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Speaker 1: Great new to the right. At the fifth, he comes

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Speaker 1: up and make a play at one hit. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: he got crushed. You've gotta be kidding. Come off the

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Speaker 1: ball with malice. Here's Paul Calvc. You know, of all

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Speaker 1: the profound and eloquent things that Darren Urban has written

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Speaker 1: over a story career, I'm trying to remember what exactly

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Speaker 1: the tweet was and how many likes is it currently at.

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Speaker 1: This is Cardinals Underground, Kyle Guard Paul Calvc, And I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious because if everything's said and written after the

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Speaker 1: short and sweet fact that most definitely resonated Darren. Pick

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Speaker 1: it up from there and give us a real time

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Speaker 1: update Paul Calvci recounting a conversation he and I had

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Speaker 1: on the team flight coming back from San Francisco. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've had a handful of tweets get some kind of

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Speaker 1: I simply tweeted, what a win for this team? I

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Speaker 1: mean it was. It's not untrue. It could be a

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Speaker 1: tweet pretty much for any team ever if they won

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Speaker 1: it was coming from my account and it ended up

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Speaker 1: But it also really underscored fan base where they were

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Speaker 1: to start the year. Well, the tweet took off, all right,

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Speaker 1: I mean that'sweet took off before we took off. It

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Speaker 1: And did Kyler Murray knight engineer two fourth quarter drives?

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Speaker 1: answer all those things? First of all, Kyler Murray was

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Speaker 1: But to me, it's not about winning a close game

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Speaker 1: They turned into a scramble, and there's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: a big deal. And that's the thing that I think

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Speaker 1: they will feed Hopkins, and I do think he's primed

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Speaker 1: for a big year. But if somebody does come along

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Speaker 1: and makes it be so Hopkins only get seven catches

433
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Speaker 1: in a game instead of fourteen, there's plenty of other

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Speaker 1: guys that can make some of those catches. And I

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Speaker 1: do think, you know, I love it every single especially

436
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Speaker 1: Fits and Hopkins, every time they're asked, we don't care

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Speaker 1: about catches. Hopkins, I could have zero catches as long

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Speaker 1: as we win the game. Fits, I just want to

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Speaker 1: win a super Bowl. You know, if they had a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks where they had one catch each in

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Speaker 1: two different games, I'm guessing they're not just sitting back

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Speaker 1: in the room saying hell but a lot as long

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Speaker 1: as we're winning. I think at some point Fits with

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Speaker 1: like a couple of catches, de Hops gonna want his catches,

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Speaker 1: and I do think they are equipped to be in

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Speaker 1: a good place to get those. And we'll see where

447
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: it goes. But again, whether it's whatever, who was guarding

448
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and however it went, now it's on tape

449
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Speaker 1: that this dude just got fourteen catches, and not that

450
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Speaker 1: everybody didn't already know the guy, but now you're on

451
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Speaker 1: high alert. Well, they're going to go to him a ton,

452
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Speaker 1: And now if you're in Washington, are you going to

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Speaker 1: put all your focus on them? And then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, does Christian Kirk go off for a hundred

455
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Speaker 1: yards this week? Or does Larry Fitzgerald make you embarrassed?

456
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Speaker 1: Or is there's so much more room for Kenyan Drake

457
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Speaker 1: that you give it to him on a couple of

458
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Speaker 1: draws with his passion us come and flight up the

459
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Speaker 1: field and Kenyan Drake breaks off twenty and twenty five

460
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Speaker 1: yard runs at a chunk. So I do think the

461
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Speaker 1: Cardinals put themselves in a good position as long as

462
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Speaker 1: you brought up Fits and de Hop in the same sense.

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Speaker 1: Is how about the play at the end of the half,

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Speaker 1: right d Hop after the game got a game ball,

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Speaker 1: But it was the ball that was ripped out of

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Speaker 1: his hands by Larry Fitzgerald and spotted right before halftime.

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00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: Kyle just the utter football IQ on that one and

468
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: the wherewithal And honestly I thought they were still going

469
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Speaker 1: to run out of time, but obviously they got the

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Speaker 1: field goal off. Yeah, that's the thing, like all the

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Speaker 1: all the Cardinals did a good job with the urgency

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Speaker 1: and they you could tell they were all lining up

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Speaker 1: and they knew what to do. But if Larry Fitzgerald

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Speaker 1: doesn't physically grab that ball and run into the center

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Speaker 1: of the field, they don't get that snap off. And

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Speaker 1: it's pretty incredible that and he does that a lot,

477
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Speaker 1: We've seen him do that several times. But the fact

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Speaker 1: that he has the wherewithal to to have that type

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Speaker 1: of football IQ and you know, they get the three

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Speaker 1: points out of it and shave the lead down to three.

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't I mean, it doesn't show up anywhere

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Speaker 1: in the box score, but such an integral play to

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Speaker 1: end the half. You know, the biggest barrier to the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals up tempo is the officials, and it just estly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we even had a stoppage in play and

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Speaker 1: the reft cracking is Mike saying no, that play is

487
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Speaker 1: null and void because the official was out of position.

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Speaker 1: And so how many times do you see the Cardinals

489
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Speaker 1: wanting to go and and there's the official standing over

490
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Speaker 1: the ball waiting for everybody. Okay, the umpire's got to

491
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Speaker 1: get behind the play. Now we know that to back

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Speaker 1: judge it. And so that's to me the biggest barrier

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Speaker 1: to the Cardinals going at the tempo they want him

494
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Speaker 1: why And I can't remember if it was the play

495
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Speaker 1: where they actually stopped down, but one of the officials

496
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Speaker 1: backpedaling towards the Cardinal sideline actually took a tumble on

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Speaker 1: his butt because he was trying to race back to

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Speaker 1: the sideline so fast and he fell down. It is

499
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Speaker 1: kind of funny, and it's not what the Cardinals are doing.

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Speaker 1: They do want up tempo, it's not always that they're

501
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Speaker 1: gonna just jump up there and snap it in seven seconds.

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Speaker 1: Our good buddy Rex Ryan on ESPN before the game.

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Speaker 1: I noticed because I heard I heard you say something

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Speaker 1: because I had watched it too. Well, he went right

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Speaker 1: back there. He went right back to the whole You know,

506
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Speaker 1: they don't run the ball enough, and you know they

507
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: don't know how to play offense. And their defense was

508
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Speaker 1: terrible last year because they could never catch their breath.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Rex, dude, I'm talking to the TV in

510
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Speaker 1: my hotel room. I'm like, guy, I watched that defense.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they appreciate the excuse there, but they were

512
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Speaker 1: not good last year because they were not good. It

513
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Speaker 1: was not because they were out of breath, and so

514
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Speaker 1: this this thing, I think, I think Cliff has a

515
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Speaker 1: better handle on what he wants to do this year.

