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Speaker 1: Is your boy, Big Steel Sill and the day we
Speaker 1: have the future president of the United States that's gonna
Speaker 1: legalize weed across the great lands of the USA. He's
Speaker 1: gonna legalize marijuana he's gonna have a platform. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get brothers out of prison. We're gonna stop giving all
Speaker 1: the bread to these foreign countries and gonna start spending
Speaker 1: it here. None of the than Mr Afroman. God. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know why, man, what's going on with you? Man? Man? Everything? Everything? Man?
Speaker 1: You know, I was looking the other week, man, right,
Speaker 1: and I saw all this stuff online, Like you know,
Speaker 1: if everybody's talk about Afroman running for president? Right, So
Speaker 1: I saw the platform. Man, your platform sound better than
Speaker 1: every motherfucker don president. You're not a states in the
Speaker 1: last thirty years, man. You know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: I got that, I got that mandatory black agenda in
Speaker 1: my mind. You know, Uh, I got reparations for slavery
Speaker 1: and real police reform, you know what I'm saying. So like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, like if a cop has any ties to like,
Speaker 1: you know, white supremacy r you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybodiased person should be a police officer,
Speaker 1: not even not even hommies. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: For sure, they might you know, they pull you know,
Speaker 1: they got a chip on their shoulder by something, and
Speaker 1: then you know and ain't gonna be fair. So uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna put that in place. If I
Speaker 1: ever see them with a Confederate flag or or they
Speaker 1: tied to some kind of white supremacist group. They don't
Speaker 1: serve and protect me and then serve and protect you know,
Speaker 1: the full population of the mayor. So I don't want
Speaker 1: him on the force. And then you know, if you're
Speaker 1: a good cop and you ain't telling on a bad cop,
Speaker 1: for as uncle sergery just as bad as the bad cop,
Speaker 1: because you ain't saying nothing. So you clean the house
Speaker 1: and everybody. Oh yeah, man, because you know, the police
Speaker 1: have a lot of power, and they got access to
Speaker 1: our children, they got access to our loved ones. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we need to know how to act. But
Speaker 1: you know it ought to be something in place to
Speaker 1: make them obey the law they represent. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure what made you decide up and
Speaker 1: run for president? Because you know what, at first, maybe
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, out and said, man, it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, But then Trump sucked around, and
Speaker 1: when that motherfucker that changed the game. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: didn't think he was gonna win either. I don't think
Speaker 1: nobody thought that motherfucker's gonna win. Man, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something. Maybe motherfucker' was just tired of the same
Speaker 1: old ship, you know, probably feeling like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: just the motherfucker. You know, he wouldn't know politician the
Speaker 1: niggas was about money and business and ship. So and
Speaker 1: then you know he was with that white agenda. So
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people put him in office
Speaker 1: because you know, they knew he was gonna push that
Speaker 1: all white agenda. M yeah, man, it ain't the man,
Speaker 1: it's the party, and it's the policies exactly. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm I can put the policies up. I can
Speaker 1: put a cartoon up there, like this cartoon is gonna
Speaker 1: give you your gun rights. He's gonna build that wall
Speaker 1: where everybody has to is with that carton daughter, you
Speaker 1: know what, because that's that's you know, it's it's the policies.
Speaker 1: So uh, I'm gonna yell out all the policies I
Speaker 1: feel right, and uh, you know, you know, you never
Speaker 1: know how many people might agree with me. Man, It's
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be people to agree with, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, especially for our side dealing from what
Speaker 1: the it we've had to deal with as far as
Speaker 1: being black in America so to speak. So but when
Speaker 1: it comes to you know, pushing our agenda's like you said,
Speaker 1: it's still motherfucking states who haven't don't want to legalize marijuana,
Speaker 1: which is the dumbest shipped off you know on the planet.
Speaker 1: Right now. Another thing, Uh, I think we need a
Speaker 1: you know, you have the Democrat in the Republican Party.
Speaker 1: We need a black party, you know, Uh like remember
Speaker 1: racings for slavery. Uh, you know, real police form. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about, uh, the studying and discussing a person
Speaker 1: not even being able to patrol a neighborhood less they
Speaker 1: from that neighborhood like they they they're gonna be no
Speaker 1: mistaken identities. You know. That's Mrs Parker's son, which employees
Speaker 1: more people you know, from the community doing police, working police. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's a black agenda. You know. Those are my
Speaker 1: two I don't like, uh, asset forfeitsure for as uncle
Speaker 1: ser that's just robbery, you know what I'm causing put
Speaker 1: me on a few times just oh this is drug
Speaker 1: money and just took my rap money, you know, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, uh and this, that and the other. No
Speaker 1: more asset forfitsure. You know, everything that I feel is
Speaker 1: wrong with the police system, everything that we've experienced that
Speaker 1: we don't want our sons and in the younger generation
Speaker 1: to experience that, everything that's wrong. You know, I get
Speaker 1: in that position. I'm gonna try to fix it. It's
Speaker 1: been a whole lot of ship. Yeah. So, but we
Speaker 1: need a black political party. I think I've seen one.
Speaker 1: It said, our Black Party. I don't know, just okay,
Speaker 1: you know, but I gotta If it ain't one invented already,
Speaker 1: we need to invent one. We need to put one together,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, I probably won't
Speaker 1: try to get too fancy with the title. You know,
Speaker 1: it ain't no, it ain't no playing or nothing. White
Speaker 1: people can be in the Black Political Party. If you
Speaker 1: got something to contribute to the benefit of black people
Speaker 1: in America under the circumstances we haven't been under, then
Speaker 1: you know, come on joining the party. You know, you
Speaker 1: know certain things need to be done to make stuff right.
Speaker 1: Come on in and help contribute for sure. For sure.
Speaker 1: You know what I have been seeing lately, it's dead
Speaker 1: hip hop is a very powerful medium, everybody you know,
Speaker 1: and I think it always goes back and forth. A
Speaker 1: country for the number one music in the world, number
Speaker 1: one genre in the world, because country and rap ain't
Speaker 1: too far off. It's pretty much the same stuff. If
Speaker 1: you listen to a country song they're talking about the
Speaker 1: same thing is that they're talking about. They truck some
Speaker 1: bitches and alcohol. You know, we wrap you know, money,
Speaker 1: we bitches. You know, it's the same ship, right, talk
Speaker 1: about the same thing. So I think definitely, Man, because
Speaker 1: you got the hell of a fan base, and that's
Speaker 1: what we go go through. I don't know if you remember,
Speaker 1: but this actual facility, right it were partnered up with
Speaker 1: a cat named big A. They said, a spotting Compton
Speaker 1: called Underworld Records, right, And I remember way back, this
Speaker 1: is when I was a young nick. I still had
Speaker 1: a hairline back then. Man, you know, um he had
Speaker 1: told me, Man, because men was messed around. I had
Speaker 1: a record store in pair of mount He was like, Man,
Speaker 1: you gotta get on this, man, it's a cat from
Speaker 1: my here from Palm deal man afro Man and I
Speaker 1: always asked. We used to bump the tape, right, We
Speaker 1: used to bump the tape in the store down and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I just asked, man, we're Afro
Speaker 1: man that he said, Still he cut the throw off
Speaker 1: because he said he want to get the job. He said,
Speaker 1: one time you're talking about cutting the froe off. And
Speaker 1: then he told me you moved out of town. And
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, like some years go by later,
Speaker 1: you got the biggest motherfucking record in the world. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that journey, Like what happened between you coming
Speaker 1: from my HEAs, I don't know you really from the hood.
Speaker 1: You're really from the hood, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So what happened from that point man? Where he was
Speaker 1: running around slinging the black and white tapes? It was
Speaker 1: a black and white album because ready to you going
Speaker 1: out of the Mississippi is somewhere and you're just blowing up. Man.
Speaker 1: I was, you know, after I dropped out of Ponder
Speaker 1: in high school, I was on my own. Uh, I
Speaker 1: had have you know, having me. I was doing all right.
Speaker 1: I was slanging, I was, I was I was maintaining.
Speaker 1: I had me a house in Compton and the rent
Speaker 1: was like a hundred dollars a month, and like I'm
Speaker 1: working at the Airport of Slanging c d S. And
Speaker 1: I got a girl. She's supposed to be going half
Speaker 1: with me on the bill, you know, but right around
Speaker 1: the twenty and we always get into that that that
Speaker 1: that coincidental fight. Yeah, and then she goes running back
Speaker 1: to her daddy house and then you know, I get
Speaker 1: here with the bills. My dad called me up. My
Speaker 1: dad had left California and he was he got some
Speaker 1: property in Mississippi and he was like, he bought this
Speaker 1: house way back before he brought us to South Central.
