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Speaker 3: I am sitting on the conference room floor of the

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Speaker 3: media hotel at the in San Antonio, hanging out with

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Speaker 3: the fellas. What better way to hang out? I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's just so much magic to the Final Four. I

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Speaker 3: am stunned every year.

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Speaker 2: This is every year.

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Speaker 3: Second year I've gotten to cover it for Yahoo. It

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Speaker 3: is insane. The vibes in San Antonio or through the roof.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, if Houston actually wins today and goes

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Speaker 3: on to the Final, this thing's gonna be wild because

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Speaker 3: it's so close in proximity, Like the fans are already

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Speaker 3: out in the streets, the restaurants are possible to get to,

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Speaker 3: like this is this great? The river walkers packed San

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Speaker 3: Antonio is doing the thing.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I was gonna ask you because I'm jealous. Man,

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Speaker 2: I love covering the Final four. I missed it. I'ven't

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Speaker 2: done it in a while. And I love San Antonio.

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Speaker 2: That is a great, great place. That river walks awesome,

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Speaker 2: the food's fantastic. It's a great town. Man, It's got

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Speaker 2: a great vibe to it. And uh, listen, I think

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Speaker 2: they got a shot. I love this dude, team. We'll

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Speaker 2: get me wrong, right, Like, I think they're pretty elite

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Speaker 2: and uh, you know what you saw is real. I

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Speaker 2: mean they you're obviously a great offensive team, but they

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Speaker 2: played really good defense. They get after you defensively, and

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Speaker 2: they're and they're you know, they're deep, right and Bagma

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Speaker 2: has been terrific as a freshman. We always talk about

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Speaker 2: Flag but like, they got players, man, and they're a

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Speaker 2: deep team. But Houston, Houston styles make fights and I

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Speaker 2: think Euston's live like used to can turn this into

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Speaker 2: a bit of a rock fight. They're real defensively. Duke

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Speaker 2: has seen many teams like.

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Speaker 3: That, No, not at all. And the one thing that

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Speaker 3: really stood out to me, even because yesterday they did

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Speaker 3: all the media availabilities so we kind of spent the

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Speaker 3: day going from room to room to room, and for

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Speaker 3: anyone that doesn't know that, each of the main players

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Speaker 3: is in their own sort of little conference room and

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Speaker 3: you could walk in and ask questions and you're just

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Speaker 3: trying to get a vibe in a feel I think

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Speaker 3: for a lot of people of how everything is. What

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Speaker 3: really surprised me about Houston and Duke both is how

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Speaker 3: relaxed they are. Honestly, like I would think with the

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Speaker 3: amount of attention that goes to Cooper Flag and his

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Speaker 3: family and you know, everything that would Duke basketball and

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Speaker 3: the fact that Duke basketball hasn't won a national championship

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Speaker 3: since what twenty fifteen, So you know, you would think

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Speaker 3: that there's all this feeling of pressure with this particular team,

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Speaker 3: and then you spend a few minutes with him and

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Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like it at all. Like talking to

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Speaker 3: Conkinebble yesterday, he's so locked in but also relaxed, like

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Speaker 3: there just seems to be a joy in friendship to

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Speaker 3: what they're doing with Duke that I thought was surprising.

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Speaker 3: But then I say the same thing with Houston. I

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Speaker 3: mean I kept asking everybody around Houston how the moment

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Speaker 3: all of these sorts of things, and you know how

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Speaker 3: you could just read body language. Like last year, you

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Speaker 3: can feel that some of the teams in the final

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Speaker 3: four felt tight. This year, honestly, it just feels like

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Speaker 3: everybody's in a really happy Yeah, we deserve to be here.

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Speaker 3: We're a really good basketball team. We belong in this process. Confidence,

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Speaker 3: but it's all done with the level of comfort and

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Speaker 2: That's what you get when you got ones. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I know people, I don't know how. You know, I

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Speaker 2: missed it last week because we had a baseball tournament

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Speaker 2: and I'm curious to see how people think about the tour,

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Speaker 2: know they they missed the Cinderello at all, and I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think it's been a great tournament. In fact, with

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Speaker 2: this tournament, the basketball has been just very very good,

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Speaker 2: I've loved the tournament. I think all these teams deserve it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that to me because one of the things

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Speaker 3: I asked literally every person that I got in the

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Speaker 3: it was, you know, there's a conversation that Cinderella's are

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Speaker 3: What would you say to that? And that's I asked

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Speaker 3: what people want if they don't want to see the

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Speaker 3: four best teams. And I think there's so much value

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Speaker 3: to that, because, as I continually say to me, playoffs,

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Speaker 3: of these things are really best geared towards bringing casuals too.

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Speaker 3: different than the Final four, and it's because more people

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Speaker 3: I want for any sport that I love is for

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Speaker 3: if you're only gonna watch one or two college basketball

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Speaker 3: feed the narrative for so many people that there's only

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Speaker 3: a couple of good teams, right Like, because if you're

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Speaker 3: Like now, all of a sudden, you're like, yeah, as always,

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Speaker 3: Well that's not true at all. So to me, what

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Speaker 3: I think has to happen in your final four when

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Speaker 3: you get four ones. Anybody that that's the only game

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Speaker 3: it's good. I want to watch more of that. So

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Speaker 3: I think that's a win all the way across the board.

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Speaker 3: Plus I like a champion that's the best in the sport.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yeah, man, I'm completely with you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at these two games. Look at these

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Speaker 2: two These two games are incredible. All four teams, Florida, Auburn.

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Speaker 2: You know Florida gets bailed out a couple of times,

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Speaker 2: a performance. And then you got Jeni Broom, who's been

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Speaker 2: Jan I broom man. You know, he stole the hearts

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Speaker 2: the way he played the other night, by the way

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Speaker 2: you're there housed the shoulder.

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Speaker 3: All he would continually say is felt good yesterday, felt

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Speaker 3: good today, Go I feel even better tomorrow. That was

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Speaker 3: everybody kept asking me. He's just the same same answer.

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Speaker 3: So he's he's not giving us anything real on it.

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Speaker 2: And have you actually heard any anything of substance?

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Speaker 3: Not not, not really. And when I went to shoot

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Speaker 3: but yesterday the court was open to watch everybody just

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Speaker 3: We're all sort of waiting see mode. And I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Helly came out last week after the injury

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Speaker 2: you know, to be Florida, he needs to have both arms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you're here one thousand percent, right. But he

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Speaker 3: And I think it really hit me yesterday talking to

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Speaker 3: know Jenni Broom started at Morehead State, right, And he

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Speaker 3: there was no any of that. They were just they

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Speaker 3: think the Cinderellas that we need to focus on. Aren't

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Speaker 3: the teams, They're the players, like the players that in

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Speaker 3: any other environment of college basketball wouldn't be in this opportunity,

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Speaker 3: you know. And so for everyone that sits here and

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Speaker 3: bemoans the fact that transfer portal and name image likeness

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Speaker 3: is killing Cinderella's, I would argue it's not. It's turning

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Speaker 3: the Cinderellas into the individual stories instead of the Cinderellas

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Speaker 3: as the teams. Maybe, But to me, that's an that's

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Speaker 3: an amazing thing. Like if you're if you're a kid

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Speaker 3: you get to play your sport longer, and you get

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Speaker 3: done together and it can get you to a championship.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that the ultimate thing that we should want for

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Speaker 3: any kid that's playing life.

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Speaker 2: Dude, that's a great point. That's a fabulous point by you.

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Speaker 2: It's tremendous. You're right, you're spot on, man, Like that's

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Speaker 2: that's where you find your great stories and your rootable

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Speaker 2: interests is in these these kids who were forgotten to

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Speaker 2: overlook the whole thing. I'm under scouted. Yeah, I love it,

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Speaker 2: and and that's the whole thing. It's kind of what

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Speaker 2: I love about college sports too, is that from eighteen

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Speaker 2: to twenty two you grow so much, right, like you're

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Speaker 2: it's inexact. As much as we try to scout and

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Speaker 2: other part of me says Florida is due for one

429
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: of those games they put it together where they just

430
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: overwhelm you. They're due for that. You know, where did

431
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: they I'm trying to trying to remember where did they

432
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: play in the East Regional final? Where in the regional

433
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: not the East Duke was in the East Regional final?

434
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 2: Where did they play the regional final?

435
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: I already don't remember.

436
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 2: I can look it up, though, only because of the

437
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 2: Alamo Dome, because I'm curious if they played in the dome.

438
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: Somebody played in the dome.

439
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: Somebody played in the Dome last week. I think it

440
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: might have been Houston played in the Dome last week

441
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 3: because that's advantage. Yep, that there was. That was a

442
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: big question yesterday from a lot of reporters. And it's

443
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 3: funny how many times every player seemed to be rehearsed on.

444
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 3: You know, the floor is the same, the the you know,

445
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: the baskets or ten feet. You know, they gave you

446
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: all the cliches on it, and I kept looking at

447
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: it thinking I'm not I'm not buying those cliches like it.

448
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: It looks it's an adjustment. I mean, it all.

449
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: Looks like you're you're the horizon, the backdrop. That's the

450
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: issue when you're talking about shooting.

451
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, Houston won it Lucas Oil last last week. So

452
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: Houston was in the Indianapolis state right, so uh and

453
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: that's it came up a little bit because they were

454
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: asking LJ about it. And the first thing LJ. Crier

455
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: mentioned was that he doesn't think he shot particularly well

456
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 3: for a lot of this tournament. He's like, so, I

457
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 3: just got to get that right. But that has nothing

458
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: to do with the wear. I don't know, like y'all,

459
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: even when you walk and stand on the court, because

460
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: it's a it's a football stadium and it's an you know,

461
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 3: see they put an elevated basketball court in the middle

462
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 3: of it. Even walking on the edge of the court

463
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: just feels a little different, feels a little weird, you know,

464
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: because you're yeah, and and it's just all of it

465
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: looks different. And so I don't know, I wouldn't be

466
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: surprised at all to see it impact some shooting, you know,

467
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: and they just don't get enough work on it to

468
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: really make it. You get a couple of days. It's

469
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: not like they've been sitting here for a couple of weeks.

470
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: So I'm with you. I think it could be a

471
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: huge issue for shooting, especially early on for these teams

472
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: now in a game like Duke Houston, which I think

473
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 3: is going to be a bit of a you know,

474
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 3: rock fight, as you said, and I like the under

475
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: in a game like that, you can survive a cold

476
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: start if you're taking on if you're in that Florida

477
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: Auburn game, man, the one thing I don't want to

478
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: do is watch Florida get hotterly if Florida, if Florida

479
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: jumps out, I don't love.

480
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: That for Auburn, No, no, because if they eat That's

481
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: the truth. I don't know that Auburn can come back

482
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: like that. That's the thing I worry about with them

483
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: is that they seem to be more of a front

484
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: running horse in that sense.

485
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't. There are certain teams that

486
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: are built like I honestly believe Duke against most opponents

487
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: is built to Hey, they're down by ten in the

488
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: first half, doesn't matter. One thing we've learned in this

489
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: tournament is that don't even pay attention to the first

490
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 3: eight minutes of games, right, I mean again, I'll reference

491
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: the women's game I was watching last night where Texas

492
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: jumps out on South Carolina. At one point it was

493
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: like sixteen to four or something like it was. South

494
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: Carolina was getting murdered and you look up ten minutes

495
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: later in South Carolina. Stuff like that. That's just modern

496
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 3: college basketball. It feels like, you know, when they're feeling

497
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: each other out early on and taking some hits, the

498
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: better team is able to turn around and push their

499
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: way through that. So it's a little different when you're

500
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: taking on the defense like Houston's. And it's interesting to

501
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: talking to the Houston guys. Man, they were so passionate

502
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: about pace and I don't know if everybody saw this,

503
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: but there was a graphic that came out that showed

504
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: the average five minute mile time for Houston for the

505
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: for the entire basketball roster, and it was incredible as

506
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: five something. So their fastest player was like five minutes

507
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: and four second mile and their slowest player was like

508
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: five seventeen. So you know, they're they're incredibly fast. But

509
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: they talked a lot about how they practice at such

510
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: a pace. It's just there's a frenetic energy to the

511
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: way they play defense. That's why I think it's gonna

512
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: disrupt Duke. You know, so even in that game, I

513
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: don't think Duken can turn around from a massive deficit

514
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: and get their way through it. I think Houston's defense

515
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: is too good.

516
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: So I feel the same way. I think Houston's live

517
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: in this game, like really live. And I and I'm

518
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm a big I mean, I love that this Duke team,

519
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: I was saying earlier. I mean, I just admire them.

520
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed watching them from a basketball perspective, But I

521
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: think Houston's live. Man, you said it earlier. It's a

522
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 2: home game. Remember they had to go on the road.

523
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 2: They had to play Purdue in Indianapolis. Right, and so

524
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, you've got a home basically

525
00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: a home game, and their style didn't see anything like Houston.

526
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: And that's real. The only thing remember the Clemson game.

527
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: You and I were talking about it that the morning

528
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: of that game Clemson won. That's the closest thing they've

529
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: played to a team like Houston is Clemson and Houston's better.

530
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're right. This is where the funny the

531
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 3: hardest part of evaluation for Duke. How many times have

532
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 3: we said this, two things can be true. The acc

533
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: was garbage and Duke is a really good basketball team.

534
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: There is a level of you know, the battles. Now,

535
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: Duke absolutely just murdered Alabama like that was just that

536
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: was a clinic by Duke. But leading up to it,

537
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: even if you look at their their road, they took

538
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: on an okay Baylor team, they beat an Arizona team

539
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: that it's fine, and they did, they slaughtered Alabama. We

540
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: get way less proof of like a exactly who they

541
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: are through that process. Then we get through, for example,

542
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: either of the SEC teams that we know took a

543
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 3: long road, and Houston has throughout the course of this

544
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: entire season. The one thing Houston's been is just wildly consistent.

545
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: Like we talked earlier about the ebbs and flows of

546
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: a season that really hasn't impacted Houston. I feel like

547
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: they've been in many ways they've forgotten number one seed

548
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: like this is it's just because the sec stories were sexier,

549
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: and Duke is Duke. You know, you're talking about a

550
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: Houston team that I God, they lost four games all year.

551
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: It's just it's it's pretty incredible seeing how consistent this

552
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: Houston team has been from the outset of the season.

553
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: There is something to that that I trust and and

554
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: frank frankly that's important because they got they got some

555
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: old guys on there, Like there's definitely an experience versus

556
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: non experience factor to Houston versus Duke.

557
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think they're live. I really do. Did

558
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: you did people ask Cooper? Did they bring up that

559
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: scenario you and I were talking about, you know, if

560
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: you got is there any way he would stay if

561
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: you got that two hundred million dollars, you know, corporate deal.

562
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: I never heard it brought up and Cooper, you know,

563
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: and this is no discredit talk about it. Yeah, Yeah,

564
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: I mean well, and no discredit to this, not Cooper's

565
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: fault at all because the way the breakouts worked yesterday,

566
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: they had all the players in their own individual room,

567
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: but Cooper had won the AP Player of the Year,

568
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: so he was on the huge stage with Coach Shire

569
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: and they did a much different breakout. So in a

570
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: typical room, there's a table, like a six foot table,

571
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: and there's an NCAA representative sitting next to the player

572
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: for anyone that hasn't seen this, and there's maybe twenty

573
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: chairs in the room and camera set up anywhere, and

574
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: you could just walk in and out of any room

575
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: during their their media availability time. You raise your hand

576
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: when you get called on, you ask a question. It's

577
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: super simple because of the way Cooper's were done. Everything

578
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: was done like he did a split media availability with

579
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: Coach He did everything around the player of the year.

580
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: It just felt like it was tougher to get to

581
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: him and ask, you know, anything that didn't have to

582
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: do with being Player of the Year, basically because that

583
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: and that's what the focus should be yesterday, Like he's

584
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: you know, that's a once in a lifetime moment to

585
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: be the college basketball Player of the Year. So it

586
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: just made it a little harder to access Cooper, to

587
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: the point that I felt bad for some of the

588
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: kids because people were going into all the other rooms

589
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: to ask players about Cooper because it was tougher to

590
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: get to Cooper, you know, which is I hate that

591
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: for them all. Like, if you're you know, I mentioned

592
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: I was in the Continental room for a while. If

593
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: you're con and you're sitting there and this is your

594
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: glorious moment, people are like, so tell me about Cooper.

595
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: Like, I hate that for the kid, but they handled it.

596
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: It sucks because if the story, you know, obviously the

597
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: big story is going to be you know, the Player

598
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: of the Year, and so you're gonna want teammates reaction.

599
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's just how you craft your story. But

600
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: you know, it does feel like you're taking away from

601
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: their shine a little bit.

602
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no there's no great way to handle that,

603
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: and it's necessary from everybody's standpoint. And again, the do

604
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: kids wildly prepared for. It's just really like there is

605
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: a togetherness to these teams. Yeah, you know when you

606
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: talk about why they play and what they love about it,

607
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: and you know, the sport, these teams just have a

608
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: different energy and vibe together. There was a joyful playfulness

609
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: in the Yeah, we just love playing for each other.

610
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: Every college basketball team at this level says, you know,

611
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: we play for each other, not ourselves. But you could

612
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: genuinely feel that, you know, from and not just from Duke.

613
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 3: You can feel that kind of from like Florida had

614
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: the same vibe just everywhere. Houston had the same vibe everywhere.

615
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: I spent most of my Auburn time with J and I,

616
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: so I can't speak as much to the Auburn vibe

617
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: on it, but everybody else just seemed to have this.

618
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

619
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: You know, Hey, you want to ask me about my teammate.

620
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: I want to tell you about my teammate because my

621
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: teammate's amazing vibe and it was it was really selfless across.

622
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. Yeah, that's great stuff. All right. We have

623
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: to quick to Oh, I'm dying here, what you think

624
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: about all this twitch push stuff going on? Because I

625
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: you know, I got thoughts about that. Uh, Fitzy, all right,

626
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:31,920
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627
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634
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635
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: So you're going to go Florida Duke.

636
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go Florida Duke. All right, I think, Yeah,

637
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 3: I feel good about that. I feel you could see

638
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: how good I feel about that. Yeah, I'm gonna go

639
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: Florida Duke. I think these games are wildly close. So

640
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: especially that Florida Auburn game, I just wouldn't be surprised

641
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: at all to see that be a four point game

642
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: with four minutes left. It's just it's And so now

643
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 3: I got to ask myself, if it's a close game,

644
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: is there a team I trust more in a close

645
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 3: game in this entire tournament than Florida. No, because, as

646
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: you pointed out earlier, yeah, they're due to just go

647
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: rip somebody apart. But I'd also make the argument that

648
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 3: they get the opportunity to win a couple of close

649
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 3: tournament games when their biggest player is the best player

650
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: on the ball in the in the game. And Bruce Pearl,

651
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: Auburn coach, said yesterday, said, Walter Clayton Junior has won

652
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: these games because he's been the best point guard on

653
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: the floor. We have to make sure that Walter Clayton

654
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: Junior isn't the best point guard on the floor in

655
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 3: this game. I don't know how you do that. Like

656
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: he's he's he's that special through this tournament. So you know,

657
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: he's sort of the big shot Bob moment. So I

658
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: trust that.

659
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good, the big shot Bob. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

660
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: I think you're that's a great analogy. Yeah, I think

661
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: I want to go. I think I think Houston's gonna

662
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: pull the upsete.

663
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: Who man, do you know how electric the city would be? Like, Look,

664
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: I make no secrets of my hatred of Duke, but

665
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: this particular Duke.

666
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: Team impossible to hate.

667
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's exactly it. Like I no no team

668
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: in my life made me cry more than when Duke

669
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 3: beat UNLV as a.

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Speaker 2: Kid and they had hate the faces lighter right, like

671
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: light was hate the face throughout the years WOJE, like

672
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: they had to hate the face guys, not this team.

673
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. Like I sat there in the

674
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: room with Shire who talked, you know, and Cooper Flag's

675
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: family was right behind me, and just he was joking

676
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: with the family from the podium about, you know, whether

677
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: or not they would get tattoos if they won national championships,

678
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: And you know, it's just there was a a level

679
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: of just, I don't know, likability to all, Like Cooper,

680
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 3: Cooper is a really likable dude, like all the guys,

681
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 3: Like all the guys. I spent time talking to you yesterday.

682
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: I was like, man, just likable kids. This this is

683
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: a much different version of Duke, which is part of

684
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: why when people say this tournament is boring. I think

685
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 3: part of the reasons some people think it's boring is

686
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: because we like soap oppers more than we like actual basketball.

687
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: And if you're into soap opers, I'm not sure this

688
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: tournament's giving you the soap opera or your dreams. Like

689
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: this is like a reality TV show where everybody gets

690
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: together at dinner and likes each other. It's just that

691
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: it doesn't make for the same level of quality TV

692
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: when there isn't a villain on the show that you

693
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: can just decide you hate and that like Duke just

694
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: isn't that even if the brand is And I understand,

695
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: you know, many of us will hate Duke no matter what.

696
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: The actual the actual players, this actual team they're they're

697
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: they're easy to root for.

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00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Nah, No, that's spot on. Now. When I when I

699
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: say I think I'm picking Houston, it's because I just

700
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: think the styles. I don't think Duke has ever seen

701
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: this type of defensive team, and obviously they're well equipped

702
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: to handle anything. But when you haven't seen something, and

703
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: the Dome thing, I think there's a bunch of factors here.

704
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: I think people are sleeping on Houston a little bit.

705
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: I also think it's a Houston line.

706
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: The only thing is can Houston get I mean, they

707
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: have the depth to get a lot of scoring from

708
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: a lot of places. They're gonna need it. You just

709
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: I don't know that you can just let one guy

710
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: be the portion of this that carries you, you know,

711
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: So I think I think you're gonna need it. By

712
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: the way, I looked up that stat from earlier. The

713
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: average time that a Houston basketball player runs the runs

714
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: a mile is five minutes and nineteen seconds. So like

715
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: whenever everybody's watching, the fastest player on their team ran

716
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: in five minutes and seven seconds. Their slowest player, who

717
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: doesn't say the name. It's just as the measurement six nine,

718
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty pounds ran the mile in five

719
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: minutes and forty five seconds. Their slowest player runs a

720
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Speaker 3: mile in five forty five So when you and look,

721
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: that's just an arbitrary number. But I do think it

722
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: speaks to a couple of things when you watch Houston,

723
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: Like number one, they're not gonna get gassed. They have

724
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 3: twenty four hours of explosiveness, and they have the depth.

