1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: We're back and we're breaking down the state of the 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls. Lebron's just unparalleled longevity. He's some kind of 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: time traveler. And plenty more from around the league with 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: the co host of the Note Dunks podcast for the 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: Athletic got Drake Kirby on today's episode on Gray and 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: I'm Jack O'Brien and this is I Go Hi, You 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Go Love. That's how we do it, like Michelle Obama 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: told us. Now, Tray Kirby, the author of the Blue 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Scorches Big Book of Basketball Facts, is here with us 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: and also one of the hosts of Jack one of 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: your favorite podcasts, The Star Starters and Back in the 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Day The Basketball Jones. Uh from way back. Man got 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: me through some NBA playoffs, man, Yeah, I think first 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: season of The Basketball Jones was the last time the 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings made the playoffs. Oh five oh six season. 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: It's been a long time that we've been doing it. Uh, 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: and maybe it's been the curse of the Kings. You know, 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: you gotta reunion episode exactly, we gotta go to Sacramento 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: and they make it back this year. So look, I 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: know you obviously from watching you on No. Dunks and uh, etcetera. 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: Here you you're your big Bulls fan. But where are 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: you from? Where'd you grow up? How'd you end up 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: with the Bulls? What's going on there? I grew up 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: in a tiny town called Plano, Illinois, probably twenty five 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: minutes southwest of Chicago. Uh. We're most famous as the 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: world's biggest producer of plastic fishing tackle boxes. Oh yeah, 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: I love your work. Oh yeah, you know great first 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: stand organized. Maybe you like to keep track of tiny 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: little beads some strings. Get you a caboodle. They make 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: those too little supplement and pill in take is all 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: I have to keep it, you know, organized in a 32 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: in a giant tackle box eight years old. We might 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: as well just go hit Plano More Holding Company on 34 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: South Street. You know that's the spot, that's the factory store. 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: You can get a tackle box or a caboodle. One 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: is rounder the only difference, right, and like with more 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: like nineties colors, because I remember the caboodle was basically 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: like a toolbox. But like, what if we did a 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: color way with turquoise and purple exactly make it hornets 40 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: colors and everyone will buy it for their six year 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: old daughter. No doubt they were in my household because 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: that's when I grew up. I was seven one of 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: the Bulls won our first championship. If you're seven years 44 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: old with Michael Jordan's forty five minutes away, you're gonna 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: end up a Bulls fan for life. It was awesome 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: up until I was fourteen. It's been a battle ever 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: since then. It feels like you got a wizard's jersey 48 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: or not. I didn't go to one m J Wizards 49 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: game in Indiana. I think it was Wizards Pacers his 50 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: first year back. But these days I like to just 51 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: imagine that that Aaron never really happened. You know that 52 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: this is all doctor footage. Nobody can really prove. I'm 53 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: j was a wizard, right, this is the sin Bad 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: movie where he's a genie. That's right. They're like, yeah, 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: go ahead, yeah, go look for that. Yeah, Bed was 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: a genie and Michael Jordan was a wizard. Getting on, 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: And how are you feeling about the team right now? 58 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: Better than a month ago? Yeah? You know, it's been 59 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: a weird couple of seasons for the Bulls. Last year, 60 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: they got off to an incredible start on top of 61 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: the league. For the first couple of months of the season, 62 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, the Bulls were back. They were an exciting 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: team to watch, and Lonzo Ball gets hurt that Lavine 64 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: picks up a little injury, more and more guys started 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: missing time. By the end of last season, I've flown 66 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: home for the first Bulls playoff game in five years 67 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: and end up being a thirty point blowout. Great. Uh, 68 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: And that was kind of the vibes going into the 69 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: season this year. Bulls came out, didn't look great to 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: start the season, gave up a hundred and fifty points 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: to the timber Wolves about a month ago. Apparently they 72 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: had a team meeting at halftime, came up seventy one 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: in the first half, had a team meeting, came back out, 74 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: gave up seventy nine. But after that figured it out, 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: like out it gave up, and that's where it started. 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: Chat at halftime. It didn't go wrong the second half, 77 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: and they're like, we gotta, we gotta really try that stuff, 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: talking about I love a team meeting where it really 79 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: turns the times, and it's just like, we gotta let 80 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: them stop making baskets. Yeah, exactly. That sounds very passive. Coach. Yeah, 81 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: we got just like they do, like, all right, that's it. 82 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: Team meeting half time? Was that? Yeah? But yeah, Zach Levine, 83 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: I mean he seems like he's uh, just flipped the 84 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: switch or something. It was basically in line with when 85 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: the Timberwolves game happened. You could even go back a 86 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: little earlier. I think since December one, he's basically been 87 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: back to the Zach Lavine. In the past couple of seasons, 88 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: he had the Arthur scopic knee surgery in the summer, 89 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: so when he came back to the Balls, you know, 90 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: it wasn't picking up right where he left off. But 91 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: now for the past month, basically he's been a fifty 92 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: shooter from the field and right near fifty sent from 93 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: three point land as well. And that's huge for the Balls. 