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Speaker 1: I do think they'll no huddle a lot, which of

517
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: course no huddle and hurry up for two different things.

518
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Speaker 1: You cannot huddle and still take fifteen seconds to the

519
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Speaker 1: play clock. And I think they're going to kind of

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00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: go in and out and back and forth and kind

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Speaker 1: of see where it goes. And again, I also think

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Speaker 1: this is still a work in progress. We talk about

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Speaker 1: fits and making that play, which was incredible and it

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Speaker 1: heads up and what had ended up doing quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: especially once they got the field goal off, and it's

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Speaker 1: amazing that Zingazals makes a career high on that play.

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Speaker 1: What we're not talking about is the play earlier in

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Speaker 1: the sequence where for whatever reason, they decided to run

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Speaker 1: a quarterback draw with time running out and Kyler had

530
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Speaker 1: nowhere to go, and because he's not going to fight

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Speaker 1: for yards, he went on his butt at the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, so he wasted a snap and a play,

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Speaker 1: and then of course the play to DeAndre Hopkins that

534
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: gained him a few yards, but it also was like

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Speaker 1: right in the middle of the field to necessitate fits

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Speaker 1: habit a run over and get the ball and run

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Speaker 1: it over. So I still think there's literally little things

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Speaker 1: that Again, as Cliff said after the game, it's always

539
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Speaker 1: everybody says after a win, it's always easier to correct

540
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Speaker 1: these things after a victory that a loss. And like

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Speaker 1: Kyle was saying earlier, this thing could have turned on

542
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Speaker 1: a couple of little things and we'd be sitting here

543
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Speaker 1: not talking about this. We'd be talking about, Man, why

544
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: did they have Isaiah Simmons out there trying to cover

545
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: most are early in the game and he gets burned

546
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Speaker 1: for a touchdown that ultimately could have been the winning points.

547
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: Or you know, how does Patrick Peterson get beat on

548
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: that play in the end zone because Jimmy g drops

549
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: it over him? Or whatever we might be saying. You know,

550
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: this is this is how the narrative changes on a

551
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: week to week, just on those little things. You know,

552
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Speaker 1: as long as Darren brought it up, you know, as

553
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: soon just the mirror mention or Rex Ryan, because I

554
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: heard it myself getting ready and we're getting ready to

555
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: and I mean I'm like, I need something stronger than

556
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Speaker 1: the water in this bottle. When I heard the Rex Ryan,

557
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: it reminded me what the old line coach Sean Kogler

558
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: told us in the Big Red Rage in the offseason.

559
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: It always takes a year with the national media to

560
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: come around to the realization that that stereotype or that

561
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 1: characterization is just dead wrong. For example, we spent all

562
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Speaker 1: of last year with the national media declaring the Cardinals

563
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: old line an utter disaster in a dumpster fire, and

564
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't. The offensive line from twenty eighteen

565
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: it was a much approval. Now you're not hearing that

566
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: as much. But Sean Googler's credit, it does take that

567
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: year and already you know he still these national guys

568
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 1: viewing the I'll just call it nonsense. It's just inaccurate.

569
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: And Kyle after the game is like, somebody sent Rex

570
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Ryan the box score in one hundred eighty yards rushing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what's going on, Paul. What we

572
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: need to do is stop listening to the national pundits

573
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: and start reading the analytical minds of the NFL, because

574
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: this team is an analytical Darling. Football outsiders likes the

575
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: Cardinals a lot they were more optimistic about this team

576
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: than anybody else. They had them above five hundred on

577
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: the season when most people had the Cardinals winning six

578
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: or seven games, And at this moment, after one game,

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Speaker 1: they're giving them a fifty five percent chance of making

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00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which nobody, not analytically would would be looking

581
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: at that right now. But I think they're dead on.

582
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: The Cardinals showed a lot at the end of last season,

583
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Speaker 1: and then they had a lot of money because Kyler

584
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: Murray's on a rookie d and then they reinforced a

585
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: lot of things defensively. They got DeAndre Hopkins. There's a

586
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: lot of reasons to be excited about this team, and

587
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, narrative or not, if you look at the

588
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: team and you look at the numbers, I just think

589
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: they're really ascending and you look at this three year

590
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: window now for this team, it's exciting, all right. So Kyle,

591
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: right back at it. We're talking about this defense right now.

592
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: Just give us some thoughts on it and how improved

593
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: was it to you? And I don't you know, like

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00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: football outsiders, is that one of the big reasons they're

595
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: bullish and the Cardinals because of them, proved defense. Yeah,

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00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they basically feel like if you're if

597
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: you take a big step back or a big step

598
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: forward in a season, you're gonna come back and regress

599
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: toward the me and the next season. So the Cardinals

600
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: were so bad last year that you don't really project

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00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: them to be last in total defense because they had

602
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: some success in the previous seasons and you've got guys

603
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: like Chandler Jones and Buddha Baker and Patrick Peterson who

604
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: have been a part of those teams. So they thought

605
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: that the Cardinals weren't going to be a as bad

606
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: as people thought defensively, and yeah, it's I mean, it

607
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: turned out where Devondre Campbell I think, had a nice game,

608
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: and it just they just don't have these glaring holes

609
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 1: on defense anymore. The defensive line looks stronger and deeper,

610
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: and the inside linebackers played solid. Besides, you know, Isaiah

611
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: Simmons had his issues, but having Hassan Reddick and Devon

612
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: Kinnard playing that that outside linebacker spot and being able

613
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: to drop in coverage and b versatile Byron Murphy playing

614
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: better this season in his second year. I mean, they

615
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: just have a lot of good pieces at good ages

616
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of depth, and I think I think

617
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: the defense is going to be much better. And before

618
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: the season started, that's what we were questioning. I liked

619
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: the offense a lot, I wasn't sure about the defense,

620
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: But after this first game, I'm pretty bullish on the

621
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: defense too. I mean, those that defensive line room right now.

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Speaker 1: We didn't call Coy's Corey Peter's name a lot. Jordan

623
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Speaker 1: Phillips Dion have his name called a lot. I'm sure

624
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: they're great out and they had fine games, but we're

625
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: not concerned about those guys. They're establishing they're pretty proven

626
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: and Jordan Phillips maybe not as much, least based on

627
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: his STELLO numbers from last year. But the fact that A.

628
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: Zach Allen had a sack and a tackle for loss.