725
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: Number two, when you talk about closing speed and speed

726
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: down the court and not getting beat. Yeah, there's just

727
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: so many elements of speed that I think matter to

728
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: the way that they play defense. Particularly that's the swarming

729
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: thing that is just absolutely going to agitate the entire

730
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: Duke offense. I still like Duke in this game because

731
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: I tend to go, hey, best best player, I'll go

732
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: edge to the best player. But man, I think the

733
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: depth of Houston, the speed defensively of Houston is all

734
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: going to make this just the first ten minutes are

735
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: going to be a weird adjustment to me by both

736
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: of these teams.

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00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why I like them. I do. Hey, so,

738
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Speaker 2: what's the best thing you've done in San Antonio? Sleep?

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00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: No, I like, I haven't done like. Look, it's it's

740
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: we I just I got in late Wednesday or what

741
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: is today today? Saturday? I got in late Thursday night,

742
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: so yeah, and yesterday was a marathon of midday. So

743
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: it got a nice dinner at a local spot I'm sorry,

744
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 3: I don't remember the name, but near the Riverwalk last night.

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00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: And uh, and then I'll explore a little bit more

746
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: to you.

747
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 2: Allow yourself to eat something good. It's great food city.

748
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: I mean I had what I thought was good, a

749
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: steak bowl. But yeah, no, I'm still getting healthy. I'm

750
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: still eating healthy. I had egg whites and Denny's for breakfast.

751
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Speaker 2: Let's go all right. No cocktails, no cocktails, no cocktails,

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00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: damn God, bless you? All right? Uh, big hour coming

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Speaker 2: fellas talk a lot about obviously Final four Saturday and

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Speaker 2: breaking four teams down. Let's branch off a little bit

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Speaker 2: into the NFL. So who would have thought one play

765
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: would have would have just hijacked the Sports week? But

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00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: it did. The tush push, which I hate the name

767
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: that I don't somebody called it that a player and

768
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: then Tony Romo went with it, and I hate it.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather you called the brotherly shove. I'm not a

770
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: big fan of the tush, but the push.

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Speaker 3: It's never been a spot where Anthony Gargano is walking

772
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: around saying tush when he doesn't have to. Let's just

773
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: be honest, like brother lye shove. Like if you would

774
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: imagine the two of us in a room, anyone listening,

775
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: and you put these you put these two words up

776
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: on a marker board, and you ask which one of

777
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: us is more likely to say brotherly shove, and which

778
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: one of us is more likely to say touch push.

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00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: I think we all know that you're a brotherly shover

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00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: and I'm a tousch pusher. Like touch push is a

781
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: country music line dance. It's called the toush push like,

782
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: so you know, I'm used to the tooch pushes a

783
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: phrase like I'm in for touch push. I understand that

784
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: you're a brotherly shover, and I respect that you're a

785
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: brotherly shove. It's just it's a little like a teeter

786
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: totter versus the sea sawce same thing. It just depends

787
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 3: on where you grew up. If you're in Philly it's

788
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 3: a brotherly shove, or me it's a to push.

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00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great, it's awesome. Actually I love it. The

790
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: only thing too is is and yeah, I'm not a

791
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: big fan of the word tush. But also romo romo

792
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: romo is not cool. I'm sorry. All right?

793
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: Can you say somebody is not cool and follow it

794
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: with all due respect?

795
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

796
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: I think you can. You can.

797
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, it doesn't mean you're a

798
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: bad It doesn't mean that you're a bad analyst. Even

799
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: though I'm not the biggest fan. I just think he's

800
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: on cool man and I with him called I remember

801
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: that push toush push, and he says things over and

802
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: over again that aren't that clever. So I'm not the

803
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: biggest Tony Romo fan, and I so when he says

804
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: it makes me hate it even more. You know how

805
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 2: that works, right, Like here is always a messenger about something,

806
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: and if you don't like the messenger, I'm sure there's

807
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: people that hate me, right they go there this dude

808
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: right what he says, But it just is what it is.

809
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: I can't stand it. Whatever you want to call it.

810
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: It's hijack the league and it's splintered the league, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's going away. I mean, all reason why

812
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 2: they tabled it was till May is so they can

813
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: say they need to get enough votes to get rid

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Speaker 2: of it. And right now, I think I think Roger

815
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Speaker 2: Goodell hates the play. I think he thinks it's an

816
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: unsightly play. I think he thinks it's uh takes the

817
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: drama out of third and one and fourth and one.

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Speaker 2: And I do think it's unfair because I it's a

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00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: football play. It's not a rugby play. A rugby play no,

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Speaker 2: it's not. You see it when tight ends FITZI what

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Speaker 2: the Titan catch the ball in the flat and his

822
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Speaker 2: offensive line comes down and pushes them, and that pushed

823
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Speaker 2: the pile for a first down or into the end zone.

824
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: He sayed all the time.

825
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: Now, what you just touched on is my huge Like,

826
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Speaker 3: let me run around with the air horn and a

827
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Speaker 3: siren and tell every fan that that is anti tousch push.

828
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: Be careful what you wish for. Because I talked to

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Speaker 3: you know, Yahoo Sports. Joy Epstein is out at the

830
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Speaker 3: owner meetings, and when we were talking to try and

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Speaker 3: get ready for our show this week, she stressed what

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00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: she believes is going to happen in May is they're

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00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: probably going to revert to what the rule was in

834
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Speaker 3: the original interpretation of the rule, and that rule, for

835
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Speaker 3: anyone that doesn't know, essentially says you cannot push another

836
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: offensive player from behind to move them forward. Soh My

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00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: instant immediate question to everybody after we had that conversation was,

838
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Speaker 3: does that mean this play that we all love where

839
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 3: running back has been just stuck at the foreyard line

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00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you watch your offensive line

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00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: come running up and plow into that and push him

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00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 3: into the end or the very play that makes stadiums

843
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: go wild. If they revert this rule, as they're talking

844
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: about it, that plays now illegal. So it's not they're

845
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: not gonna come in and just make the tush push illegal.

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Speaker 3: What they're gonna do, at least according to the reporting

847
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 3: I've been told, if they do this, they're going to

848
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: make pushing an offensive player forward illegal because that's the

849
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: way the rule has been written in the past, and

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00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: that's the way it's been enforced in the past. So

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00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: that means that great play is gone. And so I'd

852
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: ask everybody, is that worth it to you? Is it

853
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: worth it when you see your favorite team and the

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00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: running backs got the ball and he's two yards short

855
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: and it's third and two and you're used to watching

856
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: the offensive line hammer into him and everybody falls forward

857
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: and here, huzza, we got the first down. That will

858
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: now be illegal. Are you good with that? Because I'm not.

859
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: I'm not good with that.

860
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: Huzza, Yeah, dude, I don't. And here's the thing I

861
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: get it's not I get it from Goodell's standpoint that

862
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: it takes drama out of it. It's almost like he

863
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: fears the analytics of it all. All right, so follow

864
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: me here. Let me make a case here for something

865
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: besides the fact that it's probably not aesthetically pleasing. But

866
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: the NBA has a three point problem, right the Celtics

867
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: set the single season record for three pointers, and the

868
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: three pointer problem is that it's just not fun basketball,

869
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: Like threes for twos make the game so one sided.

870
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: It takes away the beauty of the game. It takes

871
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: away mid range, it takes away a fast break, right

872
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: like there's a part of the game, like the three

873
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 2: is a part of it. But if it's all three,

874
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: it's it's not fun. Baseball had to deal with that

875
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: with the shift. And I think that Goodell sees this

876
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: and go, you know, everybody starts is going to get

877
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: good at it. Right now, the Eagles are the best

878
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: at it. And yeah, do I believe there's some sour grapes. Yeah,

879
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: I've talked to some people. Yeah, But I think the

880
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: Goodell is not about that. I think Goodell goes, yeah,

881
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: everybody starts getting good at it, and then all of

882
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: a sudden, third and fourth and one, it's it's no,

883
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 2: there's no drama. And then all of a sudden you go,

884
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: all right, well, third and three because the numbers of

885
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 2: conversion are skewed because the Eagles will running on third

886
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: down from like third and two and a half, third

887
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: and three and just to set up fourth and one.

888
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: Today you got two plays that are boring. I think

889
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: that's what he's afraid of most.

890
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I mean, I just am imagining what

891
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 3: do we say all the time with players. Part of

892
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: the reason the franchise tag is never going to be

893
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 3: eliminated is because it only impacts thirty two players. So

894
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: in a collective bargaining situation, when you have thousands of

895
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: football players, why are the rest of them going to

896
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: worry about this one thing the owners want? But it

897
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: only impacts thirty two of them? Like, who cares? What's

898
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: interesting to me is now I apply sort of the

899
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: same mindset to the NFL. There are two teams that

900
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: really run the brotherly shove, tush push, the brotherly push.

901
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: There's only two teams that run it the way that

902
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: we're accustomed to seeing with success. One is Buffalo and

903
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 3: the other is Philadelphia. Famously, the two of them ran

904
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 3: the tush push or some design of the tush push

905
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: more than the rest of the league combined. Okay, so

906
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: my thing number one is you don't change a rule

907
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 3: for something two teams are doing. And frankly, one of

908
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 3: those two teams, Buffalo, couldn't run it with enough success

909
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: to get the first down that they needed in the playoffs.

910
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: We all saw it. So like, essentially, you're asking thirty

911
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: one owners to turn around and say, well that one

912
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: owner over there has figured something else out that gives

913
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: him an advantage, and everybody changes the rule of me

914
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 3: that eighteen twenty twenty two teams are turning around running

915
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: the touch push. Now all of a sudden, now we

916
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: have an extra point issue. The extra point is too easy.

917
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: We're going to move the extra point back. I understand

918
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 3: that completely. If something has become so convertible that it

919
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: is simply no longer worth having in the game, then

920
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: change it. Okay, I'm okay with that. We're not talking

921
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: about that. We're talking about really one, maybe one and

922
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 3: a half teams out of thirty two to do this effectively.

923
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how long until? How long until you figure

924
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: it out? I mean, my I don't how long UNTI

925
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: all the teams can listen.

926
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: I really thought this year, but I thought this year

927
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: would be that year. I thought we'd see this year

928
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: everybody around the league doing it and nobody.

929
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: Well, there's been more more than you know, there was

930
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 2: more this year than there were in years past.

931
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: But it hasn't become this prevalent problem everywhere. You know.

932
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's sticking. I think he's trying to

933
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: get ahead of it. Listen, I'm I'm for it all

934
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: right because it's my team. And I do think that

935
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: there's some anti Eagles stuff going about it. I think

936
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: that's part of it, But ultimately I don't think it's

937
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: part of it from the commissioner. I think from the

938
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: commissioner standpoint, I think that analytic thing, you know, the

939
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 2: three point example and the shift example in baseball, I

940
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 2: think that's real. I think you could see it because

941
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: think about it fitsie. All you got to do is

942
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: not study it and any implement it. No, I don't

943
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: know if they're gonna be able to run as good

944
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: as the Eagles, but if you start to get a

945
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: feel for it and run it correctly, your success rate

946
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: will be higher than that of a quarterback sneak.

947
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 3: And if we get to that point, I'm on this one.

948
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: I'm a big believer of solve it when it's an issue,

949
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: Like because the other hardbar that I have is that

950
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 3: so much of the coaching conversation out of the owners

951
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: meeting was, well, we're worried about injuries on this play.

952
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 3: There's absolutely no data yet that shows that there's any

953
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: increase in injuries from the touch push, so you're worried

954
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 3: about the potential of injury. I guess my question to

955
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: that is, what's the injury data on full back you know, dive,

956
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 3: what's the what's the injury data on quarterback sneak? Or

957
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 3: we just gonna eliminate all those sorts of line of

958
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 3: scrimmage plays because exactly like that, that doesn't seem to

959
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 3: make any sense to me.

960
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 2: Well, listen, they don't like to play. They don't like

961
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: the fact that one team's mastered it. They don't like

962
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 2: the fact that it's unsightly. They don't like to play,

963
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: and so they set up the strong man argument of

964
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: player safety, like you have to be a troglodyte to

965
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: be against player safety. You otherwise you're from Philadelphia, right,

966
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: Like if you're if you're not against player safety, you're

967
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: from Philadelphia.

968
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: I just I laugh at that though, though, because how

969
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 3: can we genuinely have a conversation about player safety and

970
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 3: then also turn around and know that we're having conversations

971
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 3: about adding an eighteenth game.

972
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: Like I just okay, And you need the kickoff right,

973
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 2: like you want to stimulate more kickoff returns? What about

974
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: player safety? Kickoffs are has always been a dangerous play.

975
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 3: I mean you're not wrong, Like it's just get rid

976
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: of the kickoff, give everybody the ball at the twenty.

977
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: I mean that's the apossible. And the other thing too

978
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: is and and not to be crash and not to

979
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: be against player safety obviously, but it is football. It's

980
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 2: a degree of physicality. I know, you know it can

981
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: make a squeamish at times, but it's football, player flag.

982
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 3: Player safety at its core is something that that fans

983
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: and the league love to talk about, and it's a

984
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: great thing to talk about, to feel good about. It's

985
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: a little bit like talking about making a charitable difference

986
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: but not doing anything to actually do it.

987
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: You're very spot on.

988
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: And look I I got into a heated argument with

989
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: the player years ago when I first started former player

990
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: years ago when I first started in media, and I

991
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 3: said on air that as tragic as it is. If

992
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: a player died during the middle of a game, in

993
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 3: about three days, we would turn around and say, okay,

994
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: well what's next for the team. And the player did

995
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: not appreciate my sentiment, thought that I was an idiot.

996
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: It made it clear, and we got into it pretty heated.

997
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: I only say that because I was on air every

998
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 3: single day at ESPN at the time when a player

999
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 3: almost died on the field, and we were two days

1000
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 3: removed from that incident, and we didn't know what to do, y'all, Like,

1001
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: we didn't know on the on the air how to

1002
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 3: talk about it or how to talk about football, Like

1003
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 3: how do you how do you even have it? Like

1004
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: after tomorrow handling went down, how do you even have

1005
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 3: a football conversation? We had no idea how to handle it.

1006
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 3: And we were two days removed from the incident when

1007
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 3: the bosses came in and said, hey, we got to

1008
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 3: find a way to start talking about football. There's games,

1009
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: so just move to the games and focus on the games.

1010
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: And like, I don't know what else I can say

1011
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 3: to anybody other than a player almost died on the field.

1012
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: And we still played games that weekend, and we still

1013
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: went out there and we still root like we had

1014
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 3: a moment of silence, and everybody acted super concerned. But

1015
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 3: if for being real for a minute, God forbid that

1016
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: where to ever happen. People talk about player safety, but

1017
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 3: not in the way that they'd actually want to have

1018
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 3: to miss one of their favorite teams games like, player

1019
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: safety is something that feels cool to say you're behind,

1020
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: and very little actual action happens from the fans, the owners,

1021
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 3: even from the players themselves to actually do anything about it.

1022
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: They're all gonna chase the money and we're all gonna

1023
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: watch the product no matter what happens. Sound cynical, but

1024
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: I'm just.

1025
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: No, it's right. You're you're you're one hundred percent right,

1026
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 2: because here's the thing. Listen, Intelligent people can hold conflict,

1027
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: conflicting thoughts and emotions in the palm of their hand.

1028
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: They can you can be conflicted. We love football, right,

1029
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with loving football. Football is inherently a

1030
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: dangerous game and horrible tragedies can happen from it. It

1031
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you don't love football. It doesn't mean you're

1032
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 2: not caring about people and the players and the individuals

1033
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 2: who play this game. Because of course the reason why

1034
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: we love you know, we love to watch our players.

1035
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 2: Replacement players, they tried it, it doesn't work. The great

1036
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: players that we have a we grow accustomed to watch

1037
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 2: every season in the end season out right, Like Julio

1038
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: Jones is retiring, We're gonna miss Julio, who's a great player.

1039
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: And we love these guys and we care about there.

1040
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: And you know, every football fan, I believe to a

1041
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: person would say that they hope that they live long

1042
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 2: and healthy lives. Right that the game doesn't catch up

1043
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: to them in a horrible way. But it is dangerous

1044
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: and it's a part of the territory. And we it

1045
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: doesn't mean we don't love it any less, right, So

1046
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: you can hold the conflict thoughts. At the same time.

1047
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 3: I want you to go back and take that quote

1048
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 3: that you had. Intelligent people can hold conflicting few points

1049
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 3: in the palm of their hands. I'm paraphrasing. You should

1050
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: just that that should be put on t shirts, that

1051
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: should be put on hats, that should be like the

1052
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: whole world should start to understand that constantly count like that.

1053
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 3: That might be the smartest thing I've ever heard you say.

1054
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 3: Just f y above me, on football, like that's a

1055
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 3: lifeism that that has touched me.

1056
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: That is beautiful, Thank you brother. No, and it's it's

1057
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 2: just what it is, what it is when it comes

1058
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: to when you applied to football, you know, I mean

1059
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 2: our hearts go out like to those guys, especially now

1060
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: your career took you in this path and you got

1061
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: to work with these people and you get to know

1062
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 2: these people, and you know you really care about them.

1063
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: You care about them. You love the game, you love

1064
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: we love sports. We've made sports our vocation and and

1065
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: you love it and you don't want to see any

1066
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 2: tragedy happen to anyone. And you know, I mean unfortunately

1067
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Speaker 2: that that nature that game is brutal. It's brutal sport.

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00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 2: And I do think now they did it for because

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00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: of the re litigious reasons, so it wasn't you know,

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00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: they did it out of honor. But the byproduct is

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00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: the game is a much safer than it used to be.

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00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you go back and hear those

1073
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: horror stories from the you know, from the sixties and seventies,

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00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: what they would do to each other. Yeah, so I

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00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: don't know, I think it's going away, buddy.

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00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think it's going away. I

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00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: don't think it should. And I think I think it's

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00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: all broken. Like I think, I think the places stay.

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00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: That's all I'm to say. I think the place say.

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00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: I also, we can get into this later. I also

1081
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: think they absolutely put butchered overtime. Yet again, I've solved overtime.

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00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: Roger called me, I have a solution.

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00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: Well, you know what. Hold the thought because I agree

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00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: with you. I want you to let try it out.

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Speaker 2: Your plan all right, I need the Fitzie plan. I

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Speaker 2: also want to talk about oh Vechkin at some point,

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Speaker 2: because what a story that is. He's fun He's funny.

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Speaker 2: You're a big hockey guy. Where the fella is? Jason

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Speaker 2: curious to see what you think over time? Now ten

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00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: minutes both teams can have to get the ball, except

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Speaker 2: the ten minute is it? And if you bleed the clock,

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00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: you bleed the clock. Your thoughts, what's the Fitsy plan?

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Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost, as I always say to you,

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01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 3: this just delays the inevitable, just like it does in

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01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 3: the playoffs. So the scenario I give everybody is that

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01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: you know in the opening play of the AFC Championship game.

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01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 3: In overtime, Patrick Mahomes throws a sixty five yard touchdown pass.

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01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 3: On the second play of overtime, Josh Allen matches him

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01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: with the sixty five yard touchdown pass. We're getting the

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Speaker 3: greatest game in history. That's the only way you could

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Speaker 3: double overtime of these things and then all of a

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01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 3: sudden now were sudden death, and that's just going to lead.

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Speaker 3: Like you talked earlier about Roger Goodell trying to sit

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Speaker 3: here and figure out what's going to become an issue

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Speaker 3: to me. If you're going to change overtime, you got

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01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: to look at it and say, what's the worst way

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01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 3: this overtime could play out? And that's it, Like we

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01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: suddenly end up, how did you not give Josh Allen

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01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 3: the ball again? Like we're just we're delaying the inevitable

1130
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 3: yelling and screaming that will happen. So I figured it out.

1131
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 3: It took a little bit of time to figure this

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01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 3: out because equity is a big part of what everybody

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: talks about. Now they've already sort of blown that by

1134
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 3: having a ten minute because what happens if the Chiefs

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01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 3: get the ball and hold it for nine minutes and

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01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 3: fifty eight seconds. So that's a risk. I have figured

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01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 3: out the equitable way that is fair for everybody, but

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01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 3: also immediately gives you different strategy to overtime. So there

1139
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 3: is no kickoff in overtime. You get the ball at

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01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 3: the thirty five yard line the new touchback. So in

1141
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 3: this scenario, Patrick Mahomes gets the ball with the Chiefs

1142
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 3: all right, he starts the ball. It's a running clock

1143
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: moving up at this point. So however long it takes

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01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 3: the Chiefs to score, Let's say they have a drive

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01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 3: that takes seven minutes and fifty two seconds. Whatever that

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01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: drive results in score wise, Now Josh Allen gets the

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01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: ball at his thirty five yard line and that's his

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01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 3: time left to beat or match that score. So if

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01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 3: the Chiefs get a touchdown in seven minutes and fifteen seconds,

1150
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: Josh Allen gets the ball with seven minutes and fifteen

1151
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 3: seconds on the clock that's now running down. He has

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01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 3: to beat or match that touchdown. If he does it

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01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: faster than the Chiefs did it, then the Bills win.

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01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: If he doesn't get it done in that amount of time,

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01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: then the Bills lose. That it's the single equitable. It

1156
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: puts pressure on the team that gets the ball to

1157
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 3: score as quickly as possible. Now, if they score on

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01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 3: the first play and they score in twelve seconds, oh well,

1159
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 3: your defense just puts your offense in a really bad situation.

1160
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 3: But your offense at least gets the hail Mary to match.

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01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 3: So it gives both teams the ball. It gives everybody

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01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 3: the opportunity, and the timing is set by whoever scores first,

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Speaker 3: and you just keep doing that until you have a winner.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I don't like, and I applaud you

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01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: for your creativity, the time element. The time should be

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Speaker 2: irrelevant in the.

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Speaker 3: Well, but that's the only way to make it to

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01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 3: prevent going like the college football you get.

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Speaker 2: I No, I mean I don't see with your thirty

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01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: five yard line thing. I think you either gotta you

1171
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: gotta go jump in and do it like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah see, oh you're like give I'm saying you start

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01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 3: at your own thirty five like a touchdoup.

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01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: And touch by now, I mean, like, so you know

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01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: it's hard to matriculate thirty five, you know, to score

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01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: a touchdown from your own thirty five? Yeah, so you

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Speaker 2: know I mean, I can't either do it just person yeah,

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01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 2: and go from there without the time. Thing throws me it.

