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Speaker 1: Hi, this is J C. Olmuto. Welcome to the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky.

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Speaker 2: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul

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Speaker 2: Territory Network. Hope everybody is doing well. Only a few

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Speaker 2: more days until the Super Bowl Eagles chiefs. I know everybody,

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Speaker 2: of course is super excited about that. We're excited about

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Speaker 2: at the Philly Show, but we're also excited about today's guest,

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Speaker 2: Phillies catcher j t Rio mutto you spent some time

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Speaker 2: with us the other day. JT of course all Star

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Speaker 2: Silver Slugger Gold Glover centering the fifth and final year

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Speaker 2: of his contract with the Phillies, so it's an important

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Speaker 2: year for him. It's a big year for the Phillies

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Speaker 2: who are trying to finish the job and win a

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Speaker 2: World Series. We talked to JT about all.

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Speaker 3: Sorts of different things.

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Speaker 2: We always enjoy talking to JT, Jim Rubin and I

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Speaker 2: because he's just super insightful about the game. You have

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Speaker 2: to to be cerebral about the game as a catcher,

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Speaker 2: and he certainly is that. But he also can just

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Speaker 2: put the put games into perspective, seasons to perspective. He's

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Speaker 2: always just a great guy to talk baseball with, and

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Speaker 2: we think you will.

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Speaker 3: Agree here he is JT real Muto, JT. Thank you

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Speaker 3: for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Spring training is right around the corner you live down

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Speaker 2: in clear Water, So I'm wondering, is it the gear

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Speaker 2: up feel any different, like when you're down at the

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Speaker 2: complex all the time as opposed to like somebody living

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Speaker 2: in Oregon or California or Colorado or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: You still feel in the same itch.

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Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, I'd honestly say I might feel it a

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Speaker 4: little bit more, to be honest, you know, I just

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Speaker 4: started coming down here. Maybe we bought a place I

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Speaker 4: think five years ago and started to spend in our

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Speaker 4: januaries here.

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Speaker 1: We spent earlier in the off season in Oklahoma, and then.

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Speaker 4: We come here in January, and I think just kind

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Speaker 4: of being in the training facility here and what almost

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Speaker 4: gives me more of an itch a little earlier than

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Speaker 4: I used to get it back when I was saying

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma the whole offseason. So I definite, I definitely think

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Speaker 4: it's a little different feel being here though in January

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Speaker 4: for sure.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, obviously Phillies fans are excited about pitchers

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Speaker 2: and catches next week, but before that is the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl on Sunday with the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Who do you got?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like the whole nation better be

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Speaker 4: rooting for the Eagles at this point, as good as

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs are, and I respected nobody.

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Speaker 1: Wants to see those guys win again. You know about it?

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Speaker 5: JT is a former quarterback. Do you like watching Hurts

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Speaker 5: and Mahomes? There are two really special talents.

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Speaker 4: Extremely special. Obviously, what Mahomes has done in his career incredible.

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Speaker 4: He's going to go down as one of, if not

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Speaker 4: the greatest, of all times.

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Speaker 1: So he speaks for himself.

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Speaker 4: But Jalen, I know Jalen gets them up and down

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Speaker 4: opinions from Phillies fans. But for me, I love the

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Speaker 4: way he plays it game. I mean, he doesn't make mistakes,

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Speaker 4: he manages the game. He has an incredible offensive line,

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Speaker 1: Receivers as well.

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Speaker 4: He's just a facilitator and he does a good job

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Speaker 4: not making mistakes and winning football games.

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Speaker 1: Which is the most important part of a quarterback's job.

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Speaker 6: Well, so what type of quarterback were you would you?

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Speaker 6: Would you compare yourself to my home. If would you

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Speaker 6: compare yourself to it Hurts, how would you did you

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Speaker 4: I couldn't compare myself to either one of us, first

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Speaker 4: of all, but the way I played was probably closer to.

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Speaker 4: I would say I was kind of a I was

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Speaker 4: kind of running in between, like I ran a lot.

