1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: I just got one question for everybody. Would we have 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: played yesterday if Ellas here was the number seven seed? 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: And I bet you all the money you want to 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: bet on that deal? Put another log five. Nobody here 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: is getting time. Welcome to the fire Pit with Matt Chinella. 6 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Before we get back to Devin Browse, head coach of Purdue, 7 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: and the very sad set of circumstances and decisions that 8 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: led to the canceling of an n C Double A 9 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Division one women's golf regional in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, we 10 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: start with some appreciation for John Ashworth, co creator of 11 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: Link Soul, a brand that inspires the fire Pit Collective 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: to chase down meaningful stories. 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So I mean, 22 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: I think it's it's very uh, I mean, it's very 23 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: important to humanity. I always go back to that. It's 24 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: it's like this thing you can always go back to 25 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: um and I'm just glad. I mean, I feel like 26 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: there's the golf world and everything the other world. They 27 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: go parallel. And that's why even through COVID, I mean, 28 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: it's such a positive thing through COVID because it allows 29 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: people to get outside. You can easily keep your distance, 30 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: and it's positive also positive. Go to link soul dot 31 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: com and use promo code fire Pit off your next purchase. 32 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: So I can assume you've seen it by now. The 33 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: video of a guy walking down some stairs puts his 34 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: hand on his chest and like a fire breathing dragon, 35 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: torches the hopes and dreams of an innocent gathering of 36 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: female athletes. The dragon is the n C Double A, 37 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: in this case in the form of Brad Hurlbut, an 38 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: athletic director of Farley Dickinson, who, from what I'm told, 39 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: volunteers for this particular n C Double A committee which 40 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: was running a five day regional tournament at the University 41 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: Club home to the l s U Tigers. A few 42 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: relevant facts. The tournament consists of eighteen teams, five girls 43 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: per teen plus there were some competing as individuals. COVID 44 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: testing started Saturday, May eight, practice round on Sunday May nine, 45 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: then three days Monday through Wednesday, fifty four holes of 46 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: stroke played to determine who advances. In tracking down the 47 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: story of how and why the women's golf regional in 48 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: Baton Rouge was canceled and six teams and three individuals 49 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: will be going on to play for a national championship 50 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: without ever hitting a shot. I started with a call 51 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: to Andrew Hobner. He's a sports director at k e 52 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: z I nine News, which covers both Oregon, the four 53 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: seed in this tournament, and Oregon State, who was the 54 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: seventh seed. The problem with this, more broadly is that 55 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: this is the third n C Double A women's tournament 56 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: in four months where there has been some degree of 57 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: controversy in some way reform. You had the weight room 58 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: issue with the women's basketball tournament. Um there was a 59 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: dust up at the n C Double A women's volleyball 60 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: tournament where they weren't going to air the first round 61 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: or first two rounds of the tournament and weren't going 62 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: to send broadcast teams out to Omaha to air it 63 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: at all until there was so much outcry that the 64 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: n C Double A and the ESPN decided to pivot 65 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: and said, Okay, we're actually going to stream these on 66 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: ESPN three. And then you end up with this um 67 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: and it just it just tracks this long line now 68 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: that we've seen this year where it just doesn't seem 69 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: like these women's tournaments are enough of a priority that 70 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: they're willing to work hard enough for him, and it's playing, 71 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, a pretty decent amount of inequity in the system. 72 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: My second call was to Devon Browse, who coached the 73 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: University of North Carolina men's golf team for twenty four years, 74 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: which included recruiting and coaching Davis Sloan the third and 75 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: he has been the head of golf operations at Perdue 76 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: for twenty two years, coaching both men and women for 77 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: fifteen years and only the women for the last six years. 78 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: There's only one golf coach in the United States. It's 79 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: in both the Men's Coaches Hall of Fame and the 80 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: Women's Coaches Hall of Fame. Only one I asked coach 81 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: Browns coming in at an eleven seat, how he felt 82 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: about his chances going into last week. I felt very good. 83 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: I felt very good. My team one of my best players, 84 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: most talent players for the first time this spring semester. 85 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: She's excited about playing and she's motivated, and she wants 86 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: to go play in Nationals. Because when we played last 87 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: at Arkansas, she was once a lead, gone final round, 88 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: and she kind of she kind of gagged it, but 89 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: she understands that she was right there and and she 90 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: wanted another crack at it. She is inez Onuana Marta, 91 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: a senior who was born in Indonesia. Like the quality 92 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: of the management of the whole tournament right before it started, 93 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: had already seen a little bit off personally speaking, because 94 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: I had played in the regionals my freshman year and 95 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: my sophomore year, and my my sophomore year we had 96 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: made it to nationals um So you know, this is 97 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: not the first regional tournament that I've been in. You know, 98 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: I've seen it done a couple of different ways. But 99 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: of course, like considering with COVID and everything, they've done 100 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: things a little bit different. You know, you they have 101 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: all these tents, you have COVID testing. UM. But even 102 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: that in itself from the beginning already seemed a little 103 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: bit confusing. A lot of people didn't know where they 104 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: needed to go. Um. You know, sometimes you were required 105 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: to wear your tags. Sometimes nobody asked you about it. UM. 106 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: So it just seemed like some people didn't really know 107 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: what they were doing. UM, And it just seemed like 108 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: a little bit of a confusing situation in general. I 109 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: also spoke to Garrett Chadwell, husband to Stacy Lewis of 110 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: the LPGA. Chadwell is the head coach of the University 111 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: Houston who came in as an eight seed. You know, 112 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: we hosted an event this year right after we had 113 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: no electricity nowhere any water for a week, and we 114 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: found a way to get it down and we're playing. 115 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: We're playing because we've committed to these teams for a 116 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: year to come in and play an event. Because your 117 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: days of competition matter. You can't just if we cancel 118 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: our event, then where are they going to find another 119 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: tournament to play last minute? You can't. And I spoke 120 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: to Charlie Ewing, who, after being an assistant men's coach 121 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: at Mississippi State for three years, became the women's coach. 