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01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: It feels a little gimmicky. It is.

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Speaker 3: It is a little gimmicky. Uh, there's no doubt about it.

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01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 3: I just felt like that was the most reasonable way

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 3: to ensure possession and also urgency on the first possession.

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01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 3: You know, so because if you're you know, if you're

1184
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 3: getting the ball, which you you if it takes you

1185
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 3: nine minutes to score a field goal, well that you

1186
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 3: put yourself in a bad situation because now the Bills

1187
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 3: are going to get the ball and all they have

1188
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: to do is get a field goal in less.

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Speaker 2: Than Some teams aren't built for quick strikes, right, Like

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01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: some teams are built to methodically go down the field.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I mean I would have no problem. Like

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01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: if the solution was, you know, give it, give everybody

1193
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 3: the ball at their touch back level and give them

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01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 3: the whole field to go and just keep bouncing drive

1195
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 3: to drive to drive, I had no problem with that either.

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01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: It's just that could end up being a little bit

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01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 3: longer depending on how the game plays out. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with that solution either. Like, as

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01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 3: long as it's never the college version of it, you know,

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01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 3: gimmicky to me would be going to penalty kicks, which

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01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 3: I still don't hate. In the regular season, I don't

1202
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: really care, Like just you know, put your kicker out

1203
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 3: there and back them up five yards after every kick

1204
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 3: they make and see which kicker can actually win that. Now,

1205
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 3: that would increase the level of give a damn that

1206
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: we all have about our favorite team's field goal kicker

1207
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 3: for sure. So you know, like.

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Speaker 2: That that would be horrible.

1209
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 3: I said, so the football lover of me thinks it's horrible.

1210
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 3: But then I apply it to the fact that, like

1211
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 3: I actually love shootouts in NHL games, Like I think

1212
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 3: they're dynamic. You know, I don't want my Stanley Cup

1213
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: final decided that way. I do like them. And then like,

1214
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 3: as somebody that doesn't really care about soccer, you get

1215
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: any sort of a shootout opportunity in soccer, God, I

1216
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 3: think that's electric, Like everybody's glued to the TV. So

1217
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 3: there's a like, as a lover of football, I don't

1218
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 3: love it, but as a casual to soccer, I love

1219
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: it in soccer. So that's where my mindset says, like, hey,

1220
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 3: you know, obviously we're used to it in other sports,

1221
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 3: and you know, we like it there.

1222
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you you don't like the shoot up in

1223
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: hockey like you just said it. I mean, you wouldn't

1224
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 2: want your playoffs to be decided like that because the

1225
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 2: incredible I don't know if you remember this game. Oh

1226
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: my god, what year was it. It's going back. It

1227
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: was Flyers and Penguins. It was a five overtime game

1228
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: in the playoffs.

1229
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 3: I remember, I thought it was Capitals. I remember Caps

1230
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: Penguins game that was probably ninety five, ninety six in

1231
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 3: that era. That was wild, like it was like it was.

1232
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 3: I thought it was around five overtime, So maybe I

1233
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 3: have the wrong team. I remember. I remember sitting in

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01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 3: at the time, I was in Chicago and doing something.

1235
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 3: I remember sitting there watching a game against the pay

1236
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 3: I thought it was Caps Penguins that I remember, But.

1237
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the never Flyers Penguins overtime game that went five

1238
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: overtimes and it was it was outrageous. I was in

1239
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: a bar watching the game and the bar they had

1240
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 2: to close. It was two o'clock and it was it.

1241
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 2: And the owner said, well, because everybody's watching the game, HEAs,

1242
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to lock the door, and if you need

1243
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 2: to get out, just let me know. But I'm going

1244
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: to lock the door and let you guys watch the game,

1245
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: right and so, and then I talked to I think

1246
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 2: Keith Primo scored the game winner. I'm not gonna look

1247
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: it up, but I was talking to some of the

1248
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: players afterwards, and like they ran out of food like

1249
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 2: they were they ran out of fuel, like they were

1250
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 2: ordering pizzas and it was crazy and eat everything in sight.

1251
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 2: Five overtimes in hockey's ridiculous and play eight periods of

1252
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: it was it was unbelievable. But like I bring it

1253
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: up only to say, that's playoff hockey, like it goes

1254
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: until it goes, you know.

1255
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 3: Yes, And I totally agree, like I so I looked

1256
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 3: at up. The game I was thinking of was a

1257
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 3: four overtime thriller with the Penguins and the Capitals. Uh

1258
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 3: crazy that you know, Google can tell you anything now,

1259
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: but so not quite as long. I remember that so vividly.

1260
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: But I think most casuals would would prefer the shootout,

1261
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 3: if we're being honest, like, if you don't really yeah,

1262
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 3: like I think like if you're if you just sort

1263
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: of watch hockey here and there the shootouts the most

1264
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 3: electric play you can get. So if you've got a

1265
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: bunch of people lining up, it's not.

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01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: The sport, it's what I mean, skill competition. It's horrible.

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01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 3: It's same same thing that that you know, soccer peers

1268
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: say if you're in the World Cup and you suddenly

1269
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: get a shootout, you know, it's like, my god, that's nothing.

1270
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 3: I see. I love it, like when I see it

1271
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 3: in soccer, I'm glued to it. I love it.

1272
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: So you know, it's it's it's too easy.

1273
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 3: But it's I mean, essentially, the the hockey version of

1274
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 3: this is you're giving me breakaway after breakaway after breakaway.

1275
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 3: Now you know that's that's that's an electric plays. All

1276
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 3: of that's far more exciting, by the way, than watching,

1277
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 3: you know, just a mid kicker suddenly line up from

1278
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: forty five yards and miss it like that is not

1279
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 3: watching people kick field goals is not nearly as exciting

1280
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 3: as anything that happens in a shootout for sure.

1281
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I get the I get the

1282
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 2: uh the break the breakaway thing, and here it is

1283
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 2: to May fourth, two thousand, historic five overtime game.

1284
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 3: That's wild.

1285
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's unreal. Imagine that.

1286
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 3: I can't imagine being in the stands for that, Like

1287
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: you have to just get exhausted.

1288
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 2: At some point, the game stretch for record breaking five

1289
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 2: overtime peer periods, becoming the longest game in NHL history,

1290
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 2: with a total gain time of one hundred and fifty

1291
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 2: two minutes and one second. Man, that's wild.

1292
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 3: I don't even know, Like, yeah, like I always think

1293
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 3: of the kids that are in a game like that,

1294
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 3: like you started in a normal time, going to a

1295
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: game like the morning, yep, I can't.

1296
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: But like that's special, Like every once in a while

1297
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 2: you need something like that. It's special, it's cool, it's

1298
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: something memorable. I don't know. That's why I don't like gimmicks.

1299
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: I never like gimmicks. That's what the soccer thing, you know,

1300
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't get it. The golden goal. What's

1301
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: wrong with the golden goal?

1302
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 3: I think at some point for each of these sports,

1303
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 3: it's just a question of what happens if the game

1304
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 3: goes on and on and on, And I don't always

1305
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 3: have a great answer for that, you know, and I

1306
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 3: certainly understand that you don't want a football game to

1307
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 3: go into four overtimes. I just I also think that

1308
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 3: I frankly, let me say loudly, I had no problem

1309
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 3: with sudden death. I have no problem with sudden death.

1310
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: Once you get into the we are going to guarantee

1311
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 3: possessions for both sides. Once that becomes something you do.

1312
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 3: My question is why are you not doing that for

1313
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 3: every single opportunity in the Because all you're doing is

1314
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 3: delaying the inevitable worst case scenario. And if we're going

1315
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: to argue that all of this was changed because of

1316
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 3: an epic ending in the AFC Championship game, and I

1317
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 3: think we all understand that. You know, if if Josh

1318
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 3: Allen gets the ball back, then we're not having this

1319
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 3: conversation today.

1320
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: Likely.

1321
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 3: The only counter I make to that is that the

1322
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: single greatest NFL game of all time would end in

1323
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 3: controversy if we went into an AFC Championship game and

1324
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 3: we had Mahomes get the ball, Alan get the ball,

1325
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 3: and then Mahomes got the ball again and Alan didn't

1326
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 3: get to touch it. And this is where people will say, well,

1327
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 3: you just call a play defense. Okay, that's your argument,

1328
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 3: Then why do we have matching possessions anyway? Like if

1329
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 3: you just have to play defense. At some point, the

1330
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: defense is to step up. You're right, You're right always. Yeah,

1331
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 3: It just that bothers me and people.

1332
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: Why to your point, it should be you know, the

1333
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 2: thirty five yard line thing, Go go, go sixty five

1334
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 2: yards you can do it. Everybody gets shot. If you

1335
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 2: both teams do it, then you're at it again two

1336
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: or later. You know somebody's going to get a stop.

1337
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 2: I mean it's sixty five yards.

1338
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're a thousand or so. Like, I don't

1339
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 3: see a lot of those ending in Like, I don't

1340
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 3: see a lot of touchdown touchdown, touchdown, touchdout out of

1341
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 3: that doesn't make a lot of sense at all. So

1342
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely right.

1343
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 2: I mean, if you if you want to do it

1344
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: in the second time you have to go for two,

1345
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: then you know you can always do that too.

1346
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 3: Oh, I would get rid of extra points completely in

1347
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 3: over to make everything a two point commercial that that

1348
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 3: increases the chance that you're going to have a definitive

1349
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 3: ending to the game, you know, because the chance is

1350
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 3: getting a touchdown and a two point conversion, you know,

1351
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 3: matched over and over and over again. Seems unlikely to me.

1352
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm down with that. I think it's cool, all right,

1353
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: let's say quick to you. So, I'm curious what you

1354
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: think about Shadoor Shador had his pro day yesterday. My

1355
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 2: man Baldy was out there for it. We'll discuss that

1356
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 2: a little bit coming up. Fellas hanging out every Saturday,

1357
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 2: Jason Fits Anthony gargantto Fox Sports Radio. Fellas Jason Fits

1358
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: Anthony gargantto hanging Out with You from the tire rack

1359
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. Now you are you treat your body

1360
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: like a temple. You are. You're a man that if

1361
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 2: God bless you what you've done. I admire you so much,

1362
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: how you've transformed yourself. I have a I have a question,

1363
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: would you now in your in your other days, like

1364
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure you had your your moments right where you

1365
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: would do your pig out sessions.

1366
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 3: I can out eat anybody. I can out eat a

1367
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 3: fat guy. Yeah, let's go.

1368
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there's been there's times when you know we

1369
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 2: did that, all right. So my buddy I work with

1370
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 2: during the week had one of those nights. It was

1371
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 2: the home opener for the Phillies and he had a

1372
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 2: long night of party. He gets home and he orders

1373
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:47,839
Speaker 2: a pizza and on this pizza. Well, it was a custom.

1374
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: He orders his custom pizza. Now for me, it's completely

1375
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 2: garbage throw up, right, But I'm curious that what you

1376
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: if you would ever order this, and what you think

1377
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: because I'm I'm the I'm a pizza purists, all right.

1378
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: So he orders tomato basil, tomato fresh mozzarell. Okay, he

1379
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: orders pineapple, onion mushroom. He orders a ranch drizzle banana peppers. Wait,

1380
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: there's four other drizzle drizzles. Uh. Yes, I didn't even

1381
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 2: understand that a wing kind of sauce. I mean, this

1382
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: thing was an abomination. And I've never heard of a drizzle.

1383
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 2: Maybe you have. I guess you haven't because you just

1384
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: said drizzles on a pizza. Yeah, I never heard of

1385
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: a drizzle on a pizza. First of all, I I

1386
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 2: would that I would close that place down.

1387
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, like we agree that that the uh

1388
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe not one hundred percent, but we do

1389
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 3: agree here that the best pizza doesn't need a bunch

1390
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 3: of stuff.

1391
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: Right.

1392
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 3: So, like, for me, if you're asking me right now,

1393
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 3: because pizza is one of the single greatest foods of

1394
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 3: all time, if you're asking me right now, if I

1395
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 3: could house a pizza and I could pick anything on it.

1396
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 3: I am the guy when at parties when they're like, oh,

1397
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 3: we're getting pizza, what do you want cheese? Just like

1398
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 3: good pizza does not need your toppings. It just needs cheese, right,

1399
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 3: Like that's all. I don't need a lot of the

1400
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 3: other things. Now I will eat the other things. Like

1401
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 3: I don't mind pineapple on a pizza here and there,

1402
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 3: Like it's if that's what you've ordered, I'm it wouldn't

1403
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 3: be my choice. I'll still eat it, I'll still enjoy it.

1404
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 3: It won't be as good as the cheese pizza. My

1405
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 3: problem with your buddy. And then by the way, they're drizzle,

1406
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 3: Like good pizza does not need ranch. If your pizza

1407
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 3: needs ranch, then improve your pizza. But if you're once

1408
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 3: you start to get to where you're minding pineapple, you

1409
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 3: said with onions, and like, I also don't mind veggies

1410
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 3: on pizza. That's fine. If you've gone that route, I

1411
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 3: will go that. But there's a there's this I don't

1412
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 3: know clash happening here, palate clash happening when you go

1413
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 3: to sweetness of pineapple with ranch and then onion and

1414
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 3: like bitter things on it too, so like that that's

1415
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 3: a little surprising to me. I don't I don't think

1416
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 3: it makes a ton of sense. Like, basically, your buddy

1417
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 3: just ordered everything that was left over in the kitchen

1418
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 3: and it happens to be on top of pizza.

1419
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 2: Cruss.

1420
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like a pizza to me.

1421
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:36,520
Speaker 2: It's not. It's not a it's it's garbage. It's drizzles

1422
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 2: and pineapples and banana peppers and onions. It's crazy. And

1423
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 2: you know, my friend of mine and he's you know,

1424
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,520
Speaker 2: he's Dan, a stoner, right, so he you know him.

1425
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: You can only imagine it was outrage and delicious and

1426
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: he did it just didn't annoy me, but he showed

1427
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: me the picture of it. I mean it looked, it

1428
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 2: looked wretched. And I'm not a prude, man, I go.

1429
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 2: I love my late night you know my late night

1430
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 2: figures is I'll you know, I haven't done it in

1431
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 2: a while, but you know, good night out and you know,

1432
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 2: let's go. I'm in for some late night anything. You

1433
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: just can't treat pizza like that.

1434
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 3: No, like look, and it's somebody that by the time

1435
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 3: we hit to late night, I've probably had multiple edibles, like, look,

1436
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 3: I'm all in on the I'm hungry and I want

1437
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 3: to snack on a pizza. I've learned to not do

1438
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 3: that on this journey. But like, if I'm ordering a

1439
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,799
Speaker 3: pizza like this is where for me, especially if somebody

1440
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 3: else is ordering the pizza, then whatever you want on it,

1441
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 3: I will eat. So if you're like the meat lover's guy,

1442
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 3: that's fine. If you're the veggie lover, that's fine. If

1443
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 3: you're just breeding that wants all of that, that's fine.

1444
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 3: It's a little busy for me, but you know that's

1445
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 3: fine whatever you want. I'm not going to complain it's pizza.

1446
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,759
Speaker 3: If I'm ordering, then like it's only going to be cheese,

1447
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 3: like even when people are like, well, mix it up

1448
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 3: and do like a mo rtarada pizza. Like I eat

1449
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 3: pizza so so seldomly. Now if I'm gonna get it,

1450
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 3: I want it to be exactly what. So I want

1451
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 3: New York style pizza from a very good place, and

1452
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 3: I wanted to have cheese on it, and just cheese.

1453
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. You want it and you want it

1454
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 2: a little well done? Right?

1455
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, little Krispy. It's gotta be like it's

1456
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 3: got to be a little chrispy. It's gotta have like

1457
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 3: enough fold ability but also crunch to it that like

1458
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 3: there's a thing there I'm not. I I also want

1459
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 3: a place that I know is close enough that it

1460
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 3: delivers fresh, because I don't want it to have sat

1461
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 3: in the box for forty five minutes by the time

1462
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 3: I get it. Like, I would rather go pick it

1463
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 3: up if I have to, although if I'm a couple

1464
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 3: of edibles in I can't. But if I like, I

1465
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 3: am much more likely to on the way home. If

1466
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 3: I at this stage in life, if I'm gonna have pizza,

1467
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to one of the really good spots

1468
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 3: in Connecticut.

1469
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 2: On the way we live these to Heaven.

1470
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, like exactly.

1471
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: New Heaven for pizza.

1472
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna stop somewhere on the way home and

1473
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 3: get the pizza, and then when I get home, just

1474
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 3: I'll have a piece while I take the edibles, and

1475
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 3: then then I'm good to go and like miss me

1476
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 3: with the you know, I don't need cold pizza. All

1477
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 3: those things like No, I wanted to be hot, I

1478
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 3: wanted to be perfect, I wanted to be cheese. I

1479
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 3: wanted to be big. I want it to be crispy

1480
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 3: New York style, like it's it's a it's a thing.

1481
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 3: I don't understand all the like, you know, no judgment,

1482
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 3: but I'm just not putting that many things a lot

1483
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 3: of judgment. Actually, I'm not putting that many things on

1484
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 3: my pizza.

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Speaker 2: No, pizza's not meant to do that, all right. I

1486
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Speaker 2: was in Naples, right the home the creator of pizza,

1487
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Speaker 2: and you know, they're like, forget about are you? You

1488
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 2: don't mess with it. They take it personal. They give

1489
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Speaker 2: personal pizza. They they scoff at what the Americans do

1490
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Speaker 2: the pizza that their creation. And I don't play them.

1491
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Speaker 2: all right, Fitzi. Schador had his pro day yesterday and

1501
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 2: in fact, the Travis Hunter ransom routes for Shador. His

1502
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: response afterwards, You'll be a fool not to pick me.

1503
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1504
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 3: I think yesterday was another data point, and it's interesting

1505
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 3: to me how many teams are still collecting data points

1506
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 3: that you know, we'll try and make him move one

1507
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 3: way or the other. But look, as much as we're

1508
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 3: talking about Shador, I was watching NFL Live yesterday and

1509
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 3: Field Yates, who I consider a very close friend in

1510
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 3: my life and is the least hot, taky person I

1511
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 3: think I've ever met. Like Field is the type of

1512
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 3: person that if you came in and said, the only

1513
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 3: pizza that is good as cheese pizza, even if Field

1514
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 3: hated cheese pizza, Field would look at you and say, man,

1515
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 3: if that makes you happy, I think that's the perfect

1516
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 3: answer for you. Like Field is never going to He's

1517
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 3: just not. And he even said yesterday on NFL I

1518
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 3: I don't want to be hyperbolic, but what he said

1519
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 3: I thought was stunning because as much as we love Shadoor,

1520
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 3: Field said yesterday I had not yet seen Travis Hunter

1521
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 3: in person, and I can now say, after seeing him

1522
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 3: in person, I've never seen anything like it ever. And

1523
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 3: I think as much as we love Shadoor, yesterday was

1524
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 3: a real eye opening moment because how many like field.

1525
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 3: For anyone that doesn't know, he was a scout in

1526
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 3: the NFL before it worked for ESPN, so it's not

1527
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 3: like he's new to seeing players in person. And he

1528
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 3: kept talking about the speed and the cuts and the

1529
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 3: quickness and you know, making wide receiver comps to Justin

1530
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 3: Jefferson and all of this information. And I actually walked

1531
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 3: away saying, as much as we are talking about Shador

1532
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 3: and we should, I think yesterday was probably an eye

1533
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 3: opening reminder that Travis Hunter is He's clearly number one

1534
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 3: in this draft. He should be number one. Like, if

1535
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 3: all you care about is I want to take the

1536
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 3: absolute clear cut best player in this draft, it should

1537
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 3: be Travis Hunter and not should Like, hey, Cam Wore's

1538
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 3: probably going to go number one to the Titans because

1539
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 3: they don't have anybody to throw the ball to Travis Hunter.

1540
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 3: But I'm a little stunned that were like when Chador

1541
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 3: falls or if Shador falls, I want us to remember

1542
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 3: that part of it is because there are other players

1543
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 3: that are just worth more in this draft, and one

1544
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 3: of them is Travis Hunter.

1545
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 2: Yes, and there was a lot of talk yesterday that

1546
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 2: he First it was like he wasn't gonna could participate,

1547
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 2: and then it was like, well, he might participate, and

1548
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 2: then it was no, he's not participating. Well, I taught

1549
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: the Baldi before he left to walk up the hill

1550
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 2: to go to the pro day, and he's like, dude,

1551
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 2: he goes, I don't know if he's going to be

1552
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 2: there or not. The word is he's not, and he

1553
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 2: was vacillating, and then of course he runs and you know,

1554
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: he wows everybody. And yeah, the Justin Jefferson thing is

1555
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: fascinating to me. I still like a dual Carter, but I.

1556
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 3: Love the foot. Injury with a duel makes me a

1557
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 3: little bit nervous. I'm sure it's going to be fine.

1558
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 3: Everybody thinks it's going to be fine. But anytime you

1559
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 3: see an edge rusher with the foot, but yeah, I like,

1560
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 3: if I told you that you could draft and this

1561
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 3: is just a general blanket question everybody. I don't want

1562
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 3: to take the particulars of the organization in mind. Just

1563
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,480
Speaker 3: for a moment, if I said, hey, You could draft

1564
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson, who also, by the way, is going to

1565
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 3: give you fifteen to twenty snaps a game corner or everybody.

1566
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 3: Everybody thinks he's gonna play some both ways. So you

1567
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 3: have the choice of drafting Justin Jefferson with a little

1568
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 3: bit of corner help. You have the choice of drafting

1569
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 3: drafting let's say Michael Parsons, or you can draft Gino Smith,

1570
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 3: who you take it like it, And that's the hard part.

1571
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 3: Like I think sort of the ceiling for this year's

1572
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,719
Speaker 3: quarterback class for these guys is to end up being

1573
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 3: a Geno Smith the middle of the pack pretty good,

1574
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 3: like not not necessarily, like, hey, you're not desperate at

1575
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 3: the position, but you also don't have that guy. I

1576
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 3: think that's sort of real for where both Cam and

1577
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 3: Shador would end up. And when you apply that logic

1578
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 3: to it, you know, there's I realized the Titans have

1579
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 3: no one to throw the ball to anybody, And I

1580
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 3: realized that the Browns have done absolutely nothing to figure

1581
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: out the quarterback position this year. And we all know

1582
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 3: the Giants got to figure something like so need is

1583
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 3: huge at the quarterback position, But man, I just I

1584
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 3: don't I don't love drafting a guy because you need him,

1585
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 3: and Shador did well. It just brought it all all accounts.