Speaker 1: He bought a house down there. And he was like, Joseph,
Speaker 1: he said, you're out there. He was like, the cost
Speaker 1: of living in California is really high. He was like,
Speaker 1: you don't really know because you was born there and
Speaker 1: you ain't been nowhere to compare. And he was just like,
Speaker 1: he was like, minimum ways in Mississippi is the same
Speaker 1: amount of minimum ways of California cost that. He was like,
Speaker 1: my mortgage on my house is a hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: dollars a month, and he was like, your rent is
Speaker 1: not hunter And he just talked to me until he
Speaker 1: just talked to me in the coming down there. He
Speaker 1: he was like, you're gonna have more money. Blah blah
Speaker 1: blah if you just come to Mississippi, were part of
Speaker 1: Mississippi Hattiesburg. Um, then I realized that l A is
Speaker 1: a entertainment warehouse. L A entertains the world. You know,
Speaker 1: I was born here, you know, you know you see
Speaker 1: people coming out of New York, and but I just
Speaker 1: I didn't understand, like how much entertainment competition is here.
Speaker 1: Ye'll be out to try and sell my CD. I
Speaker 1: pull out my CD to dude, I'm trying to slang
Speaker 1: into pool out his you know what I'm saying here,
Speaker 1: I want to swap and here's don't be as dope
Speaker 1: as behind. You know, I got this show into the
Speaker 1: state no money in a white CD. So but when
Speaker 1: I went out of town, Uh, there's more consumers than entertainers.
Speaker 1: People didn't want to entertain. They wanted to be entertained,
Speaker 1: so they and then they the cost of living was lower,
Speaker 1: so they had more play money. They had more money
Speaker 1: to take chances with my CDs as opposed to a
Speaker 1: l A cat you know, giving me some smooth line,
Speaker 1: I'm cool, all we you know whatever, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, it was just you know, the like
Speaker 1: I said, it was l A entertain the world, so
Speaker 1: demand was out outside the state of California. That's what
Speaker 1: I didn't know. But when I got out there, you know,
Speaker 1: I was I was starting to get my tapes off
Speaker 1: way better, saving money, saving money with the cost of living,
Speaker 1: more people, spending with the with my CDs and everything,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, but I came back to l A.
Speaker 1: I realized l A is where you come after you
Speaker 1: make it. We were born here, so you know, we're
Speaker 1: trying to make it out of here. But what you
Speaker 1: need to do is get up out of l A,
Speaker 1: take a lap around the country, and they come back
Speaker 1: and pick your house. You know, I want to, you know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, this is where you come after. It's the
Speaker 1: home of the stars. But you don't need to be
Speaker 1: here to your a star or so, you know, because
Speaker 1: this is hard to make it. So you still hand
Speaker 1: in hand with it when you went out to Mississippi
Speaker 1: initially or did you look up with a distributor? Uh? Both.
Speaker 1: I was hand in hand, um, I was. I was
Speaker 1: at the Trump I was I was doing everything one
Speaker 1: man because I only knew how to do so much.
Speaker 1: I knew how to wrap, you know, to make the beats.
Speaker 1: I knew how to press up to tape, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know how to get it in stores. I knew
Speaker 1: how to do the consignment thing, but I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to really get it, get it going on across
Speaker 1: the countries and having in every store. So that was
Speaker 1: the next level for me. That's the record deal, that's
Speaker 1: what that was the next thing I needed, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I meant a dude down there
Speaker 1: that had his own record label, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he helped me get my CDs distributed in stores like
Speaker 1: to the point where it may not be sitting on
Speaker 1: the shelf, but if they pick up the phone, they
Speaker 1: had access to it. And so so people went in
Speaker 1: their holiday your affroma affrima hey man, Okay. Then next
Speaker 1: to you know, boom, but you know word of mouth
Speaker 1: and demand. Well it was on the show down there,
Speaker 1: and then you know, spreading getting bigger and bigger. I'm
Speaker 1: getting bigg and bigger now because I got hot took off, man,
Speaker 1: because you have been grinding for a while. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You've been in the ground. It wasn't
Speaker 1: the overnight success stuff. You know, he was on your
Speaker 1: grind when that record hit. Man, where did you hear
Speaker 1: that first? Like, like, what was you hearing the commotion
Speaker 1: about it? Yeah? Man, man, I'm gonna tell you. So
Speaker 1: it was in Hattisbury, right, and like, uh I made it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Uh, Chats would come by
Speaker 1: my house and smoke weed, and then I played my
Speaker 1: tapes for him while we were smoking, because usually I
Speaker 1: can sell them a few CDs while we're smoking, so
Speaker 1: you know, I'm doubling up. You know, they're getting a
Speaker 1: little bug and so um, I was planning for cats.
Speaker 1: They was liking it. Then they come on and they
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, let me get let me get this,
Speaker 1: let me get a T shirt, let me get three
Speaker 1: of them CDs. They was, They was making runs for
Speaker 1: other people, you know, throwing their little five ten dollars
Speaker 1: on their taxing them. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes
Speaker 1: the same dude will come back to my house still
Speaker 1: wants to so I know he was getting up for
Speaker 1: other people, and then uh, I couldn't find no where
Speaker 1: to perform, you know what I'm saying. Like, and it
Speaker 1: was just one of them, one of the old black
Speaker 1: clubs down in the hood and Hadisburg. The black people
Speaker 1: don't even go to you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: one of them old man clubs. And I talked to
Speaker 1: him into letting me singing there. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I was like, I just need I said, I gotta crowd.
Speaker 1: I just need somewhere for him to come. He's hard.
Speaker 1: They can't come in here. You can get them back here,
Speaker 1: all right. So I put my flies all over had
Speaker 1: his bird. I went crazy. Oh and uh, I had
Speaker 1: because I got hot. And it was in the back
Speaker 1: these these bars was in the back of the get up.
Speaker 1: And man, I remember I was wrapping something and I
Speaker 1: remember four white girls from US m blood here. It
Speaker 1: was like slow motion. They was holding the hand. Their
Speaker 1: hair was in the wind, just blowing. They ran up
Speaker 1: to the front his name, I think. So I stopped
Speaker 1: my little little CD player. I stopped it and I
Speaker 1: put it on the number that I had the instrumental
Speaker 1: because I hid and I started seeing it. They got
Speaker 1: on their cell phones and it seems going out, they
Speaker 1: start walking around the place, start giving up the address. Man.
Speaker 1: People just start pulling in that place. Trucks all kind
Speaker 1: of junk. Man. You know what I'm saying, and I
Speaker 1: just saying like that that that song was a game changer,
Speaker 1: like people like my flow, but it couldn't pull them
Speaker 1: like that. But that song made then this is in
Speaker 1: Mississippi and white people didn't come back there. You know,
Speaker 1: they was back there because you. And that's one thing
Speaker 1: I've noticed with your crowds. You got a real diverse audience. Man,
Speaker 1: It's like the white women love you. Don't white folks
Speaker 1: love you? Is it difficult to maintain that type of audience? No? No,
Speaker 1: uh if people if if people like you and they
Speaker 1: can relate to you, you got them like like you know,
Speaker 1: being from the hood and knowing of backgrounds with that
Speaker 1: and knowing, you know, dealing with people expect us to
Speaker 1: be certain ways as fucking rappers, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And don't think we should have another side to us,
Speaker 1: like everybody come from l a gotta beat them type
Speaker 1: of niggas. You feel me? So, you know when you
Speaker 1: was doing your music, did you ever feel like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, or when you was right now,
Speaker 1: I get high. How did you think people would take that?
Speaker 1: Did you think it would be like one of those
Speaker 1: or did you think it would just relate to the
Speaker 1: to the to the niggas, so to speak. I thought
Speaker 1: the world would like it because I was seeing the
Speaker 1: world smoke weed, okay, And so if you can, if
Speaker 1: you can relate to what I'm doing, then you could
Speaker 1: you could feel what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If I go, if I talk about love riding, the
Speaker 1: dude over here with the truck, he might like to
Speaker 1: be to something, but he might not. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but a little rider gonna yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: see saw and you know, you know, but yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a weed smoking. I really thought we was gonna get
Speaker 1: legal because too many smart people did it. People that
Speaker 1: were smarter than cops was doing weed. Like it would
Speaker 1: be doctors like Joseph. Look, this is a cocaine. But
Speaker 1: if you screw this top off. You know, there's just
Speaker 1: too many smart, innovative people. I was like, and then
Speaker 1: you know, so I was I was seeing I'm seeing
Speaker 1: different people smoke. But so you know, I'm I'm looking
Speaker 1: for something to do. Like I'm a rapper. You want
Speaker 1: to write about something that that's people are gonna buy
Speaker 1: and they're gonna like, you know, So I was writing
Speaker 1: about everything, and I was like, man, you know what
Speaker 1: if I did me a little simple weed song? Man,
Speaker 1: everybody smoke weed and something they can relate to, you know,
Speaker 1: getting high, having a good time, forgetting to do something important.
