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Speaker 1: He is Ralph ams An aka rain Man, the man

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna start today.

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Speaker 1: We had so Obviously, Dion Sanders is a big polarizing

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Speaker 2: His son Shardor Sanders.

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Speaker 1: And for some reason that if you criticize Dion in

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Speaker 3: But we would have to educate.

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Speaker 1: He's unwilling to do the fundamentals that it is that

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, don't go too far right here, Joe.

437
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 3: Like the actual issue at hand, though, Trinidad Chamblist, is

438
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: he gonna have a shot because this here he got

439
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: the NCAA denied him again, Right, But that doesn't have

440
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 3: a bearing on what the judge specifically is doing. He's

441
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: testifying right now. He said he was one hundred and

442
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 3: seventy six pounds as a sophomore Fair. He's testifying. I'm assuming,

443
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 3: under oath, under penalties of some type of perjury, that

444
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 3: his Fair estate head coach told him he'd be medically

445
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: red shirted.

446
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: And apparently that there is some corroboration about that too.

447
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

448
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: So I.

449
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: But to go back to the judge thing for a second.

450
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: People are gonna be stuck on, Oh, it's the patriarchy

451
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: and this and this. No, man, there are times where Okay,

452
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: my wife runs our Amazon company, delivering one hundred thousand

453
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: packages a week during peak season. She is extremely busy,

454
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: and so I gotta pick up more of the slack

455
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: with picking kids up. She's gotta handle payroll, getting, make

456
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: sure everybody eats and all of that stuff, and then

457
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: make sure she has a little bit of time to

458
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: just relax a little bit. And that doesn't mean that

459
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm not busy too, but when it's time for me

460
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: to be on the road, I gotta leave every weekend

461
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: to go to the studio, go interview, coaching this and that.

462
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: Guess who's picking up the slack then she is. And

463
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: sometimes does she complain about it?

464
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

465
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes do I complain about it during peak season? Yes,

466
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: But then I remember.

467
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 2: This will all balance out.

468
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: Because I know I married a person that has my

469
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: back too, But people don't always understand the sacrifice that

470
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: it takes. Now, forget college players for a second, I

471
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: want to tackle this as far as pros too, because

472
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: you just had the Minnesota Vikings. Their general manager got

473
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: fired and some people pointed to oh, because he took

474
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: fraternity leave and all of this stuff. Okay, look, and

475
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: I know that this is probably going to be unpopular, Ralph.

476
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: When you are a professional athlete, or you're in the

477
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: professional athlete business as a significant intricate person to the activities, right,

478
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: you are an entertainer, Okay, you must expect like, you

479
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: are very well paid to sacrifice some of your physical health.

480
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 1: So when NBA guys are like, I don't know if

481
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm being be able to walk in with I forty

482
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: or being paid you're making thirty million dollars, like, shut up, Like,

483
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't want you to play injured, but I do

484
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: expect you to play hurt. It's part of the deal.

485
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: It's part of the contract with the fans. There's a

486
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: reason why I don't want to hear Lebron James complaining

487
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: about playing on Christmas for all of these seasons. Yes,

488
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: it is inconvenient. Yes, what it sucked to not be

489
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: with your family every year. I one hundred percent understand that.

490
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: I get it. I get the frustration. You are right

491
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: to feel frustrated, but you also are an entertainer, and

492
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: you signed up to be an entertainer, and you have

493
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: to willing, Like, you can't want everything. At the same time,

494
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: you do have to be willing to sacrifice time with

495
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: your family, holidays, birthday stuff like that to be able

496
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: to live the lifestyle that you want. And now, granted,

497
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: there is a little bit of a balance for it,

498
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: but I will tell you this, if I were the

499
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: owner of a team, am my quarterback or my wide receiver,

500
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: running back. Anybody had a baby during the season, and

501
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: it's not complications. I'm not talking about when somebody has

502
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: a high risk pregnancy or the health of people isn't

503
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: doing great.

504
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: All of this stuff.

505
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: I do not expect you to take paternity leave. I

506
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: gotta get a new quarterback, then I do. I'm gonna

507
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: be honest with you, And it's not that there's anything

508
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: wrong with that. It's just we are working toward a

509
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: goal here and it's not what regular people are doing.

510
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: So if you can't sign up for what regular people

511
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: are doing, then I don't know what to tell you now.

512
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: In in the NBA, if somebody misses the regular season

513
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: game for the birth of a kid, I'm not worried

514
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: about it as much. NFL stakes are a little bit heightened.

515
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: I would like to you to try to do what

516
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: most people try to do in the situation is either

517
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: induced during the week or something or something like that

518
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: like that, which is a sacrifice right for the life

519
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: you live. But if but if we got to do

520
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: it on game game day and you need to leave

521
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: the game.

522
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: Early, go ahead, get get about of here.

523
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: But I do think that there's sacrifice that must that

524
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: that are reasonable sacrifices that are expected to be made,

525
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: that are beyond the sacrifices that normal people are expected

526
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: to make.

527
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Speaker 3: I it's just not the real world. It's just not.