1586
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 3: Yesterday people were impressed with Shador. It's just what do

1587
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 3: you really think the sea is for that quarterback?

1588
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 4: Like?

1589
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 3: Do you believe that should do it? And I hear

1590
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 3: everybody when he say, well, you just got to take

1591
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 3: a chance, do you. I don't take a chance unless

1592
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 3: you are.

1593
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 2: Shy, would not you wouldn't. And when he dares me

1594
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: not to take him, I go, all right, you know,

1595
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 2: God bless I wish you well. I hope you know.

1596
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 2: I hope you do well. I don't know which any will,

1597
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 2: but he's too big of a risk for me, and

1598
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: he shouldn't fly. The only way that he'll be who

1599
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 2: he thinks he is is if he sits for a year.

1600
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: I agree with that.

1601
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 2: There's no way. He's not close to being ready. I

1602
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 2: watched his tape, all his tape. He's not close to

1603
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 2: being ready.

1604
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 3: And you know, honestly, if you if we came in

1605
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 3: today and said, you know what, here's the scenario quarterback

1606
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 3: X and I don't care whether we're talking about Cam

1607
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 3: Woard or should Door Sanders or even one of the

1608
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 3: Flyers later quarterback x Jackson Dart for example, it gets

1609
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 3: drafted by a stable organization that sits him for two

1610
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 3: year years while he develops and while coaches work with him,

1611
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 3: and then he gets behind a stable offensive line and

1612
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 3: he's able to play and just be the best version

1613
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 3: of himself. I love any of these quarterbacks in that situation.

1614
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 3: I think. I think these quarterbacks with time to develop

1615
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 3: could be in a really special situation. I fear that

1616
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 3: the Titans are gonna draft cam Ward first. Overall, They're

1617
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 3: gonna throw him to the Wolves and it's not gonna work.

1618
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 3: And you know, Schador, if he goes to Cleveland at

1619
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 3: number two, there's I don't feel great about. Like if

1620
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 3: you told me that Shador was going to Cleveland, was

1621
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: gonna work with Stefanski for two years and then hit

1622
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 3: the field, Okay. I just think most of these bad

1623
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 3: teams are likely to trot him out day one. And

1624
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 3: if you do that, that's that's just it's bad for

1625
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 3: the team, bad and bad for the player. And the

1626
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 3: Giants are under this weird pressure to win right now,

1627
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 3: and which is a table.

1628
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and actually it makes a lot of sense. You know,

1629
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: if you're the Giants and you like Shador to take

1630
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 2: him and that then you got Jane miss and Ross

1631
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 2: just to play the year out right, like let's see

1632
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, and you let the kid, let the

1633
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: kid watch learn and be a part of it. It's

1634
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 2: a perfect scenario in that sense for Giants.

1635
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 3: Same thing I would say, Look, I genuinely do not

1636
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 3: believe as we sit here today that the Raiders have

1637
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 3: any interest in should do or Sanders at six. I

1638
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 3: do not believe that if they draft him, Okay, I

1639
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 3: mean like, if they draft him at six, and you

1640
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 3: know the contractor has been extended with Gino and it's

1641
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 3: essentially a two year deal that could become a three

1642
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 3: year deal, you know that, Okay, cool, Gina's going to start,

1643
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 3: is going to slow roll, and they found their quarterback

1644
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 3: they think they have for the future. Okay, I trust

1645
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 3: that that scenario. Implicitly, if you told me a month

1646
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 3: ago before the Geno acquisition that the Raiders were going

1647
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 3: to draft Shador, I'd be sitting over here like the

1648
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 3: you know, kerr of the frog, panicking around the room

1649
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:55,560
Speaker 3: because that's a terrible ideal, Like put him on the

1650
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 3: field day one. I think that's a terrible idea. Let

1651
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 3: him develop with the coaching staff, that is, how to

1652
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 3: develop a quarterback. I think that's a great idea. So like,

1653
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 3: I'm not out on Shador. I'm out on Shador in

1654
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 3: the top five to a place where he's gonna go

1655
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 3: top ten, to a place where he's gonna go and

1656
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 3: have to start right away, Like if Shadour ends up

1657
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 3: in New Orleans, for example, So Kellen Moore gets his

1658
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 3: quarterback in the future, but they're contractually locked into Derek

1659
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 3: Carr for a couple of years. I really like that, Like,

1660
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 3: I don't think that's a bad thing.

1661
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 2: It's just going to Kellen and nuss Meyer. Yeah, I

1662
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 2: mean nus is a good coach, going going to those two.

1663
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: I think that that works. I'll be honest with you, Like,

1664
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 2: I know for some reason he's paularizing. I don't understand.

1665
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 2: Like if you're not you don't like the kid. You

1666
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 2: don't like the kid, right, Like what's the big deal?

1667
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 2: Like some kids you like, right, some kids you don't like.

1668
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 2: And you look at him and after it's seen on

1669
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 2: his tate, I say, all right, what do you got?

1670
01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 2: He's his strength is I think he throws really well

1671
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 2: down the field. He could throw a nice deep ball.

1672
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 2: I mean I think his arms okay, right, like as

1673
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 2: far as that intermediate twenty yard you know, let me

1674
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 2: fire it. He's a pocket guy, so it's not like he's,

1675
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 2: you know, some great athlete. I mean, I think he

1676
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 2: has a chance to be a starter in the top ten.

1677
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 2: I think he's too big of a risk. And again,

1678
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 2: he didn't throw enough because of their offense. You know,

1679
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of pro throws that you saw

1680
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 2: in his offense in that offense.

1681
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 3: Also line too, I'll add one more layer to it,

1682
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 3: the expectations that we put on somebody drafted in the

1683
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 3: second round were drafted late in the first round versus like,

1684
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 3: let's all remember when I was covering the draft the

1685
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 3: year Lamar got got drafted and the Ravens moved up

1686
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 3: to get him at the end of the first round.

1687
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 3: And the minute that happened, it was like, okay, you

1688
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 3: know what, the Ravens got their developmental quarterback for the future.

1689
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 3: It changes the entire tone around what we think of

1690
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 3: a quarter right or wrong, should or shouldn't doesn't change

1691
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 3: any of that. If you take Kenny Pickett in the

1692
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 3: middle of the first round. There's a much different conversation

1693
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 3: about the career of Kenny Bickett than if you're taking

1694
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett where Zack Wilson was selected, Like, it's not

1695
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson's fault that the Jets overdrafted Zach Wilson, but

1696
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 3: they did, and that changed all of the expectations on

1697
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 3: the player. It changed the way we perceived his entire career.

1698
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 3: It changed the eyeballs to scrutiny all of these things.

1699
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 3: So that's part of the reason too, where if you

1700
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 3: tell me Shaduur goes somewhere, if Shaduur ends up getting

1701
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 3: drafted or Jackson dart ends up getting drafted by the Rams,

1702
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 3: and you find out that, you know what, Sean McVay

1703
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 3: is going to develop a quarterback in the middle of

1704
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 3: the first round and that's going to be their quarterback

1705
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 3: of the future, Well that changes the entire conversation around

1706
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 3: their success right way. It changes the way we perceive

1707
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 3: their failures, Like it changes everything versus when you're taking

1708
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,679
Speaker 3: second overall and now you've got to be the franchise

1709
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 3: savior for the Browns, and I just I don't think

1710
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 3: that that quarterback. I don't think that that there's a

1711
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow that immediately changes the dynamic of your entire

1712
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 3: franchise in this year's in this year's draft at the

1713
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 3: quarterback position, I think, I think there is a superstar

1714
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 3: in Travis Hunter. I think there is a superstar in

1715
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 3: Abdul Carter. I think, frankly, there's a superstar in Mason Graham.

1716
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 3: I think there are there are guys at the top

1717
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 3: of this draft.

1718
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 5: I love.

1719
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 2: Mason.

1720
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you tell me, you tell me that the

1721
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 3: Browns take Abdul Carter and Mason Graham, and I think

1722
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 3: two is a little rich for a lot of people's

1723
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 3: blood on Mason. But you tell me that you can

1724
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 3: make your strength stronger, go out and get you the

1725
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 3: best rushers that you could possibly get. How do you

1726
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 3: beat Mahomes? Everybody keeps asking how do you beat Mahomes?

1727
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 3: And I keep yelling, the blueprint is there. You beat

1728
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 3: the snot out of him, Like you.

1729
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 2: You know why the Eagles won the Super Bowl of

1730
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 2: all the whole things, and listen, completely great team, and

1731
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,719
Speaker 2: you know, and they were dominant, and they were dominant

1732
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 2: the whole season, and they have the obvious. But if

1733
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to boil it down to one player, who

1734
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 2: do you think I'm gonna say, Jalen Carter. Yes, I

1735
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 2: mean yes, yes, Jalen Carter won that Super Bowl for him.

1736
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 2: I listened Barkley the Greatest A j Jalen you know

1737
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 2: they all the old lines, unbelievable, Devonte Smith like they're

1738
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 2: just they're they're a great team, but they win. I

1739
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 2: mean even on the other the secondary of the kids,

1740
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 2: Quinya Mitchell to Cooper Dejen But they won that super

1741
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 2: Bowl and through the playoffs because Jalen Carter is unblockable.

1742
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 2: He first of all, they would have lost to the Rams.

1743
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 2: The Rams are going to go with his score, h

1744
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 2: and A. Carter blows it up. He was the Chiefs

1745
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:11,640
Speaker 2: was so petrified from Carter that they the people, oh

1746
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 2: my home is it play well?

1747
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1748
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 2: Anytime their dead. They couldn't block. And it all started

1749
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 2: with Carter. They had a double and triple him and

1750
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 2: then everybody who singled up and beating their man. Carter

1751
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 2: is was the force behind it. It's why I got

1752
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 2: duel Carter. Now he's off the edge, but I think

1753
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 2: he's a game wrecker, Like you get those d line

1754
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 2: game wreckers. That's where the games won.

1755
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 3: And to that end, I will remind everybody, I mean,

1756
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 3: Jalen Carter would have gotten much higher in the draft

1757
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 3: or not the incidents that he was involved in off

1758
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 3: the field leading up to it. I've said this before,

1759
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 3: but it's the only time in my entire career covering

1760
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,839
Speaker 3: the draft that I had to pre write a statement

1761
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 3: on Jalen Carter and get our our team at ESPN

1762
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 3: had to proove what I was going to say about

1763
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 3: Jalen Carter because we had to be prepared. There was

1764
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 3: a chance that year, frankly, that the Raiders might draft him,

1765
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 3: and a lot of people thought that would happen, and

1766
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 3: given the situation with Henry Ruggs that they had to

1767
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 3: be very careful and we had to pre write all

1768
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 3: sorts of stuff. So there's context to why Jalen Carter

1769
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 3: was even available. I'm glad he's become the pro he

1770
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 3: is because I think everybody that covered him in college

1771
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 3: you knew that this greatness was there. You knew that

1772
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 3: the Jalen Carter could be this game wrecker, and that's

1773
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 3: why sneaky everybody always asked me, I wear my fanom

1774
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 3: on my sleeve. I get asked all the time, what

1775
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 3: do you want the Raiders to do?

1776
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 2: At six?

1777
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 3: If I was just sitting here rubbing a Genie lamp

1778
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 3: and saying I could have anything with the sixth overall

1779
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 3: pick for my beloved Raiders, it would be some weird

1780
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 3: world where the quarterbacks are overdrafted and Abdul Carter falls,

1781
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 3: which I don't think will happen, or Mason Graham is

1782
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 3: sitting there at six and I've had Raiders fancy, well,

1783
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 3: why do you want that? You have Christian Wilkins and

1784
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 3: Max Crosby. And I look at it and say, because

1785
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 3: the more unblockable guy like this is what Philly just

1786
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 3: showed us, the more unblockable eyes that you have in

1787
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 3: the front seven of your defense, the more it changes

1788
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 3: everything in the way that you have to be game

1789
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 3: planned against, and the more difficult it makes for anybody

1790
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 3: to do anything against you. Like So, if you if

1791
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 3: you're going to be taking on the Homes and Josh

1792
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 3: Allen and Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson, if you're going

1793
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 3: to be taking on Hall of Famer after hall of

1794
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 3: Famer in the AFC for the next fifteen years, well,

1795
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 3: it's this year's quarterback class I don't think has a

1796
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer in it. So instead, I'd rather

1797
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 3: get somebody that I know can knock the snot out

1798
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 3: of one of those guys we just mentioned, because that's

1799
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 3: the only way you can disrupt the game and try

1800
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 3: and advance.

1801
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why. And what the Eagles did was

1802
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 2: they built they built a team around their quarterback. Like Listen,

1803
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 2: Jalen played well, like you know, certainly, but I mean

1804
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 2: if you look at the sheer number of throws he

1805
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 2: had to make, it's not like he had to throw

1806
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 2: them to victory, right.

1807
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 3: And think about what you just said too, Like Jalen

1808
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 3: who's been paid and who I think deserves all the

1809
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 3: love he gets. Jalen the second round draft pick, Like

1810
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 3: I just, I know everybody feels obsessed like you have

1811
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 3: to take a quarterback in the beginning of the draft,

1812
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,600
Speaker 3: and I just I think you have to find the

1813
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 3: quarterback that you can roll with in your system, that

1814
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 3: you can get the most out of. And that's that's

1815
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 3: Jalen for affiliates, which I again like it's I don't

1816
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 3: think Jalen is that if he's drafted by another team.

1817
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 3: It takes certain situations, certain players, certain combinations, certain roster builds,

1818
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 3: an understanding of all fifty three, not just one. Like

1819
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 3: I know, we're quarterback obsessed as a society. I just

1820
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 3: I think the top three teams in this year's draft

1821
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 3: that are desperate for quarterback are going to have the

1822
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 3: blinders on and take those quarterbacks when there are actual

1823
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 3: difference maker game wreckers that could help them right now.

1824
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 2: And that's right on, man, it's right on. I mean,

1825
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 2: and you look at that formula. And again, you know

1826
01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 2: the Eagles were two and two when they were throw

1827
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 2: first team, all right, and only they had to come

1828
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 2: to Jesus Lane Johnson and the old line went to

1829
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore and was like, yo, we're a downhill run team,

1830
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 2: Like we gotta run the ball first. And when Jalen

1831
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 2: became more of a you know, what's the what's the word.

1832
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to say game manager because it sounds negative,

1833
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 2: but you get my point where you dial back to throw, throw, throw, throw, throw,

1834
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 2: and it becomes way more. I mean, they ran the

1835
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 2: ball more than anybody in the league, and look what happened.

1836
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 2: They want an epic run because now now Kurtz is

1837
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 2: playing complimentary quarterback right where you got eight in the box,

1838
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 2: and all right, you're gonna put eight in the box,

1839
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 2: no problem, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to a J.

1840
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 2: Brown down the field. Like That's why they won, That's

1841
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 2: why their offense was so good. They worried it at

1842
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 2: the quarterback, the quarterback who you had to pay, but

1843
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 2: the quarterback. It's a lot easier playing quarterback when you

1844
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 2: have the best O line, two great receivers at a

1845
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame running back.

1846
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 3: Okay, so I know we got a break. That leads

1847
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 3: me to a question that I have to ask you

1848
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 3: because we haven't gotten one of the biggest prospects in

1849
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 3: the draft, and I think as a Philly expert, you

1850
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 3: have the best knowledge on what all of this means

1851
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 3: for Astroon genty. I gotta get your thoughts on it.

1852
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,639
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1853
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:36,080
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1854
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1872
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Speaker 3: Every time you read that, I just think about how

1873
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 3: funny it would be to, you know, for you to

1874
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,560
Speaker 3: just stand like, I've got this this image of my

1875
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,839
Speaker 3: head of you know, we got cousin over in chaps

1876
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 3: with the cowboy hat on and like one long piece

1877
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 3: of wheat hanging out. He's chewing on it and I'm

1878
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 3: in the middle of a pen, just chasing the chickens

1879
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 3: everywhere and trying to get the damn things to calm down.

1880
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 3: And then I finally catch one, and then you know,

1881
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 3: the actual farmer that knows what they're doing, walks up

1882
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 3: and is like, now we got to slaughter it, and

1883
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm out. I pass out and the chicken gets away

1884
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 3: Like that That's all I can think of, Like this

1885
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 3: is why, for sure, why what makes tractors supply great

1886
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:29,599
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1887
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,679
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1888
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 3: I I got cousin in chaps and me running around like,

1889
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 3: you know, an idiot trying to chase down chickens.

1890
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 6: Fellas you guys, you probably don't belong in with chicken

1891
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 6: coop man, like I walk through like because you know

1892
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:47,640
Speaker 6: the Big Ee. Okay, so you don't know this, but

1893
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 6: a lot of people don't know this. The Big Ee

1894
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 6: is the State Fair of New England, and I didn't

1895
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 6: misspeak for once. Instead of doing individual state fairs.

1896
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 3: They do the largest state fair in the country, and

1897
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:03,879
Speaker 3: it's a combination of Maine, Maryland, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire,

1898
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 3: Connecticut and Pennsylvania like and each of them get their

1899
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 3: own houses at the Big East, so they all have

1900
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 3: like different things that you can see exhibits and vendors

1901
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 3: from me, Like the thing's massive. It's like three weeks

1902
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 3: in September. It's huge. It's chaos. It's huge concerts every night,

1903
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 3: like it is absolutely the Biggie is absolute chaos. But

1904
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 3: they have this agricultural section on the side where they

1905
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 3: have like you know, sheeps hearing and like you know,

1906
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 3: the four h things and chickens and every time, like

1907
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 3: every time I go to the Big Et, somebody's like, oh,

1908
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 3: let's go through the agricultural center. And I'm like, what

1909
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 3: part of me screams agricultural Center. Like I just there's

1910
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 3: just nothing about my body, Like I'm the worst former

1911
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 3: country music musician because I've never shot a gun, and

1912
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 3: I have no idea how to handle animals, like I

1913
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 3: have no idea, Like I just a it's laughable to me.

1914
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 3: Put me in a tree stand all. Like I always

1915
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 3: said to my like Boone was our drummer and Boone

1916
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 3: is still I love my brother and I always said

1917
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 3: to Boone, I'm like so to be clear. You drench

1918
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 3: yourself in deer p and you sit in camouflage in

1919
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 3: this like this area that's hidden with leaves with a

1920
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 3: gun for hours while you make no noise to shoot

1921
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 3: an animal it's across the field. It's like got a

1922
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 3: brain a tenth the size of yours, and you feel

1923
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 3: like you're the victor for that. Like I don't know,

1924
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't make a lot of sense to me,

1925
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 3: Like I'd rather just go somewhere and eat the animal.

1926
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 3: Let somebody else do the work. So me and me

1927
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 3: and chicken coops don't belong together.

1928
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:28,600
Speaker 2: Brother, Oh, that's awesome, that's great. You know, I was

1929
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 2: thinking about that one time. I forgot I've meant to

1930
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 2: bring that up to you. Like the country music, Like

1931
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 2: you're such an incredible country artist that you know the

1932
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 2: culture is it a culture clash?

1933
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's certainly like the weirdest part about

1934
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 3: tours is that people from all over the world moved

1935
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 3: to Nashville to try and make it in country music,

1936
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 3: which means people from all different backgrounds and walks a life.

1937
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 3: And that's one thing that athletes talk about is loving

1938
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 3: the locker room because you meet so many different people.

1939
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 3: Dan Orlovsky's talked so openly about the fact that, you know,

1940
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,600
Speaker 3: as a white kid that grew up in Connecticut, it

1941
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 3: was an adjustment getting to NFL locker rooms and just

1942
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 3: the different life experiences he sort of got by being

1943
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 3: around that much diversity and people from different walks of

1944
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,839
Speaker 3: life that have grown up different ways. It's not that dissimilar.

1945
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 3: Like when you start touring in country music, you got

1946
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 3: guys from all over the country and all over the

1947
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 3: world that are doing this thing. It is kind of

1948
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 3: crazy though when you say that, when you think about it, like,

1949
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 3: I definitely was the outlier, like in some ways, you know,

1950
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 3: super country, Like I love the music, and I love

1951
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 3: the storytelling of country music, and I love what county

1952
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 3: fairs are and like that sort of vibe. I love

1953
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 3: country music fans. They're like so much. It's just so

1954
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 3: great to hang out with. But am I the type

1955
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 3: to ever be like, oh, you know, like the good

1956
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 3: old country boy stuff of you know, going out and

1957
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 3: hunting and fishing and things like that. No, if I'm

1958
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 3: on a boat and there's fishing involved, there's not a

1959
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 3: chance I'm putting a warm on a hook. Like I'm

1960
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 3: a city kid. I was born in the city. I

1961
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 3: was raised around like there's not a chance that I'm

1962
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 3: looking around being like what I need is to put

1963
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 3: that warm on and then like you catch the fish

1964
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 3: and the thing's flopping around like no, Like it's just

1965
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 3: so culturally. I was always kind of the outlier on

1966
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 3: that stuff. For sure. Well, you know, day off on

1967
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,680
Speaker 3: the road, the guys that would be like a day

1968
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 3: off on the road, the number of guys that would

1969
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 3: go play golf. I don't play golf. And then the

1970
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:28,640
Speaker 3: number of guys that would be like, oh, let's go,

1971
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,799
Speaker 3: let's go to the local Cabela's or whatever whatever ammunition

1972
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 3: store exists somewhere, and I'm like, we just went to

1973
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 3: one yesterday, what do we need. It's like this one

1974
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 3: might have different stuff, So like I don't know that,

1975
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 3: you know, that's just different strokes. That was never my personality.

1976
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 2: That's funny, that's that's hysterical. Yeah, I've always wanted to

1977
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 2: because I never really spent The only time I was

1978
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 2: down South was to cover college football, right, So, like

1979
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 2: covered sports when I was a journalist, and I would

1980
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:03,759
Speaker 2: travel all the time, and I always wanted to spend

1981
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 2: some time and get to rocksually appreciate the culture because

1982
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 2: I never did, like I never you know, I you know,

1983
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 2: to this day, I've never been to a state fair.

1984
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 3: Oh Man, first of all, state fair food, by the way,

1985
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,759
Speaker 3: a total side, Like I know, we actually have sports

1986
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 3: to talk about. Yeah, I have to update you on

1987
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 3: this because this is happening live time in front of me.