94 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: They're not a team that makes a ton of threes, 95 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: so it's got to be Levine that actually knocks him down. Yeah. 96 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: Is there like a born on date that they have 97 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: with surgeries. I feel like there are certain surgeries whereas 98 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: like three weeks later though, that's when all of a 99 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: sudden he's like shooting from from three. I remember that 100 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot with Wade where you could just like feel 101 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: the future based on how his knee was feeling at 102 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: any given time, and it would fluctuate so wildly, like 103 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: from game to game. If he was that was a problem. 104 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: I remember one thing that's always messed timelines up for 105 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: me with regards to knee injuries was metal World Piece. 106 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: Like Curtis Meniscus. It seemed like he was gonna be 107 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: out for the playoffs, and he came back in two 108 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: weeks looked like the exact same player. Yeah. Now, anytime 109 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: somebody hurd at me, I'm like, well, it could be 110 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: a Metal World piece, you know, back right away. It 111 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: doesn't usually go that way. On the complete other end 112 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: of the spectrum. He got why Leonard, he's played through 113 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: half this season. He's like, this is gonna take me 114 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: two years to get back right camp The brakes a 115 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: little bit here because it's separate for everybody, But I'm 116 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: happy does see Levine looking more athletic like he always has. Now, 117 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: I love a player who doesn't like necessarily show up 118 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: on the statuet or you know, the everyday basketball fan 119 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: doesn't like pay a ton of attention to them. But 120 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: then they're just like there and they jell everything together 121 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: with Alonzo as a fan who watches a lot more 122 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: of these games than I do, like he he was 123 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: somebody who I really believed in coming into the league. 124 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: And then you know he hasn't like set the world 125 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: on fire, right, But a lot of people who watch 126 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: a lot of his games are like, he really contributes 127 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: to wins. Do you think that him being out and 128 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: him coming back in the not too distant future is 129 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: is going to be a big swing for the Bulls. 130 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: Alonzo is kind of the Draymond of the Bulls and 131 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: the fact that he just does whatever they need to 132 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: do and all of the things that are his strengths 133 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: are the rest of the team's weaknesses. So I really 134 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: do hope he comes back soon. Uh, the reporting on 135 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: his injury has not been met a world peace encouraging. 136 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: You know. I heard he was jumping on his jump 137 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: shots now, which is an improvement, But the guy had 138 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: surgery about a year ago, so you would think they 139 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: were back already. Nonetheless, when he went out, he gave 140 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: the Bulls a little bit of size on the perimeter, 141 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: some defense, some deflections. He pushes the pace obviously, and 142 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: then he really chucks threes like that's a crazy thing 143 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: about a Lonzo he came in the shop is certainly 144 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: a question mark. He learned how to shoot in New 145 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: Orleans and then he was just letting it fly in 146 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: the first half of the season for the Bulls last year. 147 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: They don't get a ton of three point shops up. 148 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of high percentage guys. He 149 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: would certainly help, not to mention on the defensive end, 150 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: where him and Caruso they looked like a menace out 151 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: there together for the first half of the season last year. 152 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: They need his transition offense, they need his threes, they 153 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: need his defense. There's a reason Lonzo was a priority 154 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: for the Bulls going into last season. Right it's a 155 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: bummer to me as a as a Sixers fan that 156 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: there we might be having another another player has entered 157 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: the ring like another because the East is already so 158 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: stacked like it, it already feels deflating to be like man, 159 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: the Sixers look good, and so does five other teams 160 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: that seem like they're gonna be impossible to get out 161 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: of the first or second round with. And now the 162 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: Bulls kind of putting it together. It's exciting as an 163 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: NBA fan, but it does feel just positively jammed in 164 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: the East. As NBA fan, there's a lot of good 165 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: teams in the East, but Sixers fans don't need to 166 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 1: worry about the Bulls. If I'm not mistaken, Joel Embiid 167 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: has defeated lost to the Bulls in his career. That's crazy. Lucky. 168 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: He's lucky he missed this last game though we're being 169 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: eleven for thirteen from three. I'm thinking beats Stick and 170 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: Lavine on the perimeter there. So I don't know, Man, 171 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: He'll do what it takes. Yeah, he's undefeated. He's like, 172 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: but those people that are on the court, they are 173 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: not undefeated. Aaron Rodgers of the NBA, You know, right, 174 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: So was Zach Levine kind of turned in a corner? 