WEBVTT - #481 Packers Unscripted: Snowy success

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford, sitting next to my trusted colleague

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<v Speaker 1>West Hodkuwitz. Were coming to you here from our studios

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<v Speaker 1>at lambeau Field. We are back from New Jersey, a

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<v Speaker 1>snowy and rainy New Jersey. About that fresh off at

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<v Speaker 1>victory for the Packers over the Giants, one of those

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<v Speaker 1>December football games that was fun to watch. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little bit fun to play in, but

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<v Speaker 1>also somewhat difficult to play and it was a challenging

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<v Speaker 1>weather day in East brother first, so this was really interesting. Afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>Tremont Williams was talking with the media and he mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>for him, you know, thirty six years old, however long

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<v Speaker 1>he's playing this league now, he'd never been a part

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<v Speaker 1>of a game quite like that. In terms of you

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<v Speaker 1>and I were doing the periscope before the game. It's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like hailing on us. It was rain, to hail,

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<v Speaker 1>back to rain, to snow, and then it ended in rain.

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<v Speaker 1>As we were leaving the stadium, it was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pouring in Jersey as week as we were

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<v Speaker 1>getting on the buses to go to the airport. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was also you know, it's a unique playing surface

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<v Speaker 1>though too right, because it's a turf field that it's

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<v Speaker 1>an outdoor turf field, so unlike Lambeau Field, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>snow that falls, it just stays there. They have to

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<v Speaker 1>shovel it off. And I mean, I actually got to

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<v Speaker 1>be thankful that they didn't get more snow because then

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<v Speaker 1>they would have really had problems. Um, but yeah, take

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<v Speaker 1>that all away. A very fun game to watch in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of adding an additional element to it to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ramp up some of the excitement. Well, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the prettiest victory by any means for the Packers, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was tight for a while. It was seventeen to

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen late into the third quarter, but the Packers got

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<v Speaker 1>the drive that they needed and uh, as I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>about in my postgame editorial on the plane coming back,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit of Aaron Rodgers magic that the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers needed to get that touched on drive seventeen to thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>you need a fourth and ten conversion to Geronimo Allison

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<v Speaker 1>with Marcus Golden bearing down on Aaron Rodgers, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>to pass away for the completion and the first down

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<v Speaker 1>and then a first and goal at the one turns

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<v Speaker 1>into third and goal from the seventeen after a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of tackles for loss and a penalty in there, and

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers catches the Giants with twelve men on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>catches him in a substitution, gets the free play. Davante

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<v Speaker 1>Adams is open in the end zone, touchdown, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers are back up by two scores, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>in control the rest of the way. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>what you know. Sometimes we'll sit here and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about an incredible throw. Aaron Rodgers made you think of

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<v Speaker 1>the Aaron Jones one earlier this season. You think of

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Kumero along the sideline, You think of all these

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<v Speaker 1>different moments that he's had. The reason that Geronimo Allison

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<v Speaker 1>place stands out to me, though it's not like he

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<v Speaker 1>made the world's greatest throw, but his vision and his

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<v Speaker 1>ability to see Allison come open in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the field a critical fourth and tent situation. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>they actually were pretty good on third downs, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was because, you know, in some cases they did have

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<v Speaker 1>favorable down and distance. In other cases, Aaron Rodgers just

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<v Speaker 1>made it work. Uh. I think one of the DeVante

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<v Speaker 1>catches was in that they converted on a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>defensive pass interference penalties. But with the running game kind

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<v Speaker 1>of being held in check against the Giants, and the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>if you watched the way those inside linebackers are playing,

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<v Speaker 1>they were selling out to stop the run, especially up

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. Yeah, that defensive front came as advertised against

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<v Speaker 1>the run. They shut down the run, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get a whole lot of pressure on Rogers, and Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>was very well protected. The offensive line had a really

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<v Speaker 1>good day in past protection, but they did struggle to

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<v Speaker 1>generate some things up front and the running game. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't if the running game isn't consistently moving,

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<v Speaker 1>the pylon isn't consistently moving the sticks for you, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to throw the ball. And although

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<v Speaker 1>it was not advantageous conditions for that, Rogers made at work.