528
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: It is and it'll never be and you have to

529
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: be able to recognize that without removing the humanity of

530
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: the people who participate in this grand fantasy world that

531
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: has been created. Like, yeah, there's still human beings and

532
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: there's nothing more important than you know, bringing a little

533
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: baby into this world. But it's just it just doesn't

534
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't apply to the person who works in manufacturing

535
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: or trade stocks or as a school teacher or anything

536
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: like that. And so, you know, I get that people

537
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: are going to be mad because they're always going to

538
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: apply every situation to their own upbringing value system and

539
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: stuff like that. Some people just like to be upset.

540
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: But this Joe Judge thing, I could not tell you

541
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: what the importance was of bringing this up at all,

542
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: But I think the overarching thing that he's trying to

543
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: say is that this is a really important thing that

544
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: they're doing that takes full on dedication. And if the

545
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: whole point was to illustrate that you have to be

546
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: one hundred percent there and that Trinidad Chambliss was not

547
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: when he was at Farris State, which is why he's

548
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: deserving of a medical red shirt. That makes sense, But

549
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: oh boy, the topic of conversation for for sure, be

550
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: careful what you have to say about this around your

551
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: significant other, I suppose, or just if you get asked

552
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: your opinion on this, just be like, I didn't I

553
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: didn't see it.

554
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking And if you are a.

555
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Like if you're an athlete and you're getting with somebody,

556
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: that this is a conversation that you should probably have.

557
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, but that's the issue. We're talking about young

558
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: people having babies. They're really thinking about today.

559
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

560
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: And what Joe Judge I think it's important that Joe

561
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: Judge says is like, Hey, you actually do have to

562
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: think two steps ahead. I know you're tired, I know

563
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: you're thinking about right now, but that light at the

564
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: end of the tunnel that might be a freight train. Like,

565
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 3: so just let me let me let you know what

566
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: happens to him if he's not one hundred percent at practice,

567
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: Maybe he gets injured, Maybe food comes off your table

568
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: like you gotta factor some of these things in yep.

569
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to another serious issue. BYU

570
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: has a situation where they're leading wide receiver. Parker Kingston

571
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: has been charged with first degree felony rape and he

572
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: is he's been in jail without bail. And this allegedly

573
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: and investigation that began in February twenty twenty five after

574
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: the alleged victim of then female twenty years old reported

575
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: a sexual assault to Saint George Regional Hospital and then

576
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Speaker 1: BYU put out a statement They've become aware of the

577
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: arrest of Parker Kingston. The university any allegation very seriously

578
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: and will cooperate with law enforcement. Due to federal and

579
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: university privacy laws and practice for students, the university will

580
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: not be able to provide additional comment. So we want

581
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: to tackle this from from from two separate angles. The

582
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: first angle is this, and I guess I'll address this.

583
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: This is a year.

584
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: It went from year from the investigator with you know,

585
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: February twenty twenty five to February twenty twenty six where

586
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: the rest happened. After the Jake Ratz lived case where

587
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: but his was a civil case alleging rape, which is different.

588
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: I believe that b Yu will that the people of

589
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: Utah that before they brought this case or brought charges

590
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: because of the retslift situation. This is a very prominent

591
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: BYU player because some people would ask why this took

592
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: so long, and I initially was like they probably had

593
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: to double triple, quadruple check and that the prosecutors had

594
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: to probably go through significantly more hurdles than an ordinary situation.

595
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: Unless this young lady is a family member of a

596
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: prominent family in Utah or something like that, this don't

597
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: look good for Parker Kingston to me.

598
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: So that's the first angle. The second angle of.

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00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: This is is BYU's honor code in the modern era.

600
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: So their honor code is essentially you are not supposed

601
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: to have sex while you are unless you are married.

602
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: If you are found out, you can be suspended, kicked

603
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: out of school. Like there's various things.

604
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: That can happen.

605
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: Same thing with alcohol, marijuana, you know, any illicit drugs

606
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: anything like that. But now mind you you have kids

607
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 1: on BYU's campus, and I'm gonna give you a term

608
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: that you can search, but not in front of your kids.

609
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: It's called soaking.

610
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: Come on, man, we gotta be honest around here. If

611
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: you ain't heard of it, it's a it's a it's

612
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: a real thing. I'm not even gonna explain to you

613
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: what it is. I'll let the Internet tell you. But Ralph,

614
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: do you believe that BYU's honor code is realistic or enforceable,

615
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: especially when they're trying to compete on the highest levels

616
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: in college football, in college basketball, and you're gonna be

617
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: getting significantly more non Mormon kids on campus.

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Speaker 3: I think it has to be. I think this is

619
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Speaker 3: what sets you apart if you're BYU. I don't think

620
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: that you bend your values for anyone or anything. And

621
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: these are opportunities, like with Jake Ratzlith, to show that

622
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: this is something that you take seriously, that wearing the

623
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: WHY on your chest, on your helmet, that that matters.

