1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how stup 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb, and I'm Christian Seger and 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm Joe mcclormack, and we are here to do one 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: of our I Guess quarterly Now listener mail episodes. Well, 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: we receive a lot of feedback from from listeners. We 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: get it on what we get via email, we get 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: through social media, and uh, we don't have time on 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: the episodes themselves really to get into the listener mail 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: as much, and we get so much good content we 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: decided to devote to the occasional episode to it. Yeah, 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: and we really do get so much great correspondence from 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: from all you guys out there that we don't have 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: time to read it. Also, if you send us something 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: and you you poured your heart out to us and 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: we don't have time to read it today, please don't 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: take that as a slide against you. We just get 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: so much I think of stuff that there's no way 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: for us to read it all. It would be a 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: whole another podcast, not to like two to our own horn. 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: But I actually probably have like a moment maybe you 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: guys have this to like every day where I opened 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: up the listener mail folder and feel a little guilty 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, I still haven't even like had 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: a chance to go back and read like the last 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 1: six of these, just because we're so slammed. Yeah. Indeed, 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: often just being the heat of getting a stuff together 28 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: for a podcast episode or some other kind of commitment 29 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: around here, and I just have to make a mental 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: bookmark to come back to this individual in their their comments. 31 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: And then we've got that whole other folder of stalker mail, 32 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: which you know, yeah, those that spend time on that, Yeah, 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: that was definitely that is a thick folder and waterproof 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: by necessity. All right, Well, let's call the robot over here, um, 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: and let's see what what Carney has for us. All right, 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: it looks like the first thing Carney has for us 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: here is from our listener. No. Well, regarding the Chinese 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: zodiac episode that Robert and I did, and we got 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: a lot of great feedback on the Chinese zodiacs, is 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: just one of them. It's Noel rights. Hi, guys, I 41 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: know why so many dragon children were born in nineteen 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: eighty eight. Eight is a good luck number. And since 43 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: the year was eighty eight. It was like a double 44 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: good year, making a triple good year for having a 45 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: baby dragon. Chinese culture has impacted Filipino culture with the 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: melting pot of Asians in the Philippines. Even though my 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: parents are Filipino relatives urged them to get married in 48 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight instead of when they actually got married 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty seven. But I guess seven was a 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: lucky enough number for them. In nineteen eight was booked 51 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: for marriages. I guess booked no more marriages this year. Yeah, 52 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: they probably like every every uh justice of the peace 53 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: slash priest I guess was unavailable. Well, that makes sense. 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: That goes that ties into some of the issues we 55 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: were talking about with having these boom years for births, 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: because that means more hospital beds are going to be 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: filled for that birth year, and then that child as 58 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: they grow older, like their their their year in school 59 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: is always just going to be extra packed when they 60 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: all enter the workforce, more competitors. This reminds me of 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: the thing we were talking about in the office recently 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: about the Zeka virus and how because so many people 63 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: are being told that, you know, they shouldn't be having 64 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: kids because of the Zeka virus, that there's going to 65 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: be like a big jump in population, like say, eighteen 66 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: twenty years from now. Yeah. Well, anyway, Noel continues, my 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: parents also didn't choose to go for a dragon baby 68 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: after they married. I was born in nineteen as a 69 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: gold metal element of goat, gold goat, that's beautiful. That's like, 70 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: that's the thing that would be condemned in the Bible 71 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: or something. I don't I don't know what my metal is. 72 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: I just know my my animal. You mean your element. Sorry, 73 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: you could be like wood or metal, but gold is 74 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: is why is it gold? Well, it gets very complicated, 75 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: and it's important to to to reiterate that we didn't 76 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: go into all the depth about the inner working of 77 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: Chinese zodiac in that episode, but we did hear back 78 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: in great depth from a out of our listeners on 79 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: this subject. Anyway, Noel continues about the gold goat. She says, 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: they are supposed to be ambitious and kind hearted, with 81 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: a strong sense of responsibility and work, but sometimes too stubborn. 82 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: Compared to the other goat elements, they seem more like 83 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: a dragon, or maybe that's just me hoping to be 84 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: like a dragon. I do not believe in astrology, but 85 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: it's nice to have a mascot to cheer for your 86 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: positive traits. Sincerely, Noel Uh and I like the sentiment 87 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: of the inter here because this is something we talked 88 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: about in the episode. It's my theory that you don't 89 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: have to believe in astrology to be affected by it, 90 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: Like you don't have to believe it taps into a 91 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: true magical power or or has real predictive power over 92 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: personalities for it to have some kind of significance to you, 93 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: because we just we're always reaching out for meaning and 94 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: significance in our life, and any kind of framework people 95 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: come up with, even if there's no real magic to it, 96 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 1: it's kind of easy to to feel like there's something 97 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: to it. Yeah. Plus, I mean there have been studies 98 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: we've we've talked about it on the show, and I 99 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: think so much older episodes about how the research has 100 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: has proven that just symbols in the world around us 101 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: affect us subconsciously. So if you know, if the symbol 102 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: for Coca Cola can do that to us, then certainly 103 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: something is is culturally ingrained as gold goat. Certainly that 104 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: can work. It's magic on us as well, especially if 105 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: it's something that you're told from a very young age 106 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: you are this thing. Yeah. Now, our listener, Elizabeth, who 107 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: did grow up in the Chinese household, also got in 108 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: touch with us about the Chinese Zodiac episode. Yes, uh 109 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: she did, and and really she wrote a tremendous amount 110 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: to us, really fleshed out her thoughts on it um 111 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: and it shared some just extensive great thoughts on the 112 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: zodiac episode, including some areas that we just didn't have 113 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: time to explore as much, the cultural and mythological significance 114 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: of the of the Chinese dragon, the intricacies of the 115 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Chinese zodiacal system, and extended thoughts on the shape of 116 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: the traditional family. So we can't read it all here. Again, 117 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: thanks Elizabeth for sharing it with us, But we did 118 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: want to hit just a few key points that I 119 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: think contribute to the episode. Yeah. One of them was 120 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: that Elizabeth grew up reading books on the Chinese horoscopes 121 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: by somebody named Theodora Allow and she recommends Lao's books 122 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: if you're interested in in an introduction to the Chinese zodiac. 123 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: But also she she's got great stories about how She 124 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: also says she doesn't really ascribe to the Chinese zodiac, 125 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: like she doesn't believe it has true magic power, but 126 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: she sort of lives her life according to it anyway, 127 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: almost as if like there's there's valence available there. Yeah, 128 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: I get that. Like it's like, uh, I dabbled in 129 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: fung shue for like a year in her apartment, like 130 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: when it got a book and everything, and was like, no, Kelly, 131 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: the table has to go here, you know that kind 132 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: of thing. But you know, I didn't actually believe in 133 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: any kind of like symbolic magic or anything like that 134 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: going on. It was just sort of a system to 135 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: help you organize life. Yeah, I shouldn't have overstated. I 136 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: didn't mean to say that she lives her life according 137 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: to it, but she makes some decisions according to it, 138 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: like like how she arranges the furniture in her house. 139 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: She mentioned it really okay, Yeah, but she also had 140 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: some really interesting, just individual points we wanted to highlight. Again. 141 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Her email was too long to read all of it, 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: but one of them was about the dragon and the episode. 