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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the World Knows Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast

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Speaker 3: Club Charlamagne the God, DJ Nvy just hilarious. Envy had

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Speaker 3: to bounce, but Lauren lo Rossa is in and we

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Speaker 3: got a special guest in the building. Man, he's got

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Speaker 3: a new podcast called the Rock Solid Podcast on the

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Speaker 3: Drink Champs Black Effect Podcast Networks. Him is bleak as hell.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Blizzo in the building with some lady. That's my guy

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Speaker 4: right here. I never met your ladies before, you know,

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Speaker 4: I just met I g Oh, yeah, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. I've seen I've seen you show some love.

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Speaker 4: I show love back.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Man, listen your ass. Don't age.

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Speaker 5: When I say you look good, Think when I was

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Speaker 5: young and you look good.

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Speaker 1: Now, thank you. I'm trying to win. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: hear that white for you beat watch.

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Speaker 5: Out into this personality blocker space. Now you my age

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Speaker 5: is stressed.

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Speaker 1: I know, Ryan Stratt, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to get into the controversy of the

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Speaker 4: blogger space and trying to bring some jokes.

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Speaker 1: I want to be like I feel like my podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I want to be like the sitcom when we was younger.

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Speaker 4: You know, you had your smack DVDs, your your your

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Speaker 4: wild moments, but then you could go in the crib

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Speaker 4: and watch some Martin. You're going to crib and watch

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Speaker 4: some fresh Prince and you know, get back to your

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Speaker 4: sense of humor. I feel like that's what my space.

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Speaker 4: I want to be just enjoying. I don't want no clickbait.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting though, most people who actually have gotten active

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Speaker 3: in the street don't want problems.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no. I love I love this life I live.

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Speaker 1: I don't got to watch my back. I don't need

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Speaker 1: no strap. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I love it because I even seen people say things

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Speaker 3: about you on social media and you just you just

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Speaker 3: laugh at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, cause it's like I'm from the era you know,

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Speaker 4: in the hood that like the more anger you show,

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Speaker 4: the more laughter comes to follow. So I really learned

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Speaker 4: that young. It's like you don't show you, you can't

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Speaker 4: show people that they even penetrate the armor you wear anything.

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Speaker 4: So I'm always laughing off even though I might be pissed,

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Speaker 4: but you'll never see that.

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Speaker 3: You know, most people start a podcast, I guess to

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Speaker 3: build some credibility.

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Speaker 2: You already got credibility.

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Speaker 3: So what do you want to say on the podcast

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Speaker 3: that you haven't said on records or an interview.

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Speaker 1: I feel like people don't know my personality.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, back in our day, you could be

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Speaker 4: whatever you want it because all they know was a

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Speaker 4: source magazine picture. They see you on BT or MTV,

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Speaker 4: your video, by your album, and that's all they knew

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Speaker 4: of you. Like now on Instagram, people get to see

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Speaker 4: your everyday life. So if you're corn ball, you're corn

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Speaker 4: ball for real. So it's like now on the podcast,

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Speaker 4: what I want to let people know is the personality

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Speaker 4: and just some of the stories behind the things that

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Speaker 4: we've done that you might have been questioning, how did

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Speaker 4: that happen? Why did this happen? Why wasn't Bleak involved

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Speaker 4: in this? Or why wasn't beings or this person involved?

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Speaker 4: So we had to answer those questions.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, you've been in rooms with some

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Speaker 3: of the biggest names in music, right but on Rock Solid,

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Speaker 3: are there stories you finally feel comfortable telling now that

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Speaker 3: you couldn't back then.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think I ever played that role in

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Speaker 4: the game, Like I never We never came in the

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Speaker 1: Hell, we always were just who we were.

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Speaker 4: I believed in integrity, was gonna take you as far

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Speaker 4: as you needed to go. So it was never no

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Speaker 4: rap image I portrayed or something. But it's just things

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Speaker 4: I can't talk about now because the big homie married.

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Speaker 1: We married, So God, can't you know I got a

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Speaker 1: pg it. I can't trade it. Like, so.

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Speaker 2: Have you and your wife ever watched backstage again?

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Speaker 1: No, I can never watch that one. No way.

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Speaker 4: I have to tell that wasn't me. The guys she

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Speaker 4: know today that's not him.

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Speaker 3: All bad an imparting backstage with one of y'all. I

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Speaker 3: think it's you ad like I didn't. I don't funk

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Speaker 3: all the Texas or something that, but half the country flipped.

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Speaker 1: And reversed it. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was on some ship we was battling and not records,

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Speaker 4: but we had versus for real.

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Speaker 5: So any upcome and guess that you well, is it

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Speaker 5: out yet?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: We just first episode with jo ru yesterday, so that

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Speaker 4: that did really good. A lot of people didn't know

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Speaker 4: me and Joe had that relationship. So that's the things

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Speaker 4: like I want people to understand, like behind the scenes

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Speaker 4: people from the outside would think it was Beans or

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Speaker 4: Met hanging out riding around with was joh Like people

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Speaker 4: don't know even Nick Cannon. Nick Kennon used to be

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Speaker 4: in mostly with us, Like it's because my friend, this

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Speaker 4: kid from my projects named clep rest In Peace, he

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Speaker 1: Like we all was managed by the Sacred Producer, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean same manager, you know, be Hot Jay Cousin managed

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Speaker 4: all three of us, Nick, me and Clep you know,

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Speaker 4: so he used to spit.

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Speaker 4: He never told me, Yeah, been a priority.

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Speaker 4: He was always talking about going in the show biz

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Speaker 1: Like music was never his thing.

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Speaker 4: So to see where he took it and what he

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Speaker 1: And that's that's my that's my area.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm gonna go do that he definitely

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Speaker 2: What was Nick doing in Marcy?

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Speaker 4: Just chilling, just regular stuff, Like you know, he was

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Speaker 4: was just regular Nick on the block, hanging out. He

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Speaker 4: couldn't go to Marsie back if you didn't know somebody

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Speaker 4: So a lot of people they want to experience it now.

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Speaker 2: I made it sound fun. You did make sound like

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Speaker 4: Bit, a little bit, you know a little bit. For us,

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Speaker 2: So your man used to go straight for Nick Cannon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, he.

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Speaker 2: Get like, what what record was?

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Speaker 4: I don't know it was those records, but it was

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Speaker 1: I always thought he was talented.

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Speaker 2: I ain't say that, I said you thought he was.

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Speaker 1: I always thought he was talented.

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Speaker 4: And then a couple of times you give the guys

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Speaker 4: I think that's the fear of every artist, like Yah,

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Speaker 4: No, but it was it was rough, like growing up,

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Speaker 1: Couldn't be in there playing with bars.

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Speaker 3: So sleuthing Nick, though definitely you speak about Baseline. You

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Speaker 3: jay Z's thrown like Jay called you the head to

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Speaker 3: the throne. What's something you learned about pressure and expectation

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Speaker 3: that took That took some time for you to understand.

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Speaker 4: It's not reality, like people will put limits and expectations

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Speaker 4: Like when Jay said that, I was like, I'm the

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Speaker 4: Of course I wanted to be the biggest one to

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Speaker 4: So it was nothing I could do. I just accept

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Speaker 2: You might have saw something you that you didn't see

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Speaker 4: That's what I He definitely did and to this day,

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Speaker 4: like you know, Jay pushed me to do I send

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Speaker 4: them music. It's so weird because I got a new

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Speaker 4: It's probably like my third album I recorded since my

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Speaker 4: So when I started sending them records from this one,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what changed.