175 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: Like one of the most recent things I read was like, 176 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, the relationship between him and Billy Donovan is 177 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: they call it strained but workable, Like, you know it 178 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: does it? Do you think that's anything to worry about 179 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: or that's just kind of a little side note that 180 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: it isn't going to really detract too much. I think 181 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: there must certainly be some kind of problems and some 182 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: sort of tension between Donovan and Levine. Just because back 183 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: before Dorosen came, Zach Levine was the man for the Bulls, 184 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: and when DeRozan signed on in Chicago, it kind of 185 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: seemed like they were gonna be one A and one B. 186 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: But to me, it kind of turned pretty quickly into 187 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: deroz and his number one and the guy's taking every 188 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: shot in the fourth quarter and doing a great job 189 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: with it. He's been one of the best fourth quarter 190 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: scores this season and last season, but that has some 191 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: times left Zach Levine watching uh and just waiting to 192 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: see what de Rosen does. There was also an incident 193 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: earlier this year where it will Been got benched in 194 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: the fourth corner of the game, which I think he's 195 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: kind of still holding onto um. But he also had 196 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: an incredible game against the Sixers in that fourth quarter 197 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: where he kind of got to be the man. He 198 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: was passing the ball, he was relocating, he was fined 199 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: in three pointers. So I think they can still work 200 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: things out, but certainly there's a little bit of tension there. 201 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: Of Course, the Bulls just signed Billy Donovan to an extension, 202 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: so it doesn't seem like he's going anywhere. Zach Levine 203 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: just got a big, huge, contract as well. It doesn't 204 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: feel like he's going anywhere immediately. They're gonna have to 205 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: figure it out. The good thing is they're winning some 206 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: games right now. That seems to be the way to 207 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: work things out. Yeah. I was like, don't don't look 208 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: too bad, and even like, you know, uh who, you 209 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: guys played the Celtics, right, I was looking at Celtics Twitter. 210 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: They were shook after that game. They were like, hey, man, 211 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad would have to play them for a while. Man, 212 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: they're shook because the Bulls already beat him twice this year. Yeah, 213 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: against the Celtics, and Levine was hot in that fourth 214 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: quarter hit fifteen, got the lead down to two after 215 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: Derosan went out, took a real tough step back, sort 216 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: of a little fade away. It went off, and then 217 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: the Bulls doubled about out Morford in the corner. He 218 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: rattled it home, touched nine thousand times on the rims 219 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: still somehow dry Celtics win, but you can see why 220 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: they're stuff. They don't want to see the Bulls in 221 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: a one eight series, right, Yeah, it's gonna be interesting 222 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: to see who gets that six seeds. I think a 223 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: lot of people are waiting for the Pacers to fade. 224 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: But they're eaten two or less ten. But the Bulls 225 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: are ten and two versus the Celtics, Bucks, heat Nets, 226 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: and Jazz. I don't know why I threw the Jazz 227 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: in there. I feel like that might be they were 228 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: on top of the game for a while back. Today, Yeah, 229 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: we were looking at them different lenses for sure. Yeah. Yeah. 230 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny because the criticism of the Bulls 231 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: last season was that they were just beating up on 232 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: the worst teams in the league. They had a great 233 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: record against teams with under five hundred, but I think 234 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: they were one in fourteen or something like that against 235 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: the top four seeds in the Eastern Conference. This year, 236 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: they're really struggling against the worst teams in the league. 237 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, they can beat all the top teams. Unfortunately, 238 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: being able to beat the bad teams is what could 239 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: you really good seeds? It comes playoff time. You got 240 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: to have that part. Yeah, yeah, you want us to 241 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: do both? Well write that you didn't write, Oh, there's 242 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: what's better our record against them? Which one did you 243 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: rather have? Okay, I think we'd rather beat the top teams. Okay, 244 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: just putting it out there. You'd rather beat the top team, 245 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: so you at least get media people picking one win 246 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. You know, It's better than somebody saying, oh, 247 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: Bowls are getting swept out of the playoffs. Here bocks 248 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: in five. I can take that. I gotta ask you, 249 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: know you you mentioned you were seven years old in 250 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: which would make you perhaps someone born in four, which 251 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: would perhaps make you thirty eight years old, just like 252 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: god level math. And I'm I would like to talk 253 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: about another thirty eight year old that makes me feel 254 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: so inadequate. This man name Lebrin James. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 255 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: I think I'm part of him. Yeah, he's I was 256 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: saying funny to me that you you always always myself, 257 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: You're always comparing yourself to Vron because you're born in 258 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: the same year. Yeah. It's a weird, insidious thing I 259 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: have since being like a child, you know what I mean, Like, 260 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: you're always like, oh, well, eighth grader, so of course 261 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a little bit better than me. I'm 262 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: only seventh grade, you know what I mean. And with Lebron, 263 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, he looks good. I'm like, 264 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: not even on the team in high school. But it's 265 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: just like it's weird comparatively. I can't help me, Like, 266 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, we're the same age. And now it's funny 267 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: because my relationship to Lebron is like I look up 268 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: to him like he's my daddy. Sometimes I'm like I've 269 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: always Lebron is more of a son. Yeah, that four 270 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: year age advantage. So do you look at so you 271 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: look at Lebron as your as like your little brother 272 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: because of the age thing. Okay, it thinkuse me. I'm 273 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: like he's my classmate that I'm would constantly be like, man, 274 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: what am I gonna get as good as him? Man? 275 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: I remember the when I discovered the basketball Jones was 276 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs where he was going against the Celtics. He 277 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: was down I think three two in the Eastern Conference finals. 