Speaker 1: There's a whole bunch of people like that. So you
Speaker 1: didn't pick up. You didn't pick it up because motherfucker's
Speaker 1: love getting high. Everybody forgetting the ship like a mother
Speaker 1: for getting ship like a motherfucker. I remember I was
Speaker 1: at the mall, man I forgot Wild Park and I
Speaker 1: was just walking around the motherfucking thing and come to
Speaker 1: find out I was. I had to have my wife
Speaker 1: come there and get me and everything is. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know where the car is that with that weed,
Speaker 1: with that weed, so you're picking up your bus the
Speaker 1: buzzs coming up. When did the record label start calling um?
Speaker 1: Like a year later? Like uh I was? I was
Speaker 1: putting it down in two thousands, Like uh I was.
Speaker 1: I was a balling rapper without a record deal. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I became a legitimate rapper. I
Speaker 1: was working at the Chicken place and I went to
Speaker 1: this uh this dude invited me to this farm and
Speaker 1: I got on top of this picnic table and I
Speaker 1: did I compella the song I got called Crazy Rap,
Speaker 1: I'm my code forty five two daggs and everybody laughed
Speaker 1: and everybody bought a CD. I had like two other CDs,
Speaker 1: so I made two thousand dollars and one night. Now
Speaker 1: I'm stripping because I worked on a week fifty bucks,
Speaker 1: so I'm like boo. And then from that party, people
Speaker 1: is telling me, next weekend, can you come into my house.
Speaker 1: We're having to get together and we won't fifty CDs.
Speaker 1: Johnny won't twenty man man. So I don't even have
Speaker 1: to work no more. Because I'm looking at my little
Speaker 1: calendar and it's full of these little mini parties, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I hadn't. I hadn't loaded
Speaker 1: up to buy like six months. I'm giving out my
Speaker 1: my my car to everybody, my numbers on my CDs,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking to people. I'm loading on my calendar,
Speaker 1: and uh, I was on my way to Bay St. Louis.
Speaker 1: I got this eighty three coup de fille and I
Speaker 1: finally got the doors. I got to paying it, I
Speaker 1: got my interior done. I didn't have Switchers. But I
Speaker 1: had the interior done, and I had Datan's and I
Speaker 1: finally had a straight car, and I was riding across
Speaker 1: the bridge and Bay St. Louis. That's when it hit
Speaker 1: me that I was paying my bills with rapper money.
Speaker 1: I was surviving as a rapper. I didn't have a job.
Speaker 1: I was I had six months worth the parties booked up.
Speaker 1: I was living on rap music. I was officially a rapper.
Speaker 1: You know, you know where you're paying bills with it?
Speaker 1: So h that was all the two thousand, two thousand.
Speaker 1: I was just blown up in Mississippi, all over MISSIPI,
Speaker 1: getting over into Alabama, popping up into Tennessee, and then
Speaker 1: uh this this, this book and agent wanted to start.
Speaker 1: I never had a book and agent. I just walked
Speaker 1: to like, can I wrap into your spot? Dude, I
Speaker 1: get fifty bucks, you come wrapping my house next week.
Speaker 1: Then I meet somebody at the fifty buck party that
Speaker 1: say I get you two hundred if you come next
Speaker 1: week to miles And every week he got higher and higher.
Speaker 1: One dude gave me six hundred bucks to rap on
Speaker 1: the back of his flat bed truck. That's the job, right, there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a you're doing something you like to do,
Speaker 1: so fucking and you know it was just way better
Speaker 1: than a hundred fifty a week, you know, picking the
Speaker 1: chickens because that was like that was you know, you
Speaker 1: don't have to go back there. So he was expected
Speaker 1: like grabbing the chickens butter nick and breaking the next
Speaker 1: and ship you know, hang the treating the little hangers,
Speaker 1: you know down Southwark, my people from Gulfport, Mississippi, my
Speaker 1: my grandfather, you know, how to pig for him. So
Speaker 1: hate going down. It was number mud and just wet
Speaker 1: shit everywhere. I hated that ship. Man. Man, I liked
Speaker 1: my trips. Some people house they got grass out front.
Speaker 1: You man, you're talking about just mud and just just
Speaker 1: wet mud just everywhere. Man, fucking pigs and ship. All
Speaker 1: I knows when I went to Mississippi, because you remember
Speaker 1: our parents in the hood, we never flew nowhere. We
Speaker 1: always got in the car and drove every motherfucking were.
Speaker 1: It wasn't no planes, it wasn't no buses, wasn't no nothing.
Speaker 1: You got in the car and drove. We didn't fly
Speaker 1: in the Gulfport, no airport. We had to fly into
Speaker 1: like did you drive from California down there? Used to
Speaker 1: drive all the times. That's what I'm saying. Like that
Speaker 1: ship we had to fly if we flow or we
Speaker 1: was on the fucking ground, That's what I'm saying. One
Speaker 1: of the bus was a luxury cross country negative Gulfport, Mississippi,
Speaker 1: and it seemed like my pops wouldn't stop dogs. So
Speaker 1: we ride down the Mississippi and all I remember when
Speaker 1: we went there, my mom. That's when I realized my
Speaker 1: mom's and pops and left us because I noticed about it.
Speaker 1: Clark my mom's and pops and crept off right, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm over there with my uncle and
Speaker 1: then me and my brothers and my little brother's crown
Speaker 1: like we're mama head were MoMA and they go. We
Speaker 1: yalked there for the summer, dog and all I remember, man,
Speaker 1: we all slept in the same motherfucker. It was the biggest, softest,
Speaker 1: big after head, you know. I had one of them
Speaker 1: fat black gon baby and go to sleep. She gave
Speaker 1: me a kiss. So I went to bed, man and
Speaker 1: I just remember it was solid. It was so dark
Speaker 1: that you can't help but just go to sleep, and
Speaker 1: you hear the motherfucking bugs outside because I'm from Ohio, right,
Speaker 1: so we would drive Ohio down there, right, So I
Speaker 1: just remember, you wake up. My auntie put us the
Speaker 1: bed like around eight thirty dogs and had us wake
Speaker 1: up like a four in the morning. Because we wake
Speaker 1: up and it's like you come to the table. It's biscuits, chicken, crits,
Speaker 1: like eggs, like a big thing. So everybody wake up
Speaker 1: and eat. And so I'm about to go back to bed.
Speaker 1: My uncle saying, you gotta come out here, and it's
Speaker 1: like I worked. So I walked with him down his
Speaker 1: garage and he had me picking up cinder blocks all
Speaker 1: day and over this summer. That's how my arms got
Speaker 1: so big. That's how I got yoke because I was
Speaker 1: working out with him. He had a construction company, so
Speaker 1: he would be down their building stuff and he had
Speaker 1: the smallest construction coming out and had he had one
Speaker 1: little bit. He ass um with bulldogs, you're like a
Speaker 1: little bit. He one right, everything else hand I had
Speaker 1: to so I had to pick up these big things, buckers,
Speaker 1: a cement, and then I knew he went home. It
Speaker 1: was another big dinner. You just went to big you
Speaker 1: took a bath, you went to Billy, you didn't talk back.
Speaker 1: My little brother he suffered the consequences of that because
Speaker 1: he went down there talking back and got that asked
Speaker 1: with manum switches. Man, they had a switch that was
Speaker 1: raped up off the tree and then switches down the Mississippi.
Speaker 1: Rap around your ass, around your arm. I saw my
Speaker 1: brother get his ass. Whoop. Dog. I ain't say nothing smart.