122 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: In December, they were the twelve seed. Going back to 123 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: the later part of last week, Thursday, Friday, the days 124 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: that were apparent to leave for the golf tournament. Work 125 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: together as a team, you start putting together in it tanerary. 126 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: You look at the forecast um and of course anybody 127 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: that that plays golf are familiar with golf, you know 128 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: that a forecast is obviously a very big part of 129 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, planning for a trip, especially when you're playing 130 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: in the southeast in the springtime. Coach Browse starts this story. 131 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: Sunday was the practice round. We had a coaches meeting 132 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: the afternoon. Brad gets all the coaches up there and 133 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: he says, Okay, we've got a bad weather forecast here 134 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: the next three days. I just want to alert everybody that, 135 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, we lose a day, it's a thirty six 136 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: old tournament. If we lose two days, obviously it's an 137 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: eighteen old tournament. If we lose three days, and we've 138 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: got to use the original seeds to advanced teams. So 139 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: there's a little discussion about that. But nobody in the 140 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: right mind thought we were going to have that kind 141 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: of rainfall. But Monday morning, sure enough, we had a 142 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: inch and a half just Monday morning one of March 143 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: with more so Monday, our first day, we had actually 144 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: gone down for breakfast at seven thirty. A coach likes 145 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: to get us a little bit early UM out there, 146 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: so we had we had had breakfast at seven thirty, 147 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: and right about the time when we were supposed to 148 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: leave UM for the golf courses, which was closer to 149 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: eight o'clock, we were informed that we had a delay. UM. 150 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: And at first it was just oh, it's an hour delay. Uh, 151 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, we'll be pushing back the time UM. But 152 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: then about fifteen minutes later our coaches told us just 153 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: stay in your rooms, will come up with an update 154 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: as soon as possible. Here's coach Ewing, absolutely totally understand. 155 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: There's lightning in the area, there's a lot of rain, 156 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: there's probably some some pulling on the brains and stuff. 157 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: So I don't think there's anybody that has a problem 158 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: with not taking off on time on Monday morning. UM. 159 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: But where everything really started to get uncomfortable is is 160 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: that the day was canceled at noon. UM. And I 161 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: looked at UM, you know, official sunset was seven UM. 162 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: So the golf was canceled seven hours and forty six 163 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: minutes before the sunset. So I would imagine you're looking 164 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: at seven a half to eight hours before you would 165 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: have to come off the golf course for darkness. Nicole 166 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: Schroeder is a fifth year senior at Oregon State who 167 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: came back this year to make up for the year 168 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: she lost due to COVID. I can't tell you where 169 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: this came from, but somebody saw and heard from the 170 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: maintenance stuff on Monday that they were out there working 171 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: and pumping the course and the pumping waters from the 172 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: bunkers on Monday afternoon, and then two o'clock hit and 173 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: their shift ended and they went home and they just 174 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: left the golf course day afternoon. UM. And so that 175 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: was one that hurt me as well, that it's just like, 176 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: are they really doing everything in their power? Are they 177 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: really doing all of the extract to make it possible 178 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: for us to play? And when I heard that, I 179 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: said no. So now it's Monday afternoon, the sun popped out. 180 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: In my opinion, we could have easily played nine holes 181 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: money maybe more. We had we had six six to 182 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: seven hours that were was playable, and you know, they 183 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: had this they were pushing this agenda the whole week 184 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: that it's not a championship golf course if it's saturated. 185 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: The predue team actually had had We had some discussion 186 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: and the coaches decided to take us to a local 187 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: golf course nearby. I think it's about fifteen minutes away, um, 188 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: and we had actually managed to go hit some balls, 189 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: hit some chips, roll some pots. I mean, obviously we 190 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: understood that it was really wet, um, but you know, 191 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: it was doable. We could do it in a local 192 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: golf course. There was actually the local golf course was 193 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: open to play. They had players playing on that local 194 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: golf course. So we end up going to Top Golf 195 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: as a way to you know, kind of try to 196 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: entertain the team, but as well as getting competitive reps. 197 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: Uh you know you're not competitive, Sorry to get golf 198 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: reps in. You know, make some golf swings, have a 199 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 1: good afternoon, enjoy yourself. A lot of the teams in 200 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: the golf tournament were there. Um. So we find ourselves 201 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: at Top Golf at about two thirty in the afternoon 202 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: and it's eighty five and sunshine. I don't know what 203 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: you would consider it a championship level golf course, Like, 204 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: what is the whole point of the game as you 205 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: play it? As you lies and everyone plays the same 206 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: golf course, you know, So that's how I see. I've 207 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: been playing it for fifteen years competitively for ten years 208 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: at this point, and you know, maybe it's not ideal, 209 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: but I would prefer that then not playing at all. 210 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: I just you know, the coaches were upset about that. 211 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: They were trying to get the guy who was a 212 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: tournament director, drew somebody from l s U to communicate, 213 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: set the coaches down, talk to him. Nothing. They were 214 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: like this committee. I thought that there their deal was 215 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be top secret. They would not they would 216 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: not talk to us. And so you know, I'm listening 217 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: to a lot of other coaches. I'm pretty laid back, 218 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: and I'm not really I'm not really because I've been 219 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: through it so many times. You know, you're you're not 220 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: going to fix these kind of issues with a with 221 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: a committee that's running a golf tournament. UM. I have 222 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine from junior golf who was 223 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: after on the rules committee, UM, and I was talking 224 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: with him and it was very odd, just because he's 225 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: usually someone that's just chit chatty and will give me 226 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: all of the u all the information, and he didn't 227 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: say anything, and he was just sticking with the same thing, 228 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: of course not playable, or then they changed to be 229 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: it's playable, but not to a champion riationship level, which 230 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: there's another whole thing of what does that mean? That's 231 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: that's the phrase that we've never heard before. Is this 232 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: a new definition? Is this a new phrase? Like? I 233 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: don't know. So it's just it was just really strange 234 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 1: and something that I've never ever experienced anything like this 235 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: in my ten plus years of competitive golf alone, five 236 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: years of Division one Power five college golf. Like it 237 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: was just it was just very weird, very weird experience 238 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: all around. I actually felt like if the tournament was 239 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: shortened at thirty six sols, or actually thought it brought 240 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: the field closer together. I thought it put some pressure 241 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: on those top seeds, and I just saw the odds 242 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: of my team advancing increasing it at all these junctions, 243 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: so to speak, And so I was pretty laid back. 244 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: But finally I got tired of hearing of all the 245 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: coaches complain and bitch and moaning, and I said, well, 246 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go talk to Brad. I actually sent Brad 247 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: an email UH that morning, and I said, Brad, can 248 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: I write a letter of petition for the n C 249 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: double A to petition for an extra day so we 250 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: can play on Thursday. No answer, no answer, no answer. 251 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: I sent Drew a couple text messages and emails. No answer, 252 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: no answer, no answer. And so I went upstairs and 253 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: here they are all circled around. There's nobody around around. 254 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to Drew because and I wanted 255 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: to find out from Brad why he didn't answer my email. 256 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: But anyway, I want to talk to Drew because Drew 257 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: had kind of I have a lady assistant, Kristen, who's 258 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: a good assistant, but Drew kind of blew her off 259 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: a couple of times when she was asking for some 260 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: yard each books and I just didn't really understand why 261 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: he was doing that and why he wouldn't community communicating 262 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: with the coaches. Drew is Drew alta Villa l s 263 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: Us event manager. I said, Drew, can you just step 264 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: out here on the on the porch first, I can, 265 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: and and let me let me ask you a couple 266 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: of questions, he says, no, Coach Browse, if you've got 267 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: something to say, you say it in front of the 268 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: whole community committee. Well, you know, like I said, I'm 269 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: usually a pretty laid back guy, but if somebody starts 270 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: getting in my face and challenging me, I can go 271 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: the other way. And so I said, well sure, And 272 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: so I just kind of walked right over into the 273 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: middle of the group. And they're eight of them surrounding me. 274 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: There are no other coaches around. I mean, it's it's 275 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: kind of me against the world. And so I'm just saying, 276 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, what is going on? Why are you delaying 277 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: this thing un till ten o'clock tomorrow? The courses saturated. 278 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: The superintendent should be out there mowing greens this afternoon. 279 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: This is Monday afternoon, getting it ready in case, you know, 280 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: we get some more rain overnight or tomorrow morning. He 281 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: can't mow. Let's go. We gotta we gotta, we gotta 282 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: start peacing this this championship together as best we can. 283 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: And so Tina had rules official lady steps up and 284 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: she says, well, coach browse the bunkers. I mean, she's 285 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: right in my face she says the bunkers are hazardous 286 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: for the for the players to enter the way they 287 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: are right now. I said, what do you mean there, hazardous? Yeah? 288 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: She said, well there, it's dangerous in those bunkers. You know, 289 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: some of them are full of water, owners like they 290 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: might slip and fall or something. I said, Tina, I said, 291 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: that is absolutely b s. I said, just circle a bunker, 292 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: take it out of play. If that's the issue, I said, 293 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: we should be playing eight o'clock tomorrow. Tina Thatcher is 294 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: a volunteer on the committee, and Coach Browse wasn't done 295 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: with true when I said, Drew, you have done a 296 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: lousy job of communicating to these coaches and and I'd 297 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: like for you to do better job. And and you 298 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: know what, it's up to you. If you want to 299 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: disrespect these coaches and ignore their messages and not sit 300 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: down with them and explained to them what's going on, 301 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: that's up to you. But I just think that's wrong, 302 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, to be honest with you, we didn't acknowledge 303 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: it as a team because we were very hopeful and 304 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: optimistic to play golf and we wanted to be ready 305 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: for that. But it's no secret that the pessimism started 306 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: to creep in that if we weren't playing on Monday, Um, 307 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: if if the effort was not you know, put out 308 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: there to play golf Monday afternoon, how could we expect 309 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: that the effort was going to be able to play 310 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: on Tuesday afternoon and Wednesday afternoon and the forecast looks similar. 311 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: We've hosted four origionals that Purdue. We've hosted two n 312 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: C dol A championships to Purdue that I've been in 313 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: well off with personally. We hosted when I was at 314 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: Chapel Who we hosted a men's championship at Pineers number two. 315 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: So I've been involved in in the kinds of things. 316 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: And if your facility and the host school is not 317 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: all in, I mean, it can really come off half bait. 318 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: And that's that's where uls You comes off in my opinion. 319 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: Elis Hugh's head coach is Garrett Runyan, who did not 320 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 1: return my request for an interview, Neither did anybody at 321 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: the University club. I'm from Indonesia. Originally I had three 322 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: other girls playing from three different schools and this was 323 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: their first ever regional and they were asking me like, oh, 324 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: is this what regionals is like. And I'm like, no, 325 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: this is not what regionals is like, and it should 326 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: never be like this, you know. And so how do 327 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: you explain to someone whatever I have been there? You know, 328 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: it's really hard to explain. I hate to play the 329 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: gender card, but that is just what's going on here. 330 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: Women's golf hasn't gotten there yet. We've made a lot 331 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: of progress in the last few years, but they're still 332 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: not there. I told Beth Anne from Golf Week, Um, 333 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: I said, you know, we got a long way to go. 334 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: So um, in your mind, if this is men, it 335 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: it's totally different story, I think. So I've bent a 336 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: lot of both. And for example, Monday afternoon, they should 337 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: be groom in the course. They should be we should 338 