143 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: We mentioned that the dragon is the only animal in 144 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: the Chinese zodiac that's purely mythical. It has no real 145 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: world equivalent, But according to Elizabeth, that's not exactly the case. Yeah, 146 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: she says, quote. It's also not entirely true that the 147 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: dragon has no real world equivalent the dragons real world 148 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: animal is a sea horse, because seahorses were believed to 149 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: be baby dragons because you know, they look like dragons 150 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: and they lived in the law before. Yeah, I would 151 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: have assumed that it was like a Komodo dragon like that. 152 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: That seems like what would be the real world equivalent, 153 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: but it probably the I have no idea what the 154 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: actual natural habitat of a komodo is. Well, I can 155 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: see where this would this would make sense because we 156 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: just us a little bit about how the celestial dragon 157 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: is kind of a composite of all these other animals, 158 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: Like there's a little horse in there, there's a little 159 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: potentially a little a clam in there as well, Chimera. Yeah, 160 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: very much. So. I can imagine the sea horse making 161 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: sense because you look at a sea horse, and a 162 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: sea horse is really weird and itself looks kind of 163 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: like a co laubrate. You know. The thing I'd say 164 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: about the Komodo dragon is I think that may sort 165 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: of conflate the ideas of the Western dragon with the 166 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: Eastern dragon. Yes, I think the Eastern dragon or the 167 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: Chinese dragon is less like a lizard than the dragon 168 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: we get from from maybe Middle Eastern or European folklore. Yeah, yeah, 169 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: that's true. As while you're right having grown up in Singapore, 170 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: which is something we're gonna talking about with another listener. Now, 171 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: that's definitely true. So Elizabeth also shares a quote for me. 172 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: My chart is four year snake, our monkey month, and 173 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: I think day of the sheet, but like I said, 174 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter for names. But I'm also born in 175 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: the US, which was founded in seventeen seventy six, the 176 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: year of the Fire Monkey, which we were in again. 177 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: So the result of my chart was that I had 178 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: a crap town of fire and water. So I just 179 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: wanted to share this bit just because I think it 180 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: gives you an idea of what sort of deeper read 181 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: of one zodiac would be. Yeah, this is preceding this. 182 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Elizabeth goes into a lot of detail about how it's 183 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: not just the year, but as we mentioned in the episode, 184 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: it's other elements of time that affect the things that 185 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: are supposed to be true about you according to the 186 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, your horoscope, so it would be our of 187 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: the day you're born, day, day of the week I 188 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: think that you're born, and so forth. Hey, so I've 189 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: got a question about that episode. Maybe now is a 190 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: good time, because I don't I'm assuming you didn't cover 191 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: it in in the episode itself. The photo that you 192 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: guys used for one of the thumbnails on that of 193 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: that like giant sculpture of like a robot fire monkey. 194 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: Oh what's that all about? Okay? So that was that 195 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: was a photograph of a sculpture, and that was actually 196 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: on the now House Stuff Works Now article that I did. 197 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: That tied in with ten yeah, talking about how they 198 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: how some experts think that the year of the fire Monkey, 199 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: which we're in now will impact the birth rate. And 200 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: that's just a really cool Transformers statue of the fire Monkey. Yeah, 201 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: it was amazing. I was really impressed by the whole thing. 202 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: So I was curious if they had like some I 203 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: don't know, like other than like making a cool giant 204 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: Transformer monkey, if there was some symbolism too. I did 205 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: not read an artist's statement on it, but but yeah, 206 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: you can really go nuts just looking at all the 207 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: crazy cool artistic interpretations of the of the zodiac animals. Yeah, 208 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: there were a lot of great sculptures I've never seen before, 209 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: but only I saw because you turned them up for 210 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: for that episode. I do think this is also really 211 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: cool that Elizabeth points out about seventeen seventy six being 212 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: the year of the fire Monkey. Now she she tells 213 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: us again that she grew up in a Chinese household, 214 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: but in the United States, so she's a resident of 215 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: the US. And this is another thing we talked about 216 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: in the episode, is sort of the cross cultural uh 217 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: impact of the Chinese zodiac. For example, we found that 218 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: though this probably was not impacted by people choosing this 219 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: on purpose, the Forbes list of Richest Americans also is 220 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: overrepresents dragons, which is kind of strange because you wouldn't 221 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: expect the Chinese zodiac to have any influence on American birthrates. 222 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a coincidence. Who knows it could be. 223 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: And I'm going to read one more quote from her, 224 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: and this I think just expands nicely on some of 225 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: the issues that we touched on in trying to you know, 226 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: uh to in discussing why the dragon year birthrate spike 227 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: is a modern phenomenon, Okay, she says being able to 228 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: choose when you have kids as a luxury. Uh, it's 229 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: a luxury of those who can afford it and are able. 230 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: In modern times and with more modern medical care, there 231 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: is more access to health resources and such. They give 232 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: you in ability to care and make sure your offspring live, 233 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: aside from things like the one child policy or the 234 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: cultural revolution getting in the way. So there's just now 235 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: engine all more ability to choose, whereas before you flat 236 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: out and needed kids to live. China was also very confusion. 237 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: So in that belief system, there is a responsibility to 238 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: carry on the family name and line, so you try 239 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: to have as many kids as possible so that one 240 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: of them would survive into adulthood to take care of 241 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: you an old age. And also since a lot of 242 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: its rural, you had more help to work the field. 243 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: Surviving is a bit more important than giving a damn 244 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: when your kids are born or even sometimes what gender 245 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, so thanks Elizabeth. This whole email was 246 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: really great. Again, I regret that we couldn't read the 247 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: whole thing, but but it was really awesome, So thanks 248 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: for getting in touch. Okay, So this next one that's 249 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: coming out of old Carney over here. It looks like 250 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: it's directed to you guys about an episode you did, 251 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: but I actually pulled it because it's connected with me personally, 252 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: and I wrote this guy back. His name is Gary. 253 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: Gary says, gentlemen, longtime listener, first time emailer. Where a 254 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: Canadian family that moved to Singapore a couple of years ago. 255 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: I recently listened to your podcast on moral ethical decisi 256 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: Asians and heard you mentioned the type posen festival. Now 257 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: we should quickly say what the context of that was 258 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: in the episode. Yes, this was the New Year's episode 259 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: and the particular study, which I think has actually come 260 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: up in a couple of different podcast episodes. Um. Now 261 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: over the years, I had to do with just how 262 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: participating or even witnessing ritual pain uh can can have 263 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: an impact on your on how much money you give 264 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: to the poor, on how how kindly you treat your 265 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: follow humans. So if you want to be a better person, 266 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: do some ritual pain, Yeah, go for it. So this 267 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: is what the festival is about. I'm assuming it has 268 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: a connection to that. It has, Yes, that's I think 269 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: that's one element one element of it. Yes, well, Gary 270 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: says that festival is celebrated here in Singapore, and we 271 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: attended last year. Uh, it was definitely something that blew 272 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: our minds. My kids, they're eighteen has an eighteen year 273 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: old daughter and a fourteen year old son, refused to 274 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: attend this year. They were so freaked out by it. Additionally, 275 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: and interestingly, they also felt that as observers we were 276 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: some how intruding on a sacred pilgrimage and it didn't 277 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: feel right for them to gawk. Perhaps a generational gap, 278 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: But the view of my wife and I is that 279 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: as they closed down the streets and advertise it, so 280 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: they obviously want people to come out and attend and 281 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: watch it and buy drinks and food, et cetera. So 282 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: why not And he includes a link to the festival. 