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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. Welcome to move the sticks. DJ and

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Speaker 2: Bucky going to be joined by our good buddy Brian

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Speaker 2: Baldinger as we look back at an incredible weekend of football.

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Speaker 2: Before we do that, though, I'm wearing my app State

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Speaker 2: hat today because it's just a sad day.

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Speaker 1: It's been a sad.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four hours for everybody in our family, and it

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Speaker 2: is really a family up there in Boone. So lost

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Speaker 2: a former teammate of mine and a good friend. And

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Speaker 2: Sean Clark was an amazing All American tackle at app

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Speaker 2: State and was the head coach there, spent a lot

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Speaker 2: of his years and time really investing in people up

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Speaker 2: there in Boone and then was at Central Florida this

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Speaker 2: over the weekend at fifty years old. Challe's a wonderful guy,

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Speaker 2: wonderful father, two kids. He always talked about every time

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Speaker 2: who's going to be in edibly missed by people all

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Speaker 2: over the college football landscape. And anybody who really came

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Speaker 2: in contact with him Buck. We had a chance to

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Speaker 2: have him on the show previously. It was fun to

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Speaker 2: of two friends and then getting a chance to meet

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Speaker 2: each other. But in Baldi he's offensive lineman, like he's

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Speaker 2: your people man.

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Speaker 1: You would absolutely loved him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a sad day, Djym's hardy to hear from

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Speaker 3: your low.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's really sad, DJ.

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Speaker 4: Because I was at the UCF Carolina game this weekend

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Speaker 4: in anticipation of not only seeing Natario's played the nice

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Speaker 1: Him out ahead of the game. Talk to him postgame, So.

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Speaker 4: Just said news, you talk about fifty years old, so

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Speaker 4: much life, still the head to live and then really

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Speaker 4: thought in prayers to him, his family, to the app

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great guy.

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Speaker 2: I had a chance to go up there and take

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Speaker 2: couldn't have been nicer and just a better dude. And

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Speaker 2: today looking at the calendar, I was up there in

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Speaker 2: and uh, he's going to be missed. He was a

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Speaker 2: great guy. So anyways, sending all my love to to

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Speaker 2: their family. All right, guys, let's let's jump in here

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Speaker 2: to the games we had yesterday. It's a crazy, crazy,

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Speaker 2: uh weekend. Man, I was at a crazy game. Uh,

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Speaker 2: I was where were you at yesterday? I let's start there,

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, honestly, like, uh, the Eagles couldn't have

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Speaker 3: it was tailored to two games. I mean, they couldn't

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Speaker 3: have been worse. In the first half. They literally couldn't

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Speaker 5: They had to throw it for the first time over year.

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Speaker 3: They had to throw it, and they threw it and

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Speaker 5: But you know, it was Devonte Smith catching the game winner.

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Speaker 3: But even that didn't win the game, you know, because

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Speaker 3: that's really the story for the Eagles defenses. Jordan Davis,

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Speaker 3: I just said, you know, he's not in good enough

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Speaker 3: He said, Jordan's going to He's going to come in

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Speaker 5: But the offense woke up, the defense did their job.

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Speaker 3: In the second half, they got to Stafford and they overcame.

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Speaker 3: Just a dreadful first half of football. Were literally only

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Speaker 5: Like, only Hilly.

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Speaker 1: Baldy. There are a couple of things.

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Speaker 4: One Jordan Davis speaks to what we always have talked about.

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Speaker 4: When Vic Fangio joined, I heard that they ramped up

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Speaker 4: To me, that tells you everything that you need to

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Speaker 4: I guess the thing around the league, these field goal blocks, Baldy.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen the game impacted on field goal blocks as.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if it's a schematic design, if

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Speaker 5: You know what's funny about that?

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Speaker 3: Real quick here, DJ Port jump in like literally almost

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Speaker 5: Banker finished it.

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Speaker 3: But I mean it was almost like if you were

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Speaker 1: You see the score happen. What the heck just happened?

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Speaker 2: Like, cause you're it doesn't even and it doesn't even

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Speaker 2: But I guess you're gonna have to change our mindset

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Speaker 2: because this is happening more and more as you look

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Speaker 2: He played the one tech three tech. He's got a

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Speaker 2: He plays aware, he's block aware, he's got range versus

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Speaker 2: So that was the whole thing, Baldy, that was the

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Speaker 2: And it looks like he's done that.

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Speaker 5: So two things.

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Speaker 3: One, Bucky, you can jump in on is because you

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Speaker 3: know Dexter Lawrence, your dad coached him. But Dexter Lawrence

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Speaker 5: He's a great kid. He's very articulate, he's very self conscious.

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Speaker 3: But the thing that's amazed now DJ is he's had

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable what that does to a young kid's confidence

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Speaker 3: he's not changing the game, he's not he's not living

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Speaker 3: up to the first round pick, he's not living up

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you start making these plays

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Speaker 5: It's he's a completely different kid right now.