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: be playing nine holes, but they closed the practice ground 339 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: the whole day. The whole afternoon practice truands closed. You know, 340 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: who's at the back of the range heading into the 341 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: same range that that we we used the l s 342 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: U men's team. And the next morning the exact same 343 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: thing happens, where we come down for breakfast at eight o'clock, 344 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: rolls around and they're like, yeah, we're going to have 345 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: to delay it for another hour, and so at this 346 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: point we're just sitting there thinking, Okay, well it's it's 347 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same thing. You know, we're just 348 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to wait until we hear an update. And 349 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: so it's the same thing. It's just we're waiting in 350 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: our rooms. We're not hearing anything, and the coaches like, 351 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: one hour after another hour, they're like, we're still waiting 352 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: to hear back from the committee. They're still not telling 353 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: us anything. You don't burn daylight when you're trying to 354 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: piece together a championship. You just you can't afford to 355 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: do it. You can't delay the day before and then 356 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: state that state the purpose that the superintendent needs an 357 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: extra two hours to get the course prepared, so it's 358 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: a championship course. Well, guess what, Matt, that golf course 359 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: was saturated. It was not going to be in what 360 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: they considered a championship golf course. Not on Tuesday, none, 361 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night, on Thursday night, on Friday, that baby 362 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: was saturated. So now we're into a situation if on 363 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: the committee chairman, we've got a piece together championship and 364 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: is not the same as fifty four. But there is 365 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: no question in my mind that we could have played ols. 366 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: We then are told we have a ten am tea 367 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: time a shotgun on Tuesday, and we were thinking, why 368 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: can't we start at seven because they're supposed to be 369 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: a storm that comes in at ten and at seven 370 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: am no storm, we could play at least nine twelve 371 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: holds before the storm comes at ten. Um they the 372 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: maintenance dock needed four hours in the morning to get 373 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: So we get to Tuesday a little bit more of 374 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: the same. We get a mess to golf with canceled 375 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: for the day. UM So at that point, you know, 376 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: you start the pessimism starts getting a little bit stronger 377 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: than the optimism at that point because you only have 378 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: one more day left and that day, you know, it's 379 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: filled with a rainy forecast, and based on two days 380 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: of rain. You know, I don't think there's any way 381 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: that we could expect that, UM, any decision would go 382 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: differently on Wednesday. You know what happened on Tuesday afternoon 383 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: sun popped out the same thing as Monday. Monday afternoon, 384 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: we could have easily played nine holes, maybe more, maybe 385 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: we could have played eighteen holes. Doesn't get dark till 386 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: late o'clock, so they they they shut it down for 387 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: the day at noon, and that's just when the sun's 388 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: coming out. So we could not have played Tuesday morning 389 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: because they're they're thunderstorms and there's lightning in the area, 390 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: and so I've got no problem with that. But my 391 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: experience says that, and we've done it a lot of 392 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: times in the Midwest. Trust me, If if the greens 393 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: are puttable, there are in other words, no casual water 394 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: in the greens, and you don't have lightning in the area, 395 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: you can play golf. Once it got to Tuesday, our 396 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: backs were against the wall and we're running out. We 397 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: have twenty four hours left. I made the point that 398 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: you have a whole department full of maintenance staff that 399 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: get football fields ready, that gets soccer fields ready, that 400 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: get based ready, that get all these other complex is ready, 401 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: that you have to have equipment. You are the host. 402 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: You have to exhaust every effort to get this thing in, 403 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: and there wasn't. I took a picture on Wednesday of 404 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: a maintenance guy trim and trees at the pool house. 405 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: What effort is that being made to to get golf 406 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: in on a golf course it's already playable here. We 407 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: go again. Tuesday evening. The start for Wednesday's delayed until 408 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: ten o'clock, and I'm thinking, why, you know, and the 409 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: other coaches are firing these messages on the group group 410 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: text message, and nobody's answering, nobody's communicating nothing. So we 411 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: get out there Wednesday morning. It's also apparent to me, 412 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: because I've been in a golf business for forty years, 413 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: that nobody is hustling around trying to get this golf 414 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: course ready to play Wednesday morning. Nobody coming into a 415 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: regionally you would hope to be able to play single, 416 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: you know. I don't think nobody expected what happened to 417 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: happen um. But so the third day rolls around and 418 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: again they say that we start at ten o'clock, and 419 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: it kind of didn't make sense to us, at least 420 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: to me, because I always checked the weather the day before, 421 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, to see the hourly weather and see what 422 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be like. And there wasn't going to 423 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: be any rain early in the morning, So I didn't 424 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: understand why we had to tee off at ten Because 425 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: tenant tin Am was the shotgun, and so that was 426 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: kind of interesting to me in the first place. Nobody 427 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: can find the committee Wednesday morning. They're missing in action. 428 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: So I asked a couple of rules officials that are 429 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: out in the lunch room that aren't on the committee. 430 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: You know, do you know where Drew is? Do you 431 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: know where where Brad is? Uh? Do you know where 432 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Tina is? No, don't have any idea where they are. 433 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: Nobody knows. Well, I'm pretty resourceful guy. So I started 434 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: looking around and I find out where the offices are 435 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: in that building, and there's a pros pro office that's 436 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: kind of tucked behind the pro shop and so I 437 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: walk up to the door and sure enough I can 438 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: hear him talking in there, the committee. They're talking, and 439 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: so I opened the door about this far, okay, just 440 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: not to stick my head in so they know who's 441 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: who's knocking. And Drew tries to push the door shut. 442 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: He tries to push me out of there, and I 443 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: just kind of stomped my foot down and blocked the 444 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: door so it couldn't be pushed. I said, no, no, no, 445 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: I said, don't be pushing me out of here. And 446 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: Brad was sitting at the desk in the middle of 447 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: room and he says, Devin, please give us ten more minutes. 