283 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: He says, I can't speak for elsewhere, but here they 284 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: parade several kilometers from one temple to another. This year 285 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: they allowed live music here for the first time in 286 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: for over forty years, and the participants increased. Not sure 287 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: on the overall attendants, but it's interesting the number of 288 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: people trying to get absolved of sins rose by having 289 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: live music. For your information, live music was banned by 290 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: Singapore forty two years ago, after the bands became competitive 291 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: and started to fist fight each other. Singapore has a 292 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: long memory. Below are some photos I took of the 293 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: two of the festival I thought you might find interesting. 294 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: If you are interested in posting them on your site, 295 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: you have my permission. Thanks for shutting some light the 296 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: moral decisions of the participants. And that's from Gary. So 297 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to read that one when it came in 298 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: because I grew up in Singapore. Um, I I spent 299 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: most of my high school years there, and it was 300 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: just fascinating to me to kind of like, it's been 301 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: over twenty years since I've been back to Singapore, but 302 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: to read the experience of another expatriate over there right 303 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: now kind of going through the same culture shock situation. 304 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: I told Gary that I sympathized with this children. It 305 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: was kind of the same way. I felt like it 306 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: was uh like rude in some some circumstances to watch 307 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: certain festivals that I didn't quite understand, you know. But um, 308 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: the live music thing, I don't know that may be 309 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: true on the legal books, but when I was there, 310 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: which was not forty two years ago, I went to 311 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: a lot of live music in fact, that's when I 312 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: first got involved in the punk scene. Well maybe he 313 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: just means live music associated with the festival. Yeah, maybe 314 00:15:54,640 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah. So like quick short story, Uh, when 315 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: I lived there, Rawlins band came and played there, and 316 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: uh they played the festival. Uh no, no, but apparently 317 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: there was some moh ing at the Ralins band show 318 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: and some chairs got broken in the venue. And uh 319 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: right after that mosh ing was was banned, or at 320 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: least that's what we were told. So uh, then maybe 321 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: like two or three months later, Fugazi played in Singapore 322 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: and I went to that show and the wall of 323 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: the show was lined with armed guards. They were all 324 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: carrying rifles and they were supposed to be there to 325 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: make sure that people didn't slam dance. Um. So it 326 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: is a little strange. I definitely remember some of the 327 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: odd governmental restrictions there what from from living there. And 328 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: I also lived there when the whole mic faith thing 329 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: happened as well too, so there was a lot of that. 330 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: This was the caning incident. It was Yeah, I went 331 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: to school with Mike Fae Um. So but why don't 332 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: you guys respond and since it was the episode that 333 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: you guys recorded. I guess my main response is, I mean, 334 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: having never actually witnessed the procession, only having seen some 335 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, really cool photos from it and read about it. Uh, 336 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, basically I can just apply my own experience 337 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: encountering other cultures and especially like temples and the like. 338 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: You know, it does between that weird space where you 339 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: you certainly don't want to be a gawker, You don't 340 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: want to be an ugly American in these these situations. 341 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: You want to but you want to experience that. You 342 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: want to see these things. And at the same time, 343 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: you you know that you're an outsider and you can't 344 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: possibly experience and and and understand it in the in 345 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: the same way. So it is an odd place to 346 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: find yourself. Yeah. Um, so I should say. Gary included 347 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: a bunch of photos of this email of their experience 348 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: at the festival, and now we may want to share 349 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: some of them. Yeah, we could throw them on a 350 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: post for sure, because they were They were stunning, Like 351 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: the hooks embedded in these guys backs that were in 352 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: the parade and everything. I never saw anything like that 353 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: when I lived there. But it might I told Gary this, 354 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: It might just have been because my parents probably you know, 355 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: didn't want me to go down to something like that 356 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: by myself, for the same obvious reasons of kind of 357 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: being a cultural gawker. Yeah. I mean, one thing is 358 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: important to keep in mind too about rituals of pain 359 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: is that will they exist around the world and in 360 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: various cultures, various religions. You find them in in Christianity, 361 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: do you find them in Islam? You find them in Hinduism, etcetera. 362 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: Uh So, Um, I actually did a gallery list on 363 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: stuff to bull your mind dot come a while back, um, 364 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: compiling some of these, so I'll make sure that we 365 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: linked to that as well on the landing page for 366 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: this episode. Yeah that sounds fun alright, Listener David writes 367 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: in David says, so, just a note about solar sales 368 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: from your Space Mirrors episode. You couldn't use a laser 369 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: to push a solar sale. That would violate Newton's third 370 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: law of motion and would be the same concept as 371 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: saying you could pull yourself to the ceiling by tugging 372 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: on your belt loops or blowing a sale with a fan. 373 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: So anything the laser mounted on the ship shot out 374 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: would get the same force back that would result and 375 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: zero motion. And you responded to this, right, So I 376 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: don't think the idea was that the laser was mounted 377 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: on the ship, right, Yeah, So that the idea here 378 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: is the laser would not be mounted on the ship, 379 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: but rather would be mounted somewhere else, providing a new wind, 380 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: a new solar wind, a laser wind for that vessel 381 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: to sail on. UM And if anyone wants some more 382 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: information about this concept, actually did an article on the 383 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: subject years ago after interviewing Dr Gregory L. Matt Love. 384 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: You can find this at Discovery dot com. The title 385 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: of the article is our Solar Sales the Future of 386 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: Space Travel. Matt laff is UM an expert in the field, 387 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: and just it was just really nice guy to talk 388 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: to on the topic. But yeah, I U exchanged a 389 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: few different emails with David about this, uh and and 390 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that anyone else listening 391 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: UH didn't get that idea, Like maybe we didn't state 392 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: it or I didn't state it as well as I 393 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: could have. Also, David is a long haul trucker and 394 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: listens to our show on the road. Yeah, so we 395 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: definitely want to give a shout out to Dave and 396 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: any other truckers out there listening to us right now. 397 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: We've heard from a few of you over the years, 398 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: and we're always glad to hear that we're able to 399 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: help make those lengthy jaunts a little easier. My brother 400 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: in laws a trucker, I wonder if he listens to 401 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: the show. Cool. Oh, Carney is handing me another email 402 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: here and it seems to be a covered in a 403 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: blue luminescence. You know what that means. It's time for 404 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: another Will of the Whisp story. Now. Way back last October, 405 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: we did an episode about Will of the Wisp and 406 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: about how it has It seems to have partially disappeared 407 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: from the world. People don't seem to be reporting Will 408 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: of the Whisp phenomenon as often as they used to, 409 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: but we asked our listeners, have you seen a Will 410 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: of the Whisp? Let us know and maybe maybe we 411 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: can help collect enough stories that will give us more 412 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: information about what it really is. We've heard from at 413 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: least two or three people on this Yeah, we've heard 414 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: several people to all those stories. And here's one more 415 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: from our listener, Glenn. So Glenn says, I just listened 416 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: to your Will of the Whisp podcast, and I wanted 417 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: to share an experience I recently had with you. It's 418 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: mid October, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and I'm on a date with 