624
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: And there's going to be a lot of people who

625
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: don't take that seriously because it's college and college kids

626
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: are going to do what college kids do. But as

627
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: an aside from that, obviously sexual assault has nothing to

628
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 3: do with an honor code regardless. But if somebody and

629
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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of BYU alumni make this point.

630
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: If somebody is taking the honor code seriously, they're never

631
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: going to find themselves in one of these situations. I

632
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: think it's if a school wants to have a value

633
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 3: system that differentially differentiates themselves from other people, that it

634
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: supports the outline of the of the religion that that

635
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: college represents, then they are well within their right to

636
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: not only have that code in place, but to enforce it.

637
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: And that you know, there's been issues at b YU

638
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: my entire life. There's this twenty years ago, back when

639
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: you're in the NFL, George, they have the c j

640
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 3: i U. You know issues they you know, they've they've

641
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 3: multiple times had to kick people out. They had a

642
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: basketball prominent basketball player arrested for DUI and marijuana possession,

643
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: I think in November, right before the season. You know,

644
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: and and you this is a thing you're gonna have

645
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: to deal with when you when you're trying to level

646
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: up and talent and you bring in people from different backgrounds.

647
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: But they know the deal. It's not like they're not

648
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: walked through this. And there's gonna be a lot of

649
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: people who say, yeah, but you know, we we know

650
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: b YU. They'll they'll do what they can for these

651
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: athletes to make sure that they don't that this stuff

652
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: doesn't come out. But at the same time, like, I

653
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: don't think everybody's unified on that. I think that there's

654
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 3: a lot of people affiliated with BYU. This is very

655
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: very serious and very very important to them. When it

656
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: comes to Parker Kingston, I'm I'm definitely like, and this

657
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: happens every time, and I don't know why it continues

658
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: to be shocking, But me in the timetable, the timetable

659
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: of these investigations for victims and for people let's say

660
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: it's a false accusation, Okay, not in this particular case,

661
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: but just in any particular case, the timetable is a

662
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: it's a complete nightmare. The idea that they an't sit

663
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: down until June. In this case, they don't sit down

664
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: for a follow up interview until June, and they don't

665
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: get DNA testing back, and it's eleven and a half

666
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: months before you're able to you know, if this went

667
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: down the way that it's being alleged, to have to

668
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 3: wait a year and then see that this person lead

669
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: BYU and receiving see them flaunt their engagement at a

670
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: basketball game, and have it posted by the university just

671
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 3: a few days ago, to have BYU come out and

672
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 3: make a statement saying, hey, we just got made aware

673
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: of his arrest. And that language is really important because

674
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: they're not saying that they weren't aware that this accusation

675
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: existed over the course of the year. All of this

676
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: is such a nightmare for people who are victims of

677
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: sexual assault. And even if they did what you said,

678
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: and they dotted every eye and they crossed every te

679
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: for that to be a year, no wonder, so many

680
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: people refuse to go along with prosecution.

681
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: Well, I think that that's where the hard part and

682
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: where the rub comes into because for people who have

683
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: had false allocations made against them, when it's made public

684
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: and everything, initially, you're now painted as a pariah. And

685
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: even after exoneration, if it is clear and it has

686
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: found somebody lied, there's still a little bit of a

687
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: stain on you.

688
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: So I think it's just the.

689
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: The because so much stuff as he said she said,

690
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: or he said he said, or she said she said,

691
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: there is like the absence of video evidence makes it

692
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: makes it tough, and people are always going to question it,

693
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: even even if the video come come comes out like

694
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: you you still it still leaves a mark.

695
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. I all I know is that I think B

696
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: why you, because anybody affiliated with B why you could

697
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 3: point to the honor code and say no, following this

698
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: is going to bring great value to your life and

699
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: keep you out of situations. And you know, I don't

700
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 3: think I I don't think that this is a time

701
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: to turn around and address or abandon the honor Code

702
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: of your BYU. I think this is a time to

703
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: point to it and be like, if you came to

704
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: this university and you said you were going to take

705
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 3: this seriously and you actually followed through with your word,

706
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: you're not going to be in a situation like this now.

707
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: And yeah these are college and yeah, reality is reality.

708
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: But well see here man. People will tell you all

709
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: the time.

710
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: And I'm a big where your values are your values,

711
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: and they are not bad values. Like like if you're like,

712
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: if you say your value value is listen, I don't

713
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: trust black people, that's not a value, you know what

714
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean. But if you're saying, you know, premarital sex

715
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: or alcohol, abstaining from alcohol and this and that, and

716
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: those are the values of your institution and the things

717
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: that it.

718
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: Was founded upon.

719
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: You got to stay with those because there are clearly

720
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: plenty of people who want to sign up to do it.

721
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: Now.

722
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: Whether now the punishments may may need a little bit

723
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: of a tinkering, but the but the idea that it

724
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: should just be ignored, Yeah, nah, yeah, I don't think

725
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: that that makes any sense to me. All right, next

726
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: thing up that we got to talk about, Ralph, do

727
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: you realize that there is apparently a butterfly effect between

728
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Alabama winning six championships with Nick Saban?

