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Speaker 1: Drama Queens, Drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, Drahna, Queen's Drama Queens. Alright,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gents, we're back. We're here with episode fourteen,

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Speaker 1: season two, The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows.

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Speaker 1: This originally aired February two thousand and five, and in

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Speaker 1: real time. I don't know when you're listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: We're doing a live event. We're doing a nice live

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god? It's perfect? Yeah, we

421
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: are the same age. I'm saying. I love this, Catherine,

422
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: I love this loving rock and roll. This is this

423
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: is great. Um. Let me ask you one question of

424
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: all the boys on the show, right, like, which boy

425
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: speaks to you? Is it Nathan? Is it Lucas? Is

426
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: it Jake? Is it Mouth? Like? What's your type? Lord Mercy? Um?

427
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Probably Nathan Um, you know the you know, the bad

428
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: boy kind of like, you know, just a little bit

429
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: um and again. But Thenyian, I had so many scenes

430
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: with mal and he's the sftie and I have a

431
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: thing for that. So like he really did work out

432
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: that we were together, you know, on the show, and

433
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: he was I mean it does help that. You know,

434
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: Lee is just like the most amazing person. He's the

435
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: best and so easy to work with and so just

436
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: like it's such great ideas and make space for you

437
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: as an actor. I mean I just loved him. I

438
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: know you hit the jackpots this. Um, did you watch this?

439
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: I want to know, wait, wait before we go to

440
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: the episode questions. I want to know, since we've just

441
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: watched and we're really in the flashback of our of

442
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: our twenties, who is your Yankee most like? Out of

443
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: all the boys on our show? Yeah, who's your husband? Like?

444
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: Is he a Nathan or a mouth? Who is he?

445
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: He's not a mouth. He might be a Nathan or

446
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: Chad Michael. He's a hybrid. He's a Scott Brother hybrid.

447
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean that's the best option, it really is. Yeah.

448
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean he's tough. He's tough. These sweet's got a

449
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: soft hearts always fine that that's so you? Yeah yeo.

450
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean he's probably listen to me right now. Tell

451
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: him to come hang out with us. We've got we've

452
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: got some ladies that are very curious. Our curiosity is

453
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: peaked right O. God, he might get a little job

454
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: like all the all beautiful girls. We're flirty. So watch out,

455
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: all right, Um, we're going to take a break right now,

456
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna watch the We're gonna talk about

457
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: the episode. Uh, Katherine, did you watch the episode? Oh heck,

458
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: yeah I did. Okay, Yeah, I was in tears. I

459
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, it's so crazy. It was

460
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: so long ago, and wow, yeah, it was super cool

461
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: to watch it. I watched the whole dang bank good.

462
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: But we just did too. We watched the whole dang thing,

463
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: and we hope you at home watched the whole dang

464
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: thing too, so we can all come back and talk

465
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: about it. We'll be right back. We're back with our sweetheart,

466
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Katherine Bayleiss. Katherine, you're so good at being still, you know,

467
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: like it takes a lot for an actor to be

468
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: comfortable enough to be still and just deliver their lines. Yeah,

469
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: it seems actually really hard to find. Yeah, especially when

470
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: we're playing teenagers and we're all goofy and wiggily and stuff.

471
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: Of what were you basing it on? What were your

472
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: inspirations for this role? So I think I've had to

473
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: internalize it when again, like when I was going out

474
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: like for vice president of my student body and everything,

475
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: and I kind of internalized that, and also I knew

476
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: that I couldn't be big because she wasn't supposed to

477
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: be big. She didn't know how to be big. She

478
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: was just this really introvert, had no friends. Her only

479
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: friend was like her presidency. Yeah, maybe one other friend,

480
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: and you just cannot um. I don't know. It just

481
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of came naturally, and I'll never forget Bevin said

482
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: something to me. Really yes, because Bevin had a bunch

483
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: of lines this episode. Yeah, Bevin looked over to me.

484
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: And that wasn't a very long it was with you,

485
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: but I mean, Sophia, it wasn't a very long scene.

