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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Whoa.

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Speaker 2: It's Friday, July thirtieth, twenty twenty one, and you ain't

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Speaker 2: got shit to do, so you know what that is?

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Speaker 2: Time for Morning Combat BC hosting No Jay Friday. Fired

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Speaker 2: Up the best damn sports talk show in the world

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Speaker 2: the MK. My name is Brian Campbell, that BBC with

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Speaker 2: the good Lord Bde coming at you. Fired up to

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Speaker 2: other good stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: The guy next to me, he's Harry. He's ornery, but

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Speaker 2: he does, the best fight breakdowner who's never had a

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Speaker 2: fight before. His name is Luke Thomas. And Luke come on,

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Speaker 2: It's Friday, bro Belotour two sixty three on the Horizon.

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Speaker 2: You gotta get jazz for what I'm feeling right now.

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Speaker 1: Bro, I'm feeling pretty good about We even had the

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Speaker 1: producers ahead of time on the show being like you

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Speaker 1: guys got us into this Belatore fight, and yeah, man, listen,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of times where you know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: all interested in what any promoter necessarily has to offer us.

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Speaker 1: But this is a good one for Belatmore. This is

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Speaker 2: Who better get yourself a seatbelt for today's show. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna get you fired up for all things pit Bull

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Speaker 2: McKee Saturday night, ten pm Eastern. As you see there

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Speaker 2: on the on the little decal in the corner, only

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Speaker 2: on showtime. So speaking of showtime, what would stop you

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Speaker 2: right now from getting a thirty day fur retrial? Nothing?

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Speaker 2: Nothing at all. Okay, pound sand irregardless of whether you

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Speaker 2: But this is a great network, a great app on

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Speaker 2: your phone, documentaries, championship boxing and pitpull McKee. It's all

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Speaker 2: you need in your life. So check out Take the

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Speaker 2: plunge right, take the next plunge and try that out.

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Speaker 2: I did want to shout out all of our great listeners, Luke,

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Speaker 2: who have done so much for us on this road

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Speaker 2: to one hundred K. I want to give a specific

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Speaker 2: shout out today to all of our sisters on welfare.

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Speaker 2: MK cares if don't nobody else care. So that's that's

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Speaker 2: approved and confirmed right there. I'll follow us on the

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Speaker 1: I figure is more like Brenda's got a baby. We'll

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Speaker 1: just trash can a motherfucker. Oh wow, Wow, that's a

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Speaker 2: Sorry, you can follow us below on this march to

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Speaker 2: one hundred K. We are gonna need you to specifically

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Speaker 2: hit like on this video, subscribe, tell a friend. I'm serious, guys,

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Speaker 2: this is potentially an award winning podcast, and at the

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Speaker 2: very least that other pod you listen to, it's not

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Speaker 2: as dynamic, it's not as good, it's not as energetic,

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Speaker 2: not as crafty, not as artsy as this one right here.

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna need you, folks if you want to

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Speaker 2: see us win an award, because we are nominated right

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Speaker 2: now on two different sites. What was the most recent one, Luke,

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Speaker 2: we were eight Best MMA Programming nominee at the thirteenth

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Speaker 2: annual World MMA Awards. You want to see the boys

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Speaker 2: go to World MMA Awards dot com slash nominees. We

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Speaker 2: are our competition. Luke is the UFC embedded, the UFC

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Speaker 2: Contender series, the Joe Rogan Experience, and a defunct show

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Speaker 2: that was once called DC and hel Wannie. So Luke says,

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Speaker 2: you know, Humble Bragg, we got no chance of winning.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Luke, Fuck your chances, bro, Okay, and

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Speaker 2: if you went down with MK, fuck you too. Okay,

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Speaker 2: We're winning there.

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Speaker 1: I just think you have to be realistic about your chances.

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Speaker 1: They had better chances than they did and ended up

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Speaker 2: As long as you go vote, okay, So I try,

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Speaker 2: I pray and I beg let's keep it going though.

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Speaker 2: We got a great show. As I mentioned today, check

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Speaker 2: out our shoulder content of course, YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. We're giving it to you MK all day,

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Speaker 2: nearly every day. Luke had a delayed live chat. Did

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Speaker 2: Tape delayed live chat of course. Luke and I will

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Speaker 2: Sugar Shot Evans for today's bellatur MMA two sixty three

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Speaker 2: live wigh in ceremonial. We'll do pre we'll do post

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports HQ. Look, do you have a time when

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Speaker 1: Was that fours my understanding four pm in the East.

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Speaker 2: So check that out. We handled, of course, the pre

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Speaker 2: All right, great stuff to you on Corey Sanagan. A

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Speaker 2: lot of people digging that. All right, Luke, anything any

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Speaker 2: because you know, when I get serious, it's tunnel vision.

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Speaker 2: Oh, merch, Hey, merch, good, good call. Hey. Look you

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Speaker 1: I think that's right, BC, That's right, all.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Let's start off the top.

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Speaker 2: It's a big one. Saturday night, ten pm Eastern on Showtime,

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Speaker 2: Bellatoor two sixty three, and like I've been saying this

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Speaker 2: This really is the biggest, the most prestigious fight in

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Speaker 2: free air against unbeaten AJ McKee, the finals of the

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Speaker 2: sixteen man featherweight tournament, the world title, the one million

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Speaker 2: shit's at stake, and Luke. Our most recent update, of course,

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Speaker 2: is yesterday's press conference from the Forum in Englewood, when

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Speaker 2: things got a little Harry Minich, if you can play

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Speaker 2: their talk got into family Luke. As they began to

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. I was going and watching McKee's fights at

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Speaker 1: if it's gonna be like what happened with Michael Chandler,

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Speaker 1: which is yes, it was a good shot. I don't

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Speaker 1: it can go either way. I just feel like McKee

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Speaker 2: Look, let me put a little pin in this discussion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturday, Baby Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Look, I love the o g Antonio McKee, the father

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Speaker 2: what do I mean by that? Luke? There are there

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Speaker 2: But if you think about mckey's style here, luke his style.

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Speaker 1: Easily, right exactly. We thought like after that first fight

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Speaker 2: Let's give let's put some respect on that guillotine's name.

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Speaker 2: When Pitbull puts his ar you know, his boat constrictors

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Speaker 1: Yes, But I do think early if you try and

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Speaker 1: He's got good counter striking, good slipping. Obviously he's battle

432
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 1: tested that kind of thing. So I think the first

433
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: two rounds you don't let Aj do whatever he wants,

434
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 1: but you stay disciplined about what you're good about. And

435
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: then as he begins to slow down and the creativity

436
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 1: gets a little bit less and the frequency of attack,

437
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: and that's really the big part of it, BC, the

438
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,680
Speaker 1: frequency of attack gets lessened. That's the key as well.

439
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: So after that happens, then I think pit Bull has

440
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 1: to switch. And then I think he has to start

441
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 1: backing up McKey. But I think if you try to

442
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: just back up McKy from the word go, it won't

443
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 1: really work well. He'll just throw tons of offense at you.

444
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 1: And I think about McKey that people sleep on. He's

445
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 1: good at finding the back. He's got excellent submissions all

446
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 1: the way around. Good dars chokes obviously saw the triangle,

447
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 1: we saw the one percenter modification one against Darien Caldwell.

448
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 1: Like the dude's got plenty of subs. And if you start,

449
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, you get out of your game. He'll find

450
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 1: your back quick and then you're in just a world

451
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 1: of trouble. Even though Pitbull himself is a world class

452
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: black belt, but I think if you are aj you

453
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 1: also shouldn't get out of your game, which is to say,

454
00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 1: you want to start strong, you want to set the

455
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: early definitely, you want to get in pit Bull's head.

456
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: You want to make him on the back foot, not

457
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: just mentally or scho physically, but mentally as well. The

458
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: key is if I was him, you know, And this

459
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: is just my opinion worth nothing in certain dialing it

460
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 1: back just a little bit, just a little bit, because

461
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 1: one some of the attacks he throws early in this

462
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: sort of spontaneity, a lot of them don't work, and

463
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: they take up a lot of energy. I think if

464
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: you not change what he's doing, BC, you don't want

465
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: to change it, edit it, make it just you got

466
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 1: this much, make it just a little bit less, a

467
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 1: little bit less, so it's still the same kind of

468
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: core attack and tone setting without getting so much so

469
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 1: that if you find yourself in that fourth and fifth

470
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 1: round and your dog tired, because let's be honest, Pitbull's

471
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 1: got more than twice the level of experience that AJ does,

472
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in trouble. You gotta save something in

473
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 1: case the fight goes late. I know, he said BC

474
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: at the press of yesterday. It's not going to the

475
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: championship rounds. And hey, both of these guys have fight

476
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: ending ability from the word go, no doubt about it.

477
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: But you got a plan for the worst case scenario.

478
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: Or the worst case scenario is your dog tired and

479
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: you're staring across the cage. You got five more minutes

480
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: to go in a twenty five minute fight, and Patricio

481
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 1: is gonna look fresh as a daisy. I guarantee it. Dude.

482
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: That's a horrible place to be. You don't want to

483
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 1: find yourself there.

484
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: And Patricio can go five rounds for days. Watch your

485
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 2: resume review. You'll see some great evans of that. McKee

486
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: has never been past three rounds, Luke, But he's constantly said, Look,

487
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be an issue. It's no thing to me.

488
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,479
Speaker 2: I can do it. Well, can you do it? If?

489
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: If you know pitple's on top of you trying to

490
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: submit you, or if he's beating you down to the

491
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 2: body with punches, which could be interesting, Luke, who do

492
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: you think is gonna shoot first or if at all

493
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: in this one? I mean, do you think sure?

494
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: Aj McKee? For sure? AJ McKee, And he'd be smart too, dude.

495
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: This is the thing about pit Bull. Pit Bull's not

496
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: gonna get like short of being forced into a mistake,

497
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: It's unlikely that he's gonna get his back taken for

498
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: very long. It's unlikely he's going to take a shit

499
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: ton of damage underneath, but he will take some damage,

500
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: and you probably can take in some kind of advantageous

501
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: position and then at least get him worried about the takedown,

502
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: which could open up the strikes. Yeah, I know, Antonio

503
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: McKee was saying, Oh, you've never seen really AJ Wressel.

504
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: We do. He wrestled his ass off in the compost fight.

505
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: It's why he found himself on top more often than

506
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: not that one sequence for the fight ending. Notwithstanding, we

507
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 1: actually have seen He's very, very good, super explosive, great

508
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: level change. Yeah. If I was AJ, I'd absolutely mix

509
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: that in. That's a great way to win the round.

510
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: If you can get the takedown early, BC, you don't

511
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: have to spend a ton of energy to maintain it

512
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: against a guy like Pitbull who's not going to be

513
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: a huge guard threat. Yeah, no doubt about it. AJ

514
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: is going to shoot in this fight. I believe it.

515
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: Are we discounting the Captain Eric Albert as Sin, the

516
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: great trainer who Luke has implemented wrestling strategies into so

517
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: many of his Great Fighters game plans is there any

518
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: chance you could be surprised by a pit who comes

519
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: out there looking to wrestle against this guy.

520
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: I would be surprised by that. I think AJ has

521
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: a very I think AJ is dangerous off of his back. Man,

522
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of different ways, whether it's

523
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: the one percenter against Caldwell, the triangles, and also just

524
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: he's got good underneath. I don't call it ground and pound,

525
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: but he's got good defensive striking, so to speak, off

526
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: of his back, he's good about putting his feet in

527
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: the hips and creating separation. He's got by the way,

528
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: he uses actively his butterfly guard, if not for full

529
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: on sweeps, but to create separation so then he can

530
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: fire an underhook and stand like I'd be very very surprised,

531
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: especially early maybe later, depending on how the fight goes.

532
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: Like let's say that AJ is completely dog tired and

533
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: maybe there's a case to be made you could take

534
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: him down and just beat the shit out of him. Okay,

535
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: all right, if you get to that point, fine, But

536
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: early on, dude, AJ's a threat from his back. I

537
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: don't like that call at all. We'll see what happens,

538
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: but I'd be surprised Honestly.