729
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: I didn't even think about it before today, but now

730
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 3: it's all I can think about. Okay, how close were

731
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: you to me ending up.

732
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 5: A Miami Dogs?

733
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: I mean yeah close.

734
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 7: I mean on paper, that was an obvious decision. It

735
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 7: was Miami all the way. Miami had Nick Saban. They

736
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 7: had just come off the nine and seven seas where

737
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 7: they won like the last seven in a row, so

738
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 7: they kind of had it figured out. Defense was lights out,

739
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 7: Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor. I loved all their co staff.

740
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 7: They were running the same offense that we were running.

741
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 7: I'm sitting there eating dinner on Wayne Heizinger's yacht. He's

742
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 7: there at dinner talking about, Hey, we're gonna go play

743
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 7: golf in Scotland every summer with Dan no state income tax.

744
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 7: I'm like, dude, this is a paper Miami here I come.

745
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

746
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 7: And then on the flip side, you got New Orleans

747
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 7: six months post Katrina, some unknown head coach named Sean Payton.

748
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 2: Right is this guy right?

749
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 7: So again on paper, it's like this is so obvious.

750
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 7: But I'm not leaving anything to chance. I'm gonna go

751
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 7: and I'm gonna give each one like it's fair opportunity.

752
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 7: Like the Miami trip was amazing, with the exception of

753
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 7: they put me through the ringer like six hours of

754
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 7: these medical testing because I was only like eight weeks

755
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 7: postop on an eight month rehab, so I just I

756
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 7: got this feeling of like doubt. And then their doctors

757
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 7: were the ones who told Saban, we think he's got

758
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 7: a twenty five percent chance of ever coming back and

759
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 7: playing again.

760
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: Witch out.

761
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 7: And I go to New Orleans and it's like, you

762
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 7: are our guy. We're building this offense around you. They

763
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 7: did everything they could to kind of roll out the

764
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 7: red carpet despite all the circumstances. I mean, No Orleans

765
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 7: was still destroyed. The epic story is shown.

766
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: So the Miami Dolphins found a way to screw up

767
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: their quarterback situation. Sounds like a story with with a

768
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: with a Herbert and Touur right.

769
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: Ownership.

770
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: One one oneted one thing, it coached one in another,

771
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: and Alabama was the beneficiary.

772
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: It really sounds to me like Drew Brees is saying

773
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: that he would have gone to my Like, yeah, New

774
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: Orleans was special, but he'd have gone to Miami if

775
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 3: if Day didn't express doubts that that he was going

776
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 3: to be good to go. Yeah, which means that we

777
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 3: probably get uh hell of a Nick Saban run in Miami, Florida.

778
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: Yep. And and and then not even be open.

779
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy to think about that a Purdue quarterback

780
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 3: who held an acc quarterback at arm's length and held

781
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 3: down that Charger's starting quarterback job to the point where

782
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: they had to they had to make a move and

783
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: take a step toward their future. That a Purdue quarterback

784
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: is the most important football player in Alabama history.

785
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: Yep.

786
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: And speaking of Alabama history, I believe that Alabama fans,

787
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: and we didn't talk about this pre show, Alabama fans

788
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: need to reset their expectations, they are no longer going

789
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: to be going forward absent, absent a real hard salary cap,

790
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: like Alabama needs to be the program that is yelling

791
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: at the NCAA, that is yelling at Greg Sankie, yelling

792
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: at Tony Pettiti, yelling at Jim Phillips and everybody else.

793
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: We need collective bargaining because if Alabama is not in

794
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: a situation where there is a hard cap on player

795
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: salaries and revenue sharing money, and there's not the lear

796
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: field workarounds and Adidas and Nike workarounds and everything else

797
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: that allow you to get up to like a forty

798
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: million dollar roster like on three just did a great well.

799
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Actually on three aggregate essentially aggregated and expanded on an

800
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: article from a guy from Texas Tech about how they're

801
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: using the other outside money, like they're directing like ten

802
00:48:52,680 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: million dollars from their partners, their advertising partners into nil

803
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: for the kids, when in reality, college kids have no

804
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: value for.

805
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: The most part, like no nil value.

806
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: They have pay for play, They have a lot of

807
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: pay for play value, but very little nil value. And

808
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: Alabama is not one of the halves in that situation.

809
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: So if you're continuing to play this game. Alabama, they're

810
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: a top fifteen program in that if because their name

811
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: and everything else that carries a lot less weight in

812
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 1: recruiting than it used to. And they don't have money

813
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: like Georgia, I'm sorry, like Texas and Texas, A and

814
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: M and Ohio State, Oregon, they don't have money like that.

815
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: Smu even they don't even have money like that. So

816
00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: this idea, they don't have Indiana money. Oh wow, So

817
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: Alabama fans need to reset their expectations, Ralph.

818
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: Well, according to UH Paul Finebaum, Alabama fans need to

819
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: brace for UH their athletic director Greg Byrne canceling the

820
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: Ohio State series because he doesn't have faith in Kaitlin

821
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 3: de Boor. What a wild thing to put out there.