Speaker 1: I didn't say nothing smart, But man, I liked it
Speaker 1: down there. So you blew up and you built this
Speaker 1: fan base, and I'm pretty sure Universal Records wound up
Speaker 1: winning out. Was was it the Bignes War going on
Speaker 1: for your services? Uh? Yeah, man, it was Uh I
Speaker 1: think uh I forget the other the other rend cover
Speaker 1: that was kind of it was a Sony. It was
Speaker 1: this other one. Get what they they called Uh no, Atlantic,
Speaker 1: I think it might be Atlantic. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: might be Atlantic because Universal and another company. But you
Speaker 1: know Universal was putting the highest, you know, amount of
Speaker 1: bread on the table. That's what you do. You do
Speaker 1: you look like back now and do you feel like
Speaker 1: do you wish you would have stayed independent instead of
Speaker 1: signing a deal? No? Brother, you know, we manufacture rap songs.
Speaker 1: We sell them you know, like, um, I'm when I
Speaker 1: when I wrote because I got high. I was doing good,
Speaker 1: but I had a family, and you know how like
Speaker 1: when you got it hard and your family living with
Speaker 1: her family and they walking through the house, like when
Speaker 1: y'all gonna get your own place type of stuff and
Speaker 1: y'all starting to have kids and blah blah blah. So
Speaker 1: I was doing good, but I needed I needed some
Speaker 1: big boy money. I need some grown man money. You know.
Speaker 1: I had to have my little caddy and and and
Speaker 1: I had, you know, I had. It's like I need
Speaker 1: a house, you know. I needed to. I need to
Speaker 1: be in a position to tell my family. Come on,
Speaker 1: I got exactly established. Yeah, so, um I did. I
Speaker 1: pushed me to the limit. I mean, you know, there's
Speaker 1: only so much one man can do, and that I
Speaker 1: had a group of people telling me, you know, okay, uh,
Speaker 1: here's two hundred advanced, here's a million dollars publishing. You
Speaker 1: can have that little shoot I wrote on that piece
Speaker 1: of place. You know what I'm saying. Alright, some said,
Speaker 1: but they said, you gotta add a little ship. I
Speaker 1: won't give me that greed. Greed all day. You can
Speaker 1: take my high poetry I'm glad I did something with
Speaker 1: my high because I was just I was just working around,
Speaker 1: just trying to write some ship that just you know,
Speaker 1: doing something by life. Y'all. Gonny, give me a million
Speaker 1: publisher and two give it all here. I can have
Speaker 1: that ship that's your and I'm gonna go get a
Speaker 1: house and call some groceries and uh, you know, let
Speaker 1: me ask you. This broke. So you're in the house
Speaker 1: and you said, you've got people that's kind of they're
Speaker 1: being cool, but they're talking ship in a little when
Speaker 1: you got that check, did you flows on them any
Speaker 1: you know what, I couldn't do it. He was thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, like you want to do that when you
Speaker 1: in the house and they're talking ship and you're mad,
Speaker 1: that's when you want to do that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But after I got it, I was just
Speaker 1: happy to make it. I didn't feel like investing that
Speaker 1: kind of energy that all that in your face tight.
Speaker 1: At the same time, I didn't forget how they was,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I wasn't tripping, but
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, man, some of that shake
Speaker 1: hands after the game, some of that sportsmanship got got
Speaker 1: in me, you know, definitely. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, motherfuckering talking ship to you. It pitched you off,
Speaker 1: it hurt, but then after you win, you can just
Speaker 1: gonna be happy. Like they they see you, they remember
Speaker 1: that bullshit they said, most of them is still in
Speaker 1: the same position. So it really don't it really don't
Speaker 1: matter if you rub it in their face or not,
Speaker 1: because the motherfucker can already see that you didn't stepped
Speaker 1: up to you know, you live with a better position
Speaker 1: while they still struggling. So while rubbing in the motherfucker
Speaker 1: faith give me. That's just like when I tell kids
Speaker 1: on the and they just show it to any on
Speaker 1: the field. Let the nigga talk all day and point
Speaker 1: and do all that type of ship. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're still gonna show that you
Speaker 1: better as a motherfucker. And then you and then and
Speaker 1: they look at the scoreboard at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta do no more talking. You're gonna walk through.
Speaker 1: You're gonna walk across the field. You're gonna shake a
Speaker 1: nigger hand and tell them good game. And then we're
Speaker 1: gonna get on. We're gonna go back and feel the
Speaker 1: success while they be in the locker room kind of
Speaker 1: moaning over the ship. So sometimes you got to be
Speaker 1: the better, the bigger motherfucker get most of the time.
Speaker 1: Most of the time, I mean, you're watching motherfucking dunk
Speaker 1: and after he dunk, he go run over to the
Speaker 1: other dude and he like basting his face a little
Speaker 1: too long. You know, it kind of makes him look bad,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, damn on me,
Speaker 1: that's how you win. I mean, because a lot of
Speaker 1: motherfucker's expect you to be the best, the bigger motherfucker
Speaker 1: in the first place. You get me. Oh, you got
Speaker 1: some ship now, so why you gotta rub it in
Speaker 1: their fail? Okay you are? You know you you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So sometimes you gotta acknowledge that ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah all the time, man, You know what I find, man,
Speaker 1: Carma usually gotta wad creeping up on the motherfucker's ass anyway.
Speaker 1: So I've never been a things for a person because
Speaker 1: I've come from the mind state. Man. Look, I ain't
Speaker 1: going vestial energy and that negative bad ship. And I
Speaker 1: usually find when the motherfucker being filed and usually hit
Speaker 1: their ass back. Yeah, yeah, and usual here them right
Speaker 1: back in the mouth. Uh. I've i um, I've been
Speaker 1: I've been fucked up, and then some ship come back
Speaker 1: on me. And then I've seen some other people sucked up,
Speaker 1: some ship come back on them. And then sometimes I
Speaker 1: can get my revenge back with a little line in
Speaker 1: a rap song, you know, like you know that's for me,
Speaker 1: that's you know, they don't even listen to my mutic
Speaker 1: that satisfied your taste. But yeah, man, yeah they don't
Speaker 1: even missed them. I they don't play my music. So
Speaker 1: I'll say something, you know, like yeah, you know, something
Speaker 1: something like you know they caught the vaporish or you know,
Speaker 1: like the the ah, you know I went in the end,
Speaker 1: you know, and that you do like talking to I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta divorce. You made the whole project about it, man,
Speaker 1: he gotta he gotta the whole album about the ship
Speaker 1: talking a bunch of ship dog. But before we get
Speaker 1: to that, man, this is what I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about, because you're living Ohio, and I'm abrequently
Speaker 1: from Old Pridge to say, Ohio, Okay, you know that's
Speaker 1: my home, stumping around you out there. Now, you had
Speaker 1: the police department serve like they ready to Joe House,
Speaker 1: They ready to George State. Yeah, kicked your doors in
Speaker 1: and everything else. Stole money and all kinds of ship,
Speaker 1: stole money. He got him on camera. Dog like the
Speaker 1: video funny as a motherfucker because it showed him from
Speaker 1: the standpoint. What he did was he integrated the footage
Speaker 1: that he saw from them doing ship and he running
Speaker 1: through that motherfucker too, like he hired from him like
Speaker 1: this and pick up the couch when the couch and ship,
Speaker 1: you know what i mean. And that ship really happened.
Speaker 1: That's kind of some scary ship though, man, that the
Speaker 1: police can just come up in the motherfucker's crib like
Speaker 1: that dog on some speculationship. Yeah. Man. Uh. Somebody was
Speaker 1: telling me about the leader of the Click club Land
Speaker 1: being like this sheriff in Indiana. He takes this woman
Speaker 1: on this dirt road and he raped sir. And then
Speaker 1: the laddy tells of I'm calling the law. He was like,
Speaker 1: I am the law, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: America has a bully and one cannot investigate or arrest oneself,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know there's a
Speaker 1: guy in America that can do something to it, and
Speaker 1: nobody can't do nothing to him. Immunity or whatever. He goes.
Speaker 1: You have a busted head like you say, no, don't, yes,
Speaker 1: you do. She you don't get what I'm saying. What
Speaker 1: he's saying is I'm a legal criminal. I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a better criminal than you. So don't don't try to
Speaker 1: get uh, you know, bad with me, because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be badder. You know what I'm saying. And that's that,
Speaker 1: that's that thing. Yeah, uh coming y'all. Now, you got
Speaker 1: two types of people in this world. You've got good
Speaker 1: people and you've got bad people. So, you know, bad
Speaker 1: people joined the police. Bad people get jobs at McDonald's.