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Speaker 4: and those things, given how they played, but the fact

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Speaker 4: I just think this sets up for the rematch in

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Speaker 4: the postseason with the Rams if they can get it

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Speaker 2: Well, the other thing I would say, as we kind

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Speaker 2: Let's get to your game here. Not at all what

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Speaker 2: see out there all the time, like you need to

436
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,280
Speaker 2: be getting. Those are six to seven completions of game.

437
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,800
Speaker 2: You should just bake in. Those are gimmes and if

438
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 2: they pop, they pop. If not, what they do is

439
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 2: they work as kind of a rhythm, a rhythm builder

440
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,960
Speaker 2: for a quarterback. When you drop back and you're looking

441
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 2: at it, everything is hard and covered and down the field. Man,

442
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,959
Speaker 2: that's hard way to play quarterback with all the two

443
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 2: high looks and the shell coverage you see in this league.

444
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 3: Not only that, but you know the offense line has

445
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 3: not played well and it's all new and you know,

446
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 3: whether it's Titus Howard or ariantae Urseri, I mean Lake

447
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 3: and Thomas has been this league a long time.

448
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 5: He doesn't miss games, but he's not a very good player.

449
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know to plug him in that left

450
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 3: guard like they they've had a problem at left guard

451
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 3: for a long time. And you could change coaches, offensive

452
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 3: line coach coordinators like they have a lot of those

453
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 3: issues are still there. And I don't care who you are,

454
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,919
Speaker 3: you get hit early in these games, Like you know,

455
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 3: I think that I saw Trey vonn who's having a.

456
00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,439
Speaker 5: Great season walker roster. He's becoming a dominant player.

457
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 3: He looks like a number one pick, you know, the

458
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,439
Speaker 3: way physically, like he's getting after guys like they're not

459
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 3: staying you know, nobody's staying in front of him right now.

460
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 3: And so the quarterback kids said early, man, like you're

461
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 3: gonna be a little skintch. I know, we got the

462
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 3: big touchdown to Nico, but I mean, honestly, like it's

463
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 3: it's been a real problem.

464
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,120
Speaker 2: But you gotta but to me that that thing that

465
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 2: comes back to my point though, you've got to have

466
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 2: stuff baked in to control then, like I watched it,

467
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 2: we just talked about the chart. I watched Justin Herbert

468
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 2: get the tar kicked out of him, and then eventually

469
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 2: they figured out, Hey, we're just gonna release Hampton like

470
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 2: we're keeping keeping him. Man, they still got us out number.

471
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 2: We're we're having trouble picking this stuff up. We're just

472
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna have a place to get the ball

473
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,439
Speaker 2: out quick.

474
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 1: You know.

475
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 3: You know who does did that a lot yesterday with

476
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 3: Sean McVay. Like they run a lot of fly sweeps.

477
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 3: They run a lot of stuff to meat uh to

478
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 3: nicula on the outside and they're just trying to pick

479
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 3: up a block and go trying to rather than just

480
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: trying to hammer it inside against the eagles.

481
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 5: I mean, they found different ways to run it.

482
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 3: But I'm with you, DJ, you got to get some

483
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 3: easy completions and just get the ball out of his

484
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: hands without having to really think about it and diagnose

485
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 3: something pre snap.

486
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: Real quick, buck before we move on, give me the

487
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter update. I rely on you every week. What

488
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 2: was the usage, how they use him and what do

489
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Speaker 2: you do?

490
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Speaker 1: I mean he played a lot.

491
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 4: I mean he played a lot of defense. He's on

492
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 4: the field, he's all over the place. They can do

493
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 4: a better job of getting in the ball in a

494
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 4: critical moment. They found it to him on like a

495
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 4: little curl. He makes a move dress out and you

496
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 4: can see the explosiveness. The problem that they're having is

497
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 4: there's a lack of confidence because they had so many

498
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 4: drops in the game that now the quarterback is pressing

499
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 4: trying to figure out who I can trust, and so

500
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 4: Breton Strange was the guy that he could rely on.

501
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter, I would say, would probably be second in

502
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 4: that group. I think going forward you'll probably see a

503
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 4: re shuffling of the deck when it comes to the

504
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 4: pecking order.

505
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: But I think Travis Hunters started getting more balls.

506
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put it in their thirty five snaps on offense,

507
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: forty one on defense, so darn near fifty.

508
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 5: A lot of tackles in that game, Bucky, Yeah.

509
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 1: The tackles.

510
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 4: The thing that I will say is the JAG's defense

511
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 4: is playing much better for as exceeded expectations. Josh Heinz

512
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: Allen Eric Armstead on the inside and Treyvon Walker. They're

513
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,479
Speaker 4: getting after it and what they're able to do now

514
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 4: they're playing zone, so it's a sea ball kipball defense.

515
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: They have nine takeaways I think in three games.

516
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 4: They're I mean they're getting tips and overthrows and the

517
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 4: zone is working because they have these dynamic athletes that

518
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 4: are just tracking the ball and you're seeing more plays.

519
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter hasn't scratched yet.

