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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to a bonus episode of I Saw

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Speaker 1: What You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho Daniel Henderson.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, bonus time. What's up?

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Speaker 2: Summertime bonus? Summertime bonus? How's it going? Are you doing

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Speaker 2: anything fun? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean here and there. I'm trying, you know, like

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to like go out more. I think I've

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Speaker 1: established that in you know, previous episodes. So the other

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Speaker 1: night I went out with my friends Ben and Austin

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Speaker 1: to this. I won't name it just because I don't

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Speaker 1: know whatever. I don't feel like, when do you talk

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Speaker 1: about businesses that aren't like dunkin Donuts? I'm like, should

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Speaker 1: I even mention?

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Speaker 2: But no, don't mention it for your safety because then

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Speaker 2: people will go there to find you.

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Speaker 1: Really, yes, girl, do you not know this?

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Speaker 2: Four years in?

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Speaker 1: It just seems so okay.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe that's just the way I think, But

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I have never mentioned it. I don't mention

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Speaker 2: vacations until I'm home. I don't mention shit until I'm done.

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Speaker 2: Do not come and find me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I I've lived in this town for

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Speaker 1: a long time. I think people know that I have

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Speaker 1: and yes. So there have been times where like I've

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Speaker 1: been like, like I said at the time that I

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Speaker 1: was like buying Girl Scout cookies on the side of

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Speaker 1: the road and like the nastiest, baggiest sweatpants and had

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Speaker 1: no makeup on, and somebody was like, yo, I just

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Speaker 1: saw you on the side of the road buying like

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Speaker 1: twelve boxes of Girl Scout cookies. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh shit, okay, like no.

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Speaker 2: Just one thing that's like it in the wild spotting

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Speaker 2: and that's special and fun for everybody. Yeah. Well, but

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Speaker 2: to be like, yo, I go to this bar every Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: that bar is gonna be packed with people the next

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Speaker 2: Tuesday being like where's she at?

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Speaker 1: You know, weird But okay, well, but here's the thing

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Speaker 1: about this place we went to. So it was like

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talking about. It's

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Speaker 1: like one of these bars that is like super super themey.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's got a theme. And I would say

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Speaker 1: the theme is like Saturday Night Fever meets like Blade Runner.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe it. It was very like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was very chic, but it was also

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Speaker 1: like futuristic, but like also seventies I don't know how

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Speaker 1: to do. It's like a seventies future. Whatever people thought

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Speaker 1: in the future was in the seventies. I think that's

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Speaker 1: kind of like what the vibe was solid, and I,

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Speaker 1: you know, we were like because it was kind of

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Speaker 1: like Ladie Da, we were like, oh, let's put on

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Speaker 1: like nice shirts. I put on a dress. I was like,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of fun, Like I don't do that often.

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Speaker 1: And I was just like, okay, cool, I'll put on

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Speaker 1: my white cowboy boots tonight. Wow. I don't wear these

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Speaker 1: ever anymore. So we went out and I my intention

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Speaker 1: was to have one drink, and then I had like

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Speaker 1: several plus shots, which is so insane. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: doing shots is insane for me right now. Got fucking trashed, girl,

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Speaker 1: Like I was trashed, And like the weirdest part was

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Speaker 1: that the bar is in this like neighborhood here that

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Speaker 1: it was like it was like a bar that kind

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Speaker 1: of is tucked into like an office park or something.

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Speaker 1: And then they they're basically taking this area and they're

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Speaker 1: trying to make it more like nightlifey because normally it's

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Speaker 1: I so when we were leaving, I was like like

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Speaker 1: I was like, yo, like like just being so stupid.

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Speaker 1: But so like the weirdest part was like towards the

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Speaker 1: end of the night. Well, first of all, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a because it's in the finance bro area. Like all

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Speaker 1: these finance bros predictably came right so it was like

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Speaker 1: a cool looking bar. It was playing, it was playing

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Speaker 1: good music. But then it was like fucking twelve dudes

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Speaker 1: finance look. They were. They just look like fucking boring

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Speaker 1: was also like cool like older people there, which I

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Speaker 1: like here are people in their forties and fifties and stuff,

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Speaker 1: one guy I think I posted this on my Instagram

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Speaker 1: stories who looked just like he was in the Black

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Speaker 1: Eyed Peace. I like, I posted a picture of him

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Speaker 1: and put like, let me get that boom boom boom,

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Speaker 1: believe I did that when I was wasted. But like

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Speaker 1: there was this couple, this like older couple, and the

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Speaker 1: over and was like, hey, what's up, Like you look amazing,

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Speaker 1: like what's your name and this and that? And I

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Speaker 1: was like, uh, you know whatever. So we started chatting

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Speaker 1: and there was this faint vibe of like I don't

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Speaker 1: he looked like Aaron Neville. I have to say, he

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Speaker 1: looked like, I don't know much, but I know I

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Speaker 1: love you, Like Aaron, They're.

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Speaker 2: Trying to recruit you. They were they were they were looking,

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Speaker 2: they were looking for a third.

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Speaker 1: What and and the thing was was that they were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: and and this is she said that she was in

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Speaker 1: her sixties, and then she at some point said something

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what that means. They've been doing

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Speaker 1: Was like, Yo, this place is Rule seventies. What the fuck?

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Speaker 1: They're like swears here up. But you know, it's so

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Speaker 1: hard for me because I feel like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if if you feel this. I just have an aloofness

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Speaker 2: I just assume no one ever is. Yes, I can't tell.

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Speaker 1: I think I do too. But then there have been

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Speaker 1: Why like, why at the moment can I not engage

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Speaker 2: Here's here's a cliff notes version of when someone is

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Speaker 2: hitting on you. The first entry. Okay, a woman comes

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Speaker 2: up looking like Aaron Neville. That is just bullet point one.

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Speaker 2: You're being hit upon. But I also think it's a

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Speaker 2: protective measure to not know, because then you don't have

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Speaker 2: I respond? Like it's kind of nice to not know.

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Speaker 1: At some point, they did mention where they lived and

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Speaker 1: it was so far away batch I was like, see

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Speaker 2: You were not picking up what they were putting down, but.

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Speaker 1: It would have never happened. Ps, Like I would never

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Speaker 1: do that, Like no, of course that we were.

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Speaker 2: Up with the night. You have to be safe.

