WEBVTT - Bend It Like Beckham with Subhah Agarwal 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.680 On the Bedel Cast, the questions asked if movies have 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:07.720 women in um, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:12.160 or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef in best 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.919 start changing it with the Bechdel Cast. Hello, Welcome to 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.079 the Bechtel Cast. My name is Jamie Loftus and my 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.119 name is Caitlin Rante. This is our podcast about the 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:28.520 representation of women in movies. You've seen before? You have it? Yeah, Jamie, 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:31.280 how do you feel the representation of women in mainstream 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.560 American cinema is? I'll tell you what, pretty bad? Yeah? 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:38.840 I would agree, don't care for it. Usually feel it's 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.200 like a bit of a slap in the face, for sure. 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:46.360 And that conversation just passed the Bechtel test, which is 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.720 the test that we use as just a jumping off 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.400 point to initiate a larger conversation about the representation of 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.560 women in movies. The Bechtel test for us requires that 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:01.400 the movie has two female I entifying characters in it. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:08.039 They have to have names already, Why bothers those characters 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.000 have to speak to each other? That happens, I'm leaving 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.559 the theater. Who wants to watch women talk right, and 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:20.000 their conversation has to be about anything besides men, sorry, 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.800 talking about food. There's nothing has to talk about right, 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.920 So here here, let's let's play to test the test 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:30.880 really quick. I'd love to okay, Caitlin, Hey, Jamie, you 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:36.160 play sports? I do play soccer. Well, I played soccer 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.880 when I was four, but then I got kicked off 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.600 of a youth team, which isn't supposed to be allowed 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.399 to happen to four year old But I what did 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.880 you do to get kicked off the team? Quote refused 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.520 to participate? Unquote I see and quote picked flowers and 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.360 quote through them at the opposing team, which I would 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.160 argue was probably helpful to my team. And they shouldn't 0:01:56.200 --> 0:02:00.240 let me stay, I think, but that may be some 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:05.560 poor sportsmanship. Well, we'll do matter next time. Sorry, we're 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:12.360 just done. Women. Shall we introduce please? She's a comedian 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.960 and she's a writer for the Jim Jefferies Show. Suba 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:20.680 our gar Wall. Hey, welcome, thanks for having me, Thanks 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:24.320 for being here. So we're talking about Bendett, like Beckham, 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.680 tell us about your history with this movie, your relationship 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.880 to it. When did you first see it? I? Oh, 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.760 I think I was young. I don't remember exactly one, 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:39.280 but um, it was very relatable. I loved it. It It 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.400 was like, I think it was the first because when 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.360 I was little, the only the brown girl I really saw. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.360 I was like, well, of course there's Bollywood films, but 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:46.919 I had no idea what the hell was going on there. 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.000 And then there was Princess Jasmine. And when I was 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.360 super little, I thought I was a princess because I 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.079 saw Jasmine and my dad would call me princess, and 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.000 then all of our white school teachers called my house 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:58.600 and we're like, is your daughter really a princess? And 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:08.400 was like, no, soups embarrassing, that's adorable. Though, could have 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:12.240 just leaned into it, like he just doesn't want people 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:17.200 to know they're trying to murder me because I'm going 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.840 to inherit the throne. Now I think we were merchants. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:25.600 Was our cast? I don't know, but so yeah, back on, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.680 I absolutely adored it because it kind of became my 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.640 life story with the whole entire double life thing with 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.320 me and stand up where it's like, um, my parents 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.160 took me to my first ever open mic and then 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.920 they forbade me from doing comedy and then I would 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:39.680 sneak out and say I was going to parties and 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.400 like go out and do shows and stuff. So it 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.480 was very like Backham. They were cool with parties, but 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.400 not well, you have to understand who my friends were. Okay, 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.400 I was such a loser. This is completely true. I 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.160 got into comedy because I thought it would teach me 0:03:54.160 --> 0:04:01.360 how to talk to people. Work even weirder on direction. Yeah, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.840 I think I've gotten way socially worse since I started 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.480 to stand up. Hey, now I talked, but everything I 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.960 say it's an appropriate perfect I mean, it's more complicated 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.560 than that. But so my friends, this is true. I 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.039 was so awkward and so nerdy that the people who 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.679 took me into their friend circle was this Korean church 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.040 youth group at my school because they saw me and 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.960 it was like adopting strike. Yeah, they took me another 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:27.760 group and they like let me come to their like 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.039 youth group Friday. So it's like, yeah, we would go 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.039 real crazy. We would do karaoke and like go to 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:37.000 a hay patch. You were their project, their project. So 