486
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: It was when when I lost and I was started

487
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: to internalize that and started to crop, and she was like,

488
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: how did you do that? And I went, I don't know.

489
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like it just happened. And then

490
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: that's what that you have to just visualize, you in

491
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: that moment in high school where you're going, oh my god,

492
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: I just lost to a girl that never even knew

493
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: about being president and I've been doing this my entire life.

494
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: This is all I had. And yeah, and that's kind

495
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: of like how I got there. I think, Yeah, I

496
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: think I learned that probably through Liam Esper, through acting classes.

497
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: It was like not, but I'm kind of a big

498
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: person and I am very animated so sometimes I am animated,

499
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: but that role I kind of was just yeah, yeah,

500
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: she's stoked, is what you would say, right, Yeah, And

501
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: it needed that because Brooke has so much energy and

502
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: bounce and she's bubbling and busy, and yeah, it really

503
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: needed that opposite energy. I think my favorite scene between

504
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: me or Eric and Brooke was the very first scene

505
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: when I turned around my hair flipped. Yes, Oh I

506
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: love that scene too, because you were actually so sincere

507
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: and so like genuinely wanting to help her until the

508
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: moment that you realize that she said. The moment she

509
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: says I'm running for president. I've been Presidence is like

510
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: seventh grade. Yeah. It was so great. It had that speed,

511
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: It had that clip of like the old Spencer Tracy

512
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: Katherine Hepburn movies, you know, in that clip. Is hard

513
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: to do sometimes with guest stars because sometimes directors just

514
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: so you guys at home now, when they come on

515
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: to set, they know, like, oh, the regular kids kind

516
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: of have it made up in their mind how they're

517
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: going to be I'm gonna overdirect the guest stars and

518
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: really get in their head, you know. And so you

519
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: didn't let anyone get in your head, you know, you

520
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: knew what you wanted to do, and you were toe

521
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: to toe was soap? Who Sophia has chewed up and

522
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: spit out every other actor on our show? What does that? Even? Macca?

523
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: Your singers, you're one liners are Brooke? Brooke had good

524
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: one liners. It's true. Yeah, I love a good one man.

525
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: But also to come on the show at a time

526
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: when it was I really had a height, the height

527
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: of its popularity. Um, you know, it was right in

528
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: that zone when everybody was talking about One Tree Hill

529
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: and it was very much in the cultural zeitgeist. And

530
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: for you to come in and not be intimidated and

531
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: not you really brought your own thing. You didn't worry

532
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: about stepping on toes. You were like here to take

533
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: up your own space, which is as an actor, that's

534
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: what you want. You want to be around on the

535
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: people that you can trust. Yeah, it's so cool, and

536
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: you know what to to even that point you made Hillary,

537
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: because yeah, damn Brooke had withering loeliners and the thing

538
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: that Brooke would throw at a character like this. Erica

539
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: was unintimidated and and really threw down at Brooke in

540
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: ways she wasn't accustomed to having anyone challenge her, and

541
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, you don't expect that from the perfect president

542
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: who's so academic that she doesn't have any friends. And

543
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: yet here was Erica marsh like in the ring, and

544
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: I think that's what made that moment between them in

545
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: the office feels so tender and like it could be

546
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: something like they might be friends. It was very cool.

547
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: Then it happens, Well, we have so much in this episode.

548
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, should we just go back. Let's talk about Eric,

549
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Catherine's crush. Let's talk about Nathan um

550
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: because Nathan, we start to see hints of old Nathan

551
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: starting to see bad boy. Let's talk about that trajectory.

552
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: I was really I loved seeing James without any gel

553
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: in his hair, was totally baby faced in his his hair,

554
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: with his hair down. And you know, as we've talked

555
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: about before, James was the youngest on the show, and

556
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: he took his job so seriously. He had an acting

557
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: coach that would come in and work with him, and

558
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: I remember how much he cared about getting this stuff right.

