about what's happening in the 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: US banking complex today because because federal regulators are ramping 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: up demands for corrective action by some regional banks. The 42 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: story from Bloomberg's and Kate's. 43 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 5: The Federal Reserve has issued a slew of private warnings 44 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 5: to lenders with assets of one hundred billion to two 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty billion dollars, including Citizens Financial Group, Fifth 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 5: Third and M and T Bank. The wide ranging notices 47 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 5: have touched on everything from the financial institution's capital and 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 5: liquidity to their technology and compliance. Examiners are looking for 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 5: other signs of stress and the system already strained by 50 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 5: the collapse of three banks, and it is part of 51 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 5: a wider increase in scrutiny impacting lenders of all sizes 52 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 5: in Washington and Kate's Bloomberg day Break Asia. 53 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: All right, let's have a look at what's begging in 54 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: an Apple in its manufacturing process and how it's perhaps 55 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: a changing how some of its devices are right so 56 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: they constructed or made he is Bloomberg's tom busby. 57 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 6: Apple is now testing out the use of three D 58 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 6: printers to make the steelcasings for some of it soon 59 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 6: to be released smart watches, a procedure that would reduce 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 6: the time it takes to build some gadgets and use 61 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 6: a lot less raw materials. Now, if the current work 62 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 6: on Apple watches goes. According to plan, Apple could look 63 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 6: to expand the process to even more devices in the 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 6: next several years. At Apple spokesperson declined to comment. Tom 65 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 6: Busby Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 66 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: After the closing bell Here in the US, Salesforce gave 67 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: a forecast for both revenue and profit for the current 68 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: quarter above Street estimates. The story now from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett, 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: it signals progress in its campaign to cut costs following 70 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: involvement by activist investors. Over the past year, Sales Forces 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: the market leader in software that helps companies manage their 72 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: customer relations. It has been narrowly focused on expanding its 73 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: profit margins, a campaign that was hastened earlier this year 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: by the emergence of multiple activist investors in New York. 75 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: Charlie Pellette Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. Well I mentioned a little 76 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: while back that another batch of economic numbers here in 77 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: the US points to moderation in the American economy. First, 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: USGDP revised lower for Q two an annualized rate now 79 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: of two point one percent. That adjustment does reflect more 80 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: moderate business investment, and at the same time today from ADP, 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: the number of American companies adding jobs well fewer than forecast, 82 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: the fewest in five months. On the positive side, we 83 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: did have pending home sales unexpectedly move up. If you 84 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: take a step back and look at the City Group 85 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: Economic Surprise Index for the US, it extended its plunge 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: below fifty after topping eighty earlier this month. Now, if 87 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: you don't know, this is a measurement of the data 88 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: that has been exceeding forecasts. So obviously, now we've got 89 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: a situation where fewer and fewer numbers are topping estimates. 90 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: So on balance, everything that we're learning is helping to 91 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: cement bets on the FED being very very near the 92 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: end of its tightening cycle. Let's get to Global News next. 93 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: We've got an updates on Hurricane Adalia, which made landfall today. 94 00:04:58,800 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: Dan Schwartzman's here with that. 95 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, did Doug. It's moved into southern Georgia after wreaking 96 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 7: havoc in Florida. As of now, hundreds of thousands of 97 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 7: Floridians are without power, with more than eighteen hundred flights grounded, 98 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 7: and Dahlia coming ashore as a Category three hurricane. Its 99 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 7: top winds now though, are down to around seventy five 100 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 7: miles an hour. That's barely classified as a Category one HARKing. That's, 101 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 7: of course good news. President Biden says he can't deny 102 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 7: the science on all these natural disasters. 103 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 8: I don't think anybody can deny the impact of a 104 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 8: climate crisis anymore. Just look around historic floods, I mean 105 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 8: historic floods, more intense droughts, extreme heat, significant wildfires, of course, 106 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 8: significant damage. 107 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 7: Parts of Florida experiencing flooding, tamp and clear water, seeing 108 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 7: waters rise as much as five feet in some areas. 109 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 7: Both Visa and Massacard are looking to boot boost the 110 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 7: fees that retailers pay when they accept credit and debit cards. 