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Speaker 4: I could throw pretty good for a high school quarterback,

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Speaker 4: but I carried the ball a lot for a quarterback

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Speaker 4: because I almost turned into a running back for half

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Speaker 1: We had more blockers when I had the ball in

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Speaker 4: There's one playoff game I had forty carries, but most

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Speaker 4: of the time it was like twenty carries or so,

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Speaker 4: and then throw the ball maybe fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Or twenty times. So I kind of did both. I

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Speaker 6: So staying on that theme, as far as your athleticism,

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Speaker 6: everybody knows how great of an athlete you are, and

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Speaker 6: we've all observed that you're into a whole ton of

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Speaker 6: different sports. I know that you are viewed on the

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Speaker 6: team as one of the best golfer. Are you the

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Speaker 6: best golfer.

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Speaker 1: On the team right now because with Utherfield left, Yes,

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Speaker 1: last year was better. Really, Oh yeah, it's like I

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Speaker 1: think he's in the pluses now. He's he's really good.

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Speaker 4: For as far as players go, I'm the best. Coughlin's

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Speaker 4: pretty good, Kayleb's pretty salty golfer. So if you throw

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Speaker 4: the coaches in there, I think it's me and Kayleb

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Speaker 4: pretty pretty close.

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Speaker 2: Well, you got close as the pin for your fantasy

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Speaker 4: It didn't do me very good because in I drafted

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Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could shaking it off the wall like Stotton.

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Speaker 2: You could have gotten Saquon if you got like the

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Speaker 2: tenth picker you know, I don't know a little bit lower.

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Speaker 3: Well that's a bummer. So you didn't win to you

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Speaker 3: didn't take advantage of the first pick, and he didn't

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Speaker 3: win the title.

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Speaker 4: No, I actually did have a pretty good season. I

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Speaker 4: think I took third, so I got some money in

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Speaker 4: the championship week. I'd scored like two hundred and seven,

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Speaker 4: so if I would have got to the championship, I

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Speaker 4: would have won.

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Speaker 1: But I ended up taking thirty.

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Speaker 3: That's always a kill.

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Speaker 4: It was a good year, though not having overall pick,

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Speaker 4: I mean that I was pretty happy with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt how.

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Speaker 5: Many guys on the team participate in that. It seems

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Speaker 5: like a great way to build camaraderie and keep keep

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Speaker 5: the chemistry going after the season ends.

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Speaker 4: Quite a few, I feel like, so there's one team

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Speaker 4: that's coaches that U should five or six coaches throw

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Speaker 4: into a team and then the rest of its all players.

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Speaker 4: Most teams have two guys. There's probably five guys with

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Speaker 4: and even the guys that aren't actually in the league,

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Speaker 4: they're easy a part of the banter in the back

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Speaker 4: and forth it goes on in the clubhouse. It definitely

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Speaker 4: brings some guys together. We always get excited for football season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, JT.

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Speaker 6: You're not one of those guys who likes to talk

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Speaker 6: you're one of the team leaders on the club. How

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Speaker 6: would you describe that and how important that is that

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Speaker 3: How important is that to you?

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Speaker 1: It's definitely important to me. I think this is a

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Speaker 4: Easy team to be a leader on, though, because I

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Speaker 4: feel like we do have a lot of leaders in

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Speaker 4: our young guys now they're not really young anymore, so

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Speaker 4: they've been around a long time, so everybody kind of

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Speaker 4: there's not you know, there's definitely leadership going on, but

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Speaker 4: there's not. You don't ever have to yell at anybody

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Speaker 4: or like really get onto guys because most guys play

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Speaker 4: So but I do take pride and trying to I'm

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Speaker 4: try to do things the right way. I try to

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Speaker 4: let my work do the talking for me and the

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Speaker 4: So but with that, I think most of the guys

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Speaker 4: does things and goes about.

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Speaker 1: It the right way.

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Speaker 3: JT. I was looking this up the other day.