Speaker 1: Funk up your order, c can you pull up? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You're bad people everywhere. You know,
Speaker 1: so bad people gonna join the police department too. Hey boy, right,
Speaker 1: you know this is and that. But you know, uh yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know cops, cops come up in the house. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Uh, you know, uh, I moved
Speaker 1: over there. You know the black people in Cincinnati. They
Speaker 1: tell me about Adams County, and you know, I got high.
Speaker 1: I chased the girl over there. You know, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I do it all that that that MACTI in line.
Speaker 1: I've been a right since birth and the earth is
Speaker 1: I go anywhere I can afford. You know, I do
Speaker 1: whatever I want to do. And the land's real cheap
Speaker 1: over there. And so I'm living like a king out there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm I'm saying. And I know they
Speaker 1: got what's that? You know, I know I talked about
Speaker 1: weed a lot and I'm rapping about it, and you know,
Speaker 1: so they got probable cause to see if I if
Speaker 1: I got millions of pounds, this rumors going, oh, afro man,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, for twenty pounds over there, expecting
Speaker 1: to fund gets the whole push. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I'm rapping like you know, afro man, I got a
Speaker 1: pound of town. Oh yeah, they you you're gonna use that.
Speaker 1: It's you know nowadays ship they use what you say again,
Speaker 1: get them motherfucker's up there, you know, because they don't
Speaker 1: like weed in Indiana. And on top of that, you
Speaker 1: on there, they're looking at you, you signing all them
Speaker 1: little nice white booties and looking at mature your thing.
Speaker 1: You know, they're getting mad. They can't stand there. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm cashed. Know, it ain't all of them.
Speaker 1: I get a lot of love in that little country town.
Speaker 1: And but then then it's gonna be it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the it's gonna be the the you ain't too, you know,
Speaker 1: I get to do that. Don't like me, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's fine too. You know, they're sitting
Speaker 1: stare at me. And so this one lawyer was asked
Speaker 1: me why I was staying out there. I was like,
Speaker 1: I got more pie staying with the quick luck klaid that.
Speaker 1: Then in the hood, like cause they're gonna look at
Speaker 1: me and hate me, but they ain't gonna touch me.
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna do nothing to me. You know, my
Speaker 1: fucker's is gonna slide up on you and do what
Speaker 1: they gotta do. So it's like I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: I don't care about looks, and they leave me alone.
Speaker 1: But then some of them come up to me and
Speaker 1: want pictures and I'm cool and bom bom bom bom bom.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, the police department I trip with,
Speaker 1: somebody go out of their way to be fucked up
Speaker 1: to you when they when they have that's a little
Speaker 1: too much energy to be fucked up, you know, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like I needed that police report for my insurance.
Speaker 1: Somebody broken my motor home. I had just got back
Speaker 1: from a little tour. Somebody broken my motor home, and
Speaker 1: the insurance people was gonna replace a lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff they took, but they just needed the police report.
Speaker 1: So I just need to go through the motions to
Speaker 1: get the police report. Three days to come out there
Speaker 1: and take a report, like like what if you know,
Speaker 1: like they'll never catch a burglar, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like like I want to have cops get up off
Speaker 1: for traffic and go investigate all burglaries and murders, and
Speaker 1: until all of them is solved, don't be pulling nobody over,
Speaker 1: opening the new can of worms, shooting them, don't flesh,
Speaker 1: just doing all kind of new wild ship, you know.
Speaker 1: But three days to come over to my house. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: talking down didn't give me a copy. We don't give
Speaker 1: copies out to that. We have it at the station.
Speaker 1: And this then I'm like, I need a copy of
Speaker 1: the report for the nager. Yeah no, sir, don't get
Speaker 1: you know, I'm oh. And then when I when I
Speaker 1: called up to the station to follow up with the
Speaker 1: progress of the investigation. You know, they startedking like I
Speaker 1: was annoying them. So now that, sir, if you call
Speaker 1: up here again, it will get addressed. If motherfers didn't
Speaker 1: like yeah, man, so did I get it? You know
Speaker 1: the police department wasn't designed to serve and protecting me. Huh,
Speaker 1: you got the answer that song? Oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: yeah afterwards in the end, that's you know, a rapper
Speaker 1: gonna do what a rapper gonna do. You know what
Speaker 1: he said. You know, I'm gonna get my money off
Speaker 1: of them one way or another record. He get a divorce,
Speaker 1: you're making a disc record he get Adam's County police
Speaker 1: coming out was laughing like a motherfucker because you would,
Speaker 1: but like you like, like we were saying, it kind
Speaker 1: of just be uh, it just gotta be a hate
Speaker 1: motherfucker who just feels like I just want to harass
Speaker 1: some motherfucker because they because he's black, and because he
Speaker 1: lived in this county, And how motherfucker feels like because
Speaker 1: of the of your color or whatever you represent that
Speaker 1: it's places like that still that feel like why do
Speaker 1: you why do you live here? You get right, around.
Speaker 1: I used to get pulled over in certain areas and
Speaker 1: the first thing the motherfucker would ask me was what
Speaker 1: you're doing? What you're doing over here? Like what the
Speaker 1: fund do you mean by that? Like wheels on the card?
Speaker 1: You know? I'm a mom. When I fucking first moved
Speaker 1: to Marietta, and I went inside the subway coming from
Speaker 1: the gym, and it was highway patrolling there, and I mean,
Speaker 1: they're just trying to get something to eat from coming
Speaker 1: from the gym. But he in front of me, he
Speaker 1: came order because he's so busy looking at my tattoos, right,
Speaker 1: Like niggas ain't supposed to be in Marietta, right, So
Speaker 1: he can't even order because he's looking at my tattoos
Speaker 1: and ship. So the motherfucker's stepped back and asked me
Speaker 1: what you and he said, it's straight up, do you
Speaker 1: mind if I ask you what are you doing out here?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you mean by that? And
Speaker 1: the nigger straight up said, did you get paroled out here?
Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean. Did I get parole?
Speaker 1: Motherfucker out here? And they really like be having a
Speaker 1: hard time feeling like why do you pick here to
Speaker 1: move like, so he was really looking at you, like,
Speaker 1: what then you doing out here? Nika thought I got
Speaker 1: parole from prison, and you know, somebody once live in
Speaker 1: Marietta and that's where I got parole too, So I
Speaker 1: told him, no, nig I just moved out here. I
Speaker 1: thought it was a decent area, like like you know what,
Speaker 1: like you don't want to be safe and living a
Speaker 1: good community, That's what That's what tricks me out, like
Speaker 1: we don't want to be somewhere now it's nice and safe.
Speaker 1: The trip of it is is that it's motherfucker's who
Speaker 1: really feel like why did you pick here to move? Like,
Speaker 1: like basically we should be confined to certain areas and
Speaker 1: ship because so what I grew up in Counton and
Speaker 1: whatever whatever. Motherfucker somebody told me, oh, you should check
Speaker 1: out Marietta. The houses of the won't be getting banged
Speaker 1: for your buck. You know, I got a little kid,
Speaker 1: a son I want to raise out side of you know,
Speaker 1: being in the ship. But it's motherfucker's who will actually
Speaker 1: look at you and give you those looks when you
Speaker 1: walk through the grocery store, you pull up at the
Speaker 1: gas station, and this motherfucker' would be like what the fuck.
Speaker 1: It's like you picked here to move. I'm thinking I'm
Speaker 1: going somewhere that's you know, but it's it's still places
Speaker 1: like that, like you're saying, motherfucker's just give you the
Speaker 1: look like why this motherfucker pick? Why have on all
Speaker 1: places at a man could have moved, but why you
Speaker 1: picked the move to Adams County? Why when you're thinking
Speaker 1: like ship, I'm trying to go somewhere, give me some
Speaker 1: land and property and live like a king and be
Speaker 1: posted and and motherfucker's feel like why here? And then
Speaker 1: when they actually uh uh give you bad service and
Speaker 1: kind of got that yeah I did it type of attitude.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, like really
Speaker 1: go forward, like you know, whatever they do if if
Speaker 1: they work at McDonald's they mess up your order and
Speaker 1: don't share, or if the Walmart man with the oil
Speaker 1: here makes you way too long and don't share, and
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, just just just watching that
Speaker 1: extra hell and energy like like you know, just like
Speaker 1: if I don't like nobody, I say, I don't like that,
Speaker 1: but I don't go fun with the dude though, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He ain't bother me. I don't
Speaker 1: bother him. You know what I'm saying that, And that's
Speaker 1: I don't If I don't know you, ain't got no
Speaker 1: reason to not like you. You give me. That's my thing.
Speaker 1: If I don't know you, I don't have no reason
Speaker 1: to just not like you. You get me. I don't
Speaker 1: even know your motherfucker? So who who? I don't know?