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<v Speaker 1>Al Lazard comes out forty three yard catch right off

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the game. In Lazard had two of

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<v Speaker 1>those catches in this game, like both in the first quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones where I say I always I call those

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<v Speaker 1>the you verse you catches where there he's completely wide

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<v Speaker 1>open It's like the Randall Cobb catch against the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>back in thirteen. Yeah, nobody's defending you. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>threat of imminent danger from a safety. You just have

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<v Speaker 1>to make the play in Lazard did that on the

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<v Speaker 1>forty three yarder. He also did on the thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>yard touchdown, ends up resulting in his first hundred yard game.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so thankful. If there was anything that I

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<v Speaker 1>was so pleased about with this game, Davante Adams had

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<v Speaker 1>two touchdowns, So we can throw out this terrible narrative about, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have any touchdowns at all. Okay, Davante Adams has.

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<v Speaker 1>He has thirty se in his career. Now at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's gonna score touchdowns. Just fill your columns

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<v Speaker 1>the way you need to fill them. But the time's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end there that that that that's gonna go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Adams played well, Alison made. It was just those two catches,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were credible important the one on fourth and ten,

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<v Speaker 1>the one on third and five. The receiver stepped up

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<v Speaker 1>and then, certainly, as Roger said after the game, a

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful touchdown, a special touchdown, being able to get his

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<v Speaker 1>first connection with with Mercedes Lewis and the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>his thirty eight different receiver now to catch a touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>from Rogers. They lifted him when they needed to be lifted. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the reason I keep going back to that

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<v Speaker 1>drive that spanned the end of the third beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter is you know, if you don't convert

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth and ten to Allison, the Giants are getting

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<v Speaker 1>the ball back at seventeen. If you don't get the

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown on third and goal from the seventeen and you

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<v Speaker 1>tack on three, it's still a one score game. It's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty to thirteen and the Giants are getting the ball

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<v Speaker 1>back only down by seven. That drive, that drive was

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<v Speaker 1>so critical. And then after that the Packers came back defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>On the next two possessions back to back, they get

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<v Speaker 1>interceptions of rookie quarterback Daniel Jones the second and third

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<v Speaker 1>picks of the game. Kevin King had one in the

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<v Speaker 1>first half. Then Darnell Savage and Tremont Williams get the

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<v Speaker 1>airs in the second half. And I had talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this last week West and I don't remember if it

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<v Speaker 1>was on this show or on Final Thoughts or which

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<v Speaker 1>one of our video productions it was, but now we're

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<v Speaker 1>up to four times this season that the Packers defense

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<v Speaker 1>has not generated a turnover in a game. San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>was the fourth time that had happened, and now all

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<v Speaker 1>four times the next game when the Packers have not

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<v Speaker 1>had a turnover, they've had multiple takeaways. Defensively, this defense

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<v Speaker 1>has its issues. Again. They gave up a few too

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<v Speaker 1>many big plays, especially to a rookie quarterback. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>they did hold see Kwan Barkley pretty well in check

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<v Speaker 1>given those conditions. But this defense, it's it's there. They're

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<v Speaker 1>a takeaway defense. West, I think, I think you know

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<v Speaker 1>they are what they are at this point. And when

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<v Speaker 1>they can make those kinds of plays when they can

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<v Speaker 1>force a bad throw from a quarterback with pressure. Packers

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get any sacks, but the pressure led to at

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<v Speaker 1>least a couple of those three interceptions. Sure, when they

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<v Speaker 1>can make plays like that, the Packers become a complimentary team.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the defense does it's part, The offense does

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<v Speaker 1>its part when the defense doesn't make those plays, because

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to give up plays. They've shown the pattern

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<v Speaker 1>now for a long time. They're going to give up

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<v Speaker 1>plays and and some things like that are going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they don't make those plays going the other way,

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<v Speaker 1>then it just all sort of falls on Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Packers are in trouble, right And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of key points to this. The first one

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<v Speaker 1>is there have been times in recent weeks where the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers could stop drives with an interception. They haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>able to catch those balls where they were inches away

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<v Speaker 1>from making a play. Kyler Facral had an opportunity at

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<v Speaker 1>a strip sack late in That ball would take like

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<v Speaker 1>ninety total yards off of the Giants total if he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to make it, But be that as it may,

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<v Speaker 1>missed it by an eyelash. Kevin King and Darnell Savage

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<v Speaker 1>had again give me interceptions where the ball is thrown

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<v Speaker 1>directly to you. The pressure was in Neil Jones face.