539
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: You've already got the captain texting you this morning, correct.

540
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: Luke, He did text me do we have the video

541
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: of that?

542
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: We don't have the video right now though, but he

543
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: did shout out morning combat right there for yeah where Eric?

544
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: Eric? He what's app me? And was like, oh, I

545
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: think he was talking about the resume review that he

546
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: liked that we did, but.

547
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Patrichy with him. Patricky was like yeah, baby, okay,

548
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: So Luke, he had.

549
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: The world's most garish glasses on Wells.

550
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: That's how he rolls. William Hill. Our friends there have

551
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 2: the odds set at plus one oh five for aj McKee,

552
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: minus one twenty five for Piple as close as possible.

553
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: I do wonder Luke about, like you know you, Pipple's

554
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: too professional and historically strong to get rattled, so we think,

555
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: and we did talk about the be careful what you

556
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 2: wish for. Look what happened to Chandler. But McKee's been

557
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 2: so consistent at sort of poking the bear that it

558
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: does make you wonder speaking of the great savagery of Piple.

559
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 2: Men each has a video we can throw to of

560
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: a response to Snoop Dog from Long Beach as well

561
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: as the mcke's here giving his prediction. Maag, can we

562
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 2: throw to this brilliant piece of tape?

563
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: What up do?

564
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 5: I want to give a shout out to my nephew

565
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 5: a j Chi fighting Belator two sixty three. He's fighting

566
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 5: Pitt Bull. Yeah, he's fighting Pitt Bull for his world

567
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 5: championship and a million dollars. A J go to work, LBC.

568
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 5: I see how you be putting hands on folks. Do

569
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 5: your thing, man, represent the city and represent everything you've

570
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 5: been talk in the real way. This is big snoop

571
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 5: dog your uncle, cover that your line and direct LBC's

572
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 5: finest knock his ass out.

573
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: Hey, look the dog. I hope you'll go and knocked Picky.

574
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 5: But the rapper and Gold maybe shouldn't watch so many

575
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 5: of the games.

576
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 2: He did be a first fifty fifty years.

577
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: Motherfucker.

578
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 5: Man, it's starting the.

579
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 2: Look that's a Hall of Fame response, right, the holy shit,

580
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: I'm not the pit bull, the rapper, I'm pitpull the goat.

581
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 5: Uh.

582
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: Look, there's typically so much drama in the LBC, but

583
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 2: pipules like come to my favella basically and I'll show

584
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: you what's up. Wow, Luke the balls on.

585
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: That man, Right, listen, this is what I mean. It's like,

586
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: I'll say this for what AJ did, AJ kind of

587
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: standing up to pit Bull yesterday, whatever you want to

588
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: call it, I think that's good for AJ in the

589
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: sense that it gets him, you know, in the mood

590
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: and like ready to go. And I have no doubt

591
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: in my mind AJ believes he can win. I am

592
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: skeptical that it rattles Pitbull. I gotta be honest with you.

593
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical that it gets him off his game. I

594
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: think it gets AJ into his game. I don't think

595
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: it takes pit Bull out of it. This dude is

596
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: hard knows man. He's been that way since I've been

597
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: covering him. It's only gotten more so as his accomplishments

598
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: have have gotten bigger and bigger. This dude don't suffer fools.

599
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: Gladly man. It usually makes people pay for shit like that.

600
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting for sure.

601
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: Look, we talked about all the steaks. Do you agree

602
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: that if McKee defeats Pitple here and you know, convincing

603
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: or clear, non disputed fashion, that he would take over

604
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: number one pound for pound under the belt to a brand.

605
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 2: If AJ wins, yeah, McKee, Yeah, that's said McKee.

606
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: Sorry, I thought I thought you may have said again.

607
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't get into these pound for pound debates, but

608
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you a BC, like, if you go

609
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: on the run he's been on and it culminates with

610
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: beating Pitbull, and let's say it's like dominant, how however

611
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: likely or unlikely that is it's dominant. I don't know

612
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: who you'd put above them, you know, I don't know,

613
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: because Ryan Bader still has the belt, and he's done

614
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: some interesting stuff, and there are some other you know,

615
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: nem call is any of the waight class champions have

616
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: done good stuff. He's there, Saucy's there. But dude, that run.

617
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I guess you would. I guess you would. Honestly,

618
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: I guess you really would.

619
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: All Right, if either fighter wins without controversy, will they

620
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: legitimately have a chance to win twenty twenty one's MMA

621
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: Fighter of the Year against guys like Usman and I

622
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: mean they're you know, Brandon Moreno, there's a lot. There's

623
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: actually a strong pool of contenders. As we sit here

624
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: at the you know, second half entering mark of the

625
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: calendar year, considering they would I mean, answer the question

626
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: are they in their running?

627
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: Legitimately, I'm a little bit I don't know what to

628
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: say about it. If Pitbull does, I think we might.

629
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: I think we might. But if AJ does, I don't

630
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: know how you take that away from him. You know,

631
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: to go on the run that he's been on against

632
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: the opponents he's faced, and if he does what he's

633
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: been doing against pit Bull, like you know, finishes him

634
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: off in spectacular fashion, how do you deny that kid

635
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: at that point. It's not that I don't think that

636
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Pitbull beating AJ is not significant and interesting and big,

637
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: But like, part of the story here is that Pitbull

638
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: is battle tested, He is proven against all different kinds

639
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: of scenarios. There is still something of a question about

640
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: Aj McKee. As brilliant as he has been, we still

641
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: don't know how to you go up against the likes

642
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: of that guy, that fucking Brazilian terminator. So to me,

643
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: it's it's almost a bigger win if AJ wins it

644
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: versus if Pitbull. At the same time, dude, Pitbull's record

645
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: of dominance, should he get through Aj McKee. You know

646
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: I've said this before dude, I wonder if you agree.

647
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: I suspect you probably do. I think if Pitbull goes

648
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: in here and gives a guy like AJ the business, however, again,

649
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: however likely or unlikely, that's positive scenario where that happens.

650
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: Cocher needs to really take seriously the idea that this

651
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: guy deserves a shot at one thirty five. And I

652
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: don't know if they can make the one thirty five

653
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: title fight happen in this calendar year. But I guess

654
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: I would say to me AJ winning it's a Locke's

655
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: Fighter of the Year at least in that contention. If

656
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: Pitbull wins, I think it sets up a fight that

657
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: could put him in the pantheon of all time greatness

658
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: or you know, the Yearly awards, perhaps a little more

659
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: modest an award. But I don't know, maybe you disagree.

660
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if Pitbull beating McKee necessarily puts him

661
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 1: in that same space.

662
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: I mean, look, this tournament offers the champion no favors.

663
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: As we talked about Emmanuel Sanchez was riding high and

664
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: hard when they fought in April, Luke and he finished

665
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: him in the first round rather easily. But this would

666
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 2: only be two fights, like you said, if you can

667
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: get a third, and if that third could be cut

668
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: into one thirty five and beating Sergio Pettis to become

669
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: a three division champion. Yeah, all bets are fricking off.

670
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: You can make Pitbull your Fighter of the Year and

671
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: put him in the in the all time Great Human

672
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame at that point, it would be incredible.

673
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: But look the whole the last thing that was potentially

674
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: at stake, which is the transfer of power of greatest

675
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: Belatore fighter ever. Should McKee win, which I think some

676
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: people either don't care about or a like hold up,

677
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 2: the guy has only been fighting for six years. But

678
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: let me just put this out there. Okay, we know

679
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: Pitpull is the face of the franchise in Belatour. He

680
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: currently owns Belatour records for wins with twenty fights, appearances

681
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: with twenty four, and finishes with thirteen. Should amyj McKee

682
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: beat him, Luke, and should he finish him, he would

683
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: tie him over for most finishes in Belator history, extend

684
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: his record of consecutive wins in Belatory history, and move

685
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: within two fights of most wins overall in Belatore history.

686
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: So I don't think that's wrong. Should aj win and

687
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: win decisively for whatever it's worth, whether people care about

688
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: that or not, to say, he's also the best fighter

689
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: in Belatar history, So just a lot. It's just it's

690
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: just a gratuitous amount of things at stake. But put

691
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: that to the side, Luke, people want to know who

692
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: you're backing. Saturday night, ten pm Eastern on Showtime, who

693
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: wins pit Bull McKee.

694
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: In all honesty, gun to the head scenario, I really

695
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: believe that it is a coin flip, but forced to

696
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: make a pick in the spirit of the in the

697
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: spirit of the question, I'm gonna lean towards Pitbull. I'm

698
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: gonna lean towards Pitbull. And I say that with you know, candidly, BC.

699
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm just being completely honest with the audience, like a

700
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: lot of trepidation, you know, I don't want to lose

701
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: sight of just how I mean. This is not I

702
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: want to be clear about this. This is not a

703
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: tournament where these two guys met in the finals and

704
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: like you know, one kind of eke their way in

705
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: there and the other one blew through the doors to

706
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: get there. Both of them have looked fucking awesome on

707
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: the way to get here, like they haven't had hardly

708
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: a scratch put on him by anybody. It's been relatively

709
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: fucking easy. Frankly for both all these I should say

710
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: they made it look easy. How about that they made

711
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: it look incredibly easy to get here, So like you're

712
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: not banking on like, oh who star is rising and

713
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Yes, McKee is obviously on the come up,

714
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: and he's younger, and he's got some other physical advantages

715
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: that you pointed to. And I want to be clear,

716
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: you want to pick McKee be seeing I know you do. Hey, man,

717
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't really know what I can say to argue

718
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: with that. I think there's a very good case for

719
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: the guy. I just feel like, for me, a guy

720
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: like Pitbull in the form that he's in, with the

721
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: experience that he's in, he should probably have enough to

722
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: deal with the storm that is AJ McKee, and then

723
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: that experienced difference a little bit later should play out.

724
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: But but honestly, dude, this one is a head scratcher

725
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: and I can't wait.

726
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I respect that pick. Obviously, look at the odds,

727
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 2: look at the matchup. Also, look at place to your character.

728
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 2: You're a show me the receipts, show me the science.

729
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: I'll believe in the Great Lord. When and if I

730
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: meet him at the end, I'll then I'll tell you

731
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: he's real.

732
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: Luke.

733
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: I you know, I believe in things I haven't seen.

734
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: I haven't seen AJ McKee win a fight at this level,

735
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: but I do believe it's under there. I think it

736
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: goes the distance, and I think AJ McKee ultimately neutralizes

737
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: everything Piple tries to do. I think he stays out

738
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: of Harry's situations, and I think Luke, he win's a

739
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: technical fight. It may not think that's possible given the

740
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: fight ending ability is certainly the savagery of Pipple, but

741
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: I think for the first time, maybe since certain pockets

742
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: of those Daniel Strauss fights, we see a Pipple who

743
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: doesn't have answers Luke for some of these equations, and

744
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: that's gonna be very interesting to see. Either way, love

745
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: the fight, Luke. AJ's gonna make you a believer, and

746
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: hopefully by the end of our relationship, I'll make you

747
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: a believer as well.

748
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: On deeper sects, I believe, I believe. Listen, I'll say this.

749
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: If AJ doesn't win a title on Saturday, he'll win

750
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: a title soon.

751
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: Well that's why you know. Aj said he wants the

752
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: lightweight belt next against Pitpull after he wins uh. Pit

753
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: Bull said at the press conference yesterday that you know,

754
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: my brother's the number one contender, so we're gonna have

755
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: to have a talk with Scott. I don't know if

756
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: that means giving up the belt so Patricky can fight

757
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: for it and then have Patricio go down to thirty

758
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: five or Luke, whether that means brother versus brother And

759
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: I know you're you, Josh Thompson want Archiletta. They don't

760
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: want to talk about that topic. Only BC seems to

761
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: care about that.