419 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: a girl I was seeing for the first time. I 420 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: decided to take her to this spot just southeast of 421 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: Milwaukee and St. Francis. There's a condominium apartment along the 422 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: lake shore that as a footpath running along the backside 423 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: of the condos, following the lake shore. At the northernmost 424 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: end of the path, there's a man made pond that's 425 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: on a hill which is surrounded by breakwater that's been 426 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: rocked off and diverted, so out to end it goes 427 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: lake rocks, lakewater, then the hill, and then the pond, 428 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: so it's fairly marshy as far as man made landscapes go. 429 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: At the edge of the pond, there's some benches that 430 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: look over the entire cityscape. Great view. So I take 431 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: her there and as we were relaxing taking in the site, 432 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: we can see a blue pulsating light down the hill, 433 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: hovering just along the water line of the lake. It's 434 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: a fairly intense light, almost comparable to a small flashing 435 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: blue led. At first glance, I thought it may have 436 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 1: been a person's cell phone, but the theory was quickly 437 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: disproved when the light began to rise up maybe five 438 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: or six feet off the ground and started to float 439 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: its way up the hill toward us. It was very small, 440 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: a little bigger than say, your standard issue firefly, which 441 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: I love the idea of a standard issue firefly and 442 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: check out of the armory anyway, Glenn goes on. But 443 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: the light was much more dense and moved in a 444 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: much different way than fireflies do, and it didn't share 445 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: the yellow glow that a firefly has. It was very 446 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: true blue. It gets to the top of the hill 447 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: and then begins to float an undulating motion on a 448 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: straight course from the west towards the lake to the east, 449 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: about two yards away at eye level before it gets 450 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: out over the lake and out of vision. And then 451 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: he says, the person he was with got a little scared, 452 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: so they decided to leave. Uh, And Glenn says, and 453 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: as we're leaving, another one rises out of some brush 454 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: off the side of the path. I've been searching for 455 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: an explanation to this scene since that day, and after 456 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: hearing your podcast and fairly certain it, I saw what 457 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: these accounts claim to have also witnessed. I've returned to 458 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: the location several times, but have never been lucky enough 459 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: to see them again. Sorry for the length the email, 460 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: not at all. I have a renewed excitement now, and 461 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: it would seem that there has been some substance to 462 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: what I saw that night. I will add that it 463 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: did indeed rain a couple of days previous to my story, 464 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: so maybe there is a correlation. Thanks for getting in touch, Glynn. 465 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: I love these Will of the Whisp stories and I 466 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: still have no idea what it is, and I love 467 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: that it also gives us hope that whatever it is, 468 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: it's still out there, it's still going on. We haven't 469 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: squashed it by depleting our our wet lands. Yeah, that's true. 470 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: So I think the final idea we arrived on in 471 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: the episode is that one of the most likely explanations 472 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: seemed to be possible chemo lumin essence just glowing chemical 473 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: reactions from gases escaping from the ground under certain conditions. 474 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: Though the way he's talking about the light being very concentrated, 475 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem to match exactly what he's saying here, 476 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: because he makes it sound like it's like a floating 477 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: dot rather than kind of a blue cloud. It sounds 478 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: like to me, what or gone right? I mean Reich 479 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: said it was blue right. I think for their particles 480 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: of orgon there were I think you could probably find 481 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: if Reich row alive today, he would easily find a 482 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: direct connection between Will of the West and organ energy. 483 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: You know, it wouldn't be unfounded because why not. Anyway, 484 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: thank you very much for getting in touch, Glenn. That 485 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: was really interesting. Hey, so it looks like we need 486 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: to take a quick break, but we will be right 487 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: back after hearing from the sponsor of this episode. Hey, everybody, 488 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 1: you know as well as we do that it's all 489 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: about your website these days. 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It looks like Carney has another message 515 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: for us. Yeah, Kate writes in with the following quote. 516 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: I recently started listening to your podcast and have really 517 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: enjoyed it so far. I had a thought about your 518 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: most recent episode Tooth, Mind and Soul. At the end 519 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: of the podcast, you mentioned the study where they found 520 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: a connection between more tweet teeth and better memory, and 521 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: you discussed several potential reasons for that correlation. I was 522 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: surprised that no one mentioned the possible socio economic reasons 523 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: for this finding. For example, is it possible that people 524 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: who have had access to good dental hygiene may have 525 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: lived in better conditions overall that would promote better mental 526 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: ability and thus have a memory boost as well. Uh. 527 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: You know, well, I feel like we may have touched 528 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: on this a little bit because because that is certainly 529 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: a huge thing that we have to keep in mind 530 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: anytime we're looking at at dental health issues and dental hygiene, 531 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: and especially any connection between we're all health, mental health, 532 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: et cetera. Yeah, I would certainly guess that good dental 533 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: hygiene has something to do with good nutrition, right, And 534 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: I think that we had that in our notes and 535 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: we may have spoken about it, uh like tangentially, but 536 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: we never directly address the socio economic reasons tooth modification. Yeah. 537 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: This is certainly like the solar sale issue that we 538 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: already touched on like this scenaria, where I think we 539 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: we did justice to the idea, but in you know, 540 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: just in case. Yeah, it's good to just camera that home. Yeah. Okay, 541 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: here's another short one. This is from Joyce. This is 542 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: in reference to our Chinese Zodiac episode. So Joyce writes 543 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: in says, just finish your Chinese Zodiac episode. Good show. 544 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: Just something to add. The different zodiac signs have different compatibility. 545 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: My family has a sheep mom and a dragon dad. 546 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: They got married in nineteen eighty five and waited on 547 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: purpose to have me nineteen eight seven rabbit because dragons 548 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: and tigers nineteen eighty six don't get along. My parents 549 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: are in no way firm believers, but it's so ingrained 550 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: in the culture that they waited just in case. Yet 551 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: again we're hearing this theme. We've heard this from several people. Now, 552 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: like we hypothesized in the episode, you don't really have 553 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: to believe it to to let it guide your actions somehow. Yeah, 554 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: we all live in the in the shadow of these 555 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: various cultural constructs and symbols. Just one quick note on that. 556 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: I remember when I when I was first learning about 557 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: the Chinese zodiac from the place Mats, I found out 558 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: that whatever I am, I think a tiger is not 559 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: supposed to get along with whatever my dad was. I 560 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: remember reading I remember reading into that and thinking, should 561 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: I be having more family strife than I do? Uh? 562 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: So it looks like that. This next one it's like 563 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: covered and covered in blood. But I'll pull it out anyways. 564 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no DNA here that's really gonna implicate 565 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: us in anything, right. Uh it says, hello, I've been 566 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: listening to your show and stuff they don't want you 567 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: to know, and notice the psychopath trend among both. I 568 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: don't know if if if this person is speaking to 569 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: our personality is or the topics we're covering, but yes, 570 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 1: there there is that trend between all of us. This 571 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: is a fascinating subject and I think I can give 572 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: you a very nice fact if you read The Psychopath 573 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: Inside Me by James Fallon, which is a fascinating book 574 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: where half of it is references to research papers and 575 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: the rest is a good mix of views of a 576 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: psychopath about psychopathy and the biology. But there is a 577 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: small section about female psychopaths. If there is a singular 578 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: psychopath gene or if it is a cluster of them, 579 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 1: most researchers leaned toward the ladder, but either way they 580 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: are centered in the X chromosome, meaning that women have 581 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: two while men have an X and a much shorter 582 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: Y chromosome. If there is a defect in the X 583 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: chromosome and women the other chromosomes take over, while men 584 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: don't have this luxury. So for a woman to become 585 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: a quote proper genetic lea flawed psychopath, both chromosomes have 586 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: to be broken. Of course, not everybody has the same 587 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: predictable brain structure, so there might be other reasons, but 588 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: this isn't a noticeable trend. As a side note, it 589 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: would be fun if you did a podcast about the 590 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: men without most of their brains that can live normally. 