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Speaker 1: But just also like I'm just trying to date like

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Speaker 1: Like this is not I'm not doing that Uh, that's

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Speaker 2: A time, right, But I appreciate the baby stepping in,

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Speaker 2: yeah I do. And I've never dated a couple, but

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Speaker 2: I have dated someone who was in an open relationship

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Speaker 1: Like I I realized something about dating for many years

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Speaker 1: like you're not like you're sort of like overthinking the

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Speaker 1: these like rules for things, like it's like the red

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Speaker 1: They don't like stereo lab that's a red flag or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You just come up with these like arbitrary rules, and

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Speaker 1: it is I think that's also a protective measure. At

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Speaker 1: I think in my in my age, in my place

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Speaker 2: Well, you reach a certain point of life, you know,

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Speaker 2: fast forward twenty years later, and the real red flag

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Speaker 2: he doesn't know any pillowcases. That's a real red flag.

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Speaker 1: I think. Really, there are two red flags that I

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Speaker 1: and two that they like abuse animals, Like really those

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Speaker 1: an absolute no. Pretty much beyond that.

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Speaker 2: You're like, I don't care if you are chunk and

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Speaker 2: The flags are not even read anymore. They're a light pink.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that is what it actually is. And I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be open and like accepting, and

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Speaker 1: it's really like, no, you just have an extremely low bar.

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Speaker 1: You're so desperate that you will date a guy that

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Speaker 1: has T shirts for pillarcases. Here I am thinking of

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Speaker 2: The garbage that bar to the goddamn But those are

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Speaker 2: also good criteria. I think those are more criteria than

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Speaker 2: red flags.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yes, like, yeah, red flags is probably

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Speaker 1: something a little different, but yeah, the criteria is real low.

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Speaker 1: Like the other day I said this to I said

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Speaker 1: this to my friend Ben. I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: how there is that like often retweeted, re instagrammed thing

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Speaker 1: about John Waters when he says if you go home

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Speaker 1: with somebody and they don't have books, don't fuck them.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, is that right? Like I'm like,

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Speaker 1: if you're just going home with somebody and they don't

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Speaker 1: And I'm also like, let's let me call out John

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Speaker 2: But also as someone with a library in my house, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well absolutely, And I'm just sitting here going like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: No Christmas present. Somebody could have given him some books

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Speaker 1: Yes, that has become a shorthand for like people who

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Speaker 1: But actually, sometimes sweet, nice people with good intentions who

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Speaker 2: But they're gonna excommunicate me because I'm telling you should

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like tiny bit of a bridge too far?

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Speaker 1: And I wish you did, though. You should just dangle,

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Speaker 1: Well you just dangle, just dangle out there a little bit.

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Speaker 2: It's a hot crush. I've been waiting for one for

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Speaker 1: But okay, but I don't want to gass you up necessarily.

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Speaker 1: But why Why is that?

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Speaker 2: who they actually are. I don't think that's happening in

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Speaker 1: Sure, But she was.

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Speaker 2: Just like, nah, it's not a thing. You shouldn't do this.

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Speaker 2: You're not actually dating in a real way because you're

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Speaker 1: We've talked about her before and her her advice and

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Speaker 1: It's basically like, Okay, sometimes you have to hear hard

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Speaker 1: And that is a part of it is basically being like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm purposely trying to be like, Okay, you have to

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Speaker 1: and that is humiliating. But I also think that yeah.

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Speaker 2: We've had do you think that couple felt yeah.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe she didn't even know we were trying

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Speaker 1: That's the thing is that you have to like be

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Speaker 1: But I also think like should know everything, should know

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Speaker 2: I just am like, can I just have this for

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Speaker 2: being unrealistic. It's a crush. I'm not saying I am

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Speaker 2: going to marry this person. This is it. I'm like, no, Wow,

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Speaker 2: how fucking great as an absolute pessimist to find one

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Speaker 2: every fucking way. He's hot, he's smart, he's funny, he's cool.

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Speaker 2: Like that gives me hope even if it's not that particular. Dude. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so let's not burst the bubble too too soon. But

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Speaker 2: I also need to be read for filth because I

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Speaker 1: Everybody was on your side on that debate, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Like everybody that messaged me was basically like, I love

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Speaker 2: Well then they need to get up there and act

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Speaker 2: like it instead of fucking letting these people run over you.

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Speaker 1: I meanwill Actually it's not words.

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Speaker 2: sometimes you better be out there with me, act and't

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Speaker 2: like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think for me, do I truly think

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Don't you sometimes do that when you're like in the world,

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Speaker 1: most part, everybody has something beautiful about them, right, except

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Speaker 2: Like I find things objectly beautiful about most people. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a nice way to be in the world,

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Speaker 2: and I think that people are genuinely beautiful. But hot

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Speaker 2: that I don't appreciate.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess other people would say confidence.

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Speaker 1: I look, I love I love a little conf I'm

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Speaker 1: an aries like, come on, like, let's drill down what

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Speaker 1: this is really about. It is astrological when it comes

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Speaker 1: to it. I'm like, I love people who are like

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Speaker 1: just have like a Joasa vivra.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always fucking hot. That's that's very attractive.

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Speaker 1: That's hot when you when you when you come down

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Speaker 1: so that's a different level of hotness. I'm a simp

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Speaker 1: for all of those hot people. I just want to

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Speaker 1: give them my bank accounts and.

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Speaker 2: I would say I ended up getting on a motorcycle

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00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: for the first time because somebody was hot.

432
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about this. Because I saw this on

433
00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: your Instagram and I was like, uh, what how this happen?

434
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: I did not want to tell anybody first. I didn't

435
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: if I would go through with it. Sure, Like, am

436
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: I really going to get on a motorcycle? Of all

437
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: the messaging I've received in my life? Am I really

438
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: getting on the back of this fucking motorcycle? But then

439
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: also because of who it was, Oh my god.

440
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: Who was it? What are you? Are you bleeping that

441
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: out bleep that?

442
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we absolutely are cutting that just bleep it.

443
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: It's more mysterious when you go back.

444
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: It is. Okay, so we'll bleep it, we'll beleeve it.

445
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll bleep that.

446
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I've already had to get over a

447
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: crush on this person, okay, And then they showed up

448
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: to my house on a fucking motorcycle. Oh my god,

449
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: dude with like the leather jacket and the helmet and

450
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: the tall and the cute and I was like, I

451
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: don't know if I should do this for my own heart.

452
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if I should do this because I

453
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: then just spent two hours, three hours, like just holding

454
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 2: on to him. Yeah, it was fun. It was fun.

455
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: I look, I cannot counsel that you do that again

456
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: with him, just knowing the history. But goddamn, is it

457
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: a vibe when somebody pulls up to your house on

458
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: a motorcycle. Yeah, that happened to me once. And it

459
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: was just a friend. It wasn't even it wasn't even

460
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: somebody that I was like, you know, wanting to date.