Speaker 1: That's why I keep it at you. But like you said,
Speaker 1: you can move into a neighborhood and the minute the
Speaker 1: motherfucker see you, and you know they don't know shit
Speaker 1: about you, they just automatically, Why did motherfucker's move over here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you this too, especially you gotta
Speaker 1: think about this. With through eight, you probably got one
Speaker 1: of the biggest cribs out there. You probably got a
Speaker 1: spot with the most land out there too. No, there's
Speaker 1: some cowboys out there that you know me. Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: just doing me. Uh. My garage is bigger than my house.
Speaker 1: You know. I just wanted somewhere. I just want to
Speaker 1: keep all my little riders out the snow. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh, I got a nice little farmhouse.
Speaker 1: It's uh. I got two houses on ten anchors. So
Speaker 1: I I you know, I chased the girl out there
Speaker 1: and her brother had to land. Said I bought that
Speaker 1: there was some cheap land, so I bought it from him.
Speaker 1: I put up a house with her being her, he's
Speaker 1: arguing and fight on the time. So I go back
Speaker 1: to Mississippi. Every time we got in the I as
Speaker 1: Molan in Mississippi and should be like, oh baby, come back,
Speaker 1: come back. And I drive all the way back up
Speaker 1: and then we get another fight. I drive back to Mississippi.
Speaker 1: So what I did just bought the house next door
Speaker 1: when they went up for sale. So we're getting the fight.
Speaker 1: I just go next door and then I was gone,
Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, you know, dinner's ready. I
Speaker 1: come walking across the field. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I got ten I got two houses on ten
Speaker 1: acres and uh yeah, I got two houses on ten acres,
Speaker 1: one house on five kids whatever they on this side, whatever,
Speaker 1: And I go work in my other house. You know,
Speaker 1: I got my studio, you know, my rapping partners or
Speaker 1: my jumbies come over or whatever, peace come through time.
Speaker 1: They all come to my my little record company recording spot.
Speaker 1: But I got set up like a house. That's that's
Speaker 1: my man cave. I go over there. That's done with her.
Speaker 1: You know all I keep all my clothes over there,
Speaker 1: and ain't gonna be throwing my clothes in the yard.
Speaker 1: None of that's you know, messaging over Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: walked right back across the thing. But that's good. You've
Speaker 1: got your kids and everybody else. They over there so
Speaker 1: they still get to see Pops whenever they want. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So let me ask you this, bro,
Speaker 1: Because weed ain't legally on how yet? Uh, not recreationally, No,
Speaker 1: not recreationally, but I think it's gonna happen. It is.
Speaker 1: You know, have you ever thought, I'm pretty sure you haven't.
Speaker 1: One of the biggest week songs of all times, not
Speaker 1: the biggest week song of all the time. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's up for debate. You know. Um, you've had
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities, I assumed in the marijuana industry
Speaker 1: come your way because of that song. Have you ever
Speaker 1: thought about if it came legal on how it possibly
Speaker 1: throw on marijuana on that land? Yeah, I'm learning this,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, blah blah blah like
Speaker 1: uh there's twelve hours in a day. At some point
Speaker 1: a man gotta say, uh, I'm no longer a mechanic,
Speaker 1: I'm no longer a plumber. I'm a carpenter. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be a good ass carpenter, and I'm gonna go on.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I'm a I'm a rapper.
Speaker 1: You ain't getting man. I ain't no farmer, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know I ain't going It sounds good.
Speaker 1: I bought the land or man. I ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: like somebody, and that even somebody, I'm gonna be somewhere around.
Speaker 1: I've been out here twenty three years, and people still
Speaker 1: want to get high. I can't. I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: be at home long enough to consistently run a farmer.
Speaker 1: You know. I can't even grow corn and Kyla greens
Speaker 1: and like that. You know nothing. Question. Okay, So you've
Speaker 1: been rapping just about as long as I've been wrapping. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're still out there performing doing shows, whatever. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about people saying that it should be an
Speaker 1: age restriction for you wrap? No, Uh, that's the beautiful
Speaker 1: thing about music, See, it should be an age restricting
Speaker 1: for an athlete or something. But if he's out there
Speaker 1: doing good, let him go. You know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: what I like about being a musician as opposed to
Speaker 1: an athlete is I can sing till I die. Bob
Speaker 1: can't sat down on the stage hunting something else. I've
Speaker 1: been down hard and bade it ever since the day
Speaker 1: we met. And so that being said, I'm intrigued about
Speaker 1: being an old entertainer. I was intrigued by Chuck Berry.
Speaker 1: It didn't What intrigued me was how they get more
Speaker 1: money the older they get. And then it's like, we
Speaker 1: could have got that money at a young age, but
Speaker 1: our brains wasn't thinking like them, them dudes, his veterans.
Speaker 1: You know, Chuck Berry is a veteran. You know he
Speaker 1: he got what he got back with the little black
Speaker 1: and white pictures, and you know he was young, but
Speaker 1: I was watching him as a fifty year old man
Speaker 1: to his reunion. Rock and Roll is dead until Chuck
Speaker 1: Berry come to town. You see what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: Gas the Raptors old until you know eight Cuba or Maca,
Speaker 1: somebody you know from that era comes. Blues is dead
Speaker 1: until b B Kin come to Town BB King, he
Speaker 1: did that. He did that genre right. They know the
Speaker 1: blues is alive. And then, just like real estate, it
Speaker 1: gets more value the older you get. You know, I
Speaker 1: go out to a club, they don't play nothing I
Speaker 1: grew up on. Now, So a dude come up old
Speaker 1: school night with j eighties, hundred dollars at the dough.
Speaker 1: I got to pay it because the music I used
Speaker 1: to listen to is valuable to me. It's it's so
Speaker 1: valuable that I gotta pay this extra dollar to hear it.
Speaker 1: In order to make this guy keep cranking it out
Speaker 1: for me, I gotta give him an incentive to do it.
Speaker 1: I gotta let him know that these songs are a demand.
Speaker 1: So I gotta pay extra money to see something I
Speaker 1: like now, or I gotta go see something I don't like.
Speaker 1: I gotta go see Takashi six nine. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I gotta go see. I gotta go pay.
Speaker 1: But if I want to watch Cube and Foti and
Speaker 1: eight and and that good stuff I grew up with, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: let's go brother. Yeah. Well, you know what I noticed,
Speaker 1: hip probably fifty years old this year, maybe fifty years
Speaker 1: old this year. Hip hop is the only music genre,
Speaker 1: and that was, you know, hard from people's age. But
Speaker 1: I got interesting factory statistic for y'all. I never heard
Speaker 1: nobody in the streets saying somebody was too old to wrap.
Speaker 1: I've heard white folks in those offices though, when I
Speaker 1: was a and R in the publishing you know, the
Speaker 1: publishing world. Oh he's a little mature and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about twenty nine thirty years old. Like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about. We're not gonna sign him because he's not
Speaker 1: used to Like anybody that could wrap. You could be
Speaker 1: in jail if you could wrap dollar. This is an
Speaker 1: old man used to play chess with me and he
Speaker 1: had saved these. He was like, uh, here it was.
Speaker 1: It was I got. I kind of got a little
Speaker 1: bit of I got to got that introduction to my
Speaker 1: crazy wrap from He was like, it was just sundown
Speaker 1: in the border town built at the gates of Hell,
Speaker 1: where the women and men it does this sin, but
Speaker 1: it's much too violent to tell. There came a man
Speaker 1: walking through the land named Bootheill Flash McCoy. He played
Speaker 1: with his gun in the morning sun like a kid
Speaker 1: would play with his toy. He was wandering around and
Speaker 1: hating him town. Therefore he kept much to himself. The
Speaker 1: man was so fast he took a looking glass and
Speaker 1: beat his motherfucking selling. He was talking about his cowboys,
Speaker 1: and you know, like he was a good rapper, you know,
Speaker 1: Dolar Mike. I was born in a barrel of butcher knives,
Speaker 1: shot nash to cot, I drunk an ocean eight to el,
Speaker 1: I chew railroad iron and shoot out steal and boom
Speaker 1: boom boom. They were. They were rappers, and there was
Speaker 1: old man. And the old man had funnier rhymes. This
Speaker 1: is blood fly the master class. I'm hit a sock sualtass,
Speaker 1: you know. And then I watched the old people in church,
Speaker 1: the old women get up there and sitting they tell
Speaker 1: to play something, the old gospel groups, the mighty clouds
Speaker 1: that Jodans up. Yeah, so I'd have seen too many
Speaker 1: old people do it better then young people and then
Speaker 1: teach them. And that's what it should be, man, And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Hip hop Bob be only fifty
Speaker 1: years old. I think we're in the place now to
Speaker 1: where you're seeing like there's a whole bunch of cats
Speaker 1: getting on that thirty thirty five. Now, I don't think
Speaker 1: you know, if that was the case, Roth didn't really
Speaker 1: get on until he was thirty four thirty five. Man,
Speaker 1: that dude was an old man that made hat sideways
Speaker 1: with japans hanging down. How was he? Man? That was
Speaker 1: the old as man? What was song was that? He
Speaker 1: probably touring right now singing that song? Was that? Uh?