111 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 7: Starting in October, online transactions using Visa will have higher fees. 112 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 7: Commercial credit, debit, and prepaid card fees are slated to increase. 113 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 7: In April to your US, merchants paid a record one 114 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 7: hundred and sixty point seven billion dollars in swipe fees. 115 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 7: That's an increase of close to seventeen percent from the 116 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 7: year prior. The boost and fees is expected that around 117 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 7: five hundred million more dollars of costs to retailers. Both 118 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 7: Senators Dick Durbin and Roger Marshall now urging both Visa 119 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 7: Massacard to withdraw their plans to increase these fees. Both 120 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 7: senators have introduced a bill that would enhance competition between 121 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 7: credit card networks. Meanwhile, Visa Massacard shares rising to all 122 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 7: time highs after the announcement of the fee increases. US 123 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 7: officials say they have information that Russia North Korea are 124 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 7: negotiating arms deals. The White House says the North would 125 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 7: give Russia munitions and other support for its invasion of Ukraine. 126 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 7: The two sides are SAENTI have exchanged letters look at 127 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 7: increase cooperation with Russian officials, having recently visited Pyongyang. The 128 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 7: Biden administration has accused the Russian military and Wagner Mercenary 129 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 7: Group of receiving deliveries of North Korea munitions. A federal 130 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 7: judge has found Rudy Giuliani liable for defaming two Georgia 131 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 7: election workers with voter fraud conspiracies. The former New York 132 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 7: City mayor will next face a trial to see whether 133 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 7: he will pay damages and if so, how much. US 134 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 7: District Judge Beryl Howell also has ordered Juliani to pay 135 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 7: one hundred and thirty two thousand dollars to the victims 136 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 7: for their legal fees. Giuliani's finances have been a prominent 137 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 7: feature in the trial, with a judge saying he has 138 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 7: till September twentieth to turnover all financial information that trump. 139 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 7: Bali says he will fight any damages and may appeal 140 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 7: on the grounds his speech was constitutionally protected. Global News 141 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 7: twenty four hours a day, powered by more than twenty 142 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 7: seven hundred journalists and analysts in more than one hundred 143 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 7: and twenty countries. I'm Dan Schwarzman. This is Bloomberg. 144 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: Let's bring an Anna Wong. She is Bloomberg chief US economist. 145 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: We're going to take a look at what's happening in 146 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: the American economy. Anna joins us from our Washington DC 147 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: of Bureau, and I think she's on the phone today. Anda, 148 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: thanks for being with us. Help me understand what's going 149 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: on with the economy in light of the downward revision 150 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: in GDP and a pretty soft number today from ADP. 151 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 9: Revision really is the theme of what's going on with 152 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 9: US statistics right now. So we saw today that GDP 153 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 9: growth for the second quarter was revised down by thirty bits. 154 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 9: And you know, I recalled that when the second quarter 155 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 9: GDP came out it exceeded expectations, But with this revisions, 156 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 9: it basically means that in fact GDP growth was was 157 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 9: at or below expectations ADP number. I wouldn't put too much, 158 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 9: you know, weight on it. However, it's still consistent with 159 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 9: the themes that a lot of the growth activity data 160 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 9: for the US economy in real time was actually stronger 161 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 9: than what after all the revisions are done is showing. 162 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 9: So US economy is weaker than it looks. 163 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what about the jolt state that was a 164 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: bit weak than nine three, but still pretty strong. Let's 165 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: face it here. And I know that it's not that important, 166 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: but it's getting more and more. I suppose something more. 167 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Eyeba was looking at this. 168 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, So you know, we were skeptical about the adult 169 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 9: data from last month because it showed a very tiny 170 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 9: little drop. Yet the more reliable indicators for that indicate 171 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 9: that the temperature of the labor mark or wages and 172 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 9: wages are falling much more sharply. So we had thought 173 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 9: that maybe the labor mark was cooling much cooler than 174 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 9: what jolts data show is true enough, this week's jobs 175 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 9: data did verify that, in fact, there were more decline 176 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 9: in jobs opening than it seemed. And furthermore, I would 177 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 9: also add that a lot of almost half of these 178 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 9: jobs eight point eight million jobs opening are by small 179 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 9: to medium sized businesses, and a lot of the jobs 180 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 9: openings there are aspirational in our view because a small 181 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 9: and medium enterprises in US have been facing a search 182 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 9: in bankruptcy rates, and I just don't think that those 183 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 9: a lot of those job openings are real. 184 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: So we're talking a lot about the evidence of economic softening. 