591 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: And he shares a link with us about that, uh 592 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: and says otherwise, good job and interesting podcast. And his 593 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: name is Johnson. I believe he's from Norway. I do 594 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: want to throw in that James Fallon, who he mentions here. 595 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: His work is indeed quite interesting. I got to see 596 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: him at World Science Festival a few years back and 597 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: he was actually doing a moth talk about about how 598 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: in researching psychopaths he ended up identifying the same traits 599 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: within himself. And I think you mentioned this to me. Yeah, 600 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, it has been like one of those 601 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: like moments of stuff to blow your mind, serendipity that 602 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: it like. I don't think we purposely chose it that way, 603 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: but psychopaths have been coming up as like a tangent 604 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: about specific topics we've been tackling, like M D M A. 605 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: And I'm not quite sure what the conspiracy guys probably 606 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: every topic. It's your influence, Christian. You keep bringing about 607 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: psychopath I don't know what you're talking. I think, yes, 608 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: I am probably the most the biggest psychopath. It definitely 609 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: was my idea for us to do an episodes specifically 610 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: about psychopathic children. But the M D M A thing 611 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: was a coincidence. Yeah, I mean, it's just always an 612 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: interesting topic and it's one where our understanding how it 613 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: continues to evolve. I know I've I've covered it a 614 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: number of times just on the blog posts. Yeah, there's 615 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: new studies identify, you know, the inner workings of the 616 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: psychopathic brain. I think it's one of those things that 617 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: like research seems to be like getting into a lot 618 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: almost accidentally. Right, People aren't intentionally looking to go discover 619 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: what makes the psychopathic brain work. There may be studying 620 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: other things, but it keeps popping up and it's um, 621 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: it's something that I think we're gonna have a very 622 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: different like definition and understanding of maybe ten fifteen years 623 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: from now. Yeah, yeah, all right, what's this one? Uh? 624 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: This one comes to us from William. William Wrights is 625 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: his high guys, longtime listener to stuff you should know, 626 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: and I just moved over to stuff to blow your 627 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: mind loving it. I have a little but I think 628 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: important correction within your the Halloween costume costume made me 629 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: do it episode. You take a moment to talk about racism, 630 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 1: black face and our costumes can bring slight even inadvertent 631 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: racist tendencies to the surface. My correction focuses on a 632 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: digital undergrounds frontman Shock G. While trying very hard to 633 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: consider racial issues. You both refer multiple times to the 634 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: MC Humpty Hump as if that was his name, while 635 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: in keeping with the respectful tone of the episode, and 636 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: just in case he is a listener, uh, maybe an 637 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: acknowledgment that his real em C name at the time 638 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: was Shocked G and I believe still is today, uh 639 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: and that the famous song was the Humpty Hump. Keep 640 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: up the great work, man. I hope Shock G as 641 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: a list that would be awesome. Um oh yeah, he's 642 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: He's no Matthew Modine, but he's still pretty great. Yeah 643 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: he's great. Uh oh yeah. So two things. First of all, 644 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: Humpty Hump is an alter ego of Shock G and 645 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: therefore I maintain that any reference to Shoot to Humpty 646 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: Hump as an individual, um he is accurate, I believe 647 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: within the narrative of that song as a character. Yeah, 648 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Humpty Hump has his own origin story um 649 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: about how he lost his nose and its thus replaced 650 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: it with the with the signature, you know, Gratcho Mark's 651 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: glasses and nose. However, I do I do agree that yes, 652 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: we should have mentioned shock Gu specifically as the man 653 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: behind the nose, and I think William is right to 654 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: to write in about something like this just even though 655 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: we were I guess technically wrong, but two white dudes 656 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: sitting around talking about the issues of race and gender 657 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: that we're being extrapolated out of Halloween costumes, there's always 658 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: a potential for error. So I'm glad that he corrected 659 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: us in this sense, because otherwise I think it would 660 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: have just come off as kind of like white dude 661 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: man splaining and I'd also like to mention I hope 662 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: that shock g not humpty hump, got busy in a 663 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: burger king bathroom. All right, Carney's handing us another message 664 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 1: here and if I can, hope, if I can take 665 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: it from him, he's running waving it around in circles. Ah, 666 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: there it is. Okay. Oh, this is from our listener, Martin, 667 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: and Martin is writing in with reference to one of 668 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: the X Files episodes that Christian and I did. So. Yeah, 669 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: and he's not the only one who wrote about the 670 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: specific thing, right, I think we received a couple of 671 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: tweets about this too. Yeah, and so in the X 672 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: Files episode, Christian and I were talking about Leonard Betts, 673 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: the classic X Files character who gets his head cut off, survives, 674 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: and then regrows his head because he's made of cancer. Yes, 675 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: but but not before walking to the iodine store and 676 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: saying give me all your the way he regress his 677 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 1: head as by climbing into a bathtub full of iodine. Anyway, Mark, 678 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,280 Speaker 1: our listener Martin writes in about this and says, hey, eyes, 679 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure someone has already pointed this out. But a 680 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: day or so before the X Files podcast, I watched 681 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: an episode of Monumental Mysteries or Mysteries at the Monument 682 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: something like that, which is a branch of the show 683 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: Mysteries at the Museum Anyway. One of the monuments they 684 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: visited in the episode was of a chicken without a 685 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: head in the center of a town. The chickens name 686 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: was Mike Miracle Mike Bond, James Bold. The story is 687 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: that a farmer gathered up a couple of chickens to 688 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: kill for dinner. After cutting off Mike's head, he let 689 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: him run around while tending to the next victim. After 690 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: doing his thing with chicken number two, he noticed that 691 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: Mike was still going about as if nothing happened, so 692 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: he spared him and went about making dinner or whatever. 693 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: The next day, Mike was still alive, so he began 694 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: feeding him with an eye dropper and kind of just 695 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: letting the headless chicken do what headless chickens do. Oddly, 696 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: even without a head, he would scratch and peck at 697 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: the ground, walk around, and could bring and evidently functioned 698 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: just fine. Most of this is because his brain stem 699 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: was left mostly intact. But people were amazed by the 700 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: headless little fella, and he went on tour, living headless 701 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: for eighteen months. Unfortunately, one night at a hotel while 702 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: on tour, Mike began to choke, which is evidently pretty 703 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: common for a chicken without a head, and his owner 704 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: couldn't locate his eye dropper in time to clear his airway, 705 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: so he perished after eighteen months of headless life. The 706 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: second how do you choke? I don't know. I guess 707 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: he is an esophagus still, yeah, I mean, yeah, you 708 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: still have the neck and everything. So we we did 709 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: think about this, actually, I think I thought about mentioning 710 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: this in the episode, but didn't because you had notes 711 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: about it, for sure. Because the so we were talking 712 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: about animals that can get their heads cut off and survive. 