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Speaker 2: If you start on opening day as expected, of course,

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Speaker 2: it would be your seventh consecutive opening day start. Part

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Speaker 2: of me is like, wow, that feels like you haven't

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Speaker 2: been there that long. But that's the second longest streak

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Speaker 2: in Philly's history. I think Mike Lieberthal had ten. You'd

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Speaker 2: be tied with Darren Dalton for seven. Has it felt

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Speaker 2: like you've been here for seven years? And how much

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Speaker 2: is your few I mean, obviously you're free agent after

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Speaker 3: How much is that.

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Speaker 2: On your mind about you know, maybe staying in Philly

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Speaker 2: beyond that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely, Uh, does not feel like it's already

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Speaker 4: I was having that conversation with my wife actually just

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Speaker 1: How long we've been in Philly.

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Speaker 4: It feels like the Marlin's over here. And it's obviously

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Speaker 4: been a fun and exciting seven years and it's gone

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Speaker 4: by really fast. As far as your second question, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, we we've obviously thought about it

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Speaker 4: we've fallen short of what we want to accomplished the

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Speaker 4: last few years, so that's definitely the forefront of my

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Speaker 4: mind right now, Jad.

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Speaker 5: I think about that Mets series. I mean, Schwarber leads

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Speaker 5: it off with a bomb places electric wheels, is electric pitch,

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Speaker 5: is a great game, and you don't finish it off.

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Speaker 5: It seemed to be such a tone setter, and then

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Speaker 5: you don't win that series and it's an early exit.

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Speaker 5: Is that still sticking with you? How long does that?

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Speaker 5: Does that stick with you through the off season? The

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Speaker 5: you know, the the quick end to really what was

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Speaker 5: a remarkable season.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it hurt when we lost the World Series, obviously,

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Speaker 4: but that one's that one almost felt a little worse

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Speaker 4: like that one's stung to me bad just the way

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Speaker 4: it happened, Like you mentioned, we had felt like with

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Speaker 4: the way Wheelers through the ball to game won, we

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Speaker 4: had a lead, we just weren't We had opportunities to

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Speaker 4: maybe we cash in a couple of those runs, take

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Speaker 4: a little pressure off our bullpen and win that first game,

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Speaker 4: the series probably goes completely differently. So, but there was

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Speaker 4: just a little moments throughout the entire series where we

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Speaker 4: and but with that we still we just weren't able

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Speaker 4: to score enough runs. So there's so many things that

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Speaker 4: we could have done better to win that series that

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Speaker 4: we weren't able to make happen. And you got to

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Speaker 4: give credit to the Mets. You know, we ran into

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Speaker 1: Baseball than we were.

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Speaker 4: So definitely stung a lot this offseason. It's something that

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Speaker 4: you know, probably won't start sting until we step back

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Speaker 4: I immediately got a text from Wit Mirfield and he's like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, it's my my The way I call

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Speaker 6: he's got the mentality He's been in the game a

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Speaker 6: long time, you know, pictures, do you think that he's

444
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Speaker 6: a guy that at some point in his career he

445
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Speaker 6: can be a solid closer, because that's a big question

446
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Speaker 6: about whether he can develop into that guy.

447
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

448
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely, there's no doubt in my mind that he'll be

449
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,680
Speaker 4: a closure in this game for sure. He just has

450
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Speaker 4: that mentality that nothing. I mean, I don't even know

451
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Speaker 4: how old he is. He's probably twenty three, maybe like

452
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 4: he's so young twenty two. The way that he stepped

453
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Speaker 4: in last year is for year pitching him the playoffs,

454
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,360
Speaker 4: nothing bothering him, like he just he has that that

455
00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,440
Speaker 4: that it factor where when he steps on the mound,

456
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 4: it seems like nothing's there's no crowd, there's no nothing

457
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 4: going on. It's just him and the hitter he's trying

458
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,879
Speaker 4: to execute, and no moment really seems too big for him.

459
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Speaker 1: So I definitely think he has that mentality JT.