448 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: And I said, Brad, you need to be communicating with 449 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: these coaches. You know, what in the hell is going on? 450 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: And Devin, please, you don't understand there are things going 451 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: on behind the scene that you don't even know about. 452 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: He's telling me this, and I said, well, Brad, enlightened me. 453 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: You know, did did somebody die this morning? Did the 454 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: superintendent have to be carted off because of COVID? Will 455 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: tell me what's going on? Devin, give us, please, please 456 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: just give us ten more minutes. We'll come out and 457 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: address the group. Okay, what am I gonna do at 458 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: this point? You know, um, I've already kind of made 459 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: a fool of myself. But any rate, you know, Wednesday 460 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: was definitely a very tense day. At ten this morning, Um, 461 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: the rain actually didn't come through like it was a 462 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: expected to do. It was actually a fairly clear morning. 463 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: There were a couple of delays on Wednesday, um, and 464 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: we heard that the delays were for maintenance to continue 465 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: to press the golf course for a playable condition. The 466 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: coaches started getting rowdy, the players started getting rowdy. You know, 467 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: you could feel that, you could feel the tension just 468 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: it was just growing and growing. I mean, we had 469 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: a couple of coaches start yelling at each other and 470 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: that was that was kind of I've never seen that before. 471 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: Girls Girl range. They warm up? Uh. Jay Gobol with 472 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Baylor whose top seeds? Uh text sends a text message 473 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: to the whole group, including the committee at He says, Hey, 474 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: I just I just went out to the golf course. 475 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: It's not ready yet. Are we gonna have a delay. 476 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Three minutes later, Matt Drew sends a group text message 477 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: the start has been delayed eleven o'clock from ten. Okay, 478 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: now it hasn't rained to drop all morning. Had rained 479 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: over night, but nothing in the morning. We could have 480 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: gone out and then spliced around a saturated golf course. 481 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: In my opinion, after spotty communication all week, an immediate 482 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: response to the Baylor coach, who's the three seed? Now 483 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: back to coach Chadwell of Houston. They rubbed our nose 484 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: in it on Wednesday. We show up at eight o'clock 485 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: ready to go warming up. Doesn't rain a drop. I 486 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: think it rained overnight, but doesn't rain a drop from 487 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: when we got on the golf course to when they 488 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: called it an to the point where they kept pushing 489 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: it because they were hoping whether it was going to 490 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: come to give them an out. Their backs were against 491 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: the wall severely, and that's what they had to make. 492 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: They made. They made a bad decision. They compounded everything 493 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: with that decision. They had us there warming up to 494 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: the point, to the point we're supposed to play at 495 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: ten o'clock. So we get there eight, we're warming up. 496 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: Coaches are asking, hey, it's nine thirty and we need 497 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: to start loading up cars. No communication, Hey, we're gonna 498 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: push two eleven and to get the golf course ready. 499 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: And we're like, you've had all day. You had sunshine 500 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: from eleven am yesterday and you had rain overnight, Like, 501 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: what is there to get ready? As I was, I 502 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: was sitting in the van. I walk over to the 503 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: to the clubhouse and I meet my coach there and 504 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: by chance he passes by me and he goes and 505 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: as I've heard that they're delaying it another hour. So 506 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: after getting to the golf course less than an hour 507 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: before the time that we're supposed to it off, they 508 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: tell us that we're having another delay. There we are delayed. 509 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: Girls all come back to the parking lot, hanging on 510 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: in the vands whatever. Eleven o'clock start, we get another 511 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: message because they're supposed to be on the cards at 512 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: ten thirty. We get another message about ten thirty. Uh, 513 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: the start has been delayed till of a clock. And 514 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: then after the first hour delay, they closed the range 515 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: saying that the maintenance is going to work on it. 516 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 1: And basically what they were doing is picking up balls. 517 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: In my mind, I know what's going on. They're waiting 518 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: for the cell that was supposed to come through at 519 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: ten o'clock to wash this baby out. There's also another 520 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: cell that possibly could come through at twelve o'clock. They're 521 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: waiting for that one to come through. We'll guess what. 522 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: Neither one of them came. It did not rain and 523 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: drop right around the last point they had. They had 524 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: told us that they were going to delay it over 525 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: again to noon um and at that point we're like okay. 526 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: So everybody, every team out to the range. They had 527 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: reopened it and and at eleven I believe we were 528 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be in the parts. By at like eleven 529 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: twenty or so, our coaches messaged us and said for 530 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: us to come to the back of the club house, 531 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: which is I don't know if you've seen, but you 532 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: you probably have seen the video of like the group 533 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: of all these student athletes in the back, and that's 534 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: kind of what happens. So everybody kind of grouped around 535 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: and they said that at eleven thirty they were going 536 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: to make make an announcement. It's getting pretty obvious that 537 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: they're going to call this thing because they aren't communicating. 538 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: They aren't they aren't telling us anything, and I'm just wondering, well, 539 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: maybe they got the n C double A on the phone, 540 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: and the n C double A is gonna let us 541 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: play on Thursday. That's kind of what I'm thinking. But no, 542 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: I was wrong. Bradson's a text message coaches meet me 543 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: at the backstairs behind the clubhouse. Back to Nicole Schroder 544 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: of Oregon State, there's chatter there's gonna be a coaches 545 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: meeting at the back of the clubhouse. And then all 546 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: of basically all the girls were like, screw that, Like 547 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: coaches meeting. I'm gonna stand there too, like I'm gonna 548 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: listen if they're they're going to cancel it, like they're 549 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: going to cancel it to our face. And so that's 550 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: when it became a whole group meeting their parents standing 551 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: in the background, officials, coaches and players obviously, and then 552 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: what transparted the video. And actually right before the recording 553 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: of the video, somebody had walked out the door, took 554 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: a look of the amount of people behind the clubhouse 555 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: and went straight back in. And we waited there for 556 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: like another ten minutes or so before before the recording 557 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: of the video of like those five I think it 558 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: was five comedy members who came down. Even though the 559 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: force is playable, it's not playable at a championship. Here 560 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: for talk six teams received talk three prenching this happen? 