713 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: For example, cockroaches can survive without a head for a 714 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: long time. But the thing with this chicken was that 715 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: it it sort of wasn't really without a head, and 716 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: the relevant sense, it was without part of a head. 717 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: So if the brain stem was left intact, that's a 718 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: different kind of thing. This would be sort of like 719 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: a person getting like the front of their head cut 720 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: off or something, which would also be impressive. Yeah, it would. 721 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean, not that this is not interesting I really 722 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: appreciate all of you who got in touch with us 723 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: about Miracle Mike. I love that his name is Miracle 724 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: Mike because it makes me think of magic Mike. And 725 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: therefore I can't help but imagine a dream scenario and 726 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: which you have a movie about a headless mail stripper. 727 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: But I'm imagining Miracle Mike double XL. No, what I'm 728 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: imagining is that song Pony, you know, with the Miracle 729 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: Mike running around without a head back in at the ground. 730 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: Jump on it my brain stem anyway. But Martin continues 731 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: for referencing another episode, saying, the second odd thing was 732 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 1: right before I listened to the Mirrors podcast thing that's 733 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: talking about the one YouTube did on space mirrors. There's 734 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: also an older stuff to Blowing my Hand episode just 735 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: on mirrors. Oh well, I wonder it could be the 736 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: one he talks about a sun gun. I think it 737 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: was this so so, Martin says, I watched the new 738 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: episode of Scorpion and go figure. They were chasing down 739 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: some warlord who had acquired panels the Germans had planned 740 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 1: to use on the sun gun. I won't go through 741 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: the whole timeline of the episode, but both are really 742 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: great shows and definitely worth watching. Anyway, I just thought 743 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: there were some weird synchronicities worth sharing. Keep the awesome 744 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: podcast coming. Thanks so much, Mike, even I thought not Mike, 745 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Miracle Mike, Thanks so much, Martin, Miracle, Martin, 746 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: I've never heard of Scorpion before. It sounds I don't 747 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: know what it is. Yeah, I'm not familiar with it. 748 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: I thought he was talking about the nineteen eighties glam 749 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: band that would be the Scorpions. Is that right? They 750 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: were just Yeah, that was a that was an interesting 751 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: period of time in the history of music. Speaking of music, 752 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: uh Ann Lee writes in with the following Robert, I 753 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 1: am late to the podcasting scene and have been trying 754 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: to work my way through the backlog of episodes. Almost 755 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 1: every other episode I find myself thinking, has Robert played 756 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: Silent Hill? How has he not played Silent Hill? Is 757 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: he ever going to mention Silent Hill? Do you ever 758 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: mentioned Silent Hill? Did I just not make it far enough? 759 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: And yet I was certain you'd say something on the 760 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: Uncanny Music episode, et cetera. If by some strange turn 761 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: of fate, a man who loves monsters, grotesque and poigning 762 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: imagery and the psychology of horror hasn't explored the Silent 763 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: Hill series. I thought you'd be interested play Look up 764 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: Silent Hill one through three, with the pinnacle being Silent 765 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: Hill to perhaps considered an episode on horror gaming active 766 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: participation versus passive watching, as in film and books as well. 767 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: So I will say, yes, I have played the first 768 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: three Silent Hills, and I can't remember the room was 769 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: Silent Hill three or the one that came after Silent 770 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: Hill three, but uh, yeah, I've seen I've played those, 771 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: and I have seen the Silent Hill movie. And uh, 772 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: I actually own the soundtrack to Silent Hill to. All 773 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: the music for the entire franchise games and films I 774 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: was composed by a Kira yama Oka. Uh and it's indeed, 775 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: it's great stuff. A mixture of uncanny music, uh, some 776 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: just wonderful sort of industrial noise and occasional J pop sensibility. 777 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: Sound Hill was one of those things we get asked 778 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: about a lot, like on periscope. People have asked about 779 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: it multiple times, specifically about you know that Soulent Hill 780 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: game that Gamma del Toro was working on. Is it 781 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: pt is that way? Oh? Yeah, that's apparently, but then 782 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, I don't think it's happening, um, but 783 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: they wanted to know what our thoughts were about it. 784 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: I've watched like a game play, like somebody playing through it, 785 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: but I don't have I think it's It was only 786 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: available on PC or maybe PlayStation, so I wasn't able 787 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: to play it. I've always been told I should play 788 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: Silent Hill. I've never played any of the Yeah, I mean, 789 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: they love horror, but I I was not playing that 790 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: console generation when those games came out. Well, they've done 791 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: HD remakes of at least one in two, so I 792 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: would say just skip right to two because we have 793 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: busy lives. When I have time for sling Hill Wind, 794 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,439 Speaker 1: they're fun. Salent Hill too, Salent Hill too is Yeah, 795 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: it's fun, and I loved that it. It never really fleshed. 796 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: My memory of it anyway, is that it never really 797 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: fleshed out exactly what was happening. It left him and 798 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: just content continual confusion and mystery about this place in 799 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: the setting and the events that have transpired, and there's 800 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: all sorts of just of just weird stuff in the background. 801 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm not steeped enough from the Laura. I don't know 802 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: if they ever explained it fully. I think there was 803 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: a second movie too, wasn't there There was? I know 804 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: Lauren has seen it, Lauren Vocabam. We'll have to ask 805 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: her about it. I know Kit Harrington I think was 806 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: in it. Um really yeah, I think he was. I 807 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: might be mixing mixing him up. Maybe somebody out there 808 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: is going no, it wasn't. John Snow you know nothing. 809 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: Christian's acre. Okay, we got another one here that's coming 810 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: out and it is covered in tiny little pink pills. 811 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: It says, I just listened to your series on m 812 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: d m A. One thing not mentioned that has been 813 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: researched is m d M A for Tonight's treatment. People 814 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: have recorded that their TONIGHTUS goes away while using m 815 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: d m A. Thank you for the podcast. I really 816 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: enjoy the subject matter. I actually think TONIGHTUS would be 817 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: a great standalone episode topic. I have TONIGHTUS myself. With 818 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: all the research being done on causes and treatments, it's 819 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 1: amazing how much is still unknown about the condition. Thank you, Stephanie. Yeah, 820 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 1: that would be fun. I actually wrote a brain stuff 821 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: episode about Tonight's UM. You know, brain stuff is our 822 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: general science kind of video series. So it's a real quick, 823 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: like two or three minute explanation of how Ringing Year 824 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: works is how we refer to it in that. But 825 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: that's interesting. I have TONIGHTUS, so I'm curious. I mean, 826 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's 827 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: from being in punk bands, um and not wearing proper protection. 828 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: I have I Ringing Year pretty much all the time. Um, 829 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: but it's one of those things where like I've lived 830 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: with it for so long now that I can kind 831 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: of tune it out, but in certain situations it comes 832 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: on really strong. Yeah, like wow, M D M A. 833 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if i'd want 834 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: to be a guinea pig for that. I wouldn't want 835 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: to pull a John C. Lily and start testing on myself. 836 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 1: But that's interesting, and TONIGHTUS would be one that's interesting 837 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: because she's right, they haven't really nailed it down yet. 838 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: I think that though there's several different theories as to 839 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: why it happens, but they haven't. They don't have anything definitive. 840 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 1: Now you know what you're doing this weekend? Yeah, dropping 841 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: some M D M A and listening very delicately. Okay, 842 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: we've got another This is just a real short one 843 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: from our listener Eric in England. But this is in 844 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 1: reference to, uh, to our X Files episode where Christian 845 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: and I were talking about how it seems like they 846 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: can never get the alien cloning invasion plan straight in 847 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: the X Files. It's like they let let's just go, 848 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: Like they still can't. Yeah, we were one episode away 849 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: from the new series finishing and it's no better. Well, 850 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: they keep giving different explanations of what's going on that 851 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: seemed like they just couldn't possibly all fit together somehow. Uh. 852 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: And so what Christian and I talked about was, well, 853 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: maybe the deal is just that the Aliens haven't made 854 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: up their mind. This is actually the plot of the 855 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: show is that the Aliens are incredibly disorganized and cannot 856 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: get it together and agree on a plan. Well, it 857 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: comes back to Invader Zim, which I believe we talked 858 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: about right recently, talk about that. This is exactly what 859 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: Eric's comment is. So Eric writes in to say, hey, guys, 860 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: great shows usual. Just check out Invader Zim for a 861 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: great example of a disorganized invasion plan plus just a 862 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: fun watch. Cheers Eric. So I've never seen Invader Zim 863 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: and I don't know what he's talking about, but now 864 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I've got to check it out. Obama 865 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: has also recommended this to me. She told me to 866 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: watch it and it's I believe it's on Amazon Prime. 