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Speaker 1: And then we gave out game balls Monday morning, and

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00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, we gotta give a game

631
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: ball to Bill O'Brien or go ahead, and you know,

632
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: letting go of a guy, and I, you know, I

633
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: strung it along. And you think we're talking about DeAndre

634
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: I haven't. Well no, I'm talking talking about Angela Blackson.

635
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm giving him a game ball for Angelo Blackson, a

636
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: guy who started thirty one games combined the last two years,

637
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: and U just a surprise cut at the very end.

638
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: Cardin will say, great, we'll put Michael Dogby on the

639
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: practice squad after he clears Waivers and Angelo Blackson boom

640
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: right into the rotation. So if you have that kind

641
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: of depth, we know how valuable that is, Darren. And

642
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: it did look like a revamped defense. I asked Cliff

643
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Speaker 1: Kingsbury and his TV show, so what do you think

644
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons learned in his first game? And his answer was, well,

645
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna test you. They're gonna make you prove it

646
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: that you belong out there, that you can handle it.

647
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: So credit the forty nine ers for picking on the rookie.

648
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: You could a tribute maybe fourteen points to Isaiah Simmons.

649
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: And you know, and so without Isaiah Simmons, the rookie

650
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: being exploited, without any preseason it does make me wonder, wow,

651
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: how good would the defensive performance had been. First of all,

652
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: before we get too far away from the Texans gift

653
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: basket cornucopia of gift baskets going, and not only do

654
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: they have Angelo Blackson and DeAndre Hopkins, but they also

655
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: have a tight end that they got from the Texans.

656
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas, he's on the practice squad right now, but

657
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: he's been on the He's been protected both the first

658
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: two weeks. And you can protect certain guys off the

659
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: practice squad because they don't want to lose them. So

660
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: there's a third Texan potentially that they got rid of.

661
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: When it comes to Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, I mean I

662
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: think look all we heard every time we wanted to

663
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: hype him a little bit and training camp and Vance

664
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: Joseph talked about him. Vance Joseph was ultimate humped the

665
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: brakes and you could interpret that one of two ways.

666
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: One of them was he's dominating. He's going to come

667
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: out and he's going to be rookie the year material

668
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: as soon as it starts, and they just want to

669
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: not talk about a quick story. Back in two thousand

670
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: and three, when an Kuon Bolden was a rookie and

671
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: a certain assistant coach for the Cardinals, it was offensive

672
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: coordinator named Jerry Sullivan. Perhaps that name rings a bell.

673
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: I was going to interview him on I was in

674
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: even Friday before the season open Detroit. I sat next

675
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: to him, and I said, so when I was asking

676
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: about a handful of guys in the offense, and I said, so,

677
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: what about Bolden? Like he's played like four snaps in

678
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: the preseason, Like is he hurt? What's the deal? And

679
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes, luck, he goes. I'm telling you

680
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: right now, this kid is going to take the league

681
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: by storm this year. We knew that. We knew that

682
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: from the first day walked in. We didn't want to

683
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: put him out of the field because I didn't want

684
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: anybody else to know it either. And then of course

685
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 1: two days later it goes to Detroit ten catches two

686
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen yards two touchdowns and automatically became the

687
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: Anka Bowl and everybody knew right away. So there was

688
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: always that possibility with Isaiah Simmons. Maybe they just weren't like, hey,

689
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: this kid's going to rip it up, and Vance Joseph

690
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: is saying pump the brakes because or or Isaiah when

691
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph said, he's picking it all up in the meetings,

692
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: but when you get on the field, it's a whole

693
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: different thing, and he looks, Okay, Maybe Vance Joseph was

694
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: telling the truth and it feels like after that first game,

695
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph was telling the truth and I know fans

696
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: are There's a lot that goes there's a lot to

697
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: unpack with Isaiah Simmons. I think Paul and Kyle. Because

698
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: he's a top ten pick, people are concerned. He's a

699
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: guy that some people were wondering what his position was

700
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: going to be, and so some fans are concerned. And

701
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: now he's going to play inside linebacker in a role

702
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: that you just for the past two and a half

703
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: years you saw them try to use another first round

704
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: pick and shoehorn him in there and it didn't work,

705
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: and so fans are really panicked that it's going to

706
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: be a son Reddick the second and all I can

707
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: say is what can we can we get a little

708
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: bit of elbow room here. I mean, they went through

709
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: no they had no offseason, they had no preseason games,

710
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: they didn't do a whole lot in training camp. This

711
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: was essentially test runs for him, and unfortunately it counts.

712
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: And you know, I think you really saw it on

713
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: the Mostard play and it was funny that happened. And

714
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: I remember seeing that early in camp, same thing they

715
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: were running. They were running routes on air and he

716
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: was covering somebody off the line of scrimmage. I can't remember.

717
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: It was a tight end or a running back, and

718
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: he got roasted. I think it was a tight end,

719
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: but it was a tight end that I don't think

720
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: it was Dan Arnold. It might it was one of

721
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: their other guys that you would think, Okay, Isaiah Simmons,

722
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: first round pick, he should be able to take this guy,

723
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: and he just got burned bad. And he was trailing

724
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: by four yards on this play before the tight end

725
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: got the catch. And again that was early in camp.

726
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: Things happened, but he's gonna have to learn these things

727
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: and you've got to be willing to let him grow.

728
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: And again it's I think it's just a big plus

729
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: that they were able to win a game in which

730
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: he made a mistake. Maybe too, I'm not sure exactly

731
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: what happened on that bust coverage on the other touchdown,

732
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: but I you look at he's a specimen. He absolutely

733
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: can run. Once he figures some of those mental things out,

734
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. I think he's gonna

735
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: work in the spot that they're having him. I mean,

736
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: the one thing I'm worried about Kyle. Now is the

737
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: way that first game went. Do you have enough money

738
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: to possibly keep Devondre Campbell around here next year and

739
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: have a three linebacker corp of Divondre Campbell and Isaiah

740
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: Simmons and Jordan Hicks, because I liked what Dabondre Campbell

741
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: did and I think that group would be nice to

742
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: have if it was humanly possible. It's interesting that they

743
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: basically went to a four three defense in this game,

744
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: and I'd assume it's because it was the forty nine

745
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: ers because they like running base defenses and have a

746
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: fullback and more of that traditional set. So we'll see

747
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: how it goes. But yeah, I mean going back to Isaiah,

748
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: that's that's the concern. Is Kenny gard people in space.

