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Speaker 1: I Am all in again.

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Speaker 2: Let's do.

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Speaker 3: Luke Steiner with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 4: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast, one

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Speaker 4: Another segment of Luke Steiner with some very interesting guests.

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Speaker 4: Today we have Mary Cheron and Buddy Castano. Let me

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Speaker 4: tell you a little bit about Mary and Buddy. If

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Speaker 4: you want to know about Mary and Buddy, you gotta

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Speaker 4: know about Carlos.

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Speaker 1: Bakery and Hoboken, New.

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Speaker 4: Jersey, family owned legendary best known for stunning custom cakes,

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Speaker 4: classic Italian pastries, and of course, being the home base

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Speaker 4: of the hit TLC show Boss starring Buddy Velastro. The

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Speaker 4: bakery was originally founded in nineteen ten by Carlo Costafero, Yes,

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Speaker 4: and later acquired by the Velastro family in nineteen sixty four,

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Speaker 4: so you guys have had it nineteen sixty four. Since then,

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Speaker 4: it's grown from a beloved local spot into a nationally

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Speaker 4: recognized him multiple locations across the US, and an enormous

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Speaker 4: online presence.

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Speaker 1: I love this story. I cannot tell you I have

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Speaker 1: a coffee company.

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Speaker 4: We're trying to build up the same kind of business

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Speaker 4: that you all have done since nineteen sixty four, So

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Speaker 4: good on you for that. Listen, the two of you

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Speaker 4: are part of quite the family business. Can you please

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Speaker 4: give our listeners a little insight into how this all

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Speaker 4: got started for your family.

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Speaker 3: Well, my our parents started it, you know, when they

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Speaker 3: came here. My dad worked in different two different bakeries

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Speaker 3: and then came to Carlo's Bakery and the owner Oarlo

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Speaker 3: Augusta Farrow, had wanted to retire, he had a son.

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Speaker 3: His son really didn't want to take part in the

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Speaker 3: big in the business, so he said, you take over

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Speaker 3: the business. I'll hold the loan for you. And my

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Speaker 3: mom came in as a salesperson working in the front,

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Speaker 3: and he kind of had his eye on her and

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Speaker 3: he said, I'm going to marry you. We'll take over.

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Speaker 3: And that's really exactly what had happened. And they got

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Speaker 3: married and she ran the front, he ran the back,

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Speaker 3: and it was kind of like a perfect little setup,

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Speaker 3: and that's really what happened. And they got married, had

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Speaker 3: you know, five kids, and we were just kind of

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Speaker 3: born in there. And I remember being a little kid,

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Speaker 3: you know, all of us we used to play like

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Speaker 3: on the big fifty pound flower sacks and we that's

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Speaker 3: all we knew. That was our life. We were in

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Speaker 3: the bakery. We lived upstairs in the apartment, you know,

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Speaker 3: and it was just the bakery was such a big

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Speaker 3: part of our lives and it just it was a

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Speaker 3: lot of hard work. You know, we were very hard

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Speaker 3: working people and dedicated and grew it into this big

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Speaker 3: empire that it is today.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful, just such a great story.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of amazing and how it's taken to another

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Speaker 3: Like you know, when we were on the TV show,

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Speaker 3: it was just so surreal because it was you know,

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Speaker 3: people would stop us and you really couldn't go anywhere,

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Speaker 3: and constant pictures and even at work, i mean lines

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Speaker 3: for hours to get into the store. And it was

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Speaker 3: just surreal because okay, my brother makes these amazing cakes.

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Speaker 3: Because we me and the sisters kind of just ran

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Speaker 3: the front and you know, the brother in laws and

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Speaker 3: all the workers because everyone's like family that works here,

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Speaker 3: so everyone in the back working and we were running

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Speaker 3: the front and it was just like crazy and it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: because my brother makes these amazing cakes. It was it

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Speaker 3: are like our own kids, and it was just crazy.

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Speaker 3: And how it got started with someone had sent a video.

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Speaker 3: My brother used to do these challenges and someone had

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Speaker 3: they're like, well we want we don't want you, We

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Speaker 1: As my son calls it riz.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, you know, and that's that's really how it all happens.

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Speaker 3: And then undercover people used to come in and watch us.

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Speaker 3: And he came to us and he's like, oh, we're

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Speaker 3: He's like, you girls, you guys are crazy. I'm like

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Speaker 4: So tell us a little bit about some of these

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Speaker 4: disagreements they come up, right, I mean, it's always going

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Speaker 4: to come up in the kitchen and something's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: So tell us about one that is very memorable, memorable.

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Speaker 3: What can I tell you about? Well, I want since

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Speaker 3: you tell one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I work full time now at the bakery myself.

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Speaker 2: I graduated college last year, said, I'm here full time

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Speaker 5: I mean a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Our family arguments didn't make it to the TV screen.

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Speaker 5: You didn't get to see them. Yeah, we fight hard,

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Speaker 2: By my most probably the most memorable one I would

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Speaker 2: have to say was probably with me when I was

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Speaker 5: I was always I was always a buster.

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Speaker 2: I was always in the back trying to mix things

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Speaker 5: And I had actually hidden.

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Speaker 2: Components of this huge bowling cake that they were actually creating,

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Speaker 2: and the camera crew actually had no idea. So everyone's

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Speaker 2: going crazy in the back, like where is this? Like

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Speaker 2: my uncle's screaming at production, are you guys messing with me?

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Speaker 2: And then everyone's yelling at me because they see me

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Speaker 2: in the back laughing, and my uncle Buddy's lines of

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Speaker 2: all the employees and it's like, guys, if you're messing

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Speaker 5: Stored them in the back.