559
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: So I know that he was working really hard at

560
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: this and it really paid off. I just loved seeing

561
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: this switch of vulnerability and angst in trouble and Nathan

562
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: um and I love seeing the hints of old Nathan

563
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: coming back. And he punched Dan what and then punched

564
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: Dan beer in class? Beer in class? Which is worth

565
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: the beer in class? Are punching your dad? I mean,

566
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: doesn't everybody want to punch Dan? I think so, Like,

567
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was more shocked that he was

568
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: ripping beers in class and then the gall to be like,

569
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: don't worry, I brought enough for everybody, and he started

570
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: passing them out in front of the teacher. Okay, So, Katherine,

571
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: when you watched the episode and you saw the teacher

572
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: in the little baby skirt, did you have a reaction

573
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: to the und your head what I call? I'm like, hey,

574
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: I could be playing her now because Sophia and I

575
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: walked right into the trap because they pull out and

576
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: they do the wide shot of the teacher and we're like,

577
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: what's with the skirt? And then Nathan makes the comment

578
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: like and tries to slut shame the teacher, and we realized, like, man,

579
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: we loved right into that, damn it. We talked about

580
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: true religions, jeans that you wore the religion jeanes, those

581
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: are so good. Yeah. They Yeah, those the fashion crazy stuff.

582
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean that time was two four. Yeah, well we

583
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: shot it in two thousand four, so it aired in

584
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: two thousand, right at the beginning of two thousand five. Yeah,

585
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of love handle on my part.

586
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: With those low rise jeans. It was just like, what's

587
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: gonna spill out over this? You know? What I loved

588
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: was Brooks brooch. Do you remember? That was the time

589
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: when it brooches were really in. It was in all

590
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: the magazines put on and you were the crop sweater

591
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: with the skin tight tank tops. You could see it

592
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: was just made your boobs bigger and your waist really

593
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: t not you but the people who were it, but

594
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: also you, And it was really cute. I love that look.

595
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: I I will say I loved that whole outfit. Those

596
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: plaid pants, you know, I love a plaid pant. And

597
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: I was laughing at that crop sweater. But that's such

598
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,479
Speaker 1: an iconic moment that when in the hallway, and I've

599
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: seen that photo so many times, but watching the episode,

600
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: I was like, God, I used to have so many abs,

601
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: Like you guys, My abs were sick and they went

602
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: all the way down and I was watching me just

603
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: walk out of the hallway to to hear the announcement

604
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: by myself, and I was like, I know, I'm supposed

605
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: to really be invested in Brook's emotional journey, but god,

606
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: I miss that abdominal situation. Oh my god. No, but

607
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: it was it was nice. I didn't know how nice

608
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: it was at the time. I probably would have worned

609
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: just more crrupt things. But it's I like that outfit.

610
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: You had good outfits of this episode. I liked also

611
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: when you were wearing at the beginning of the episode

612
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: when we come to school. I don't like what I'm wearing.

613
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: I don't like my hair. Blue don't No, you don't

614
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: like your hair and the ding dong you guys, this

615
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. However, Hillary, the conversations, you're just wild curly hair,

616
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: because it wasn't curly hair, it was it all burned off,

617
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: and I hated that. That's how I looked when Jake

618
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: Jabowski came back, like, I remember being so self conscious, like,

619
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: oh man, I just really would like it if it

620
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: were different right now. Um. But the conversation that we

621
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: had in the parking lot about the similarities between Chris

622
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: Keller and Nathan. That's interesting, digress. I loved that. I

623
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: also loved I'm just saying the same person. Well, before

624
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: we get into the boys, I'm gonna go ahead and

625
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: say I loved our walking talks of them. Are walking

626
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: talks were so good walking through the parking lot, walk

627
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: through the hallway, and they were at a clip that

628
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: felt really real and the energy was so high. But God,

629
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: when we were in the parking lot and Brooks talking

630
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: about how Haley changed Nathan and well when she first

631
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: met him, he was arrogant and self centered and really talented,

632
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: and you know they're the same. Yeah, that hit hard,