520
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 4: But it's only a matter of time because the way

521
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 4: they're playing the zone, he is going to snack some

522
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 4: balls out there.

523
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a buck Yus. I don't know

524
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: much about companyly. You know, the new defensive coordinator man,

525
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: but obviously the breakdowns they had last year were ridiculous.

526
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 3: I mean there's turn of guys lose, but I don't

527
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 3: see that right now. What is what is his strength?

528
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: Why did Liam like lean on this guy right here

529
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: to run this defense?

530
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: So it's funny body.

531
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 4: As much as I would love to say that it's

532
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 4: the exison hosts, I would say that what I've learned

533
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 4: from watching this team, it is all about the connectivity

534
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 4: between players and coaches and talking to guys after the

535
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 4: talking to some of their veteran leaders, they were like,

536
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 4: it's a difference in having coaches say things that you

537
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: actually believe in and wanting to play for them as

538
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 4: opposed to just going out and playing. And so I

539
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 4: would say Camp has challenged the guys, but he's challenged

540
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 4: the guys. And it's almost like when you have an

541
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 4: old teacher that tells you, ay, Baldy, I promise you

542
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 4: if you just follow the formula, it'll take and you

543
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 4: do that first big problem and it's right. And so

544
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 4: now the trust that you have and the teacher takes

545
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 4: you to the next level. That is what's happened. Kevinnillius

546
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,239
Speaker 4: told those guys, if you run to the ball, if

547
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 4: you keep the ball in front, I promise you, good

548
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 4: things are going to happen. And over the first three games,

549
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 4: those things have happened, and so now their confidence is

550
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 4: sky high.

551
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: Through the roof.

552
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: No doubt, it's been a different unit completely, and they've

553
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: always had guys on that side of the ball particularly.

554
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 2: So good to see the Jacks playing. Well, let's take

555
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: a quick break, we come back, we'll knock out.

556
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: Some other games.

557
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 2: All right, Baldy, I saw you had posted on this

558
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: and then actually after you posted it than I wanted

559
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 2: to go through and check it out for myself. So

560
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: and I'll set this up properly because we've mentioned Bucky

561
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: and I have mentioned this no shortage of ten times

562
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: on the show where we've said we were out there together,

563
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: shoulder to shoulder watching Jimmy Garoppolo and Davante Adams carve

564
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: up the Dallas secondary like a Thanksgiving turkey during during

565
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: traning camp, and we came out of that saying the

566
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: Rams are going to score sixty points a game or

567
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: this Dallas back in is horrendous, and I think we're

568
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 2: figuring out, Hey, the Rams are, They're pretty good, But Baldy,

569
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: the bigger takeaway is Dallas defensively.

570
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: What in the world is going if they make.

571
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 5: It any easier for Caleb Williams. I mean they left

572
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 5: meat on the bouncer. They have meat on the.

573
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: Bouncer, trying to jam like a one an jam live

574
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: on Roman Doomsday and Missus and falls and Domsay is

575
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 3: like literally it's like a Friday afternoon like egg toss.

576
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 5: That's one ye.

577
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: And then like you know, look, Kyer Elim, I know

578
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: where he got drafted I mean that guy's out there,

579
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: he's a liability man. Yeah, like Caleb, he threw four

580
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 3: touchdown passes. Honestly, three guys were completely wide open, you know.

581
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the kid from Missouri is a

582
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: really good player, but I mean it helps me nobody's

583
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 3: covering him. I mean it's a one breakdown after another.

584
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: And the other part to this, I mean, Jerry Jones

585
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: doesn't want to hear this. They've got no pass rush,

586
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 3: no pass rush. I mean in Chicago, who struggled like

587
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: crazy against Detroit. Like, honestly, Caleb barely got hit in

588
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: that game. In fact, he got hit one time by

589
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 3: Sam Williams after he completed the pass. I mean, he

590
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 3: couldn't get near him in this game, and that was

591
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: that was a big story. But like, you can't give

592
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 3: it up any easier than they gave it up.

593
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going through my notes, Buck, and it's one

594
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 2: thing when you write lay up, you know, open easy,

595
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: when you write all caps, comet, wide open, all caps

596
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: all the way across, exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point.

597
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 2: They were actually you know, and Caleb play well. They

598
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: made it easy on him, but I thought they left

599
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: a little meat on the bone, like, there were probably

600
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: three or four throws that he would love.

601
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 5: He definitely.

602
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: They had some opportunities that he missed. When he when

603
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: he's driving the ball in the scene, for some reason,

604
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: it takes off on him. There's times where I think

605
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: he's overthrowing it and the ball just kind of jumps

606
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: on him and he's missed. But the thing that I

607
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: liked about in talking about Caleb every week, the things

608
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: that I continue to see improvement in. He had four

609
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: runs in this game. Okay, technically four runs. Two were

610
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: nil down. So he had two runs in this game,

611
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: and they were both zone reads designed quarterbacks run yeah.

612
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: And then you had some other drop backs.

613
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: He had two scrambles, and on the scrambles, one is

614
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: where they're moving the pocket, so he already got him

615
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: kind of in movement mode and then he sees it

616
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: and takes it.