867 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: So I had maybe it was a Nickelodeon show and 868 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: it's just the whole, the whole run of it. As 869 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: this tremendous friend of mine works on the Invaders Zim 870 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: comic book too. Yeah, so I I should give it, 871 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: give it a chance. It's got kind of like a 872 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: Johann Vasquez vibe. It is. Yeah, Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, cool, Yeah, 873 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: it was his his deal, all right. Here's one more 874 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: that touches on our recent coverage of psychedelics uh from Kristen. 875 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: She says, big fan of the podcast and particularly enjoying 876 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: the coverage of the use of psychedelics for therapeutic purposes. 877 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: It touches on a subject I'm very passionate about. Ayahuasca 878 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: was my first psychedelic a little over a year ago. 879 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: After my first time using it, I quit my job 880 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: in the corporate oil industry immediately upon trying ayahuasca. My 881 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: life has taken a completely different path, and I've spent 882 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,760 Speaker 1: the last year working with different teachers psychedelics to explore 883 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: myself in my connection to others in the world. Not 884 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: to mention I had a lot of fun doing so. 885 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: In the process, I started going to private meetings in 886 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles in researchers homes to discuss tripped reports, share experiences, 887 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: and collect data. I wish more people understood how psychedelics 888 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: could impact our lives without it sounding like hippie nonsense. 889 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: My mom is still convinced M D m A puts 890 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: holes in your brain and that LSD is addictive. That's 891 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: funny because right before we did the M D m 892 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: A episode, Joe said to me, are you going to 893 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: talk about the holes in the brain? Myth? And I 894 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: had never even heard of that even with doing the research, 895 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: but I was taught this in school when I was 896 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: growing up. Your brain, Yeah, I am pretty sure from 897 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: all the research we did for that double party, that's 898 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: not true. That is true, uh, and that LSD is addictive. 899 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for taking up airtime exploring these substances and 900 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: the benefits they can provide people with. I hope my 901 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: mom gives it a listen, uh, and then she says, 902 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: I went to a MAPS conference a while ago. We 903 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: talked about MAPS in that episode. There are a group 904 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: that works on the therapeutic applications of it uh and 905 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: when she was there, she said, they discussed a really 906 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: interesting study they're doing. They're using m d m A 907 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,439 Speaker 1: on people with autism. It was fascinating. I recalled Dr 908 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: Alicia dan Forth telling a story about a patient that 909 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: had issues making eye contact with people after his m 910 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: d m A therapy. He was standing in line at Walmart. 911 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: The cashier asked him how he was doing, and he said, 912 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: for the first time ever in his life, he was 913 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: able to make eye contact with and respond with good, 914 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: how are you. I can't recall all the t details, 915 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,919 Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure it was an older man who 916 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: had been living with autism for a long time. Awesome work, Kristen, Well, yeah, 917 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that Kristen liked this, and a lot 918 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: of people seem to respond positively to those two episodes 919 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: so much so that we're definitely talking about doing more 920 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 1: on UM, not just psychedelics, but other kind of drugs 921 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: and therapeutic applications. Yes, definitely, we definitely are going to 922 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: hit some some more drug topics in the months ahead. 923 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: Ayahuasca is on the top of my list personally not 924 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: to take, but to go out for the show. I 925 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: uh my first introduction to ayahuasca, I mean outside of 926 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: reading Williams Burrows talking about it as the age was 927 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: on Pete Holmes You Made It Weird podcast, he talked 928 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: with a guest about her whole experience doing the sort 929 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: of thing where you go, uh and you you pay 930 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: money to like a tribe, I believe in order to 931 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: be able to take it quote unquote legally. Yeah, and 932 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: my understanding is that it's it's it's been slightly commercialized 933 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: in recent years, so you can actually book travel to 934 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: a resort type of place to engage in these uh 935 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: these experiences. And we're living in william S Burrow's world now. 936 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: Not only that he just came up in the In 937 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: the Right orgon episode he built himself an organ accumulator 938 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: to write in huh um. I will mission mentioned as 939 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: well there were a pair of older episodes of Stuff 940 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: to Blow Your Mind that I did with the Julie 941 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: Douglas uh title of the Scientist and the Shaman, and 942 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: that goes that those episodes go into some of these 943 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: issues as well, particularly the use of psilocybin and diahuasca. Cool. Well, 944 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: while in the meantime, while we're putting those together, maybe 945 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: Kristen and others who are interested in this canna go 946 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: back and listen to those. Yeah, you just go to 947 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: stuff to Blow your Mind dot com and type in drugs. Yeah, 948 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: I mean seriously, I think there are all those episodes 949 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: and in blog poster our tag at the drugs. Yeah, 950 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: we try, We try to tag him pretty well with 951 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: our metadata. All right. Uh, this next one comes in 952 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: from linked In, of all places linked Yeah, you're kidding. Yeah, 953 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's about a headless chicken. No, but I 954 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: had to share it because it's a nice, nice little 955 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: bit of listener mail. But it also came to me 956 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: personally through LinkedIn. Was like one of two times that 957 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 1: LinkedIn has been helpful. Yeah, LinkedIn is the one social 958 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,399 Speaker 1: media network that makes me feel like an old man, 959 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: Like I feel like I just totally don't understand what's 960 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: going on here. It makes you feel like an old man. 961 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: It makes me feel like a little kid. Really makes 962 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: me feel like I'm on there with all these adults 963 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: doing their adult things, and I'm like, hey, I've been 964 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: endorsing you for stuff all. I think we all, I 965 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: think all three of us are on there right Yeah yeah, 966 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: look yeah, so hey adds to your network? Do you 967 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: want to hire us? But but Melanie wrote in on 968 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: LinkedIn and said, thanks for accepting, even though we actually 969 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: haven't done business together. Devouring your podcasts since Joe Rogan 970 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,919 Speaker 1: commented on it, looking forward to listening and reading more. 971 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for the warning about polar bear livers that was 972 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: from our Danger Foods episodes. Could have had that for 973 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: lunch yesterday. And she also thought it was on email 974 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: and recommended that we we potentially do an episode on 975 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: color and color blindness. Oh yeah, we've gotten some good 976 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: feedback about the Dangerous Foods episode. I've been emailing back 977 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 1: and forth with one listener named Mary, who has been 978 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 1: contacting us about her experiences in Iceland. First, she got 979 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 1: in touch with us about the Pink Snow, Blue Snow episode, 980 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: the episode we did about All the Weird Snow where 981 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: she was talking about the colors of glaciers that she 982 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: had seen in Iceland and what was exactly the cause 983 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: of them. And we found out that we had been 984 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: to one of the same glacier lagoons like she and 985 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 1: her fiance at the time had been there when she 986 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 1: was in Iceland, and I had been there with my 987 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 1: wife Rachel when we were there. And if you ever 988 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: get a chance to see a glacier in real life, 989 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 1: it's worth it because it is a very strange, uh, 990 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: different kind of thing to see if you're not used 991 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: to it. I still can't get over that you went 992 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 1: to Iceland and you guys didn't go to the Blue Lagoon. 