749
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's such a big dude. He's obviously got

750
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: the top end speed. Like next Gen Stats did the

751
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: speed of raheem Mos dirt and it was like twenty

752
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: three miles an hour, the fastest runner in the last

753
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: three or four years, and then Isaiah Simmons was like

754
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: twenty one and a half miles an hour, which is

755
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: an insane number for a linebacker. So when he's I

756
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: mean he couldn't catch him because Raheem's was so fast.

757
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: But I mean any tight end he's gonna catch in

758
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: that scenario. So when he gets to his top end speed,

759
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: we know he has the speed to get there, but

760
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: how does he handle that change of direction and an

761
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: angle route? He didn't handle it was that mentally, was

762
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: that physically he couldn't change direction fast enough. That's my

763
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: question markin moving forward is is how he can do

764
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: in coverage, because that's the key I think to Isaiah

765
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: Simmons is covering tight ends, covering running backs out of

766
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: the backfield. He has to be able to do that

767
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: in order to be this dynamic piece. That's interesting on

768
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: the miles pour just because historically the real burners in

769
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: the league are twenty one to twenty two miles pur

770
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: I mean the JJ Nelson's, the John Browns. Over the years,

771
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: those guys have been and so to be a twenty

772
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: three miles per hour that is elite. There's there's no

773
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: question about that. I will say this, Darren, to your

774
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: point about some of the Cardinals fans, maybe you're getting

775
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: a little fired up and they're seeing, you know, the

776
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: reincarnation of Hassan Reddick in some ways. I did text

777
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: a guy, former first round pick who played a decade

778
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: in the league at the same position, and here's what

779
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: he said. I'm just gonna read you some of what

780
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: he texted me. You gotta remember, Paul, that this was

781
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: his first game basing live bullets. Rookies need preseason games

782
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: more than anyone to get acclimated to the speed of

783
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: the game. This ain't the acc He'll be fine, but

784
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: he does need to hone his technique at that position.

785
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: He also spent the majority of his snaps last year

786
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: at safety and slot corner. I don't know if that's

787
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: totally accurate. Mean, I know he played five one hundred

788
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: snats or more at five different positions. I mean he

789
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: probably played wildcat quarterback and he was Vendor beer vendor

790
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: as well at Clemson for all we know. So, yeah,

791
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: he's got to get in to the inside linebacker spot

792
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of it. And Larry Foot used to

793
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: talk about this, guys, it's the eyes, and I meantimes

794
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: that we've seen it. So if your eyes in the

795
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: backfield and the running back gets past you like moster,

796
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: or if your eyes and could you have picked a

797
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: tougher opponent or offense than mister I Candy himself, Kyle Shanahan.

798
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean, talking to some of the defensive coaches before

799
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: the game, they're like, eighty five percent of the place

800
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna run will involve some sort of shift motion misdirection.

801
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: The play itself is old school, out of the West

802
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: Coast offense. It goes all the way back to his dad.

803
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: But everything he does and dresses it up with a

804
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: personnel packages and all the craziness. It was sort of

805
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: a perfect storm for a rookie you'd never been in

806
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: an NFL game before, to try and to cipher and

807
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: determine and read and react play fast because, as Rob

808
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: Frederickson said at halftime on the radio broadcast, you know

809
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: that one false step in the wrong direction and in

810
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: this league you're done. In college, you can recover. But

811
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: if there's one false move step in the wrong direction.

812
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, as sound Reddick learned that the hard way

813
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: for four years at inside linebacker. Yeah, I mean, the

814
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: false step is what really And it's funny. The last

815
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: time Isaiah talked to us, I forget somebody asked the

816
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: question that it might have been me for all I know,

817
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: but talking about making those mistakes and having it and

818
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: he was the one who brought up false steps, and

819
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, he still had some false steps he was making.

820
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: Now he was saying at the time, I feel like

821
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: I've got the athleticism to make up for those false steps.

822
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: But as you pointed out, I mean he just he

823
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: bit hard. He took that one hard false step to

824
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: the outside moster went inside, and then there was just

825
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: no making up for it. As Kyle pointed out, with

826
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: all his beautiful miles per hour numbers, you know that's

827
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: that's just not going to happen. Now. There will be

828
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: some guys he covers well, you know, it might be

829
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: a certain tight end where he might be able to

830
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: take a false step and recover depending on who it is.

831
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: But it wasn't going to be on that play against

832
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: that guy. And that's the thing. It's it's exactly what

833
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: we were talking about going into it, and we were

834
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: talking about Isaiah Simmons in particular. You don't want to

835
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: put him in position where one play cost them a game.

836
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: And I know you talked about it Paul on the air.

837
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: It's what I thought it happened. It was early I'm

838
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: thinking okay, but especially when he combined it with all

839
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: the slow start to the offense and the Cardinals, I

840
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: started thinking, holy crap, that might cost them the game.

841
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: That one play justin but told us, by the way,

842
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: in the big red rage, you guys aren't talking enough

843
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: about Davondre Campbell. So to come full circle on the

844
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: linebacker spot, that was a really nice game. And there

845
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: was even I think it was Tevin Coleman that on

846
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: a wheel route he was step down the sideline Kyle.

847
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: And then you have a Devondre Campbell obviously was instrumental

848
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: in the fourth and goal stop him and Devon Kennard.

849
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: So you have a guy who can run, you have

850
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: a guy who can play stout in the box. You

851
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: have a guy that you know, just the stature of

852
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: him at six to four. I mean, we talk about

853
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons and the measurables. Vandre Campbell he is a site.

854
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he is definitely a specimen. So there is

855
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: a huge upside and you look at I looked at

856
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: some of his games against the nine. For example, the

857
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: Falcons beat the Niners last season, he had an unbelievable game.

858
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: He had a Lemon tackles. He was all over the field,

859
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: so he's equipped. I don't know if he's especially equipped

860
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: for that team that runs that sort of offense, But

861
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: to me, if you're gonna get a Washington team that

862
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: comes in and they're gonna play more of a hard nosed,

863
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: power run game, I think he's just as equipped a

864
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: battle against that sort of offense. I think he I mean,

865
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: he's what you want Isaiah Simmons to be in Isaiah

866
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: Simmons has more athletic talent, so his upside is higher.

867
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: But the that Devondre Campbell can be in the box

868
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: and stop the run like you mentioned on that fourth

869
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: and goal where Devon Kannard made the play to stop

870
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: the guy, but most probably has his momentum getting into

871
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: the end zone if Campbell doesn't come up and help out.