617
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: The other one was a.

618
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: Trick play, another one of the trick plays that they tried,

619
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: and it wasn't there. So he takes off and runs.

620
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: But there's not this panic. There's not this I got

621
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: to get out of here. I got to get out

622
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: of here. And he's finding check down. So he's starting

623
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: to realize. Look, I don't think DeAndre Swift's a great

624
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: runner of the football, but he's actually really valuable in

625
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: the screen game and catching the ball out of the

626
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: back field. And you know, look, he's been with him twice.

627
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson's had him twice. I think he knows who

628
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: and what he is. But they're figuring out a way

629
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: to get him the ball and those opportunities, which shows

630
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: growth to me from Caleb. But that was you know, hey, look,

631
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: if you can just start with the simple things, let's

632
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: hit guys when they're you know, make it wide open.

633
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: He's doing that. Let's let's not just try and you know,

634
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: make some incredible scramble play on every single drop back.

635
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: He's doing a better job of that. And he's finding

636
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: his he's finding his outlet, he's finding his checkdown buck.

637
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: Those are three tangible ways we can say Caleb Williams

638
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: has shown growth in getting better.

639
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it was a perfect storm playing

640
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: the Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears are simplest. I mean, playing

641
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: the boys. Matu is simplistic by design. Made Tampa two.

642
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: They're not gonna do a lot of disguise. It's gonna

643
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 4: be very easy for them in terms of seeing what

644
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 4: they're doing. The PICI is not gonna change a lot

645
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 4: post snap, and then it's a matter of are you

646
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 4: disciplined enough to take what's available now.

647
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: The thing is, you should not see.

648
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: The bust that you're seeing from the cow Boys, given

649
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: the simplicity of the scheme.

650
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 5: None.

651
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: I don't think there was a two. I was looking

652
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: for the two. I didn't see that too. You should

653
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: not care.

654
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 4: You should not see these breakdowns, And to me, it

655
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 4: speaks to a lack of discipline and a lack of

656
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 4: attention to detail from their players because look, I know, look,

657
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: I've seen this defense with Maddy Eberflus work successfully in

658
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 4: Indianapolis and all those things. But for whatever reason, there's

659
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: there's a disconnect up front. And it also doesn't help

660
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 4: when you have no one, I mean no one who

661
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: can rush the passer.

662
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: I don't care what defense you play.

663
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: If you can't affect a quarterback, you got no chance

664
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: in this league.

665
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well it speaks to just one big, like

666
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: a league wide issue. I see, Like I know everybody

667
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: says quarterback driven league, it's a cornerback driven league.

668
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 5: And I see some of the worst corner play right now.

669
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: There's not enough of them, Nick, you begin with, and

670
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: then they're asking guys that aren't very good to do

671
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: things that they're not very good at. And so I

672
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 3: just see the shortage of good corners in this business

673
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: right now. And if you can get three or four

674
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: of them that can stay on the field and stay healthy,

675
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: then you're way ahead of the curve of how you

676
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: want to play defense.

677
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: No doubt, Baldy Cleveland, Green Bay. That may be the

678
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: most shocking result of the weekend.

679
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 5: It was, except this.

680
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: Is third three weeks in a row now where the

681
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: defense has carried this team, and they got after Jordan

682
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: Love in the past game, they completely shut down your run.

683
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 5: Josh Jacobs got a couple.

684
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: But these two rookies, Mason Graham and Carson's Wessinger, like

685
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: they're incredible, Like they know how to play the game.

686
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 5: Questioner is sideline and sideline.

687
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: He got a sacked the other day coming out of

688
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: you know, out there somewhere in the curl flat, you know,

689
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: like he was twenty yards away from Jordan Love and

690
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: got him down. But he comes one hundred miles out

691
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: ro Mason Graham. The thing that impressed me, dj is.

692
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: I didn't think he was going to be a good

693
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: pass rusher. I thought he had played with leverage. I

694
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: thought he was technically sound. You see all that in

695
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: the run game. But he knows how to get on

696
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: the edge. He knows and and because of the way

697
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: Schwartze gets after it, either by adding a fifth rusher

698
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: or their twist stunts that they run, like that's sometimes

699
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: all you need to move that quarterback. And then here

700
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: comes Alex right, We're here comes uh, you know, Elie

701
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: Collins on a pick and like they really affected the

702
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: passing game of green Bay. And I don't think anybody

703
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: thought they could do that to green Bay.

704
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 5: And that was that.

705
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: They did it for three quarters to Baltimore the week

706
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: before they completely shut down Derrick Henry.

707
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 5: They did it to Joe Burrow week one. They should

708
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 5: have won that game. You don't need stats at all

709
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 5: to watch Cleveland say that's the best defensive football.

710
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of things. Buck.

711
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: By the way, we're gonna I'm gonna put forth a

712
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: nominee show of hands. Can we nominate Jim Schwartz for

713
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: our coordinator of the week. We're gonna go h we

714
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: get a three for three from that shorts he wins

715
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: that award.