1988
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 3: I am for for anyone that's just tuning in. I'm

1989
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 3: sitting in an empty conference room at the Media Hotel

1990
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 3: in San Antonio. Okay, so there is this and it's

1991
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 3: set up for a big meeting that happens right after

1992
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 3: our show, right. So there's thirty chairs around a massive

1993
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 3: table in here. Okay, I am the only thing in

1994
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 3: this conference room. And while you were talking, so a

1995
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 3: chair definitely moved, like it moved visibly moved. So I'm like, okay,

1996
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 3: there might be an animal in this room with me.

1997
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1998
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 3: I have now walked over to see that the ceiling

1999
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 3: tile has fallen out above this chair and it's just

2000
01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 3: exploded all over the ground. Now it's on the other

2001
01:45:57,880 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 3: side of the conference room. But I just got to

2002
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 3: say this live so that we can clip it off

2003
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 3: on air in case They're like, hey, you, what were

2004
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 3: you doing crawling in the ceiling. I was not in

2005
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 3: the ceiling, all right.

2006
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 2: The wrap that just fell down from the ceiling was there, right.

2007
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 3: I mean something the ceiling the ceiling title is fault.

2008
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 3: So either the place is haunted and or there's like

2009
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 3: a person in the ceiling. I don't know. So if

2010
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 3: you know, if I don't make it, Anthony, just make

2011
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 3: sure you tell me I got your brother, Okay, just

2012
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 3: make sure.

2013
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,960
Speaker 2: I got you. I'll save in your honor. I'll make

2014
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 2: sure I do halloweens all your animatronics.

2015
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 3: I'll make sure I appreciate it, live on spread and

2016
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 3: spread my ashes at Allegiance Stadium. I think that's a fair.

2017
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 2: Request, and I dude, I will make that happen. Brother.

2018
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 3: There we go. This this is it for me, like

2019
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 3: whether it's a ghost or an animal. Like I was

2020
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 3: in a humble brag. I was in Paris, Paris once

2021
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 3: and this first time I'd ever been in Paris, and

2022
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:53,719
Speaker 3: I had to take the subway early in the morning

2023
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 3: to get to the airport. And I was by myself,

2024
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 3: and I walked in and I mean there was not

2025
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 3: another person in the pairs subway anywhere to be seen,

2026
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 3: and I was standing around. It was eerily quiet. It

2027
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,759
Speaker 3: was before the first train of the day was actually running.

2028
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 3: It was such a weird hour the night. And all

2029
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 3: of a sudden I hear the pitter patter of feet

2030
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 3: and I look over and there is an army of

2031
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 3: rats coming at me and probably I don't know, ten

2032
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 3: fifteen rats and their dog size rats. And so I

2033
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 3: do what any sane again, like not a good country boy.

2034
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 3: I hop up on the bench like the elephant commercial.

2035
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 3: Like cartoons, you scene shriek like a small child. And

2036
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 3: I watched there was a tiny hole in the subway wall,

2037
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 3: and I watched the first, the fattest of the rats,

2038
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 3: go to that hole. First definitely wasn't getting through. And

2039
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 3: I watched all ten of these rats basically just push

2040
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 3: him through the hole. And then they pushed him right

2041
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 3: through the hole, and each rat got smaller, and they

2042
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 3: each got through the a hole until the last one.

2043
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 3: And the last one made it fine. It was the

2044
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 3: littlest of the rats. And I kept thinking, Okay, I'm

2045
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 3: going to die in a Paris subway from a rat attack,

2046
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 3: which is definitely a plot of a horror move which

2047
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 3: are not ironic. Also, these rats are smart enough and

2048
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 3: they are like schooled enough that they know how to

2049
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 3: get each other through a different sizes, through a tiny

2050
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 3: hole in the wall. And this now I'm gonna die.

2051
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 3: I'm just having flashbacks to that because I'm pretty sure

2052
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 3: ceiling tile falls down means I'm about to be attacked.

2053
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 3: Those rats have probably have been following me for the

2054
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 3: last twelve plus years.

2055
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 2: You bet, celebrity. You don't even understand it. There is

2056
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 2: a there was a movie. In fact, it was my

2057
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 2: kid's favorite movie, RATITII Ratitu He was good man, right,

2058
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 2: Ratio was a chef from Paris. You met the rat

2059
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 2: to tie.

2060
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 3: That's you know, That's how I'm going to retell that

2061
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 3: story in my life. And also I realize again how

2062
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:47,200
Speaker 3: not country music I am. Sometimes when you mentioned Ratitue

2063
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 3: and I perk up like a child. I'm like, oh,

2064
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 3: I love that movie so much. I'm the I'm the

2065
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 3: anti man's man. Anthony, Save us, Save us, Save us.

2066
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 3: I took us off course from from County Fairs, which

2067
01:48:58,320 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 3: are far more.

2068
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 2: Great story though real quick. So there was an Eagles coach.

2069
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 2: This is at the end days of veteran stadium all right.

2070
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 2: There is an Eagles coach on the on Andy Reid's staff,

2071
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:15,800
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he's doing his work at

2072
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 2: his desk and the ceiling just like that, the thing

2073
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 2: falls down right and two fat, gigantic rats fall on

2074
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 2: top of his desk while he's working. Oh my god,

2075
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 2: at Veterans Stadium.

2076
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 3: Just ask him for you know, ask him for a friend.

2077
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 2: Here.

2078
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 3: If that were to happen and a grown man would,

2079
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 3: let say, tinkle their pants, do you admit it? Because

2080
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,759
Speaker 3: that's what would happen to me. I would definitely rats

2081
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 3: fall on the table like anything in my body.

2082
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 2: Like a true football guy, I said, what you do?

2083
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 2: He should? I got my legal pad and I shoot

2084
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 2: him away.

2085
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god. I would go sprinting

2086
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,560
Speaker 3: out of the room with both hands flying in the

2087
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 3: air like Kermit the Frog and shrieking like a child

2088
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,560
Speaker 3: that had just seen a ghost. That would be that

2089
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 3: would be my my only play, my only play. And

2090
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,679
Speaker 3: and then like I'm be honest, I'd have to quit

2091
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,720
Speaker 3: because now everybody knows, like you saw me running out,

2092
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 3: and I probably have been and soiled my pants. It's

2093
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 3: all happened. At this point, you've seen it. I'm never

2094
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 3: gonna be able to look you in the eye again,

2095
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 3: like this, this is this is, this is fact. Like

2096
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 3: I'm just I leave. I probably just sell the house

2097
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 3: and leave the town completely and then hope that nobody

2098
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 3: got internet pictures on it. Like that's I might leave

2099
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 3: all social media just in case. Like yeah, that's it.

2100
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 3: Rats fall on the table. I leave for another country.

2101
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:42,839
Speaker 3: I moved to Mexico and I retire.

2102
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 2: That's it. You're the best man. That's hysterical. All right,

2103
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 2: I promise we come back. We'll get back to our

2104
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 2: draft talk. Where the fell is. You got to be

2105
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 2: cracking it off this forty You're on fire. I gotta

2106
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 2: hang it out right here. Final four Saturday on Fox

2107
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:09,920
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2108
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:13,479
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2109
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2110
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2111
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2112
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:27,800
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2113
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2114
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Speaker 2: so be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app and it's going to pop up the top

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Speaker 2: of your screams. You always got us all the time,

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Speaker 2: every day. All right, let's go back to some draft,

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Speaker 2: my man, and you wanted to talk about gent who

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Speaker 2: I love ash the gent.

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Speaker 3: So my question is what's the right thing to do

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01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 3: for you know, because we were talking earlier about the

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01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 3: success of the Eagles, and you know the way they

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01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:11,639
Speaker 3: built their offense, and obviously Saquon is a remarkable part

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Speaker 3: of that. And it's hard because we watch Saquon and

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01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:18,600
Speaker 3: Derek Henry and Josh Jacobs all have big years that

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01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:21,719
Speaker 3: were essentially wasted for bad teams. So I find myself

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Speaker 3: stuck sometimes because I understand the logic behind why you

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Speaker 3: don't take a running back and if you're a bad team,

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01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 3: it doesn't help you win football games. I get all

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Speaker 3: of that, but you also can't tell me that there

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01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 3: isn't some logic to simply making life easier. And you

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01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 3: make life easier. You are a better football team if

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Speaker 3: you can run the ball like I see here, and

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Speaker 3: I see these mocks have the Raiders taking Ashtroon genty

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01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 3: at six, for example, and I think, well, okay, I

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01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 3: mean Josh Jacobs didn't win you a bunch of games,

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Speaker 3: so why would you just take a running back? But

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01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 3: the counter to that is, Okay, you put that running

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01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 3: back in Chip Kelly's offense, you're going to be better. Yeah,

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01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 3: Like you're going to be demonstrably better day one if

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Speaker 3: you have Ashtroon gent as your running back. So I

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01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 3: think it gets really tricky because one of these bad

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01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 3: teams could really use him. But what does a bad

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01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 3: team do to prevent themselves from wasting him the way

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01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 3: that the Carolina Panthers wasted Christian McCaffrey, you know what

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01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:12,679
Speaker 3: I mean? So, like, it just seems so hard because

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01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 3: I have constantly said I think running backs are like

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01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 3: great toppings on ice cream. You still have to have

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01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,839
Speaker 3: ice cream for the toppings to be amazing. Like nobody's

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01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,600
Speaker 3: just eating hot fudge the same way, right, So I

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01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 3: see that, But I also see where like sometimes just

2153
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 3: do the simple thing. Best player available in this draft

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01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 3: is clearly going to be Astroon genty at some point,

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01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 3: and it's not even close.

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01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point, you break, I mean, And

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01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 2: it's been that way, you know, I know that there's

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01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 2: been a renaissance for running backs. Right, But if you

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01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:44,559
Speaker 2: go back in history when the running back was the man,

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Speaker 2: well it was you know, they were going at the

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Speaker 2: top of the drafts all the time, and they were

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01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 2: like quarterbacks. Remember if you go back in the you know,

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01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 2: eighties and nineties, right, like, running backs were taken well

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01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 2: above quarterbacks. You could have four or five backs in

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Speaker 2: the draft, and quarterbacks, you know, you would have guys.

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Speaker 2: That's why you know, guys lasted and but throughout time

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01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 2: you had great backs O. J. Simpson, Barry Sanders on

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Speaker 2: bad teams. All right, So that's the true is and

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Speaker 2: you always have to worry about. My question is what's

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Speaker 2: your own line look like? Like, let's talk about the Raiders, right,

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Speaker 2: because the Raiders give me their you know what, better

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01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 2: than I do. What's the what's their line?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the left tackle situations good, not great. Colton

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Speaker 3: Miller's the left tackle situation Powers Johnson becomes the center,

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Speaker 3: which is which is pretty good. I think they feel

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Speaker 3: really good about that moving forward. The guards are okay.

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Speaker 3: Till Parham was drafted out of Memphis. He's been back

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Speaker 3: and forth from guard to center. He's he's okay. They

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01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 3: signed Alex Kappa from the Bengals who had a really

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01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 3: bad year last year, and then they got Jake Glades,

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01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 3: the kid out of Maryland is you know, likely the

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Speaker 3: right tackle. So they feel like they have pieces. It's

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Speaker 3: a very other than Colton Miller. It's a very young

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Speaker 3: let's let's see kind of where it goes. Offensive line.

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Speaker 3: So it's good, not great. It's it's okay, it's not

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Speaker 3: the liability it has been, you know, but it's it's

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Speaker 3: not it's not the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Well, the fact that it's a young O line, like

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Speaker 2: I like to actually like the kid from Maryland. The

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Speaker 2: fact that it's a young O line. You want to

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01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 2: be able to run block anyway, right, It's it's hard.

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Speaker 2: Like you look at what the Eagles did. They have

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Speaker 2: the best offensive line of football, right like between them,

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01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 2: the Ravens, the Bills, like they have a ridiculous offensive line.

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Speaker 2: The Lions have a great offensive line, but the Eagles

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01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 2: are ridiculous and they have the greatest O line. Coach

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Speaker 2: a guy named Jeff Statlin is. It's an amazing, amazing coach.

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Speaker 2: He came from Alabama. He's unreal. I love Genty and

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Speaker 2: I think he can help the Raiders out big time,

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Speaker 2: and you got a young old line that that can

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01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 2: run block. It's always easy to run block. And Genty

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01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 2: to me, I mean I watched all his Tate Mouldy

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01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 2: and I did all the breakdowns and man, you know

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01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 2: it's not like Boise had this you know, electric offense, right.

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Speaker 5: It was him.

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01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 2: I mean you look and you could see it. I

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01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 2: mean there's a million plays out there that we that

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01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:38,640
Speaker 2: we charted that you know he got contact. His yards

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Speaker 2: after contact was ridiculous. I mean, he was a lot

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01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 2: of times it was just all him. He's that good.

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Speaker 2: If I'm the Raiders and assuming that there's no craziness

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01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:56,240
Speaker 2: and then somebody who doesn't fall, I'm taking Genty.

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Speaker 3: So if you're if you're a team picking in that

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01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 3: range and you have the choice between taking gent now

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01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 3: or drafting Chadeur for the future, I would take Ashton Genty.

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Speaker 3: So for me personally, I would take Ashton Genty. So

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01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 3: I would too, And that's because you know, at some point, again,

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01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 3: if you're looking at the Raiders, but this applies to

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Speaker 3: several teams, But if you're looking at the Raiders, you're thinking, Okay,

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01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 3: we just spent pretty good money. On Gino. All right,

2223
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 3: so Gino is going to be our starting quarterback for

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Speaker 3: the next few years. At a relative value, we think

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01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:31,080
Speaker 3: we can get productivity there. Well, how do you make

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Speaker 3: Gino better? Out of the gates? I mean, throwing the

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Speaker 3: brock Bowers and hand it off to Ashton Genty is

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01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 3: not the worst way to run your offense, you know.

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01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 3: It's just I think that makes you better, It makes

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01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 3: you more, It helps you stay in games from the

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01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 3: outset that you might not be in otherwise. Like I

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Speaker 3: just that's the part of it. I think that becomes enticing.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, and to me, you know, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: if you're able to get lucky on that line and

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01:57:56,400 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 2: it comes together, well dude, do you might have something there?

2236
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 2: And you got to start especially the Raiders name and

2237
01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 2: you could talk to it better than anybody. You got

2238
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 2: to start winning a little bit like you and I

2239
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 2: mean winning, I mean not be a complete train wreck

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01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 2: like that has to turn a little bit. You got professional,

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01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 2: You've got a professional coaching staff now, right, like that

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01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 2: has it's time. Yeah, I like I like gent I

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01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 2: think it would be a good fit and I would

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01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 2: clearly take him over shit or right now, the weather

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01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 2: set out. It's not to me, I would.

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01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 3: I also look at the Chicago Bears. I'm thinking, man,

2247
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:44,920
Speaker 3: you are praying. You are praying that Ashton Genty, just

2248
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 3: like for whatever reason, there's a mini rundown on running backs,

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01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 3: you're praying that the board. Like I think most teams

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Speaker 3: in the NFL right now are hoping that the Titans

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01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 3: and the Browns overdraft quarterbacks because it just means that

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01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 3: the best of the best is going to be available

2253
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 3: deeper into this draft, and that concludes the astron gentes

2254
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 3: of the world, Like if quarterback goes one and two,

2255
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Speaker 3: then teams three through ten should actually should they should

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01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 3: send cookies to those teams because it means you have

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01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 3: a much better chance in this year's draft of getting

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Speaker 3: a star player.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I'm telling you, I think dark Go's in the

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Speaker 2: top ten.

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Speaker 3: I think the closer we get to it, the more

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01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 3: I think you might be right.

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Speaker 2: I had somebody tell me. I was like, yeah, I

2264
01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 2: couldn't believe, but you know works he works in a

2265
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:38,040
Speaker 2: personnel office, say that he'll dark Goes over Sanders. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to the final four and kind of

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Speaker 2: what we look. The brain's coming up shortly and he

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Speaker 2: will dive deeply into these games. Yeah, I just to

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Speaker 2: put a bow on what we were talking about with

2286
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Speaker 2: the draft, because great draft conversation. I'm geeked up for it.

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Speaker 2: I know you are. Yeah, I had I had a guy,

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Speaker 2: personal guy tell me that that he thought that Dark

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Speaker 2: could go ahead of Sanders He's like, dude, will you

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Speaker 2: watch because there's a lot of heat on Dart and uh,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't say it, but I mean, who

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Speaker 2: knows I did. He also hear that Kyle McCord could

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Speaker 2: be a second round go high second round day two.

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Speaker 3: I think that's that's interesting because at some point when

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Speaker 3: you start thinking about what what happens for some of

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Speaker 3: these quarterbacks in the second round, that's where we're gonna

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Speaker 3: see guys go higher than ever. Right Like I think

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Speaker 3: right now, everybody's so obsessed with what's gonna happen with

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Speaker 3: Shador and Jackson, who you know, I think is clearly

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Speaker 3: at this point he's gonna he's gonna move sometime in

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Speaker 3: the first what half of the first round, and if

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Speaker 3: you if you're you're right, and he goes above Shador,

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Speaker 3: I think that'll be kind of shocking. But also it

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Speaker 3: speaks to some of what people really like.

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Speaker 2: It was a guy who it was the personal guy

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Speaker 2: who told me that sugges and I think that there's

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Speaker 2: this is.

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Speaker 3: Not the first time I've heard sort of that sentiment.

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Speaker 3: I think, let's let's see where that goes. But I

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Speaker 3: also look at some of this with the quarterbacks and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: the guys, we're not talking about the Tyler Shuck, you know,

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02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:11,320
Speaker 3: the Will Howard's, the Jalen Milrose all those guys. Like,

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Speaker 3: it feels like those guys are gonna go a little

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Speaker 3: higher than we expect. To me, I feel like second

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Speaker 3: round we're going to see a run on these quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: because again, it's not that the quarterbacks aren't capable. It's

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Speaker 3: not that the quarterbacks aren't I think really good in

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Speaker 3: this class. Like the ceiling for a lot of these

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks is the pretty we got a good we got

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Speaker 3: a good one, And I think we need to have

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Speaker 3: a line somewhere that isn't suck right like, because everybody's

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Speaker 3: like this guy's greater, this guy sucks. There's no one between.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of quarterbacks that I think are developmental

2324
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 3: projects here, and that makes a lot of sense with

2325
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:42,440
Speaker 3: the second round. I know you don't get the fifth

2326
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 3: year in their contracts at the second round, but man,

2327
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:46,640
Speaker 3: if you if you tell me that somebody's gonna draft

2328
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:48,960
Speaker 3: Jaalen Milroe for all of his flaws as a passer

2329
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:52,560
Speaker 3: because they think he's just such a supreme athlete, Okay, cool, Like,

2330
02:02:52,680 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 3: then take your time, work on the other stuff, and

2331
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:56,400
Speaker 3: don't put him on the field until he's ready. And

2332
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 3: if if he's not ready, then you blew a second

2333
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 3: round pick. That's way different than blowing the fifth overall

2334
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 3: pick or the third overall pick. You know what I mean? Like,

2335
02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:04,840
Speaker 3: I think that's the context we have to have in

2336
02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 3: the conversation.

2337
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's that, that's true.

2338
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:12,920
Speaker 3: And it's like also the like, that's a great in

2339
02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:16,160
Speaker 3: my mind for a team. It's a pressure freeway. We're

2340
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 3: not going to be going into training camp saying, oh

2341
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 3: my god, is Will how we're going to win the

2342
02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:22,120
Speaker 3: starting job. But you know, if he's a late second

2343
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:24,120
Speaker 3: round pick, I think what a team is telling you

2344
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:26,800
Speaker 3: there is like, hey, we might have an option and

2345
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:29,600
Speaker 3: it's worth at least checking out. And that's that to me.

2346
02:03:29,720 --> 02:03:31,600
Speaker 3: You take a flyer at the quarterback position because you

2347
02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 3: need one. You don't take a flyer on the fifth

2348
02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:36,520
Speaker 3: overall pick. That's the difference. So, you know, I want

2349
02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:38,200
Speaker 3: to be consistent in how we're covering it. But I

2350
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 3: do believe that you know, frankly, any of these guys,

2351
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:43,160
Speaker 3: And again, even if if you told me Shador went

2352
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:45,080
Speaker 3: to the rams and had two years to learn before

2353
02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:46,520
Speaker 3: he got on the field. I would feel so much

2354
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:48,680
Speaker 3: better about Shadoor than if he goes and it's just

2355
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:50,440
Speaker 3: put on the field week one, you know, on a

2356
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 3: on a bad Browns team.

2357
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:57,280
Speaker 2: Right, speaking of that one of them, we have a

2358
02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 2: one of our great listeners. Addie was like, well, that's

2359
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:04,240
Speaker 2: a joke. He's gonna learn from Deshaun Watson. And let's

2360
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 2: be clear, when these kids go to a program, Yeah,

2361
02:04:08,200 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 2: it's it's not like you're learning from the guy who's

2362
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 2: playing in front of you right now. You have some

2363
02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 2: guys that are that are good at not a position

2364
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 2: that will help, but that's for your offense, your your

2365
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:24,560
Speaker 2: OC your quarterback coach. They're the ones who develop you.

2366
02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:29,040
Speaker 2: You need to sit in the room, right, you need

2367
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 2: to osmosis like that quarterback room is a big deal.

2368
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:36,120
Speaker 2: But you're not sitting there learning from Deshaun Watson, so

2369
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:39,120
Speaker 2: to speak. But like Kenny Pickett's there, you're gonna have

2370
02:04:39,400 --> 02:04:44,160
Speaker 2: guys that understand the position and Kevin Stefanski's a great

2371
02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:46,880
Speaker 2: offensive coach. That's how you learn a position.

2372
02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think just watching it also understanding, Like, look,

2373
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:54,040
Speaker 3: do I believe that a veteran quarterback can help speed

2374
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:54,720
Speaker 3: up the process.

2375
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:55,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I do.