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Speaker 4: But that's just one of the many that have come

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Speaker 4: to mind. All right, So at Carlos, you make cakes,

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Speaker 4: of course, canolas, cookies, pizza. Can you share a couple

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Speaker 4: of personal favorites with us?

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Speaker 1: Mary, what's your favorite?

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Speaker 3: I really always say I was born into the right

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Speaker 3: family because I would rather eat cake than food. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: I am a dessert person all in all. I mean,

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite things at the bakery. Honestly and truly,

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Speaker 3: I have to say, I do like we make amazing

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Speaker 3: like chocolate chip cookies, and like all different ones. I

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Speaker 3: like the sugar ones. I like the Naker doodle. I'm

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Speaker 3: a big cookie person. I love our chocolate dip strawberries.

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Speaker 3: Those are excellent. I mean I love our lobster tails.

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Speaker 3: I mean the canolis. I mean I like them, but

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Speaker 3: I'm not like that's not one thing that I'm going

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Speaker 3: now we're just making a new one. Cookies and cream.

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Speaker 3: I think that one's great. I mean, I like the

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Speaker 3: strawberry shortcake one. I just kind of move on from

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Speaker 3: one thing to the next because there's such a big variety.

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Speaker 3: I love our pockets. We make these pockets. I like

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Speaker 3: the crembroulet or the hazel nut. The apple one would

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Speaker 3: be my least favorite, but you know those are the

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Speaker 3: other things. You know, when I go in, I'll either

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Speaker 3: grab an egg sandwich first, or just like a plain

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Speaker 3: croissant or a choco croissant, I mean Danish. There's so

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Speaker 3: many things. But honestly, I can tell you without fail.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you that I eat at least four

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Speaker 3: different desserts today. And I'm not even kidding, not even kidding.

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Speaker 3: And now when we're done here, swear to God, I'm

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Speaker 3: going for cake tasting because we have a whole new

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Speaker 3: now they're setting it up for me. I'm gonna taste

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Speaker 3: like twelve different desserts.

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Speaker 4: And that's the well, No, it's the joy of what

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Speaker 4: I do too.

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Speaker 1: With my coffee companies. I get to through the coffee

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Speaker 1: tastings and I love that part.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you that here's a technical question, right,

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Speaker 4: I want to know how you solve the shelf life issue,

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Speaker 4: the refrigeration issue when you're shipping across the country.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of a lot of our stuff. We

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Speaker 2: have a great partnership with Dawn Foods. They store and

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Speaker 2: distribute a lot of our food for us. We produce

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Speaker 2: everything here at our factory here in Jersey City, at

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Speaker 2: our warehouse. This is where all of our offices are based.

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Speaker 2: And then they kind of store and help and then

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Speaker 2: our stores purchase this stuff directly from Dawn Foods.

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Speaker 1: Are they in Jersey City?

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Speaker 5: They have?

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Speaker 2: Dawn Foods is a major corporation. They have warehouses and

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Speaker 2: stuff all over the country.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so it stays, they stay, it stays fresh. They

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Speaker 4: what they flash freeze it or something, and then they

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Speaker 2: When they need to factory, everything is instantly flash frozen.

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Speaker 2: We have nitrogen tunnels that basically lead almost throughout our

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Speaker 5: These are massive tunnels.

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Speaker 3: If you ever in your New Jersey you should actually

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Speaker 3: stop by. You would be really amazed as at what

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Speaker 3: He was waving to us.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so hard to come up.

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Speaker 2: That was our biggest issue with scaling was was making

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Speaker 2: sure that we were able to preserve our freshness and.

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Speaker 1: Getting yeah, huge issue, huge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just amazing the factory and and and we

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Speaker 3: make that's coming out soon too, a delicious pizza. It's

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Speaker 3: a frozen pizza, but if you ever tasted it, it's

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Speaker 3: it doesn't even taste like frozen. It tastes like fresh,

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Speaker 3: I mean pizza. It's just it's just out of this world.

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Speaker 3: We just got this pizza thing that like from Italy,

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Speaker 3: and the guys were here for months from Italy, like

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Speaker 3: some selling guys setting it up. They were wonderful. It's

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Speaker 3: just amazing. Wow, Like everything that we do is kind

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Speaker 3: of like kind of top notch. And I'm not just

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Speaker 3: saying this because I'm part of the family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know.

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Speaker 4: I can hear it in your voice. You're proud of it.

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Speaker 4: Top quality products, top quality and you're proud of it.

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Speaker 4: I can hear that. Yeah, that's the way I am

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Speaker 4: with my company. Only the best, only the best. Any

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Speaker 4: plans to expand the offerings or introduce new creations at the.

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Speaker 3: Big we're just working on a whole new line of

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Speaker 3: different cakes, different flavors in different things. So we're going

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Speaker 3: to get that, Like I said, we have a new

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Speaker 3: pizza that's coming out, and again it's phenomenal. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: you know what, you have to send your address and

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Speaker 3: I'm going to ship them to you. Honestly when when

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to ship you And then you tell me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is the apps? And I think I already know.

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Speaker 4: But what's the absolute best part about being in a

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Speaker 4: bakery where it's all family? I mean this, this this

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Speaker 4: question answers itself.

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Speaker 2: Whether our kids are like my best friends and brother

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Speaker 2: and sisters. We all work here together, like side by side.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I wish we had more time I

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Speaker 1: You got to come back.

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Speaker 4: Okay, First of all, please commit to coming back to

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Speaker 4: the show. We have more to talk about, Buddy, Mary,

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Speaker 4: do this again. Thanks for all the downloads everybody, and

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Speaker 4: remember where you lead, we will follow.

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Speaker 1: Stay safe.

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Speaker 5: Augusta dotcat.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and don't forget.

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