461
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is like one of the

462
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: sexiest things that's ever happened to me, Like, what is

463
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: somebody coming up on a motorcycle, being like it takes

464
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: the helmet off, dust off, the like fucking leather jacket

465
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: on your front door, and is like, what's up, What's

466
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: what's up? What are you doing today? And I'm like,

467
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: this is a fucking real cool breeze and I love

468
00:25:59,040 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: it every.

469
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 2: Second completely, And the ride itself was great, like it

470
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 2: feels so weird and different from obviously from being in

471
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: a car. It was super fun. I really trusted him,

472
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: like he's been riding motorcycles his whole life, so I

473
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: really trusted him. And he was a great driver and

474
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: great about having a passenger who was new to this,

475
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: like he's done this before. So it was that was

476
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: all solid. When I tell you that, I got three

477
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: messages from different local people, one being my neighbor. My

478
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: neighbor was like, did we just see you get on

479
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: a motorcycle and drive away like a very young, very.

480
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: To your lawn. Don't try to look at what I'm doing.

481
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: And then I got two other messages from people that

482
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: were like, I'm not sure, but I think I just

483
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: saw you riding on a motorcycle and I could only

484
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: tell because of your blue hair waving in the breeze

485
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, that was me. It's a

486
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: dead giveaway. I got these tiny little blue braids. That's

487
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: a dead fucking giveaway.

488
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you cannot do anything forward facing and sexy in

489
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: your town because people were gonna call you out on it.

490
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: I can't be sexy here because like, what do you

491
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: what do you do when vibing against this dude on

492
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: a bike, you forty seven year old weirdo.

493
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: I absolutely fucking love this for you, like a.

494
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: It's like grease too.

495
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: You're on the back, You're like the fucking You're like

496
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: the Michelle Pfeiffer. Get on the back of the cool

497
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: rider mobile. God, that's so awesome. I want this for you.

498
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: I look awesome on the back of a fucking motorcycle.

499
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: I gotta say I do awesome.

500
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: I totally can see this for you. I think you

501
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: should go out there. Get a jacket, get a leather

502
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: jacket if you don't have one already.

503
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: I don't. I had a fake, cropped plastic like aso

504
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: jacket that I wore. About the time I was done,

505
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: it was like flaking off. It could not have been

506
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: less of a leather jacket. It was like a fashion

507
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: cropped leather jacket. But we stopped for gas and everybody

508
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 2: was looking at us, like, because it's a cool ass

509
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: bike too, it's a really nice bike. Yeah, and he

510
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: looked again, deadly sexy and very cool on it with.

511
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: Like the tattoos going on. And then you just like,

512
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, straddle the middle part, kick your leg over

513
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: like a badass, like yo, I love this for you.

514
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: I love it.

515
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: It's a lethal combination. But here's what sucks. It's normally

516
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: this in this situation, I'd be like, well, I'll get

517
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: my own motorcycle. Yes, if I want to look cool

518
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: and be sexy and whatever, like, I can do that.

519
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to get a motorcycle. I love being

520
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: a passenger.

521
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: Listen, I am going to agree with you on that.

522
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: I don't think you should get your own. I think

523
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: you should hug it. I think you should be hugging

524
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: men tightly behind them for the rest of your life.

525
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: Also, you could be a big bitch on a motorcycle.

526
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: Oh a lot of like this shit is built for

527
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: tiny ladies. You can be a big ass, six foot

528
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: tall bitch on the back of a motorcycle. It can

529
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: handle the weight of you.

530
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean these things are like, you're not riding

531
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: a Vespa. This is like a machine. So but everybody

532
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: looks cool coming off that shit. I don't give a

533
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: fuck who you are, Like completely, yeah, oh dude, I

534
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: love this is like motorcycle passenger summer for you. You should

535
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: continue to ride. Do you know, do you know any

536
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: other hot guys that owned motorcycles.

537
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: The only other people who I know that own motorcycle

538
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: are motorcycles are people's dads. And you know what I

539
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: feel about dads. Dads and hot people. Put them in

540
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: the same category. I'm touching them in a limited way.

541
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: No, you don't want that, because then they're gonna like

542
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: pull out the Eagles greatest hits and you live some

543
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: fucking some shit that you weren't a part of. Like, yo,

544
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm not a part of this fantasy, your fucking boomer

545
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: nostalgia fantasy.

546
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: Like they're blasting the Big Chill soundtrack at one of

547
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: those like motorcycle speakers. Fuck out of here.

548
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: I love this for you. And in terms of like

549
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: this whole thing about you know, being around people, like

550
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: re reworking the dating mindset, you know, I don't know,

551
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: I think that it's hard work to date This is

552
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: why I think people are afraid of it, and I

553
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: think that people do want to live in the fantasy

554
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: realm of just like having crushes online that will never materialize,

555
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: and you know, seeing people from Afar without really like

556
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: thinking that it could actually happen for them. Because yeah,

557
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: it is a lot of like hard truths, it's a

558
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: lot of like rejections. But then I also think now, too, bitch,

559
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: I have gone through so many hard things in my

560
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: life that like getting rejected from a dude on a

561
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: motorcycle is like low priors. Like I'm like, oh, I

562
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: almost died, I lost my entire career in livelihood. I've

563
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: been through like death, I've been through disease, I've been

564
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: through world events. The fuck do I give a shit if,

565
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: like I'm flirting with somebody who doesn't want to date

566
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: me at a bar, Like, it's like not a big

567
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: deal anymore.

568
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: That's how I ended up on the back of this spike,

569
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: because now I'm just like, well, we could just be friends.

570
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: It's fine, Like I like you as a person. You

571
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: don't have to be attracted to me. It's fine.

572
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

573
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: Worse things have definitely happened to me than somebody being

574
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: like I do not want to kiss you, and I'm.

575
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: Like great, Yeah, let's keep it moving. Yeah, I mean

576
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: I think that we're both evolving.

577
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: I love that for us, the age of elegance, that

578
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: we are in.

579
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: An age of elegance. We are, we've crossed a red

580
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: line through dirtback June. We're in the first rule of eight.

581
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: What is it you said? The first rule of Age

582
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: of elegance is shush your fucking mouth.

583
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: Shut your mouth, age of everyone. Shut your mouth.

584
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: Me too, well, I'm excited to see where the wind

585
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: takes us both.

586
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: Let's just say that I am as well. And I

587
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: think again, the least you could do for yourself is

588
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: start being aware of signals. Yes, even if it only

589
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: protects you from getting in some weird situations.

590
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: Yes, agreed, and also open minded this like, yeah, you know,

591
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: stay open.

592
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: Go home with a couple. They probably have cake, They

593
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: probably like cooked a meal that night, they have like

594
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: leftovers for dinner, if they.