2376
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:57,720
Speaker 3: And a veteran quarterback that wants to be a mentor

2377
02:04:57,880 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 3: is a great thing. But you're a thousand per right,

2378
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 3: Like if if the Browns take a quarterback at two,

2379
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:05,360
Speaker 3: it's not going to have anything to do with you know,

2380
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:07,960
Speaker 3: Deshaun's not going to be the development here. Kevin Stefanski,

2381
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 3: that coaching staff, they're going to put a coach in

2382
02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:13,040
Speaker 3: his ear every minute of every day. They're going to

2383
02:05:13,120 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 3: start working with him, you know. And that's that's I

2384
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:17,040
Speaker 3: think part of what we have to Like, I think

2385
02:05:17,080 --> 02:05:18,480
Speaker 3: two things can be true. I think it can be

2386
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:20,560
Speaker 3: a great benefit if you have an Alex Smith for

2387
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:23,280
Speaker 3: Patrick Brahms to really help. But I also think that

2388
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:25,680
Speaker 3: at the end of all of it, you know, Deshaun

2389
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:28,960
Speaker 3: Watson isn't He's not going to be in a mentoring

2390
02:05:29,080 --> 02:05:33,400
Speaker 3: role at this point. I think it's even if he plays, yeah,

2391
02:05:33,640 --> 02:05:37,120
Speaker 3: I don't think yeah, I mean so, I don't think

2392
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:38,880
Speaker 3: he never takes another I don't think he ever takes

2393
02:05:38,920 --> 02:05:41,680
Speaker 3: another snaff for the for the Browns. Now, Unfortunately they

2394
02:05:41,720 --> 02:05:44,000
Speaker 3: can't do anything about that financially for the next couple

2395
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:46,040
Speaker 3: of years. That's also part of why. You know, you

2396
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:49,480
Speaker 3: look at the tea leaves and look, the Giants at

2397
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:51,480
Speaker 3: least protected themselves, And that's why I think it was

2398
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:53,880
Speaker 3: a smart I think Russ's washed, I do. I don't

2399
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:56,080
Speaker 3: think Russ has anything left in the tank. I also

2400
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:58,280
Speaker 3: think you couldn't go into the draft with no other

2401
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 3: option and the possibility quarterbacks will go one and two

2402
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:03,200
Speaker 3: and you're sitting at the third overall pick and you

2403
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:06,480
Speaker 3: don't have a quarterback. You just can't do that. That's

2404
02:06:06,600 --> 02:06:09,840
Speaker 3: what the Browns have ostensibly done to me. That's what

2405
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:11,880
Speaker 3: the Titans have done. The reason I'm so sure the

2406
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:13,680
Speaker 3: Titans are gonna take cam Ward even though I don't

2407
02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:16,440
Speaker 3: think they should, is because I don't believe will Levis

2408
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 3: is going to be the starter for him this year.

2409
02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:20,160
Speaker 3: So I think, you know, at some point, it's not

2410
02:06:20,240 --> 02:06:23,360
Speaker 3: even about rumors. It's about just look at the actual actions.

2411
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 3: Speak loud in the words like what quarterback is going

2412
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:27,520
Speaker 3: to be the starting quarter Joe Flacco, Like what are

2413
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:30,080
Speaker 3: they gonna do? So you know, I think because they

2414
02:06:30,120 --> 02:06:32,240
Speaker 3: haven't done anything else at the position, they pen themselves

2415
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:33,440
Speaker 3: in a corner where they have to do this.

2416
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're you're spot on there. It's gonna be

2417
02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:41,840
Speaker 2: I can't wait for it. It's gonna be great. The

2418
02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:46,400
Speaker 2: big news yesterday if you're just tuning in, was Travis Hunter,

2419
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:50,560
Speaker 2: you know, just just wowing people. Man, I mean, you

2420
02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:54,840
Speaker 2: want to talk about it, specimen an incredible athlete. My god,

2421
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 2: he's ridiculous.

2422
02:06:56,680 --> 02:07:02,400
Speaker 3: And you know, I just I don't like questions that

2423
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:07,120
Speaker 3: I don't think matter sometimes and so you know this, well,

2424
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 3: we're not really sure which side of the ball he's

2425
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:11,400
Speaker 3: going to play on. Who cares? Like at some point

2426
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:15,360
Speaker 3: just in you know, the value conversation on Ashton gent

2427
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:17,040
Speaker 3: like do you take a running back that high? And

2428
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:19,120
Speaker 3: you know, even for Travis Hunter, you're gonna take you

2429
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:21,360
Speaker 3: can't take a corner that higher. You can't take a

2430
02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 3: wide receiver one of that's gonna split time. But look,

2431
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:28,000
Speaker 3: this is such overcomplication to a very simple thing. If

2432
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:29,760
Speaker 3: you are picking at the top of the draft more

2433
02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 3: often than and you didn't trade to get there, you're

2434
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:34,760
Speaker 3: doing it because your team sucks. So like, when your

2435
02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 3: team sucks, no one person is going to fix your team.

2436
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:40,320
Speaker 3: I realize Jade and Daniel Daniels gets a lot of

2437
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 3: credit for what happened for Washington, and that's what everybody

2438
02:07:42,640 --> 02:07:44,600
Speaker 3: wants every year. That is the equivalent of paying your

2439
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:47,320
Speaker 3: mortgage with the lottery for the most part, if you

2440
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:50,080
Speaker 3: want to get better and you have the first overall pick.

2441
02:07:50,160 --> 02:07:53,520
Speaker 3: I think we obsess over, you know, these these situations,

2442
02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:56,680
Speaker 3: but what we're not talking enough about is the value lost,

2443
02:07:56,840 --> 02:07:58,520
Speaker 3: Like who would you have picked? Who could you have

2444
02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 3: picked over there that would make your raw better? And

2445
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:02,480
Speaker 3: I just I go back to last year from my

2446
02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 3: fandom seeing people lose their minds when the Raiders pick

2447
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:06,840
Speaker 3: brock Bauers, and it was like, well, you don't need

2448
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 3: a tight end, you need a great player. When you stink,

2449
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,560
Speaker 3: you need great players. So in this draft where there's

2450
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 3: a limited number of great players, I just think that

2451
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:17,839
Speaker 3: the most important thing you can do is not waste

2452
02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 3: the pick. And to me, taking a flyer on a

2453
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:22,520
Speaker 3: quarterback that might be okay because you're desperate at the

2454
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:25,720
Speaker 3: position and you can't win without a quarterback. If you're

2455
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 3: wrong about that, and I, unfortunately I think they lend

2456
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:31,080
Speaker 3: up being wrong. Not only have you set yourself back

2457
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 3: because of the quarterback situation, you set yourself back because

2458
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 3: you didn't go get a Justin Jefferson type or Michael

2459
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 3: Parsons type, Like you need those sorts of guys to win.

2460
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:41,800
Speaker 3: So to me, it's just so you're baring your head

2461
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 3: in the sand if you just decide that that's the

2462
02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:44,200
Speaker 3: way you're gonna approach it.

2463
02:08:45,400 --> 02:08:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's it. That's it. All right, Let's switch

2464
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:54,400
Speaker 2: gears for a minute. Let's talk about why you're in

2465
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:58,520
Speaker 2: San Antonio. It's Final four weekend and we got two

2466
02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:03,240
Speaker 2: great games. Cannot wait. We started the show early, we

2467
02:09:03,360 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 2: talked all about it. Let's kind of get dive back

2468
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 2: into that conversation and let's start with Florida and Auburn.

2469
02:09:12,160 --> 02:09:16,040
Speaker 2: Jani Broom. Janis has been the great story of this

2470
02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:20,360
Speaker 2: whole tournament, certainly last weekend. He's got one arm. He's

2471
02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:24,280
Speaker 2: just given you everything. You see the parents. I love

2472
02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:29,440
Speaker 2: these stories that come up during March and he just

2473
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:32,560
Speaker 2: he he's been terrific, really terrific.

2474
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:38,720
Speaker 3: Also, I mean, so Janai yesterday impressive focus. When I

2475
02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:40,280
Speaker 3: got to spend some time in the room with him,

2476
02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 3: and somebody asked him, you know, with the player of

2477
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:45,840
Speaker 3: the announcement coming right around the corner, he was asked

2478
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,840
Speaker 3: the question, what would he say? To anybody to make

2479
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:49,840
Speaker 3: his last you know, pitch for why he should be

2480
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 3: Player of the Year. And he just so clearly looked

2481
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:55,520
Speaker 3: at the room. He's like, I'm a dog, and there

2482
02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:58,120
Speaker 3: was an element there of you could see that he

2483
02:09:58,200 --> 02:10:01,000
Speaker 3: knew he wasn't going to get it. I wonder just

2484
02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:04,560
Speaker 3: sitting in the room as a competitive athlete, just sitting

2485
02:10:05,160 --> 02:10:08,600
Speaker 3: you know, three feet from Cooper flag getting all of this,

2486
02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:11,840
Speaker 3: the awards and the extra press conferences and extra security

2487
02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:15,800
Speaker 3: walking around everywhere. Like when we ask ourselves, what's the

2488
02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:18,680
Speaker 3: extra little motivation factor? You don't need any motivation in

2489
02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:21,000
Speaker 3: the final four. I get that, but man, I think

2490
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:24,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna see a really part of the reason Jenni

2491
02:10:24,080 --> 02:10:26,040
Speaker 3: wants to come out and show the world is because

2492
02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:30,360
Speaker 3: he got passed up on something he felt deserving of.

2493
02:10:30,560 --> 02:10:33,839
Speaker 3: You know, these little moments mean something, and that Auburn

2494
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:36,520
Speaker 3: team has a fight to him and an edge to

2495
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:39,240
Speaker 3: them that I think is really gonna it's gonna serve

2496
02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:41,920
Speaker 3: them this weekend. Just wanting to go out there and

2497
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:44,840
Speaker 3: sort of answer some questions around the world. And it's

2498
02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:47,920
Speaker 3: also funny because they heard and you know, when I

2499
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:49,800
Speaker 3: talked to LJ. Cryer and I asked him if they

2500
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:53,400
Speaker 3: felt overlooked and like ignored in the conversation because they're

2501
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:55,920
Speaker 3: not Duke and they're not the sec LJ said, I

2502
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:58,440
Speaker 3: don't pay any attention to anything anybody says, so I

2503
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:00,640
Speaker 3: wasn't aware until you asked me that we been ignored,

2504
02:11:01,160 --> 02:11:04,320
Speaker 3: and like I believed him when he said it. Jeni

2505
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:07,880
Speaker 3: and Auburn man from the outset of the different guys

2506
02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:10,800
Speaker 3: that you talk to, there was a conversation about man.

2507
02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:12,640
Speaker 3: At the end of the regular season. Everybody gave up

2508
02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:14,680
Speaker 3: on us, like we were great all year, but nobody

2509
02:11:14,720 --> 02:11:16,240
Speaker 3: seemed to care, like there was a little bit of

2510
02:11:16,280 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 3: a chip on a like, I think Auburn's gonna come

2511
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 3: out feisty in this game because they feel like everybody's

2512
02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:23,640
Speaker 3: hot on Florida and they feel like everybody's hot on

2513
02:11:23,720 --> 02:11:26,040
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag and not jan I Brume, and they feel like,

2514
02:11:26,360 --> 02:11:28,360
Speaker 3: you know, Bruce Pearl isn't getting the same level of

2515
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:30,280
Speaker 3: love and all of these things like that, they feel

2516
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:32,600
Speaker 3: it and it feels real, So I think you get

2517
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:36,920
Speaker 3: an inspired Auburn from it. It's just Florida's so damn hot,

2518
02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:38,320
Speaker 3: Like what do you do when you're on a heater

2519
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:39,480
Speaker 3: like Florida's on right now.

2520
02:11:40,120 --> 02:11:43,400
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, and truthfully, they haven't put they

2521
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:45,520
Speaker 2: haven't really played their best game yet.

2522
02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:49,560
Speaker 3: I mean the fact is they haven't. And they went

2523
02:11:49,600 --> 02:11:51,920
Speaker 3: through what I thought was the toughest gauntlet, like beating

2524
02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:55,320
Speaker 3: Connecticut got you goon stunk this year. I get that

2525
02:11:56,160 --> 02:11:58,520
Speaker 3: you still got to take out a two time defending champion.

2526
02:11:59,320 --> 02:12:02,360
Speaker 2: And that coach is we love more hate him. He's

2527
02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:06,280
Speaker 2: a great coach man. And they and they played, they

2528
02:12:06,440 --> 02:12:10,040
Speaker 2: played well, they played really well. They're scary, and they

2529
02:12:10,160 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 2: play that defense between defense and rebounding, that that zone

2530
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 2: they play and their defense, I mean, they're tough.

2531
02:12:18,160 --> 02:12:20,520
Speaker 3: And how many times did Hurley say at the postgame

2532
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:22,840
Speaker 3: press conference, like we knew that if you were going

2533
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:24,360
Speaker 3: to beat us, you were gonna have to put us down.

2534
02:12:24,720 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 3: And he was saying that in such a dogmatic like, hey,

2535
02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:31,560
Speaker 3: we understand what we're fighting for, you know. And I

2536
02:12:31,600 --> 02:12:33,680
Speaker 3: think that that's that's just part of it when you're

2537
02:12:34,120 --> 02:12:37,120
Speaker 3: a back to back defending champion, so you know, having

2538
02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 3: to get through that I think was difficult. Then they

2539
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:43,040
Speaker 3: get through a Florida team that absolutely, I mean that

2540
02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:47,000
Speaker 3: Florida team played lights out throughout the tournament and Florida

2541
02:12:47,480 --> 02:12:49,840
Speaker 3: or that I should say that Maryland team played lights

2542
02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:51,960
Speaker 3: out throughout the tournament and they took care of him.

2543
02:12:52,160 --> 02:12:54,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Florida's sort of answered the call

2544
02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:56,800
Speaker 3: every single time they've had to when they needed a

2545
02:12:56,800 --> 02:12:58,960
Speaker 3: big bucket against Texas Tech, that wasn't their best game,

2546
02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:01,920
Speaker 3: but when they needed it, they got it. So they're

2547
02:13:01,920 --> 02:13:04,000
Speaker 3: a little I don't know. That's a combination of battle

2548
02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:06,840
Speaker 3: tested and a combination of the size that Florida has

2549
02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:09,320
Speaker 3: in the middle and Walter Clayton Junior's right now looks

2550
02:13:09,320 --> 02:13:11,880
Speaker 3: like the best player in the tournament. Like, I don't know,

2551
02:13:12,120 --> 02:13:14,720
Speaker 3: it's just it's tough. It's tough for me to find

2552
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:15,680
Speaker 3: the out for Florida.

2553
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,800
Speaker 2: I'm feeling the same way, man, I'm feeling the same way.

2554
02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, and I just got the sneaky suspicion that

2555
02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:28,680
Speaker 2: they go that they finally put it all together and

2556
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:33,200
Speaker 2: if they play that game, Auburn can't match them.

2557
02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:37,760
Speaker 3: That's a really good exercise, brother, Like, we don't do

2558
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,640
Speaker 3: this enough where if we give you you know, I

2559
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:42,480
Speaker 3: use this phrase all the time, if we give universe

2560
02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:45,800
Speaker 3: a benefit of the doubt. So if we if both

2561
02:13:46,200 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 3: if both teams go out and play their best basketball,

2562
02:13:49,880 --> 02:13:52,160
Speaker 3: I think Florida is better than Auburn if they're both

2563
02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:54,919
Speaker 3: at the top of the top, playing the most efficient

2564
02:13:55,080 --> 02:13:57,240
Speaker 3: version of basketball, the best they've played all year. If

2565
02:13:57,480 --> 02:14:00,160
Speaker 3: Auburn has single handedly the best game that they they've

2566
02:14:00,160 --> 02:14:02,120
Speaker 3: had all season and Florida has the best game they've

2567
02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:07,840
Speaker 3: had all season, I think Florida wins that game. Conversely, though,

2568
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:10,160
Speaker 3: like if Duke plays the best game they played all

2569
02:14:10,240 --> 02:14:12,280
Speaker 3: year and Houston plays the best game they've played all year,

2570
02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:15,840
Speaker 3: I think Duke's a better team in that situation. But

2571
02:14:15,960 --> 02:14:18,360
Speaker 3: I don't think Houston will allow Duke to play the

2572
02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:20,000
Speaker 3: best game they played all year. Does that make sense?

2573
02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes perfect sense. That's called styles make fights, right,

2574
02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:29,440
Speaker 2: Like that's because they're such a good defensive team, and

2575
02:14:29,600 --> 02:14:34,560
Speaker 2: you're so deep and these factors, Like they played in

2576
02:14:34,640 --> 02:14:40,240
Speaker 2: a dome, they played in Indianapolis, you know, basically against

2577
02:14:40,280 --> 02:14:46,200
Speaker 2: hostile crowds against Purdue, you're tested. And I don't think

2578
02:14:46,440 --> 02:14:50,880
Speaker 2: Houston will get overwhelmed by Duke. Like I don't think

2579
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:55,680
Speaker 2: they go into it, you know, going all we gotta

2580
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:59,120
Speaker 2: play this team. I think they go into it looking

2581
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:00,360
Speaker 2: at the rough from.

2582
02:15:00,280 --> 02:15:02,920
Speaker 3: Up they don't give it. I can tell you after

2583
02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:06,120
Speaker 3: yesterday anybody, they don't give a damn about Duke. And

2584
02:15:06,200 --> 02:15:07,920
Speaker 3: one thing that really stood out to me, I asked

2585
02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:11,880
Speaker 3: three different players from Houston the same question, where does

2586
02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:13,880
Speaker 3: all of this come from from coach Sampson? Like what

2587
02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:17,120
Speaker 3: does he do that makes this team fire at this level?

2588
02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:17,480
Speaker 4: Right?

2589
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:20,200
Speaker 3: And the answer I got from two different guys that

2590
02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:22,760
Speaker 3: I thought was interesting they didn't know each other's answers

2591
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:25,320
Speaker 3: was he has the pulse of the team, and so

2592
02:15:25,520 --> 02:15:27,840
Speaker 3: all year, if you walked in and you just didn't

2593
02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:30,280
Speaker 3: have the right attitude, you might not have even opened

2594
02:15:30,280 --> 02:15:31,880
Speaker 3: your mouth. And if you walked in and you didn't

2595
02:15:31,880 --> 02:15:34,240
Speaker 3: have the right attitude, you were running. You were being

2596
02:15:34,280 --> 02:15:36,320
Speaker 3: forced to do sprints, like if he just didn't like

2597
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:39,600
Speaker 3: your vibe coming into practice, even in the offseason, you

2598
02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:42,200
Speaker 3: were essentially going to be punished for that. And it

2599
02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:44,280
Speaker 3: taught the guys from the outset that the minute you

2600
02:15:44,320 --> 02:15:46,480
Speaker 3: walk in the building, you worry about being the best

2601
02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:48,800
Speaker 3: version of you. I heard that over and over and

2602
02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:51,120
Speaker 3: over again. I don't think Houston gives a damn about

2603
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:53,840
Speaker 3: the D on the chest for Duke. They don't care

2604
02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:56,280
Speaker 3: about the moment. They don't care about the Final four,

2605
02:15:56,360 --> 02:15:58,680
Speaker 3: they don't care about the arena, they don't care about

2606
02:15:58,680 --> 02:16:01,440
Speaker 3: any the stadium, they don't care about the dome shooting.

2607
02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:04,800
Speaker 3: All Houston cares about is like I have been trained

2608
02:16:04,960 --> 02:16:07,360
Speaker 3: to bring in one thousand percent of my effort every

2609
02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:09,320
Speaker 3: time I walk on the court. And that's what makes

2610
02:16:09,320 --> 02:16:12,280
Speaker 3: Houston so good all year. Like most of these teams,

2611
02:16:12,320 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 3: as I said earlier, Auburn acknowledged that the season comes

2612
02:16:15,320 --> 02:16:16,880
Speaker 3: and runs, and they had a bad run at the

2613
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:19,040
Speaker 3: end of the regular season. I don't think Houston ever

2614
02:16:19,120 --> 02:16:21,760
Speaker 3: had a bad run this year. Houston didn't ever put

2615
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:23,840
Speaker 3: together back to back games where you're like, oh, what what,

2616
02:16:23,960 --> 02:16:26,640
Speaker 3: what's their effort look like? That? Right, that's gonna that's

2617
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:29,000
Speaker 3: gonna serve them in this game. Like I just I think,

2618
02:16:29,240 --> 02:16:32,280
Speaker 3: you know, intensity wins in all sports. Whoever brings it

2619
02:16:32,400 --> 02:16:34,840
Speaker 3: more in the beginning seems to have it, you know,

2620
02:16:34,959 --> 02:16:37,320
Speaker 3: can you maintain that intensity? What we know about Houston

2621
02:16:37,400 --> 02:16:40,120
Speaker 3: is they won't be outworked. So I think it's really interesting.

2622
02:16:40,200 --> 02:16:42,400
Speaker 3: I still pick Duke, so I stick with Duke, But

2623
02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:45,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, like I feel I feel more uncomfortable

2624
02:16:45,920 --> 02:16:48,280
Speaker 3: with that game than I do with the SEC matchup.

2625
02:16:48,959 --> 02:16:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely, And you know, obviously Duke is immensely,

2626
02:16:55,440 --> 02:16:59,640
Speaker 2: immensely talented, and then you know they have so many options.

2627
02:16:59,720 --> 02:17:04,000
Speaker 2: But again I go back to their comp like they

2628
02:17:04,160 --> 02:17:10,760
Speaker 2: lost to Clemson and that was a tough game for him,

2629
02:17:13,200 --> 02:17:19,680
Speaker 2: and Houston is similar to Clemson but better. So I

2630
02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:22,840
Speaker 2: keep going back to I watched that Clemson game. It

2631
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:26,640
Speaker 2: was a Saturday and I'll never forget it was like

2632
02:17:26,680 --> 02:17:29,600
Speaker 2: four o'clock game, watching the Clemson game and going, Wow,

2633
02:17:29,640 --> 02:17:32,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna go down and you know, it was a

2634
02:17:32,600 --> 02:17:35,040
Speaker 2: close game and they had they wound up getting the

2635
02:17:35,120 --> 02:17:39,960
Speaker 2: lead and they lost it. But it reminded me like

2636
02:17:40,120 --> 02:17:44,320
Speaker 2: thinking about that game, I'm going, Wow, like Houston, that's

2637
02:17:44,320 --> 02:17:47,640
Speaker 2: what Houston does, but only better. So what does that mean?

2638
02:17:49,360 --> 02:17:53,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be wild to see this. This final

2639
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:55,879
Speaker 3: four is electric, miss me. Everybody that doesn't like four

2640
02:17:55,959 --> 02:17:58,280
Speaker 3: ones go watch something else. This final four is going

2641
02:17:58,320 --> 02:17:58,840
Speaker 3: to be electric.