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.080 those were the parties that you told your parents you 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.280 were going to and instead you were going out and 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:45.039 doing stand up. Okay, it is really bend it like 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:50.039 that up, but I think I like that better. Jamie, 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.120 when did you first see the movie? I'm pretty sure 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:53.760 I first saw this movie. I definitely didn't see it 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.200 when it first came out. I would have been tune 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:56.920 to see it, But I saw it at some point 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.520 in high school. Um. I think that a bunch of 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.240 my friends and I watched it, and it would have 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.440 probably been because we knew by that point who Kira 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.200 Nightly was, and so we were like, oh, you're not 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.160 lisening this movie, we'll watch it, And yeah, I really 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:12.720 liked it. I've seen it a couple of times over 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.960 the years, and it's always been just like I don't 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.040 know I was. I was a little bit worried, as 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.760 I always am anytime we rewatch a movie with this 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.200 like Lens. I was a little bit weird going into 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.520 it because I didn't remember all the details white and 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.560 usually when that happens, it means that I'm about to 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.120 not love the movie anymore. It's gonna be very upset. 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.080 But this movie held up for me. I thought, I 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.360 I really it's it just warms my heart to feel 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.839 like movie still banks it's right. It's very rare that 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.840 we revisit a movie after having been doing this podcast 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.520 for a while and are able to still enjoy a 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.680 movie so without without like that weird feeling of like 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.240 but astros gast you know, right. So it came on 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.520 two thousand two. I think I saw it shortly after 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.039 it came out. I would have been in high school 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.880 at the time, and I was really at the top 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.480 of my soccer career in that moment. I was a 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:10.560 captain of my soccer team. I I know, I was 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.880 a left forward. I was scoring goals all the time. 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:17.520 What does left forward mean is that just I played 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:22.600 an offensive position, so like upstage, but but I didn't 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.200 drama closer to the traffic line. I would okay, okay, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:30.360 So like I would enter the field stage left field, left, 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.400 and um hit the mark. I would hit my mark. 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.520 And yeah. So I'm a huge soccer fan, and so 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.240 I kind of just automatically liked this movie because it 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.040 was about women playing soccer. It was around the time 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:43.800 in my life where I was like really gung ho 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:48.000 about soccer, and you could argue that I still am 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.560 because right after this, I'm going to play soccer in Pasadena. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:57.080 So yeah, yeah, yeah, so um. I really enjoyed this 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.120 movie at the time, and then I would watch it 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:00.799 here and there. I haven't seen it that many times. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:05.560 I loved soccer too. I wanted to be I tried, really, 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.160 I wanted to be a professional soccer player, but my 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.240 health and my genetics gotten away. So sorry, did you 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.160 think you're gonna do soccer? You're going to do math. 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:21.800 I'm sorry, you're physically suited to math. Your bones are 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:27.120 shaped for this wheel, wheel in desk shape for I mean, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.840 make no mistake, I'm not good at soccer. I've been 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.040 playing for over twenty five years, so I should be 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.040 much better than I am, and I'm literally still very bad. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.880 And my problem was I was fat when I was little, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.440 and then when you're fat and they don't know what 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.520 they're doing, they just make you the goalie. They're like, well, 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.720 she doesn't move, and I would get so mad that 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.640 they would put me in goalie because I know what 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:48.960 I'm like, this is because I'm fat. And then like 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.440 I stopped, I refused to play goalie and I started 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.840 playing these positions. But by the time, my school was 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.280 very competitive, so it was really hard to get on 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.880 the team, and I started working out and I draw 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.600 and I lost all this weight and like I ended 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.400 up like for a soccer for soccer, like wolfer soccer. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.400 And I was also tired of, you know, not being 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:11.640 fuckable in the night, Like now it's better, but now 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.080 I'm sure there'd be a dude who's like, yeah, you 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:14.680 don't have to look like that. I'm totally into you. 