595
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: Have books, email us at a saw what you did

596
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: pot at you buil dot com. I'm kidding.

597
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: If you are in a couple and you have a

598
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: grill and you made dinner and you want to invite

599
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: Milly over.

600
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: No, I am not dating couple. Sorry, like you don't

601
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: have to date them, just go have dinner and fuck.

602
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: Sorry mister missus the Jericho.

603
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're both having heart attacks as we speak.

604
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, I killed your parents. That's the worst ending

605
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: for this podcast of all.

606
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Let's reset my parents's brains. Uh, or let's reset my parents' brain.

607
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: What's some emails? Do you want to go fish?

608
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: I'll read the first one?

609
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Okay.

610
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: The subject of the first email is the time I

611
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: told my BF to leave them bones alone him, Millie,

612
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: and Danielle as always, thank you for the weekly sometimes

613
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: bi weekly belly roll laughs. I subject my neighbors to

614
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: at six am as I get ready for work. While

615
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: listening to you discuss Poltergeist and Lone Star, I suddenly

616
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: remembered an interesting story I have seldom told people, and

617
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: when I do, the subject line ends up being that

618
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: time my boyfriend offered me human remains.

619
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: Huh.

620
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: But for the sake of keeping with the theme, I'll

621
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: retitle it here as the time I told my boyfriend

622
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: to leave them bones alone. For context purposes, I'm practicing

623
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: pagan and I have my full altar out at home.

624
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: The man I've been seeing for several years is adorably

625
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: ignorant of my practice, which is totally fine with me.

626
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: Then one day, out of nowhere, he asks if I'd

627
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: be interested in a human skull for my altar. I

628
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: responded appropriately with an absolutely fucking not. But I had

629
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: to ask where this skull would have even come from.

630
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: He went on to explain he had been doing some

631
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: abandoned building exploring, not uncommon in our area, especially with

632
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: old mental hospitals. So the story tracks for me, and

633
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: one of the places he was at had an old

634
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: graveyard where the ground had eroded so badly the caskets

635
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: were just balls out with bones sticking out. We then

636
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: got into a conversation about why he thought I'd like

637
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: some bones on my altar and how I don't need

638
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: random old asylum patience, ghosts going through my kitchen at

639
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: night and pissing off my cats. Yes, we're still together. No,

640
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: he has not offered me any remain sense. However, we

641
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: both agree when it comes to a haunted house, just

642
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: burn that shit down and walk away. Much love, Christine,

643
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: Holy shit, so much to go through in this email, Christine,

644
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: I love all of it. First and foremost, how does

645
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: this dude not acknowledge your altar? Like how do you

646
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: live with an altar and not engage with it even

647
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: a little bit once or twice? Like what is that?

648
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: What are you putting on it? What's up with paganism? Something?

649
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: If he himself because I'm not sure if he himself

650
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: is a pagan or not. I can't tell from this email,

651
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: but I feel like not so, like, where's the curiosity, boyfriend?

652
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: I mean, am I am I alone in thinking that

653
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: that was kind of sweet?

654
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: No, I think it's darling, Like he was like, I

655
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: don't know shit about fuck, but how about a human skull?

656
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: Like he was just like one of those little kiddy

657
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: cats that brings a rat on your door step. And

658
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: it's like I did a good thing, didn't I Like,

659
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: I practice for you? Like I know you like this thing.

660
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: I listen. I love My love language is acts of service,

661
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: So I'm like, this is this is sweet?

662
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: Also, I do think it's sweet that he didn't just

663
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: bring the skull into the home. He asked if she

664
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: would be interested in the skull before bringing it into

665
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: the house, which is thoughtful, very thoughtful.

666
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: But let's also.

667
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: Talk about this area where you're living, been homie, what

668
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: fucking bones? Pop it out of the ground from an

669
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: old asylum. Nobody can just drop some dirt off in

670
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: that piece or relocate those people.

671
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: Look, this is the horrors of gentrification that that happens

672
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: all the time around here where I'm just like, yo,

673
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: they'll tear down like anything, Like they'll just be like, yo,

674
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: was this the side of tragedy? Why don't we just

675
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: put like a fucking multi use live work play.

676
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: Was this time the Atlanta Olympic bombing? Not anymore? Sorry,

677
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: Richard Jewel, not anymore? Do you want to Tim Horton's here?

678
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 2: Let's just put it around here. I feel like these

679
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: folks are some dignity and maybe get over there with

680
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: a goddamn dump truck.

681
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I'm so. I don't know anything about paganism obviously,

682
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: but I I would say, yeah, I mean, like, first

683
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: of all, a skull is a bridge too far.

684
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: I feel like it's just you know, starts so way.

685
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: Simple, like a toe, a phalangy or something like skull

686
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: is like zero to all hunter.

687
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: Real quick, right, just one rib, right.

688
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: But I would have to also question, like in what circumstance,

689
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: did this skull come into your life and then would

690
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: judge accordingly? Right?

691
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: Like secause this is the other thing, Like I understand

692
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: that this area is lousy with caskets and bones, but

693
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: what a great cover for a serial killer.

694
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you just gave a bunch of ideas.

695
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: What a great cover, Like, Oh, there's bones everywhere. If

696
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: I kill somebody and melt the skin and muscle off

697
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: of them, I can just say I found it.

698
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: Have you seen this? This is a sort of an aside.

699
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: Have you seen the trailer for the new Josh Hartnett movie. No, okay,

700
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: so apparently Josh harten It's back, which I'm very much about.

701
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know about you.

702
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 2: Or I watched the whole TV series Penny Dreadful or whatever.

703
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: I watched the whole thing because he was in it. Yeah.

704
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: Well, so we were at the movies the other night

705
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: and there was a trailer. It's from like the new

706
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: m Night Shamalan movie or something. It's like wild. But

707
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: I think the premise, I want to say, this is

708
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: the premise for that having read it, is that he

709
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: gets like he he takes his daughter to like a

710
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: K pop show or something, and then is locked in

711
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: the arena with everybody and is he's a serial killer

712
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: or something like that? Like I think that that's the premise,

713
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: is that Josh Hartnett is a serial killer trapped inside

714
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: of a.

715
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: K pop concert and killing is like amplified by by

716
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: a claustrophobia, like like the minute he feels penned in,

717
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: he's got to start killing.

718
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: I mean it's like the I'm that sure? Like what like?

719
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: Because to me, I looked like they showed the Fate

720
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: performer and she looked like she was in like a

721
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: K pop band or like Lady Gaga or so you know,

722
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: she was just basically like an ethereal Asian looking performer,

723
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: And so I was like, so, I guess the thought

724
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: experiment is what would happen if Josh Harden was a

725
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: serial killer and killed people at a K pop concert?