872
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: So being able to stop the run and then the

873
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: coverage is the most important thing in the NFL, and

874
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: these running backs and these tight ends, as we saw Sunday,

875
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: can really hurt you. And the Cardinals have that guy

876
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: now where they did not last year. They had nobody

877
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: in their inside linebacker crew that could stay with tight

878
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: ends and then so they tried to put it on

879
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: the safeties and then Buddha Baker can't really do as

880
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: much that they want him to do because he's got

881
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: to play a tight end in certain situations. And now

882
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: having Campbell, I think it just really makes the entire

883
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: defense better because he's a versatile piece and you know,

884
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: he can do a lot of those things. I agree

885
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: with Justin Pugh. He's he's an underrated player from that

886
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: first game where he fixes a lot of holes that

887
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: you had last year, and Isaiah Simmons might be that

888
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: guy moving forward, but in twenty twenty, right now, as

889
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: I say, the Simmons learns, it's great having Devondre Campbell

890
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: as that insurance. You know, the other question on that defense,

891
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: Drake Kirkpatrick and I just didn't know what to think

892
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: after the game because with the Niners lack of receiving options,

893
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: didn't seem like he was tested too much. Cliff Kingsbury

894
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: did tell us on his TV show Game Plan that

895
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: he tested out well, he grated out well on the film.

896
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: He likes the energy, said he's a real asset in

897
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: that regard to the defense. But Darren, do you think

898
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: pat p and Kirkpatrick get tested a little more this

899
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: week against Washington. That's hard to say. I do. I'm

900
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: given the injuries and stuff. I do like Washington's receiving

901
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: corps a little bit better. I mean, I think Dwayne

902
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: Haskins is still a work in progress. And even though

903
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Washington won against the Eagles, they didn't do anything super spectacular.

904
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: There were some turnovers involved there for the Eagles. I

905
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: think the longest scoring drive for the I almost said

906
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: it for Washington was like forty eight yards. So it's

907
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: not like they were explosive offensively, you know. Even looking

908
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: at what the Cardinals were doing, I mean, essentially, if

909
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: they weren't in Nickel, Byron Murphy was the number two

910
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: cornerback most of the time, if I noticed correctly, if

911
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: they went to three cornerbacks, okay, then you have Kirkpatrick

912
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: on the outside. You were able to have Murphy playing slot.

913
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: But if they only had two cornerbacks, they're still trusting

914
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: Byron out there. It looked like and I do think that,

915
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: I do think that part of that is Kirkpatrick being

916
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: so new to things. But at some point they are

917
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: going to play teams in this division, especially with Seattle

918
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: and the Rams, where they're gonna need all three of

919
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: those cornerbacks playing a ton of snaps at a high level,

920
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: especially if Seattle is going to decide to let freaking

921
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson throw, which they really should have been doing

922
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: the last few years and they just weren't. So I mean,

923
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: that's something that this defense is going to need, and

924
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna need Kirkpatrick. I thought he was fine. I

925
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: didn't really notice him one way or the other, to

926
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: be honest, But that's okay because I thought defensively, except

927
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: for the one drive, I'm not even gonna count the

928
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: Simmons getting blown the one the drive where they took

929
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: the lead in the fourth quarter where the Cardinals finally

930
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: took the lead and then you let them come right

931
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 1: down and score the other way. That was a little

932
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: disappointing because you want to be able to answer as

933
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: a defense. But other than that, I felt like, overall,

934
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: whatever they did, however they did it, whatever warts might

935
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: be there, I really liked how this defense played out

936
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: on all three levels. By the way, the big play

937
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: on that drive to use check, you know, the forty

938
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: one yarder that was a pass factor, just to let

939
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: you know. So if I don't know how they graded

940
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: out the film, but they need to put pass factor

941
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: down on that one because what Dave said, there were

942
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: no big plays recently, Boom, all of a sudden, they

943
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: had a big play that was and it was funny

944
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: because that was the one I thought Hassan Reddick played

945
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: pretty darn well as an outside linebacker in this game.

946
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: That was the one play that I'm like because he

947
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: got caught. I think he was in coverage there, But

948
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: overall I thought I thought for sure that I thought

949
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: Reddick had a good game and he was another guy

950
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: when we started talking about Campbell. I don't know what

951
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: they were gonna do with Simmons originally. I don't know

952
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: if it was always going to be about nineteen or

953
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: twenty snaps whatever he did. I don't know if they

954
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: pulled it back when he was struggling and a Sign

955
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: ended up playing more but a Sign Reddick played almost

956
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: as many snaps as Devon Canard, and again, other than

957
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: that one play, I thought he played pretty well. He

958
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: wasn't the game plan. I'd love to know that too,

959
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: to what degree? And then did it change during the

960
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: course of the game based on Isaiah Simmons because they

961
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: were targeting Isaiah Simmons, the rookie. But I did talk

962
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: to a few people before the game. They said, no,

963
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: you guys are going to be calling his sign Reddick's

964
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: name today. So he was part of the game plan

965
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: to what degree, I'm not exactly certain. Kyle, when Justin

966
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: Pugh was talking to the media on Tuesday, and I

967
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: just love Pugh's insight, and he's the guy who could

968
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: walk into a media gig and a sports radio gig

969
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: upon retirement. He he's so well equipped for it. Give

970
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: me some of what he told them me, because it

971
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: wasn't he for starters, wasn't he very high and didn't

972
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: give a lot of prompts to Lamont Guilliard and filling

973
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: in for Mason Cole. Yeah, I think he called him

974
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: the MVP of the game for doing that. And it's

975
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: definitely a position where there's a lot on your plate

976
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: and you're getting thrown into the fire like that. Not

977
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: only do you have to snap the ball and protect,

978
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: but you're trying to identify the mic linebacker to help

979
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: out Kyler and see what kind of coverage the other

980
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: team is in. So it was a tough spot. Luckily,

981
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: Lamont Guilliard had a lot of college experience coming into

982
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: this game, So even though he didn't play last year,

983
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: he'd been on the field quite a bit, and people

984
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: have talked about his mental intelligence and ability to diagnose,

985
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: so I think it was a big spot for him,

986
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: and he played well, and I thought the offensive line

987
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: overall did a really nice job. Kyler Murray was sacked twice.