633
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: Joy was it was it weird for you to watch

634
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: Hillary and I having that conversation while Haley was away

635
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: on tour with Chris Ri. Oh my god, Oh my god,

636
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: it's true that what they were saying about me is true. Gosh,

637
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: it was weird because I didn't know I was in

638
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: this episode. I thought I wasn't. But I guess that's

639
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: how they I guess they filmed a bunch of my

640
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: stuff all in when last week we were talking about

641
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: they filmed it all kind of in one chunk, So

642
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: I think that was one of the pieces I guess, um,

643
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: yeah it was, and you weren't wrong. I mean the

644
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: fact that Haley was so attracted to a project and

645
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: you know, somebody to fix, and that's kind of what

646
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: Nathan was. And then she fixed them, so to speak,

647
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: and now there's something else. Okay. I don't think that

648
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: that's totally what's going on with Haley. I think that

649
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: that's a part of it, like a subconscious part of

650
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: her attraction to Chris, that she's denying and pushing away

651
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: and trying to do the right thing. I love a project.

652
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: So many women do to Catherine projects. Oh hey, yeah,

653
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: I love a project. Project. Yeah, I will say though. Ah,

654
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: there was a point where my dad sat me down

655
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: and was like, you already rescue dogs, stop dating sick puppies.

656
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: And I was like Dad, I was like, oh Dad,

657
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: it cuts deep. Also, you're you're very right. You're very right.

658
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: It's not my responsibility to save human beings. This is

659
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: really awkward and terrible and horrible, and I have to go. Now.

660
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: You've always been like that, Sophia. I mean, you were

661
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: like in your early early early twenties, like you always

662
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: rescued doll. I remember going on and I'm going how

663
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: many dands? I mean, which she got the parvo puppies?

664
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: Were you there? I'm puppies? I wish I was so sweet,

665
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, that I learned my lesson. I was like, yeah,

666
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: taking home a dog in her nine puppies was a

667
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: real big mistake. But you know, I've learned that lesson

668
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: about animals and human beings too, And look at us

669
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: just growing up and you know who doesn't need fixing?

670
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: Stay with me now, sew Katherine, did you ever get

671
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: to hang out with Brian Greenberg or were you guys

672
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: ships passing in the night? Oh no, no, no no, we

673
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: hung out a bunch. I was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

674
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: we um we don't got a good a good amount

675
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: because he was working at the same time I was working,

676
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of people that like ship

677
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: sailing in the you know, but like we were on

678
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: kind of the same schedule, so yeah, I got to

679
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: know them pretty well. And he just had twins. Oh yeah,

680
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: him do that I went to because I prised my

681
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: egge twice. Really, you guys went to the same doctor,

682
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 1: good like, well, not him, no, but he's honestly, he's

683
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: such a good person. You know a lot of guys

684
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: have been revealed to be gross in the last couple

685
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: of years. Greenberg doesn't have to worry about that. Greenberg

686
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: has always been above board and he's kind and professional

687
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: and awesome and we got really, really lucky to have him.

688
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: And you know, the girls tease me about the whole

689
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: like Payton Jake Jabelski thing because I turned purple during

690
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: the Jake Jagelski scenes. I'm so embarrassed. So hot, you guys,

691
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: that kiss so good he's and he is such a

692
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: leading man. He is such a leading man. He knows

693
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: how to use the camera, how to use the space

694
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: in between you guys. He's in such control of his

695
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: instrument as an artist. It was really really said it.

696
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: I locked eyes and we were like, what are you

697
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: saying right now? You know what I mean? Joys like

698
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: his dancers posture, Oh my god, Oh my god. Now,

699
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: Also the delayed gratification of that kiss. We've been waiting

700
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: for that kiss for so long. Yes, that's you know what,

701
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: That's what we wanted. Remember with with Peyton and Lucas

702
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: and how it happened so fast and we were all

703
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: like and it was creepy. It was creepy. This is

704
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: what we waited for. It so what we wanted in

705
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: the fact that you so long to lean it. It's

706
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: so tender, like biting your limp a little. Oh god,

707
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm so good. I loved it. I really liked that.