278 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: He had just had that bad finals, and I was 279 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: just so like pulling for him to break through this 280 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: wall and like get to the finals, and I was 281 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: just consuming so much basketball content. But yeah, it was 282 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: it was a blast listening to you guys talk Lebron 283 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: over the years. It's crazy that he is in year 284 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: twenty and he's gonna be an All NBA player. I 285 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: think the same man. I'm like, four, what a special 286 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: year I was born. Lebron was born, Jordan was drafted. 287 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, if you were born in 288 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: Night four, you do get a little bit of credit. 289 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: I think for all those cool basketball things that happened, 290 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: there was just something in the something in the year. 291 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: Uh block people in for basketball fans. But yeah, it's 292 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: a it's honestly wild to still be talking about Lebron 293 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: through the entirety of the show. Basically I made he 294 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: was there before the show even started. We've been a 295 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: long running podcast in many many forms. It feels strange 296 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: because the guy's like one of the most famous people 297 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: on earth, and you know, he's been one of the 298 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: most famous people on earth as long as we've known 299 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: about him. But there are just things it are relatable. 300 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, his daughter and my oldest daughter were born 301 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: in the exact same month. Son. Like, look, Lebron has 302 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: Mowana birthday parties. We can exactly he's watching the same 303 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: Disney plod shows. Yeah, yeah, Big Miss by George orwell not. 304 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: You know, he picked something else to write about of 305 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: eighty four instead of you guys as birth. Yeah, but 306 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: like I think he's smart, and it's like, like, have 307 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: you ever read that book? It doesn't mention Jordan being 308 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: drafted at all, But I liked I just used that 309 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: phrase whenever things I don't like hair happening. What is this? 310 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: But I don't know what it means. I'm personally still 311 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: not over that shrewder breakaway lob dunk. That was like, 312 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, it is the sort of oop that I 313 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: would throw to Lebron And then it was like went 314 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: around his right shin and it like we talked about 315 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: it last week. I'm not gonna stop talking about it 316 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: because I think it's the coolest, most athletic way I 317 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: have seen this season. He catches it like at his 318 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: right shoe and then smoothly like whips it around and 319 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: turns it into a windmill two handed reverse. It's one 320 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: of the coolest things I've ever seen. Like I don't 321 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: I tried to like Google to find it, and like 322 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: people aren't talking that much about it. But go do 323 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: yourself a favor and go into the footnotes of this 324 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: episode and we'll link off to it. You have a 325 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: chance a little bit of a vis right, they have 326 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: seven stuff. Just take it away to shroud from Shrouder. 327 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this crowd is your fire with that play. 328 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: Is there any thirty eight year old that can do that? 329 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: From Trey? And I could obviously do that, I mean yeah, yeah, 330 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: I never said what height Trey. I didn't. I didn't 331 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: even really realize how bad of a labbot Long was 332 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: by Dennis Shrewder. Get above his own shoulder, no one. 333 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: Here's a free one for all the content creators out there. 334 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: I want to see a super cut of the worst 335 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: lobs ever thrown to Lebron. Yeah, just salvaged by his 336 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: pure athletics. I think, like one of his coolest highlights 337 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: from his first tenure in Cleveland, so you know, like 338 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: oh nine or something like that. I think it's more 339 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: Williams who throws him a lob like not even close 340 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: to the hoop, probably three ft up into the right 341 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: of even the square on the backboard, and the highlight 342 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: is just Lebron jumping up to catch it so it 343 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: doesn't go out of bounds. And it's unbelievable. That was 344 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: the wonder where people are like, is this like the 345 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: like most obscene jump we've ever seen in our kind? Yeah, 346 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: it's like he made catching a pass looking credible. That's all, 347 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: just went up and jumped and caught it. So I'm 348 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: sure between that, Dennis Shrewder all these other players over 349 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: the last twenty years, you could easily put together a 350 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: terrible Lobs compilation for Lebron. Yeah. I just like, yeah, 351 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: a lob makes tape. Yeah, wait, hold on, that's I 352 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: just want to see this one more times. Comes in, 353 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: comes down and like almost almost hits his head on 354 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: the rim on the way down from catching the ball. Yeah, 355 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: just throwing up. Yeah, man, But the Lakers are in it. 356 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: They haven't had a lot of time with both Lebron 357 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: and a d but they're they're winning some games. Lebrons 358 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: looked incredible, averaging thirty eight since his thirty eighth birthday. 359 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: Prior to missing Monday's game against the Nuggets with ankle soreness. 360 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: The Lakers were on a four oh streak. Lebron over 361 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: that stretch forty seven points, nine boards tennisis forty three points, 362 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: eleven boards, six assist ten and seven thirty seven and 363 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: seven yeah, yeah and seven. That's off night for him, 364 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's he has been on one. You talk 365 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: about like players will have a showcase game, or they'll 366 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: decide to showcase the players, so they get a whole 367 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: bunch more minutes and you know, a whole bunch more 368 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: touches the show. Yeah, look at this, I can raise 369 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: my trade value. It's almost the exact opposite with Lebron. 