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Speaker 3: I mean, the name of the podcast is this a

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Speaker 1: Well, you have surprised us all with like an all

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Speaker 3: about football anymore. Ever, ever since they went to the

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Speaker 3: bubble stream of the skinny skinny post, Jeff, what does

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Speaker 3: that mean? I ran a post. I know how to

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Speaker 3: do that move. It's great, but I don't know what

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Speaker 3: a skinny post is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you gave up pasta for like a year

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Speaker 1: and a half before your daughter's wedding, that you looked

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Speaker 1: like a skinny post.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, thank you very very much for that, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: Right well, yeah, uh okay. And last thing again, I

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Speaker 3: hesitate to bring this up because there's no telling where

442
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Speaker 3: the Phillies are gonna be when this podcast comes out,

443
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Speaker 3: but you got to mention Kyle Schwarber, who hit two

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Speaker 3: homers in Game three against the Dodgers. And again, I

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Speaker 3: believe help me here, Jeff, you might know more than me.

446
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Speaker 3: The Phillies go as Kyle Schwarber goes. He is such

447
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Speaker 3: a leader on that team much like the Yankees with

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Speaker 3: Aaron Judge. When he hits a home run, it's like

449
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Speaker 3: everyone in the stands goes crazy and the team gets

450
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Speaker 3: closer knit because the star hit one well. Kyle Schwarber

451
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Speaker 3: hit two home runs, one that went out of the

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Speaker 3: stadium at Dodger Trey Turner said, I can't believe how

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Speaker 3: far he hit that bell. Trey Turner hit three oh

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Speaker 3: four this year. He's a really good major league hitter

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Speaker 3: and has power, and he was just dazzled by Kyle Schwarber.

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Speaker 3: So right now, Jeff only, Manny Ramirez with twenty nine

457
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Speaker 3: and jose L Tuova with twenty seven have more home

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Speaker 3: runs in the postseason than Kyle Schwarber, who now has

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Speaker 3: twenty three. So am I right about this? They go

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Speaker 3: as Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Schwarber goes, They go as Kyle Schwarber goes. That it changes,

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Speaker 1: it shifts the mood. And listen, the back end of

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Speaker 1: the lineup for the Phillies has pulled a lot of

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Speaker 1: wins out. We're talking Max Kepler, Harrison Bader when he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: Brandon marsh Bryce and Stott. They pulled out a lot

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Speaker 1: of good runs. But when one through three are not

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Speaker 1: hitting which they did not in Game one and two.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna win these games. But Game three, boy,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, were they hitting. And Kyle Schwarver with his

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Speaker 1: schwar bombs.

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Speaker 2: It makes all the difference.

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Speaker 3: That all pretty good? Okay, all right?

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Speaker 1: Coming up next here on is is a great game?

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Speaker 1: Or what we've got your quark Gins. We've got a team, Tim,

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Speaker 1: and we'll come close, not quite to wrapping up Ozzie

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Speaker 1: to Oral and then a little surprise at the end.

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Speaker 2: That's coming up next. All right, Dad, your quark Gins,

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Speaker 2: what do you have for us?

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Speaker 3: Okay? This just shows you how how much baseball can

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Speaker 3: surprise you any day.

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Speaker 2: So Game four of.

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Speaker 3: The Blue Jays against the Yankees, Louis Varlin started. It

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Speaker 3: was a bullpen game, but he started for the Blue Jays,

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Speaker 3: and he had pitched in relief the day before, and

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Speaker 3: it was a potential clinching game. So I called Frank

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Speaker 3: at the Elias after said, when's the last time a

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Speaker 3: guy pitched in relief one day started the game the

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Speaker 3: next day in a clinch situation. So Frank is so funny,

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Speaker 3: writes me back, and he goes up, You're not gonna

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Speaker 3: like this, Tim, because you know what I love, Jeff. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that hasn't happened since nineteen eleven or something.