726
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: And where? And also like where would you put bodies

727
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: like a in a music venue? What would you do?

728
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: Like? Oh, you know how many hallways there are in

729
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: the back and all those electrical spots. I can hide

730
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: a body in an arena in ten minutes flat? What ten

731
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: minutes flat? There's fucking kitchens and that shit there's goddamn

732
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 2: elevators that go beneath the earth. Their shit happening underground,

733
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: the electrical options around. Put them on a cart, you'd

734
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: never know. Oh, they passed out, they were having a

735
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 2: hard time.

736
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: You're telling me that you okay, you're telling me that

737
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: you would be able to hide a body in a

738
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: music venue in ten minutes flat without no without anybody

739
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: seeing you. What about like the hundred Grandpa, that's like

740
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: pushing a broom one hundred percent.

741
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: That man ain't saying nothing. He's getting paim ten dollars

742
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 2: an hour to sweep up after Britney spears he doesn't

743
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: give a shit. He's seen multimillionaires come through and not

744
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: even give him the time of day. That home, he's

745
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: on my side. I ain't gonna say shit.

746
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: You see like like carrying a body through the spinal

747
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: tap guts of this uh music arena, and then you

748
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: see like a basketball mascot with his head removed, smoking

749
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: a cigarette sullenly at the corner, and then he just

750
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: like gives you a nod. And then as you're just

751
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: like drag a bloody body to a dumpster.

752
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: Absolutely that motherfucker is like I got child support to pay.

753
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: I can't get into this shit.

754
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: It's like when.

755
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,959
Speaker 2: People die in theme parks and they don't ever tell you,

756
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: like how many deaths there have been at Disney. They

757
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: have a whole contingency plan for people dieing at Disneyland

758
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: that no one even fucking knows about. Something in arenas.

759
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and cruises too.

760
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: Everyone working there is just like, yeah, absolutely, cruises. All

761
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: these places where there are a ton of people congregate,

762
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: They've got ways to get the body out as fast

763
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: as possible.

764
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: This is fascinating shit.

765
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: I'm not saying if I kill, I'm saying, when I kill,

766
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 2: will be in a fucking arena, Okay, Just to prove

767
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: the point, Just to prove the point.

768
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: Man, you are having a summer right now, motorcycle and

769
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: the murdering and everything. I'm I think that.

770
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: For you, reckless summer, Bring my seventy when I'm seventy five,

771
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: Bring me to a fucking concert and just know that

772
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: someone will be dying that night. It'll be like a

773
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: little scavenger hunt. Who died? And where are they?

774
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: Having said that the movie does not look good, I

775
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, maybe I'll watch the trailer and

776
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: I and like I said, I was kind of like

777
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: half watching it, but I was like, as much as

778
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: I love Josh Hartnett Old, I'd like, I don't know,

779
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: do I want to see this movie? But whatever, Like

780
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: I guess it ultimately means that I actually think Christine's

781
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: partner boyfriend whomever is sweet for asking if she wants

782
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: a skull.

783
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: I think it's very sweet, and I also think I

784
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: think it could be both. I think it could be sweet,

785
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: and I think he might have killed and it's worth

786
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: looking into, but probably fine.

787
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: But I love a weird sweet, don't you like a

788
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: love of life?

789
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: Of course, it's a thoughtfulness that counts.

790
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: I think it's because I watched that season of the

791
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: Real World London where uh the box.

792
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, a barbed wire tongue in a box and a

793
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: generation of us weirdos fucking swooning.

794
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: I mean that was a flashpoint moment for culture. Let's

795
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: get serious.

796
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: That is what it was a lot of human tongue.

797
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: Also, that is what all the goths activated in the

798
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: most hardcore way.

799
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: We didn't even know that was possible. Yeah, I did

800
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: even know that level of love and expression was possible.

801
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I I'm just saying, I mean, I

802
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's nice. He didn't come home

803
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: with it. He just simply asked after she assumed he

804
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: had absolutely no interest in her passion. So I'm just saying, Baseline,

805
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: that's sweet and sweet and I love it.

806
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: I completely agree. And I'm not even saying he is

807
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: a serial killer. I'm just saying, what if? What a

808
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: great cover. Also, you don't have to be You could

809
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: have just killed one person. That's not a serial killer,

810
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 2: that's just a killer. Yeah, and if they kill for you,

811
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: you know, no, it is sweet. I'm just joking about

812
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: the killing, of course, but I'm also inadvertently giving a

813
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: lot of people some ideas on how to cover up

814
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: a murder. If that's what loves that and the bonus

815
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: that's what comes out.

816
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: You love that practical information for sure. Let's keep the

817
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: goth train rolling.

818
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: Then with this next Christine.

819
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: Yes, the title of this email is called bram Stoker Pinball.

820
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: Hey ladies, A few weeks ago you said you would

821
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: love for there to be a bram Stoker's Dracula movie

822
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: pinball machine, and I am here to let you know

823
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: it exists. One of our local dive bars and Ballard

824
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: north of downtown Seattle. Sorry, Danielle called olifs has a

825
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: room just for pinball. This particular machine is my favorite,

826
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: and I couldn't wait to get a picture for you.

827
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: Enjoy what a photo of this, Bram Stoker.

828
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 2: Man a machine. I'm sorry that it has to grace

829
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: the grounds of Seattle to be played, but it's a

830
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: great fucking machine.

831
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd play the fuck out of it.

832
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: Maybe we could post the picture because it's a great

833
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: picture too. It's like very eerie and spooky, but I

834
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: love that it exists. I love that there used to

835
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: be a time and maybe they still still is where

836
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: there was just a cottage industry of marketing representatives who

837
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: set aside a little bit of a budget for a

838
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: pinball machine.

839
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm about it. I think they should keep it going,

840
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: like they should be marketing all Like they should put

841
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: that Josh Hartnett m Night Shamalan movie on a fucking

842
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: pinball machine.

843
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: What else? What'd you see out of? What else are

844
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: you watching right now? Or like I just I know,

845
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: I just sent you a text the other day that

846
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: Old Boyfriends is on Criterion Channel this month. What if

847
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: there was like an old boyfriend's pinball machine, just to

848
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: be like it's back. You can find it now a critarian.

849
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: Listen, I so what are the local theaters here is

850
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: doing a Gregoraki month because yeah, five months, and you

851
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: know there's all those kind of like new fancy theatrical

852
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: re releases of some of his movies. They need a

853
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: Gregoracki pinball machine.