460
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:24,440
Speaker 5: Zach Wheeler. He's great. He's really one of the greatest

461
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,000
Speaker 5: signings in the history of the Phillies. And you had

462
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Speaker 5: a role in it because he said one of the

463
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Speaker 5: reasons he wanted to come to Philly is he wanted

464
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Speaker 5: to throw to you. Can you talk a little bit

465
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Speaker 5: about your relationship with him and not over the last

466
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Speaker 5: handful of years here and how you've seen him grow

467
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,120
Speaker 5: as a picture and just what do you love about

468
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:42,680
Speaker 5: catching him?

469
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Speaker 1: Everything? I love everything, and the guy is just.

470
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Speaker 4: He's such a competitor and you guys have seen it.

471
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Speaker 1: He made it.

472
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Speaker 4: He made a big jump just his first year when

473
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Speaker 4: he came here. But it seems like every year he's

474
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,640
Speaker 4: still finding a way to get better. He's like either

475
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 4: adding a new.

476
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Speaker 1: Pitch or.

477
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 4: Changing a shape on a certain pitch. He uses his

478
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Speaker 4: pitches differently. He's just he's so adaptable. And for somebody

479
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 4: that's this late in his career is still be making

480
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 4: adjustments to get better with as good as he's already been,

481
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,919
Speaker 4: that just kind of that speaks.

482
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Speaker 1: To the competitor he is. And I think you can see.

483
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 4: The fire in his eyes when you guys watching them

484
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 4: pitch like it's no it's no secret.

485
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Speaker 1: The guy loves to pitch and he loves to dominate.

486
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Speaker 4: And that's what he's done for us for five years now.

487
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 4: You know, in my opinion, it's not even the question

488
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 4: that he's the best starter in the game. I hate

489
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Speaker 4: that he's gotten so close to Tuci Young's and not

490
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Speaker 4: you know, hasn't gotten one yet, but he's he's the

491
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Speaker 4: best starting pitcher in the game in my opinion.

492
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Speaker 5: What's your what's your pregame like with him?

493
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Speaker 1: Do you talk a lot to him?

494
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Speaker 5: Or is he just entrusting everything in you and he

495
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 5: just follows your fingers?

496
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Speaker 6: Uh?

497
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Speaker 1: Well, I said this one time in an interview and

498
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Speaker 1: he got mad at me for saying.

499
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Speaker 4: I want to say it again. Sometimes it looks like

500
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 4: he's about to fall asleep before the game. He's like

501
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 4: laying on the he's getting worked on with the trainer.

502
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 4: Paul's doing his like pregame stretch, and he's just laying

503
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 4: there listening to cable. Caleb and I basically go through

504
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 4: the game plan, and uh. Sometimes Caleb and I look

505
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 4: at each other and like, is he sleeping right now?

506
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 6: Or is like is he?

507
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 4: I just think he's so, you know, he's calm before

508
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 4: a game, which not a lot of guys are that calm.

509
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 4: He just relax and listening. He'll every now and then

510
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 4: he'll be funny. We'll be going through a lineup and

511
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Speaker 4: he'll ask like, is he right handed or left handed?

512
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Speaker 1: I'm like that, you know, I know that this you know,

513
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: But that's just he doesn't have to think too much

514
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Speaker 1: out there.

515
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Speaker 4: He's so talented and he knows that like we're going

516
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 4: to put the work in, and he trusts our work.

517
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 4: And but then he's also smart enough, like he knows

518
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 4: a game plan, he knows how to pitch, like he

519
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 4: knows how to make adjustments throughout the game. So he

520
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 4: just trusts his stuff, and he trusted the work that

521
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Speaker 4: Caleb I do.

522
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Speaker 2: But then conversely, it's funny when Caleb was on, he said, uh,

523
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 2: we were asking about Zach and he mentioned some mound

524
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Speaker 2: visit or almost mound visit in Cincinnati. Guys, you remember

525
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: that one He almost like stared dagger you know, has

526
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: killed me with a look. And I when you mentioned earlier,

527
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 2: like the the game within the game that the fans

528
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: don't get to see, what's the conversation with it.

529
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Speaker 3: I came on the mound with with Zach maybe compared

530
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Speaker 3: to other.

531
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Speaker 2: Guys or you know, Nolarezah, Zach does not want anybody

532
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 2: on the mountain.