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Speaker 2: It happened yesterday. No, just kidding, right, No.

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Speaker 3: Frank writes me back and he says, you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: like this. It happened last week. He did. Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Andrew Kittridge of the Cubs pitched in relief, and the

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Speaker 3: next day, as an opener in a bullpen game, he started.

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Speaker 3: And that was a clinch situation for the Cubs. So

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Speaker 3: I was hoping for something. Oh, it's been fifty years,

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Speaker 3: and as it turned out, it was like ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: It was incredible. Just again, Jeff. What this speaks to

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Speaker 3: is the game that we play today. Okay, this never

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Speaker 3: happened until about ten years ago when the opener came in.

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Speaker 3: It's happened like it's happened ten times. And I think

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00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: I read this properly. But it happened in nineteen oh

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Speaker 3: six and then it didn't happen again until about ten

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Speaker 3: years ago. This is just how the game is, how

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Speaker 3: the game is played. Yeah, I left this out. It

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00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: was in my notebook and I can't believe I forgot this.

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Speaker 3: But in the Reds Dodgers series, the wild Card series

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Speaker 3: that I covered, the Dodgers took Emmit Sheen out of

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Speaker 3: the game even though he had a one two count

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Speaker 3: on Will Benson. Okay, so they hit for Will Benson

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Speaker 3: when the new pitcher comes in, and so now it's

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Speaker 3: a one two count on Miguel Andrew Harp, who strikes out.

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Speaker 3: But since the count was one and two on Will Benson,

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Speaker 3: the strikeout goes to Will Benson. But the strikeout doesn't

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Speaker 3: go because there it was a one to two count.

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Speaker 3: But the strikeout doesn't go to Emma Sheen. It goes

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Speaker 3: to Alex Vesia, the reliever, because he got strike three.

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Speaker 2: You don't see that, No, you don't.

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Speaker 3: And I remember nineteen eighty eight, Frank Robinson, the very

522
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Speaker 3: impatient manager of the Orioles, took J. Tibbs out of

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Speaker 3: a game with an O two count, not one two,

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Speaker 3: O two against Jose Jose Canseco had hit two line

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Speaker 3: drives down the left field line. Foul just crushed him,

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Speaker 3: and Frank had seen enough. He took J. Tibbs out

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Speaker 3: of a game with an O two count. Never seen

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Speaker 3: that before or since, But I saw a guy get

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Speaker 3: taken out of a game with a one to two

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Speaker 3: count and then then you know again the strikeout went

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Speaker 3: to a guy who wasn't even in the game when

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Speaker 3: the strikeout occurred.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy that it wouldn't work the same way both ways.

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Speaker 2: But I mean the.

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Speaker 3: Understand way, right, that's the way it goes, all right.

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Speaker 3: Last thing, Jeff, this came from Nathan Praying. I hope,

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Speaker 3: I said, prange p r a n ge. He wrote

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Speaker 3: to me and he said, in Game four the Tigers

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Speaker 3: against the Mariners, in the seventh inning, Spencer Torkelsen saw

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Speaker 3: nine pitches before he saw a ball. Okay, so it

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Speaker 3: was like called strike, swinging strike, and then six foul balls.

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Speaker 3: So eight pitches had been thrown and not one of

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Speaker 3: them was a ball. So I called Frank from the

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Speaker 3: Alias because I'm not sure how to find something like that.

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Speaker 3: And of course it only happened two weeks ago. Josh

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Speaker 3: Naylor happened to him with the Mariners, but in the

547
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Speaker 3: postseason it happened last year with Jose Iglacis. So not

548
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Speaker 3: as odd as would you think. It would be a

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Speaker 3: little bit more unusual, a little more rare.

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Speaker 2: Pitches.

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Speaker 3: At the first lot of pitches, and the first eight

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Speaker 3: are strikes, and six of them were fouled off and

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Speaker 3: nine pitches in and there hasn't been a ball from Well.