2642
02:17:59,800 --> 02:18:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I mean, and then you get the

2643
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:05,119
Speaker 2: whole thing. I wonder. Let me ask you a question.

2644
02:18:06,080 --> 02:18:09,800
Speaker 2: If Duke does not win, if Houston pulls an upset today,

2645
02:18:10,879 --> 02:18:15,039
Speaker 2: and I usually think if Duke's gonna lose. It's going

2646
02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:18,279
Speaker 2: to be in this game, not against Florida or Auburn.

2647
02:18:21,160 --> 02:18:24,920
Speaker 2: The Flag is Flag, definitely definitely out.

2648
02:18:25,720 --> 02:18:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's out. I think he's I don't, Yeah,

2649
02:18:30,360 --> 02:18:33,119
Speaker 3: I think he's out. Like and then I just feel

2650
02:18:33,160 --> 02:18:36,280
Speaker 3: like the god, the basketball gods are somehow gonna let

2651
02:18:36,560 --> 02:18:38,520
Speaker 3: the San Antonio Spurs win the lottery and we end

2652
02:18:38,600 --> 02:18:41,160
Speaker 3: up with Cooper Flag and Victor wibin Yama together. Oh

2653
02:18:41,280 --> 02:18:44,440
Speaker 3: my god, I'm just maybe I'm manifesting that because that's

2654
02:18:44,440 --> 02:18:47,280
Speaker 3: what I want. But yeah, I think that's like that

2655
02:18:47,480 --> 02:18:50,440
Speaker 3: just feels Pop comes back from everything, or you know,

2656
02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:52,960
Speaker 3: if he retires, Becky Hammond comes in and takes over

2657
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:54,800
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you're coaching two of the

2658
02:18:55,040 --> 02:18:56,680
Speaker 3: best young stars the game scene.

2659
02:18:57,520 --> 02:19:01,680
Speaker 2: That would be uh can you imagine that? My god,

2660
02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:04,120
Speaker 2: that would be scary. All Right, we gotta take a

2661
02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:07,080
Speaker 2: quick too. We'll come back. We'll take a look at

2662
02:19:07,080 --> 02:19:11,400
Speaker 2: the weekend from a betting standpoint to break it all down.

2663
02:19:11,480 --> 02:19:15,879
Speaker 2: The brain will join us, and uh, we'll suss out

2664
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:18,520
Speaker 2: some picks for you for the Final four with a

2665
02:19:18,560 --> 02:19:21,039
Speaker 2: fellas Jason Fitz Anthony gar I got it right here

2666
02:19:21,320 --> 02:19:23,120
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

2667
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:26,920
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2668
02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:30,320
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2669
02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:34,520
Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2670
02:19:34,680 --> 02:19:35,320
Speaker 4: listen live.

2671
02:19:36,320 --> 02:19:42,000
Speaker 2: All right, fellas from the taire raq dot com studios.

2672
02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:48,800
Speaker 2: They don't forget coming up after us. Countdown presented by

2673
02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:54,320
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2674
02:19:54,480 --> 02:20:00,240
Speaker 2: noon Eastern. It's Countdown, that's right, We'll get all you're

2675
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:04,200
Speaker 2: ready for all the action for Saturday and Sunday. Now,

2676
02:20:04,320 --> 02:20:07,640
Speaker 2: Joorny got to take a look at sports this weekend

2677
02:20:07,720 --> 02:20:12,640
Speaker 2: in Final four from a betting standpoint. Our man the brain,

2678
02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:18,120
Speaker 2: Good morning, Brain, Good morning buddy. How are you good?

2679
02:20:18,400 --> 02:20:22,640
Speaker 2: Good good good Fitzy Ivy crack it up, man. He

2680
02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:25,000
Speaker 2: had a rat issue this morning.

2681
02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:28,039
Speaker 3: In the right, I'm sitting in a conference room by myself,

2682
02:20:28,040 --> 02:20:30,040
Speaker 3: all right, at the Media Hotel in San Antonio. By

2683
02:20:30,040 --> 02:20:31,680
Speaker 3: the way, They've done a great job of coming in

2684
02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:34,520
Speaker 3: to clean up and everything. But I'm by myself in

2685
02:20:34,600 --> 02:20:36,879
Speaker 3: the room, and all of a sudden, the chair moves. Now,

2686
02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:38,920
Speaker 3: you know, that's all I see. You know, I'm sitting

2687
02:20:38,959 --> 02:20:40,960
Speaker 3: here over here on the corner. I just see a

2688
02:20:41,080 --> 02:20:43,920
Speaker 3: chair move. I'm in the room by myself, reasonable conclusion,

2689
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:47,000
Speaker 3: reasonable conclusion either a ghost or a rat, like it's

2690
02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:48,400
Speaker 3: got to be one of the two things, only to

2691
02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:51,320
Speaker 3: find out that a ceiling tile had fallen out, hit

2692
02:20:51,400 --> 02:20:53,720
Speaker 3: the chair and just exploded all over the floor. They

2693
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:55,480
Speaker 3: came in last segment, cleaned it up. They're doing it.

2694
02:20:55,760 --> 02:20:59,000
Speaker 3: I really appreciate them for everything they've done to give

2695
02:20:59,040 --> 02:21:01,240
Speaker 3: me this opportunity to do our show. But I certainly

2696
02:21:01,320 --> 02:21:03,360
Speaker 3: decided that I was going to die. Like whether it

2697
02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:05,840
Speaker 3: was a rat that brought the ceiling tile down or

2698
02:21:05,879 --> 02:21:08,320
Speaker 3: whether it was a ghost in the room, Either way,

2699
02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:13,320
Speaker 3: that feels like it leads to me dead. Oh man, man,

2700
02:21:13,920 --> 02:21:16,520
Speaker 3: I've given you the beginning of Final Destination nine right here.

2701
02:21:16,600 --> 02:21:20,080
Speaker 3: This is gold. Y'all start writing it. Let's go get it.

2702
02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:25,480
Speaker 3: I get it, as I pointed out, and Brain, I

2703
02:21:25,520 --> 02:21:27,800
Speaker 3: don't know. You're you're much you know, manlier than I am.

2704
02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:31,280
Speaker 3: But as I pointed out, Anthony had an actual like

2705
02:21:31,480 --> 02:21:34,040
Speaker 3: animal of any sort falling down on the table, I

2706
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:36,720
Speaker 3: would have immediately soiled myself and run out of the room,

2707
02:21:36,800 --> 02:21:39,960
Speaker 3: which then would require me to leave the entire country

2708
02:21:40,040 --> 02:21:42,440
Speaker 3: because everybody would have seen me running through the lobby

2709
02:21:42,520 --> 02:21:45,840
Speaker 3: of the Media Hotel at the final four soiled pants

2710
02:21:45,920 --> 02:21:48,160
Speaker 3: at all, So like the only conclusion is I retired

2711
02:21:48,200 --> 02:21:49,800
Speaker 3: to Mexico tomorrow just.

2712
02:21:50,080 --> 02:21:52,959
Speaker 5: Like sadly, like I would be like using you as

2713
02:21:53,000 --> 02:22:01,200
Speaker 5: my bodyguard. I am, let's go, like I need help.

2714
02:22:02,040 --> 02:22:05,960
Speaker 3: Oh that's amazing. As I was leaving, my friend, I

2715
02:22:05,959 --> 02:22:07,960
Speaker 3: would remind you of one important thing. I don't have

2716
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:10,040
Speaker 3: to outrun the rats. I just have to outrun you

2717
02:22:10,400 --> 02:22:12,280
Speaker 3: as long as I can outrun you. Get it, you

2718
02:22:12,400 --> 02:22:13,120
Speaker 3: can be rat food.

2719
02:22:13,760 --> 02:22:14,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I get it.

2720
02:22:14,879 --> 02:22:15,280
Speaker 2: I get it.

2721
02:22:15,640 --> 02:22:17,480
Speaker 5: I'll trust it. I'm way worse than you. I have

2722
02:22:17,640 --> 02:22:19,960
Speaker 5: like a deep fier, like a deep like I'm fucking

2723
02:22:20,080 --> 02:22:23,920
Speaker 5: like deep deep tier of like of like rodents like

2724
02:22:24,160 --> 02:22:26,680
Speaker 5: rat those kind of things like I can't even tell you.

2725
02:22:27,240 --> 02:22:29,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I just the thought of it gets me

2726
02:22:29,800 --> 02:22:33,560
Speaker 5: like worked off. So yeah, I get it. I understand it.

2727
02:22:34,400 --> 02:22:35,240
Speaker 5: Weirdly respect it.

2728
02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:39,920
Speaker 3: Anthony has never worked too less. I know we got

2729
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:41,680
Speaker 3: to get to gambling stuff. But let me just quickly

2730
02:22:41,720 --> 02:22:44,080
Speaker 3: say my thing is crickets. I don't take on crickets

2731
02:22:44,120 --> 02:22:45,960
Speaker 3: because they jump and I can't tell where they're jumping,

2732
02:22:46,280 --> 02:22:48,880
Speaker 3: like like a roach or a spider. I'm bigger than it.

2733
02:22:49,040 --> 02:22:50,960
Speaker 3: I can I can walk quickly, I can squish it.

2734
02:22:51,080 --> 02:22:54,039
Speaker 3: It's dead. I'm good with that. A cricket like I've

2735
02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:56,120
Speaker 3: had standoffs with some of the crickets in the South

2736
02:22:56,160 --> 02:22:57,880
Speaker 3: that are huge. And I'm just standing there and I'm like, look,

2737
02:22:57,920 --> 02:23:00,720
Speaker 3: I'm not moving until you dictate which way I'm going, Like,

2738
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:02,880
Speaker 3: I'm backing up so you can't jump on me. Like,

2739
02:23:03,160 --> 02:23:05,560
Speaker 3: oh my god. Another ceiling fan just fell our ceiling

2740
02:23:05,600 --> 02:23:07,640
Speaker 3: ceiling tap. Oh my god. I can't make this up.

2741
02:23:07,800 --> 02:23:10,960
Speaker 3: Another ceiling title just fell in the same room. This is,

2742
02:23:11,320 --> 02:23:13,560
Speaker 3: this is I'm telling you, the rats are coming for me. Boys,

2743
02:23:13,640 --> 02:23:15,520
Speaker 3: and tell my dogs I love them. Spread my ass.

2744
02:23:15,400 --> 02:23:19,440
Speaker 5: Anthony, Anthony, Anthony, tell me what's X flyers coming after him?

2745
02:23:19,520 --> 02:23:19,800
Speaker 2: Right now?

2746
02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:23,400
Speaker 5: You get that right? Ken Linzman?

2747
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was nickname was the rat, the flyer by

2748
02:23:27,959 --> 02:23:31,600
Speaker 2: the name of Kenny Linzman. Oh my god. That's great,

2749
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:35,280
Speaker 2: It's great, you're in. I love it. All right, let's

2750
02:23:35,320 --> 02:23:38,879
Speaker 2: get let's get to this. Uh this incredible five four

2751
02:23:39,760 --> 02:23:43,880
Speaker 2: All right, I'm pumped up, man. Let's start on with

2752
02:23:44,320 --> 02:23:48,560
Speaker 2: Auburn and Florida and how you shuss.

2753
02:23:48,320 --> 02:23:52,920
Speaker 5: It anything again to me? This game in a lot

2754
02:23:52,959 --> 02:23:55,920
Speaker 5: of ways. To me comes down to how you handicap

2755
02:23:56,400 --> 02:23:59,600
Speaker 5: what you saw right at the end of that game.

2756
02:24:00,160 --> 02:24:02,280
Speaker 5: Are you saying an Auburn team that you think that

2757
02:24:02,400 --> 02:24:05,440
Speaker 5: Johnny Broom's going to be relatively okay? Are you saying

2758
02:24:05,480 --> 02:24:08,560
Speaker 5: it Johnny Auburn led team where you're like, you know what,

2759
02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:10,920
Speaker 5: he didn't look good when he came back. He couldn't

2760
02:24:10,959 --> 02:24:13,720
Speaker 5: raise his arm. What do we got going here? Because

2761
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:16,760
Speaker 5: to me, if Broom was completely healthy, I thought this

2762
02:24:16,840 --> 02:24:19,840
Speaker 5: line would probably come in at nothing happened on my

2763
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:21,480
Speaker 5: I thought the line of probably coming at Florida by

2764
02:24:22,080 --> 02:24:25,360
Speaker 5: one pick them to Florida by one max one and

2765
02:24:25,400 --> 02:24:28,760
Speaker 5: a half, but certainly no more than that. I think

2766
02:24:28,840 --> 02:24:31,680
Speaker 5: there's a tax for the Johnny Broom injury that they're

2767
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:33,880
Speaker 5: kind of saying, all right, is he healthy? Is he

2768
02:24:33,959 --> 02:24:38,920
Speaker 5: not healthy? Until I see he's healthy, I can only

2769
02:24:39,440 --> 02:24:43,400
Speaker 5: only only lean Florida in this game, because if he's

2770
02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:46,600
Speaker 5: not right, I'll be very surprised if they can beat

2771
02:24:46,760 --> 02:24:49,640
Speaker 5: this Florida team of Florida Anthony, it's not been great

2772
02:24:50,120 --> 02:24:53,280
Speaker 5: in this tournament. Kennecticut had them on the ropes. Text

2773
02:24:53,320 --> 02:24:56,960
Speaker 5: is Tech that MAT's an all time loss. They had

2774
02:24:57,040 --> 02:24:59,760
Speaker 5: them beat a beat can be down nine with them

2775
02:24:59,800 --> 02:25:01,640
Speaker 5: minute and they have to go and they just they

2776
02:25:01,800 --> 02:25:04,400
Speaker 5: just faltered it at the highest level. So this has

2777
02:25:04,520 --> 02:25:07,880
Speaker 5: not been a dominant Florida team in this tournament. I

2778
02:25:07,959 --> 02:25:10,160
Speaker 5: think they can be beaten. Auburn has clearly been a

2779
02:25:10,200 --> 02:25:13,280
Speaker 5: team that can be beaten these last few weeks and

2780
02:25:13,320 --> 02:25:16,720
Speaker 5: then even into the tournament. But again, I'm looking always

2781
02:25:16,760 --> 02:25:18,320
Speaker 5: live at these things. I want to see how Johnny

2782
02:25:18,320 --> 02:25:21,000
Speaker 5: Broom looks. If he looks like he's healthy, I have

2783
02:25:21,160 --> 02:25:24,680
Speaker 5: no problem backing Auburn live that there, you know, if

2784
02:25:24,720 --> 02:25:26,240
Speaker 5: it looks like if that's the right thing to do.

2785
02:25:26,400 --> 02:25:29,640
Speaker 5: But if he's not looking right and he looks compromised.

2786
02:25:30,160 --> 02:25:32,680
Speaker 5: Bright absolutely looked at that Florida regardless of what the

2787
02:25:32,720 --> 02:25:35,680
Speaker 5: line is, because I think without him healthy, I think

2788
02:25:35,760 --> 02:25:37,240
Speaker 5: Florida could get the serious margin.

2789
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:42,160
Speaker 3: So I guess in my mind, where's the line on

2790
02:25:43,040 --> 02:25:44,640
Speaker 3: some of the things that we're talking about here in

2791
02:25:44,680 --> 02:25:47,080
Speaker 3: San Antonio, Like Florida. Yes, they haven't looked their best,

2792
02:25:47,080 --> 02:25:49,240
Speaker 3: but they're battle tested. That's a great cliche we used

2793
02:25:49,240 --> 02:25:52,000
Speaker 3: to use. And then Walter Clayton Junior's come up big

2794
02:25:52,040 --> 02:25:55,240
Speaker 3: in so many amazing is there is there a moment

2795
02:25:55,320 --> 02:25:57,640
Speaker 3: here where any of that gives you pause on it

2796
02:25:58,520 --> 02:26:02,720
Speaker 3: just because like spending the Florida difficulties to a positive instead.

2797
02:26:02,400 --> 02:26:06,320
Speaker 5: Of a negative, well not necessarily. Again, when I say

2798
02:26:06,320 --> 02:26:08,800
Speaker 5: their difficulty has been a positive, no, I really wouldn't

2799
02:26:08,800 --> 02:26:11,360
Speaker 5: say that, because again I've seen a Florida team that

2800
02:26:11,480 --> 02:26:15,840
Speaker 5: to me again like really like Yukon outplayed them for

2801
02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:18,920
Speaker 5: the bulk of that game, and again Texas texasy Like

2802
02:26:19,160 --> 02:26:21,880
Speaker 5: I mean that was again an all time defeat and

2803
02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:27,920
Speaker 5: not a good way. So look again, I for me,

2804
02:26:28,120 --> 02:26:30,200
Speaker 5: the key to this game comes down the room. If

2805
02:26:30,280 --> 02:26:32,960
Speaker 5: Room plays and it is right, these games be a

2806
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:34,760
Speaker 5: really good game. It it's to be a really good,

2807
02:26:34,840 --> 02:26:38,240
Speaker 5: competitive close game. If Broom is as I say it

2808
02:26:38,320 --> 02:26:40,280
Speaker 5: compromise and does not look like the player of the

2809
02:26:40,400 --> 02:26:44,840
Speaker 5: year candidate with super Flag that he is, I would

2810
02:26:44,879 --> 02:26:48,720
Speaker 5: be surprised if Auburn can win this game with their

2811
02:26:48,800 --> 02:26:52,480
Speaker 5: best player, their all world player not being at his best.

2812
02:26:52,600 --> 02:26:55,039
Speaker 5: I think Florida will over forty minutes show that they

2813
02:26:55,080 --> 02:26:57,400
Speaker 5: are the better team. If Room is compromised, as I said,

2814
02:26:58,120 --> 02:27:02,520
Speaker 5: watch the game. If Room looks like he is relatively healthy, okay, great,

2815
02:27:02,720 --> 02:27:04,800
Speaker 5: I can you know go on from that perspective. But

2816
02:27:04,800 --> 02:27:06,960
Speaker 5: if he does not look right, I'm definitely gonna have

2817
02:27:07,000 --> 02:27:10,480
Speaker 5: a looking towards the Florida side throughout because to me,

2818
02:27:10,959 --> 02:27:12,920
Speaker 5: that is the key for everything. So look, if I

2819
02:27:12,959 --> 02:27:14,800
Speaker 5: hadn't pick this game, would be Florida for me because

2820
02:27:15,080 --> 02:27:17,000
Speaker 5: I just don't trust Brooms Salt.

2821
02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, I'm infroniced that you guys,

2822
02:27:20,320 --> 02:27:24,080
Speaker 2: because I like Florida regardless. I love Right, I love

2823
02:27:24,120 --> 02:27:27,320
Speaker 2: the kid, but I like Florida regardless. I think this

2824
02:27:27,520 --> 02:27:30,279
Speaker 2: is their day where they put up that their complete

2825
02:27:30,320 --> 02:27:33,840
Speaker 2: game they would haven't played. And how many times have

2826
02:27:33,959 --> 02:27:38,959
Speaker 2: we seen a team cheat death in this tournament? When

2827
02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:44,039
Speaker 2: they cheat death, then they respond right now, they responded

2828
02:27:44,040 --> 02:27:48,920
Speaker 2: against Maryland because Maryland plays five guys but death. I

2829
02:27:49,480 --> 02:27:52,560
Speaker 2: think that they come in everybody knows they're getting they're

2830
02:27:52,560 --> 02:27:55,119
Speaker 2: getting questioned, and I think they come in and play

2831
02:27:55,520 --> 02:27:56,320
Speaker 2: an elite game.

2832
02:27:57,720 --> 02:28:00,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, it's very possible. They played at the this

2833
02:28:00,400 --> 02:28:03,760
Speaker 5: year in Auburn in Florida. I think lead coast to

2834
02:28:03,840 --> 02:28:07,120
Speaker 5: coast look down the stretch. There's no question Florida is

2835
02:28:07,160 --> 02:28:11,000
Speaker 5: better than Albourne. I really can't be argued. The last

2836
02:28:11,680 --> 02:28:13,760
Speaker 5: twenty five percent of the season I don't think anyone

2837
02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:16,440
Speaker 5: can argue Florida is a better team than Auburn. Now

2838
02:28:16,520 --> 02:28:18,480
Speaker 5: you go at the beginning of the season, you know

2839
02:28:18,640 --> 02:28:21,120
Speaker 5: Auburn seemingly would have been the number one team right

2840
02:28:21,160 --> 02:28:24,400
Speaker 5: there with Duke. But as I said, Anthony again, ye look,

2841
02:28:24,400 --> 02:28:29,200
Speaker 5: if you like Florida with Broom being healthy, then to me,

2842
02:28:29,280 --> 02:28:31,320
Speaker 5: that's like a great play for Florida in a free role.

2843
02:28:31,400 --> 02:28:34,480
Speaker 5: Since where if Broom's healthy, you still like them anyway? Great,

2844
02:28:34,560 --> 02:28:36,760
Speaker 5: if Broom's compromised, you have a line where this line

2845
02:28:36,760 --> 02:28:40,600
Speaker 5: should be at least three points higher. So to me, again,

2846
02:28:40,640 --> 02:28:42,680
Speaker 5: if you like the Florida sign, even if Broom is healthy,

2847
02:28:43,120 --> 02:28:44,160
Speaker 5: it's a great bet.

2848
02:28:45,600 --> 02:28:47,960
Speaker 3: So well, let's get to the other game. Then where

2849
02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:51,039
Speaker 3: are you on Duke Houston? A game that I keep

2850
02:28:51,080 --> 02:28:53,520
Speaker 3: saying looks like a defensive battle. I'll be honest, I've

2851
02:28:53,560 --> 02:28:56,160
Speaker 3: been saying loudly, hammered the under in my right brain.

2852
02:28:56,280 --> 02:28:57,920
Speaker 3: Am I tell me I'm right because I've been saying it,

2853
02:28:58,000 --> 02:28:59,520
Speaker 3: So I just want you to affirm that I'm right.