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Speaker 4: I'm still trying to figure out what changed, because now

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Speaker 4: it's like you rocking with all the joints.

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's just where you're at in

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Speaker 2: So you was Apartment three D and they were apartment

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Speaker 2: uh fossie. And see that's what I like.

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Speaker 3: People always know you from the music with Jay Rady, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's Jay's protege. But yo, y'all grew up together in

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Speaker 3: the trenches.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing we grew up to, not together.

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Speaker 4: People think that, like they gotta remember Jay is like

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Speaker 4: the big brother, like the uncle, like I was the kid,

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Speaker 4: like one of his nephews on the black.

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Speaker 1: He didn't hang with me.

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Speaker 4: He came and got me, like seeing me doing reckless stuff,

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Speaker 4: correct me, give me gang.

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't no hanging out. It was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: I see you. That's Jay with that fan. I see you.

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Speaker 4: So the day when I seen it with Clark Kent

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Speaker 4: Man, everything you see? Man, just the if I live the

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Speaker 4: That's why I just had to talk with him this morning,

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Speaker 1: So we talked about it today and he.

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Speaker 4: Like, yo, bro, I don't just be licensing my my

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Speaker 4: Nobody owns anything you do, and now why would I

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 5: Right, do you think as an artist if you would

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Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't be here cause you know, you get

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Speaker 4: how he ain't gonna like that I'm telling this story.

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Speaker 4: We had an offer from Capitol Records, right. They wanted

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, I feel you, But that seventy five

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Speaker 1: So I'd rather roll with Hole. And it's before J.

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Speaker 1: It was no Rockefeller.

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Speaker 4: He was still this was Reasonable Doubt on Priority Jay,

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Speaker 4: This was during Reasonable Dow because Reasonable Doubt came out

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Speaker 5: I was literally gonna say, people talk so much about

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Speaker 4: It's weird seeing what people what I always saw in him,

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Speaker 4: You know, he's flying, traveling places. Member Jay got a

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Speaker 1: He always been that to me. So I don't think

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Speaker 4: Because the day I decided to be like, yo, I

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's funny even you know, not the

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Speaker 2: Too loyal to somebody? I don't know, especially if it's reciprocated.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, how can you be too I don't know

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Speaker 4: I don't know who I was gonna get a deal with.

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Speaker 4: We're artists. I'm gonna go sign with another artist and

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Speaker 1: So it's just like when Rockefeller died.

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Speaker 4: That's why they ever chased music, because it's like, what

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do, I'm gonna be g unit, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm never If it ain't Rockefeller, it ain't nothing. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's funny, right, you all wanted a few artists from

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Speaker 3: that era. Who seems like you never chased Clout when

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Speaker 4: We always been lit like since a kid, we always

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Speaker 4: if you think it's a burrough so in Brooklyn. Once

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Speaker 1: You man, you ain't. You didn't need nothing else Like so.

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Speaker 4: This industry thing, a lot of these people I feel

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Speaker 4: like because who they always wanted to be with rap fing,

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Speaker 4: I've been who I was and just got rap thing.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like I didn't have to

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Speaker 1: Oh, I had no clue. I had no clue.

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Speaker 4: That's why I give on my wife all of credit

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Speaker 1: We need to do. Boom boom, boom boom, and we

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Speaker 2: Here we are. And that's interesting because it's not like

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Speaker 4: No, and I had peoples, but it's still like when

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Speaker 4: I never had a job, like, never had to fill

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Speaker 1: Was fifteen years old, Like, I never had to work ever.

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Speaker 4: Then my wife was like you bugging y'all hold me

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Speaker 4: And that's how Duce came apart. And it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Listen, I want to ask you, like if you could

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Speaker 2: What would it be?

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Speaker 4: And why see, I'm gonna tell you another story people

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Speaker 4: Now mind you, I'm fifteen years old sitting there like,

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Speaker 1: After these two guys, I don't think it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: And Clue like, yo, go ahead, So Jy like, Yo,

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Speaker 4: right now, you better write son And I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: Of Both Worlds, if you listen to it, he was

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Speaker 1: If you listen to the.

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Speaker 4: Beginning, he saved my name em extra money, Let's go,

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Speaker 4: And I never wrote my verse, Why.

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Speaker 2: You little scared ass man?

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Speaker 4: No, no, see, we had a thing in Rockefeller. It

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Speaker 1: I ain't got time being the studio.

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Speaker 4: That's how I clipped a value one too, I thinking

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Speaker 1: I missed it, missed the old tour.

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Speaker 2: What what in my lifetime? I boty won what you

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Speaker 1: I was? I was lit in Brooklyn, I had I

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Speaker 4: I got TVs twenty six is on it. I'm sixteen

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm doing. I thought I made it. I

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Speaker 5: Lit, this is it and then I left off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's the time Jay came to the crib

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Speaker 4: like I don't need you, you need me.

442
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,360
Speaker 1: And that was the last time I missed anything.

443
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 5: Man, I was gonna ask you because I watched Drink

444
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 5: Champs and I saw that. But you also have crazy

445
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,280
Speaker 5: amounts of jay Z features. It's like twenty four to

446
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 5: twenty five of them.

447
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 1: How many I think we are about thirty thirty?

448
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 5: Okay, So in the accumulation of all those thirty, your

449
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 5: go to what's your favorite one of them?

450
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 1: Hypnotic?

451
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 4: Hypnotic because I could say the way that song came about,

452
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 4: Jay wasn't supposed to be a part of it. He

453
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 4: thugged his way on that one. Like you know, Beans,

454
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,119
Speaker 4: Beans was the one who came up with the whole concept.

455
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 4: We were supposed to do the Beans and Bleak album

456
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 4: in Miami. He was bullshiting with balls, like I said,

457
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,360
Speaker 4: going to the club. So I come to the studio

458
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 4: Beans in there the studio dark, these things got encense,

459
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 4: playing a blasting all type shit, and I hear this

460
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,120
Speaker 4: song and I'm like, what the hell is the beans? Like, Yo,

461
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 4: I just caught this vibe and I'm making this record

462
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 4: and I'm like, he like, Yo, you should put a

463
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 4: verse on it, and I'm like all right. And then

464
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 4: we get back home. We playing the joint for Jay

465
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 4: in the office. He like when my verse go, go

466
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 4: extend that beat. And then the record came out Nobody,

467
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 4: and then we ain't know what album to put it

468
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 4: on because nobody album was coming out at that time.

469
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 4: So that's how it ended up on my album. So

470
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 4: I could say that's one of my favorite go to

471
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 4: records because it's a least expected record from all three

472
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,400
Speaker 4: of us. Like somewhere we allaying none of us ever

473
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 4: touched before.

474
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 5: We're gonna get a Jay z Bleak sit down on

475
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 5: the podcast people I.

476
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: Want to, but not right now because Jay heat. Yeah.

477
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 4: Like what people don't understand is no matter how old

478
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 4: I get, Jan ain't gonna let me be the businessman

479
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 4: sitting there like I could really conduct the conversation with him, like, yo,

480
00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,239
Speaker 4: so you know what we did. It's never like this

481
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 4: will be the hardest interview to do, like because he's

482
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 4: gonna diss me the whole interview.

483
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: Like do I want people to know he talked to

484
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: me this way?

485
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 4: Do we say certain things? Do we talk to each other?

486
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 4: Like he might not even want people to know how

487
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 4: I talk to him all the time, Like you know,

488
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 4: like even with the Jai ru Uh Jay funny because

489
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 4: the Jairou interview come out, he hit me, yo, that

490
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 4: wasn't me who said no?