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Speaker 1: The only strikes I'm counting right now are two strikes

555
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Speaker 1: on you with totally whiffing with Frank from the alias

556
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Speaker 1: trying to find something because now you've got something that

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Speaker 1: happened last week and something that happened two weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Dad, you're just striking, yes, right, but again this is

559
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: gotta see baseball.

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00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: Miss the shots you don't take. So if you're not

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Speaker 1: asking Frank for the elias.

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Speaker 3: You don't know, right, Totally agree?

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Speaker 1: All right, Dad, We're gonna veer from tradition here just

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and we're going to do on this

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Speaker 1: date in baseball history for October the ninth, which is

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Speaker 1: the day we are taping, and the day we usually

567
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Speaker 1: come out with an episode is on Thursdays, even though

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Speaker 1: this one is coming out on a Friday.

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Speaker 2: So what do you have for October ninth?

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Speaker 3: Right? Well, again, this is a tribute to my father, Pop,

571
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Speaker 3: your grandfather. We're going to do this on October ninth,

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Speaker 3: his birthday. On this date, nineteen twenty eight, Babe Ruth,

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Speaker 3: for the second time in his career, hit three home

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Speaker 3: runs in a World Series game. Nobody else has ever

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Speaker 3: done that. And how many times have we said that

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Speaker 3: about Babe Ruth. No one else has ever done that.

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Speaker 3: And I love this, Jeff. I remember like it was yesterday,

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Speaker 3: on this date in nineteen ninety nine, it was Nana

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Speaker 3: and Pop's fiftieth anniversary, and we're having a party at

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Speaker 3: our house. They lived right next door to us, and

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Speaker 3: we had a big weekend plan. I hope I don't

582
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Speaker 3: say any of this wrong. We had a big weekend plan,

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Speaker 3: but I was covering the postseason, and I would have

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Speaker 3: had to have gone to Arizona the next day and

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Speaker 3: miss some of the great festivities with our whole family

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Speaker 3: in town. And then Todd Pratt of the Mets hit

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Speaker 3: a walk off home run, the Mets clinched, and I

588
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: didn't have to go to Arizona. I got to stay

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Speaker 3: home for an extra day in October to celebrate with

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Speaker 3: my parents and all of our relatives that were in town.

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Speaker 3: So I don't room for anything, Jeff. But that day

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Speaker 3: when Todd Pratt hit a homer, I'm not rooting for

593
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Speaker 3: the Mets or against the Diamondbacks, just something happened and

594
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Speaker 3: I went, oh, my gosh, I don't have to go tomorrow.

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00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: I could stay home with my mom and dad and

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Speaker 3: all my children and everything else. So it was great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you had any of your children all born

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Speaker 1: in October, I think you have to legally change their

599
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Speaker 1: birthdays because I'm August.

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Speaker 2: Kelly is February.

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Speaker 1: And Kelly had the audacity to get married in late September.

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Speaker 2: Now, you would never miss a wedding, of course.

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Speaker 1: But I told my now wife Emily, she wanted to

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Speaker 1: have an October wedding in.

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas, and I said, no, we just can't do that.

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Speaker 1: And you scolded me back and said, Jeffrey, I would

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Speaker 1: never miss your wedding.

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Speaker 2: Of course not. And I said, no, We're doing it

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Speaker 2: in April. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to put you in that spot. We

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Speaker 1: got to stop having holidays in October.

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Speaker 2: It's just not the way it works.

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Speaker 3: Right, right. Kelly wanted to get married in October because

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Speaker 3: of the weather, and then she said, no, we can't

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Speaker 3: do that. Dad's too busy in October. So they switched

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Speaker 3: it to the end of September, and it was plus okay.

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Speaker 3: A couple other things on this date in eighteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 3: Joe Suol Hall of Fame second baseman was born. Jeff.