708
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: The night before they kissed, Peyton left the room and

709
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: was like, this is too much, and he didn't chase

710
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: her into the room that you know, the other bedroom

711
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: is needy. There was no there was like like no

712
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: game playing. He just took that night to formulate his

713
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: thoughts so that the next night he was like, I

714
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: lied to you about while I was coming here. I

715
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: I want to be with you, and you know, like

716
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: I dorked out. I mean, I'm like trying so hard

717
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: to be cool, I say me, I'm like talking about

718
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: Peyton forced. Peyton is like tried so hard to be cool. Um,

719
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: but working with someone like Brian who he switches from

720
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: being Brian your buddy behind camera to like Jake Chakilski

721
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: this like kind of soulful dude. You know, like there's

722
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: a there's a shift in the energy where it's really

723
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: easy to have a huge freaking crush on Jake Chikowski

724
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: and then go like have drinks at the bar, you know,

725
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: with your buddy Greenberg. And and that's nice that that

726
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: that energy shift can happen in a really easy way. Yeah. Well,

727
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: and I know we've talked about this before, but Brian

728
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: was such a good friend to all of us and

729
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: was always such a safe, like quality guy. And I

730
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: think some of his natural energy is what you see

731
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: coming out of Jake in these really tender scenes, because

732
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: he is a soulful, present, considerate human and to watch

733
00:47:54,640 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: these two teenagers be withholding out of a little bit

734
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,959
Speaker 1: of fear and a little bit of discomfort. Peyton leaves

735
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: the room and says like, this is a lot for

736
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: my emotions. I don't know what's happening here. I gotta

737
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 1: protect myself and and he sits with it and realizes, well,

738
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm keeping something from her, and maybe that's why she's

739
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: keeping something from me. It's so patient and kind. Yeah,

740
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: I love them, I love them, I love them and

741
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: other hot boy energy mouth getting up to give the speech.

742
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Do you think this is when Erica marsh falls in

743
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: love with him? Yes, mm hmm. There's a moment that

744
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: they caught and I haven't seen this in a long time,

745
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: and I will she that's when Eric was like, I

746
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: won't get those lips. I'm gonna get those lips. Where'd

747
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: you guys kiss for the first time? Do remember? Yeah?

748
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: It was in front of my house, Eric, or Erica's house,

749
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: and I did the whole you know, you know, when

750
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: you're you're acting and you don't even know what's gonna happen,

751
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: and you bite you a little, and I like, I

752
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: don't know how awkward it was, but I did it.

753
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: And I didn't even know I did it when it happened,

754
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: and I saw it on feeling for the first time,

755
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that what works because I'm awkward and

756
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: whatever I'm in high school or which I was in

757
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: high school. Um. Yeah, and yeah, that was the first

758
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: time we kissed. And it was so cute, Oh my god,

759
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah. I love that mouth came came up

760
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: to Brooks Rescue. I love seeing them come back together.

761
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: After the last time that we saw him confess to

762
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: her that he threw the brick through her windshield and

763
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: it's just too hard for him to be friends with

764
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: her anymore. We needed that friendship back, We needed them

765
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: to come back together. Yeah. And sometimes when you when

766
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: you're you know you're smarting because you don't quite know

767
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: what to say after a fight. Yeah. The the swooping

768
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: in and standing up for someone and essentially proclaiming to

769
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: other people why you love them, you know, it's that

770
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: was that was like a love letter in action, and

771
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: it reminded them both how much they cared about each

772
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: other's friendships. And it was just so sweet, you know,

773
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: for Brooke to be seen for who she is, not

774
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: not her popularity or what people assume about her, and

775
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: and for Mouth to be, you know, the hero in

776
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: front of the whole school. I just loved it. Yeah,

777
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: me too. A lot of knights in shining armor in

778
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: this episode. You know, we've got saving the Day, We've

779
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: got Jake Jakalski just being a smoke show. Andy. I