533
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Speaker 1: Ever.

534
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Speaker 4: I do not have to go talk to him, you know,

535
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 4: because he's like like I said, he's a competitor. So

536
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 4: usually if you're going for a mountain visit, something hasn't

537
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 4: gone right, so he is he is pissed when I

538
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 4: go out there, or Caleb, it's funny. Caleb will go

539
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 4: out there and he'll say, like, you know, put his

540
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 4: goss and he goes, what do you got, Zach, and

541
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 4: he'll just say I don't know, and like stare right

542
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 4: through his soul and then Cable just turns around and

543
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 4: goes back. It's pretty every now and then we'll be

544
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Speaker 4: able to give him something that's actually useful information.

545
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: But most of the time with Wheels.

546
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 4: Like if we're going out there, it's just to slow

547
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 4: the game down a little bit and give him a breath.

548
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 3: It's not right.

549
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 4: He knows how to make adjustments, he knows we're doing

550
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 4: out there, so it's not like we're ever trying to give.

551
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: Him too much information. Yeah, that's it's not like that's

552
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: for sure.

553
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: So if you guys watch his antics from now on

554
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 4: when we go out there, it's pretty funny, like you'll

555
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 4: know that he's he's not giving us anything all. Even

556
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 4: ask him like, hey, what pitch you want to start

557
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: this next guy off with him? I almost never get

558
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: an answer, so you know who, he'll just say, like,

559
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 4: I don't care or whatever you want, you know, it's

560
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 4: just that's just wheels. He's not happy about mountain visits.

561
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Speaker 3: He trusts, you, man, he trusts It's a good thing.

562
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: What about how you know, when you think about how

563
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: would you describe Aaron Nola to two fans you know

564
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 2: and and you know, how would you describe Rangers Sware

565
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Speaker 2: as two of these you know, starters that have been

566
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Speaker 2: you know, done very well for you? How would compared

567
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 2: to how do they compare to Zach? How would you

568
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: describe their mentality, their whatever pitch them?

569
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Speaker 4: Knowles is a little more cerebral about his like pre

570
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 4: game approach. He loves to watch video and like he'll

571
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Speaker 4: look at the numbers.

572
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 1: I think our.

573
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Speaker 4: Meeting with him before the game takes quite a while.

574
00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 4: He's probably our longest meeting.

575
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: He he talks a lot like.

576
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 4: He gives he'll because he's already watched quite a bit

577
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 4: of video and he knows how he wants to attack

578
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 4: these guys. Really before we go to a meeting, which

579
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: is good that we're kind of all it's the three

580
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: of us having a conversation, getting on the same page.

581
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 4: So his meetings are definitely the longest, and he talks.

582
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 4: Talks the most out any of the of the starting

583
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 4: pitchers for sure. He's not not just listening and same

584
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: thing with it with like going through a game. He

585
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 4: likes he doesn't shake much, but like we'll have conversations

586
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: about how we want to attack the next guy, like

587
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 4: next time through and kind of get on the same patient.

588
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: He likes to think.

589
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 4: About that a little more probably than Zach does and Rangers.

590
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: Rangers a little more similar to Zach, Like he doesn't.

591
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 4: Say a lot, he doesn't think a lot, you know,

592
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 4: he doesn't rarely shakes like he's just he's up there

593
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 4: trying to execute. He's kind of the same as Ac

594
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 4: too is, Like he's very relaxed in the meeting, like

595
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 4: kind of like he's on the mound. You gotta see it.

596
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: He's very calm at all times. So it doesn't say

597
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 4: a lot, just listens and then goes out and dominate.

598
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: So he's a lot of fun work with too.

599
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 6: JG.

600
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 5: You've been all over the place in the lineup.

601
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 6: You know, you've hitten in the two hole, even in

602
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 6: the you know foural, you've hten in the seven hole.

603
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: Is there any place that you feel uncomfortable and.

604
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 6: Where is the most the place that you feel most

605
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 6: comfortable in the life.

606
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't necessarily feel uncomfortable anywhere.