370 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: It's like Lebron Showcase right now, where he's just balling 371 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: so hard and putting up such crazy numbers that it's like, look, 372 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: how good I am. You need to make some trades. 373 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: Better support me here because I still got it. I 374 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: still got quite a bit here. This is not just 375 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: a crowning glory kind of season. He's really turning it 376 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: on right now. Westbrook is at least being productive putting 377 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: up the numbers, balling out of his mind right now, 378 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: and Dennis Shrewder seems to have found a little bit 379 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: of a fountain of youth. They put together a decent 380 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: little streak here. It started by beating up on some 381 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: bad teams, but they're getting decent victories, and Lebron, with 382 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: the way he's playing, undeniably the Lakers have a shot 383 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: in any sort of playoff series. Yeah. I love to 384 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: hear that. I mean, yeah, I think it's it's it's 385 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: good to see that positive movement. But yeah, to your point, 386 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: it's like, so we have this guy who's Lebron James 387 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: and he's playing like this, So what's your move? Uh? 388 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: And I hope that move is made. Amount of NBA 389 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: basketball that he has played and he's still doing that 390 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: is pretty But Jack also, like you see my mixtape 391 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: Brot mix tape, you know, almost almost putting you. No, no, 392 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: it's good, like I'm not. We said we weren't going 393 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: to talk about it on the episode, right, Well you 394 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: said it would be a bad look for me or no, 395 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: people weren't ready and but yeah, no, it's really cool. Thanks. 396 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: All right, well let's take a quick break and we'll 397 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: keep talking to NBA while I bask in Jack's wonderful compliment. 398 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: After this and we're back. Some pretty good performances since 399 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: last we spoke listeners around the league. I mean, Harris 400 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: and Barnes thirty points on eleven from thirteen, six for 401 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: seven from deep against Orlando. I was like watching the 402 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: you know when they cut together all the all the 403 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: buckets and like some of the passes that he is 404 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: he is being well fed. There's a good passing thought 405 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: it was a Wou Tang interstitial like interlude beating him 406 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: if him. I'm happy for Harrison barnes Man. He's been 407 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: on Sacramento through some lean years. He's trade rumors for 408 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: a long long time, but somehow he's stuck around long 409 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: enough to where they're good and they're super fun to watch. 410 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: So I'm happy that he's getting to have some monster 411 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: games here and there. Yeah, totally yeah. Keegan Murray also 412 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: had a fantastic night last night too. I think fifteen 413 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: points on five or six from three and only twenty 414 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: five minutes. So good. It's you know, it's it's great 415 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: to see them ascend like this. Like you said, it's 416 00:21:54,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: been seventeen years, seventeen years. Miles Turner put himself a 417 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: game earlier this week, twenty nine points, nine boards, four blocks, 418 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: including what wound up being a game saving block, and 419 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: a win over the Hornets. Again another person been involved 420 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: in a lot of trade rumors, and maybe we can 421 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: just enjoy watching him play basketball because he's pretty good. 422 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: I need him so a d complete the four get 423 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: over here still only though, I mean, he's so young. 424 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: That's the thing with Miles Turner. He's been around for 425 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: quite some time, been rumored to be on the move 426 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: since maybe last trade deadline, even through the summer obviously, 427 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: But now the Pacers are good and his instrumental in 428 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: their offense actually being good, so maybe not a big 429 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: hurry to get rid of him. I don't know, We'll see. 430 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 1: I think the night that he was drafted, they were like, 431 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: and the Pacers have acquired a great trade chip here 432 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: with Miles Turner, and I feel like I've just I've 433 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: only heard his name in trade rumors and also about 434 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: his lego collection, because he's got a great lego collection, 435 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I believe, Oh really, yeah, is he like a master? 436 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: But you don't know. I mean, look, I'm already feeling 437 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: holly inadequate about Lebron James. I don't need to then 438 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: be bested by someone with the same name as me, 439 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 1: with a better lego collection, who's young day yeah, with 440 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: a cooler spelling. No, I feel like that's the spelling 441 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: they'd give him him, like they'd give the name Miles 442 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: in a movie about like hackers that was like made 443 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: in the eighties or something. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I 444 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: remember I went to school with another kid who was 445 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: called m y l. E. S, and I told every 446 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: I remember being so like in my bag about it. 447 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: I was like that, that's not He's not really a Miles. 448 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: That's not how you spell that. Also, shout out to 449 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: the real one, Miles Davis, who's my namesake, you know, 450 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: from Bolton, Illinois. Yeah, why would you not use the 451 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: spelling of Miles Davis? The coolest human whoever? Literally the 452 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: birth of cool? Like yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean 453 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: we saw Billy Mason, consider me Miles Davis. That's right, 454 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: Lori marken In putting up a forty nine. Yeah, I 455 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: mean he's doing all right. He's doing all right. The 456 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: bulls gave up on him too early, but they never 457 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: used him like this, Like this is crazy. He's got 458 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: like seventy dunks and seventy made threes on the year. 459 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. And he I think he had eight alone 460 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: in the game against the Balls. He had a huge 461 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: one on Vuchevich's head. There's so much space out there. 