561 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: You just said it was playful. Why are you serious? 562 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: And here came Brad down the stairs. I thought of 563 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: Caesar talking to the masses because he's got, you know, 564 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: two or three committed people kind of behind him. And 565 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: he stops halfway down and he starts telling us out 566 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: at what a gut ritching decision it's been, and so 567 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: forth and song. But but tournaments, so top six teams 568 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: are gonna advance top three individuals, And my mind was blank. 569 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: I'm feeling emotions, but in my mind is blank. Uh, 570 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: And I can tell that are that our student athletes 571 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: are feeling the same way. UM. A lot of people are, UM, angry, sad, confused. UM. 572 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: But we gather as a team and we talk and UH, 573 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, at that moment, you you realize that you know, 574 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: this is the last time you're together as a team, 575 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: and in our season ended, the storybook ends of this 576 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: particular team, of this this group of people ends with 577 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: that announcement. UH. And some very sickening way for careers 578 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: to end in first seasons to end in for um, 579 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, teams with a lot of momentum to be 580 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 1: cut off. For people that are that are looking forward 581 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: to that last opportunity to compete as a Mississippi State 582 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: Bulldog golfer, UM, whether that's in the regional championship, from 583 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: the national championship. UM, you deserve to have that last uh, 584 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: that last opportunity to compete as a team. And for 585 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: the second year in a row, that's taken from them. 586 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: And I just straight up broke down and cried, and 587 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: I was like, this could have been this could be 588 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: my last tournament, and I can never do anything about it, 589 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, you never you I just we just felt robbed. 590 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: I think that was the biggest thing and oh, by 591 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: the way, Brad, we've been here for five days. You 592 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: didn't think one person, You didn't think one volunteer. You 593 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: didn't thank anybody for their hard work and effort in 594 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: this thing. You just told these girls to go the 595 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: hell away and you walk back up the stairs and disappeared. 596 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: And I mean there was crying, Matt, there was screaming. 597 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: There was one girl laid on the ground and cried. 598 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: And that was not a good stead from Miami. And 599 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: she's an All American. She has a chance to win 600 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: the n C Double A that she can go on, 601 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: but she got kicked to the curve. Meanwhile, Nicole Shoulder 602 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: is still coping with the nightmare. Are you out of tears? No? 603 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: I think, um, I think of going through different waves 604 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: of emotions. I think it started I was mad, I 605 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: was angry, and then it was sad and I was 606 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: crying and it was just oh my gosh. Now I 607 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: think I'm just like smiling laughing about it because it's 608 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: like sometimes I think about it and I'm like, did 609 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: that actually happen? Am I living a bad dream? Like 610 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: this can't be real life? But it is. So then 611 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: I go back to sad, so it's all the emotions. 612 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: Stacy Lewis, Garrett Chad was wife, took to Twitter that afternoon. 613 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: She wrote, There's a lot I could say on this, 614 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: but n C double A, you failed. These kids. Be creative, 615 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: be willing to adapt, and most importantly, let their play 616 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: decide who plays for a national championship. Proud of Houston 617 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: women's golf and they will be back now more from Chadwell, 618 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: but the thing that we never hit a shot and 619 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: the worst thing you could say the golf course was playable, 620 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: but not to a championship level. The worst thing you 621 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 1: could say, man, the worst thing you could say, because 622 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: we It's what we had been telling you. Another thought 623 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: from Andrew Hobner, the Oregon based sports director, and I 624 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: haven't ripped away like that was was really something. You know. 625 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: Ellie Slama is here at Oregon State. She's probably one 626 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: of the the best golfers in in our region. She 627 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: was she went to national championships in two thousand. She qualified, 628 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: i'd um for the Amateur at Augusta in the inaugural 629 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: woman's Amateur at Augusta. And this was her moment. You know, 630 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: she's a junior. She lost out on a chance to 631 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: go back to the n C double as because of 632 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: COVID last year, and she was poised to be another 633 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: one of those athletes that could have made a run 634 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: this weekend. The way they did it was very poor. 635 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean him walking away the second that he finished 636 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: telling us, with all of us asking legitimate questions. There 637 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: were coaches trying to go in there and ask for 638 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: more details, and there was a security guard sitting there 639 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: and we weren't allowed to go in. So I mean 640 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: it was very, very poorly done. Yeah, the fact that 641 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: you need a security guard outside the door of a 642 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: women's golf like that tells you all you need to know. 643 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: This is like, this is crazy. It was great. I mean, 644 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: my parents were there. They flew all the way out 645 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: from Oregon. My brother was there. He took a week 646 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: off of word, came all the way out and all 647 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: they did was stand and wait and wait and wait, 648 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: and then I would text them delay, I would text 649 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: them cancel, and we all just had absolutely no idea why. 650 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: I think that was the hardest part is like, obviously 651 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: if we went out there and we saw the course 652 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: was unplayable, it would be much less frustrating. Because they 653 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: were doing everything they could. But in this case, we 654 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: could have played it every afternoon, starting at probably two pm, 655 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: maybe three at the latest, which I mean there were 656 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: eighteen teams, so we could have finished at least nine, 657 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: probably eighteen holes before eight pm when it gets dark. 658 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: The committee is hiding. They were inside that room. You know, 659 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: you can walk into that clubhouse, because to get to 660 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: the lockers you would have to go into the clubhouse. 