491
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: Do you find out what nah?

492
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 3: Man?

493
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: I think? I don't know, man, you know, I don't

494
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: think nobody said no.

495
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 4: I think it was just two camps moving too fast,

496
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 4: like I told jab joab blew up his astronomically. Man,

497
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 4: when we before we talked about doing an album together.

498
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 4: We were both Nobody's. We were both features on the

499
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 4: jay Z Talk.

500
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: I was there.

501
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 3: My first concert ever was a hard Knock Life to It.

502
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 3: That was two thousand and talk in South Carolina.

503
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 2: We come boy to you and he bought you and Jill.

504
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 4: Just the freestyle no beans and joh beans and joah yeah,

505
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 4: and then I came out on this to all right.

506
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 4: That's what the single I had out at the time,

507
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 4: But after that tours like Joe was four million sold

508
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 4: everything he dropped. I seen him in the mall one

509
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: hundred crips and bloods with them like, oh he ain't

510
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 4: the same my guy. He on he out there man.

511
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 4: So that's what I think it was. Man, two crews,

512
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 4: that two superstars. Man, there's no time you know what

513
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It ain't like it was malice involved. It

514
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 4: is just we get into this money.

515
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: That you got a podcast though, because I feel like

516
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: there's a core of rocker fella all that crew that

517
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: gets talked about.

518
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: But they don't ever respond. Like Jay gets talked about

519
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: all the time. You get talked about all the time,

520
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: and we get talked about time, and it's.

521
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 3: A whole gang of y'all old friends and stuff that's

522
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: always talking about y'all, but we don't ever hear the

523
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 3: other side.

524
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 4: Because it's too much the cover. It's too much like yo,

525
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 4: I go on Twitter. Rock Nation is blank for everything.

526
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 4: We the reason why people in jail were the reason

527
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 4: why guns Like I don't know why did since when

528
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 4: Rock Nation have all this influence, we could influence people

529
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 4: in other countries that lock people up when they land,

530
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 4: Like if we had that much power.

531
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: They need to.

532
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 4: Clear some of this red tape for me and my

533
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 4: g's because I got to do still on parole.

534
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: Why why can't get them off there? And we could

535
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: put you in?

536
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 3: Why can't get somebody off? Has definitely become the evil Empire, Yo,

537
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

538
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but you know it's the thing

539
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: in our community.

540
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 4: When you make so much money, it gotta be some

541
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 4: type of evilness to it.

542
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: But my thing is, why didn't I get the evil

543
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: spell or potion?

544
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 4: They just left me out the whip when it did

545
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 4: the ritual?

546
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: I just.

547
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 3: Like, did it ever bother you that? It was like

548
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 3: you had to head to the throne. Then it was like,

549
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: it's like that narrative got past to Kanye then Cole.

550
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 3: It's like they skipped over bleak and went's great to

551
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 3: the next chap.

552
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: I love it though, man, when it came down to

553
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 4: Kanye west Man, even though Kanye Documentary, I told him, Yo,

554
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 4: dog you nice, you gonna be one of those guys.

555
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: But as you can see, man, this fame it's like

556
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 4: the illess drug.

557
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: Man, it really is. Man.

558
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: Some people get this high and they can never come down.

559
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 4: They're gonna chase it for the rest of their lives,

560
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 4: and it's sad to see man, But Kanye is a

561
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 4: musical genius. The person he is today, I don't get

562
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 4: into that. I leave that that's him. He's gonna have

563
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: to find some healing with that, you know what I mean?

564
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 5: Are you somewhat sometimes when you look at Kanye what

565
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 5: he's going through, happy that your career is where it's at,

566
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 5: where you have a little bit more solitude in peace

567
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 5: versus him.

568
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 4: I'm never happy to see one of my friends going

569
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 4: through anything, you know, So it never makes me happy

570
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 4: or compare myself to them. It's just I don't want

571
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: to see it, you know, I turn it off.

572
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: I try.

573
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: I hear about it more than I see it because

574
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 4: I can't watch my friends spiral a lot of control,

575
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like it's.

576
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: Just whacked me.

577
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 3: Another thing that was going around Dame started and he said,

578
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 3: you don't write your own rhymes to write for you,

579
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: and then her Beanie say that too.

580
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: On it.

581
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 4: I want to know why I never went triple platinum?

582
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 4: Then why ain't follow up them?

583
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: J Cells?

584
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 4: If Jay wrote these records, why the publisher checks come

585
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 4: to me? I shall have ask caps send these people

586
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 4: my record breakdown. They could see that four hundred and

587
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 4: seventy five records in all the splits and now understand

588
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 4: Like on title it actually shows credits if somebody, if

589
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 4: I wrote something for somebody, even if you my man,

590
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 4: now dog, I need my PC. Jay wrote coming to

591
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 4: Age one, Coming Age two. I had no input at

592
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 4: all on those records. When I showed up, it was

593
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 4: a piece of paper. Remember this, do your thing. It's like, okay, cool,

594
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 4: you go through dumb records. You're not gonna see my name.

595
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 4: You go do any other record that I'm Malik.

596
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: Cox is on.

597
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 4: The real MC is involved, So I don't know where

598
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 4: that that that really came from. Beans is the main

599
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 4: one that got me, like, Fam, you doing.

600
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: That much drugs? You don't remember being in the studio

601
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: with me? Are you set? You bugging?

602
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: Like Dane was never in the studio with us, so

603
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 4: he wouldn't have a clue. Beans, come on using the

604
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 4: studio with us every single day. We spent about twenty

605
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 4: years in baseline and Jay wrote my rhymes.

606
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: But you never saw it that's coming. I saw a

607
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: ghost once too then.

608
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: But when you said you were coming to age one

609
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 3: and two. Yeah, okay, so did you ever want him

610
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: to write for you?

611
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: Right now?

612
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 4: Give me a verse right now, put me back on, baby,

613
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 4: let's get lick kidding me. Man like you, when you

614
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 4: want somebody to do something for your axe, for that

615
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 4: you're giving the way. It's the same thing as giving

616
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 4: away your money, like you're publishing. That's the only way

617
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: we really made money. A lot of US rappers never

618
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: recouped the budgets we spent on these albums. So your

619
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 4: publishing is the only way you make money. And Joe

620
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 4: taught me about publishing. So if Jay wrote my rhymes

621
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: like I said, I wouldn't be receiving no publishing checks.

622
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: It don't make no sense the rhymes he write I

623
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: get paid for.

624
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 5: How well when things like this happen, right because Charlam said,

625
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 5: people I do real quick.

626
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: But I know, are you going to have beans on

627
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: as a guest?

628
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I need to have beans up there cause

629
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: we gotta get a we gotta get this settle and

630
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 4: then talk about, you know, the life we live.

631
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: It's like you haven't even spoken since he said that.

632
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 5: No, that's exactly where I was going at all.

633
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my question.

634
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: Because you love you too. Good luck on the you

635
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They can happen on the audition.

636
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: You know, And I guess that's the thing I love.

637
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 3: Man, Like we always hear about these studio moments, but like,

638
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: what's a non music moment with with anybody from Rockefeller

639
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: that really just sticks with you through the year?

640
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: Man?

641
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: You know what one thing that always bugged me out?

642
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 4: Buster the rhymes. I love Buster splips start on my bros.

643
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: I love them.

644
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: But I remember one time, I think it was.

645
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: Jay called Bust to the studio to do a song

646
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 4: with him, and Buster showed up to baseline with a

647
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 4: bulletproof vests on.

648
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: It blew my mind like, yeah, like Buster got beat.