2854
02:29:00,360 --> 02:29:02,120
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's funny. If it's the total is sitting

2855
02:29:02,160 --> 02:29:04,400
Speaker 5: around one thirty six and a half one thirty seven,

2856
02:29:04,440 --> 02:29:05,800
Speaker 5: you can get The highest I see on the board

2857
02:29:05,840 --> 02:29:07,840
Speaker 5: right now is one thirty seven. Yes, I would be

2858
02:29:07,920 --> 02:29:10,600
Speaker 5: on the under Look, we're talking about low possession game

2859
02:29:10,680 --> 02:29:14,800
Speaker 5: here right in the sixties in my opinion, and look

2860
02:29:15,160 --> 02:29:18,520
Speaker 5: as those Tony Anthony. Houston is just a different kind

2861
02:29:18,520 --> 02:29:20,200
Speaker 5: of team now, Duke, it's Duke the most talent team

2862
02:29:20,240 --> 02:29:22,680
Speaker 5: in this tournament, Yes they are. Is Duke probably the

2863
02:29:22,760 --> 02:29:27,320
Speaker 5: best team, Yeah, they probably are, But it's stylistically matchup wise,

2864
02:29:27,720 --> 02:29:30,880
Speaker 5: Houston is I think the probably the one team and

2865
02:29:31,000 --> 02:29:32,800
Speaker 5: probably the only team here I would actually now pick

2866
02:29:32,840 --> 02:29:35,680
Speaker 5: against potentially to beat Duke, and I did bet them

2867
02:29:36,120 --> 02:29:39,440
Speaker 5: taking five and a half points. You could still get

2868
02:29:39,560 --> 02:29:41,640
Speaker 5: five widely available, and there are some five and a

2869
02:29:41,720 --> 02:29:45,960
Speaker 5: halds out there as well. And to me, it's just

2870
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:50,000
Speaker 5: a game that I personally think against style wise, the

2871
02:29:50,080 --> 02:29:52,120
Speaker 5: way that they play, I think Houston can muck it

2872
02:29:52,240 --> 02:29:54,760
Speaker 5: up and keep this game close. Do I think Duke's

2873
02:29:54,760 --> 02:29:55,680
Speaker 5: the most likely winner?

2874
02:29:56,240 --> 02:29:56,440
Speaker 2: Yes?

2875
02:29:56,959 --> 02:29:58,800
Speaker 5: But do I think this game will be very close,

2876
02:29:59,040 --> 02:30:01,480
Speaker 5: very tight, probably go down in the last minute one

2877
02:30:01,520 --> 02:30:03,320
Speaker 5: way or the other. Yeah, I do, And you get it.

2878
02:30:03,360 --> 02:30:04,840
Speaker 5: You can take still from looking at her plenty of

2879
02:30:04,879 --> 02:30:08,480
Speaker 5: five fans out there, I do like Houston getting FIREMAMF.

2880
02:30:08,560 --> 02:30:10,640
Speaker 5: I bet Houston getting FIREMAMF. I think this game is

2881
02:30:10,680 --> 02:30:13,560
Speaker 5: will be very close, very tight, and I think this

2882
02:30:13,680 --> 02:30:17,360
Speaker 5: is both Duke does get By this game, I will

2883
02:30:17,400 --> 02:30:19,640
Speaker 5: feel pretty good that they will win the national championship,

2884
02:30:19,680 --> 02:30:22,400
Speaker 5: regardless if it's Florida or Album. I think this is

2885
02:30:22,480 --> 02:30:25,760
Speaker 5: like style wise, they probably haven't seen much of before

2886
02:30:25,800 --> 02:30:28,160
Speaker 5: a team like this, and houstonn't look ill getting credit

2887
02:30:28,200 --> 02:30:31,640
Speaker 5: that really well coached. They had a tough schedule too,

2888
02:30:31,720 --> 02:30:33,760
Speaker 5: they played in the Big Twelve and obviously got through

2889
02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:37,240
Speaker 5: it basically unscathed. I think Houston keep this one close.

2890
02:30:39,080 --> 02:30:42,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love Houston, man, I do. So let's let's

2891
02:30:43,040 --> 02:30:46,760
Speaker 2: talk about this aspect of it because fifty and I

2892
02:30:46,840 --> 02:30:49,880
Speaker 2: were batting this around the dome aspect of it, right,

2893
02:30:50,760 --> 02:30:54,320
Speaker 2: So Houston played in a dolm at Lucas Oil and

2894
02:30:54,400 --> 02:30:58,240
Speaker 2: which was your road game because Purdue was the out

2895
02:30:58,280 --> 02:31:03,440
Speaker 2: of face Purdue and so they played in that dome.

2896
02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:09,040
Speaker 2: Now it means something. Shooting in a dome is a

2897
02:31:09,200 --> 02:31:13,320
Speaker 2: big deal. It does mess with you, Anthony.

2898
02:31:13,360 --> 02:31:15,720
Speaker 5: I agree with you. And at the fifties point about

2899
02:31:15,720 --> 02:31:19,120
Speaker 5: the under Anthony, it lends itself to unders as well, right,

2900
02:31:19,360 --> 02:31:22,440
Speaker 5: because it's funny. I'm there. I forget the first time

2901
02:31:22,480 --> 02:31:26,240
Speaker 5: I went to one of those domes and think a

2902
02:31:26,320 --> 02:31:28,320
Speaker 5: basketball college basketball setting, and I was like, I remember,

2903
02:31:28,360 --> 02:31:30,520
Speaker 5: I was a young, younger kid, and I was like, wow,

2904
02:31:30,959 --> 02:31:32,360
Speaker 5: this must be a pain of me, you know what,

2905
02:31:32,640 --> 02:31:35,840
Speaker 5: to like just score here and see the depth perception

2906
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:38,560
Speaker 5: and in the football kind of stadiums, it was just

2907
02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:43,240
Speaker 5: a different a different atmosphere, and you know, it's a

2908
02:31:43,280 --> 02:31:45,720
Speaker 5: little bit of an adjustment period again, and obviously they're

2909
02:31:45,720 --> 02:31:48,720
Speaker 5: all great players, but it just takes a little bit

2910
02:31:49,040 --> 02:31:50,480
Speaker 5: just for you to be off a little bit for

2911
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:53,000
Speaker 5: things to just not be quite to quite go your way.

2912
02:31:53,640 --> 02:31:57,320
Speaker 5: And I do think that is a legitimate point, Anthony.

2913
02:31:57,320 --> 02:31:59,480
Speaker 5: I think it makes a lot of sense. Now we'll

2914
02:31:59,520 --> 02:32:01,160
Speaker 5: look against from the Houston point of view. The one

2915
02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:03,640
Speaker 5: thing this Shuston team in the past, Anthony has not

2916
02:32:03,720 --> 02:32:06,280
Speaker 5: been able to do at this level is shoot to three. Okay,

2917
02:32:06,480 --> 02:32:08,800
Speaker 5: this year the shooting forty percent from three and with

2918
02:32:09,000 --> 02:32:11,920
Speaker 5: us on sharp Crier, they have three guys forty two

2919
02:32:12,040 --> 02:32:14,600
Speaker 5: forty two, forty five from three point lands. So that's

2920
02:32:14,640 --> 02:32:17,720
Speaker 5: why I personally think again that this Houston team is

2921
02:32:17,720 --> 02:32:19,640
Speaker 5: a little bit different than you know, we call you

2922
02:32:19,800 --> 02:32:22,040
Speaker 5: my Grandma's Houston team where they you know that they

2923
02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:24,280
Speaker 5: were going to have once you know, a certain level hit,

2924
02:32:24,360 --> 02:32:27,160
Speaker 5: they were just gone. I think they can maybe hanging

2925
02:32:27,280 --> 02:32:29,200
Speaker 5: in with this Duke team because I do think this

2926
02:32:29,240 --> 02:32:30,960
Speaker 5: team offensively is better than the teams that had in

2927
02:32:31,000 --> 02:32:31,360
Speaker 5: the past.

2928
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:37,080
Speaker 3: All right, so what what do you got before? Before

2929
02:32:37,120 --> 02:32:38,720
Speaker 3: we let you out of here because we won't talk

2930
02:32:38,720 --> 02:32:40,440
Speaker 3: to you before. Then? How does all of this play out?

2931
02:32:40,480 --> 02:32:43,480
Speaker 3: What do we get on Monday? And who wins? Again?

2932
02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:48,520
Speaker 5: It goes likely final is probably going to be again

2933
02:32:48,560 --> 02:32:52,400
Speaker 5: I think Mike, I have a hunch, honestly, Houston is

2934
02:32:52,400 --> 02:32:54,480
Speaker 5: going to win. But it's just the hunch and I

2935
02:32:54,640 --> 02:32:56,040
Speaker 5: and I and I like them. I bet them with

2936
02:32:56,120 --> 02:32:59,200
Speaker 5: the points, but Duke's probably the most likely winner of

2937
02:32:59,240 --> 02:33:01,440
Speaker 5: the game. But I will if Duke gets through Houston,

2938
02:33:01,879 --> 02:33:03,880
Speaker 5: I will probably have a bet on mem regardless who

2939
02:33:03,920 --> 02:33:05,960
Speaker 5: they play. And if Houston wins, I'll probably have a

2940
02:33:06,000 --> 02:33:08,160
Speaker 5: bet on them regardless who they play. I think the

2941
02:33:08,240 --> 02:33:09,560
Speaker 5: winner this game is gonna win the tournament.

2942
02:33:10,440 --> 02:33:13,720
Speaker 2: Wow, that's wild, that's awesome. Hey, break do be fair?

2943
02:33:13,720 --> 02:33:16,640
Speaker 2: You gonna minute? Can you hang on? Because she's got

2944
02:33:16,720 --> 02:33:19,920
Speaker 2: a roll and I want to ask you about some baseball.

2945
02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have other basketball stuff hanging. Uh, my brother,

2946
02:33:25,240 --> 02:33:26,879
Speaker 2: get out of that room safely.

2947
02:33:28,200 --> 02:33:30,360
Speaker 3: Well, I'll try. I mean, the ghost might take me down.

2948
02:33:30,400 --> 02:33:32,879
Speaker 3: I don't know the ceiling, and.

2949
02:33:32,959 --> 02:33:37,240
Speaker 2: If I can fly there, I would come there right now.

2950
02:33:37,920 --> 02:33:38,280
Speaker 2: All right.

2951
02:33:38,320 --> 02:33:40,800
Speaker 3: You see, I don't make it. Tell Annabella lover and

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02:33:40,879 --> 02:33:41,840
Speaker 3: spread my ashes a day.

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02:33:41,920 --> 02:33:44,000
Speaker 2: I got at a bell. She'll be living with us.

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02:33:44,040 --> 02:33:46,320
Speaker 2: She'll be fine. She'll be with your boys, all right,

2955
02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:50,520
Speaker 2: and then I'll be sprinkling your ass of allegiance. Okay,

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02:33:50,680 --> 02:33:53,280
Speaker 2: perfect brother, all right, I got you man. You're my

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02:33:53,400 --> 02:33:56,640
Speaker 2: main man. You know that. All right? Such, brother, have

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02:33:56,760 --> 02:33:59,840
Speaker 2: a safe trip. Hi, Fellas, we'll come back. And just

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02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:05,840
Speaker 2: a moment right here on Fox Sports Radio, it's his

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02:34:05,959 --> 02:34:12,920
Speaker 2: fifty song man Fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano wrapping one

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02:34:13,080 --> 02:34:18,600
Speaker 2: up on a Final four Saturday. I gotta thank Mighty

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02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:23,840
Speaker 2: Mark and Bree Bree great great staff. They're the best.

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02:34:24,040 --> 02:34:27,400
Speaker 2: We love him, our production staff. Bree's a great producer,

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02:34:27,560 --> 02:34:32,040
Speaker 2: Mighty Mark, great sound engineer. Every week they hang with us.

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02:34:34,000 --> 02:34:40,160
Speaker 2: All right, Brain is back with me, and I just

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02:34:40,240 --> 02:34:41,800
Speaker 2: want to put that we got some we got some

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02:34:41,920 --> 02:34:46,240
Speaker 2: baseball stuff, dude, because fifty is not the biggest baseball guy.

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02:34:46,280 --> 02:34:53,720
Speaker 2: He indulges me. Right. Dodgers Phillies last night, awesome stuff.

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02:34:54,320 --> 02:34:58,560
Speaker 2: The two Titans of the National League ends on a replay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it was great. First of all. Finally the Dodgers

2971
02:35:02,800 --> 02:35:04,400
Speaker 5: lose a game, right, but.

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02:35:05,400 --> 02:35:08,480
Speaker 2: Lose, and the Brains finally win on the same night

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02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:09,680
Speaker 2: they win nothing.

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02:35:10,320 --> 02:35:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, well they would they would do. I was loving

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02:35:12,240 --> 02:35:15,520
Speaker 5: enjoining the Brays going on seven. You know, it's interesting

2976
02:35:16,240 --> 02:35:19,320
Speaker 5: from a Phillis point of viewing. Anthony Lozardo, Okay, this

2977
02:35:19,400 --> 02:35:21,920
Speaker 5: has always been a guy. This is to me the

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02:35:21,959 --> 02:35:26,120
Speaker 5: opposite when they signed Typhon Walker. Lazardo is a guy.

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02:35:26,440 --> 02:35:30,120
Speaker 5: I remember it was. He was twenty twenty two. No, yea,

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02:35:30,200 --> 02:35:34,040
Speaker 5: he was twenty twenty two on the Marlins. He was

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02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:38,240
Speaker 5: like legitimately a twenty twenty great he was.

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02:35:38,400 --> 02:35:39,160
Speaker 2: He was.

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02:35:39,440 --> 02:35:41,760
Speaker 5: He was a guy with a great k rate. Yeah,

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02:35:41,959 --> 02:35:43,400
Speaker 5: looked like he had a chance. He was on a

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02:35:43,440 --> 02:35:46,560
Speaker 5: better team than me last year for whatever, I don't

2986
02:35:46,560 --> 02:35:49,480
Speaker 5: know what happened exactly last year, if k rate went down,

2987
02:35:49,879 --> 02:35:51,480
Speaker 5: didn't have the same kind of year. But he's still young.

2988
02:35:51,480 --> 02:35:53,320
Speaker 5: Guy's only twenty something years old, But this is a

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02:35:53,360 --> 02:35:54,680
Speaker 5: guy I thought I had a chance to be a

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02:35:54,879 --> 02:35:56,640
Speaker 5: cy young kind of player.

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02:35:57,040 --> 02:35:57,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

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02:35:58,080 --> 02:36:00,800
Speaker 5: To get a guy like that, okay at twenty seven

2993
02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:06,600
Speaker 5: years old, to me was what probably the most underrated

2994
02:36:07,000 --> 02:36:09,400
Speaker 5: under the radar move and all of midjor league baseball.

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02:36:09,720 --> 02:36:11,400
Speaker 5: It was kind of yeah, for the world, it was

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02:36:11,440 --> 02:36:15,280
Speaker 5: almost a blurb. Phillys acquired He's as Lozardo and to me,

2997
02:36:15,480 --> 02:36:18,240
Speaker 5: I'm like, wow, again, was it Juan Soto? Heck no,

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02:36:18,360 --> 02:36:20,000
Speaker 5: I'm not going that far, but.

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02:36:21,680 --> 02:36:22,520
Speaker 2: Completely yeah.

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Speaker 5: The Dodgers, for example, they got the Japanese guy Susaki,

3001
02:36:26,440 --> 02:36:29,880
Speaker 5: which was a massive, massive, massive mood move. But you

3002
02:36:29,959 --> 02:36:32,320
Speaker 5: know what, for this year, for the twenty twenty five season,

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02:36:32,920 --> 02:36:35,120
Speaker 5: I absolutely think Lizardo could be as good as him.

3004
02:36:35,160 --> 02:36:36,800
Speaker 5: And that was a move that was talked about like

3005
02:36:36,879 --> 02:36:40,280
Speaker 5: it was the biggest move ever. And I'm you know,

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02:36:40,440 --> 02:36:42,440
Speaker 5: no one talked about the Phillies getting Lizardo. So I

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02:36:42,520 --> 02:36:45,120
Speaker 5: thought that was a great move for the Phillies. And

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02:36:45,160 --> 02:36:48,160
Speaker 5: there for again two starts, he's looked the part. So

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02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:50,400
Speaker 5: but I think that was something because I think Nola

3010
02:36:50,560 --> 02:36:52,840
Speaker 5: is in my opinion from the Phillies point view is

3011
02:36:52,920 --> 02:36:54,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if we're gonna see those dominant Aaron

3012
02:36:54,680 --> 02:36:58,039
Speaker 5: Noley years anymore. So I thought that was a very

3013
02:36:58,240 --> 02:37:01,360
Speaker 5: very important get. And I think Christian Chanchez has a chance, Anthony,

3014
02:37:01,600 --> 02:37:03,160
Speaker 5: which you know me and you've talked about before, to

3015
02:37:03,680 --> 02:37:06,720
Speaker 5: maybe move into that next category where he steps up.

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02:37:07,480 --> 02:37:10,720
Speaker 2: It's a great show then, because the Mighty Dodgers are

3017
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:16,440
Speaker 2: incredible obviously, and so you have the two teams along

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02:37:16,480 --> 02:37:17,959
Speaker 2: with the Padres. I don't want to leave the Padres

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02:37:17,959 --> 02:37:20,880
Speaker 2: out because I think the Padres are legit too. But

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02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:23,920
Speaker 2: you know, Phillis Dodgers are the two best teams in

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02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:27,040
Speaker 2: the National League. It's a it's a They're a great story.

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02:37:27,560 --> 02:37:29,320
Speaker 2: Do you have any baseball plays today?

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02:37:30,560 --> 02:37:33,440
Speaker 5: I do, Anthony. I actually like this play quite a bit.

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02:37:34,720 --> 02:37:36,800
Speaker 5: I did last night. You can still get it though,

3025
02:37:36,959 --> 02:37:38,879
Speaker 5: although the juice is gone off. But either way, I'm

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02:37:38,959 --> 02:37:42,320
Speaker 5: recommending it either way. Jacob the gram but again, when

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02:37:42,360 --> 02:37:44,240
Speaker 5: we's healthy, you don't need me to tell you he's

3028
02:37:44,240 --> 02:37:48,160
Speaker 5: pretty good at baseball. Taj Bradley is one of my favorite.

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02:37:49,360 --> 02:37:50,959
Speaker 5: Him and Hunter Green are like two guys I think

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02:37:51,000 --> 02:37:53,400
Speaker 5: are very underrated that have a chance to emerge. Is

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02:37:54,280 --> 02:37:57,080
Speaker 5: really top guys this year. They're going to each other

3032
02:37:57,120 --> 02:38:00,200
Speaker 5: today TOADJ. Bradley against Jacob the Graham love the five

3033
02:38:00,240 --> 02:38:02,600
Speaker 5: inning line? Why the five inning line, because I don't

3034
02:38:02,600 --> 02:38:04,119
Speaker 5: think either of those guys are going to much past

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02:38:04,160 --> 02:38:06,880
Speaker 5: five innings once of those guys exit the hill. No

3036
02:38:07,040 --> 02:38:09,120
Speaker 5: interest in this total. I've been under four and a half.

3037
02:38:09,520 --> 02:38:12,280
Speaker 5: I got it laying pretty low. Juice, still laying about

3038
02:38:12,280 --> 02:38:14,200
Speaker 5: a dollar forty. I still love that bet.

3039
02:38:14,360 --> 02:38:15,400
Speaker 2: Not like it. I love it.

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02:38:15,879 --> 02:38:18,280
Speaker 5: If you have to take under four laying you know,

3041
02:38:18,400 --> 02:38:21,920
Speaker 5: dollar fifteen. Totally fine with that as well too. To

3042
02:38:22,080 --> 02:38:24,280
Speaker 5: me again, I thought this total should be three and

3043
02:38:24,360 --> 02:38:27,640
Speaker 5: a half, so we had four. It's still, in my opinion,

3044
02:38:27,680 --> 02:38:29,360
Speaker 5: a great play. Four and a half of in my opinion,

3045
02:38:29,440 --> 02:38:33,560
Speaker 5: is a phenomenal play. Love under Dodgers, I'm sorry, Dodgers

3046
02:38:33,680 --> 02:38:37,039
Speaker 5: under Jacob de Gram TAJ Bradley, Texas Rangers against Ye

3047
02:38:38,040 --> 02:38:41,120
Speaker 5: Raise love that bet, Anthony. You know it's funny. I'm

3048
02:38:41,120 --> 02:38:43,120
Speaker 5: gonna hurt your feelings a little bit on this bet.

3049
02:38:44,200 --> 02:38:47,440
Speaker 5: We just talked about the Phillies, right, and Aaron Nole

3050
02:38:47,520 --> 02:38:49,640
Speaker 5: is going today now. Aaron Nola Anthony in the past,

3051
02:38:49,680 --> 02:38:54,800
Speaker 5: as you know, being a big silly guy. Seconds he struggles,

3052
02:38:54,879 --> 02:38:58,240
Speaker 5: he struggles early in the season. I liked the Zaki

3053
02:38:58,560 --> 02:39:01,880
Speaker 5: and a pick against him. I think Sazaki wins this one.

3054
02:39:02,440 --> 02:39:04,080
Speaker 5: I think he should have been more of a bigger favorite.

3055
02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:06,920
Speaker 5: I don't trust no against the Dodgers oly this season.

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02:39:07,360 --> 02:39:10,800
Speaker 5: NBA nas reed eleven and that points. Loved the over

3057
02:39:10,879 --> 02:39:12,800
Speaker 5: forty nine and twenty six to the over. Yeah, weage

3058
02:39:12,879 --> 02:39:13,520
Speaker 5: fourteen and a half.

3059
02:39:13,600 --> 02:39:15,560
Speaker 2: You had to Robins last night, great pick.

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02:39:16,200 --> 02:39:18,120
Speaker 5: Still care of me last night? Yep, Rockets still care

3061
02:39:18,160 --> 02:39:20,000
Speaker 5: of me last night. So they went out right. So

3062
02:39:20,080 --> 02:39:21,200
Speaker 5: that's that's what I got for you, brother.

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02:39:21,560 --> 02:39:24,200
Speaker 2: That's good. Stuffy bro Lissa. Enjoy your weekend. Enjoy the

3064
02:39:24,240 --> 02:39:26,560
Speaker 2: Final four. It's gonna be awesome.

3065
02:39:27,320 --> 02:39:29,000
Speaker 5: Appreciate you, but I'll see you next week.

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02:39:29,040 --> 02:39:32,520
Speaker 2: Be good, guys, you'd be good, all right, everybody that's

3067
02:39:32,560 --> 02:39:36,920
Speaker 2: gonna do it for us. Enjoy the basketball, baby, See

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02:39:36,920 --> 02:39:37,680
Speaker 2: you next Saturday.