988
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: In one, like you mentioned earlier, Paul, was the rollout

989
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: where he should have just thrown that ball away and

990
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: he waited and he got sacked. And then the other

991
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: one was he had a clean pocket, he jutted forward

992
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: and he slid a yard behind the line of scrimmage,

993
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: so they gave the sack to the nearest forty nine

994
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: ers defender. But it wasn't an offensive line issue. So

995
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: I think there were there were plays clearly when Nick

996
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: Bosa and other guys got pressured on Kyler Murray, and

997
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: that stuff needs to be cleaned up. But it did

998
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: not feel like Kyler Murray was under durest consistently. And

999
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: there were some games last year Carolina comes to mind,

1000
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: when he just he looked a little bit scared about

1001
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: where the pass rush was coming from. And I did

1002
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: not see that in this game and going against the Niners,

1003
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: that's huge because that's one of the best pass rushers

1004
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL. The Cardinals handled it pretty well. I

1005
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: think Cliff Kingsbury's scheme handled it well where he got

1006
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: the ball out pretty quickly a lot of times. But

1007
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: the Cardinals just have a I think they have a

1008
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: nice kind of formula going where you are facing a

1009
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: Washington team that has easy, elite pass rushers, like you

1010
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: said earlier, Paul, but the Cardinals have the right type

1011
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: of offense to combat that if they're executing. Yeah, if

1012
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: there's one game you want before the Washington game, it

1013
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: would be against the Niners. Wouldn't considering everything that Washington

1014
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: has upfront with all those first round d tackles and

1015
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: then Chase Young and Ryan Carrigan with one hundred career sacks.

1016
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: To me, it makes me feel a lot better because

1017
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: we all know what happens when you don't have a

1018
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: stout offensive line. Just look at what happened to the Eagles.

1019
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: They squandered that seventeen nothing lead. They had two guys

1020
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: in for two Pro Bowlers, an offensive line who had

1021
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: basically never played in an NFL game, and it was

1022
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: an utter disaster as Carson Wentz, who's pretty dang mobile

1023
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: was sacked eight times. So that makes me feel a

1024
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: lot better. And think about the challenge for Lamont Guilliard.

1025
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: You know, you come in your first regular season NFL

1026
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: action and you're looking across first rounders like Solomon Thomas

1027
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: and Eric Armstead and Javon kim Law. Think think of

1028
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: all those guys that you know you have to deal with,

1029
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: is their interior d line? So hopefully that makes you bullish.

1030
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: And you're talking about Lamon Guiliard, a guy who started

1031
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: what four years of Georgia, right, wasn't you a four

1032
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: year starter at Georgia going against SEC competition? I think

1033
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: he was. And I do think they like Lamar Galliard

1034
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: a lot, and they like Mason Cole a lot. And

1035
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see where the the injuries are.

1036
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: But it's fun. I do think the line played as

1037
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 1: a as a group very well. But that great equalizer,

1038
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: which is Kyler Murray's legs and his ability to get around,

1039
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: move around and make the right decisions, as we talked

1040
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: about earlier, that's always going to make your offensive line

1041
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: a little bit better. I mean, I can't imagine being

1042
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz is not immobile, but he's not Kyler

1043
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: Murray either, and it's going to be interesting to see

1044
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: this dynamic. There's a reason why. I mean, I think

1045
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes he's not a runner the same way too,

1046
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: but he's pretty mobile. We know Lamar Jackson. There's a

1047
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: reason why these certain quarterbacks are starting to rise in

1048
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: the NFL above all the other ones. And that aspect

1049
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: of the game is just it just changes everything. Just

1050
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: in the division. There's a big divide right now. Have

1051
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: and have not either have the future of football at

1052
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: quarterback or you don't. You're Kyle Shannon. You have Jimmy

1053
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: g whose numbers if you look at the playoffs and

1054
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: then his numbers against the Cardinals, and then there's Jared

1055
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: Goff and Sean McVay obviously is very creative and innovative

1056
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: and they do their best, but they do not have

1057
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks or rams and niners with the athletic ability and

1058
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: the escapability of a Kyler Murray. And it's why Dan

1059
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: Roloski said on Monday morning, I found this interesting. He

1060
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,959
Speaker 1: said on ESPN that Kyler Murray is a top five

1061
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: quarterback already when it comes to quarterbacks, the defensive coordinators

1062
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: hate to gain plan against. And I brought that up

1063
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: to Cliff Kingsbury and he said, well, doesn't that make

1064
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: him a top five quarterback? Period? You know, that's pretty

1065
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: much the only the only memory stick, right. He wanted

1066
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: to know, well, what's the distinction? You know it's I'm like,

1067
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I just thought it was an

1068
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: interesting because we saw Kyler Murray in Tier three. It's

1069
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: some of the offseason quarterback rankings, did we not Kyle? Right?

1070
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: Weren't there analytics that had him in Tier three? Yeah?

1071
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: I mean the Pro Football Focus put him at like

1072
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: twenty seventh to horl and then one of their rankings,

1073
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: which yeah, I don't. I don't know what you're watching

1074
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: if that's the case. I mean, he finished number fifteen

1075
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: in total QBR last season as a rookie. Who a

1076
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: rookie that was kind of winging it? Who said it himself?

1077
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: So I agree. I mean, whether you want to parse

1078
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: whether defensive coordinators call him top five to defend or

1079
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: top five overall, if he finished his top five in

1080
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: total QBR, that would not surprise me. He didn't play

1081
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: a great game against one of the best defenses in

1082
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: the NFL on Sunday, and he's still finished number five

1083
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: in total QBR, behind Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Aaron Rodgers,

1084
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson. And I think he's more in that

1085
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: tier than he is in that second or third tier

1086
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: because of what he can do with his legs, because

1087
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: of the arm talent, and last year the Cardinal's personnel

1088
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: wise just did not compare to they have now, and

1089
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: the defense does did not compare to what they have now.

1090
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: It's it's always a little bit worrisome to try to

1091
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: crown somebody after seventeen starts in the NFL. But I mean,

1092
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 1: everything I see, I just I'm just so optimistic about

1093
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: what he can do because of the talent you see,

1094
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: with what Kingsbury is bringing to the table schematically, I

1095
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: just think there's all these reasons to feel like you

1096
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: can really believe in Kyler Murray and the future of

1097
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: himself and the Cardinals. Wait, wait, did you just say

1098
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: you want to crown somebody? Kyle, If you want to

1099
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: crown him, then cry. I automatically flinch because I was

1100
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: the guy behind the door edge of the postgame radio

1101
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: interview after the tirade by I cannot hear that anymore

1102
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: the rest of my life without just flashing back. I'm

1103
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: I would have a seizure when I hear that. So

1104
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: the next two games at home, Darren, paint us a

1105
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: picture for those media members and those few who will

1106
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: be in attendance of State Farm Stadium what they can

1107
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: expect here in the twenty twenty home experience. What exactly

1108
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: is that going to mean? For Kyle is going to

1109
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, you know what am I walking into here?