993 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: Of all the lagoons and glaciers, you didn't go to 994 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: the weird uh Silica sex pond. Another thing Mary mentioned 995 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: is that she actually ate the shark from the Dangerous 996 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: Foods episode. Yes, she she ate it while she was there, 997 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: chased it with some kind of unknown clear liquor, and 998 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: that that's it. And so I gotta I gotta respect 999 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: her power and honor. Well. To her point about us 1000 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: doing something about color blindness, again, I think i'm brain stuff. 1001 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: I didn't write it. Maybe you did. Um, there's a 1002 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: color blindness episode. In fact, we did it because our 1003 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: colleague Ben Boland has a certain kind of color blindness, uh. 1004 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 1: And so that's why we covered it, so maybe if 1005 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: we did an episode on that topic, we could bring 1006 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: Ben and he could be our guinea pig. Yeah, we 1007 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: could give him M D M A in ayahuasca and 1008 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: see how it affects color blindness. All right, it looks 1009 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: like we have one last email here from Carney. All right, Carney, 1010 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: what if we got here? Ah? This is from our 1011 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: listener Catherine, and it's in reference to our episode that 1012 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: Robert and I did for New Year's about science and 1013 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 1: moral behavior. And Catherine writes, hey, guys, I started listening 1014 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: to your podcast, asked after getting all caught on your 1015 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: brother and sister podcasts and now slowly chipping away at yours. 1016 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: Yesterday I was listening to your episode Moral Behavior, and 1017 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,280 Speaker 1: I got so excited. For my psychology undergraduate, I conducted 1018 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: a study on this exact topic. My thesis was titled Shame, 1019 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: Guilt and Religiousness in Adolescent sexual Offenders. And I can't 1020 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: resist an opportunity to talk about it, which is basically 1021 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: never because people think it's super boring. I was looking 1022 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 1: for a link between religion and adolescent offenders and their 1023 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: feelings of shame and guilt, which are commonly closely tied 1024 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,439 Speaker 1: to moral behavior. Because I was dealing with children and 1025 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: I was a lowly undergrad student, it was difficult to 1026 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: conduct my study and ended up with a total sample 1027 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: size of seven, which doesn't make my results very reliable. Uh. 1028 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,320 Speaker 1: We we admire your work. Anyway, That sounds like a 1029 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: larger sample size than Mahomewich worked with. Yeah, it was 1030 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: possible anyway, Catherine continues, However, I did find that at 1031 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 1: at least among that sample size of seven, and she 1032 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: says how I did find that there was no connection 1033 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: between religion and the moral feelings of the participants, but 1034 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 1: was more connected to their own intrinsic feelings about themselves 1035 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 1: and their offenses. Anyway, if you ever can't sleep, I'll 1036 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: be more than happy to assist with a copy of 1037 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: the paper. Keep up the great work. Love listening to 1038 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,399 Speaker 1: your podcast. It makes my monotonous day so much more enjoyable. Well, 1039 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 1: that is too kind, Catherine, and thank you for sharing 1040 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: this with us, you know, on the subject of content 1041 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: that puts one to sleep. Um, we're talking about this earlier. 1042 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if we've actually mentioned it on the podcast, 1043 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: but we had one listener write in at least one 1044 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: at least one. Yeah, well, I've heard from other How 1045 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,720 Speaker 1: Stuff Works podcasts they've heard similar things to that people 1046 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: listen to the podcasts while falling asleep. But the one 1047 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: individual in particular thought that the music should be tweaked. 1048 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,760 Speaker 1: Our excellent music by our producer Noel should be tweeked 1049 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: so as to allow them to gently move into into 1050 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: slumber at the end of the episode. Yeah, I'd love 1051 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: to hear from more of you if you fall asleep 1052 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: to to our episodes. I never really thought that the 1053 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: k of our voices would be something that would knock 1054 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: people out. Now, I think that from now on, all 1055 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: of our episodes should each be an MP three file 1056 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: that's about three hours long, where we talk for the 1057 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: normal amount of time, and then the rest of the 1058 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 1: file is just waves coming, just seegulls every now and 1059 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 1: the rain patterns. Yeah. Well, you know one thing that 1060 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: I took away from this last one that you read, 1061 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,479 Speaker 1: and it seems like a common theme with what our 1062 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: letters throughout the entire episode. Today, there's been a lot 1063 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: of cross pollination between the shows here at How Stuff Works. Lately, 1064 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of people are listening to 1065 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 1: us and jumping to other shows are listening to other 1066 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: shows and jumping over to us. I hear that all 1067 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: the time. I hear from people who started with stuff 1068 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: you should know and then moved on to stuff you 1069 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 1: missed in history class and to us. Yeah. Well, and 1070 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: and if so, I guess if there are people out 1071 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: there that are listening and they're unfamiliar, I guess with 1072 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: the larger world of what we operate, and you know, 1073 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot more here at how stuff works. Uh. 1074 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: And the best way to kind of find out what 1075 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 1: all those other shows are is if you go to 1076 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: stuff to Blow your Mind dot com. Just scroll to 1077 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,399 Speaker 1: the bottom of any page. They're all lists it. They're 1078 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 1: including Joe's other show, Forward Thinking. Yeah, I mean, they're 1079 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: all great shows and there's no stuff to blow your mind. 1080 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 1: But no, I mean, but they're great. I can't imagine 1081 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 1: that on car Stuff that they're gonna talk about ayahuasca 1082 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 1: anytime soon. You know, I do want to mention Car 1083 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: Stuff has been putting some great stuff on Facebook recently, 1084 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: like they've been at least a couple of different things 1085 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: that have had to share to the Stuff to Blow 1086 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 1: your Mind Facebook page because uh, Scott Benjamin is great 1087 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: about bringing out these like really weird things from automotive 1088 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 1: history that even appeal to me, like the least automotively 1089 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 1: inclined person in the office. Probably, I'd say you and 1090 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: I could compete for being for being the lowest on 1091 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: the car guys scale. Yeah, and so it appears that 1092 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: stuff appeals to us. Then if you're at all interested 1093 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 1: in I guess done that show before. I'm not a 1094 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: car person really at all, but those guys are a 1095 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: lot of fun to talk what they have you on 1096 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 1: to talk about. We talked about, um, pony cars, you know, 1097 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 1: like that style of car that's somewhere between like a 1098 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: muscle car and like a sedan, So like a Ford 1099 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: Mustang or a Dodge Challenger, stuff like that cars in 1100 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,240 Speaker 1: death Proof. Yes, actually, um, and it has a pony 1101 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: in it. Well, they're called pony cars because they're named 1102 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 1: after the Mustang. So it's like not a Mustang, ak 1103 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 1: not a full grown horse that is a pony. Right. Well, 1104 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,879 Speaker 1: so that's a good segue for us to just remind 1105 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: people in general to visit stuff to blow your mind 1106 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: dot com, which is where you're gonna find everything by 1107 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: the three of us. That's where we write things, we blog, 1108 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: there's videos by us or that we host, and they're 1109 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 1: all the podcasts are there as well. Yeah, and there's 1110 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: even there even links out to all the other House 1111 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: of Work shows as well, so that can be your 1112 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: first stop on a continuing health Stuff Works journey. And 1113 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,799 Speaker 1: I just wanted to remind you out there again. If 1114 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 1: you've gotten in touch with us and we didn't have 1115 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 1: time to read your email today, I'm sorry that we 1116 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: couldn't get to it today, but please right in in 1117 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: the future. We we love getting all of the feedback 1118 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 1: that we get from you all and and the wonderful 1119 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: things you contribute, and hopefully we'll be able to read 1120 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 1: it in a future listener mail. So yeah, we're open 1121 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 1: to emails about new episodes, old episodes, whatever you have 1122 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 1: to share with us. Uh. So, there are some other 1123 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: ways that you can get in touch with us too, right, 1124 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: I mentioned them at the top. 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