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.240 But you know, but then no, but yeah, I mean 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.840 when you're ye ten in the nineties, it's yeah, no, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.280 it's a so yeah, I lost this wight. I started jogging, 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.240 I started working out and training really hard, and I 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.800 could not catch up. I still couldn't make it, but 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:29.560 I was like, well, I guess at least I'm not 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.560 going to diet of a heart attack at thirty. I 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:36.440 guess I'll just be healthy. Into your mouth and I 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.560 was told I was once perfectly physically built to play 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:43.839 the oboe because I like, when I had a back braise, 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.679 I went to my oboe instructor and I thought he 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.199 was going to tell me to quit because I'm like, 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:48.640 I have to wear a back braid all the time, 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.160 how am I supposed to? And he was like, you 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.880 don't understand what a blessing. This is that the way 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.600 I was leading, like my crooked spine was leaning on 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.920 my lung in such a way that was very advantageous 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:05.360 to Obo play. So not to brag, that was a gift. 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:10.319 So we've got an athlete, a musician, and a mathematician. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:18.400 We are basically three most fuckable people in the entire world. Um, 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.560 so I'll do the recap recap it u baby, Okay, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.160 so bend it like Beckham. The movie focuses on a 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.720 character named Jess Bamra. She is a young woman living 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.720 in England with her family, and her parents are immigrants. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.040 They're Indian and they're this very traditional family and they 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:39.000 do not like that Jess plays soccer and loves soccer 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:43.880 and loves David Beckham. And then we meet Jules that's 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:48.080 Kara Knightley's character. Her mother's all like, try on these 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.760 sexy bras and she's like, I'd rather it's fully like 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:58.640 calling the manager white lady. Mom. Yeah, right, And Jules 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:04.120 sees Jess playing soccer in the park and she's like, wow, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.120 she's really good and she goes up to her and 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.040 Jules was like, hey, you should like try out for 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.320 this women's league that I'm on, and Jesse is like, 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.520 am I good enough for this? And she's like yeah, 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:22.439 so really far with the gig. So Jess goes and 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.320 tries out and she makes the team. Her coach is 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:30.040 named Joe and he's played by Jonathan Rees Smyers, and 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.000 he thinks that she's got a lot of potential, but 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.679 her parents don't want her to play anymore, and like 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.679 her sister's gearing up to get married and they're all 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.120 like stressed out because of that. So her sister is 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:45.080 played by Archie Punjabi, who is my favorite character. I'm 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:49.000 the Good Wife show that I have seen every episode 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.600 of and remember could tell you zero things that happened 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:56.760 the entire show. It was like, I have no idea, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:01.600 I have no idea. I love Archie Enny of Alan Cuming, 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.000 and that's all I know about the show. Who was 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.720 even the lead in that show? Probably a wife that's 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:13.080 good Julianna Margolie's trick questions a good job anyways? Oh wait, 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.800 quite really quick, Alfred Molina mentioned please Chris know a 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:21.520 k Mr Big plays the husband in the Good Wife, 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.200 and Chris not as we all know, is the poor 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:28.000 man's Alfred Molina I said it. Yeah, okay, okay, I 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.520 can do. I'm glad we got that out there. So 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.360 Jess has to lie to her parents and like tell 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.400 them that she's got a job so that she can 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:41.040 start playing on this women's league women's side. I don't 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.959 know club club soccer. They're British and they use words 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.679 that I don't want to understand. And then Jules and 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.960 just develop a close friendship, and then they're both interested 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.880 in their coach Joe and tell each other for a 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.280 long time, right or they like they're only like kind 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.959 of hinting at it. But like there's a million times 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:06.520 where Kara and Knightley is like, I didn't know whatever, 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.680 and Jess is like, okay, you know, Jess plays it 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:16.000 way cooler than Kia Knightley. Kia Knightley is spazzing out anyways. Yeah, 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.640 I have never played it cool, not once. It's really 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.760 hard being chill for you. On a second, Oh, I 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:28.240 can't relate. So different things happen. Like there's a moment 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.640 where like Jess and Jewels are like kind of laughing 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.400 and hugging, and like a family friend drives by and 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.440 they think that Jesse is kissing someone, so like they 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.080 tell her family and then the wedding gets called off 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.440 because that's very frowned upon in the community. Jess has 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.800 to like sneak off to Germany to play a game, 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.160 and she has her sister cover for her. But like 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.520 all this stuff gets revealed that she has been playing 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.840 and her parents like forbid her from continuing to play. 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.600 But then she just keeps at it. She keeps lying. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:04.160 She committed to lie. She and Joe almost kiss for 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.160 a moment, and then like Jess walks in on them, 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:11.520 and then that creates some tension between them. Finally, her parents, 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.920 I think they find out about the Germany trip and 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.000 they like forbid her from ever playing soccer again. It 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.160 gets kind of convolated because it happens a bunch of 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.760 different times where it's like I think that the big 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.720 plot points go, like, they think she's gay, they capture 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:29.160 playing soccer, they think she's gay playing soccer. They think 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.680 she's gay, they let her play soccer. The movie's over, 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:34.840 but it is kind of like the same two conflicts 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.600 that keep sort of manifesting in different ways, right, yeah, Yeah, 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.400 So by the end, there is this like big tournament 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.079 game that there's like an American scout going to be 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.120 at who has his eye on both Jess and Jewels. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:52.600 But that's the same day of Jesse's sister's wedding, which 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:58.600 gets are fighting fighting over this man, and we'll get 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.160 there because I'm like, should he be dating any of 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:05.679 these girls? That doesn't seem like you should, right, But 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:10.360 the movie does not acknowledge that the characters do. They 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.600 keep saying yeah, like he's off limits, but then they 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.199 go for it anyway. But then he's like, j K, 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.280 I'm not like they're the reasons I thought he was 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.280 off limits and the reasons they thought he was off 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.760 limits were different reasons. I thought it was an age thing. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.200 But he's just like, oh no, I'm your coach. Oh right, 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.240 because they're they're meant to be in their late teens, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.440 like about to go to you. They're on like some yeah, 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.120 they're like it's like summer Bread looks young too. It's 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.440 not that I hope so he could also be like 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:42.280 twenty four though, and they're like eighteen. I don't know. 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.560 I guess. I mean, I I don't think laws are 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:49.120 being broken. It's just a little weird slightly Um yeah, well, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.200 we'll get into that went off. It's like, I don't 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:56.400 know if you should be um. So the final kind 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.280 of big moment in the story is that she's at 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.360 her sister wedding and has decided, well, you know, I 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.600 can't play soccer anymore because my parents forbid it. But 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.320 then her dad finally gives her his blessing because he 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.800 had seen her play in a game and like recognizes 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.480 her talent. So he's like, go off, and if this 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.240 is going to make you happy, go do it. So 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.000 she leaves the wedding, goes and plays like the second 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:22.040 half of this soccer game, scores the winning goal. The 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:26.200 scouts sees her and he's like, wow, great, let's send 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.720 you off to America, you know, the country that loves 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.800 soccer and that there are so many opportunities for soccer 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.680 players at Oh I didn't even think of that. There's 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.200 so many times in this movie where these characters in 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.680 the UK are like, we can't play soccer here, we 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:46.120 have to go to America in order to like make 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.760 a living at soccer, and it's like, is that that 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.600 might have been true? But also like the US like 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:58.240 hates soccer and women athletes and seems like a real 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:02.720 blanket lose. Maybe that's the movie being like, we want 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:06.040 to get international distribution. Maybe if we just compliment America 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:10.440 a bunch of times, they'll be like, okay, well, and 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.160 that must have worked because we've seen it and this 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:18.840 movie was financially huge success. Six million dollar budget, seventy 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:23.520 seven million dollar box off box office, so they got him. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.200 I'm so jealous of that one part of the movie 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.240 because our stories are pretty similar with the whole like 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.840 double life, lying blah blah blag ruining whatever. And then 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.320 like the port where her dad's like I saw her 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.600 and she's so talented, Like I never got that moment. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.280 My mom has never been like your dick joke was 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.600 so well crested. I can't hold you back from the world. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.920 There was more of I'm not going to stop doing this. 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.720 So they have kind to accept it, but they're not 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.840 necessarily they are not on board. She tries, bless her 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:57.240 heart in this day. Yeah, she even tries because she 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.080 won't see I won't let her it into a show. 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:01.840 I mean, if she does, maybe one day, but I 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:03.440 need a heads up, and it's gonna be a whole 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.760 different set and it's gonna be super annoying um, but 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.560 like she tries to watch stuff online or like she 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.080 tried to watch the Gym Jeffrey Show, which is gonna 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.600 be like news based, and she's like, I didn't like 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:20.160 current events and she was like, I tried to watch 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:21.920 it while I was fooling my laundries. So I tried. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.640 I'm like, all right, thanks mom, thank you. Every time 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.200 she tries, it's just way worse. Like she tried to 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.240 watch me I got head like a small non speaking 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.760 role on the front show, and she's like, why did 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.600 you look fat and nervous? And I was like I 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.160 was I could not look nervous. I didn't have any 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.080 lines and what do you mean fat? She's like she 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.359 just was like, am I just skinnier in knee life? 