716
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 5: He loves to hear that too deep.

717
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, uh Graham. Going back through, I've watched

718
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: I've won him every week. It's kind of been a

719
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: pet project because he was getting so much grief. He

720
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: pukes at a practice and then in the preseason he

721
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: gets flat backed by by I don't know it was

722
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: Trey Smith or whoever in one play, and it's like, oh,

723
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: so now we have a verdict on the guy that

724
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: every thought, we all agreed was a really good player

725
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: at Michigan. So I've watched him each and every week

726
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: and then watch him going through this week. He have

727
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: four pressures. He's got an innate feel on games, like

728
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: when you run games that's not everybody, Oh, it's just simple.

729
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: There's a feel of technique to that. He's very good

730
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: at it. That he's that wrestler. So he plays with

731
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: the leverage he's gotten that little push pull, little snatch move.

732
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: He's got such upper strength and corp strength, and he's

733
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: able to get guys off their skis a little bit

734
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, you look and he

735
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: beats you with just a pure get off and he's

736
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: just ripping through and getting pressure that way against the run.

737
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: Everybody knows he's because of the wrestling thing. Front side

738
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: leverage all no problem. He's winning backside with quickness and

739
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: making plays on the backside. Beat and cut off them off.

740
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: Can't cut him off. So he's been awesome. And I

741
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: was thinking about this trade, uh buck, from this standpoint,

742
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: do you remember the the Stafford golf trade? And the

743
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: whole thing was, Okay, they're tradings. The Detroit's trading Stafford

744
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: for a bunch of for draft picks because they want.

745
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: To get younger. And then there's golf, like it was

746
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: the it was Bill that.

747
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, golf was kind of the other piece, whereas and

748
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: then Cleveland was, hey, we don't have our quarterbacks, so

749
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: we're going to trade this pick with Travis Hunter available

750
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: for draft picks. You know, that's kind of the and

751
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: then and then oh yeah, they ended up getting Mason Graham.

752
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: Like I feel like Mason Graham and Jared Goff weren't

753
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: the key components of those trades. And in some ways

754
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: it's like, well, hold up, let's pay attention here. Jared

755
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: Goff obviously is huge with the with the Lions and

756
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: their success. Mason Graham, that's the cherry on top because

757
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: they're going to have two first round picks next year.

758
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because I hate you guys raving

759
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: about their defense. And I think in the middle of

760
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: this game, uh Ketas and Fanski had an epiphany and

761
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: we'll continue to have an epiphany in terms of how

762
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: this team needs to play. Quin Shawne Jenkins gets eighteen carries,

763
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: ninety four rushing yards.

764
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: He's averaging over five yards and carry.

765
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 4: And when you have a great defense, as we're talking

766
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: about the best defense in football, the Cleveland Browns have

767
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: to embrace an ugly brand of ball that can make

768
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: it make them really the team no one wants to face,

769
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 4: because as the weather turns and as it gets cold,

770
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: and as you're having to go to the dog pound,

771
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: they can run the football effectively with the rookie, They

772
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 4: can play great defense. They can make every game like

773
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: a game of half court basketball, and all it takes

774
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 4: is a turnover or two and you look up and

775
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: you walk out of there with an l if. They

776
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 4: embrace who they are with a great defense and compliment

777
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: it with a very conservative, run oriented offense.

778
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: This team.

779
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they're gonna be a playoff team, but

780
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: they could be a tough out that you don't want

781
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 4: to have to deal with each and every week.

782
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: The other part to the draft process DJ is so

783
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: they take Quinn Shawn Jenkins, you know, in the in

784
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: the second round, and then they get Dylan Samson. Ye,

785
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: and you watch these two guys like, you don't need

786
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: anybody else. You got two fresh legs, they can practice.

787
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 3: Samson catches the ball great, Quinn Shawn is your number one.

788
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: Like they've got a real combination right now going forward.

789
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 3: And look, I mean Nick Chubb was a great player,

790
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: but honestly, it almost goes back to that, you know,

791
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: not de emphasizing running backs is you want great running backs.

792
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: But what's wrong with drafting too, you know what's right,

793
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: what's wrong with drafting? You know the sweet spot in

794
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: the second round where a lot of these guys fall,

795
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: and then go get yourself that fourth round pick like

796
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 3: Samson and you know out of Tennessee and a little

797
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: bit of a guy can do everything.

798
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 5: I mean, it's pretty good approach.

799
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: So you mentioned the two running backs Harold fannin Bucks, that's.

800
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: That's very often rookies. Isaiah.

801
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: We talked about Swetzs and Gerry and Graham, like, that's

802
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: a heck of a draft class man.

803
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that la Aiden Huntington is a good player. Yeah,

804
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 5: he's the lead back on the touchdown.

805
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: He's a he's a you know, he's a rotating kid

806
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: on defensive tackles. You know, he's a free agent at

807
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: a two lane, but he's he's in the mix special

808
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: teams all three phase.

809
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 5: Of the game.