649
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: I guess me want to try to kill Bust the rhymes?

650
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: We gotta go get them, man, y'all buck it. This

651
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: is a New York staple.

652
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: And that really had me like, I kinda find out

653
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 4: what Bust into? What the hell you walking around with

654
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 4: a vest for? You know, just one of those moments

655
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: I'll never forget. And now I ain't gonna put nobody

656
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 4: under bust. You know a lot of people married, so

657
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna say, oh I saw this guy with

658
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 4: this girl.

659
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: I could.

660
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

661
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: Now I want to know. We want to know, do

662
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: you did you did you ever feel like behind the scenes,

663
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: well not say this, At any one point, did you

664
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: feel like.

665
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: Jay was drifting too far from the crew?

666
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: And if so, how do you even address that when

667
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: he's not just you know, you're big homie, but also

668
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: like the boss.

669
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 4: I knew he had to for Jay to be where

670
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: he at, he couldn't be around us every day. We

671
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: couldn't be I'm a liability, like you know me now

672
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 4: being married, being a businessman, of course things has changed,

673
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 4: but the reckless bleak you couldn't be around us, anything

674
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: that happen, and then it spills right back to you.

675
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: So once Jay started.

676
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: Doing these billionaire deals, basketball teams, moving teams from here

677
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: to Brooklyn, you automatically knew the distance was warranted. It's

678
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: not that he don't rock with you or don't rock

679
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 4: with us. Hey, dog, I'm over here getting to these millions.

680
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 4: Y'all still in the club popping bottles.

681
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't need that.

682
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 5: Look, how did you understand something like that? Though? But

683
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 5: like a beanie, didn't I don't know? And you're trying

684
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 5: to tell these guys.

685
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

686
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 4: If you really sit down, see a lot of people

687
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: when they do on these cameras cut on. They got

688
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: an image. They gotta you know, they gotta keep it up.

689
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: I'm this guy. I can't let nobody. But if they

690
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 4: really really sit down and have a real, real conversation

691
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: with the reality pills on the table, not the other drugs,

692
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: the reality pills, they'll tell you. I told these guys

693
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 4: this was coming because I used to get the word

694
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 4: from Big Homer. Yo, niggas don't ship up, they don't

695
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 4: act right. We gonna do this we go. I used

696
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 4: to be telling these guys, yo, it's only a matter

697
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 4: of time for it's over. We gotta get this right.

698
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: And they used to look at me like and whatever,

699
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: Like I remember time right. Beans had his clothing line

700
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: state property. We used to get clothes boxes of state property.

701
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 4: So I look at the state property and say, manufactured

702
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: by Rockaway. So I'm telling him as a brother, yo,

703
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: bro check your contracts and all that. Make sure everything right,

704
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: like because I see it's manufactured by Rockaway. I don't

705
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 4: think Rockaway was making their own clothes. So how they're

706
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: making your clothes like this as a business man. This

707
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: was like then seen right, And this was at the

708
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 4: time when he was saying, Yo, I'm going to jail.

709
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sign Freeway and the Young Guns the Rockefeller.

710
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: When I come home, they gonna give them back the

711
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: state property. And I'm just sitting there like, oh, you

712
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 4: think business work like this. So I'm trying to tell

713
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 4: him these things. Like he looked at me. This is

714
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: when I knew me and beans wasn't It wasn't the

715
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 4: relation you wasn't saying because he was like, Yo, it

716
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: sounds like.

717
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: You hating on me, fam, And I'm like what you mean?

718
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: He like, Yo, if j your man, like you say,

719
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 4: why you ain't got no record label, why you ain't

720
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: got no clothing line? Dang, my man, you're taking care

721
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: of me all this, And I'm like, I feel you,

722
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: but you know why I don't have those things because

723
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 4: my bro would never exploit my ideas for him to

724
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: make a bag. That's what you need to realize. They're

725
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: taking your ideas. And then when he came from jail

726
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: way he said, da ain't wantly two million should have

727
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 4: listened to Blizzard, But like I said, Jay, not my man, though, So.

728
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 5: What was getting to the bottom of the manufacturing. What

729
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 5: ended up being behind that?

730
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: What was that was his business? I never got into it.

731
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 4: It just was a red flag to me, Like if

732
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do a deal with you and you're gonna

733
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 4: make my clothes, I need to know who the manufacturer is.

734
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: It's just like I did a deal.

735
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 4: With Drink Champs, right, I know Drink Champs, y'all, y'all

736
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: had a deal with somebody, y'all start on y'all network.

737
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: I need to know.

738
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: Who the plug is Black Effects, Like, I can't just

739
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: be we need to know what's going on here. You

740
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, I can't just rely on

741
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 4: you when you relying on somebody else. I need to

742
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: know all the moving parts. And that's as any businessman should.

743
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: You want to know the moving parts. You don't just

744
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 4: want to receive the checks because one day they're gonna stop.

745
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: Then you don't know how to pick them back up.

746
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 4: Its insane, that's real, you know.

747
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: I named I named it Black Effect because the jay

748
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: Z song Black Effect Wow. I reached out to him

749
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: to get the blessing Wow to call it Black Effects,

750
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: and the logo uh was Emery's guy that designed I said,

751
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: y'all want something like the paper planes logo and.

752
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: Do yo, God bless because when I found out, man,

753
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: I've been hearing it forever.

754
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: And when they said yo Charlamagne old black Offeid, I'm like, Yo,

755
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: he is destroying the game. That's right, bro.

756
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: That's all you can do, man, is pray and keep killing.

757
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: That's it, man, They only get one shot at this thing.

758
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: A lot of these guys think it's all about the glitz. Man,

759
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: you could keep the glamor in the glitz. Give me

760
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: the check. I gotta tell people credit, don't spend money due.

761
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: I don't want the credit.

762
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: How do y'all do you define success now? And is

763
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: it different from fifteen year old how he would have

764
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: defined it?

765
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: Your fifteen year old me was the Porsche on the

766
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 4: wall stadmant house. You know what I'm saying, rich girl like,

767
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 4: oh butrah, just letting me be Stadman out here. That

768
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: was me as a kid, you know. But me now,

769
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: success to me is what I have, love in the household,

770
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 4: healthy family, your health, so you could be you know,

771
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: you'd be thankful for the things you have and the

772
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: things you don't is like don't matter.

773
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: No more. Like my goals now are to leave a

774
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: legacy for my children.

775
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: Like before it was y'all gotta go to the tunnel

776
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: into Bentley, Now it's nah. I gotta make sure my

777
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: daughter don't ever ever turn her head with a horn

778
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: hark when somebody honked the horn.

779
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: No better be watching traffic. That's it.

780
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: What was it?

781
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 5: What was it that that moment for you were that

782
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 5: bleak entered the world.

783
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 4: I think it was right before I got married, man,

784
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 4: because it was at a time when you know, like

785
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: he said, I was the I don't know how it happened,

786
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: but I became like the run of Rockefeller, like out

787
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 4: of nowhere, I'm the wackest rap or Rockefeller like oh work.

788
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: So the so the three go albums in one platinum

789
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 4: didn't matter, Like okay, I take it, I'm the whackest one.

790
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 4: So it was like at a time when you feel

791
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 4: like you you just all alone, man, and it's like

792
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 4: you have nothing. All you have is family, Like money

793
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: don't buy happiness. Money buy you things that make people

794
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 4: envyous more of you. So if you think about it,

795
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: money is the root of all evil. But I feel

796
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: like love is all you need, man, if you got

797
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: the right people around you, with no no intent, no

798
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: negative tensions, everybody just pulling the same strings and want

799
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 4: to see everybody do good.