Speaker 1: Some old man? You see he was talking about young brothers.
Speaker 1: He was like, you got your hat sideways in your
Speaker 1: pants hanging down? He went, yeah, we went. He probably
Speaker 1: someone making some money. It's just like that girl that
Speaker 1: had that horrible ast song back in the day. What
Speaker 1: was that? Ship is so cold and the d remember
Speaker 1: that ship? It's so coldly the she had a crack
Speaker 1: and I think she had like twenty thirty million views
Speaker 1: or some ship like that. Man. So it's like music
Speaker 1: is very music is very very subjective thing. Man. It's
Speaker 1: all in with a motherfucker Like and if a motherfucker's
Speaker 1: steal jamming dog while getting this motherfucker money, should I
Speaker 1: don't give a nick ade. Hey, we're in the next generation.
Speaker 1: You think you're gonna be able to ever stop singing?
Speaker 1: The hood took me under? Hell no, you think you'll
Speaker 1: ever be able to stop y'all. The mortalized Dog. That's
Speaker 1: one thing that music does to our heroes. You get
Speaker 1: it mortalize to the records, Like that song's gonna live
Speaker 1: on forever, Dog, because it's it's like a hit point
Speaker 1: in time in history. Because I got high time stamping history.
Speaker 1: People are gonna be listening to that ship a hundred
Speaker 1: years from our Dog, when we're not even here no more.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be looking at this podcast. Could be like
Speaker 1: that was the nigga, right this that dude went on
Speaker 1: to do this? And do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we're in the dope ast period of time, Dog,
Speaker 1: Everything is documented, can't nobody front? Yeah? Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: ain't over to you dead, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: if you got breadth in your body, you can do something.
Speaker 1: Roddy Dangerfield didn't blow up too. He was an old man.
Speaker 1: It took him. He had to live his life to
Speaker 1: real he had to live his whole life to realize.
Speaker 1: He didn't get no respect. Did he had something to say?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, yeah, one more
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to get into with you real quick.
Speaker 1: You have a very musical background. You are more musical
Speaker 1: than the average rapper, Like you played the bass, and
Speaker 1: you produce all your own ship, right, not all of
Speaker 1: it now you know, of course I'll be politicing and
Speaker 1: working with people like you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: if you got a dope beat, I'll take it, I'll
Speaker 1: wrap or I want everything good. I want everything I
Speaker 1: got good. I want everything you got good. Uh, I
Speaker 1: do be. I do work with other people. But when
Speaker 1: I first started, I didn't have no money and no cloud,
Speaker 1: you know, so I was making all my tracks. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah that wounded up being a benefit for you actually,
Speaker 1: or I would say yeah, yeah, man, because you know
Speaker 1: they have to pay nobody, like I hear at first,
Speaker 1: everybody was wrapping off of a sample, you know, but
Speaker 1: I'd hear I was a baseline type of man, and
Speaker 1: I'd hear too short. I hear guitars and it wasn't
Speaker 1: a sample. They might they might play something I heard ish,
Speaker 1: but I heard life is not heard. City of Dope.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't have to hire something
Speaker 1: dude to loop me, no record or nothing. I can
Speaker 1: just if I can get a drum machine. My biggest
Speaker 1: thing was playing to the beat, so you didn't hear
Speaker 1: some of my ship just to sound sloppy and like
Speaker 1: my base, like my baseline didn't sound sloppy, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I started liking base most out
Speaker 1: might like the baseline in a wrap song Don't do
Speaker 1: Don't done do do dot dot Dude doo dude do
Speaker 1: do doo doo doo doode all the time. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know, uh so it worked out. I forgot I
Speaker 1: knew how to play the good tar. When I was
Speaker 1: in Mississippi. I was playing, you know, playing good tars
Speaker 1: and stuff. When I got to l A. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, cats had radios and and
Speaker 1: we were just playing rap tapes and stuff. So I was,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to be cool with you know, the
Speaker 1: l A home he saw old people make me bring
Speaker 1: my guitar out and play it. But what I forget
Speaker 1: I played it, you know, said. But when I started
Speaker 1: rapping and I didn't had no money to pay people
Speaker 1: to give me instrumentals, you know, I got me a
Speaker 1: drum machine and I tuned that base up and put
Speaker 1: that lead track on there. Yes, it um, it saved
Speaker 1: me a lot. Of money, and he gave me the
Speaker 1: sound I wanted, you know, like I like so like
Speaker 1: Isaac Hayes, Uh do your thing, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like like the baseline, don't give it up, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like so I'll be wanting them. So yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah I didn't. I didn't do um when I started off.
Speaker 1: I didn't like, I didn't want to wrap to the
Speaker 1: typical when everybody else was doing everybody was doing Parliament,
Speaker 1: everybody doing funkadelic or so we used to. I used
Speaker 1: to listen to ship like Isaac Hayes the Meters and
Speaker 1: ship like that, and that's what we got our sounds from.
Speaker 1: But I didn't. I didn't just I didn't want to
Speaker 1: do like you know easy and everybody was doing the
Speaker 1: Parliament that ship and we talked about that. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just felt like I wanted to come from a different
Speaker 1: direction than what other niggers. I wanted to tell stories
Speaker 1: like I didn't want to be like our fast paced
Speaker 1: and whatever. I want to tell the niggas like who
Speaker 1: came through the hood last night and dried to blast.
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell niggas like and I felt like
Speaker 1: you had to do that two more sinister fucking like
Speaker 1: you said, baseline type of ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I never felt when I started writing raps because Nigga
Speaker 1: I was still on the book. I was still in
Speaker 1: Dragnew every day you give me. Even when I was
Speaker 1: making records and still touring and all of that, I
Speaker 1: would get off the plane and go right to the
Speaker 1: block because I still felt like that's where I wanted
Speaker 1: to be. So my music was always about what was
Speaker 1: going on in the neighborhood. I didn't know ship else,
Speaker 1: I said. I didn't ship up until the only thing
Speaker 1: we did was went to Mississippi and came back, and
Speaker 1: we came straight back to Compton. So when I started
Speaker 1: making music, I didn't want to be all like just
Speaker 1: I didn't give a funk about mel Fucker's dancing. I
Speaker 1: didn't give a funk about NI. I wanted niggas sitting
Speaker 1: their cars and listening to my ship talk about one
Speaker 1: time came through last night, so and so I went
Speaker 1: to jail. The niggers across the street came through, or
Speaker 1: the enemies came through, or so and so did this,
Speaker 1: or the home he got jacked, and you know that's all.
Speaker 1: That's all we That's all I knew, So I didn't
Speaker 1: want to talk about ship else. It's crazy that was
Speaker 1: your thing, man. You know what, do I think all
Speaker 1: that stuff serves this place in the body of music?
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. I think everybody listening to
Speaker 1: people for a move because I know I was really
Speaker 1: up on I was really you on your stuff, man,
Speaker 1: like real heavy. But a month ago he was listening
Speaker 1: to it. Man, I said this, dude, because the six
Speaker 1: you'll be saying be funny as a motherfucker dog, but
Speaker 1: to be some real ship, like I can feel when
Speaker 1: you're coming from what I can say, Man, he's mad
Speaker 1: on this mother really clowning up. You know what I'm saying. Now,
Speaker 1: these people when they hear these records. When your ex
Speaker 1: wife uter record, man, was she mad? Is anybody was threatening?
Speaker 1: Like a law suit? You know? People real lategious now
Speaker 1: a days. That's how I look at it. One of
Speaker 1: my urges was to beat their ass. But I took
Speaker 1: all bad energy and wrote lyricus. Then I put some
Speaker 1: music down. What I was trying to do is convert
Speaker 1: that bad energy into some money, something positive. All that
Speaker 1: energy you'll get a homeboy going through it with his woman.