607
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: I used to say, like, I don't know, I like

608
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 4: hitting earlier just because I can get my catcher's gear off,

609
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 4: you know, when the first thing thing's over, I can

610
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 4: just take everything off and be ready to hit. And

611
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 4: like sometimes if I'm hitting fifth or six, I keep

612
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 4: everything on and then got to make a late change

613
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 4: and put my helmet on and take my gear off.

614
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: So that's literally the only reason other than that, it

615
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 4: doesn't really matter me where I hit, and there's once

616
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 4: I step in the box, the position doesn't really matter

617
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 4: to me.

618
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: J T.

619
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Speaker 5: Andrew Panter does so much buzz about him. Can you

620
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 5: give us a little scouting report on him? What you

621
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 5: know you know know of him? And does that buzz

622
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 5: make its way into the clubhouse. Are you guys excited

623
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 5: about getting this kid on board in the near future

624
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 5: as well?

625
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

626
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, his buzz has definitely made its way

627
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 4: around the whole organization. I think, you know, he's just

628
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 4: he's kind of got the whole makeup you're looking for

629
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: in a starting pitcher. He's got the mentality he's got

630
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 4: the stuff. He's a big kid, obviously. You know, he's

631
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 4: got good command, fastball, plays good sliders.

632
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: I think he added a breaking ball this offseason if I.

633
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: Were in a shape like a slider or something.

634
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

635
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like so he's just got in my opinion,

636
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: he's just going to.

637
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 4: Keep getting better and like he's kind of like wheeling

638
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: where he's going to keep finding ways to improve. But

639
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 4: I think just with him, the thing that sticks out

640
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 4: with me is how mature he is in his makeup.

641
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 4: Like I've watched the pitch a few times and just

642
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 4: watching him go about his work, even watching them and

643
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 4: rehab last year when he was coming back from Toma.

644
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 4: John he just works hard and he's very humble and

645
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 4: quiet and goes about his work and doesn't put off

646
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: that like hey, I'm the top prospect here like this

647
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 4: is you know, he doesn't have that attitude. He just

648
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 4: kind of wens in with the guys, works hard and

649
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 4: wants to be really good.

650
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, he's kind of got the

651
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: whole whole package. When you were in the first starting.

652
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: Pitcher, Rob back at the winter meetings, Rob had said

653
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: he made a point to say, oh man, j T.

654
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: He's in great shape already.

655
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: He's like he's feeling great this and that, and I'm

656
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering, is that because he had the knee

657
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: surgery last year and you were kind of banged up

658
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: all year?

659
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: Can you can you speak to that a little bit?

660
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: I mean, did it bother you more than obviously you

661
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: don't want to come out and say I'm banged up guys,

662
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: you know or whatever. Maybe you weren't. I don't know,

663
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Speaker 2: but he it was just funny because he did. He

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Speaker 2: made a point to go, man, JT.

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Speaker 3: He's in good shape.

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Speaker 2: We're hearing good things about JT down there and clear

667
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Speaker 2: what I'm wondering, you know how you felt last year?

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Speaker 2: How you feel now kind of coming into this big

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Speaker 2: year for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel I was. I feel great.

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Speaker 4: I was talking to Morgan this morning. We ran sprints

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Speaker 4: this morning at the stadium and today it was probably

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Speaker 4: not today, but like within the last month, it's been

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Speaker 4: the first time I feel like I can really let

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Speaker 4: loose sprinting and not feel anything like so even after

676
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Speaker 4: the surgery last year, it was just kind of lingering effects.

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Speaker 4: I think it was just maybe scar tissue or something

678
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Speaker 4: from the surgery just kind of stuck around and it

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Speaker 4: wasn't necessarily like it wasn't super painful or it obviously

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Speaker 4: didn't keep me from playing a ton, but it's just

681
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Speaker 4: something that I would feel daily and like soreness and

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Speaker 4: like still feel some extra fluid in my knee stuff

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Speaker 4: like that. But that's all, you know, really, Probably about

684
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Speaker 4: a month ago, finally like it felt like I just

685
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: have had nothing done to my knee and it feels

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent again. So yeah, I got to give

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Speaker 4: Morgan and Fury a lot of credit because those guys who've.