1110
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: I mean, look, the bottom line is, you know, I'm

1111
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: sure it'll be a lot like what we saw in

1112
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Paul, which is a relatively empty press box,

1113
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: certainly not anybody in the stands, at least at State

1114
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: Farm Stadium in most places. Obviously, there are a couple

1115
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: of teams around the league that had a few fans

1116
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: at their games, but that's not going to be the

1117
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals the next two home games at least, and it's

1118
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna take some getting used to. And I even though

1119
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: the players have already played a game, Paul, I do

1120
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: think walking into that stadium, well, there's kind of two

1121
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: sides to it. I think there is going to be

1122
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: now that we're to the regular season, and even though

1123
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: they already played a game in San Francisco, I do

1124
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: think there's going to be a transition for the players themselves,

1125
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: the Cardinals themselves walking into that stadium without a crowd.

1126
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: That being said, we did just spend a month there

1127
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: or so for training camp, and they were in there

1128
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: every day and they were playing crowd noise and air quotes,

1129
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: and they did go through a red and white practice

1130
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: with the player introductions and the music really loud and

1131
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: blowing everything out and and trying to get some energy

1132
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: before the game, so they know kind of what it's

1133
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: gonna be like in terms of that. But I do

1134
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: think that ultimately, once the game starts and a lot

1135
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: of the players are saying this, I think you your

1136
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: instincts kicked back into just playing football. There's gonna be

1137
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: a couple of moments where you're gonna be on the

1138
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: sidelines wishing there was somebody giving you emotion and energy.

1139
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: But I think on the field itself, I think I

1140
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: think these guys are programmed to it's not gonna matter

1141
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: whether there's there's a crowd or not. And the one

1142
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 1: thing I do think of Paul Is all those times

1143
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: over the years. Not every player says it, because most

1144
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: of them are smart enough to realize that, yeah, they

1145
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: still want to get paid to get played. But how

1146
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: many players over the years have said they don't even

1147
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: need to play me pay me to play. Or Patrick

1148
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: Peterson a couple of weeks ago, it doesn't matter if

1149
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: we go playing a parking lot. Well, you're not gonna

1150
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: be in a parking lot. It's gonna sound a little

1151
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: bit like a parking lot, like you're playing a game. Okay,

1152
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: now now you actually get the chance to see what

1153
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: that's like. I don't know if you really wanted it

1154
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: to be that way, but now you're gonna get to

1155
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: see it. I had the broadcast headset on during the

1156
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: course of the game. The crowd noise that was pumped

1157
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: into Levi Stadium did not seem that loud, not at all.

1158
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: And I've had a lot of people it's funny. I

1159
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: had to multiple people reach out to me. People I know.

1160
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: My mom was one actually that was complaining that when

1161
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: she was watching it on TV, and somebody else said

1162
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: this too, that it was actually so loud it was

1163
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: making it hard to hear the announcers, and I'm like

1164
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: that made me. I thought that was a little weird,

1165
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,479
Speaker 1: and I was wondering if that's Fox itself pumping something

1166
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: in through the TV channel, because that's not what we

1167
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: are hearing at the game at all exactly. I thought

1168
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: the Monday night broadcast was brutal. This second game, the

1169
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: Texans are on the Texans, the Tennessee game, it was

1170
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: I had a struggle to hear the announcer because the

1171
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: crowd noise, the fabricated full crowd noise. Then well they

1172
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: had they had real people there though, Paul, that was

1173
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: all that was those fifty family members or whatever. I

1174
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: just I honestly, I hit the mute. It was given

1175
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: me a headache. So like what Kyle Shannon said before

1176
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: the game, and maybe Kyle Shannon had something to do

1177
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: with Lea by say him. He said, it's not necessarily

1178
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: the volume of the noise, it's the constant noise. If

1179
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: they're just gonna be running the noise for three hours straight,

1180
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a splitting headache. So maybe Kyle Shannon

1181
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: had something to do with that. And maybe it's gonna

1182
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: be different Kyle, because for a lot of Cardinals camp,

1183
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: they were running constant white noise basically, So how did

1184
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: they do that? There? Did did they pump it up

1185
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: like during third downs and when the when the Cardinals

1186
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: had the ball or had they It didn't And I'm

1187
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: just getting I'm getting a text from our good friend

1188
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: jim O Mahundro, who normally, if we're in the studio

1189
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: would be able to pipe in himself, but obviously through

1190
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: his zoom it's not going to happen. He did clarify

1191
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: that what you're hearing on the TV broadcast is different

1192
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: than what they're hearing in the stadium, So that's that

1193
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: kind of clear out of No, it didn't. It did

1194
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: not feel There was a couple times when the forty

1195
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: nine ers had the ball and it felt like they

1196
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: turned it way down, Like I don't know if the

1197
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: home team has the option to like, okay, because it's

1198
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: the home team, you get a little bit more quiet.

1199
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: It felt that way to me, but I'll be honest,

1200
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: when the Cardinals had the ball, it never felt so

1201
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: loud that I felt like there was any kind of problem.

1202
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: And I think ultimately that's what's gonna play into this.

1203
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what other than not having to

1204
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 1: actually take the plane to wherever you're going. I don't

1205
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: know what kind of home field advantage there's really going

1206
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: to be. And we've seen this a little bit in

1207
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: the NBA bubble with you know, no fans and everything

1208
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: like that, and I feel like it's even the playing

1209
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: field a little bit. And I think there's a real

1210
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: chance that there's gonna be some of that this year.

1211
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I still think ultimately the better team is

1212
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: gonna win most of the time, and there's still teams

1213
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: that are better than the others. But you're not gonna have,

1214
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: as to Paul's point one way or the other, where

1215
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, the Cardinals going to Seattle and drawing on

1216
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: that fan base or go going to Kansas City and

1217
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: how I mean Kansas City is gonna roll over teams

1218
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: because they're the Chiefs and they're really good. But you're

1219
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: not going to have the crowd part of it playing

1220
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: a big role. And what I'm wondering a little bit

1221
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: is does that impact the officials at all? Who you know,

1222
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: they're human beings too. Do they throw or not throw

1223
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: a flag now because there's no crowd to be upset

1224
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: or not be upset, whereas opposed to maybe before. That's

1225
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: something that has crossed my mind. We'll just be happy

1226
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: if they stay on their feet at this point, you know,

1227
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: honestly some of the officials look. Gordan Hicks shared this

1228
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: with the media last week that Cliff Kingsbury told the

1229
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: team there is no such thing as home field bandage.

1230
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: For the most part. You're going in. It's man against man,

1231
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: it's team against team, and that was his message going

1232
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: against the Niners. So we'll see what it's all about.