762
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: It's a little weird that you want brothers to fight

763
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: each other so aggressively rather than like being like, hey,

764
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: if it happens, I understand you're like, hey, I want

765
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: to see families torn apart. I don't like it when

766
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: families are together. It's a little unnerving to be candid

767
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: with you, but I understand the appeal.

768
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: All right, Luke. The rest of the belt are two

769
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: sixty three card, which doesn't suck despite the fallout of

770
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: Magomed Maga Metoff is very good. Look this cole main

771
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: event people may sleep on, but it is in the

772
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: same vision. Featherweight Emmanuel Sanchez, fresh off that lost to

773
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: Patricio Pitbull in the semi final round in which Lucy

774
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 2: came in there red hot on a win streak. He's

775
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: facing a guy who is peaking right now in the

776
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: Danish submission expert mauds Burnell, who has won six of seven.

777
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: I believe, Luke, and is just really putting things together.

778
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: Is he of the level of an Emmanuel Sanchez and

779
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: is he the perfect kind of kryptonite to counteract Sanchez

780
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: his aggressive style.

781
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: Here, Luke, I actually feel like this co main event

782
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: might even be just as good of a pure fight,

783
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: a pure fight as the main event. Emmanuel Sanchez. He

784
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: know sad man. He didn't get a chance to show

785
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: it against Pitbull, But if you watch the Daniel Weischel fight,

786
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: which I think was just before that one, dude, there's

787
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: no denying Emmanuel Sanchez is a lot better than he

788
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: used to be. In what was the knock always on

789
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanchez, Well, the good side was always that he had.

790
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: He's I don't want to say he's Bellator's Morob de

791
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: Volashvili because that's not quite right, But I'll say this,

792
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: You'll never ever worry about Emmanuel Sanchez's gas tank. Ever.

793
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: I don't care how beaten up he is. I don't

794
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: care how many body shots he's taken. I don't care

795
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: how much wrestling he's done. He has an indefatigable motor.

796
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: Totally beyond that, though. What's new about him, you know,

797
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: the Patrisio fight not with standing here, poor guy, is

798
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: that he didn't quite have a lot of finishing instinct

799
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: or skills. He was good at winning rounds, he was

800
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: good at staying on top of guys, you know, backing

801
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: them up if he needed to, but he didn't quite

802
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: have the mechanisms to bring the fight to a close

803
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: before the bell itself. He still struggles with that a

804
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: little bit, but he's gotten way better at that too.

805
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: He's got better aggression, I think, better sense about when

806
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: to go for submissions, better sense about when to turn

807
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: up the striking a little bit. Duke Ruffis, I think

808
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: has done a phenomenal job with Emmanuel Sanchez. But MADD's burnell, dude.

809
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's like the Spider Man meme with

810
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: two guys pointing at each other. If these guys want

811
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: to grapple. Well, Madds Burnell is not, you know, obviously identical,

812
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: but he has a fantastic motor himself. He's got great

813
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: distance strike himself, and on the ground he can scramble

814
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: find the back. I mean, I really feel like what

815
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna see with these two is probably at some

816
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: point they're gonna lock up and tangle on the ground

817
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be phenomenal, very very very closely contested.

818
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: I'd say MADD's BURNELLBC probably slightly better as a finisher

819
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: or at least still setting up those kinds of on

820
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: the precipice moments during the course of a round. But

821
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanchez not to be fucked with. I think he's

822
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: a slight favorite here. I think he's got a little

823
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: bit more experience. Frankly, i'd argue against top guys. But

824
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 1: that's a great, great fight.

825
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: William Hill has it. Luke plus one oh five Emmanuel

826
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: Sanchez the underdog minus won twenty five Mads Brnell And

827
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: if you need a little refresher on brnella as I

828
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: did myself, Luke, he's won six in a row, five

829
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: by stoppage and the entire winning streak has come after

830
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 2: a run in the UFC in twenty seventeen and twenty

831
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: eighteen in which he went one and two, got submitted

832
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: by Arnold Allen and left the promotion in twenty eighteen.

833
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: But Luke, he's been red hot since he's a former

834
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: Cage Warriors by the way champ. Which is you what

835
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: you have always said is the best what feeder organization

836
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: to prepare you for high level MMA? And he has

837
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: seven victories via first round submission. So he's coming here

838
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: ready to tangle, ready to grapple. H Can he go

839
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: deep with Sanchez if needed? We'll find out here, Luke,

840
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: this should be a very good one. Continuing down this card, Looke,

841
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: what has you pop in? Is it the cousin of

842
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: Habib Normaga medov Usman in his second belator fight following

843
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: a win overt Mike Hamill, excuse me? Taking on Manny Morrow?

844
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: Is that? Are you fired up with this?

845
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see Nimergamedov probably beat him up real bad.

846
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: I don't think this is all that competitive. Frankly, again,

847
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: we lost the one I really wanted, was the one

848
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: that I'm told his rescheduled for August thirteenth is uh

849
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: mcamed Maga Madoff taken on Raffie on Statts. That was

850
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: the one that I was like, that was the hardcore

851
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: fans delight on that card. It's gone because of some issues,

852
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: but he'll be back soon. Short of that, I'm actually

853
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: a little more interested in the Brent premise Islam Mamadov fight.

854
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: Mamoedov is the genuine article in the sense of battle tested,

855
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: twenty fights, only one loss. He's not quite as like

856
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: ironclad Locke as you know when you look, Oh you

857
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: see Makachev versus Tiago moys Is. She's like, Okay, Makachev

858
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: should easily win this. Mamadov should win this. He is

859
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: the favorite according to William Hill at minus two excuse me,

860
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: minus two ten Brent premise at plus one seventy five.

861
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: But primise is good dude, and Mamadov is he's good too.

862
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: But I don't want to be like, oh, here's another

863
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: nineteen and one guy from Russia. He must be one

864
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: of these other unstoppable dudes. He's very, very talented, but

865
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: he's not quite at that level He's got. He's got

866
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: some weaknesses. He can be touched up on the feet.

867
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: Brent Premise is I think a little bit being overlooked here.

868
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: He's a little bit more wrestling ground and pound. You

869
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: can see going for the choke kind of a guy.

870
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how that will match up with Mamadov exactly,

871
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: but I believe in his athletic skill, I believe in

872
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: his aggression, and he's got experience against good fighters too,

873
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: So that's the one I'm kind of paying a little

874
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: bit more attention to.

875
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, Primise is thirty six, of course a former CHAMPI

876
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: but he did win that at Belatoor NYC after Chandler

877
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: hurt his leg. I mean the let you know, it's

878
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: a TKO. We know how it happened, but it was,

879
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: you know, a little fluky and Chandler came back and

880
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: won that decision in the rematch unanimous. But this is

881
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: a big chance for Premise to get back on the

882
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: board in a big way. And Luke Mama dov Uh

883
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: he is from the Smesh Factory. Luke a training partner

884
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: of Habib and Usman nor Maga Metofen. He's eighteen zho

885
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: to one in his last nineteen fights, so uh stepping

886
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 2: up to a higher level here. We'll see what he's got.

887
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm also interested to see usman. But you, as you mentioned,

888
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: big favorite minus eleven hundred according to William Hillsey, you

889
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: wonder if that's a little bit of a showcase about there, Luke,

890
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: we will check it out. Can't wait ten pm Eastern

891
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: Saturday night showtime. It's Belatore two sixty three. Let's keep

892
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: it rolling here, Luke. We've also got a UFC fight

893
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: Night card this Saturday from Las Vegas. And look, we're

894
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: always honest, Belato or MMA or anything. Is the card

895
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: good or does it suck? This card sucks, Luke? Can

896
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 2: we say that out loud?

897
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 5: Uh?

898
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to Yeah.

899
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you a first chance this card, right.

900
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not good there there are like, look, any

901
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: UFC card is going to have a couple of gems

902
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: on it because it's UFC and they've got the most

903
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: of the world's talent. But to your point, like top

904
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: to bottom, is it stacked? No, it ain't fucking stacked.

905
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we have a middleweight man event, Euryah

906
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: Hall versus Sean Strickland. Hall entering the thirty six year

907
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 2: old on a four fight win streak. Albeit Luke two

908
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: wins which have come under some level of question considering

909
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 2: he didn't throw a strike to be Chris Widman following

910
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: the leg break and then the Anderson Silva retirement bout

911
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 2: was what it was, Luke. I was offered an interview

912
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: with Euryah Hall, and you know he's got a history, Luke,

913
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: of not being the most dynamic interview. But Luke, you know,

914
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: I interviewed TJ Dillashaw last week and the fans spoke,

915
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: they said, that's twenty twenty one's best chat. So I

916
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: tried to equal that with Uriah Hall to very differing effects.

917
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: Can we throw to the first video here, which you

918
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: can check out on YouTube dot com slash Morning Combatman

919
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: each So I.

920
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: Just started looking at media different because the media, you know,

921
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: they always to tell the truth, but they don't.

922
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: Is that we don't care it hurts sell it. We

923
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: want clicks. It's part of the game.

924
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 4: I get it, and I totally get it. I understand

925
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: it and do you boo boo?

926
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Do I have to be a

927
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: part of it? No? I don't.

928
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: I I thought maybe you had some beef with Luke

929
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: Thomas my my cohor on this show. That guy gets

930
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 2: a lot of beef's all right, I'm sure he does.

931
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 4: I've heard him say some stuff, but you know what, again,

932
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm no one to hate.

933
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: He's a powerful thing.

934
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: But what fuck, Luke Thomas, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, alright,

935
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 3: that's what you're right headline Brian Campbell and your eye

936
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: a hole.

937
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, Hey, y'all, you're say that great, great Chad,

938
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: best of luck on Saturday. Even if you're nervous on

939
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: the walkout, bro, still be you. Everything will be fine,

940
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: all right.

941
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: You're an unbelievable loser that you got to throw me

942
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: under the bus. And I've never said I don't think

943
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: i've said a bad word about your Ryal Hall ever.

944
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: Well full this disclosure. When we started the interview, like

945
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: when we turned the camera on, he looked at me

946
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: over the zoom screen. He goes, oh, I know you guys,

947
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: And I'm like, whoa, whoa, what do you know? Good

948
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: or bad? And he's like, I'll tell you at the

949
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: end of the interview. So, Luke, I think he keeps receipts,

950
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: which is fine. It motivates him. He's a very introspective,

951
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: prideful man and a very deep man. And I think

952
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: that came out in this interview.

953
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: Luke.

954
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: You didn't watch it though, so that's fine.

955
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: You know well, you know, I mean you do. You're

956
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: such trash You're so you're such a trashy person that

957
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: you have to do that. You should be a shamed

958
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: of yourself already.

959
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: You call me Brian ben Lawden again, is that where

960
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: you're going with this?

961
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 5: Lie?

962
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: Yes? Uh O'Brien Bin Laden. You're both Sam.

963
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: You remember that guy, Producer Jay. And by the way,

964
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: Producer Jay had a great botch on yesterday's Bellator.

965
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean, could he have been worse? We should have

966
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: just put a gorilla up there who could fingerpaint. We

967
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: would have had better results.

968
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: But look, you remember when Producer j used to come

969
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: on this show and talk about the success he had

970
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 2: training against Ryah Hall.

971
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: Yes, I was.

972
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: Keeping receipts this time and each can we go to

973
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: the videotape here? Do you see that at all?

974
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: He's wearing a hat. I can't tell. But I was

975
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: a sense. I was a sense in Tiger Shuman's in Manhattan.

976
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: He claims you were his sense and you guys were

977
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: sparring and you were showing him some things, and he

978
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: may or may not have done a spinning kick and

979
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 2: knocked you off your feet. And I'm like, bro, stop lying, Okay,

980
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: stop that ship. I said one day, I'm gonna get

981
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: your Rya Hall on this show and I'm gonna prove

982
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: to the world that you lie in So your Rya Hall,

983
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: can you put him in his place?

984
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 5: Jay?