822
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm out, I'm out. I'm out, Ralph. I

823
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: want to end the show now because I can't. I

824
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: can't take this.

825
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: I you sound like Alabama allegedly. What are we doing?

826
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: What if? I'll tell you this, Jeorgane. If Paul Finebaum

827
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: is making this up, that's he's not healthy.

828
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: He's not making it up.

829
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: Do you think that he's embellishing his justification for why

830
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: he thinks Alabama's going to back out of.

831
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: This game about Kaylin Deboor or because it can hurt

832
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: their college football playoff chances. That means you're worried about

833
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: losing to them boys up north.

834
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: I thought you were big bad Alabama. I thought you

835
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: were the school of Bear Bryant. He's turning over in

836
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 2: his grave right now.

837
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: I did read an Alabama I did read an Alabama

838
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: bloggers justification for doing so. He said that Paul Feinbaum

839
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 3: is probably right about the game getting canceled, but he's

840
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: wrong in his reasoning. The real reason is that Greg

841
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: Sanki allowed himself to get bullied by Tony Pettiti into

842
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: a nine game SEC schedule, and so now the SEC

843
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: has to adjust because it's unfair to them to do

844
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 3: the hard thing of playing the same amount of conference

845
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: games that everybody else does.

846
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 2: They even though Big ten is a better conference.

847
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: The Big Ten is a better conference now, but hey,

848
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: we still gotta play nine games.

849
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: Shut up.

850
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: Don't make the argument. The SEC will always make the

851
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 3: argument that the tax is paid at the bottom half,

852
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 3: that the bottom half of the SEC is the gauntlet

853
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: that no other conference can boast of course, you have

854
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 3: plenty of numbers to share and have shared about how

855
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: the ACC has a winning record had to head to

856
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 3: the last three years. Obviously, the Big Ten has three

857
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: consecutive national champions. You believe the SEC is as top

858
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: heavy as any conference. It's just the Top had traditionally

859
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: been the best top.

860
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: Yep yep, and the Top ain't the best top no more.

861
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: The Big Ten has the best tops right now. I

862
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: look at this, and you look at Alabama's schedule in

863
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: twenty seven and twenty eight when these games are supposed

864
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: to be played in twenty seven, they only have eleven

865
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: games on the schedule right now, and the other game

866
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: is Marshall right now in their non conference. So who

867
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 1: are they gonna fill the Ohio State with. They're not

868
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna go fill it with like, you know, uh Nebraska,

869
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: who is not as good but still a Big Ten team.

870
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: They're not gonna go fill it with you know, uh

871
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: North Carolina State. They're not gonna do that. They're gonna

872
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: go fill it with like, uh Southern miss or the

873
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: Citadel or something like that, which is as fans instead

874
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: of justifying everything, say mm, you're raising sicket season ticket

875
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: prices give me good games.

876
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: Games.

877
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: It's the idea that the championship is the only thing

878
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: that makes fans happy. No, fans are invested in winning

879
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: programs and printing something that they can be proud about

880
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: even if they lose. Yes, of course you're gonna have

881
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: fans talk is and you should be firing this, this, this, Yes,

882
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: but the reality is you need to win the games

883
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: you are supposed to win.

884
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: They're taking this Texas, Oh well.

885
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: The reason why we missed out in the coach Football

886
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: players because the Ohio State game. Nahs, because you lost

887
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: the Florida Food That's the game that got you up

888
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: out of there. And then you lost to Texas A

889
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: and M oh no, no, no, I'm sorry. They beat Tech

890
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. But and then you lost another game.

891
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: That's why you're out of the college football playoffs. So yeah,

892
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: it's gotta be about the fan first and foremost above

893
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: anything else. And until they get it, they'll keep giving

894
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 1: you the same old bs when it's gotta be about

895
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: the games, not about the championships.

896
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: Even though we want the championships.

897
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 3: It feels like the fans just do whatever, like they

898
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: just support whatever the college does. Yes, if I'm an

899
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: Alabama fan, and they canceled the Ohio State series. I'm

900
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 3: gonna get online and argue with people why it's the

901
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 3: right thing to.

902
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: Do when you wanted to see the game anyway.

903
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I wanted to see the game anyway. But

904
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 3: I gotta, I gotta, you know, falling, falling party. Yeah.

905
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 3: I hate that. You should be able to just come

906
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 3: out and be like, no, we're Alabama, we want Ohio

907
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 3: State exactly.

908
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: All right. The next thing up.

909
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 3: All right, George, we actually get to talk some PAC twelve?

910
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: Can you name all Can you name all eight PAC

911
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: twelve schools?

912
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 3: No, Utah State, President State, Boise State, I know them, okay,

913
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 3: but now I'm this is man.

914
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: This is like all of them have state in them.

915
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: All eight have state.

916
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: This PAC twelve, all eight of them. Yes, North Dakota

917
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: State messed up by going to the Mountain West, then

918
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: yes they belong in the PAC twelve.