462 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: He looks athletic. Will hardly figured out how to use marketing, 463 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: And it was just like he just watched him on 464 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: the finished national team. He's like, let's get a ball, 465 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: let's have him do some SFF. Now he's doing everything. 466 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: I thought we weren't going to go for it, but 467 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: I guess this guy's got something. Although like recently what 468 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: they've they've started to, you know, things are wobbling a 469 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: bit over there in Utah. Yeah, getting a little wobbly. 470 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: But but he's still in his eye. So super producer 471 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: Jabari and I were having a disagreement because he's like, 472 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: watch out. Marketing might make some noise in the most 473 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: imp rooved conversation, but I think I don't know. It 474 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: feels like it's still chaise, like made in the chase 475 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: on the chaise laune Ah, Yes, shout out wet leg 476 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: But I don't know Mark market AND's averaging thirty plus 477 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: over his last ten. It's just it does. It does 478 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: feel though, like s is in the same category as 479 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: like they gave it to freaking Jaw last year. You 480 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: know they're getting they're gonna do somebody who's just making 481 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: the leap to super superstar is my prediction. But Lorie 482 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: feels like the kind of most improved story, you know 483 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, that's true. That's the traditional case, right, 484 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: Like a guy who was existing in the NBA a 485 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: rotation player and now like Market is going to be 486 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: an All Star at least very he should games in 487 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: Utah he probably will be. But the more modern case, 488 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: no doubt, it is like a John Morant style. This 489 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: guy is not quite the m v P, but he's 490 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: playing in an MVP level and that is Jay. So 491 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: it's no surprise those guys are kind of the two 492 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: favorites right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. We give 493 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: a shout out to one of our fans. We're trying 494 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: to get our listeners more involved, and we found out 495 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: based on some messages he's sending us through the media. 496 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: And that might sound creepy, but Greg Popovich is sending 497 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: us messages through the media because he just put in 498 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: one of our suggestions. But what we want to bring 499 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: back to the league, I think I think it's fair 500 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: to say, you know, this podcast is listened to far 501 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: and wide by the most serious basketball intellectuals when it 502 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: comes to the game of basketball. But here's the great 503 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: For sure, it's much more difficult to play defense these days. 504 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: So many people that can shoot threes. Ye, shot making. 505 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: The quantity is massive going out pretty quickly. Yep, ye, 506 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: people are going to score the game averages are going 507 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: to go up. Naturally. We've been talking about people scoring 508 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: on very difficult to very do you know, can you 509 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: still work, you know, on the half court defense? But 510 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: in transition, what's the point when people can spread the 511 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: court the way NBA players can acting shoot? It's obviously 512 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: an advantage. I've said before here it is. I'm just 513 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: hoping that the league ends up with a four point 514 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: shot or five point shot. Thank you. There it is. 515 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: Folks himself agrees with us. Don't play the part after 516 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: that where he says, then it can be an absolute 517 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: surges um. He knows you've been We've been trying to 518 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: rock and jockify the league for a minute now, and 519 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: this is what I need from you, Coach Papovitch is 520 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: just next press conference, where there's little downtime, you got 521 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: to mention our suggestion that Zion be allowed to enter 522 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: the arena on a fan boat and where overall is 523 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: during the game, if you're truly a fan with the 524 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: boots built in, Yes, like we needed professional wrestling of 525 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: five Zion Williamson, and I'm sure you agree. I don't 526 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: even have to ask if you agree, so quote that 527 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: one next I do Scion should enter wearing fishing waiters. 528 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: I want to agree on that, and I would say 529 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: you should get a different number of points for every 530 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: line you shoot behind. You make it past five points, 531 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: you make it past the other teams three point lines. Okay, 532 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: right right, right, yeah. I was saying what they should 533 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: do is just randomly light up a spot on the 534 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: court that if you if you shoot from that spot, 535 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: like you will get whatever that value is. So like 536 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: the five pointer spot just lit up in the corner 537 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: and they're like, get do we get? Do we get 538 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: to it? And then it goes out and like sorry, three, 539 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: gotta be quicker next time. I love it. I love 540 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: the idea of like an offensive team trying to pretend 541 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: like they don't see it. Right, We're not going for that, 542 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: We're not going You can imagine that's for that's for 543 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: waste roles. That would be the new Jose Alvarado move. 544 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: Somebody would just hang out in one spot hoping it 545 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: lights up eventually, still here until the ten pointer comes. 546 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's take another break and we'll come back 547 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: and put Mr Tray Kirby through the rapid fire round 548 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: of questions. Right after this, your buns warming up. Let's 549 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: buns warming up because you're about to be on the 550 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: hot seat, My friend, you love that one? Do I 551 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: say that a lot? He said, yeah, a couple of times. 