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<v Speaker 1>It forces the rookie quarterback into making a mistake, and

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<v Speaker 1>they made him. Tremon Williams I tweeted this during the game,

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<v Speaker 1>that interception he made. That is is close to those

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<v Speaker 1>defensive back pass catching drills that they run during training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the two defensive backs going against each other

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<v Speaker 1>and the guy just has to go up and high

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<v Speaker 1>point the ball down the sign like Truman Williams did

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<v Speaker 1>that to exactly the point that he should have. The

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<v Speaker 1>remark was made afterwards about his leaping ability, his vertical

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<v Speaker 1>all of that is still relatively intact for a veteran

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<v Speaker 1>defensive back, but Trumon Williams absolutely high pointed it where

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<v Speaker 1>he needed to be to get that ball. The three takeaways,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, that is the bread and butter of

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay. You and I. One of our big emphasis

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<v Speaker 1>going into this game was being able to take the

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<v Speaker 1>ball away against an offense that has given it away

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<v Speaker 1>as much as they have this season, a rookie quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>who's had trouble protecting the ball. That's been Daniel Jones's

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<v Speaker 1>biggest problem as a rookie, and he fumbled again one

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<v Speaker 1>after they boarded play. And here's the deal, Mike, you

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<v Speaker 1>can flash it back if Marvin wants to bring it

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<v Speaker 1>up by all means go ahead. From final thoughts when

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about this on Friday, the Packers need to stop,

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<v Speaker 1>say Kwon Barkley. They mostly did. He did not have

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<v Speaker 1>an explosive gain on the on the ground. He only

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<v Speaker 1>averaged four point four carry you'll take that against q

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<v Speaker 1>qu especially on a day on a day like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're going to give up yards, okay, be

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<v Speaker 1>that as it may, but that makes the common denominator

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<v Speaker 1>in all this takeaways and Aaron Rodgers is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to give the ball away. The Packers protected the football

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<v Speaker 1>and those elements and the Giants had three of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you look at the final score and the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the passer ratings worked out, that was the difference. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the difference in the game. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>go back to Alan Lazard for a second because you

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned it his first hundred yard game of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>He did it on three catches forty three yards thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven yards and what was three of my sports math, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>three explosive plays. He gets his first career hundred yard game.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out, I guess I was a week early on

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Lazard because coming out of the bye week, if

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<v Speaker 1>you recall, I wrote about him on the website, I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about him on this show, I talked about him

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<v Speaker 1>on Final Thoughts. I called him my player to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I really felt heading into the bye week that Alan

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<v Speaker 1>Lazard was showing that he he is evolving into the

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<v Speaker 1>number two receiver in this offense. And yesterday against the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't happen for him in San Francisco. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a week early in all of my hype for him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he came up with his second really really big

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<v Speaker 1>performance of the season. Um and uh against the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the guy really that that got the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>going early and uh. I have to believe after a

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<v Speaker 1>performance like that that he the snaps the opportunities he

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<v Speaker 1>really is going to merge. I think as as the

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<v Speaker 1>number two option behind Davante Adams, as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers are considered. Yeah, I agree with you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to look quickly to see how he played

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven of the sixty seven snaps forty two for Toronto,

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<v Speaker 1>Allison and obviously DeVante leading that group with fifty two.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he's playing more and more and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see that just because of what he offers and

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<v Speaker 1>what he brings to the table. The thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>continue to be completely awe struck by is that this

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<v Speaker 1>guy went undrafted. I mean, Iowa State is not the

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa State of ten years ago. Remind you he did

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<v Speaker 1>go through some losing years, but he was a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the uptick over there. And you know, there were

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<v Speaker 1>so many people that got fixated on his speed and

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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned to you last week, even in San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco on the end a round, he had the second

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<v Speaker 1>fastest next gen speed that was timed. Now he's made

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<v Speaker 1>a series of changes with his diet. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>enabled him to be able to pull that out of himself.