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:49.000 And I'm like what I very? Your mom sounds like 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.439 a very chill. She just has no fill. I mean, 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.600 I adhore it. I think it's really funny because she 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.040 has no filter. It's like and it like taught me 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.800 to be like I'm still very. I mean I would 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.639 like to be less sensitive, but what little insensitivity I 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.960 have to be? Like escrew it. It's like because my 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.800 mom has just been talking the entire time, I'm like, 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:11.800 I was some weird egg on Twitter. Wants to call 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:13.880 me a horror I'm like, well, get in line after 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:21.560 my mom. My mom's the ultimate egg. Come at my mom. 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.639 Does your mom member make comments on like your job? No, 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.680 She's been surprisingly supportive from the get go. She did 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.800 question whether or not I'd be able to ever make 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.080 a living at it, and when I did decide to 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.879 go to grad school to get a master's degree in 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.399 screenwriting from Boston University, I hate to bring it up. 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.879 I don't know if if anyone knows this about me, 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.720 because I would never mention it. But my mom she 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:48.480 was like, yeah, I don't know if that's a good 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.560 idea of Caitlin. Um. You already don't use your first 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.359 film degree, so like what are you thinking? And I 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.119 was like, no, this is really going to work out. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.560 And look at me now we've got a movie podcast 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:03.840 and I was like, wait, I'm trying to draw okay, yeah. Yeah. 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.080 My mom just sometimes will like look at something I did, 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.000 or like not even the full thing, like an image 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.960 of it, which she'll be like, I just it's just disgusting. 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.400 Oh okay, your issue with it is that it's disgusting 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:23.080 to you. And she's like it's good and I'm glad people, 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:27.400 but I find it disgusting. So cool, cool, I gotta 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:32.080 love our mom's I love I love an unfiltered mom. Um. Okay, 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.000 So the very end of the story is, so she 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.160 leaves the wedding to go play soccer. She gets recognized 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.000 as being a very talented player, goes off to the 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.840 US to play soccer in this you know, wonderful haven 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.040 that is this country that loves the sport of soccer 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:49.359 and loves female athlete, but not before a weird last 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:54.439 minute airport kiss. There's an airport kiss, and her parents 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.480 like finally she gives a speech, and then her dad 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.480 kind of was like, yeah, like we should let her 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.080 be being do it she wants. And then she's like, yeah, 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.560 I wanna this is like what's gonna make me happy, 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:07.840 so please let me make this choice. And her family 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:12.119 comes around, and then like she and Jules makeup and 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.040 they go off to play soccer together, but not before 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.639 there's a heatero kiss, and then that's pretty much the 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.600 end of the movie. Let's take a quick break and 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:29.639 then we will be right back and we're back. Sorry, 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:34.840 I had to go score some goals. Yeah, you can 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.200 only get one point in soccer right at a time. 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:44.040 At a time, yes, okay, mean total one goal, close 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.520 one point? Quit it right. There is a quaffle, there 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:51.480 is a snitch, there are some bloodguers, and yeah, I'm exhausted. 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:55.560 I don't want to like go right to the end. 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.800 But the logic of the airport kissing, it's so clearly 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:00.960 like to that I'm just like they got a note, 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.840 like they gotta note that. They're like, we gotta we 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.320 gotta see a kiss by the end of the movie. 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.240 But the logic of that scene is so weird because 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.959 I feel like, based on everything we know about Jesse's 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:17.760 family in this entire movie, they would not be like, 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.760 oh yeah, definitely make out with this guy at the airport. 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.240 But the guy enters behind the family, and we're to 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.680 believe the family just doesn't turn around, because this whole 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:33.240 scene takes place behind both families, Jesse's family and Jules's family, 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:37.359 and in front of Jules where you know she just 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.960 made up, but the reason they were fighting was this guy. 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:44.040 And like it's pretty like like Jess, that's a move 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.040 to just be like, remember this guy who didn't want 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.400 to fuck you feel like has like that and then 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:52.440 and then I don't know, I was just like the 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:56.680 logic of that scene was wild. It feels very tecked 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.400 on and like it wasn't given that much thought. Yeah, 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.960 where they're just like, oh, well, just everyone who isn't 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.919 indirectly evolved in the kiss avert your eyes as if 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:09.800 this is something that would happen. Very weird. So the 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:11.640 first thing I just want to mention about this movie 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:15.920 is that it is a movie about an Indian woman 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:21.080 directed by an Indian woman get Out. Yeah. I didn't 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.000