780
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: was just gonna say with the iconic line, I do

781
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: tend to get what I get what I wanted. He's

782
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: coming for Dan and you called it so if you

783
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: said Dan, look at Paul make the choice to have

784
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: Dany rattled at the end of that scene. It was

785
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: so smart. Little we needed it. We needed to know

786
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: that Dan is capable of being rattled by someone. Yeah,

787
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: And it was just a flash on Paul's face. But

788
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: it was such a good choice as an actor to

789
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: play the bravado and then to go oh oh, like

790
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 1: what's going to happen? And then you see Andy outside

791
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: like he's got a steak out, like in his suburban

792
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: calling some guy on his cell phone, and I'm like,

793
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: what is he gonna do? I can't for next week? Honestly,

794
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I can't wait. Catherine, was was

795
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: Karen part of your hangouts? Too? Did you guys hang? Okay?

796
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: So Kieren and I did a movie before I got No, Yes,

797
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: we did. It was called See It Fear. What was

798
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: it about besides fear on the open waters? It was

799
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: in the sea and we were on a boat and

800
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: one thing nobody knows, but they didn't allow fake blood

801
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: on that boat because it was a very nice yacht.

802
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: So we had to kitchup, you're gonna say, so we

803
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: had to bleed Kieren and our boyfriend and girlfriend on

804
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: that movie. So when I got once you re heal,

805
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: I got there and Kieren already had a recurring role,

806
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: so I knew joy and I grew Kieren and so

807
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: like I had some friends, thank God, because I was

808
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: there for so long and I was like, I need

809
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 1: to make friends do it. Oh my god, I love

810
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: it so much. The last piece, we definitely need to

811
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: address those and Karen because we haven't really touched on

812
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: that up. That scene was so beautiful and to watch,

813
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: I will say one thing I loved was watching her

814
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: get ultimately vulnerable with Nathan, this mother who's lost his son,

815
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: and this this boy who's you know, lost his family

816
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: and his wife. It it interestingly made Andy getting protective

817
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: over her even more exciting to me because he's taking

818
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: action because he's seeing what it's doing to her. But

819
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: we as the viewers, get to see her confide in

820
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: someone else and you, and and it gives you the

821
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: feeling like all these people's emotions are just spilling out everywhere.

822
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was a great choice. I agree. I

823
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: loved seeing James let himself be that vulnerable he hasn't

824
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: done that on the show yet, and his voice cracking

825
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: like that. God, it broke my heart for him. Yeah,

826
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: me too. And watching Karen be the support system that

827
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: he never had and the weird switching roles that the

828
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: boy are doing in Lucas living with Dan talking about books,

829
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: being like Buddy buddy so awful. And the fact that Karen,

830
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: in her moment of need, in her hour of need,

831
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: missing her son, having Nathan ironically be the one that

832
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: comes to her and trusts her. It's such a beautiful storytelling.

833
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: And you know we talked about healing. What an interesting

834
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: healing thing I imagine for the subconscious to have Dan

835
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: Scott's son apologize I'm sorry my dad was such a

836
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: dick to you. Yeah, miss Row, I'm sorry. That must

837
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: have really hurt you. Oh that makes me want to cry.

838
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. Well, we know why Nathan is so upset.

839
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: It's because Haley is a smoke shows by her sweet

840
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: the Records makeover with the smoky eye and like the

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00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: sexy Halter top in this episode, it was such a

842
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: delight to see your rock and roll girl makeover. It

843
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: was for me too. I was like, Oh, I like that. Yeah,

844
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: I really, I think this is so interesting to watch

845
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 1: Haley now that I'm kind of watching as a third party. Uh.