854
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: Hole likely a fucking doom generation pinball machine.

855
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: Yes, a living end pinball machine where basically you like

856
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: hit a ball into like a teenage mutant Ninja Turtles

857
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: water bottle or something like. I listen, possibilities are endless, clearly,

858
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: but I uh, I love bring back Hollywood marketing pr

859
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: whoever the fuck you are, bring back the promotional pinball machine.

860
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: I would love it. Absolutely. Just snatch like a couple

861
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: of dollars away from the Stanley Cup influencers and give

862
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: it to the pinball people like it's an art. It's

863
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: an art.

864
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: There's so much fucking swag now, like so many people

865
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: like bands movies, Like everybody puts out so much bullshit,

866
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: Like have you ever been to a five below? Do

867
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: you know what a five blow is?

868
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: I know exactly what it is. I've never been in one.

869
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well A five below is basically like a repository

870
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: for like every branded merch experience that a company has.

871
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: Like it's just sort of like like there are no

872
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: blank products in that and that's it's just like, you know,

873
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: do you want a shelf if for themed you know,

874
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: yoga mat or whatever. It's like very But I'm just saying,

875
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: maybe like reroute some of those funds to make pinball

876
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: machines and then put them in cool places and people

877
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: will will continue continue to buy your products. I guarantee it.

878
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: They are eternal. It is never ending advertising.

879
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, this is why we don't run the world,

880
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: all right. Our ideas are too powerful.

881
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: They're too afraid of us.

882
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: That's right.

883
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: Also because I keep saying that I might commit a

884
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 2: murder one day.

885
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: But to your credit, you have mentioned this before, Like

886
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: you remember you talked about murdering somebody in a movie

887
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: theater because if they try to like fuck with you,

888
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: you would just murder them.

889
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: Because the thought that pops up too often, and that

890
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: could be a signal of paramedopause. I don't know, but

891
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: it's a more persistent thought that I would like for

892
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: it to be it's probably because I'm out in these woods. Like,

893
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: there's lots of reasons why I'm constantly thinking, yeah, I

894
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: could probably do it if I had to, not that

895
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: I want to.

896
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: You said it from the very beginning. You said you

897
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: have a very strong survival instinct. Completely okay, so let's

898
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: move on to this next one.

899
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: Ooh, this was a good one. This is from Florencia

900
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: who uses she her pronouns, and it's the subject is

901
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: a fellow woc here with a question for Millie. So

902
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: pay attention to Chercho. You're on Day Hi, Queen's non

903
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: Day one listener here. I'm currently catching up on all

904
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: of your episodes, including the Bonnuts. I'm up to Summer

905
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and I'm dreading the day when I've

906
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 2: caught up and we'll have to wait a full week

907
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 2: for a new episode to be released. A few things

908
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: before we get to the question, I know you are

909
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: baffled by people who listen to your epps but never

910
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: watch the movies. I have a slight twist to this,

911
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: and then I like listening to your reviews of the

912
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: movie first and then watch the movie. I really love

913
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: getting see them through your lens. And noticing things I

914
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't have noticed without you. It makes me feel like

915
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: you're there watching them with me. Okay, so here's the question.

916
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 2: As a fellow half Asian, half European lady Indonesian slash German,

917
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 2: I feel like Millie is a sister from another mister

918
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: to me. I don't see myself represented much in media,

919
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: so I can't tell you how good it feels to

920
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: finally recognize myself in someone like MILLI, especially someone who

921
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 2: is such a fucking badass. I've been wondering how Milly

922
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: reconciles loving old movies with the fact that people of

923
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: color are underrepresented, if not even portrayed, in super outdated

924
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: and racist ways. I've recently been getting into them and

925
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: have enjoyed them, but this is something I struggle with.

926
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: I watched Breakfast at Tiffany's for the first time, and

927
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: needless to say, I was absolutely shook by mister Unioshi's character.

928
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: Curious to hear Milly's take on this. Hope you'll read

929
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: my email, but I'll I guess even if you do,

930
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: I'll have to wait until I've caught up to find out.

931
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: Oh well, love you ladies of Florencia.

932
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: Wow, Florencia. First of all, thank you for saying all

933
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: those nice things about me. Jesus Christ, Like I'm feeling

934
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: to love. Y'all are really gassing me up all the time.

935
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: I so appreciate it. One thing I want to say

936
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: up front is that recently, because of TikTok, I've heard

937
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 1: the term wasian being thrown around for like ricks Rice,

938
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: people like Florencia and I, and I'm.

939
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 2: Like, really, is that a thing?

940
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: Like here are the kids calling themselves Wasian. I'm like, Okay,

941
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: it feels weird to say it, may because I'm just older,

942
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: but I'm like, okay, I guess this is the vibe.

943
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: Is this like riz where like you age out at

944
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: a certain point and you can't say it.

945
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: Or like no cap or something.

946
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: You said no cap to me and a fucking DM

947
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 2: the other day and I almost rolled off my chair.

948
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: Well it's because I was so proud that I figured

949
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: out what it was.

950
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: It was perfect, it was perfect, but I was it

951
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: was out of nowhere, and I was like, yes, listen,

952
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: once in a.

953
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: While, saying a thing that a fourteen year old kid

954
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: says can be impactful.

955
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: So if nothing else and to scare the shit out

956
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: of them. You're like, yeah, I'm onto you. I know

957
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: exactly what you're saying.

958
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: Listen. I did have to actually, like I actually walked

959
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: myself through what no cap means. I'm like, okay, so

960
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: how does this work? What is the context for this?

961
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, So when you are using all

962
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: capital letters say in a text, you're being I don't know, exaggerated, right,

963
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: You're you're not being super authentic. So when you don't

964
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: use capital letters, you are being real.

965
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: Yes, So that's.

966
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: Why you say no cap because you're just basically saying

967
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: to someone for real though, like to be honest, this

968
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: is what's happening. So you just be like, no cap.

969
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: I do want a Michelle Fi for yoga mat like whatever.

970
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: You know.

971
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: So anyway, I was so proud of figuring it out

972
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: that that's why I used it because I was like,

973
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: I learned to do a thing.

974
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: It was seamless. It was seamless.

975
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: Yes, that's all I care about is that it's seamless.

976
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: That I'm not like, that's Steve U chemy me with

977
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: the skateboard, right, like you don't want that.

978
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 2: But that's where I feel like Waisian might take us

979
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: is Steve who sent.

980
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: Me with yah ya, No, I don't know if I can.

981
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: I can do that.

982
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 2: That's kind of cool, that's tight.