800
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: That's the success right there.

801
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: I know.

802
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: I don't think there was ever a conversation that Bleak

803
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: is whack. It was just that Jay set the bar

804
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: too hot.

805
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he.

806
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: Said just the new improved jay Z. Everybody waiting for that.

807
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: So you don't appreciate Bleak for what Bleak is.

808
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: But I'm better than whole. He know that he don't

809
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: want battle.

810
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: I tried to battle sauce one time. I thought I

811
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: was better at this sauce like sauce money.

812
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: Don't want no smoke. This is my hood.

813
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 4: I'm the new young sheriffs in town. I seen them

814
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 4: come with us in the project, seeing them coming through

815
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: your sauce.

816
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: What up?

817
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: It's battle.

818
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 4: That's when he spit that line to me, man, because

819
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: it's chin niggas think they Chinese the way they duck sauce.

820
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 1: That's it. I'm done.

821
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: You got it.

822
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't want no more smoke.

823
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: Damn.

824
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 5: What about I know you were signing an artist at

825
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 5: one point two?

826
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm done.

827
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: I'm done artist last Yeah, cash shutout cast free cash Man,

828
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 4: but I'm done.

829
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: No Lodes don't listen like you.

830
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: All I could do is tell him, and I feel

831
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 4: like me getting out the game and trying to be

832
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 4: behind the scenes and telor artists.

833
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: They more looked at it as man, I'm more lit

834
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: than you. What you're talking about you don't know nothing.

835
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: If you do all this, you would be.

836
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: Litt and it's like, fam, I'm not rapid because I

837
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: chose not to.

838
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: My last album went gold.

839
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: Don't forget they didn't exit me out the game off

840
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 4: a fifty thousand pack.

841
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: I left with a gold record, which is cool.

842
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 4: I take that, and they just I just felt like

843
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: the artists just thought, man, you don't really know what's up.

844
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: Man. Let me high at Jay and it's like you're

845
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: never gonna get that.

846
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: He's never so you know, and they wanted too much

847
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 4: too fast, like they don't understand it takes time.

848
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: You have to work, work, and work more.

849
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: I watched interview with casting over where he talked about

850
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 5: you actually took him to the office and I sit down.

851
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 5: I think it was to tell you to kind of relaxed,

852
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 5: and it still didn't work. It was here, Oh that

853
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 5: was here.

854
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's when you know.

855
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 4: It came a time when Cass was, you know, discructive

856
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: employee and he wanted direct access to the nation and me,

857
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 4: I'm not a gatekeeper. I'm never gonna hold nobody from

858
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 4: their goals, their dreams or whatever. If you believe the

859
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 4: grass is green over there, I'm gonna put you over there.

860
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 4: But then when we get to that Rock Nation brunch

861
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: and you ain't got them tickets, you know why.

862
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: You over there, now, fan, they only got one in

863
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: the pack. If you was over here, got that faux pack.

864
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 5: They don't. Never get on your nerves though that People

865
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 5: kind of underestimate your contributions to like music, and you're

866
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 5: so humble with it, but it is.

867
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 4: What can I do. I can't argue against the masses

868
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: on one small voice. So it's like, how mad can

869
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 4: I real? I could be mad internally, but no one cares.

870
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: They don't care. Man Like, people love turmoil. They want

871
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 4: to see you do bad, or see you angry, or

872
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 4: see you upset, and it's like to see a smile

873
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 4: on your face. It hurts the hater's heart.

874
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: It hurt them bad. They don't want to see you smile.

875
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: You said something earlier. Let me know you really a

876
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: friend though, because even if you and your home he

877
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: ain't talking, you know that's your man.

878
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: Yes, you ain't got to talk to him for a

879
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: couple of months or whatever, even a year, but you

880
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: know that's your man.

881
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: You're seeing what they're doing. That's my guy.

882
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: I know we see each other. It's gonna pick up

883
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: right well left far.

884
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: That's a fact.

885
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 4: That's why I tell people, Man, if you and somebody

886
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 4: got a real genuine relationship, not based off some type

887
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: of business, intriguing or whatever y'all doing's just genuine friendship.

888
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 1: It can never die.

889
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 4: Unless somebody break the bond. Like I even say it

890
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 4: in one of my songs. Man, I say I'm a

891
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 4: friend for life. Once you link with me, I'm a

892
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,959
Speaker 4: friend for life. Once you link with me, we tight

893
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: until you break the bond. Then it's long kiss good night.

894
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 4: And that's true. I'm one hundred percent that I don't care.

895
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 4: I got friends like my dog, Rob, Kelly and Dublin.

896
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: I don't speak to him every day, but when I

897
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 4: pop out in Ireland, he right there at the.

898
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Airport to get me. All my friends.

899
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 4: Any country I touch down whether I'm in London with

900
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: my god Clue Grease Sniper, my guys is there and

901
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 4: he's been my friends for the last twenty years, you

902
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

903
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm often am I in London.

904
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 5: But I was gonna ask what's your relationship with Dean

905
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 5: Dash It's cool.

906
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 4: I spoke to Dame, like we agreed upon, you know,

907
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 4: to keep things respectful, because I felt like things was

908
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: going a little bit too far, especially you know what

909
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 4: I mean, when when the legal accuisations was going around

910
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 4: and people leaning on that, like you really don't know

911
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 4: people integrity.

912
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: That's what rubbed me wrong.

913
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 4: It's like you was dead with us fam, You're gonna

914
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 4: act like you don't know the integrity we went outside

915
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 4: with man like people was playing that game. We don't

916
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: play that kid game. And that rubbed me wrong. So

917
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: I had to reach out to Damon. It was a

918
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 4: respectful conversation.

919
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: The wildest thing about that is when when all of

920
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: that shit went away and everybody you just knew it

921
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: was bullshit from the beginning, When everybody realized it.

922
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 2: Was bullshit, it was crickets cricket. Nobody said nothing.

923
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: No, they wanted It's like people want Jay to be

924
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 4: guilty of some some bull and it's like your fam

925
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 4: we were who we were for we got here, like

926
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: we didn't become who we are in this industry. So

927
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 4: the things you see that a lot of these people

928
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: took advantage of their stardom, their fan.

929
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: That's not us. We been lit.

930
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know why people think the rap game

931
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: made jay Z who he is.

932
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: He came in this game up. Trust me.

933
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: How did the passing the clock Kemp impacting?

934
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 4: I was real devastating, man, Like clock played a major

935
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 4: major role in my you know, my upbringing, my first album,

936
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: like even putting together the record we recorded coming to

937
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 4: age and his basement, wow as his house, Like he

938
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 4: made the b on the spot and we recorded it

939
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 4: on the spot. So just knowing the contribution he put

940
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: into music way then into my life, the game, the goals.

941
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: He always told me.

942
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 4: I just cherish him, man, And it's just so sad

943
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: to see him go that young over something that was

944
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 4: preventable like us as young black men. Man, please go

945
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: get tested with all hell, physical cool colon, all that.

946
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 5: Man.

947
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: Do it. People say forty five, do it at thirty five.

948
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: If you can. It's never too early, but it can

949
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: be too late.

950
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: I wouldn't got mine at forty four.

951
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 4: I ain't got mine forty and then did it again

952
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 4: like a year ago, and they told me I don't

953
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 4: got to come back for another seven.

954
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, because you got a history of it

955
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 3: in your family. Yes, they tell you to go to

956
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: go early. Yeah, we both got birthdays coming up.