661 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: The committee's room was like right next to it, and 662 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: it was just a row of coaches just standing there 663 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: waiting for the committee to say something. And I remember 664 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: my team was standing in the parking lot and our 665 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: assistant coach walked out and we were staring staring at her, 666 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, like do you have answers? And my assistant 667 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: just strugs her shoulders. She goes, I don't have any 668 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: answers for you, because they're not saying anything. We stand 669 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: there as a team at the U club, you know, 670 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: about to depart and head back home for the last 671 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: time as a team, and and nobody can even say anything. Um. 672 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: I didn't really have anything to say to the team. 673 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: The only thing I could tell him was you know 674 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: how much I love him. I care for him, and 675 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: how how they deserve so much better, and and there's 676 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: that's really you're kind of where it stops. And and um, 677 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: I won't I won't. I won't say a name. But 678 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: but I did have a student athlete come up to 679 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: me and just say, UM, you know, it's sad, but 680 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: I'm kind of getting used to this. Um you know 681 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: now for the second year in a row, that that 682 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: this is how the season comes to an end, especially 683 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: playing well enough to earn more. You have two vans 684 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: back to Houston, and oh my gosh, yeah, I mean 685 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: it's like and my assistant, who doesn't cry? Who's I mean, 686 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: dad's baseball coach. She's tough as nails. Not that's not fair. 687 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: That's bullshit, it's not and she and she and she's played, 688 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: she played four States, she's played a national, chance to 689 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: playing regions. But this is not fair to the kids. 690 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: And you just sit there like you cry. You've got 691 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: all this window window time. Kids are sleep, you know. 692 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: We so we've been out there since I mean we 693 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: left the hotel. It has been thirty We get in 694 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: the car and roll at noon. My kids had no 695 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: appetite because they're to their stomach we drive an hour 696 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: and a half before anybody's ready to eat. It's been 697 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: a really difficult week. UM, trying to support Obviously it's 698 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: not difficult to support them, but it's difficult to find 699 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: the best ways to support these student athletes. There needs 700 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: to be some sort of coaches input because this is 701 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Brad gets to go home and he still 702 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: gets a job. Like you know, you got coaches getting 703 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: fired this year for a performance based in a crazy year. UM, 704 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: So you know, what if what if some what if 705 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: somebody had like hey, it's national championship or year out 706 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: at a at a you know, a place that maybe 707 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: historically should be there. Um, you know, I don't know. 708 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: I just our livelihood. It's what we do. But we 709 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: got those kids in the eye and fixed these psyches 710 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: that don't trust the system. Don't you know have had 711 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to coach God Willing, I'm gonna get 712 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: to coach another regional. Um. I get to go with 713 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: Karen next week to n C double as. Karen fred 714 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: Gard of Denmark is a sophomore at Houston. She was 715 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: American Athletic Conference Player of the Year and was in 716 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: the odd position of advancing as an individual well, her 717 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: team was being told they were done, um well doing 718 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: the week. It was really difficult because I wanted to 719 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: play as much as them, and I wanted to to 720 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: play with my team, and we we had practiced and 721 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: worked really hard to get there as a team and 722 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: it could be the the first time ever. Um So 723 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: it was really difficult knowing that none of the others 724 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: get to play, but I can go and play. So 725 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: I felt a little bit like I felt bad for 726 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: all the girls. And obviously it's great for me that 727 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: I get to go and play, but I would so 728 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: much rather have been there, and like going there with 729 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 1: my team. I asked her if she'd be carrying five 730 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: bags next week in Arizona. And I know that the 731 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: team is going to be with me, and like in 732 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: another way than than usually, but um, and it's gonna 733 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: be weird seeing all the other teams there with the 734 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: full with all of their teams and players there's as 735 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: a team. But I know that that my team was 736 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: gonna support me however away they can, and and my 737 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: my coaches are coming with me, so so that makes 738 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: makes it a little bit more fun to be there. 739 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: Ellie Islama on Fred guard's complicated sich wation. I hope 740 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: she wins the national Championship. I hope she you know, 741 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: says in her speech something about the n c A 742 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: and just you know how disappointed she is in them. 743 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 1: But I really am rooting for the top six teams 744 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: that made it because I think that they do feel 745 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: really guilty, and I know I would feel really guilty 746 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: if I advanced in that way. Um, But yeah, I mean, 747 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: it's still very frustrating, and I just also wonder if 748 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: this would have happened if l f U was the 749 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: seventh seed. So that's another Yeah, there's a lot of 750 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: what if before we get to some more reflections on 751 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: who's to blame. Be sure and listen to Part two 752 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: of this debacle, as Sam Bazoian or Barstool Rigs, shares 753 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: the story of how and why he and his team 754 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: at Barstool are now hosting a consolation tournament this week 755 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: at Whirlwind Golf Club in Arizona, plus a lot more 756 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: reaction from coaches and players, and in Part three, I 757 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: speak to Jay Billis, the basketball analyst and lawyer who 758 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: has dedicated the better part of a decade to exposing 759 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: the dysfunction and bullshittery of the n C Double A. 760 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: I should say I had a lot of no response 761 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: from several coaches and administrators involved in this bizarre fiasco. 762 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: A spokesperson from the n C Double A did call 763 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 1: me back and referred me to the response they made 764 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: on the Golf Channel in which Julie Manning, the chair 765 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: of the n C Double A Women's Golf Committee, who 766 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: was in Ohio but apparently was getting involved in the 767 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: decision making in Baton Rouge. But I will also tell 768 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: you none of the players or coaches I did speak 769 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: to were very impressed with her responses to the questions. 770 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: So whose fault was it? We end with a series 771 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: of final thoughts from the coaches and players who helped 772 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 1: tell this story first, and I really appreciate coach brownse 773 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: And the problem is we've got and I hate to 774 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 1: say this about Brad because he's been around enough golf 775 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: tournaments he should know what he's doing. But he got 776 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: influenced by the L s U crowd. I believe you know, 777 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: you got a superintendent on that committee, you got the 778 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: director of the championship as an L s U guy, 779 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: And there are rules. A couple of rules officials on 780 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: that committee that are l s U people. So I 781 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 1: don't know the facts behind the scenes that he's talking about. 