983
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Florencia, if you have thoughts on Waysian, email

984
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: us back. But so, I've been thinking about this because

985
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: obviously this is like such a huge deal. And I

986
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: have to say, Danielle, you probably have thoughts on this too. Obviously.

987
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: I remember very early on when we started the podcast

988
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: and we talked about Westerns. You know, you you know,

989
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,959
Speaker 1: we're very honest about your feelings on Westerns and about

990
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: how you felt like it was not something you would

991
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: be interested in because it was just such a weird

992
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: domain of like whiteness and representation for Indigenous people or

993
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: you know whomever Native Americans like pretty much anybody poc

994
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: in a Western. Yeah, right, And I don't know. To me,

995
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: I think that part of it is that, as the

996
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: other like and I say, like, this is such a

997
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: wide group obviously, right, you just are constantly not seeing

998
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: yourself represented ever. So I just feel like, so you

999
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: you have this like base level of at adapting. I

1000
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: suppose is the word right to the idea that popular

1001
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: culture is never from your point of view, right, And

1002
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to make this like super academic, but

1003
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: I love Stuart Hall, who is a you know, uh,

1004
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: basically was a media scholar. He passed away like not

1005
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: too long ago. It's kind of a cultural study scholar.

1006
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: He's part of the like Birmingham School or whatever. You

1007
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: learn about him a lot in media studies and probably

1008
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: women's studies and just you know, when you're in grad school,

1009
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: even though I did read him in undergrad. But he

1010
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: has this entire thing that's called basically it's the it's

1011
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: called the encoding slash decoding model, right, which is that

1012
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: in a hegemony I guess you is the best word

1013
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: for it, or you know, when you're in a white,

1014
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: patriarchal capitalist society, you're constantly having to negotiate your positioning

1015
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: in everything that you watch, not just like TV, but

1016
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: music and movies and stuff, and so you have techniques

1017
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: to help you negotiate things. And so you either, I mean,

1018
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: he kind of goes further into it saying that, like,

1019
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, there's kind of like three methods of trying

1020
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: to understand what you're watching as a person of color,

1021
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: as a woman, as a gay person, as whomever. Which

1022
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: is that like you either accept the narrative as is

1023
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: you like fuck with it in your own little way,

1024
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: or you reject it, right, And I feel like that

1025
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: is like every time I think about myself in that

1026
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: position of being like, oh, here I am watching you know,

1027
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: another old movie where you know this character is bad.

1028
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: Like it's like I'll tell you right now, like the

1029
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: Breakfast at Tiffany's thing is terrible, and I have a

1030
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: hard time watching it. I actually have a hard time

1031
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: watching Breakfast at Tiffany's because of it.

1032
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: Right, oh whenever, anyways, is that's my favorite movie? I'm like,

1033
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: you are someone who is absolutely not checked into the

1034
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: world in a way that I can fuck with because

1035
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: there is so much about that movie that is a

1036
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: disgrace that I don't care what Audrey Hepburn looks like.

1037
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: I can't get past it.

1038
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but see that's to that point though, I I

1039
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: there are parts of the movie that I think are

1040
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: very charming, Like, yeah, I think George Prepard is so

1041
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: cute in that movie. And there is like parts of

1042
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: that movie that I think are really sweet and charming,

1043
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: Like you know the idea of this kind of party

1044
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: girl who has parties at her house and they're you

1045
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: know whatever, like whatever, there's there's a reason why people

1046
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: love that movie so much. But then there are the

1047
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: parts where you get the like Mickey Rudy character. I

1048
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a case. My case basis

1049
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: to be honest, because I'm not really reaching for the

1050
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: remote every time that movie is on, Like I'm like,

1051
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll sit in front of it. Most times I won't,

1052
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: and I and I think it's because in my in

1053
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: the in my mind, that bad part is like eclipsing

1054
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: the good parts, right, But I do feel like it's

1055
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: like I feel like for me, it was important for

1056
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: me to just watch it and to see what it

1057
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: was about. Yeah, and being able to pull out some

1058
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: goodness I think is important for me because I don't like,

1059
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: like I said, it's it's hard because you're just sort

1060
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: of like I want to be a student of everything,

1061
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: and I want to watch everything, even if it's problematic,

1062
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: even if it's fucked up. I mean, like we're experienced people.

1063
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: We just want to know more about the world. But yeah,

1064
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 1: it's hard sometimes when you're in a position to where

1065
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: it's just not like either there's something terrible, like there's blackface,

1066
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: or you know, there's like people like white people assuming

1067
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: other races or you know, I mean it's or violence

1068
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: even it's it's not it's not perfect, And I don't know.

1069
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean maybe I'm trying. I hope I'm not doing

1070
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: like a tap dance around what I this question is

1071
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: because I do feel like I do think about the

1072
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: negotiation of things like I and that's an adaptive technique.

1073
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: We were just talking about that, I guess earlier in

1074
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: the episode.

1075
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: But like.

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Speaker 1: We have that skill to do that. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: it's fun and I'm saying that hopefully we're working to

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Speaker 1: it's a world where we have we can drop that bullshit.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that, like as I've been going

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Speaker 1: through movies my entire life and music and culture and arts,

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Speaker 1: and I just have always known that it's hard for

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Speaker 1: me to find a representation, especially specific representation as being

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Speaker 1: like a half European half Asian person, Like it's like

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Speaker 1: you never see people like that, and so it's just

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Speaker 1: sort of like I don't know, like it's not it's

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Speaker 1: not I can't I wish I could be like very

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Speaker 1: succinct about what I'm trying to communicate right now, but

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Speaker 1: I do think that, like, it's hard.

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Speaker 2: To be succinct about this because it's it's something. But

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Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying completely and I agree with

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Speaker 2: you that they're and I think to kind of also

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Speaker 2: just weigh in on the question as well, that it

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Speaker 2: is hard. You know, I don't basically, I don't think

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Speaker 2: you have to reconcile old films in any way. If

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Speaker 2: you're watching something that just isn't you're not about it,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to watch it, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: engage with it, you don't have to have an opinion

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Speaker 2: about it. You can just not enjoy it, and that's okay.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that it is dangerous to kind

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Speaker 2: of whole cloth reject things without understanding them first. And

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Speaker 2: the understanding that I'm trying to reach with old films

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Speaker 2: myself is that we just haven't reached a parody yet culturally.