985
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: Aaron, You've never seen this gentleman in your life.

986
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: Right, I do remember being a sense I can't recall

987
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 4: being knocked off my feet with a spinning kick. The

988
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: only person I can remember did that was Raymond Daniels.

989
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not our producer, Raymond Daniels. No, but I

990
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 2: really don't remember. And if he did, hey, that's his moment. Okay,

991
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: he's probably getting ju.

992
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: Now, Bro, I want you to know fuck Jay, by

993
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: the way, because obviously Jay's lying. I'm gonna get you

994
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: back for that. I don't know how just yet. I'm

995
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna get you sent to hell by somebody,

996
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: and you're gonna fucking hate it, and I'm going to

997
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: love it.

998
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: May happen by accident. Before that, Luke, I will say

999
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: I was hoping that your ryh was gonna go. I've

1000
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: never seen I've never heard of JA before, but I'm

1001
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: a big fan of this Pennington James guy. That would

1002
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: have been great, Luke, that would have been great.

1003
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: Yes, that would have been.

1004
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: All right, Luke Theatrix and and f Luke Thomas aside, uh,

1005
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: your expectations thoughts care level for this main event. Look,

1006
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: Sean Stricklands a guy we don't talk about much, Luke,

1007
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: but he is on a red hot wind streak and

1008
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: the Great Aaron Bronstead of Canadian fame told me he

1009
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: interviewed him the other day and it was batshit crazy.

1010
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: This guy is h is ready for action. You who

1011
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: do you believe will be the victor on Sara?

1012
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: You know what I gotta say, Sean Strickland's a good fighter,

1013
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: a really good fighter. So since coming to the UFC,

1014
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: he has lost to Kamara Us okay fair enough in

1015
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, so we're not talking six years ago he

1016
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: lost to Pon Zinibio, and then he lost in twenty

1017
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: eighteen to Elizi's Aleski Do Santos, who can be inconsistent,

1018
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: but when he's on he's a very very good striker.

1019
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: But since then, dude, he's beat Nordine Teleb, Jack Marshman,

1020
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: he beat Brendan Allen via TKO, which is a very

1021
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: impressive win. And he beat Christoph Jocko. Now I don't know,

1022
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: and he's got a win over Tom Breeze. He's got

1023
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: a wins over a lot of guys. I don't know

1024
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: that I've seen him beat someone the caliber of your

1025
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: Riya Hall when your Rya Hall is on. But he's

1026
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: on a great streak. He's an impressive striker. He's a madman, right,

1027
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: He's a bit of a wild card. Like there was

1028
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: a video that came out about a month or two

1029
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: ago roughly where he was seen kind of having a

1030
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: bit of a gym fight with Orlando I think his

1031
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: name is Orlando Sanchez, the sort of dominant plus ninety

1032
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: nine kilo grappler who who I think was sparring with him,

1033
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, and Strickland is kind of going braz on

1034
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: him and they had this moment they I think worked

1035
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: it out after the fact or whatever. But dude, he's

1036
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: he says like crazy stuff, like he's kind of all

1037
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: in on this game of just biting down the mouthpiece

1038
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: and going. But but dude's got skills too. Here's the

1039
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: thing for me, though, Uryah Hall training at four to MMA,

1040
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: this is what to me, the fight comes down to you.

1041
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: Rya Hall. I think if he's not disciplined, could get

1042
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: sucked into this game that Sean Strickland wants to play

1043
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: of kind of being like a technical He's more than this,

1044
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: but he can sometimes be a technical brawler and I

1045
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: think if Rya Hall tries to play that game with him,

1046
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: it'll go Sean Strickland's way. However, safe sode out of

1047
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: four to c MMA and all those things he's doing there,

1048
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: I think he's got Uryah kind of locked on to

1049
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: a different space. So if if Uryah can play, I

1050
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: think a little bit more of a distance game BC

1051
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: sticking and moving, making sure that Strickland has to mind

1052
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: the gap between them, so to speak to Bar from

1053
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: the London Tube, that's a that's a way he can win.

1054
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: But dude, Strickland's a force. He's an absolute force. The

1055
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: one thing that's a bit hard for him is he

1056
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: can he'll walk into strikes sometimes, not that he doesn't

1057
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: know how to defend them, but he'll almost do it

1058
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: recklessly To sort of counteract an opponent. It'll be interesting

1059
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: to see who can define the terms of the fight BC,

1060
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: who can make the fight look a certain way. If

1061
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: it's looking chaotic and RYA's on the back foot, I

1062
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: tend to think that probably would be great for him.

1063
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: But if there's a lot of distance between them and

1064
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: Uriah is carefully sort of managing the space with movement

1065
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: and whatnot in angles, that's definitely a fight he can win.

1066
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: Luke, you just said the letters BC like seventeen times

1067
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: during that very good analysis on this fight. And you know,

1068
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: there used to be people viewers of our show that

1069
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: were so annoyed by that. There's a guy named John

1070
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: Bolton calls himself JB on Instagram. He used to be

1071
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: so annoyed by you saying BC every other sentence that

1072
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: he got out these like old school like pitch counting clickers,

1073
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: and he would send me pictures every show the of

1074
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 2: the click. And then as he was doing that, he realized, Luke,

1075
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: that I was saying Luke at least five to seven

1076
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: times more, and his latest clickings have it on like

1077
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 2: a five to one margin. Apparently people are very upset

1078
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: that I won't stop saying your name and this show.

1079
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: But Luke, the reason why I say Luke so much,

1080
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: Luke is your If I don't you'll I'll lose you.

1081
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 2: I'll lose you in the in the middle. You'll be

1082
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: in deep.

1083
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: Down, you know, me doing this today where today is

1084
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: BC's day to pretend that like you want to be

1085
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: mad at me so you can appeal to like five

1086
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: guys who DM you consistently. Is that? Is that what

1087
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: we're doing here today? Are we doing? Luke?

1088
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: William Hill has minus two ten as Sean Strickland as

1089
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: your favorite, plus one seven five you're Riah Hall. And

1090
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: to your point about Hall switching things, his camp, his

1091
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: game plan, Luke, since he's done that, let's look back

1092
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: at the last five years. We all remember you. Riyah

1093
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: Hall had that three fight losing skit in which he

1094
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 2: lost the decision to Robert Whitaker and got stopped by

1095
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 2: Brunston and Gayguard Musasi in their rematch. Since then, though, Luke,

1096
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: he's won five of six. The only loss was that

1097
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: barn Burner with Paul Tapaulo Costa where Hall had moments

1098
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: where moments where I thought he was might have a

1099
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: chance to finish that fight, So, Luke, he's thirty six,

1100
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: he's turned it around. He is the underdog. What's his ceiling? Luke?

1101
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,479
Speaker 2: You know Hall's still telling me, you know, my goal

1102
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: is to get to that title bout I want to

1103
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: fight out Asnya. I want to get that chance. Uh

1104
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 2: is that going to be in the cards, Luke?

1105
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I I tend to

1106
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: think that that's the the you know, the guys you

1107
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: have to beat along the way to get to Adasanya,

1108
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: like a Whitaker and a Cannoneer and her Manson and

1109
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: those types. You know, that's tough. That's tough. I mean,

1110
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: Strickland's very very tough, and he's right. You beat your

1111
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: Rya Hall, you get to that next tier where you

1112
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: start getting into that potential her Manson territory. So I

1113
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: would imagine that Hall would get the same kind of

1114
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: bump or something similar along the way. I think that

1115
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: I said I've said before. I think when you Rya

1116
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: Hall is on on, he's capable of beating just about

1117
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: anybody in that division. I'll say this, I want to

1118
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: see not just that he beats Strickland, but that he

1119
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: beats them by maintaining a disciplined, consistent game plan over

1120
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: the course of a fight. Some adjustments here there which

1121
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: I leave to him and his coaches to make, and

1122
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: whatever those may need to be. I guess what I'll

1123
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: say is I believe in his upside BC, but I've

1124
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: seen it kind of he's got I don't know. I

1125
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: don't know how to explain this exactly. I need to

1126
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: see something in this fight and maybe a subsequent one

1127
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: that shows he's leveled off past errors or leveled off

1128
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: past some of the things that have kind of held

1129
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: him back before. I think that he's shown a lot

1130
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: of the things externally through interviews and even some of

1131
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: the fights themselves, that maybe he has passed it. Strickland

1132
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: is one of those tests where he could easily overwhelm

1133
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: somebody who's not mentally all there. He could easily overwhelm

1134
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: somebody physically who's not all the way there. Did you

1135
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: see Sean Strickland's quote about training with comsat Chamaiev No.

1136
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: What he said was, if you show up to spar Chamayav.

1137
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: This was Sean Strickland talking that if you don't match

1138
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: his energy, I mean punch for punch and absolutely bite down.

1139
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: He said that guy is gonna fucking steamroll you in

1140
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: the gym. You cannot take a back foot at all

1141
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: against him. But what he said was that guy is

1142
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: perfect as a training partner for me. Strictly, I'm talking

1143
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: about that. He was saying, like, I love having that

1144
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: guy in there because you know, man, the second you

1145
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: don't hit the gas, you're gonna get smushed. So I

1146
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: think he's taken some of that attitude and he's gonna

1147
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: bring it to this fight. I think if your Ayah

1148
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: Hall can reasonably resist that with technical acumen, then we

1149
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: should give Ryah Hall another uh not another chance, per se,

1150
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: but reevaluate what his potential upside could be. But you

1151
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: can't beat the guy like Strickland, as good as he is.

1152
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: You don't have much of a prayer against the guys

1153
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: who are really technical, like your Whittakers and so forth.

1154
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: So big big test for him tomorrow night.

1155
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, sober and fair way to look at it, Luke.

1156
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 2: I'm also JAMIAV like on the microphone, Luke, I will

1157
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: fucking roll over you if you don't bring it all right,

1158
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: all right, bro okay, hold this ship like a grudge, Luke.

1159
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: There's a former UFC champion in the preliminary main event.

1160
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: Without looking at the card? Who is it?

1161
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: Luke? I don't know, I legitimately don't know.

1162
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: Uh. This fighter has a career record of four and three, Luke,

1163
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: who is it?

1164
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: Is Nico Montano in the card? Yes?

1165
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: Yes, she is in the preliminary main event against bantamweight

1166
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: Wu Yan'an. I'm probably butchering that, but shout out to

1167
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: the U, the Chinese born Bandam weight there who's coming

1168
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 2: off a two fight losing skid. Luke, you know, I

1169
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 2: just feel for Nico long term, you know, I just

1170
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: I do. I just feel for her, Luke, You know

1171
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like she upset her way to that

1172
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: tough tournament to get the title shot, and she didn't

1173
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 2: necessarily have to go through a killer to win it,

1174
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: and then she got stripped kind of unceremoniously so that

1175
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 2: Valentina could slide in and fight JJ.

1176
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: What is the hast here fought? She hasn't fought in

1177
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: two years.

1178
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: I know she's been hurt. She lost to Pania in

1179
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: that comeback fight after losing your title. Uh, Luke, I

1180
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: hate to say it. There have been some like in

1181
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: the UFC history some champions that we don't talk about anymore.

1182
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: Dave many right, you know guys like that. Yeahnyay, I'm sorry,

1183
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: Dave Manet. Sorry you take my casual card, take my

1184
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 2: my whatever, you know. But uh, how will we remember

1185
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: Nico Montagno here, Luke, I guess we won't.

1186
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. She's got the two fights, right, She's

1187
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: got one against Mota Ferry, who's a good but somewhat

1188
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: limited fighter, but she she won, and then she has

1189
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: the loss to Pana uh and Payna is a very

1190
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: good fighter. So I don't know what that says. You

1191
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: got a two fights sample, dude. All of her other fights,

1192
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: she's got seven. Her five other fights were in King

1193
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: of the Cage and other regional the may like, you

1194
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: got a really small sample size. So from what we've

1195
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: seen on the Ultimate Fighter and then these two fights, yeah,

1196
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: she looks pretty good, pretty good, but two years removed.