846
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: And I've seen Haley's trajectory, watching her go and do

847
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: this thing that's like it's like partially for herself, but

848
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: it's not totally without selfish motives. In a negative way, like,

849
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: there's some things that are good that you need to

850
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: do for yourself and your own dreams and all that,

851
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: but there's there's something about it that is the secrecy,

852
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: the hiddenness, that tucking something away, that the independence. Yeah,

853
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: but it's like longing for independence, but she's doing it

854
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: the wrong way. She's doing it in a sly secretive

855
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: way instead of trusting Nathan. I like se flaw, Yeah,

856
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: I like I like that Haley was a kid doing

857
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: this rather than an adult going, let's sit down and

858
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: have a mature convert station. Tell me what you're really feeling,

859
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what I'm really feeling. And then

860
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do this thing and I'll call you

861
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: and your FaceTime every day and check in. Which is

862
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: who she's always been. Yeah, and by the way, it's

863
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: who we should all be in our real relationships. But

864
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: it's less interesting to watch on TV watching Haley have

865
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: a secret and and rebel and be bad and refuse

866
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: to call home and and everyone's tortured and she doesn't care.

867
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: You're like, what is going? Oh my god? And it

868
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: makes it exciting because I want to know why she's

869
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: suddenly behaving like this like, why is our friend going

870
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: off the deep end? She's a bad girl. Guys, She's

871
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: a bad It makes me wonder what Haley is most

872
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: likely too is now. It's like she's she used to

873
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: be most likely to, you know, be the friend you

874
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 1: could rely on, and now I'm like, I don't know, Catherine. Um,

875
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: we do a bit on this show called most Likely

876
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: To where we spin a wheel and we have to

877
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: declare a character and also a real life actor from

878
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: our show. Um, as that most likely to, We're gonna

879
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: spend the wheel right now, you're gonna help us figure

880
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 1: this out? Okay, then okay fine, most likely to leave

881
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: acting and take up golfing, Sofia, no, shut up. In

882
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: real life, Baby Jenny is now at college on a

883
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: golfing scholarship. She's like, you g a, oh my god.

884
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: Mace Holcomb, who played Baby Jenny Jake's baby, is like

885
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: it makes me feel a thousand years old that she

886
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: is in college, especially as like we're seeing all these

887
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: scenes of us like college yes, yes, no, no, no

888
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: no no no, yeah, sure is and she's going to

889
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: be on TV soon. Her mom like, I'm from Facebook

890
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: friends with her mom, and her mom posts she's going

891
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: to be on tv um because she's like in the

892
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: p g A circuit she's doing ordinarily well it's insane,

893
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: so um, I guess, I guess, baby Jenny. What's her name? Oh? No,

894
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: Grace in real life? Okay, which character do we think

895
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: off believe what their profession is to just just retire

896
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: and be a golf h m hmm. I feel like

897
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: I feel like Skills would do that if he, if

898
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: he can. Our go to answers are always mouth and

899
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: skills and favorite characters. I don't know it's so true

900
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: character wise. Maybe Andy, Oh yeah, he doesn't need a job.

901
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: He's rich. He does. That's right, that feels fair. Yeah,

902
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: that's a good answer. Golf really reads as like a

903
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: very wealthy man's Yeah. Yeah. Dennis always played golf, except

904
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: for Michael, dentist from North Carolina who had a boat.

905
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: Loved him. Oh yeah, the hot dentist. We'll talk about

906
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: that a different hot days. By the way, nothing better

907
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: than like having a hot dentist but who also has

908
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: a cool wife and cute kids and they just like

909
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: take you out on their boat. I was like, can

910
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 1: you guys adopt me? Like? What is this life? You lead.

911
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: I love it. Here was a dream. God, it was lovely. Catherine.

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00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming and being on our show.

913
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you were here. Hey, tell your cute husband.

914
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: We said, Hi, he's watching some show. See. The thing

915
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: is we want has he seen you in this show?

916
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: Going to see me? Has he seen you in oh? Um?

917
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: You know what? I think he might some scenes you

918
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: might need to But I was watching this episode in

919
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Speaker 1: the d N earlier and I was like, baby, come

920
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: see baby Katherine. Yeah, yeah, check a load of this. Hey,

921
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Speaker 1: look at look, look at a little bitch Katherine. Um,

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Speaker 1: which hadn't really changed that much anyway. Next episode, Season two,

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