957
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 2: That's right you six twenty three right.

958
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty nine Yeah, man catcer gang in the building.

959
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 5: Two way different personalities. You're so sweet and humble. He

960
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 5: is too cool alright.

961
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: He just got that right, Yo, you know how to

962
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 4: throw that whip quick hit you with that.

963
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 5: You My friends are always my friends and he is.

964
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: Hell, you ain't heard the bleak running down on people's story.

965
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: What I'm saying I watched, I've heard.

966
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 4: But that's when my friends say. They always be like, Yo,

967
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 4: you meet and bleak right now? You still ain't met

968
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 4: Malik Malik the business man. That's when it's serious.

969
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: Had gloves off, no plane, talk.

970
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,959
Speaker 5: About your relationship with Nori, Because like for me sitting

971
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 5: and watching you on Drink Champs, when I saw the podcast,

972
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: I was like, this makes so much sense because when

973
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 5: he's interviewing. It's just so good, you're so into it.

974
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 4: Norri gassed me up to do this. Just FYI, I

975
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: did not want to do the podcast.

976
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: Gassed me.

977
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna say he bagged me, because you don't

978
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 4: bag nobody but me and Norri relationship started. It started

979
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: before I even knew him. Man, when I bought the

980
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: whatever it Say first album Compona Norriget the Wall Report album,

981
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 4: I knew right there, when I get my album, when

982
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 4: I get my deal and my chance to make my album,

983
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: I need this guy on my album because he talked

984
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: that life that I taught. So when I met him

985
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: and we did the record, what you niggas want to

986
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: hay for? Yeah, like, and I'm like, wait up, he

987
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 4: really liked me, and he from left Rack that's right

988
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 4: there over the bridge, I being left Rack playing board

989
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 4: the Kenny Anderson tournaments, like that's my guy. Then from

990
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: there the relationship just brew And when we did the

991
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 4: Drink Champs interview, he called me again like bleek, I'm

992
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 4: telling you, people rock with you, they fuck with you,

993
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 4: and like you need to do something. And I'm like, yo, bro,

994
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: I'm not a journalist. I don't I don't care less

995
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 4: what a person mind state was working on their project.

996
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't want to find that out.

997
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: And he like, Yo, you don't have to interview people.

998
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: People want to know about what you think and your history,

999
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: Rockefeller stories. He like, you literally could just talk Rockefeller

1000
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 4: in it. I'm like, all right, let's see. So after

1001
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: I did the first couple of interviews, like you know,

1002
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: I got Guru just blaze freeway, young.

1003
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: Chris, I got a couple heavy at this Leneys.

1004
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 4: And after I got a few and started realizing where

1005
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 4: it was going, I'm like, this is needed.

1006
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: People did need to hear.

1007
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 4: They need to hear this, man, cause I think a

1008
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 4: lot of these young guys they think it's one way.

1009
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 4: If you not a killer, you can't be a rapper.

1010
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 4: Like they really got to kill on YouTube and drop

1011
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: the video the next that next minute. Then they go

1012
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 4: platinum and it's like your fam, where's the cool people,

1013
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 4: where's the regular guys? That's what we represented. Nobody had

1014
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 4: Rockefeller was the ultimate killer. We just was hustlings who

1015
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: got money right, And I feel like that has died,

1016
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: That image died in music. So to bring that back

1017
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 4: through the podcast, I think people listen more than watch.

1018
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: So that's why I think y'all need a platform. Man,

1019
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: I say it all the time. The rock Nation, that core.

1020
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 3: Of people, the most normal people I've ever met in

1021
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 3: this business in my life.

1022
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: We know the weirdos and that they're the most normal people.

1023
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 4: No, that's a fact, man, Like it's no, it's no.

1024
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: If you as a weird on Rockefeller, we got you

1025
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 4: out of there early. We we the strainer was out early.

1026
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: And we shook the loose anside of there.

1027
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 4: So when it comes down to the Emery's man like,

1028
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 4: Emery is the OG. I tell him, he's the definition

1029
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: of a OG to me, like when people talking about

1030
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 4: original gangster, not just an old guy, original gangster. His

1031
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: picture need to be there because that's what he is.

1032
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: He's the epitome of that. Just if you know his story,

1033
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 4: his history, he laid down on the sword for the team,

1034
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 4: and then you come home to reap the benefits of it. Like,

1035
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 4: I don't think no man walking right now will ever

1036
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 4: try to.

1037
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: Even repeat that. I don't think we'll ever see it

1038
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: done again.

1039
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: Nah.

1040
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: And then his vision, like I remember being in the office,

1041
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: would be high when Emery had just came home and

1042
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: he was. He literally had folded up a piece of

1043
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: stationary and was throwing it around the paper plane. He

1044
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: was like, that's gonna be the next shit Like.

1045
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 2: I remember that.

1046
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: So it's just like when you see somebody have a

1047
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: vision like that and see what has become now, it's like,

1048
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: come on man.

1049
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Emery always been and been the super Flyers, dude,

1050
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: I know coming from you know what I mean, Baltimore DMV.

1051
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: I respect Emory.

1052
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 4: I would love to have him on a podcast like

1053
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: a person like Tata, but I know Tata never come.

1054
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: I got a kidnapped to gain about the pie.

1055
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 5: But don't you feel like they gotta tell it like

1056
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 5: it's a given it has to happen with you.

1057
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 4: I would hope they will want to tell it with me.

1058
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: But knowing Ti No, they can't talk to me. They

1059
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 4: not gonna do Ta Kid, not him, Jay, Emrie might

1060
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 4: because I feel like Emrie and Wan they they give

1061
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 4: me that. I bleiker o g he one of us

1062
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 4: Ta Ti Jay is like, nope, you're still a little

1063
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 4: dirty kid from BOSSI.

1064
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: I can't get out of here.

1065
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 5: But I think even seeing that would be good for

1066
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 5: people too, because we don't get to like I'm literal.

1067
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 5: I'm sitting here listening to y'all talk right now, and

1068
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,479
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, I can't imagine it was like being

1069
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 5: around during all. These people are so great to us,

1070
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 5: but they're normal people to y'all. People might need to

1071
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 5: see the personality a bit.

1072
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 4: They definitely do. Man like Tata is funny. Man like

1073
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 4: he run from the camera. So that's how I know

1074
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: if I did an interview with Tai, have to be

1075
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: over the phone like he locked up. Wen't have to

1076
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: act like he phoning in. But he not gonna get

1077
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: over it. I know him, Man, it's been years. He's

1078
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 4: not gonna do it.

1079
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: But that's what makes y'all so solid though, because nobody

1080
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 3: wanted to be anybody like.

1081
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: Old was that guy?

1082
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: You know?

1083
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: You know how hard that is for a bunch of men,

1084
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 3: especially to get behind one guy and say that's the guy.

1085
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: He's gonna help change all our lives.

1086
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 4: Because you knew it, man, Like you knew it, Yo,

1087
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: you knew it. See from back then, you knew you

1088
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 4: could see the ray of light in the clouds with Jaywalk.

1089
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 4: Like I tell people I was there from the beginning.

1090
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 4: I could tell you the cars they drove, the clothes

1091
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 4: they wore, the malls they shop, and the kind of women,

1092
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 4: the liquor they drunk, the food they ate, and your

1093
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: results won't be the same. I could put you on

1094
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: the same path, tell you everything they did. I remember

1095
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 4: us sitting in the house making gift baskets to send

1096
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 4: the power and hot just to get the DJs.

1097
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: To play his record.

1098
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't even around back then.