1197
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: Like fuck, if I know, you know, I'm not really

1198
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: here's what I'll say. I'm not ready to just you know, say,

1199
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: oh we should just forget about her. I'm not really

1200
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: ready to do that. But yeah, man, like, if you're

1201
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: gonna do something clock sticking, if.

1202
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: You're gonna come right. Indeed, come on, Luke, that's it.

1203
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 2: I'm not asking you about Brian Barberina or honey, ya ya,

1204
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. Okay, let's roll on all right,

1205
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: like a deoder stick, here we go, Luke. Topic number four,

1206
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: What the hell's going on with Canelo Alvarez? Luke. A

1207
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: lot of reporting these days coming out from the likes

1208
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: of ESPN's My Coppinger. And here's where we're at, Luke.

1209
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: Canelo Alvarez looked to be close to signing the contract

1210
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: to head on over to a PBC on Fox pay

1211
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: per view Mexican Independence Day weekend in September against Caleb

1212
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: plant for the undisputed super middleweight championship. We know Canelos

1213
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: a free agent, Luke, that deal seemed to be at

1214
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: the finish line, and now it is a dead deal

1215
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 2: per Coppinger. Now subsequently, Dan Rayfield, who's an independent journalist

1216
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: these days, Luke has said it's not dead. We'll see

1217
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 2: what happens. But we're seeing few, you know, follow up

1218
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 2: reports saying Canelo offers is frantically looking for an opponent

1219
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: to save that date. We even have light heavyweight sergeikovialf

1220
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: Luke coming out on Instagram and saying I'll fight you

1221
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: in a rematch and I'll fight you for free. Doubt

1222
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: we'll see that, Luke. What has been difficult throughout the

1223
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: Coppinger reporting on this is really trying to figure out

1224
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: what happened. Here's the facts that we sort of think

1225
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: we know. Canelo was going to get a guarantee of

1226
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: forty million, which is a lot bro. Caleb Plant, the

1227
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: IBF champion, was going to get a guarantee of a

1228
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: career high ten million. At the last minute, things fell apart.

1229
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: Some of the rumors or sources speculating here is that

1230
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: PBC wanted to fight Canelo to sign a multi fight

1231
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: deal and he wouldn't do it. It's hard to know

1232
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: who to point the finger at, Luke. Another hiccup on

1233
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: the deal was that Canelo wanted the contract to stipulate

1234
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: that should Plant fall out of the fight, Canelo would

1235
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: still get the guaranteed forty million against any replacement he seemed,

1236
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: you know, adequate, but that it wouldn't be the same

1237
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: if Canelo pulled out. Now, look Aside has its privileges,

1238
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: it always does in boxing history. I don't really know

1239
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: how you can necessarily put all the blame on Canelo here,

1240
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: and I don't really know who's to blame fully, Lue.

1241
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: You can speculate from the PBC point of view if

1242
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: that's true that they're upset the Canelo wouldn't sign another fight.

1243
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: It does make sense. You're essentially taking your unbeaten champion

1244
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: and Plant who Al Haym and a company have done

1245
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: a great job building up right. They put him in

1246
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: pay per view, comin events, or put him live on

1247
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: Fox in front of large audiences. If they give him

1248
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: the Canelo and he loses, then you've lost, you know,

1249
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: l his O and the bell. If they don't do

1250
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: this fight, they can build toward Caleb Plant versus David Benavitez,

1251
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 2: which is a grudge match we all want to see,

1252
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: you know, Jamal Charlow moving up to fight the winner,

1253
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: or sorry, Jamal Charlo moving up to potentially fight the winner.

1254
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: If you're only getting a one off for Canelo with

1255
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: a one night of pay per view, I get the

1256
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: need or the want to to get more from that, Luke.

1257
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: As you look at the facts as we think we

1258
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: know them, do you put fault in any direction besides

1259
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: just saying Oh that's boxing. Here we go. You had it,

1260
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: but you lost it.

1261
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: Fault is a strong word. Fault would be like, I

1262
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: can reasonably blame you for not doing what you were

1263
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: supposed to do, right, that's what blame means. Can you

1264
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: blame Canelo for exercising what appears to be maximum leverage

1265
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 1: because you listen to Caleb Plant, he was saying like, hey,

1266
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: whatever you want, Like, if Canelo loses, he gets a rematch,

1267
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: but if in the clause in the contract. But if

1268
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: if Canelo wins, there's no rematch clause for Caleb. Caleb

1269
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: Plant was like, yeah, fine, you know the money disparity. Fine,

1270
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: he was just willing to concede to everything. But at

1271
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: some point, if you're Canelo and you don't want to

1272
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: sign a two or three or four fight deal with

1273
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: one entity, yes, it would be better for you and

1274
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: me and for boxing at some point if that were

1275
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: to happen, like to get the deal made so that

1276
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: they could go forward with it. But if you're Canelo, dude,

1277
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: you don't owe anybody anything. You know, you don't. Okay,

1278
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: you could say you owe the title defenses if you

1279
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: want to hold the belts or whatever, but you know

1280
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: short of that, what does he owe top rank? What

1281
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: does he owe PBC? What does he owe? DOZ own?

1282
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 1: What does he ow any of these folks? He doesn't

1283
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: own shit. He is a guy who has services that

1284
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: are in high demand if he wants to arrange those

1285
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: services in a way that are most complementary to his interests.

1286
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how you talk somebody out of that

1287
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: short of saying, hey, you should do something that you

1288
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: perhaps don't want to do for someone else's benefit, and

1289
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: there are times when that's a really really important thing

1290
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: to do. Again, if he eventually just avoids Plant to

1291
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: the point where he's not doing his mandatories and this,

1292
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: that and the other, you can begin to say, hey,

1293
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: he is not fulfilling his end of the bargain. And

1294
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: we can say if he avoids plant, you know, avoiding

1295
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: an opportunity to unify this weight class is a giant mistake. Fine,

1296
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: we can say those things, but like, what is the

1297
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: argument that for our benefit and for someone else's benefit,

1298
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: he should again presumably take on a contract whose terms

1299
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: he doesn't like because he's got other plans that doesn't

1300
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how you what's the

1301
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: argument for that, I don't know what it would be.

1302
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: It's tough. So that, you know, if I was going

1303
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: to take the PBC side of this from the facts

1304
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 2: that we think we know, I would say, well, hey, Canelo,

1305
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: when he got out of his Dizone and Golden Boy

1306
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: deal signed with Eddie Hearn and signed him two fight

1307
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: deal with his own right and Eddie Hearn, So why

1308
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: can't you do the same with PBC. But if I'm

1309
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: on Canelo side, I'm like, Canelo didn't say, Hey, Fox,

1310
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: let's do a dual pay per view, you know, with

1311
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: his own He said, I'm a free agent and I'm

1312
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: coming to your network to fight your guy on your

1313
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 2: network's pay per view.

1314
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1315
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: You get you know like that?

1316
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: Also, bc BC correct me if I'm wrong. The two

1317
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: fights were one the Billy Joe Saunders fight, right, was

1318
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: the was the other one was the Callum Smith or

1319
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: was that the Obnegil Dierhramm. Yes, so one of them

1320
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: was just a bullshit mandatory that he was doing to

1321
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: stay busy. Anyway, That's different than you gotta fight Caleb

1322
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: Plant and then some other hammer along the way. It's

1323
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: not the same scenario.

1324
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: Right, he signed a one off deal to fight Colt Smith,

1325
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: then he did the two fight deal which included Yodorum

1326
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: and Saunders. I just say, look, when you're it's so

1327
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: rare in this sport, Luke, that somebody is the POMF

1328
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: for Pound number one and biggest pay per view star, right,

1329
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: it's normally like true, It's sometimes that's close, right, if

1330
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: you're you know, but sometimes you're POMF for Pond one

1331
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: number one, you don't have that same commercial success. Canelo

1332
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: owns this sport by the balls. He could do really

1333
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: bad things with that power. He's basically saying, I will

1334
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 2: come to your network. So I have to side with

1335
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 2: the the A side here if this is true from

1336
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 2: what we know. But I do would understand from my

1337
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 2: business point of view, saying, Okay, if we're gonna give

1338
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: you a plant and his title and his unbeating record,

1339
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: we'd love to have you come back on PBC and

1340
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: fight you know, Jermal Charlow or David Benaviez. Look, I'd

1341
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: love to see that just the same. But boxing is

1342
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: gonna boxing in terms of potential last a minute gets

1343
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: This is gonna be hard, Luke, because Canola wants to

1344
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: come back what the second third week of September, September fifteenth,

1345
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: right around there, and even if it was gonna be planned,

1346
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: even if it was on Fox, that's still a short turnaround,

1347
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 2: Luke to prevent to potentially shoot all that shoulder content

1348
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: and get that fight you know promoted during NFL coverage

1349
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: and all that. We know that Canela wants to go

1350
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 2: to one seventy five. So you hear Dimitri Beevol's name

1351
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: throwing her out there. He fights on to his own.

1352
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: He's got one of those belts. What do you think

1353
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: it happens here?

1354
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the covi V I'll fight for free

1355
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: shit is not on the table, I'll put it that way.

1356
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: The bivil one was interesting because his people were like,

1357
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: we'll do it, but hey, are we gonna do this?

1358
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: Like we need to know now if we're doing this.

1359
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: There's no way to pull in Charlo this late. There's

1360
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: no way to pull in Maybe you could pull in

1361
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: Benevedez this late. I don't know. I don't know, dude.

1362
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: It's bad that it fell apart like this because there

1363
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: was just enough time if everything went through the way

1364
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: it was supposed to, to kind of make it all

1365
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: work in that timeline. But to switch at this moment,

1366
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: I would say he's either gonna fight Bivel or he's

1367
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: just not gonna fight in September, or maybe he'll take

1368
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, is there a bullshit mandatory he could

1369
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: maintain or something.

1370
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe there probably is, But Luke, the sanctioning

1371
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: bodies have done a lot to make it so connect.

1372
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: I mean, the WBC created the idea of that stupid

1373
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: franchise champion just so Canelo wouldn't have to make meaningless

1374
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: mandatories and so they can produce a second belt, which

1375
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: is bullshit.

1376
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that the chances of him fighting

1377
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: in September have dwindled significantly.

1378
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 2: Hey, as Dan Rayfield said, it's not dead yet, Luke.

1379
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 2: Maybe last minute cooler heads will prevail. We'll see what

1380
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 2: happens there, Luke. Our final main topic of this week

1381
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: is a tough one man, Chris Widman, who of course

1382
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: shattered his leg against Ryah Hall, got into a rehab

1383
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: surgery and we've seen a lot of the updated videos

1384
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: of him walking and eventually sparring. Luke, He's gonna need

1385
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 2: surgery again. It didn't work the way it was reconstructed.

1386
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: Do you have more details on this and any analysis.

1387
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's sad, it's hard to see this, but

1388
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: uh damn, what a rough turn of events.

1389
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: So I don't fully understand this. We brought this up

1390
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: because someone brought this to my attention. It's worthy of

1391
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: something significant, I should say, it's worthy of additional investigation

1392
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: or at least looking into it. And I've tried. I

1393
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: can't quite get all the details. But someone told me, well,

1394
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: first of all, here are the facts as we understand them.

1395
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: He has this terrible injury, and he gets the surgery.

1396
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: The surgery itself, where we're told, was successful in the

1397
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: sense that to going back to that area Hajwania might

1398
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: copager debate, you know what defines successful surgery. But in

1399
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: the moment that the surgery was completed, the surgeons did

1400
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: everything that they could at that moment. But of course

1401
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: there is another lag time, especially with the ones like

1402
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: as catastrophic as this, where you don't know if it's

1403
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: gonna take And you know, having lived through what happened

1404
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: to our quarterback here in DC, Alex Smith and all, oh,

1405
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: his initial surgery was a success, and then he got

1406
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: seventeen more of them, right, So, like, what does it

1407
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: even mean to be successful if that's what you have

1408
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: it takes to get back to health. So his boats

1409
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: didn't fuse in the way that they were supposed to,

1410
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: and now he has to go and get additional surgery.