919
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: I guess I'll tell you the way everybody knows Boise State,

920
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State, Oregon State,

921
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: Utah State, Washington State, and Texas State.

922
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 3: That's a fun little This very much does feel like

923
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 3: when somebody marries into a family, takes a famous person's

924
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 3: last name, gets divorced, and then passes that name on

925
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: to the kids they have by somebody else. Like this

926
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 3: is not technically the lineage that I'm most excited about.

927
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 3: Shout out to Washington State Oregon State for holding down.

928
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: I guess that did just introduce kind of a new

929
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: way to have a twelve game schedule, and I wanted

930
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: to get your reaction to it, George, because it is

931
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: it is kind of interesting the way that they decided

932
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: to put this together. They got a round robin, so

933
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: everybody plays each other, all right, and then they have

934
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: four non conference games, and then what they're gonna do

935
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 3: is they're going to play an eighth conference game that

936
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 3: doesn't count as a conference game. It's a home and

937
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 3: home flex matchup m so it's a non conference game

938
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 3: versus a packed opponent. And we we've seen non conference

939
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 3: games against conference opponents. Arizona, Kansas State, I think did

940
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: a did a home and home that didn't actually count

941
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: toward Big ten twelve play because that was that.

942
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was our schedule.

943
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, what what do you what do you You're

944
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: gonna play the same team twice in one year, which

945
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: kind of has like an NFL flavor to it. In

946
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 3: Washington State, Oregon State already been doing this.

947
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's smart. I think that this is

948
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: smart because it's gonna give them an opportunity to create

949
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: some matchups in case teams are ranked that they can

950
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: give you another data point to potentially get into the

951
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff if they need to, so they can leave.

952
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: So from my understanding, they created a schedule already, so

953
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: there is a a flex game that week, and then

954
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: the four teams have home games already and they can

955
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: change any of the four away games.

956
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 3: Interesting, So if Boise State's eleven and zero in San

957
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 3: Diego State's ten and one, they could just match those

958
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: two teams up.

959
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: Yes, huh wait, as long as the home teams remain

960
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: the same, So I think it's.

961
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: It is. As long as San.

962
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: Diego State, Colorado State, Utah State, and Washington State are

963
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: playing at home, they can match them up against any of.

964
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh wait, hold on, yes, yes, wait, no, no, no

965
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: no no sorry.

966
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: As long as boys Fresno State, Oregon State, and Texas

967
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: State are home than any of then then they can

968
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: match them up against any of the teams that are

969
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: on the road.

970
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 3: I think that's so they get the projected home teams

971
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: can't play each other. I'm seeing that now.

972
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: So oh god, I got confused on the teams, but

973
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: but you get them.

974
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah. So so they're saying that they want

975
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 3: to give Utah State, Colorado State, Fresno State, and Washington

976
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: State a guaranteed home game, which means that Oregon State,

977
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: San Diego State, Texas State, and Boise State are like

978
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: floating opponents this year and then they'll get the guaranteed

979
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 3: home game next year. So in this flex game, you

980
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 3: can't have Utah State play Colorado State this year because

981
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 3: they both have to have a home game, which means

982
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 3: they also can't play each other next year. I think

983
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 3: I'll probably just wait for them to tell me what

984
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 3: the games are going to be. Yeah, but it is interesting.

985
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I actually think that this is something that

986
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve and the ACC should probably consider as well,

987
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: because those are the teams that are getting.

988
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: Did you see their championship game is not going to

989
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,479
Speaker 3: be neutral site.

990
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

991
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be at the higher seed, right Yeah. Yeah,

992
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that, but I think the Big

993
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: Twelve and the ACC need to potentially adopt this as

994
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: well if it works out well, because what was the

995
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: knock on the ACC this year? Oh, this team didn't

996
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: have this, This team didn't have that, And you can

997
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: give them another data point to be able to win

998
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: and get into the College football playoffs, to increase their

999
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: strength to schedule to all of that, and I think

1000
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: that that actually might be beneficial for those two conferences.

1001
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: I do not believe the SEC and the Big Ten

1002
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: will will do this because they're not gonna want but

1003
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: they might like if. Like imagine if at the end

1004
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: of the season, Vanderbilt instead of playing Tennessee, they could

1005
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: have put them against Texas again at the end of

1006
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 1: the season. Now, that could boaster either one's resume because

1007
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: they're playing a top team instead of an unranked team.

1008
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 3: It's cool that you have the Pac twelve just kind

1009
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 3: of out here lead blocking with experimental stuff. We'll see,

1010
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 3: we'll see if it has an impact or if they

1011
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 3: just end up adding a couple more teams anyway, and

1012
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: it becomes a moot point. But as you brought up

1013
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 3: in your Tuesday Live and I highly recommend watching the

1014
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 3: George Rece series College Football Show every Tuesday that you're

1015
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 3: going to see these FCS teams try to jump up

1016
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: because it's the last life rafts off the Titanic. At

1017
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,959
Speaker 3: this point, as we move to potential super conferences, which

1018
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 3: I hate, but that's the direction things are going, you're

1019
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 3: gonna have to be in the discussion in order to

1020
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 3: get one of those spots. So North Dakota State had

1021
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: to make their move now or never?