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Speaker 1: Been working hard here in clear Water trying.

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Speaker 4: To recover and get healthy and be in as good

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Speaker 4: as shape as we can go into this season, and

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Speaker 4: they've done a great job for me.

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Speaker 2: And then Rob also said, yeah, we want to I

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Speaker 2: want to talk to JT at some point about playing

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Speaker 2: time and maybe the workload and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: And we asked them, I.

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Speaker 1: Really want to talk.

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Speaker 3: We asked you last Yeah, we asked him last year.

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Speaker 3: If you talked to JT goes, I'm I'm scared to

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Speaker 3: have that kind of.

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Speaker 2: Because if you know you want to play, you probably

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Speaker 2: would love to catch one hundred and forty right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: so where do you come down on that? I mean,

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Speaker 2: you want to catch as much as he can because

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Speaker 2: you think he can handle it, but they want to

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Speaker 2: cut you back maybe a little bit.

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Speaker 3: He said.

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Speaker 2: Also, yeah, nothing that he can still DH. But where

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Speaker 2: do you kind of come down on all that stuff?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's a perfect answer because I don't

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Speaker 4: I truly don't know what the best thing to do is.

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Speaker 1: I think, like I think you go off of how

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Speaker 1: I feel. And if you like I like.

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Speaker 4: This narrative, you know how narratives always gets started. But

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Speaker 4: like I've been healthy pretty much my whole career. Last

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Speaker 4: year was the first year I haven't caught whatever one

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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty games. And it's not like I got

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Speaker 4: hurt because I was being over caught. Like I got

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Speaker 4: hurt in May in a rainy game that was I

720
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Speaker 4: hit a triple and was legging a triple out and

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Speaker 4: tweaked my leg around second base. So if I was

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Speaker 4: like grinding through a season and it was August and

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Speaker 4: wear and tear and then I was getting hurt, like

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Speaker 4: I would get to, hey, let's play less. But for me,

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Speaker 4: I mean, my body feels as good right now as

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Speaker 4: it ever has, Like it's not.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm any of you know, I'm

728
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Speaker 1: getting old.

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Speaker 4: But with that, I understand the want to keep me

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Speaker 4: healthy and keep me productive as long as possible.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure Tom's and I'll have those coming on

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Speaker 1: a daily.

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Speaker 6: And I'm kind of curious as far as staying in shape.

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Speaker 6: Different guys use different methods. Are you like a blottiest guy,

735
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Speaker 6: you a good guy? Or you just do your basic

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Speaker 6: workout guy? What how do you go about your business

737
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Speaker 6: in the off season.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of evolved over time.

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Speaker 4: I used to be getting the weight room and lift

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Speaker 4: heavy things as much as I could and try to

741
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Speaker 4: get as physically strong as I could and bulk up,

742
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Speaker 4: like pushing a bunch of heavyweight.

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Speaker 1: The last couple of years and this year.

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Speaker 4: Specifically, I've done more like movement stuff and obviously still

745
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Speaker 4: lifting weights and training, but like trying to get in

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Speaker 4: the best shape I can and more cardio and like

747
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Speaker 4: doing more active things in between lifts where I'm breathing,

748
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Speaker 4: heaving the whole workout and not necessarily just lifting sitting

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Speaker 4: lifting sitting. It's like kind of more movement based the

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Speaker 4: entire workout, and it's almost like I don't want to

751
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: see the word cross fit because it's not cross fit,

752
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: but that type of like high high intensity, high heart

753
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: rate lifting essentially, and that this year I really enjoyed

754
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: because I'm not necessarily I'm at a point in my

755
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 4: career where I'm not trying to like throw on a

756
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 4: bunch of weight and get stronger. I'm trying to maintain

757
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 4: and stay healthy. So yeah, it's definitely the training programs

758
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: have evolved.

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Speaker 1: Throughout the years for me for sure, But that's like four.