1411
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: But you saw about a month after surgery that he

1412
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: was doing some kind of training and even some kind

1413
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: of light but sparring, and that seemed really inadvisable. I mean,

1414
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm not a scientist, I'm not a doctor, but I

1415
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: don't I don't know of anybody who would reputably recommend

1416
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: doing that. So folks are saying to me, and again

1417
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to find out the details on this.

1418
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: So if anyone has any email us Morning Combat at

1419
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That the folks he went to for

1420
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: not so much the surgery. The surgery was pretty much

1421
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: above board, but that for the additional rehab he elected

1422
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: to take on some folks who are like, again as

1423
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: it was described to me, snake oil salesmen or at

1424
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: least you know, folks who were have alternative methods of treatment.

1425
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: And listen, there are plenty of scenarios where people were

1426
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: gonna want second opinions. There are plenty of scenarios where

1427
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: folks are going to want, you know, doctors. You've been

1428
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: to doctors a million times for you and for your

1429
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: kids and for everyone else you love. Sometimes I can

1430
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: give you really harsh, you know, assessments of your health

1431
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: or your loved one's health in a way that seems

1432
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: almost off putting, and you might want to go and

1433
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: seek other remedies that you feel like could be more

1434
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: welcoming and just sort of fit better with what you

1435
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: how you want to live your life. And I understand that,

1436
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: but you got to go to people who are reputable.

1437
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: You got to go to people who are who follow

1438
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: science in a much more direct, thorough and concrete kind

1439
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: of way. And I just see fighters generally a lot

1440
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: of times seeking out treatment from people who are not

1441
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: in a position to be handing out the treatment that

1442
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: the fighters are seeking from them. And so here you

1443
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: have a case where it's like, dude, who was the

1444
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: guy who recommended doing the physical activities a month after

1445
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: a significant traumatic injury and the surgery subsequently to go

1446
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: and then spar that seems fucking stupid, quite frankly, in

1447
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 1: terms of the kind of advice. So I listen here's

1448
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: what I hope for Wideman. I hope that this surgery

1449
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: is successful in the day that it is provided. I

1450
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: hope the subsequent rehab that goes with it is as

1451
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: speedy as can be. The last thing that any of

1452
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: us want to see is a Chris Widman whose career

1453
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: is either ended or you know, irrevocably changed in the

1454
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: worst kind of way from that fight against Ryah Hall.

1455
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: I think we can all say that out loud. At

1456
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: the same time, if you don't seek out the right

1457
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: people with the right credentials and the right scientific understanding

1458
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: about how to deal with these kinds of moments in

1459
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: your athletic life, it might end up being that that's

1460
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: the last we see and remember of him from those circumstances.

1461
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: So it's troubling, troubling to say the least.

1462
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 2: Wideman suffered the injury in March, not too long after Luke.

1463
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: He was doing some golf outings the light sparring you mentioned,

1464
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,799
Speaker 2: and he did speak with on Wednesday with Syrias XM's

1465
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: MMA today and he said, I'm getting another surgery, most

1466
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: likely on August eleventh. They're going to have to plate

1467
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 2: the fibula bone because I guess it's considered a non

1468
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: un union, so the bones aren't healing the way it's

1469
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: supposed to, which kind of sucks. But I did expect

1470
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,879
Speaker 2: setbacks and some issues with this type of traumatic injury.

1471
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: I've been through a lot. At the end of the day,

1472
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: I'm a positive person to begin with. Not that I

1473
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 2: don't have moments of negativity and just laziness or lack

1474
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 2: of motivation, but I'm usually a glass half full type person,

1475
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: so I think that helps. Luke. He's thirty seven, he's

1476
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 2: a great legend, let's be honest, former champion, but he

1477
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: has lost six of eight dating back to twenty fifteen.

1478
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,839
Speaker 2: I get the competitor and him wanting to almost mirror

1479
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: what Anderson Silva did, which is repair that leg come

1480
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 2: back in almost record time, and kind of act like

1481
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: it never happened. Luke. You know we all want that,

1482
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: but you know, for the rest of his life, Luke,

1483
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: for that sake, I hope he makes the right choices

1484
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: moving forward.

1485
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, all right, we'll see.

1486
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 2: He's got a You know, I've always been a rock

1487
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 2: Hold guy, so I've I've sometimes talked trash about Wideman,

1488
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 2: But when you when we last year that CBS Sports

1489
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: tried to like rank the best in each weight class

1490
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: in UFC history. It's hard not to make him the

1491
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: second greatest Middleway Luke. When you look at the resumes

1492
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 2: and comparamol, it's pretty close.

1493
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: His dude. I remember when he fought on a Wednesday

1494
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: night Mark Muno's when Mark Munhos was like a good, solid,

1495
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, top fifteen ish kind of guy in that division,

1496
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: and Wideman slashed him with the elbow, standing in a

1497
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: way that Munos never saw it coming. Dude, he was

1498
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: such a force when he was healthy and he was

1499
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: on the come up. Chris Wyman was an absolute beast.

1500
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: But I made this point too previously BC. You know,

1501
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: here in DC we had a guy who played for

1502
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: at the time the Skins, Jordan. Go jeez. Now that

1503
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: I've been talking about this guy forever now my brain

1504
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: is not working properly. He was a tight end for

1505
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: a long time.

1506
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1507
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 2: Is his last name Reid. He's from New London, Yes.

1508
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 1: Jordan Reid, Sorry, Jordan Reid. He played at un Niversity

1509
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: of Florida. Memory serves, dude. When he was on, when

1510
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: he was on and he was healthy, he was a

1511
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: fucking animal. Maybe it wasn't as good as as Gronka,

1512
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: but at his best he was top three tight ends

1513
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: in the league. He was athletic, he could catch catch passes,

1514
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: he could juke defenders, he was big, he was strong,

1515
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: but dude, he was constantly injured, not just with concussions,

1516
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: and he had a shit ton of those his every

1517
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: time he got tackled, his shoulder got separated, his knee

1518
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: got injured, and at some point there's just like some

1519
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: people I feel like, and there is some science that

1520
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: support this, they just can't tolerate injury the way other

1521
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: guys can. And I don't know if that's Chris Widman's reality,

1522
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: but what I'll say is there you can't talk about

1523
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 1: the career of Chris Widman without the devastating effect injuries

1524
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: have had, not just on this moment, but prior to this.

1525
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: And maybe some of that's on him training with this,

1526
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: that and the other. I don't know who. I'm not

1527
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: here to play blame. I don't know. All of these

1528
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 1: things are complicated, but there is just no denying how

1529
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: much how good he was and how much injury has

1530
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 1: taken a lot of that away.

1531
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Luke Quick one hitters on the way out here, Luke.

1532
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 2: In the news cycle, I want to get your reaction.

1533
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: Amanda Newness has been pulled from UFC two sixty six.

1534
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 2: That's next weekend, Luke. August seventh, she was expected to

1535
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: defend her title against Julianna Pania. That would be the

1536
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: bantamweight title she has COVID. Luke, Wow, Yeah, your.

1537
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: Thoughts uh terrible. I hope that they're okay. I hope

1538
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal, and I hope they can

1539
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: make that fight again pretty quickly. Some got some as

1540
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: we've seen it, some fighters get COVID. The majority of

1541
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: them get COVID. No big deal. Been a couple like

1542
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: al Donna where it can have some lingering effects code

1543
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: gor rant lingering effects. But again, maybe that won't be

1544
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:31,879
Speaker 1: the case for her, and so I wish her speed recovery.

1545
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 2: Nunas is fresh off of two defenses of her featherweight title,

1546
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: but Luke has not defended the one three five belt

1547
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: since December of twenty nineteen. In the rematch with GDR

1548
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: that we're gonna be coming up on two years, Luke,

1549
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 2: no interim titles for this. We're not gonna do Misha

1550
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 2: Tate versus Penia next week. No, none of that.

1551
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: The problem is the problem is that there's not You

1552
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: can say that the title hasn't been defended recently, but

1553
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 1: with Schevchenko down a division and no other real contender

1554
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: kind of emerging in that time, it's like, Okay, I

1555
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: agree it should have been defended more, but like against who?

1556
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: Who was that person? BC? Show me the person who

1557
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: was denied, right, I don't know who that is.

1558
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: The division was dead as a door now until just

1559
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 2: really a couple of weeks ago, right aspen lads back

1560
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 2: kind of back, Misha Tate's back, so we'll see where

1561
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 2: that goes. Speaking of that division, Luke holly Holm has

1562
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: accepted a new date October sixteenth against Norma Dumont.

1563
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, yeah, curious. I don't have a strong thought.

1564
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: Curious to see what happens. Hopefully she can win and

1565
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: that maybe if maybe she'll get a title shot after that,

1566
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: or maybe Tate can get another win and then you

1567
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: could do that. That's the fight that I want to see.

1568
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: I want to see Tate versus Home too, So whatever

1569
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: gets us closer to that, I'm all in, Well, this

1570
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: is what.

1571
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 2: I was essentially going to ask you, Luke, because Holly

1572
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 2: Holm is thirty nine years old yet's still super elite.

1573
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: But Luke, you know the windows obviously closing to a

1574
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 2: large degree, and you know Dumont's a good fighter thirty

1575
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: years old to fight win streak. Just be Felicia Spencer

1576
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: not trying to say anything there, but what do we

1577
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: gain from this? This division's pretty shallow? Wouldn't you rather

1578
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 2: see Holly Holm be gearing up for the rematch against

1579
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 2: either GDR or Misha Te or you.

1580
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 1: Never know who has turned down who good? You never know,

1581
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: You never know who has been like I don't want

1582
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: that fight right now, and they got to go somewhere else.

1583
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 1: So again, I don't know if exactly that's what happened,

1584
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: but every time you're like, hey, why are we doing

1585
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: this fight that doesn't make any sense, somewhere someone along

1586
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: the way said no to an original plan and then

1587
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: you ended up in this place.

1588
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 2: Breaking news this morning, Luke from a site called nose

1589
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: Helwani Substack the Goat has retired. Artem Lobob is bringing

1590
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,759
Speaker 2: an end to his combat sports career at the age

1591
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: of thirty four. Now, he's fresh off of Bare Knuckle loss.

1592
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: He went two and two overall in bare knuckle fighting.

1593
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 2: His MMA career record thirteen fifteen and one, with one

1594
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 2: note contest. Luky was, of course well known and beloved

1595
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: as a training partner and right hand man to Connor McGregor.

1596
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 2: That got him. You could argue main event fights he

1597
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 2: didn't deserve. At times he was slapped by a beabe,

1598
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: which set up the dolly through the window. How will

1599
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: you remember the thirty four year old goat?

1600
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: I interviewed Lobov a couple of times. I always found

1601
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 1: him to be very friendly, Like I enjoyed talking to him.

1602
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: You know, he was all these fighters, you know, you

1603
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: get him around five time, they're a little bit you know, agro,

1604
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I listen arts and Lobov kind

1605
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,879
Speaker 1: of got a kind of He got a big boost

1606
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: by being associated with McGregor. It lasted for a little

1607
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: while until it didn't. I thought his fight with Cub

1608
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: Swanson was he overperformed and did really well, and obviously

1609
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: he got the winner for Pauly Melanaji like dude. For

1610
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:56,799
Speaker 1: a guy of limited ability relatively speaking, he did really well.

1611
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: He made it pretty far and he got some big

1612
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 1: purses and again relatively speaking, and he was in big

1613
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: main events, and yeah, good for him. So you know

1614
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: the world's best fighter, No, not necessarily that, but someone

1615
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: who was beloved for a time. And you know, frankly,

1616
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: giving us the chew chew motherfuckers was a great moment.