810
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: It's a it's a nice little you know, uh, being

811
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: able to use his abilities.

812
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: No question.

813
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: I want to get to some more young guys as

814
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: we get to this next game here Jets and Bucks

815
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, it's funny.

816
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: I watched this game just looking at it.

817
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: I want to watch a couple of things, and I saw,

818
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 2: like Levonte David had eleven tackles. Levonte David's thirty five

819
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: years old, you know, so I wanted to watch that.

820
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: And this is why he keep the box. Scores can

821
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: be different than the game. So you go watch it

822
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: and I'm actually go through the tape and I'm like,

823
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, he actually missed a sack, missed a couple

824
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: of tackles, potentially I think tackles for loss, like he

825
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: could have had a monster game, and I think twenty

826
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: five year old Levante David that's like, that's like an

827
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 2: old school eighteen tackle two sack like elite, elite performance.

828
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: But he's still he's still good. He just not you know,

829
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: kind of what he was. And then you look on

830
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: the other side to see Mike Evan. Mike Evans makes

831
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: a couple of plays. Mike Evin I think had three

832
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: drops when I was going through there looking at that

833
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: where he had opportunities. So again, Mike Evans not quite

834
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: what he was. So if you're a general manager and

835
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 2: you've got some good aging players who are unbelievable leaders

836
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: and winners and future Hall of famers, then man, we

837
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: got to supplement them with some good young players. And Baldi,

838
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: I look, get a Mecca Buka. It is every week

839
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: he's doing some freaky stuff. Man, it's unreal.

840
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 5: The one handed catch was unreal. I mean, pump that

841
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 5: right to his resume. Real. Baker implicitly trusts him.

842
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: I mean the you know, Evans gets hurt, you know

843
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: they I mean like they have backup to backups on

844
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: the offensive line. They didn't have one guy in their

845
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: natural spot. They lose mockt they you know, they lose

846
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: the right guard. I mean it was all backups in there,

847
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 3: and you know you're going up against you know, Will

848
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 3: McDonald and Quinn Williams. They made plays, but you know,

849
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: Baker just he's just so crafty man with the ball,

850
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: like his ability just to be able. It's like squeezing jello,

851
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: like he's gonna find somewhere to come out of and

852
00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 3: extend the play.

853
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 5: But ultimately he's gonna find a buka for a big play.

854
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: And I don't know, Like I know, Sauce Garter was

855
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: a high pick and he's gotten paid big, but man,

856
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: those penalties that he's committed.

857
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 5: Two weeks in a row.

858
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: I started for what started and you give them a

859
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 3: first down, like you can't if you have a free

860
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: agent out there and he's just you know, you just

861
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: called a kid up from a practice squad.

862
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 5: You might expect that miscape. You can't, like sales can't

863
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 5: make that mistake.

864
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you. And in theory are

865
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: about it. I thought that specific one was. Yeah, there

866
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: was a whole lot there. Man, they kind of each

867
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: got their hand out touching each other. I don't think

868
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: it impacted to throw it all. And I was actually

869
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: I had a Jets fan friend as a baseball guy.

870
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: It sent me a text and he was like.

871
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: Can they fix this rule where it just we're just

872
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: going to bail out these offenses on third and forever

873
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: you get a tick tack TICKI tech penalty and that's

874
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 2: that's a that's not a ten to fifteen yard penalty.

875
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: That's a massive penalty, and you kind of bail out

876
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: the offense almost like Buck. I don't know if you

877
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: ever you know, being in both those position rooms and

878
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: as a receiver and a DA it's almost liked, man,

879
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: come on, let's have you ever complained to refle like, hey,

880
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: let's have a little awareness of like this is your

881
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: barrel on these guys out on.

882
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: Is one of my biggest gripes with the rule.

883
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 4: I think they make it too easy to throw balls

884
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: up in these desperate situations and reward the offense with

885
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 4: a first down look. Sauce Gardener has to be aware.

886
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 4: Sauce Garden's played in the all pro level. He has

887
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: to play better, giving the money, a conversation and the expectation,

888
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: but he can't put his team in that situation. As

889
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 4: I go back and I look at the bucks Man,

890
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield, third week in a row, game winning drive,

891
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 4: finishes in the final minute, making a strong case for

892
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: the MVP. And I think we've said this when we

893
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: look at him, we look at Daniel Jones, we look

894
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 4: at some of these other quarterbacks.

895
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: Man, you can't give up on a quarterback too soon.

896
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: The right environment, scheme, player supporting cast, all those things

897
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: can really help a player find his role. And I

898
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 4: think Baker Mayfield and Tampa and best version of Baker

899
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: that we've ever seen, and it's only going to get

900
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 4: better as they continue to believe in him and empower

901
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 4: him not only on the field but with the people

902
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 4: that they put around him to really compliment his game

903
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: and allow him to be at his best every week.

904
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: Baldy, can I ask you a question on this real quick?