1022
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: Oh for sure? Uh, what's up? What's up next? Ralph?

1023
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: With your with your boy Connor.

1024
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: My boy Connor Stallion. I would I would of the

1025
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 3: two of us be the more likely to probably have

1026
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 3: a manifesto, But I do not claim that man. So

1027
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 3: Connor Stallions appealed his show cause penalty, and you know

1028
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 3: show cause if if how much does the show cause

1029
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 3: matter anyway? Jesse Mintor a job, Yeah, but you can,

1030
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 3: I mean that you can always jump up to the NFL.

1031
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 3: Jesse Mentor is the head coach of the Ravens, and

1032
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 3: he just hired your boy Prentice Guilt and they both

1033
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: just either have show causes or came off show causes.

1034
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 3: So you know now that some of these guys that

1035
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 3: they got away with some stuff got the jobs up

1036
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 3: at the higher level. Antonio Pierce had the show cause

1037
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 3: he was head coach of the Raiders. The Giants I

1038
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 3: think interviewed him for a position or something like that.

1039
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 3: So you know, if you can get into the NFL,

1040
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: I guess it doesn't matter so much. You can just

1041
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 3: bide out your time. But Connor Stallions actually filed an

1042
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: appeal to have his tossed out. And what's really weird

1043
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 3: about this is he was arguing that there is an

1044
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 3: irregular and prejudicial way in which the case started and

1045
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 3: that he didn't have the opportunity to test the credibility

1046
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: of the confidential sources whose information contributed to the case

1047
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 3: against him, and he said that that irreparably prejudiced mister

1048
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 3: Stallions and negatively influenced the NC DOUBLEA subsequent investigation of

1049
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 3: the case. The fascinating thing about this, especially if you

1050
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 3: know anything about Connor Stallions, is the NC DOUBLEA denied

1051
01:04:54,880 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: it because he didn't He didn't take the appealc seriously.

1052
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 3: He didn't actually go into detail about what it was

1053
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 3: he was appealing, so they probably would have thrown it

1054
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 3: out anyway, but it gave them grounds to just say,

1055
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 3: you didn't elaborate on any of this. And if there's

1056
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 3: one thing that Connor Stallions does, we know he elaborates,

1057
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 3: So yes, why you will? He leaves no stone unturned.

1058
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 3: Why would he half ask this appeal, George?

1059
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, because especially because I would hire Connor Stallions.

1060
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: If I were a college football coach, I would probably

1061
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: hire Connor Stallions. We would have to have an extensive

1062
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: conversation about where the boundaries are. And if I didn't

1063
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: feel confident in that that he was on the right

1064
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: side of things and wanted to walk to straight and narrow,

1065
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: then I would never hire them. But I would consult

1066
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: with him for show.

1067
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 3: Sure's a movie.

1068
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 2: See he gets the details.

1069
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: There's a movie, and I know the two people in.

1070
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: I think it might be the movie where where Vince

1071
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 3: Vaughn and Jennifer Aniston break up. I think it was

1072
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 3: called The Breakup, the most uncomfortable movie I've ever watched

1073
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: in my life. But Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau, the

1074
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 3: director who's in movies. Sometimes they're having a conversation and uh,

1075
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 3: and Vince Vaughn's like, I don't want you to do

1076
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 3: anything about this. Yeah, And John Fevrou's like, oh, I

1077
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 3: definitely won't and then he like nods yes, and he's like,

1078
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 3: don't worry about it, I'll handle it. And he's like, no,

1079
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 3: I literally don't want you to do anything. And he's like, oh,

1080
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: I'm definitely not going to you don't need to worry

1081
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 3: about it. I got it. Like that's how I feel

1082
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 3: like any conversation with Connor Stallions would go. We'd be like, hey,

1083
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 3: I just need you here with your work ethic dedicated

1084
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 3: to like game planning for the upcoming opponent. I don't

1085
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 3: want you to do anything illegal. Connor Stown's like I

1086
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 3: hear you, and you're you don't have to worry. You're

1087
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 3: not even gonna know what I'm up to. Like, no,

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01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think you're hearing me, Connor,

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01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 3: I need you to do things by the book, not

1090
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: your book, the book and he's like, I got you.

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01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 3: I hear you, and then he winks like.

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01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: No, no, I got you.

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01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: I hear yeah, Okay, so I do. The reason I

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01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 3: wanted to bring up this up is because it gave

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01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 3: me a question that I specifically wanted to ask you

1096
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 3: because I know how you feel about Michigan's twenty twenty

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01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: three national championship, Knowing that Mike McDonald left and Mike

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01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 3: McDonald is now a Super Bowl winning head coach and

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01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 3: the National Football League as a defensive play caller. Knowing

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01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 3: that Mike McDonald left Michigan, Connor Stallion's got an official

1101
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 3: staff position after Mike McDonald left and Michigan got better.

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Speaker 3: Does this in any way further influence your feelings about

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01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 3: Michigan's twenty twenty three natty?