1617
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: I won't forget anytime soon, and I wish him nothing

1618
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: but the best and whatever's next. He probably will have

1619
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: another fight at somewhere along the way. But if this

1620
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: is the end, then hey man for what he was

1621
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: able to do and give him what he had, he

1622
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: did well.

1623
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: He was a great interview, seriously, very fun, honest guy

1624
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: to talk to. He started his career four and six,

1625
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 2: so to turn it around and become somebody Luke is interesting.

1626
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,799
Speaker 2: I mean, he went two and five in the UFC,

1627
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 2: but you know, he made a name for himself in

1628
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 2: his BKFC first fight with Jason Knight. He lost the rematch,

1629
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: but that first one Luke was a absolute war and

1630
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 2: I think Paulie got robbed though. All right. Speaking of

1631
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 2: Paulie Luke, Pauli's reportedly going to be back boxing again

1632
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: on the Celebrity Boxing Tour October second in Miami, when

1633
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 2: he takes On and Corey B, the TikToker and radio

1634
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 2: host who of course attacked Pauli with a handful of

1635
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: Talcolm powder at a recent BYB or whatever the hell

1636
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 2: they call it event. But Luke, that's just the Colemane

1637
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: your main event on October second in Miami. This is

1638
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: Damon Feldman and celebrity boxing lamar Odom versus Riddick Bow

1639
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: and Luke. There's really no way to sugarcoat this, but

1640
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: to say this is this is criminal. This is some

1641
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 2: bullshit right here. I mean as bad enough health wise

1642
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 2: that lamar Odom, for everything he's been in through physically,

1643
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 2: is in a you know, is in a boxing setup.

1644
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: But good god, Riddick Bow at fifty three, Luke, this

1645
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 2: is all sincerity here. Riddick Bow, hall of Famer, former

1646
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion. He's been washed with slurred speech since he

1647
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 2: was like, legitimately twenty eight years old. Luke, he's like

1648
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: fifty three now. Well, I don't know if you saw

1649
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: Ridick Bow's muy Thai fight from a few years ago,

1650
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: it was one of the saddest pieces of video anyone

1651
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: has ever seen. When he put his body out there

1652
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 2: and got sent to hell. Just for whatever cash they

1653
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: could give him. I'm really hoping, Luke, and I don't

1654
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,799
Speaker 2: cheer against any promotion to fail. I'm hoping that somebody

1655
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: steps up, somebody that cares about Bo, a commission member

1656
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 2: of the State of Florida, somebody steps in here and

1657
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 2: stops this from happening.

1658
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: This fight should not happen, exhibition or otherwise, it should

1659
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: not happen. And I know what some might say, Oh well,

1660
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: Bo is probably broken physically, maybe, but he might be

1661
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: broke financially, which I'm sure there's some level of truth

1662
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: to that, if not outright truth, and that if it's

1663
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: an exhibition, it's lamar odom. What's the problem. I don't

1664
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: think folks understand we are talking about a person who

1665
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: shouldn't even have someone lightly push them in the head anymore,

1666
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: much less even a grown man six foot ten six

1667
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: foot eleven, who, however wild and lacking pure boxing skill

1668
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: he may be. I would not want someone with that

1669
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: kind of frankly like he's fragile at this point, getting

1670
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: into any kind of physical altercation exhibition. Otherwise, it to

1671
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: me would be a tragic mistake. The State of Florida

1672
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: should not sanction this in any capacity whatsoever. And frankly

1673
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: the promoter should be ashamed of himself. You should lamar

1674
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 1: odom if you want to book him in a fight,

1675
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: fine exhibition whatever, it can be silly, it can be fine. Yeah, okay,

1676
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: Riddick Bow does not need to be in any place

1677
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 1: in a boxing ring with gloves on in twenty twenty

1678
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: one period.

1679
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: Period end of story. Damon Feldman the promoter there. Luke

1680
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 2: is actually the brother of the promoter of BKFC, who,

1681
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: as we talked about on Wednesday, was you know you

1682
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 2: got Chuck Ladell out there saying if they gave me

1683
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 2: enough money, I'd fight for it. Please both Feldman's stop it. Okay,

1684
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 2: please stop it, Thank you very much, all right, Luke,

1685
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 2: we had teases off the top. We do encourage our

1686
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 2: people to vote for us for the World MMA Awards.

1687
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: Do I have a promo to read nothing and each

1688
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,839
Speaker 2: we good anything?

1689
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

1690
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is World MMA Awards dot Com.

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01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: Hey.

1692
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 2: Look, we used to pedal people to vote for us

1693
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: for some other award too. We don't care about that

1694
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 2: anymore or what?

1695
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, do we?

1696
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. All right. Also, Luke,

1697
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 2: you and I Oh, there we go. Podcast Awards, dot Com,

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01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 2: Slash app, Slash sign Up. Morny Kombat been voted in

1699
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 2: three different categories, including Best Sports Podcast and Best Male

1700
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,919
Speaker 2: Hosted Podcast. We have been nominated for awards. We appreciate

1701
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: the folks at Podcast Awards and also the World MMA Awards.

1702
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 2: Whatever there it is. Thank you so much for your service, Luke. Also,

1703
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 2: here's the deal. They want us to promote bonus mailbag

1704
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 2: episodes that will be coming our way in the near future.

1705
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 2: Why because it is summertime and you and I do

1706
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 2: have some scheduled vacation days off in the month of August,

1707
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 2: so some you'll get some bonus opportunities out there fans

1708
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: to get your questions answered in some pre taped episodes. Look,

1709
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: how should they send in those questions again?

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01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: Morning? Oh well, well, actually, you know what? Do they

1711
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 1: want us to scam the system again?

1712
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, Mikey, what the hell are we doing here?

1713
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: What is this are we scamming? I guess they want

1714
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,799
Speaker 1: us to go leave Apple podcast reviews, where we scam

1715
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: the system by people leaving nice reviews. But what they

1716
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: do is they actually leave questions for the podcast, So

1717
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: keep scamming apple please.

1718
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will get to your question. We'll give you

1719
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 2: some fun. But look, here's the deal, holidays. We give

1720
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: you an episode. Right, even on times that we're off,

1721
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: we give you an episode. Okay, that's what we do.

1722
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 2: We're the best in the game, all right. Sometimes, Luke,

1723
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: we don't do the right things, though, and that's why

1724
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 2: every Friday we have a segment dedicated to that. In fact,

1725
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: Morning Combat at gmail dot com is your email address

1726
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: to send in the things that we got wrong after

1727
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 2: speaking into a microphone for many hours per week.

1728
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 1: It's called did wrong, dead fucking wrong?

1729
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 2: All right, if you're gonna come, you better come on,

1730
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 2: you better come. Original. Here we go. We start off.

1731
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 2: This is from Talal Max and Nima. Wow. Three offenders here,

1732
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 2: they say. During the Wheel of Death segment on Wednesday,

1733
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: July twenty first, BC mentions that Connor McGregor and Jeremy

1734
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: Stevens have a history dating back to their UFC one

1735
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 2: ninety six press conference. But the infamous Hudafuka is that

1736
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: guy moment was actually during the UFC two o five

1737
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:20,520
Speaker 2: press conference and honest mistake by BC, but a mistake. Nonetheless,

1738
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 2: Love the show, guys, and I hope I get the

1739
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: chance to do a live show in the future. Much

1740
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 2: love from Saudi Arabia. Wow, all right, I'll take that.

1741
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: Out of the five presser. I don't know if that

1742
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: is that true.

1743
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 2: I don't think that's true, but they say it is, Luke.

1744
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: I thought.

1745
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: It wasn't two five fight week. They may have been the

1746
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: one talking about like a month or two ahead setting

1747
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: up two o fo. Yeah.

1748
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 2: What did UFC used to call those press conferences they

1749
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 2: do where they get people that are going to be

1750
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 2: on fight cards forli like the next few months and

1751
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 2: they all bring them in together.

1752
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget what. They stopped doing it since COVID,

1753
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not sure this is the right one,

1754
01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 1: but maybe it is.

1755
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 2: All right. I thought it was the one where he

1756
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 2: went face to face with OURDA and ripped him. Maybe

1757
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, Maybe this was the original Eddie one. I'll

1758
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 2: take the l I'll research this and get back to you.

1759
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 2: If not, you got you got some come up and

1760
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: you gotta receipt coming Saudi Rabio. Okay, all right, Luke,

1761
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 2: let's keep it going. Michael and Adam both sliding it

1762
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: up at about an hour into the latest live chat

1763
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: of Luke Thomas episode eighty two. He erroneously stated that

1764
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 2: brock Lesner made his MMA debut against Minsu Kim at

1765
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 2: the Dynamite Show at the Rolls Bowl, when it was

1766
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: in fact held at the LA Memorial Coliseum. I was

1767
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: actually there with your boy RJ. Clifford. I remember this

1768
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 2: event vividly because this is where uf USC football star

1769
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: Johnny Morton got knocked unconscious on the field. He dominated

1770
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 2: a fighter test positive for meth and there was also

1771
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: a media tent with full on booze buffet. Wow. Wow.

1772
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: Also Saku Raba got robbed by the judges against the

1773
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 2: juice up hoist Gracie. Amazing night of fights and the

1774
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 2: most fun I've ever had had an event. But you

1775
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: are dead wrong.

1776
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, that's a good correction.

1777
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 2: Johnny Morton also pop for steroids in that fight, Luke,

1778
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: and he got none.

1779
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: Not just steroids, multiple steroids.

1780
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, a Jean Pascal cocktail of yes of horse piss. Yes,

1781
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: all right. Brad slides in and says, hey, the dead

1782
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 2: wrong here happened Friday, July twenty third, At forty eight

1783
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 2: minutes and twenty five seconds. Luke asks if Terrence Crawford

1784
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 2: is thirty five, and BC replies that he is thirty four. However,

1785
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: Crawford is thirty three. He was born on September twenty eighth,

1786
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven. Great show and US boxing fans love

1787
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 2: the boxing talk. Hey, how about that, Luke? All right, Brad,

1788
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 2: I'll take that out, all right, good, thank you, Thank

1789
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 2: you Brad for watching. All Right, here we go. This

1790
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 2: is from eric A, Hi BC and Team Wolf's Dad.

1791
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 2: At one thirty six twenty five of episode one eighty

1792
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 2: five this past Wednesday, Brian incorrectly says that Antonio Etanina

1793
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: Chevchenko is in the UFC strawweight division, despite also saying

1794
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: that she's in the same division as Valentino the one

1795
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five pound chap Perhaps Brian was more

1796
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: interested in the chef Chenko's other assets, like their coach. Oh.

1797
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's fair, right, I mean, the

1798
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,919
Speaker 2: former is fair of the latter, but you call it out, Pavel,

1799
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 2: right there, Come on, he says. I used to jump

1800
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 2: around between various MMA shows and channels, but this is

1801
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 2: the one that is most consistently entertaining and leveled MK

1802
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 2: eric A. Eric A also adds, Hey, Luke, can you please

1803
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: unblock me on Twitter? I was sarcastically making fun of

1804
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 2: John Jones, and I guess it wasn't clear under Luke's

1805
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 2: shoey tweet. I said something like, I can't believe you'd

1806
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: do something so horrible. Thank God. I'm a John Jones fan,

1807
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,719
Speaker 2: I'm double vaxed, and I work out without gloves at

1808
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: Ice Cold Takes Mma. Luke, it's Friday? Will you do this,

1809
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 2: bastard of solid?

1810
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: I really feel like we should do Twitter court where

1811
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: they have to argue their case more of a scaly What

1812
01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: is it?

1813
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 2: Ice cold takes Cold Takes Mma? His name is eric A.

1814
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: It'school takes Mma.

1815
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: You say, right, yep, he's double vaxed, he works out

1816
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 2: without gloves, and he claimed he wasn't making fun of you.

1817
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 2: He was making fun of John Jones and you just.

1818
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: All right, you know he is Uh, he's unblocked, all right.