185 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: Are a little bit of weakness that is entering into 186 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: the story. But I'm curious and to get your take 187 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: on what that means for inflation, because tomorrow here in 188 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: the States, we're going to get to the pce number, 189 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: and this is one of the Fed's favorites, right. 190 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 9: And well, yeah, tomorrow and the PCEE is likely to 191 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 9: show that Powell's favorite indicator, which is the supercore or 192 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 9: services core services excluding housing, actually accelerated in July to 193 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 9: zero point five percent. That is really high. You know, 194 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 9: that is like more consistent with inflation at five percent 195 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 9: than at two percent. So that is certainly discouraging. However, 196 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 9: we argue that that acceleration is driven by singularly by 197 00:10:54,240 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 9: a very volatile component, which is portfolio management category, which 198 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 9: basically tells me nothing about true inflation. So the hope 199 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 9: here is that the Fed does look through this high 200 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 9: supercore number as it is driven by a very valatile factor, 201 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 9: and not put too much weight on this. 202 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: Of course, we got up to Friday, we've got the 203 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: non found pay rolls report, but I mean even up 204 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: to now, I mean, what's your take. Is the general 205 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: feeling out there that the Fed is, well, they're done 206 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: for this year? Probably? 207 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think after Jackson Hole, Right after Jackson Hole 208 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 9: more people were in the campus. The Fed still has 209 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 9: one more hike in them. Because powell speech just on 210 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 9: the service seems very hawkish, But our interpretation has always 211 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 9: that been that Powell is just steadily dubvish. He talks 212 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 9: about how real rates are in fact quite restrictive, and 213 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 9: the thing is we are being more significant cooling in 214 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 9: the labor market, and certainly this week's data reinforce that 215 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 9: subtly dubvish message and empowers Jackson's whole speech. 216 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: So if the labor market is softening. I wonder how 217 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: that may translate into some of the consumer data we're 218 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 2: getting tomorrow, which would include personal spending and income. Is 219 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: there an expectation now that people are going to begin 220 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: spending less and maybe we see incomes starting to at 221 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: least maybe remain steady. 222 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, So on the income component, it's coming down, right, 223 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 9: because the labor market is softening and people have less 224 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 9: bargaining power, So wage growth and income growth is cuting down. Now, 225 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 9: whether consumption will come down as well? Well, that is 226 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 9: what's interesting about the US consumer, because the typnical US 227 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 9: consumer keeps spending money, spending money that they don't have. 228 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 9: Even I think tomorrow's report is likely going to show 229 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 9: that July spending was super robust, and that's partly because 230 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 9: people are spending on Barbon Timer, on Taylor's Slip concert, 231 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 9: on Beyonce concert, and basically people are exhausting the financial resources. 232 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 9: And I personally think that we are going to see 233 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 9: a very weak Q four consumption because people have overspent. 234 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, apparent, I think apparently, And that we are looking 235 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: at another eight and a half billion dollars added to 236 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: GP in the third quarter really because of because of 237 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: Bobby Hammond and those of the factors that you mentioned here. 238 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: But you know our consumers spending, right, you know after 239 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: this there was that spending that they brought forward. 240 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 9: In your view, well, I think they if we did 241 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 9: not have these four cultural phenomena, these consumers would not 242 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 9: be spending because this is at their spending at a 243 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 9: time where delinquency rate on auto loans were spiking. On 244 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 9: credit cards, we're spiking, they should be hunkering down. So 245 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 9: I just think that the typical American consumer is not 246 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 9: one that's gifted with foresight. 247 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: So I'm going to imagine then, based on what you're saying, 248 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: that the light vehicle sales data that we're going to 249 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: have on Friday is going to be soft as well. 250 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 9: Yes, that's my assumption, and that's driven by rising auto rates. 251 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 9: You know, the average interest rate on a used car 252 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 9: is thirteen percent now and that's super high. 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