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<v Speaker 1>But six ft five, this is a prototype receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what you want to have in what he

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<v Speaker 1>offers to an offense. And Aaron Rodgers picked up on

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<v Speaker 1>that really early in camp uh when we're all the

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<v Speaker 1>discussion was still on the three rookies from last year

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<v Speaker 1>and in Coumero and everybody else, and rightfully so, they

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<v Speaker 1>all had their moments. Alan Lazard was the most consistent

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<v Speaker 1>throughout that entire summer and it enabled him to. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta remember this guy was cut on final cuts,

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<v Speaker 1>but he came right back much like Geran wo Allison

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<v Speaker 1>did in sixteen and has just been, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a godsend for this offense and and what he's been

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<v Speaker 1>asked to do. So I just the thing that stands

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<v Speaker 1>out to me from the very beginning with him is,

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<v Speaker 1>and Roger spoke on this two weeks ago, there isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a deer in the headlights thing with him. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>care that he was undrafted. He doesn't care that he

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<v Speaker 1>spent last year on a practice squad, he doesn't care

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<v Speaker 1>that he started this year on a practice squad. He

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<v Speaker 1>just wants to play football. And if you put him

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<v Speaker 1>in that predicament, if he gets himself open downfield, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to drop the ball. He is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be up for it. And the amount of big plays

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<v Speaker 1>that he's made this year averaging fifteen yards of catch.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, Alan Lazard is a problem man, and offenses

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna have to start scheming for him because it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't just Davante Adams. And Adams said he said this

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<v Speaker 1>to guys in the huddle, you know, and I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>about this in the game notes. So many years it

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<v Speaker 1>was Jordy Nelson, Cobb and then Adams or and or

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<v Speaker 1>James Jones. Pick your your poison. That the last year,

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<v Speaker 1>it's showing that this when this offense is at its maximum,

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<v Speaker 1>there are multiple guys that you have to account for

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<v Speaker 1>because any of them can step up at a given time. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna put any of them right now in

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<v Speaker 1>the category of Nelson and Cobb. No, But when you

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<v Speaker 1>have that many different guys that after that many different skills,

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<v Speaker 1>it is what enables you in any given week for

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<v Speaker 1>it to be Al Lazard's day. You picked last week.

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<v Speaker 1>The main reason you picked last week is because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't just dictate and predict that he's gonna play sixty

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<v Speaker 1>snaps and have ten targets. This was Alan Lazard's game.

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<v Speaker 1>It was his chance to make an impact early. He did.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers got the fast start they needed, they got

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<v Speaker 1>a three and out on defense, and while it was

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<v Speaker 1>tight there for a time, the momentum in this entire

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<v Speaker 1>contest was in Green Bay's favor. Yeah, well, Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>ends up with four touchdown passes. You do that, you

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<v Speaker 1>up pass rating in those kind of conditions that that

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<v Speaker 1>that's a heck of a day. The fourth touchdown pass

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<v Speaker 1>goes to Marcedes Lewis, the big dog at tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets his first touchdown as a member of the Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers gets to add another player to his list

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<v Speaker 1>of guys on the receiving end of his touchdown passes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like Rogers might have to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with another nickname for him, at least at the line

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<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage, because he he called his shot apparently, UM.

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<v Speaker 1>The TV mikes picking up the big dog, big dog

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<v Speaker 1>call right before the one yard touchdown pass to Marcedes Lewis,

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<v Speaker 1>UM a fun one. Rogers enjoyed it, celebrating it. Heck

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<v Speaker 1>of a play by Rogers to actually get that throw

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<v Speaker 1>off and make it accurately with with that pass rusher

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<v Speaker 1>draped on his shoulder at the time, but it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>the one that caps the scoring for green Bay, puts

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<v Speaker 1>him up by three scores and put this one to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's great about that play and really this

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<v Speaker 1>entire season from Marcedes Lewis, and this speaks a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to Lewis and his character. Mercedes Lewis thirteen years ago

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<v Speaker 1>as a first round pick, and he was a pro

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<v Speaker 1>bowler in two thousand and ten. He's been to the

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<v Speaker 1>highs and for guys, it's not always easy. In years eleven, twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>and thirteen, you see a lot of guys just retired

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't want to accept a secondary role. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was close to retire, and he was close, but

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't because of a lack of production. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a question in his mind, like, hey, do I

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<v Speaker 1>still want to do this? And he did because of

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of team and the fact that he enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship he has with Jimmy Graham and Rodgers in

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<v Speaker 1>this offense, for Louis to be willing to accept the

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<v Speaker 1>role that he's been in the last two years, and

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<v Speaker 1>you heard Rogers talk about it al Lazard. I was

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<v Speaker 1>asking him about it after the game. It is incredible

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<v Speaker 1>to see the selflessness that's involved with that because he

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<v Speaker 1>knows he's mostly there for blocking. He knows he's mostly

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<v Speaker 1>there for type packages. And then there's the external threat

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<v Speaker 1>this year that he can still catch the ball. They've

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<v Speaker 1>used that more and I think that's helped make him

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit less predictable when he's on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>The best part about looking back at that play was

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<v Speaker 1>just how adamant Rogers was. And you can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the words and you're right, big dog, big dog, big dog,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a giveaway. But once that ball was was was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, snapped. Does that not remind you of like

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<v Speaker 1>the kid in school that's like, I gotta get the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to my buddy over the the hop and the

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<v Speaker 1>skip and everything else. In Rogers that was just I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's dipping his shoulder trying to stay elude the rush.