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01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: Yes, it, dude, they would Cheatahs, they was Cheatahs. I

1105
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: don't even know how there's any debate about it. And

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01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: and then they're like, well they still won after Connor left. Yeah,

1107
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: Connor was still feeding them information and he had left

1108
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: so much good information there. They had plenty of data.

1109
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: And they had a good football team too.

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 3: They didn't have a good football team. They might not

1111
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 3: have had your favorite quarterback of all time, but they

1112
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 3: they they were, They weren't good.

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01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: He's a bum.

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01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 3: They probably could have got this done.

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Speaker 1: No, Nope, nope, No, all right, what's the last that

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Speaker 1: we got today?

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01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: So the last thing, the last thing that we have

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01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: is that the Pixers set for the upcoming twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: six NFL Draft. We're going to get a lot more

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Speaker 3: into this, as we do every single year. Yeah, but

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01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 3: as it's set up right now, you had four teams

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01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 3: with the same three and fourteen record. Unfortunately, my team

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01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 3: is included in this as they often are. The Raiders

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Speaker 3: picking car thank you, thank you for that, and we

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01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 3: might end up trading Kyler for your favorite quarterback, JJ McCarthy.

1126
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna have to be a JJ McCarthy defense.

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01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: Who knows. I don't think they should do it, but whatever,

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01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 3: So you.

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01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 2: Don't think which team should do it.

1130
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a significant upgrade for Minnesota and also

1131
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: a downgrade at the same time.

1132
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 3: Kyler can't run Kevin O'Connell's offense. He needs to go

1133
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh. But that's another thing for another day. The

1134
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 3: picks are as such, The Las Vegas Raiders pick first,

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01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 3: the New York Jets pick second, Arizona Cardinals pick third,

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01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans are fourth, and the New York Giants

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01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 3: are fifth. Tell me, if you were in control of

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01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 3: all five picks, who you would.

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: Select number one?

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Speaker 1: Do do do?

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01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 7: Do?

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01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 3: Do? Do?

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01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: The Lost Vegas Raiders are on the clock. The Las

1144
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders select quarterback Indiana University Fernando Mendoza.

1145
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 2: The New York Jets.

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01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: Select offensive linemen from Miami Francis Marioga. The Arizona Amsden

1147
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: Cardinals are on the clock. I mean, I thought about

1148
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: this from for a minute because I was trying to

1149
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: find you help. I do not believe that there is

1150
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: quarterback help at number three, So I'm sorry. You may

1151
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: be stuck with Jacoby Brissette for another year, but I

1152
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: am going to draft linebacker from the Ohio State University

1153
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: Sunny Styles. Are you okay with that pick? No?

1154
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 3: Why there's Caleb Downs exists, Our Bell Reese exists. There's

1155
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 3: two Utah tackles.

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01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: I would take Sunny Stole. I love our vel Reaes.

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01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: He kind of disappeared at the end of the season.

1158
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: He is he looks like Tarzan, But I'm I was

1159
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: trying to give you a safe pick, Ralph like somebody

1160
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: who I'm sure will play well.

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01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't want mar heartbreak. Number four.

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01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:40,560
Speaker 1: At fourth in the draft, the Tennessee Titans select safety

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01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: from the Ohio State University Caleb Downs. Who's the best

1164
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: player in this draft? Come home, man, dude, there's he

1165
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: can't help Arizona as much. He's a safety. Ralph, he's

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01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: already been overdrafted at four.

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01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 3: But he's the best player in the draft.

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01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: Yes.

1169
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 1: And then at number five for the New York Giants,

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01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:13,799
Speaker 1: I was stuck Ralph because on one hand, they don't

1171
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: really need offensive linemen. Well, sorry, they don't really need tackles, right,

1172
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they don't need a tackle. And then

1173
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, quarterback. I'm not in love

1174
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: with their quarterback, but he's probably you know, like it's fine,

1175
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: So you don't need the draft quarterback. And there's not

1176
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: even a quarterback available at that point. So I decided

1177
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: for them to draft the man. But then I was like, ooh,

1178
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: they could draft David Bailey, but they got d Nz already,

1179
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: but you could use two. So I'm gonna give them

1180
01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: David Bailey from Texas Tech. My only other option was,

1181
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: like I was getting down like Spencer for or like

1182
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson or Carneal Tate. But instead of giving them

1183
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: another wide receiver, because I think that they can make

1184
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: do with what they got, I'm gonna give I'm gonna

1185
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: give them, Yeah, I'm gonna give them him.

1186
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give them.

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01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: A yeah, David Bailey, who's an absolute freak show.

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01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 3: If the Arizona Cardinals picked Sunny Styles third overall, I

1189
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 3: would get an Ohio state tattoo. That's the most insane

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01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,440
Speaker 3: thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first, people, You heard it here

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01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: first on the College Football Apostles. You guys, make sure

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01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: that you guys like, share, subscribe, get notifications, tell a

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Speaker 1: friend about the show. Peace out, Catch you guys later.