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Speaker 3: You know, we talk all the time about the strikeout raid,

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Speaker 3: different game, different time. He was the all time hardest

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Speaker 3: guide strikeout. He struck out one hundred and fourteen times

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Speaker 3: in his career. Jeff, I didn't even look it up,

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Speaker 3: but I promised you one hundred and fifty guys struck

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Speaker 3: out one hundred and fourteen times this year. That's just

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Speaker 3: how it works. And he did that in eighty three

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty three at bats. And just for example,

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Speaker 3: nineteen thirty two, he struck out three times in five

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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy six at bats. I mean Ryan McMahon

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Speaker 3: for instance, and others had four four strikeout games this year,

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Speaker 3: and Joe Suell had three strikeouts for an entire season.

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Speaker 3: Also another birthday on this date, Freddie Pottek was born

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Speaker 3: nineteen forty four. Freddie Potek Jeff with a five foot

633
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Speaker 3: four inch everyday shortstop for the Kansas City Royals, and

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Speaker 3: I grew up watching him play and being the tiniest

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Speaker 3: guy on the field. Freddy was not he was short.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't little, he was short as we Oh, there's

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00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: a difference. He was a strong guy at three homers

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00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: in one game at Fenway Park. So I always love

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Speaker 3: Freddie Potek because he was the little shortest guy in

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Speaker 3: the field and he was really really good. And last one, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: and this spurs and I hope I say all of

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Speaker 3: this properly. The team, Tim, and it has to do

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Speaker 3: with Bob Moose. And this is kind of sad, but

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Speaker 3: Bob Moose was born on this date, October ninth, nineteen

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Speaker 3: forty seven, and he died on this date now in

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00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy six. Bob Moose, who is a pretty darn

647
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: good pitcher for the Pirates. So this is fairly obvious. Jeff,

648
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 3: the team, Tim is, with Bob Moose being born and

649
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: dying on this date, what are we going.

650
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: For Animal team?

651
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so we're going to start with Greg Bird at

652
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: first base, Nellie Fox at second base, Jake Lamb at

653
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 3: third base. And get this, Jef, today's his birthday. Also. Yeah,

654
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: so we had two guys on the All Animal Team

655
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 3: who were born on the same day. I love that.

656
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: And Rabbit Moranville Hall of Fame Shorts staffman Shorts the

657
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: second time we've used him in this podcast. Rob Deer

658
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: is an outfielder. I could tell you one hundred Rob

659
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: Deer stories. Boy he was a manchild. He's one of

660
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: the biggest strongest guys I've ever been around. Struck out

661
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: a lot, but boy, when he creased one, it went

662
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: at like five hundred feet. He was something else. Mike Trout,

663
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 3: of course, and Turkey Stern, so I covered them. Bob

664
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 3: Moose is one pitcher, Randy Wolfe, Mike Parrott, catfish right right,

665
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: Doug Bear spelled B A I R, and our catcher

666
00:36:53,960 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: is Barry Lions L Y O N S but plural lions. Yes.

667
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 3: So that's the team tim for today. All spurred by

668
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: Bob Moose, who was born on this date and died

669
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 3: on this state. So kind of sad but hopefully Okay.

670
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: From Ozzie to Oral Dad.

671
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: What we do is we give you the best player

672
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: to wear each number, and we're coming towards the end

673
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: because we're already at fifty two.

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00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 3: Okay. Number fifty two is CC Sabathia, who just went

675
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame. Sabathia two hundred and fifty

676
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: one wins, three thousand and ninety three strikeouts and a

677
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: winning percentage of six' oh. Nine so when you look

678
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: at those three numbers two fifty, one three zero nine

679
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: three and point six zho. Nine the only other pitchers

680
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: that can match all three of those numbers in baseball

681
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 3: History Greg, Maddox Roger, Clemens Randy, Johnson Tom, Seaver Justin.

682
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: Berland that's a pretty special group of. Guys and one

683
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 3: reason he's A hall Of fame is he took the

684
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 3: ball whenever his team needed. It when he got traded

685
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 3: to The, brewers he pitched on short rest as a

686
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: free like free agent to. Be you, know maybe today

687
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 3: someone might, Say i'm not going to pitch on short.