905
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: On that point, the Buck just made so talking with

906
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: personnel guys around the league, and we're early in the

907
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: college season, but there hasn't been you know, Mendoz has

908
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: played well at Indiana, but there hasn't been anybody just

909
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: wowing anybody from the quarterback standpoint. So they were one

910
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: of them asked me you know, hey, who do you

911
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: think will emerge? Who you think will be that guy?

912
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: And I said, I don't know, man. You look around

913
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: the league and now you see Daniel Jones light in

914
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: the world on fire. And we've seen Sam, we've seen Baker,

915
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: we've seen go We've seen all these guys.

916
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: So I kind of put it. I wrote it down

917
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: like this.

918
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: If we're looking at the maybe a recycled quarterback new

919
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: opportunity versus a draftable quarterback. If we just did these

920
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: three categories age, well, these guys you're getting recycled. There

921
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 2: are still young guys. They've been they've been pushed through

922
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: the system, and they're still twenty five, twenty six years old,

923
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 2: in some cases younger. So the age is not really different.

924
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: The talent level, well, they were both viewed talented enough

925
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: to be first round picks, so that's somewhat similar. So

926
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 2: then we get to the third column, the risk, Well,

927
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: no risk, there's no risk, I mean Baker or why

928
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 2: wouldn't you lean in that direction?

929
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, just to throw the next name out

930
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: there is Carson Wentz. Yeah, I mean Kevin O'Connell traded

931
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 3: Sam how Away for a reason. He's like Carson Wentz

932
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: is sitting on a couch. I know Sean McVay liked him.

933
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: I know Kyle like all these guys places that he's been,

934
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 3: Andy Reid liked them. He went out opening drive, right

935
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: down the field, three plays, touchdown. He didn't play great great,

936
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 3: but he played pretty good. I mean the talent level,

937
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: the size, you know, the ability just to move, the

938
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: arm strength, all of that is still there. And they're

939
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: going to get Jordan Adison back this week. You know,

940
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: It's it was like they can win games with Carson

941
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: right now. Mac Jones played played very well two weeks

942
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: in a row, you know, I mean here we are, yes,

943
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: I mean, do you want you want to take all

944
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: of these retrans for nothing? Basically, they didn't pay Carson

945
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: any money and here he is winning games for it.

946
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 4: So, Baldy, you weren't on the show, but I think

947
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 4: last Thursday or Friday we talked about this. We talked

948
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: about if I am a quarterback that has to go

949
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: in the relate reclamation reclamation, Yeah, yeah, if I got

950
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: to go in that cycle, I want to get into

951
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: a scheme that is prevalent across the league. Yeah, I

952
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: want to be coach with coaches that can pick up

953
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 4: the phone and vouch for me. When you think about

954
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: the mac Jones, you think about what Carson Wentz has

955
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 4: been through, you think about Baker, all those guys went

956
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 4: to systems and quarterbacks, Well now it's prevalent it went.

957
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 5: To graduate school. They all went to graduate school.

958
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, they walk away with their nbas and had they

959
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 4: have an opportunity to really rebuild their career and make

960
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: it better. That is the move that I think everyone

961
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 4: should be looking for. I am shaking the trees trying

962
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: to find the next young cast off quarterback that I

963
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 4: can rebuild and repair and make into a solid starter.

964
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 2: It's not only getting coached by those guys, Baldy, it's

965
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 2: like you're learning a language. Like Okay, he already speaks

966
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: my language. He's been with the guy that runs the

967
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 2: same exact stuff and terminology is very somach what we're doing.

968
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: But you know, if you if you look at Okay,

969
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: the school that you're going to, let's say the Sewn

970
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: McVeigh school, Baker Mayfield, it's you know, traded on a Tuesday.

971
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: On Thursday, he's starting and winning a game. You know,

972
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell's taking guys from Arizona, putting them in the line.

973
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: He's telling them what to do each play, and they're

974
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: winning a football game. There's something about these guys that

975
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: they know how to program these quarterbacks. You talking about

976
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 3: a language, DJ, it's like you know, you know, it's

977
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: it's it's like one of those language things where you

978
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 3: can learn it in thirty days.

979
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: You know, Stone languages.

980
00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rosetta stone, the McVay stone, Shanahan stone. Change

981
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: the name of this whole thing. All right, let's get

982
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: to one more game before we got to catch a

983
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: loose baldy and that was the Sunday night game.

984
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: Have a weird game, Kansas City and the Giants. What

985
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 1: you got.

986
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 5: Well?

987
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Russell Wilson was horrible Week one against Washington

988
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: and he was awful last week. They have plays to

989
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: be made. I mean the last the last four plays

990
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: were you you're hitting the crossbar with the ball and

991
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: fourth down like that. They can't make melite neighbors isible.

992
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: How is melik neighbors invisible?

993
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: It's just hold on, hold on, hold on, boy, hold on.