782 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: You know who who who's calling up the Baylor the 783 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: President of the United States is calling up and say, hey, 784 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: you can't play down there unless you have a championship venue. 785 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: I I don't know, but they kept throwing that that 786 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: rationale out of everybody is we have to have a 787 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: championship venue. And they decided Tuesday night that we didn't 788 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: have a championship venue and they were not going to 789 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: play on Wednesday. That's my opinion. They decided they were 790 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: going to play and they were going to count on 791 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 1: those two thunders showers that were predicted for for Wednesday 792 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: morning to get them off the hook. That's my opinion. 793 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: Inez one and Martha who plays for coach Browse at Perdue, 794 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: whose fault is it? I think it's a little bit 795 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 1: of everything. I wouldn't say it's it's like a women's 796 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: sport kind of thing. Um. I would just say in general, 797 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: I think it was a series of poor decisions that 798 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: lead to more poor decisions, if that makes sense. It's 799 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: almost it's almost like a fallacy. It almost kind of 800 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: felt like you built a snowball and just kept going down. 801 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: Gary Chadwell, administrators have no business calling shots. This dude 802 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: that called that, that that said that as of Tuesday night, 803 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: hadn't stepped foot on the gorse, had not walked the 804 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: golf course. This same dude. There was nobody there from 805 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: the n C double a Indian represented. They were calling, 806 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: what do we do? What do we do? That? I know, 807 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 1: but we don't know anything because nothing was communicated to 808 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: us like you got a number one. Communication has change, 809 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: like we never had a coaches meeting from Sunday afternoon on. 810 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: We never had a coaches meeting where you tell us 811 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: everything that you're exhausting. Nicole Schroeder of Oregon State. So 812 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: this is my fourth REGILM that I've been to. I 813 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: feel like I've I've seen it. I know I've played it. 814 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: UM that I've played in very prestiged ones. There was 815 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: at Texas Tech my freshman year, sophomore year, UM at 816 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: University Ridge and West Madison, Wisconsin, and then junior year 817 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: we're at UM Klayle and Washington or you Dog host 818 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: hosted and UM all very prestigious, well run tournaments where 819 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: the host school was communicating with the rules officials and 820 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,479 Speaker 1: the committee, and there was no question in my mind 821 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: that everything was going to be done to make that 822 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: tournament the best that it could possibly be. Whereas this 823 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 1: we I was like, did they do a single thing 824 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: to make this tournament run? Well? I don't think so. 825 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: Charlie Ewing of Mississippi State. I don't question the integrity 826 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: of of the universe of of Louisiana State University. And 827 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: I genuinely hope that if if the seating was different, 828 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: I hope that wouldn't have an impact. Do you think 829 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: this happens if this is men's golf versus women's golf? 830 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um. Again, that's something where deep down, 831 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: I really really really hope that would never be the case. Um, 832 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: And I think I just need to leave it at 833 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: that if I really really hope that that would never 834 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: be something that influences anybody's decision. And finally, Kelli Slama, 835 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: also of Oregon State, I wrote a very strongly worded letter. 836 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: I've mailed it. I've emailed it. The mp A is 837 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: going to get quite a few letters from me, so 838 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's and I give them every single detail 839 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 1: from a whole tournament. I give them my personal opinion, 840 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: I give them my coaches opinion, and at the end, 841 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: I tell them everything that I think that they should change, 842 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: because if it doesn't happen because of this, it's never 843 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna happen Like this is this is the time. I 844 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: asked Salama if she cared to share some of the 845 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: letter here. I'll read the last paragraph right here. So 846 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: I said, golf has taught me so many life lessons, 847 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: and one of them is courage. That is why I'm 848 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: writing this letter. I know that what the n c 849 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: A Games Committee did was wrong. I do not want 850 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: anyone to feel this way. I would like to ask 851 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: the n c A to change the rule that a 852 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: regional championship cannot be extended past Wednesday. If we would 853 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 1: have continued the tournament and played thirty six holes Thursday, 854 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: we would not be in this situation. I would also 855 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: like to see proper training of the Games Committee so 856 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: that they know what to do in circumstances where there's 857 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: inclement weather. I understand that weather is out of everyone's control, 858 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: but this committee did not know how to proceed, and 859 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: that should not happen, especially at this level. Of golf 860 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 1: and on the behalf of every player in this field 861 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: that and not make it to a national championship due 862 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: to this committee's horrible decision. We would like a formal apology. 863 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: This situation should never happen again, and I will make 864 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: sure this. I'll continue to be in contact with the 865 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: n c A in every possible way until I hear back, 866 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: because I will not let this story fade out and 867 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: go away without some change being made. We appreciate the 868 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: support from part points and app that's the portal to 869 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: a new way of scoring. Brandon Ebert, one of the 870 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,720 Speaker 1: co creators, explains the concept of the game is every 871 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: hole is its own game, and your job is to 872 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,919 Speaker 1: make sure you score par on every hole. So it says, 873 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: pick a spot on every hole where you think you 874 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: can score far from and play from that distance so 875 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 1: as they scratch golfer might play it from the back 876 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: teas as an average golfer, I might play it from 877 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: one fifty. Doesn't matter. You can choose anywhere you want 878 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 1: on the on the whole, from the you know, the 879 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: teag area to the green and if you want to 880 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 1: put your ball on the on the green and put 881 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: it and that's all you want to do, that's okay. 882 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: Part Points is a great way to get kids or 883 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: newcomers into the game, and should also be considered as 884 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: an alternate way to play on your next Buddy strip. 885 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: Download the power Points app now and then go make 886 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: par h