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Speaker 4: Days a week I'm doing that type of lifting and

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Speaker 4: then two days are like my lift. It's not really

762
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Speaker 4: a lyft. My workout is basically stretching and movement and

763
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Speaker 4: trying to keep the body fresh and like recovery type stuff.

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Speaker 6: J T.

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Speaker 5: I'm really glad to hear that knee is feeling good

766
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 5: and you're doing those sprints. Speaks. I'll tell you, we

767
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Speaker 5: sit up.

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Speaker 1: Top, we sit up high.

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Speaker 5: I love and I've always loved watching you go first

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Speaker 5: to third. I've never seen I mean you you run

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Speaker 5: like like you know a guy who was a speed demon,

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Speaker 5: you know, like a guy who like a William McGee

773
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Speaker 5: or somebody like that in the in the day and

774
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Speaker 5: one some well those guys were electric base runners. But

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Speaker 5: the way you go first to third, do you take

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Speaker 5: a lot of pride in your base running? And where

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Speaker 5: did that kind of where.

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Speaker 1: Was I do? Uh, I'll tell you what I didn't like.

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Speaker 4: I don't know people know how much it killed me

780
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 4: last year to not be able to do stuff like that,

781
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Speaker 4: Like that's one of my favorite parts of the game

782
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Speaker 4: of baseball is running the bases.

783
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Speaker 1: Like I love putting pressure.

784
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Speaker 4: On defense and doing the little things the right way

785
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Speaker 4: to like help you win a game that not a

786
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Speaker 4: lot of people are going to recognize or notice, but

787
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Speaker 4: they change baseball games. And for me, base running.

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Speaker 1: Is a way to like, hey.

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Speaker 4: Like you can put in that extra effort and make

790
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Speaker 4: a huge difference and not have to be the fastest

791
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Speaker 4: guy on the field. It's just about paying attention and

792
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: the want to be a good base runner. So that

793
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: started for me, honestly, probably when I was in high school,

794
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Speaker 4: Like our coaches were very very serious about base running,

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Speaker 4: and then also when I got to the Marlins after

796
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Speaker 4: I got drafted, working with Wan Pierre, he was like

797
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Speaker 4: I could always remember having conversations with him about how

798
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: important base running was and every single day and screen

799
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 4: training every day during the season, we talked about base

800
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Speaker 4: running and hey.

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Speaker 1: We could have been more aggressive here, we could have

802
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Speaker 1: made adjustments here.

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Speaker 4: So I think just working with him and that's just

804
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: kind of carried on throughout and I also got to

805
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Speaker 4: see like how much.

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Speaker 1: That changes the game.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like, for me, that's such an important

808
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Speaker 4: part of the game that I not enough people pay

809
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Speaker 4: attention to.

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Speaker 5: Jan Pierre is a great baseball man. We had him

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Speaker 5: here for.

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Speaker 1: A while and yeah, we had him, yep, yep.

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Speaker 5: He loved to talk baseball with that guy. He's so prepared,

814
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 5: so smart.

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Speaker 1: He's an incredible person.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I loved having he was a veteran on

817
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Speaker 4: the Marlin scene when I came up there, and he.

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Speaker 6: Was awesome for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great too, well, JG, thanks so much for the time, man,

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Speaker 2: We really appreciate it. Again, like you said before, things

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Speaker 2: started really gearing up, you know, so should be a

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00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: fun year. I think Phillies fans are excited about the

823
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 2: upcoming season and you know the rotation.

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00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 3: You're gonna have fun catching that rotation. I think.

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Speaker 6: I think the people really that the fans really appreciate

826
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 6: the way you go about your business. I know the

827
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Speaker 6: people in the booth do I know the people that

828
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Speaker 6: cover year as well. And I know it's kind of

829
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Speaker 6: a pain in the next sometimes having to deal with

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Speaker 6: us on this side of a coin, but we really

831
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Speaker 6: appreciate you spending the time and taking the time to

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00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 6: talk to us.

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Speaker 3: We're looking forward to the season.

834
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 4: You guys are great. You guys always streaming with so

836
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to JT again for the time. That was

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