1233
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: A state from stadium and how different and Mayor man

1234
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: appe I don't. I do agree that it was very

1235
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: quiet at times, Aaron, which makes you wonder was Peyton

1236
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: Manning running the volume? Was he running round noise? Because

1237
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: we all know Peyton Manning and you know Payton Manning

1238
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: at work and you get all those Broncos fans he'd

1239
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: be like this and you didn't know was he playing

1240
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: quarterback or was he putting on the eighteenth green for

1241
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: some golf championship. You know, I might as well be

1242
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: like a course Marshall with a quiet police sign up there.

1243
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: It was. It was unbelievable how quiet those Broncos fans

1244
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: would get when Peyton Manning was at work. So we'll

1245
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: see exactly what's going to happen this week for the

1246
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals at home, because I got two in a row,

1247
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: Washington and then the Lions, and dare I say, Kyle an,

1248
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: oh boy, you know you got a chance here, do

1249
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: you not? I mean, you gotta you gotta make room

1250
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: on the bandwagon if all of a sudden the schedule

1251
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: shapes up favorably here the next two weeks and you

1252
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: know the next two after that? Right justin Panthers art

1253
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: what is it? Panthers and Jets? Wow? Yeah, you I

1254
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: tweeted that that you look at the Cardinals next four games,

1255
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: like you said, Washington, Detroit, Caroline in the New York Jets,

1256
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: and you have a real chance to start fast. And

1257
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: then I got like seventeen replies saying let's take it

1258
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: one week at a time. And I'm not playing, so

1259
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about that. I don't have to

1260
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: focus on this game. I'm actually not gonna be on

1261
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: the field if I don't know, if that shocks anybody,

1262
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm not trying out the Kyle would the seventeen replies

1263
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: where they all Cliff Kingsbury Burner accounts, I mean, all

1264
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: the fans are unhappy that I'm talking about it, and

1265
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: anytime I say anything, if people will be like, oh,

1266
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: you don't jinx us, It's like I'm trying to tell

1267
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: you what's going on. But I think, I mean, it's

1268
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: it's a nice set up for the Cardinals, and you're

1269
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: they're a better team than Washington and I think Detroit's

1270
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: a solid team, but you're at home for that one.

1271
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: And I think the Cardinals are more talented than the

1272
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: Panthers and the Jets, so it's hard to win five

1273
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: straight games. And if they start five and oh, you know,

1274
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: people will obviously be over the moon. But it certainly

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Speaker 1: sets up to where they're going to be the favorites

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Speaker 1: more often than not in these next four games, when

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Speaker 1: that's been a rarity the last few seasons. The Cardinals

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Speaker 1: have been the underdocks week after week after week. So

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a role reversal, and now

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Speaker 1: they have to, you know, live up to that and execute.

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Speaker 1: But I think this is a golden opportunity for the team.

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Speaker 1: With the replies, Kyle, I mean, I know it was

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Speaker 1: said about a much more serious subject, but Justin Pugh

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Speaker 1: just got through saying that it doesn't matter what you say,

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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna have something negative to say about it. So

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Speaker 1: that's that's all. And Kyle my photo. That was a

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Speaker 1: fine tweet, but it wasn't you know, Darren's tweet. What

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Speaker 1: a win for this team. They got like twelve hundred

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Speaker 1: likes than three, you know, thirty minutes. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how many likes have got,

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Speaker 1: but you know it wasn't to come full circle here

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Speaker 1: on Cardinals Underground. It wasn't really what a win for

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Speaker 1: this team? Now, Dared, did you use an exclamation point

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Speaker 1: or not? I don't. My my wife had. I know

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Speaker 1: this is going to offend some people, and I have

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Speaker 1: used exclamation points at times, but no, I don't believe not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not twelve years old. I don't use exclamation points.

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Speaker 1: That's when you when you become a writer, you don't

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Speaker 1: use exclamation points. What what it's it's it's it's beneath you, guys,

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01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: master of the printed word. It's beneath I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: just delivering the info and you can be excited about

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Speaker 1: it if you want, and we're just gonna let you

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Speaker 1: know what's going on. Who was a great win for

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Speaker 1: the team. Everybody else can add to the exclamation points.

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Speaker 1: I also feel like it's an inverse on Twitter, like

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Speaker 1: I'll put out the content that I want people to

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Speaker 1: see and it'll get crickets. And then you put out,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the very simple stuff that's more of

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Speaker 1: like the red meat for the fans, and those are

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Speaker 1: the tweets that go wild. So you tweet sometimes for

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Speaker 1: the fans, and sometimes you tweet for yourself. I just

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Speaker 1: can't believe it is staying for the exclamation point. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just it's honestly, you've used them all

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Speaker 1: up in emails to us. That's true. It really wasn't

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Speaker 1: meant to be a personal shot. If you're ever now

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Speaker 1: it's getting personal. It's not just about the colamation board.

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Speaker 1: It's about PAULI punctuation now knocking of personal. How have

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Speaker 1: we not talked about your boys Traveler yet? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: we did? Forget Oh my gosh, I get an f

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Speaker 1: for this edition of Cardinals Underground. I get a failing grade.

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Speaker 1: When they go back and they grade the film here,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a failing groun. How can we not

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Speaker 1: talk that that's terrible, that is that is that's egregious

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Speaker 1: that the Leveler, who, by the way, is really I

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Speaker 1: mean honestly, in this in this time of need in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, which is global, by the way, the Leveler

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Speaker 1: is propping up Canada single handedly. Have you seen a

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Speaker 1: response from the CFL fans and the proud Canadians. I mean,

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Speaker 1: forget the hockey playoffs that are still going on, forget

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Speaker 1: all that. It's still Leveler that is truly raising the

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Speaker 1: level of Canadian attitudes and confidence. And I mean they're

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Speaker 1: all over the fact that he came in on his

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Speaker 1: first snap and got a first down. Well, the reality is,

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Speaker 1: once they canceled the CFL season, they got to kind

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Speaker 1: of live at the curiously through a struggler to the Leveler.

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Speaker 1: So can I just I'm just disappointed. You brought this,

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Speaker 1: You brought the end of this podcast so perfectly with

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Speaker 1: a twinter, and we stepped on it. And then and

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Speaker 1: then I that's what I get. That's why, that's what

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Speaker 1: I get for using a punctuation, you know, like the

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Speaker 1: exclamation point. That's what I get because it comes back

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Speaker 1: the carmel will get you I'm finding this out the

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Speaker 1: hard way that as someone who's a repeat offender of

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Speaker 1: the exclamation point, that that's what happens. You know, My

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Speaker 1: perfect ending to this Cardinal's Underground was squashed by the

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Speaker 1: egregious omission of the level that's uh yeah, that is

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Speaker 1: worthy of an exclamation point, and that is Cardinals Underground