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<v Speaker 1>He was getting that ball to Mercedes Lewis. They're able

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<v Speaker 1>to connect on it. And as Rogers talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>and Lewis talked about it too, this goes beyond football

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<v Speaker 1>for those two. You don't see a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>impact that Mercedes Lewis has had on this locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it is within those doors. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is a beloved player. He's an emotional he's a verbal leader,

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<v Speaker 1>a vocal leader. And there's a reason why Lewis plays

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<v Speaker 1>as much as he does, the accountability that he has

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<v Speaker 1>and just being able to make the impact that he's

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<v Speaker 1>had in a very short time here in Green Bay. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>with the wind, the Packers get to nine and three,

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<v Speaker 1>they temporarily move into sole possession of first place in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC North the Minnesota Vikings at eight and three.

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<v Speaker 1>They're playing Monday night football in Seattle. So we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the whole picture and where things stand and all

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<v Speaker 1>the other results from week thirteen in the NFL on

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow's show, because then the Seahawks Vikings game will be

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<v Speaker 1>in the bank and we'll we'll really have a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of where everything is. So we'll delay that discussion for tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>but before we go today, we definitely do need to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Packers kicker Mason Crosby and the game that

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<v Speaker 1>he had. Finding out on Friday morning, I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was that his sister in law, Brittany, his brother Reese's wife,

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<v Speaker 1>passed away after a battle with ovarian cancer. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>you wrote a story on this, a great story on

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<v Speaker 1>our website a while back west as Um, the Crosby's

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<v Speaker 1>were going through this and Mason Crosby's wife, Molly also

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<v Speaker 1>had a medical situation UM this past summer as well. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this has been this has been some year

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<v Speaker 1>in the Crosby family and uh boy, for for Mason

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and do what he did on Sunday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>making making all of his kicks, including a big forty

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<v Speaker 1>seven yard or when actually the snow was at its

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<v Speaker 1>worst at that point, and he drills that forty seven

0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.240
<v Speaker 1>yard field goal when uh, to give the Packers three

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<v Speaker 1>points there in the first half. Just a just a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous effort by a veteran kicker, the franchises all time

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<v Speaker 1>leading score and one of the most respected and beloved

0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.399
<v Speaker 1>players in that locker room. Yeah. First off, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta hit your captain, Mason. So they find out

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<v Speaker 1>about this on Friday morning, him and Molly and his family.

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<v Speaker 1>They fly down to Austin, Texas, get to Georgetown where

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<v Speaker 1>you know recent and they're all from where Brittany was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's uh, that's Mason Crosby's hometown for those who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Georgetown, Texas. So he goes down there, he

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<v Speaker 1>spends the day with them, He flies in on Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>to New York, does his whole pregame preparation and then, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's incredible you look at it for him

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<v Speaker 1>to step up the way he has and he's done

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<v Speaker 1>it before. But you know, he said he's having a

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<v Speaker 1>career year in spite of everything that happened with Molly

0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.119
<v Speaker 1>during training camp. He's in a battle with Sam Ficken

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<v Speaker 1>for the kicking job. She undergoes surgery. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of August. When she has a surgery, Reese and Brittany

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<v Speaker 1>come up to spend the week with her, while Mason

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<v Speaker 1>is getting ready for the first, you know, game of

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<v Speaker 1>the year and finding out if he still has his

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<v Speaker 1>job with the Packers, and for him to do what

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<v Speaker 1>he's done. I think it speaks volumes about Mason. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it speaks volumees about their family. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were introduced to brittany story at all, and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if you read my story, if you

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<v Speaker 1>read Matt Sneidman's, Rob Amowsky's, Tom Silverstein, a number of

0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:07.480
<v Speaker 1>people have covered this topic, you are being welcomed into