688
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: REST i might get hurt and ruin my next. Contract

689
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: not Ce Sees abati AND i think we did this last, Year,

690
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 3: Jeff but he's on The all initial. Team, also guys

691
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: who go only by their. Initials we'll do that again

692
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: some other. Time but he's the greatest player in baseball

693
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: history to go by his. Initials you, KNOW J Trail

694
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: muto AND Jj, HARDY Jj. Hardy we gave the whole.

695
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: List there's some really good, players but the best guy

696
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: ever to go exclusively by his initials is C. Seesabathia

697
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: the greatest number fifty two. Ever the best number fifty

698
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: three Is Don, drysdale one of the Great dodger pitchers

699
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: of all. Time he won two hundred nine, games had

700
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: a two point nine to FIVE, era he made Nine

701
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 3: All star. Teams he won a Cy. Young of, course

702
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: he had the record of fifty six consecutive scoreless, innings

703
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: which was broken By Oral hersheiser in nineteen eighty. Eight

704
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: herscheizer got to fifty. Eight AND i love. This oral

705
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: told me that after he came out of the game

706
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 3: after breaking the, record and you know who interviewed him

707
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: on LIVE tv after the game Was Don dreis because

708
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: he was a broadcaster for The, dodgers and he went

709
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: down and Interviewed Oral hersheiser After hersheiser had Broken Don drysdale's.

710
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 3: Record SO i thought that was really, cool And i'm

711
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: amazed by. This. Jeff he had forty nine shutouts and

712
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: he only, well he won two hundred and nine games

713
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: and had forty nine, shutouts so one every four point

714
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: two victory in his career was a.

715
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: Shutouts crazy think about?

716
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 3: That isn't that? Crazy so that? Percentage no one's ever

717
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: had so few, wins even though two hundred and nine

718
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: is a lot with that many shutouts in the history of.

719
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: Baseball that's Who Don drysdale.

720
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: Was wrap it right here with three cards in the, Bathroom,

721
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: dad you've taken cards from.

722
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 3: HOME i just pulled them, out. Okay and the first,

723
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 3: one oh, boy Is Kevin. Sitzer these guys are all

724
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: Because Kevin seitzer was a really good player for The

725
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: Kansas City. Royals once had six. Hits jeff once went

726
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: six for six in a Major league, game and he

727
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: is the hitting coach right now for The Seattle. Mariners

728
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: BUT i Remember Kevin seitzer for other. Things he got

729
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: hit in the face with a, pitch and then he

730
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 3: got hit in the face, again, oh with a. Pitch

731
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: and after the second, one he put up the bar

732
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: on his, helmet you, know the flap on his helmet

733
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: to protect his. Face and he looked at me in

734
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: all seriousness and, said, look anyone who calls me a,

735
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: wimp you can go ahead and do. It but the

736
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: only one who can is allowed to call me a

737
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: wimp is someone who hasn't been hit once in the,

738
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: face that has been hit twice in the face, Again.

739
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: Jeff this is the difference between them and everybody. Else

740
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: Kevin sitcher not only came back from one, beaning he

741
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: came back from. Two and by the, Way jeff Pet, peeve,

742
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: right beaning is when you get hit in the. Head,

743
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: okay when you get hit in the foot or you

744
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: get hit in the butt or in the. Back you

745
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: didn't get. Beaned you got hit by a. Pitch bean

746
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: represents the. Head AM i wrong about? This AM i

747
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 3: being a pananic little twit about? This? Well back to

748
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: the butt buck.

749
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: NAKED i feel like a lot of people say beamed

750
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: up with AN m instead of.

751
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: BEAMED i do, think, Really i've heard it on.