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Speaker 2: So the old films still feel particularly egregious because we

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Speaker 2: are still not seeing ourselves represented enough. So I think

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Speaker 2: that we're trying to get there, like we're trying to

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Speaker 2: balance it out more, and I think when we start

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Speaker 2: seeing more representation it'll maybe be easier to see some

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Speaker 2: of these older films as these kind of historical relics

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Speaker 2: that don't really matter as much, or maybe you are

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Speaker 2: not as important in the span of film or in

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Speaker 2: the span of creation. But I do think that it's

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Speaker 2: natural to have a reaction to seeing something that is

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Speaker 2: objectly wrong. Yeah, just objectly wrong, like Recoisitivities is an

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Speaker 2: extreme example, but it's also a great example that that

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Speaker 2: character was just out of pocket completely, and so it's

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Speaker 2: hard to see that and try to engage with it academically, emotionally,

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Speaker 2: culturally because it's just fucking wrong. Yeah, And so I

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Speaker 2: think that, like, do you have to love the movie? No?

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Speaker 2: Can you love the movie? Probably, But I don't think

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Speaker 2: that you have to. I just I think there it's

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Speaker 2: easier for me to accept and kind of come to

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Speaker 2: some reconciliation with older films when I realize, first and foremost,

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Speaker 2: I have to put it in a place in time.

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Speaker 2: I have to put it in the right context to

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Speaker 2: even understand how this came to be, And then I

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Speaker 2: have to think about my own experience. It's work, it sucks,

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Speaker 2: it's work. But then I think about my own experience

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Speaker 2: and then I have to look at well, how does

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Speaker 2: my experience inform what I'm looking at, inform what I'm seeing,

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Speaker 2: what my thoughts are. So it doesn't make it like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'll never look at that because it's just too upsetting.

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Speaker 2: It's just like, no, I have to look at it

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Speaker 2: through my own lens and do a couple more steps

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Speaker 2: than most people probably have to do, but I can

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Speaker 2: still get there. And again, not every single older film

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Speaker 2: is purposefully trying to be offensive. I think that they

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Speaker 2: are now because the line has been moved. So that

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Speaker 2: makes sense that a lot of things that we're considered

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Speaker 2: normal are now rightfully considered very offensive the line has

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Speaker 2: been moved. But I also think that it's okay to

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Speaker 2: kind of look at film, especially because film is trying

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Speaker 2: is a cultural artifact, and film is telling us as

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01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: much about who we are when we're watching it as

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Speaker 2: who we were when it was made. So I think

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Speaker 2: in order to kind of not shy away from the

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01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: history of who we are, we sometimes have to see

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01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: the uglier side of ourselves, and film helps us do

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Speaker 2: that because it is so easy to put it contextually

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Speaker 2: in a place and say, well, this is what was

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01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: happening then wasn't that fucked up? And to have like

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Speaker 2: a reference, a historical reference, to say this was fucked up?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think that you have to. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's hard to reconcile with the fact that in film, especially,

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Speaker 2: wide swaths of people have been completely underrepresented for decades.

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Speaker 2: But also if you look at it in the span

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Speaker 2: of art, in the history of art, film is pretty

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01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 2: new in terms of the span of art. So I

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Speaker 2: think that, you know, we're in a time where we're

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Speaker 2: seeing a lot of again rightful and necessary changes, but

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Speaker 2: we're still pretty much it's still a pretty nascent art form. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I think it's okay to kind of look at

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Speaker 2: that earlier time and say like, oh yeah they were

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01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: they've complete fuck that the fuck up without having to

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Speaker 2: deny yourself a chance to experience art.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agree. I mean, like, yeah, you're right, film

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Speaker 1: is like what one hundred and twenty something years old.

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Speaker 1: Like if you think about like how long has painting

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Speaker 1: been around, Like it's a new art form, and you know, comparatively,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that like, yeah, it's it's an evolution.

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Speaker 1: And I think again, like everybody on this other side

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Speaker 1: of it has had to kind of figure out their

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Speaker 1: own way is to work it out. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think I will say that when I was younger, I

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Speaker 1: think my technique with dealing with seeing images that were

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Speaker 1: unsettling or offensive was humor. And I think that that

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Speaker 1: is kind of a again sort of like a way

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Speaker 1: to diffuse the messages of like the weird messages, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Because it was like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is what sort of camp is about, right, It's

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01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: it's basically like taking the power away from the thing

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01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: and giving it your own meaning and and and understanding

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01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: that that is fucked up, and but yet like you're

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Speaker 1: not going to internalize it and make it make you

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01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: feel better about You're going to use irony or humor

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01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: to process it in a better way for you. I

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Speaker 1: feel like that has kind of gone out the window culturally.

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Speaker 1: I feel like people are sort of less interested in, uh,

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01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, using that tactic. I think people are just

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01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: feeling things more directly. Yeah, And as I get older,

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Speaker 1: I feel that way too, obviously, Like I'm not living

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01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: in a world of like irony where I'm just like

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: nothing affects me. I'm just all I'm doing is like

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01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, making fun of the shit that offends me.

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Speaker 1: And obviously there are more stakes involved now than there

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Speaker 1: ever was when I was like fifteen. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's not easy. And again I apologize, Danielle

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01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: said it way better than me, But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I struggle with it all the time. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that is a good answer for your question.

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Speaker 1: And I do think it is like a person by person,

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01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: case by case basis. Like again, like I think because

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Speaker 1: Danielle and I are meiterro scholars and we study film

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Speaker 1: and we work in this business, like we just have

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Speaker 1: seen more of it and we've kind of have a

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Speaker 1: different reference point for things. But yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is a really thought provoking question. I'm just really

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Speaker 1: glad that you wrote in with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful. It's beautiful, and you can be it's

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Speaker 2: It's also a really thought provoking question about engagement. How

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Speaker 2: do you engage with art and how do you engage

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Speaker 2: with things that are just offensive to you or personally

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Speaker 2: that that challenger personal ethos. So I love that. I

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Speaker 2: love it. I think it's a very thoughtful question and

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Speaker 2: I hope we answered some of it in some way,

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Speaker 2: But I do think that, you know, there have also

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Speaker 2: been people who have been pointing out that the mister

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01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: Unioshi character in Breakfast the Tiffany's has been racist and

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Speaker 2: offensive since the movie came out. They just didn't have

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Speaker 2: a low enough voices to be taken seriously or for

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Speaker 2: it to matter to a lot of people back then.

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Speaker 2: So there are things being released now that are super

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Speaker 2: offensive to people. So I think that it just will

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Speaker 2: help you find more that you enjoy in older films

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Speaker 2: if you're able to remember how to contextualize it. And

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Speaker 2: then also, like Millie said, kind of figure out how

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Speaker 2: you want to engage with it. You know, do you

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Speaker 2: want to fuck with it? Do you want to ignore it?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to you know, all these different ways

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Speaker 2: that you can adapt to how you want to engage

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Speaker 2: with it, knowing that you don't have to engage with everything.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, absolutely, Well Dan.

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