Speaker 1: He called you up. He talking. Now you're listening. He
Speaker 1: ain't making no money. You ain't making no money because
Speaker 1: you're listening to him. All of this energy is going
Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. How do you turn that badages?
Speaker 1: She was on my mind. I was angry about it,
Speaker 1: so I just you know, I got to I got
Speaker 1: to I got to get paid that if you take
Speaker 1: so much of my time, I got to convert that
Speaker 1: into money, because we only got tied. You can get
Speaker 1: money back, but you can't get that. You know, she
Speaker 1: get off in your head and she she messing up
Speaker 1: your time. You know, then it's obviously something your mind
Speaker 1: is on it. So then I just started writing, you know,
Speaker 1: boom boom, And then I was just trying to change
Speaker 1: all of that, all that hostility, This that the other
Speaker 1: converted into some money. Maybe somebody can relate to it,
Speaker 1: and then it is there. If a guy listen, if
Speaker 1: a guy gets mad at this girl and he listened
Speaker 1: to that album, he relates to it. Here laugh But
Speaker 1: he won't. He won't, he won't hit her, he won't
Speaker 1: do anything that's going to mess up his life. He's
Speaker 1: gonna do the next best thing. Leave. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: go get him, Go get into some money, go get
Speaker 1: something better, you know what I say, Like I was,
Speaker 1: I had the solution. I presented the problem. But I
Speaker 1: I presented the solution, you know, um and I you
Speaker 1: know I'd be like, fuck you bitch, goodbye. I had
Speaker 1: to walk out the house today. You always got something
Speaker 1: to say. Some dude's gonna relate to that, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I took all that energy and and that song
Speaker 1: sounds better than me. Then the reality of squad cars
Speaker 1: being there and me jumping on her, the kids watching
Speaker 1: me jump on her, you know, still in still all
Speaker 1: of that, that last argument you gave. Daddy made the
Speaker 1: Family two hundred and fifty thousand. It was one of
Speaker 1: my smallest selling records, but you know it went to
Speaker 1: something positively, you know, Boom boom boom. So yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that was just me turning that bad energy into
Speaker 1: some money. You know, have you ever have you ever
Speaker 1: done any actor? Every day? I just needed to get
Speaker 1: in a real movie and get hey, well we got something.
Speaker 1: You know, we got some plays. We find the run man.
Speaker 1: We got some plays for sure in that world that
Speaker 1: we find the run man. I really appreciate you man,
Speaker 1: coming on. Man, it's been one of my most and
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have a lot of people on
Speaker 1: this show eight and this has definitely been one of
Speaker 1: my most enjoyable because you you've got a dope as
Speaker 1: spirit about yourself, man, like your energy is on. Your
Speaker 1: energy is right man, because I'll be feeling stuff, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You got a real positive for
Speaker 1: word about yourself. Man. You know, so I look forward
Speaker 1: to the things that we go, you know, doing more
Speaker 1: business and you know, shopping up some more things, man,
Speaker 1: new projects, anything coming up there? Yes, I got an
Speaker 1: album coming out February one. It's called Famous Player. I'm
Speaker 1: a Famous Player, dude doing the best star game. Dude,
Speaker 1: putting some paint where it ain't trying to be a
Speaker 1: better man. Uh, Famous Player that's coming out. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: people go subscribe to my YouTube channel o g Afroman
Speaker 1: uh Finnis. Start doing a bunch of little shows on
Speaker 1: my on my YouTube channel. If you've got a product
Speaker 1: or service you want to advertise, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Hit me up, hit up my man Josh on my
Speaker 1: Instagram so we can get you a commercial. You know
Speaker 1: why the ain't cheap, right now, vote for out from man, President.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Legalize cannabis all fifty states. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Reparations for slavery for the actors, and the mute. I
Speaker 1: want my mute to a man. Yeah, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do a bunch of stuff. You know, if you
Speaker 1: was a if you as a natural man and you
Speaker 1: switched over, you cannot be in the female sports. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Man, cut off all this foolish Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, we're gonna make the bathrooms make
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put prayer back into school. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm gonna bring um. You know, I will
Speaker 1: secure the border and everything. Asked me to tell you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I ain't right, but I'm honest.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's one of the things before we go.
Speaker 1: They're really tripping me out in your platform. Man, all
Speaker 1: this foreign a You said we could foreign out to
Speaker 1: these other countries. Yeah, we got some foreign as going
Speaker 1: to the Africans, African Americans. You know, yeah, we need that.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna do a study about man every notthing.
Speaker 1: And I hear somebody in for them talking about how
Speaker 1: the government you know, gave you know, the natives their
Speaker 1: their own land, gave them their casinos, like they got
Speaker 1: their own set of rules inside of the American rules.
Speaker 1: Like you know, we can't get nothing. We're gonna get it.
Speaker 1: We can't. We gotta we gotta like we ain't. You
Speaker 1: know what some people who come from different countries wars whatever.
Speaker 1: They come here. They get houses, they get the open businesses.
Speaker 1: Not saying that, you know, like you know, back in
Speaker 1: the days, you know, they had Black Wall Street whatever
Speaker 1: and you know they burned it down and all that.
Speaker 1: Not saying that weaker, But why is it so r
Speaker 1: two give black people that ease that they give the
Speaker 1: other races, right man? Uh, you know the complete opposite,
Speaker 1: Like you said, they fucked over the Indians. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: then the scot whatever they gets and they get whatever,
Speaker 1: but we got you know, black people got sucked over. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know what don't want And even the Bible say,
Speaker 1: he was like, you're joking back, you have not because
Speaker 1: you asked not, you know, like we asked. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm telling people to vote for me. You know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna ask the country we need these things. If the
Speaker 1: country don't give it to if I get in the office,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll take it. You know. You tell your homeboy,
Speaker 1: your homeboy come to yours, like, hey, fix me a sandwich.
Speaker 1: You'd be like, no, it's a refrigerator. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The man names the knife in the drawer.
Speaker 1: I might have to do it like that, you know,
Speaker 1: I might have to go in there and and and say, hey,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna get it. But you know, you put
Speaker 1: me in office, I'm gonna pay. You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get into the Federal reserve. Pair everybody for slabory. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna set up land that's not being used that can
Speaker 1: go two to descend into slaves. You know what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 1: all these I drive through them all the time. I've
Speaker 1: been driving across country. I'm like, I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: they doing with this? You know what I mean? It's
Speaker 1: just out there, you know, And I know people probably
Speaker 1: ain't gonna leave New York and wherever they live and
Speaker 1: come to that land. But you know, if we discussed
Speaker 1: it all they could get some of that land off
Speaker 1: the freeway. You know what I'm saying, all that open land.
Speaker 1: You know, each black person could get an acre. But
Speaker 1: they even said that forty acres in the mute, you know,
Speaker 1: ge wiz. Now, I don't know the population then and
Speaker 1: the population now, but if the population of black people
Speaker 1: is the same and they was offering forty acres back then,
Speaker 1: then you know, I noticed how I live better now
Speaker 1: that I've got space. You know, I think if a
Speaker 1: lot of black people have some space, or people all
Speaker 1: human beings need space. If they have some space, I
Speaker 1: think they'd be they'll be better off. It's more therapeutic.
Speaker 1: I got. I can turn my music up. I'm not
Speaker 1: annoying another person. Uh you know, I can grow my
Speaker 1: my My bush is up. Don't even see that. Probably
Speaker 1: really be in my own world, really be my castle.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Um, people need land, People
Speaker 1: need space. You know all these homeless people, these look
Speaker 1: your rent you pay five thousand dollars for for a
Speaker 1: little hobby hole. Man, all that stuff driving you crazy
Speaker 1: after a while. Need some space for real, man. Man.
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure, man, definitely, it's been a pleasure man.
Speaker 1: And y'all heard what it is? Giving that one more
Speaker 1: time through. Yes, it's gonna be February, the first February. First,
Speaker 1: go get that new Appleman album Famous Playing. Go get
Speaker 1: that album Lemon pound Cake. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: with all the songs on there and talking about the
Speaker 1: Adams County shaff Department, You know what I mean, turn
Speaker 1: that bad thing into a good thing a song. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a good time. Will you help me repair
Speaker 1: my door? Whire you disconnecting my video camera? Yeah? Hey man,
Speaker 1: you know I gotta get one from you before you go. Man,
Speaker 1: can we get up? Man, I've just smoking so much.
Speaker 1: Well I can barely do that anyway. Yeah, we're going well.
Speaker 1: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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