994
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: I'll tell you exactly how. And I went through and

995
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: looked at his targets. I was like, I don't know

996
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: how this is not a factor. So every overthrown deep

997
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: balls just hero like you got double covered down the field,

998
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: which is going to throw the ball fifty feet in

999
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: the air and hope for the best there. They hit

1000
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: him on a hitch what they were, which they were

1001
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: laid on, and then they hit them on a slant

1002
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: which was an easy pickings. But like outside of that,

1003
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: it was just hand garnads. Just throw it up and

1004
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: as high as you can. In the double game plan,

1005
00:43:59,520 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: there is.

1006
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: An it's not an offense. And you could call the

1007
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: designers bad. The quarterback can't see, you know, last week

1008
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: Dallas gave him vision.

1009
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 5: They have no pass rush. He just took his got shots,

1010
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 5: his go shots.

1011
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: Okay through for four p fifty he was as bad

1012
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: as he was yesterday as he was Week one against Washington.

1013
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what we've established, Buck is the Cowboys

1014
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: are terrible on the defensive side of the ball.

1015
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: That's what we've established. Yeah, just really bad.

1016
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: And you know the thing about the Giants and not

1017
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: the belaver but yeah, Malik Neighbors needs to get in.

1018
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: And then when you do put Jackson Dart in, it's

1019
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 4: kind of like the predictable offense and play. He's gonna

1020
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 4: come in for one play, run this, then get out.

1021
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 4: At some point, man, you need to throw him in

1022
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: the pool, Like just throw him in the pool. Let's

1023
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 4: say you sweat them with Remart. Yeah, running this offense,

1024
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: Let's try and figure out how to do it. Because

1025
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 4: I do believe this. They got something in the running

1026
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: back in camp scatter of it. There's something that you

1027
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 4: can build around. They have enough where they can be

1028
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: a functional offense that can pick up first downs and

1029
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 4: score points.

1030
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: The trigger man is what was holding him back. They

1031
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: got to put Jackson Dort in there. Well.

1032
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: The thing on scataboo real quick baldy that he does

1033
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: the thing that all Scott used to do. When you

1034
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: go back and watch him where it comes. Normally, when

1035
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: you see guys run people over, they accelerate into contact,

1036
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: their feet are alive and they kind of just run

1037
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: through them. His feet stop. He just kind of pops

1038
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: and like it's a little just short, little six inch

1039
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: he just kind of punches them and then he kind

1040
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: of skirts away. It's very unique. He looks like a

1041
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: little shrunk down a little mike. Allstart out there.

1042
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: Well, that's a good call, and it's true because you

1043
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: can't get to his legs now from Texas legs.

1044
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 5: You can't get his legs.

1045
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: You're not getting him down on the ground real real

1046
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 3: quick before I run here, watching Isaiah Rodgers and Minnesota

1047
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: play this weekend from the pick six to start the

1048
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: fumble recovery, like that guy was. You know, that guy

1049
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: was probably the second best corner in Philly right now,

1050
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: and Minnesota picked him up. And Brian Flores just knows

1051
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: how to use these chest pieces. But what are performance

1052
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: by Isaiah Rodgers yesterday? Vikings and Steelers. They led the

1053
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 3: league and take away a year ago with thirty three.

1054
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: They both had five yesterday and they both need well.

1055
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: The Vikings blew them out, but the Steelers needed all

1056
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 3: five because their offense still is a real challenge.

1057
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I won't hit on the rest of those games tomorrow.

1058
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: Baldi's been great this time, by the way, the chief

1059
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: side of that thing when they needed it in the

1060
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: second half. Offensively they came alive a little bit. Defensively

1061
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: they were excellent.

1062
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: I don't you know.

1063
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: I think that was a good, hopeful sign for them.

1064
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to read too much into it.

1065
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: Let's see next week Baltimore Ravens, Kansas City Chiefs. We're

1066
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: talking about that next week, looking forward to that one. Guys, Hey, Baldy,

1067
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: you're the best brother. We appreciate you.

1068
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 5: Man.

1069
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: Have a great week. I see you next Monday. You

1070
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: better all see it all right, Buck.

1071
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: That was a fun one getting a chance to catch

1072
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: up with Baldy and rip through those games again. We

1073
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: will hit the games we did not touch tomorrow and

1074
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: roll through those ones. But what a while weekend football

1075
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: man DJ.

1076
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 4: The league continues to let you know that is a

1077
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 4: one score league, no matter how bad you think the

1078
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 4: team is, no matter how good you think the team is,

1079
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: is always within a and it's about playing the right

1080
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 4: way or whatever. It's just it's just amazing to see

1081
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: the parody that exists within the league and how you

1082
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 4: have to play the right raate each and every week

1083
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: to chuckle these dupes.

1084
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: No doubt, fun weekend, fun show today. We'll be back tomorrow.

1085
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: We'll hit the rest of those games. We'll have our

1086
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: rookie recap and rookie draft for the next week. Quin

1087
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: John Jenkins is gonna find his way into getting picked.

1088
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: I can tell you that much after what he looked like.

1089
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: It's good week for the leave, good week for a lot.

1090
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: Of the rookies.

1091
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll revisit that tomorrow. So we appreciate you guys

1092
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: hanging with us. We'll see you tomorrow. Right here on,

1093
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: move the sticks.