1099
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: No, it was really hot, but sending gift backet gift

1100
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: baskets with chrystyle and all these different trinklets in there,

1101
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 4: just to get DJ's to play j record.

1102
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: Like I remember us ground.

1103
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 4: And then when it clicked, it was like it's over

1104
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 4: and he said, I'm never gonna stop.

1105
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: Andreie was the first person to play it.

1106
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 4: I think, yep, Angie was the first person to show love.

1107
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: That's why Andre's down with the team to this day.

1108
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: She's Angie. I feel like back then it was Miss Jones.

1109
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 4: Wendy was really popping, like flex always been there enough

1110
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 4: man the radio stage, that's when it was. It was

1111
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: impactful then man like now today, Like I heard the

1112
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 4: homie right before me talking about artists they lost love

1113
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: for the radio. They just believe in streaming me. I

1114
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 4: love radio. I feel like this is the way to

1115
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: reach the masses. Like yes, on the Internet, you have

1116
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 4: to really sit there, click it, watch it, watch your

1117
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 4: watch this.

1118
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: It's like, nah, I'd rather just get it one time

1119
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: and I'm done.

1120
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: That's why I love watching Lauren and Jess because you

1121
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: know they thirty three, right, thirty three years old.

1122
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: They came up in the inter and oft era with

1123
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: now on the radio every day and they.

1124
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 5: See it's so crazy. I'm like, I never want to

1125
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 5: hear somebody say the radio don't matter like this. I've

1126
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 5: been on television in different markets, big markets. This changed

1127
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 5: my life, like honestly like radio. And I can't believe

1128
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 5: it when I say it, but yes, and you people

1129
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 5: get to know you personally. Yes, a lot differently than

1130
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 5: it is when you just post something on Instagram or

1131
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 5: whatever the case may be.

1132
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 4: But because you can edit that. This is this is

1133
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 4: straight like it is. Yes, it's no, it's no filter,

1134
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 4: no editing, no nothing like. This is what it is.

1135
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: And like it's as a fan, I listen to y'all

1136
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: every morning. You know what I'm saying. It's nothing else

1137
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: to listen to. I wake up. Even my daughter, She's like,

1138
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: who don't get to day to day daddy. I don't know.

1139
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: We gonna find out though.

1140
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 5: I was gonna say when I was watching the first

1141
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 5: episode with you and yoa Rule, y'all talk about the

1142
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 5: Hard Knock Life Tour, it seemed like there was like

1143
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 5: college for for him and for a lot of y'all,

1144
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 5: like the learning lessons. What was the biggest lesson you

1145
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 5: took away from the tour?

1146
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 4: The biggest lesson I took being a good performer because

1147
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 4: DMX used to go out there and destroy.

1148
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: Then you have Redman and Methan Man. Remember they used to.

1149
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: Do how High and flying through the scrip, through the crowd,

1150
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 4: and everybody on that show held.

1151
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: Their own And remember I was the new coming.

1152
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 4: It was like, damn, when I get my shot, this

1153
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 4: is how it's gonna be this high. So that right there,

1154
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: and then I remember Jay, they didn't let me smoke

1155
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 4: before the shows, like every day before the show, like

1156
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 4: two hours be high. He would come take on my

1157
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: weed and my dutches and everything like you can't smoke

1158
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 4: to after the show just to be a professional, like

1159
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 4: just to be ready and on time like and that

1160
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 4: told me if you ain't fifteen minutes early, you're fifteen

1161
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 4: minutes late.

1162
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 3: Wow, What's what's one Rockefeller artist you think never reached

1163
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: their full potential?

1164
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: Signed or unsigned?

1165
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: Both.

1166
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 4: I gotta get my guy Host to ripper them flowers.

1167
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: A lot of people probably don't even know Whopper is.

1168
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: It's from New Jersey.

1169
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 4: I'm telling you him and Beanie Segull are the only

1170
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 4: two people I ever seen touch the stage and no

1171
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 4: beat and spit a verse that no one ever heard

1172
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: and have the crowd go crazy. Now, I mean HOSTI

1173
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 4: Ripper was shutting venues down, opening up for j He

1174
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 4: was fine, Yes, he was down with us, but he

1175
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 4: just it never manufactured into an album or single or anything.

1176
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 4: And now he changed his life. Like you know, he's

1177
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 4: a big preacher. He got a church out in Jersey

1178
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 4: and all that. And I was telling my homie, Yo,

1179
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: I gotta bring him on the show Man because I

1180
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: want to know his story and I want people to

1181
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 4: appreciate and know what his contribution was to a Rockefeller

1182
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 4: because without him, I probably wouldn't be the artist I am.

1183
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: Because I remember being so jealous.

1184
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: Jay brought him out on the tour with Biggie and

1185
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 4: them and he shut it down spitting, and I'm like,

1186
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: I don't like this guy that's supposed to be me

1187
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: up there, And it's like, but then I knew I

1188
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to do that.

1189
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: Look what he's doing. You kidding me? No way.

1190
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 5: He was the opening artist on The Reasonable Reasonable Dolta.

1191
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 5: Why don't people talk about it?

1192
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: Never heard him?

1193
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, host the ripper Man. I'm telling you it was ill.

1194
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: You can look him. He got YouTube videos where he's

1195
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: shutting concert.

1196
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 4: He did the Tonnel with us one time, he did

1197
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: a couple of venues with us, and he is his

1198
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 4: pen gang.

1199
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: To me back then was like, it's the nicest kid

1200
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: I've ever seen.

1201
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 2: And what about somebody we know alright?

1202
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,959
Speaker 1: Like, who didn't PD crack?

1203
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I can see that.

1204
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 5: I'm from Delaware, so a lot of PD crack.

1205
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, p D crack. I feel like pet had a

1206
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: lot of gems. He just was in his own way,

1207
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 4: you know what I mean a lot of our artists

1208
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 4: that happened to Like I feel like at Rockefeller, when

1209
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 4: you came in, whether you had a record or not,

1210
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 4: you got to chain. He was in baseline every day.

1211
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 4: We all travel in the world. We're on tour, buses

1212
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 4: were flying, so a lot of these guys felt successful

1213
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 4: before actually being successful, so they forgot to.

1214
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: Put the work in.

1215
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 5: I felt like with PD Crack, like it was like

1216
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 5: hot so fast, and then it just stopped.

1217
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 4: Because that's what I'm saying. They was out there running

1218
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 4: around with the thirty bodies. They forgot about the work,

1219
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 4: the body of work, like you gotta go to the studio,

1220
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 4: like I think Chris said something on one of these

1221
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 4: interviews where he said they had an opportunity to go

1222
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: to the studio after a show, but they wanted to

1223
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 4: go party with right with Rihanna, so they didn't go

1224
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 4: to the studio with.

1225
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: That. I was young, Chris.

1226
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 4: I don't know who he was talking to, but I

1227
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 4: can see that happening because it's been times with Jay

1228
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 4: like Yo, hey they do this and whatever and nobody

1229
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 4: show up. We'd be sitting there like what happened?

1230
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: What?

1231
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: Oh you? Yeah, I'm saying that was me, Yo.

1232
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: Remember hearing that conversation.

1233
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 5: Do you feel like to at that point because it

1234
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 5: was now it's like once you get to like Chrisnive

1235
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 5: and Oschino and P. D Crack, there's so many different

1236
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 5: people involved versus when you're there right, Jay Z's like

1237
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 5: right there with you, like no, put the blunt down,

1238
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 5: no get only.

1239
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: At the shows. He was never there in the studio.