752
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: Broadcast hand to, God i've heard people say it around the,

753
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: ballpark And i've heard coaches say it to. Me WHEN

754
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: i was, umpire he beamed, him AND i would, say,

755
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: coach he beamed. Him and also it's you, know the

756
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: kid can't, throw he's, Ten so don't be.

757
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: Mad that's that's totally. Wrong. Okay second, one this is

758
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 3: a challenge for. Me this Is Mike Lacosse Good Picture

759
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: royals and then The. GIANTS i do remember that his

760
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: nickname Was, buffy and it was in part because he

761
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: looked like the. Girl the little girl who played the

762
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: Daughter buffy On Family, affair which was a sitcom that

763
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: was out of the sixties in the early. Seventies Sebastian

764
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: cabot And Brian keith and all This Buffy, lacasse that

765
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: boy that was a pool for me from way, back

766
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: and put it. On the producer Is Billy, ripkin of,

767
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: course the younger brother Of Cal. Ripken And Billy. Ripkin

768
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 3: don't let anyone tell you, Differently jeff was a great

769
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: defensive second basement and once in a playoff, game And

770
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: i'm not going to be critical, here But Roberto alamar

771
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: of The orioles in a playoff game bailed out on

772
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 3: a double play because he was going to get. Chilled,

773
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: okay And Roberto alomar was the best player on the,

774
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: team Including Cal ripken. Junior Roberto alomar was that. Good

775
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: so after the, GAME i said To Billy, ripkin off the,

776
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: record now it's on the, record BUT i, Said, billy

777
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: did he is he allowed to bail on that? Play

778
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: And billy, said, yes he is allowed to bail because

779
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: he's our best. Player and if he gets killed and

780
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 3: gets hurt and can't, play he, said you, know we're

781
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: in big, trouble he, Said BUT i would not have

782
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: bailed on that double. Play AND i would have made

783
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: that double play BECAUSE i am not, him and my

784
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: only way to stay in the major leagues is to

785
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: hang in there on that. Play do you understand? That

786
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: do you get? That?

787
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Well we've heard many stories Of Cal Ripkin. Sr who

788
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: also Raised Billy, ripkin and the man who puts a power.

789
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: Drill through his nail is raising. Boys he'll do just about.

790
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: Anything, right And Billy ripkin would do just about anything

791
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: to stay in the big. Leagues AND i had so

792
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 3: many laughs With billy BECAUSE i covered him on The

793
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: orioles in the eighties covering for The Baltimore. Sun so

794
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: one morning At Fenway, park it's A sunday morning And

795
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: billy is he's eating a chocolate donut roughly the size

796
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: of a. Tire, okay it's, gigantic all. Right and he's

797
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: in the clubhouse and it's you, know like nine o'clock

798
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: in the morning on A sunday At fenway and he,

799
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 3: says all, right what AM i going to do? Here

800
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: DO i go to chapel or DO i watch The Three?

801
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: Stooges that was his question to. Me, wait what SHOULD

802
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: I and he's eating a chocolate. Donut so he watched

803
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: The Three stooges for a couple of minutes and then

804
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: went in to. Chapel so all sorts of things gonna.

805
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: Happen so obviously games last, night but tonight will have

806
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: a game five between The mariners and The. Tigers the

807
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: winner of that will be In, toronto where you will.

808
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: Be look at, you You canadian. Man You you've spent

809
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: a lot of time on the other side of the,

810
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: border our northern. Friends you're gonna go see family In, toronto, right, yes,

811
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: right we have.

812
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: A bunch of. Cousins i'm gonna See Aunt, Susan i'm

813
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 3: gonna See Aunt. Donna it's gonna be. Great we're gonna

814
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 3: have a great. Time and maybe Maybe eduardo will come

815
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 3: back and he AND i will go to A Bad

816
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: bunny concert in a. Helicopter what do you never know

817
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: what's gonna, Happen, Eduardo you never?

818
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: Know thank you so much for. Listening as, always thanks

819
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: for being a part of our.

820
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: Family