552 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: But it's cool. Why why don't you show your mix tape? Actually, 553 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: why don't you actually put that out there? Let's see it? Man, 554 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: come on you As long as you're age eight, mix 555 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: tape is better than age thirty seven. Knock, I was, 556 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: I was, I was on fire thirty seven. Man kind, 557 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm struggling at the moment that Broadway Joe would say, 558 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: all right, let's say a break. It will be right 559 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: back now we're back. Man. I just like to watch 560 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: him wet, you know what I mean? Just o, my 561 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: buns are getting hot over here, you know TM, He's thinking, 562 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: what kind of a terrible mistake have I just made 563 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: agreeing to be on this show? Well, guess what, Trey, 564 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: You're about to enter the quickest segment of questioning in 565 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: a podcast that has to do with basketball in conjunction 566 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: with the NBA and I Heart Radio. Okay, very specific. Yeah, 567 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: We'll get ready because what we're gonna do is we're 568 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: gonna ask you some questions. Don't think don't elaborate, just 569 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: respond quickly, just chest pass it right back, do not 570 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: don't hold it up. If you hold it up, we 571 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: are going to get angry at you. So I'm just 572 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: putting that out there, right, fury perfect. Ready, we're about 573 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: to do the three man we've of questioning starting now, 574 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: start the clock. Um, the clock starter guy, it's not 575 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: really kind kind he's a kindness. But I even I 576 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: even explained to him it wasn't necessarily that it's at him. 577 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: It's more just the energy. I'm music to set up 578 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: the segment so he sounds when you do it, as 579 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: he put it, I think I think people are projecting anyway. 580 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, I see in the chat. Yeah, your name 581 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: is Brian. We get it all right, now start the clock. 582 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't want to personalize that. All right, 583 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: you want to go first, you want me to go first? Well, 584 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: this is already taking a long time. So yeah, yeah, 585 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: here we go. Rock paper scissors, Shoot, rock paper scissors shoot. Alright, alright, 586 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I'm surprised. I thought this was a basketball podcast. 587 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: We're scared. Is Jalen Rose's hair too too good to 588 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: be true? Yes? Okay, it's too good to be true. 589 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful, unbelievable. How could it be? Yeah, that's 590 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: all I mean, who knows how, who knows how it exists? Uh? 591 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: But what somebody who became famous looking bald and let 592 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: where's a great bald head? You know, just brought it 593 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: back on us, theroline, one of the great just brought 594 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: it back. Yeah. Nothing else to say on that. Well, honestly, 595 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. Here's the next question, Trey. Uh, here's 596 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: the next question, my man. You got the chance to 597 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: win ten thou my man, my man, my man, Trey. 598 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt you, man, but I told you 599 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: we gotta keep this thing moving. You've got the chance 600 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: to win ten K to make a layup with each 601 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: chance twenty five k to make five of five free throws, 602 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: or a hundred thousand dollars to make at least four 603 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: or five from deep. Which challenge you taken a hundred 604 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: large a hundred to make four from four? Yes. For 605 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: the purposes of this thought experiment, yes, we will say 606 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: that I'm taking the lamps, taking the laps. I'm taking 607 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: the laps. I'm a righty. One of my New Year's 608 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: resolutions was to finish with my left hand more often, 609 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: So I think that would be a good incentive. I 610 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: don't have enough comfid thisn's in my shop at age 611 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 1: thirty eight. You know, if you're talking to me at 612 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: age twenty eight, I got enough confidence in my shop. 613 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: But uh really know I'm making the layups. Okay, I 614 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: didn't realize making the layups, I'll probably got a better 615 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: chance of making the threes than the free throws. To 616 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: be honest with you, who practices free throws at our 617 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: age now? And after you make the lefty layup, you 618 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: stare at your left hand. I honestly do that every 619 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: time I make the lefty lamp playing with you know 620 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: Grandpa's The way Shack came down the court looking at 621 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: like praising that hand is still one of the best 622 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: things I've ever seen. Great celebration, Trey. We gotta keep 623 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: this thing moving. Many come on, we got we got 624 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: that's my that's my faut, that's my bad. What is 625 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: your ultimate NBA jam? Do and don't say m jam pip, 626 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: don't say m J and pipping? How about Larry Johnson 627 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: the lines in Morning Dad? That was a good one. Yeah, 628 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: I think that would probably my choice. Yeah, you gotta 629 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: have pushing. It's all about pushing uh in NBA jam. Uh. 630 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: That's where I'm going. That' where I'm going. It's also 631 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: a heavy nineties five. Okay. If the NBA JAM rules 632 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: were the actual rules of the NBA, who do we like? 633 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: Lebron would be unstoppable, right, like if you could just 634 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: push people, like throw people off the court, unstoppable, Your 635 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: honest would be unstoppable. And Bead and bed would probably 636 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: might be guys because Embad is secretly fo and fifty 637 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: pounds like that man is made of granite. He like 638 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: he waves his arm and people get hurt. So yeah, 639 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: and bead would be difficult. Yeah. Scientists said they had 640 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: found the densest material in the universe, and I think 641 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: that they were just just shuring at Joel