1819
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: Luke, Let's let's deal with what he's saying here, though,

1820
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 2: I'll take the l Yes, I said strawweight, I meant flyweight,

1821
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 2: flyweight one twenty five right, yes, okay, but Luke, he says,

1822
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 2: perhaps Brian was more interested in their other assets like

1823
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 2: their coach. Is there any call for this to call

1824
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: out Pavel? Pavel took a bullet for Valentina quite literally, Luke.

1825
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that video?

1826
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 1: I have? Yeah, it's crazy in Peru.

1827
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he took a bullet for her. Dude, he's

1828
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 2: been coaching those two girls since they were you know,

1829
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: come on, bro, come on, He's not this Saint Larry Nassa, Right.

1830
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: I think we should move on.

1831
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. That is fair, Luke. Okay, that is fair. Hey, Luke.

1832
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 2: We always closed the show with an HR call. No,

1833
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 2: just kidding. We closed the show, Luke with a tip

1834
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 2: to tip where we get of a high five, a

1835
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: suggestion whatever? Run the graphic all right?

1836
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 1: By the way, did we didn't put on here? Very quickly,

1837
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 1: someone tweeted me and I sent it to you guys.

1838
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: I guess in a previous iteration of the show, and

1839
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 1: I remember saying it, but I remember which episode it

1840
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: was where I was like waiting waiting till you see

1841
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,879
Speaker 1: the World MMA Awards. Ultimate Fighter is gonna get nominated

1842
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: and Morning Combat won't. Not only did the Ultimate Fighter

1843
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: not get nominated? MK did so, I'm gonna dead wrong

1844
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: myself with that one. I was being a little too gloomy.

1845
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Did we have a rock that, Luke? Didn't we have?

1846
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: I have the tweet somewhere. All right, let me see,

1847
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: let me see, I saw you guys last night.

1848
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 2: It's from Charlie Menado. At Charlie Menado, he says at

1849
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas News. The entire dead Wrong segment needs to

1850
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 2: be about how the Ultimate Fighter would win the World

1851
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: MMA Awards in Morning Combat winning get nominated just five

1852
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 2: minutes of that. All right, Charlie, you're right, You're right.

1853
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: Luke's wrong. Luke, You're dead wrong.

1854
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm dead wrong. I you know what, BC, I

1855
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 1: told you. I'm so used to shit going wrong in

1856
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: my life. I don't even I don't even know who

1857
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: I am when it's working. I'm like, how does this

1858
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 1: make sense? I don't, I'm I'm disoriented.

1859
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 2: So I'm wrong, Luke, show me your tip please?

1860
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: Uh? Okay. So my tip is just because I think

1861
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: it's kind of cool, kind of fun, and also, you know,

1862
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fucking cool and fun is anymore,

1863
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 1: but I try. Arnold Swarzenegger, my personal hero, has been

1864
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: my hero since I was a little kid. He is

1865
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: selling merch. You can get it on represent dot com.

1866
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: He has his own section. He's got tons of stuff

1867
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 1: in there. Jesus Christ, he's got tons of stuff in there.

1868
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: And uh, this latest one is a shirt he's selling.

1869
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see it or not.

1870
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and hold it up here. Yes, Barbarian,

1871
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean that is just a fucking cool ass shirt.

1872
01:28:57,040 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: He's got a camberd bar there with skulls going through

1873
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 1: the nose and eyes. And you can get it. And

1874
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: he's got it. You can get hoodies, you can get

1875
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Schwarzenegger is the man. He's always been

1876
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: the man in my house. I've got a look at this.

1877
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: I've got a Dutch action figure from Predator right here,

1878
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: never been opened. Look at that. I've got a whole

1879
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: giant poster of him that I turned into artwork here

1880
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: on the other side of my wall, him in one

1881
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: of his poses from the Olympia. I'm a Schwarzenegger mark.

1882
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: So if you're a Schwarzenegger mark too, go get it.

1883
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 2: Tour false And I know this is uncomfortable. You once

1884
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 2: told me if I had to give file a show

1885
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 2: to one man, it would be Schwarzenegger. You did to

1886
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 2: tour false You said that over text one time.

1887
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: Well, I will certainly never volunteer to do something like that,

1888
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: but I guess, you know, force into some kind of

1889
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: hypothetical scenario where it was required. He'd be my number

1890
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: one go to.

1891
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: Yes, the way, the true way to honor him would

1892
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 2: be to probably have an affair with your housekeeper, Luke.

1893
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: But I know you won't do that, Uh, Luke? That

1894
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 2: he looks like he man in that T shirt? So

1895
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 2: what came first? Chicken, a rigg, he man or Conan?

1896
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,680
Speaker 1: In my like in my world, no who came up

1897
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: for a man by virtue of who will appealed to?

1898
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 1: But like the first time I ever idealized idolized someone

1899
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: was was Schwartz nigger.

1900
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 2: Okay, he looks a little he manish in that drawing,

1901
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 2: but it was a very good T shirt, Luke. My

1902
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 2: tip this week is a is a farewell to a boxer.

1903
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 2: I enjoyed a lot. Do you remember the top bloke?

1904
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 2: The thirty three year old from England, the twenty twelve

1905
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: Olympic gold medalist. Luke Campbell not only does cousin Luke

1906
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 2: have a very Morning Combat esque name, combining ltnbc's together.

1907
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 2: But Luke, I've always been a big fan of this

1908
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 2: South Paul bloke, Luke Campbell, who fought in and around

1909
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 2: the lightweight division throughout his pro career. Turnpro in twenty thirteen,

1910
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 2: and you may remember his last fight, Luke. It was

1911
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 2: January of this year when he knocked down unbeaten Ryan Garcia,

1912
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 2: and Garcia, of course, courageously got up, fought back and

1913
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 2: stopped a good old cousin Luke to the body. Luke.

1914
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 2: I tend to stop and applaud people who get out

1915
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 2: of the combat game on their own terms when they

1916
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 2: feel they've they've had enough and when they feel, you know,

1917
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 2: they've gone as bout as far as they can. And

1918
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 2: at age thirty three, this is a guy who's gone

1919
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 2: so close getting to the title level. Luke. I don't

1920
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 2: know if you remember his twenty seventeen lightweight title fight

1921
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 2: with Jorge Lenaris. It was a week after his father died.

1922
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 2: He kept that fact close to his chest and didn't

1923
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 2: let anybody know, and he fought a hell of a fight,

1924
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 2: losing a twelve round split decision to Lenaris. He came

1925
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 2: back against Lomachenko in twenty nineteen and put on a

1926
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 2: very good showing, losing a decision there, and of course

1927
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 2: we just saw him loose to Ryan Garcia in that

1928
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:43,640
Speaker 2: non title bout. Luke was ever able to equal his

1929
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 2: amateur success on the pro level, but he came pretty

1930
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 2: darn close. He wore a lunch pail in the ring.

1931
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 2: He was a very good boxer, toughest nails and Luke.

1932
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 2: When someone at thirty three says I've had enough, I'm

1933
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 2: gonna pack it up now, I'm gonna applaud them on

1934
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 2: the way out. A big fan of this kid, been

1935
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 2: you know, dming him through the years and give him

1936
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: a shout out here and there. Goodbye after a very

1937
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 2: fun career, Luke Campbell, Luke. I don't know what it

1938
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 2: is about the guys from the UK, but it seems

1939
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 2: more often than not it is the English blokes that

1940
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,919
Speaker 2: know when they've had enough. We saw Ricky Hatton retire

1941
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 2: really early after the knockout loss to pak Yah. We've

1942
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 2: seen this before, but I always respect this a lot

1943
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 2: more than hanging on too long and needing to be

1944
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 2: removed from the game.

1945
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty three, if it feels early, then it's right

1946
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 1: on time. Good for him, good career, had some big wins,

1947
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 1: had some big fights. Some people lost, some he won,

1948
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: but put it on the line. Thirty three is still

1949
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 1: good time to preserve your health and transition to something else.

1950
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: I wish him nothing but the best.

1951
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: Ad wins over our Hennis Mendez was a world champion

1952
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 2: Darly's Perez. He avenged his pro loss to amateur rival

1953
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 2: Yvon Mendi, which was a disputed split decision, So never

1954
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 2: got over that final hurdle, but it was always a

1955
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 2: big FANCI shout out to you, Luke. Luke Thomas, you

1956
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 2: have anything else to clear up on the way out here.

1957
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: No, I'm being told that the fight between the guy

1958
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: I used to train with and who's making his Bell

1959
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: Tour debut is off. I guess he did not, for

1960
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: whatever reason pass pre fight medicals, So the fight between

1961
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: Compton and Barry is off, all right? That is uh,

1962
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: that sucks.

1963
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 2: I'm also told by many of our fans speaking of

1964
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 2: dead wrong Luke, that when you said on Wednesday Pat

1965
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 2: Barry was not black, meaning he couldn't be brothers with

1966
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 2: this guy, people are saying that Pat Berry is in fact,

1967
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 2: so you can.

1968
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: Yes, Pat Barry even messaged me.

1969
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,759
Speaker 2: He WHOA, what dude, how did this get to Pat Berry?

1970
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 4: WHOA?

1971
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 1: Someone someone told him? And here's the thing, I'm dead

1972
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: wrong for it. I legitimately just did not know. I

1973
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: thought I could have sworn. He just wasn't. I just

1974
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 1: didn't know. And that's on me, obviously, my fault. And

1975
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: someone told him, and so we were on Instagram. We

1976
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: talked very briefly about it, and he was cool. He

1977
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 1: was totally cool about it. He was like, if I

1978
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: grew my hair out, I'd throw it out for you.

1979
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 1: It would be a lot clearer. But because he has

1980
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: the shaved head and obviously he doesn't have the darkest

1981
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: complexion you've ever seen, it was a little bit I

1982
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't know. I didn't know. But wrong, totally wrong.

1983
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: He is a full fledged member. So there you go.

1984
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 2: Act respect to Pat Barry. Respect. I mean, the fight

1985
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 2: with check Congo Luke is insane in the membrane.

1986
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: Right, It's one of the most insane fights I've ever seen.

1987
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 2: All right, And uh, you know, his wife's the boutest

1988
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 2: motherfucker in the world, Luke.

1989
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: Yes, she's one of them all. Right.

1990
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 2: I guess we're just lingering here for no reason, Luke,

1991
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 2: check out of course, Belitoer two sixty three, Saturday night,

1992
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 2: ten pm Eastern on Showtime pit Bull McKee. Get your

1993
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 2: thirty days free right now, Showtime dot Com slash what

1994
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 2: Luke something?

1995
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Uh, it's you can go to Showtime dot Com or

1996
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: you can go to show dot Com, Slash Belt or MMA.

1997
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 2: Either way, Okay, get your thirty day free trial. This

1998
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 2: is the one that's it's really worth it, guys. Okay,

1999
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 2: so get on board with that. Check us out today three,

2000
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 2: you know, four pm Eastern Time on the Showtime Sports

2001
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 2: and Bill Tour Social channels. Luke myself for Shot Evans.

2002
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 2: We will be hosting the ceremonial way in coverage, Luke,

2003
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 2: Are they gonna put hands on each other? Is? Uncle?

2004
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:25,640
Speaker 1: Scott and Boker told Nolan King of MMA Junkie that

2005
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 1: they're going to hire extra security, so I doubt it.

2006
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, we will see what happens. Should be high

2007
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 2: theater right there, special thanks to our great crew Mikey

2008
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 2: Morms men each, Sally Al Wendling, right, Pierre Geffney, Pierre,

2009
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 2: all our good folks right there. The Ghost of j

2010
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 2: Aaron Love our team right there, follow us like us

2011
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 2: all that shit. I'm done. I'm done, Luke, Go ahead, go.

2012
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 1: Ahead, four Showtime, four CBS Sports for Malka, for Brian

2013
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 1: Campbell to King Connecticut. I'm Luke Thomas. Join us at

2014
01:35:56,720 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 1: four pm for the weigh ins, East Coast Time and

2015
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: until next time, may all of your gains be loyal,