0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the world of a truly amazing person. And I wrote

0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that story back in um late two thousand seventeen, and

0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.119
<v Speaker 1>I knew Reese a little bit, and I knew of

0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Brittney's story because Brittney she wasn't able to be there

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<v Speaker 1>when Mason made those big kicks at at and T Stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was nine days out from her first surgery

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<v Speaker 1>after being diagnosed at seven years old with ovarian cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>and it if it's tough, it's it's one of these

0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.959
<v Speaker 1>deals where she was so strong through this entire thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you followed her on Instagram, you followed her

0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:54.159
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook, her mentality throughout all of this and the

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<v Speaker 1>positivity that she put out there. I can only hope

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever encounter something like this, I can be

0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:01.679
<v Speaker 1>as strong she was. Because there are people that win

0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the lottery in this life, and there are people that

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<v Speaker 1>get stricken with something like she was stricken with and

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<v Speaker 1>it is not fair, but she came back. She was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Later that year, Mason makes the two biggest kicks of

0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.479
<v Speaker 1>his life. He's wearing that teal brist band for her.

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<v Speaker 1>She makes it. She climbs those stairs at a T

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<v Speaker 1>and T stadium to watch him play eight nine months later,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that was. And I asked Mason for permission to

0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 1>write that story on her on their battle, and I

0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.159
<v Speaker 1>talked to Reese about it, and the thing that if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch Britney's videos, if you watch her speak, she

0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:38.200
<v Speaker 1>is so eloquent. She is an amazing just aura about

0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.400
<v Speaker 1>her energy, about her. She wasn't always comfortable with that though.

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:45.280
<v Speaker 1>She wasn't always for sure that she wanted to do it,

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:49.760
<v Speaker 1>but she felt compelled to because if early detection is

0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.440
<v Speaker 1>so critical with cancer, especially something like she was dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no scans that we're going to tell her

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<v Speaker 1>that she had to listen to her body, and if

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<v Speaker 1>she would have caught it sooner from stage three see

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, she might have had a better shot

0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.439
<v Speaker 1>with this thing. But she wanted to get that message

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 1>out to people it doesn't matter male female, to to

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.880
<v Speaker 1>stay up on that stuff. And getting to know her

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<v Speaker 1>and getting to know Reese over the last two years,

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<v Speaker 1>it has been an incredible journey. I cannot say enough

0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.320
<v Speaker 1>about either of them and what they've been through, in

0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:26.400
<v Speaker 1>the impact that they've made on people. And for Mason

0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:30.440
<v Speaker 1>to be able to compartmentalize everything that he's dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>with Molly, with with Brittany, with everything they've dealt with

0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:35.920
<v Speaker 1>as a family, the jet leg that comes with that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and being able to keep your emotions out of it

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment, it says a tremendous amount about his character.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just got to say, I mean, I love

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you Reese, your family loves you. The impact that Brittany

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<v Speaker 1>had is going to go so much further than what

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 1>her thirty years on this earth is going to be

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:01.879
<v Speaker 1>able to encapsulate. So I uh that that story I

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted this last week, that story changed me. Had changed

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<v Speaker 1>the way I look at life. Uh, the way you

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<v Speaker 1>see your everyday life. Um in the positivity she attacked

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<v Speaker 1>that thing. They went on vacations. I remember the week

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<v Speaker 1>after my story ran. In between the time in which

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to them and when the story ran back

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<v Speaker 1>in seventeen, she was in remission. Then she's out of remission.

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<v Speaker 1>They still went to Disney World because they had to

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<v Speaker 1>plan a trip planned for Disney World in December of seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>The the adventures that her and Reese went on, it

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<v Speaker 1>was inspiring. And I apologize for rambling. I apologize for

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<v Speaker 1>going on and on about this, but it is a

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<v Speaker 1>it is an emotional roller coaster for someone that is

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<v Speaker 1>just an onlooker for Mason and everything their family deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>I my heart goes out to them, my thoughts and

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<v Speaker 1>prayers go out to them, and I just hope for

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<v Speaker 1>the very best because at the end of this, when

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<v Speaker 1>it's all said and done. We only have the time

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<v Speaker 1>we got Mike, you know, And I really hope if

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone's been touched by her story and read about it,

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<v Speaker 1>heard about it. I don't want just to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you appreciate it, because it doesn't last forever. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Well, with that, we will call it a

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time.