1240
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: That's why I don't understand where the narrative came from

1241
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: that Jay wrote for me. That's why I can't wait

1242
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 4: till the Guru interview drop. Lenny asked interview because then

1243
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 4: they gonna really hear the stories on the work and

1244
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 4: how hard it was for us to even get them

1245
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 4: to acknowledge us. Because when Beans got his deal at Rockefeller,

1246
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 4: I was the first artist. Everything was Memphis Bleak. When

1247
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 4: Beans came, it was ice cold for me. Everything was Beans,

1248
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: even in my eyes, Like they put us in the

1249
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 4: studio to even try to test to see who were

1250
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 4: gonna rock with. And that's when we did Crew Love

1251
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: You Hear Beans rhyme on there. I knew, like this

1252
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 4: guy's for not what I'm gonna do. I gotta step

1253
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 4: it up. So while the parade was running that way,

1254
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 4: Lenny was the only one who locked in with me

1255
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 4: and we went and made Coming to Age album. We

1256
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 4: did the whole album by itself. Nobody even heard it.

1257
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 4: That's why if you listen to what you think of that?

1258
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 4: Jay Verse don't even go with the song because he

1259
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 4: wasn't there with us. He was like, Yo, what song

1260
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: am I going round on it? And I'm like, put a

1261
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 4: Verse on this one? And he just put whatever he

1262
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: wanted on that on that particular song. That's why he

1263
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 4: ain't even getting the video with me, so.

1264
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: He didn't rap on his song. It was like a

1265
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: verse you already had sitting around.

1266
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he rather and he spit it on. What you

1267
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: think of that?

1268
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1269
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, Jay wasn't like we did that whole album

1270
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 4: by itself, like no input, no nothing. Now on the

1271
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 4: second album, I could see why you might think that

1272
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 4: because I got an alley oop with a record?

1273
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: Is that shit?

1274
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1275
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 4: Like that was on his London record. But it's still like, Yo, bro,

1276
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: I got a hook, I gotta beat, write a verse,

1277
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 4: We're gonna shoot a video.

1278
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: Cool. That's not you writing for me. You just gave

1279
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: me an idea, you know what I'm saying.

1280
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 5: Beanie siegu said that it was because it was it

1281
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 5: was how you said it was a three, y'all. That

1282
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 5: basically Jaz had to cheat for you because it was

1283
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 5: a three y'all, and that's where the writing came from.

1284
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 4: He just don't want to admit I shmoked him. That's

1285
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 4: that said that he must have felt I had the

1286
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 4: best verse, and he's like, the only way that could happen,

1287
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 4: Jay had to give him some balls. So I don't

1288
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 4: know if you if we all in the studio writing,

1289
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 4: how fast is Jay writing that you didn't see him

1290
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 4: write for me?

1291
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: Like it's impossible, right exactly?

1292
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 4: You didn't see him tell me, Yo, some bars and

1293
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 4: you ain't never hear reference track? Like where's the reference tracks?

1294
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: Like?

1295
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: Go leak those?

1296
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: Now, there's a lot of history, man. I would like

1297
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: to see you talk to Jim Jones.

1298
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 4: Oh and Yo, Cam ain't gonna come Cam to lit

1299
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 4: now the podcast, you know they live him and may

1300
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 4: stay up there suited and booted baby get to that

1301
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 4: chick gong so he I don't think Cam would sit down.

1302
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: It is what it is to promote rock stylad.

1303
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go up there, I go up there. I

1304
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: definitely pull up on Camp.

1305
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 4: We had a relationship, That's what I That's why I

1306
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 4: want my podcast to showcase that I have a lot

1307
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 4: of relationships with a lot of people in this business

1308
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 4: that people don't know. Like the world didn't know Sean

1309
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Speaker 4: Price was related to me. People don't know steal from

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00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 4: Smith and Wesson is my cousin, Like you don't know.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in the duck down household like I

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Speaker 1: was supposed to.

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Speaker 4: I could have been ducked down, you know what I

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00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 4: mean before Rockefeller, Like people don't know.

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Speaker 1: I went to Statn Island.

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00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 4: Know Shahim and Ghosts and all of them from Stapleton

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00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 4: before the rap gang, like Joe well Ortiz from Cooper

1318
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 4: was in a rap group with my artists living Proof

1319
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 4: as a kid. I knew him since he was probably

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Speaker 4: like ten. Like a lot of people don't know these things.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like my podcast is gonna showcase.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you couldn't be on dug Down you grimy but

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00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: not duck down grin couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I tried. I tried back in the day.

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Speaker 4: They was like, nah, you gotta gotta come up, And

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Speaker 4: ironically I made a song called come an age.

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Speaker 3: Yeah listen, bleak man, do you ever wake up sometimes?

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Speaker 3: Just be like yo, we changed the world, man.

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Speaker 1: Nah Man.

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Speaker 4: I wanted I wake up sometimes and hope I did enough.

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Speaker 4: I say that that I hope I made my mark.

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Speaker 4: I did my thing that I ain't disappoint my friends,

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Speaker 4: my family, or my fans of people that you know,

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Speaker 4: rock with me. And sometimes I wake up and don't

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00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 4: feel I did enough. Like that's why you know, I

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00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: feel like like my partner Cheech, he made it make

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Speaker 4: sense to me, Like you know, I stopped rapping. I

1338
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Speaker 4: didn't care, like I said, I left with a gold album,

1339
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 4: so rap. I didn't care like I ain't an't feel

1340
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Speaker 4: like I left anything on the table. And when me

1341
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 4: and him started working with the Warehouse movement and doing

1342
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: everything we're doing with the mind Right and all of that,

1343
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: he like, yo, bro, I was a real fan and

1344
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: you left me hanging. You didn't give me no closure.

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00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 4: You just left one and then left, Like how would

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00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 4: you think the people who really really rock and was

1347
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: rooting for you feel. You didn't give us no explanation,

1348
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 4: no exit, no nothing. And I'm like, damn, he right,

1349
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 4: And those guys are like me, we're grown now. I'm

1350
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 4: pretty sure it's hard for them to find a playlist

1351
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 4: or something to really get into. Cause me, I find

1352
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 4: myself listening to Shade now ain't really too much. I

1353
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 4: could get into. That's talking about what I live. So

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Speaker 4: that's what made me make this album. And trust me,

1355
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Speaker 4: it's for us, man, it's a doll. I don't have one.

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Speaker 1: Gun on me on this project because I don't live

1357
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: that life. It's literally for us.

1358
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Speaker 4: And I told them, if I'm gonna make music, I

1359
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Speaker 4: want to give these guys some type of gang, some

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00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: type of hope because as a teenager today, to look

1361
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 4: out a guy fifty years old still doing the same

1362
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: thing you doing today, what hope does that get?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: You got to see somebody that you would be like, yo, Okay.

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00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 4: It is like at the end of the tunnel a

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Speaker 4: person who came up like me, right, And that's what.

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Speaker 1: I want to be man.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm driving June.

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Speaker 4: Twentieth, six twenty we outside with it again called Apartment

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Speaker 4: three D, just the closure from five to thirty four.

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Speaker 1: That's the address, five to three to four, Apartment three D.

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Speaker 3: And the rock Solid podcast is available everywhere you listen

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Speaker 3: to podcasts on the Drink, Chance, Black Effect, Alright, Heeart

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Speaker 3: Radio podcast Network, Bleak.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure man.

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Speaker 3: Always glad for you in this space, Glad to hear

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Speaker 3: these stories being told.

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Speaker 1: My brother appreciate you, Laura. Nice meeting too. Wake that

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Speaker 1: ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club