Ebid. We're 642 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: naming like all all stars, right, like, these are all 643 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: players who are in the m v P combo. What 644 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: about though, if it was NBA JAM rules, who that's like, 645 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, a role player marginal third star becomes an 646 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: m VP candidate or something like that. I would have 647 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: to think about that one, Like, who's a guy like 648 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: Andre Drummond would he suddenly get even better if he 649 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: didn't have to do any fancy stuff and he was 650 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: just allowed to just didn't have to cross check. Yeah, 651 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: the yeah, I mean it would be the MVP Award 652 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: would be named after Charles Oakley because but yeah, Zion 653 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: would be also pretty unstimpable. He'd probably be the cheap 654 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: cod like I feel like he would have a huge 655 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: buff as we say in the video game world. He 656 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't get nerf down. They wouldn't nerf down. That count 657 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: all kinds of buffs and people get all angry, and 658 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tray. We have to keep this going, so 659 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: I do have to ask you our next question. Is 660 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: the best passing big man of all time the Joker 661 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: himself outside of Brad Miller. Absolutely, yes, you know, Brad 662 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: was set in the table in the two before you 663 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: knew that guys that were seven ft tall were allowed 664 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: to pass. Now we can now we know, so Yoki 665 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: just taking it to the next level. Yeah, I mean, 666 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: obviously he's the best passing big man of all time. 667 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 1: The guy's a center and he's probably the best passer 668 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: in the league right now during the most skilled era 669 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: in any history. So it's hard to argue. But I 670 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: will always love Brad Miller throwing a back door pass 671 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: even if it's not open, because sometimes the joker will 672 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: throw some passes like he he has off speed passes 673 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: where it like seems like he threw it slow on purpose, 674 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: and its just like it's like a a knuckleball that 675 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: like flutters through five sets of hands, like he is 676 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: really next level. Well, he's just always threading needles you 677 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: didn't know existed. Yeah, you're like what and even defenders 678 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: like you've figured out that my arm would go up 679 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: and then you threw it underneath my armpit because you 680 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: just vibed it. Okay, okay, sir. Right, And finally, Trey, 681 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: we do have to ask you Jack or Miles. I 682 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: gotta go Miles, gotta go Miles today. It's the connection. 683 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's not Jack, No, it's great. Miles was 684 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: very thirsty this week. Last week he was he was 685 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: really thirsty. He was like, you know, coming with the research. 686 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: He was showing coming with it basketball card right when 687 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: you got on. Uh yeah, I said, look you know 688 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: what's wild though, Look I'm the same age. Look at 689 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: my beard. Look none of it connects. Yeah, no, it's 690 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: great flattery will get everywhere. Thank you. I got enough 691 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: beard for a little much. We said, I love your beard. 692 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: I wish I could just curl up and go to 693 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: sleep in it. Yeah, that was a lot, but you made, 694 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: you made made. Bryan cut that out at the top 695 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: of the show, so the listeners didn't hear that part. Okay. 696 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: I like how we're referencing the edit as the show 697 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: kind of some inside baseball. Oh man. But Trey Man, 698 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on Miles and 699 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: Jack got mad boost these. Um where can people find you? 700 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: Follow you, listen to you, check you out, support you, etcetera. 701 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm at Trey Kirby t r E y k e 702 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: r b y everywhere. I work for the No Dunks, Inc. Podcast. 703 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: You can find us everywhere. We do live podcast ten 704 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: a m Eastern every day, Monday through Friday. Throughout the season. 705 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 1: We do a bunch of extra shows as well. Uh yeah, 706 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: we're talking basketball all the time. Ball. Yeah. Go check 707 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: them out for a pleasure having you known. Thanks for 708 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: having me guys really fun and also be sure to 709 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: follow us at mad boost these m A D B 710 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: O O S T I Yes on Twitter and we 711 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: asked some of the listeners on Twitter, you know what 712 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: of the teams that are currently on the outside of 713 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: the plane race would eventually make it in and our boost. 714 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: These listeners of the week were at Ja Barata z 715 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 1: h Okay, yeah, oh, you thought you were gonna catch 716 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: me crying because he didn't pick me. Yeah, no, that's 717 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: I can clean it up real nice. I got a 718 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: lot of experience pretending to my eye again, sweating from 719 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: my eyes again. That's all. Ja Barata said, No one 720 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: from the Eastern Conference. But the Lakers and the Wolves 721 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: leap frog the Jazz and Blazers. WHOA, I don't know. 722 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: I think the Blazer is still going to do it. 723 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: I think the Lakers popped in there. I don't know 724 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: about those. We'll see if we I mean, if we 725 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: can get everybody playing out of their minds and a 726 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: d comes back. You know, on some level, Jabari and 727 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 1: I were saying, you know, you got to be careful 728 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: with you know, you can only use a paper towel 729 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: so many times. We have to let a chip before 730 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: you re used. And also at a J. Kramer said, 731 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: raptors will make it in. Okay, okay, okay, you know 732 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: the North all right, y'all. Well, thanks so much for listening. 733 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with even more basketball action. 734 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: Until then, take care of yourself. We see a bye 735 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: bye