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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm Still a love addition as the Bengals set

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Speaker 2: the stage for a huge game next week against the

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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos by beating Cleveland twenty four to six. Coming

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Speaker 2: up radio replays, locker room comments and postgame analysis.

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Speaker 1: From Dave Lapham.

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Speaker 2: Then, in this week's Fun Facts Conversation, you'll get to

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Speaker 1: Of the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Now here's a quick reminder that you can have the

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Speaker 2: or computer by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's

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Speaker 2: the greatest thing since Joe Burrow's Christmas Gift. I don't

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Speaker 2: know who started the tradition, but for many years NFL

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks have rewarded the anonymous men who try to protect

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Speaker 2: them from pass rushers by buying them expensive Christmas gifts.

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Speaker 2: We're talking cars, Rolex's, shares of stock, just about anything

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Speaker 2: you can imagine. Well, this year, Joe Burrow bought his

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman something that none of them imagined. Burrow gave

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Speaker 2: his offensive lineman authentic Japanese samurai swords. He put them

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Speaker 2: all in a room and had each lineman pick one

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Speaker 2: out based on a quick Internet search. Handmade samurai swords,

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Speaker 2: known as katanas, can run more than twenty five thousand

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Speaker 1: Here's Joe.

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Speaker 3: They wanted guns, and I was like, I don't know

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Speaker 3: about guns, guys, And so I was in the weapon

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Speaker 1: I was Michael, what's cool?

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Speaker 4: Weapon?

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Speaker 1: SAMAI swords I think are pretty dank cool.

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Speaker 3: And Nicole she works for me and she was able

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Speaker 3: to go and find them for me. So she did

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Speaker 3: a great job finding the best ones out there.

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Speaker 1: So I think guys were excited about it.

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Speaker 2: Would I rather have a new car or a Rolex maybe,

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Speaker 2: but giving out authentic samurai swords is about as unique

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Speaker 2: as the quarterback himself. Now, time for the radio replays

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Speaker 2: from Sunday's win over Cleveland. It is a bitterly cold

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Speaker 2: December afternoon here in Cincinnati as we get set for

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Speaker 2: the one hundred and third Battle of Ohio. It's the

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Speaker 2: Bengals versus the Cleveland Browns in a game the Bengals

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Speaker 2: must win to keep their playoff hopes alive.

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Speaker 1: First and goal inside the one.

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Speaker 2: They handed off to Deontay Foreman Shaka Hayward grabbed him

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Speaker 2: near the one, but couldn't bring them down shy of

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Speaker 2: the goal line. It's a touchdown for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals say they have the ball, but an official

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Speaker 1: They had it.

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Speaker 2: First down and goal inside the one. Deontay Foreman, at

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Speaker 2: Von Bell, with a right hand cross punched it out,

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Speaker 2: then recovered it and although one official said it was

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Speaker 2: was clearly out and the Bengals takeover at their own

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Speaker 2: Yo Si Bosh in the slot to the right, Burrow

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Speaker 5: Nice spike.

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Speaker 4: Yoshi got some good verdic catalie off of that spike

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Speaker 2: Kye York is ready from the Bengals logo in the

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Speaker 2: Third down and six from the Cincinnati eight. A big

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Speaker 2: play here with the Bengals up by eleven. Shotgun snap

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Speaker 2: Thompson Robinson lobbs went into the end zone, intercepted by

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Speaker 2: where Geno Stone has come away with a pick Djivy

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati seventeen, Cleveland six, and on fourth and twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: Burrow in the gun. It's a long count for Joe

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Speaker 2: got it. Got the Browns to go off side. This

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Speaker 2: is a free play. Throws a deep ball for Chase

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase with his sixteenth touchdown catch.

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Speaker 1: Defensive number ninety five. That penalty has declined.

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Speaker 2: The result of the play is a touchdown and Jamar

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Speaker 2: Pickens single season Bengals record of seventeen touchdown grab man.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you you got Cameron Mitchell is just cooked,

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Speaker 6: Let Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals have won three straight, they have pulled within

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Speaker 2: a game of five hundred, and most importantly, they have

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Speaker 2: set up a game next Saturday here at pay Corpse

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Speaker 2: Stadium with gigantic stakes and huge playoff implications, as the

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Speaker 2: Bengals will host the Denver Broncos, the team they are

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Speaker 2: chasing for the final playoff spot in the AFC. So

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Speaker 2: after being zero to three and four and eight, the

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Speaker 2: Here are Zach Taylor, Joe Burrow, and Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 7: This is what it's supposed to feel like for us,

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Speaker 7: you know, this is our expectation, and we just put

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Speaker 7: And in this we didn't want to talk about what

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Speaker 7: how much I respect that that team we played today

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Speaker 7: and what they can do to you, and you had

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Speaker 7: felt great about guys being locked in and focused during

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Speaker 7: the game, found a way to get the win, and

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Speaker 7: now we can turn our focus to a short week

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Speaker 7: in the Denver Broncost.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels good to playing big games. That's why

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Speaker 6: That's why we work so hard.

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Speaker 3: You know, everything that I do in the off season

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Speaker 3: great at the end of the year in these big

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Speaker 3: games coming up. So that's it's exciting to be still

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Speaker 3: be in it. Guys work really hard, coaches work really hard,

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Speaker 3: so it's nice to rattle off a couple wins here.

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Speaker 8: I feel like we already the most dangerous team, you

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Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, And people fear us, you know

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Speaker 8: what I'm saying. But it's gonna come down to just

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Speaker 2: All right more on the updated playoff picture. In just

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Speaker 2: to bet, first, some offensive numbers, Joe Burrow through for

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty two yards with three touchdowns, no picks,

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Speaker 2: his second best of the year. Burrow leads the NFL

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Speaker 2: in passing yards with one hundred thirty four more than

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff. He leads in touchdown passes with thirty nine.

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Speaker 2: That's two more than Lamar Jackson, and Joe has now

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Speaker 2: thrown at least three touchdown passes in seven consecutive games

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Speaker 2: since the NFL AFL merger in nineteen seventy. The only

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks with streaks that long are Tom Brady with ten,

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Speaker 2: like Burrow, with seven. Jamar Chase had six catches for

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Speaker 2: ninety seven yards in a touchdown and continues to lead

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Speaker 2: eight catches to lead Amen Ross, Saint Brown and Brock

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Speaker 2: Bauers by seven. A Bengals single season record of one

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Speaker 2: thy five hundred ten yards that's one hundred twenty three

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Speaker 2: four more than the next best guy, Terry McLaurin. Then

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Speaker 2: there's Chase Brown, who had one hundred and nine combined

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Speaker 2: rushing and receiving yards to top the century mark for

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Speaker 2: the fifth straight game. He spoke to Dave Lapham in

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Speaker 4: Room, Chase Brown getting it done again. Eighteen carries, ninety

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Speaker 4: one yards. I think it was eighteen more receiving on

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Speaker 4: a few catch one hundred and ten yard scrimmage yards.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're automatic, man, I mean just check the

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Speaker 4: box on hundred scrimmag yards plus every game.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm just doing my job right now. Offenses executing

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Speaker 9: and that's all you can ask for is so focus

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Speaker 9: on the Broncos right now. It's really one game season

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Speaker 9: right now. So everything kind of rests on this short

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Speaker 2: So a lot of work, a lot of focus, a

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Speaker 9: Getting our bodies back and you know, going out there

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Speaker 9: on Saturday and being the best team.

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Speaker 4: The last time the Bengals swept the Cleveland Browns was

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Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. Nothing to take lightly to sweep the Cleveland

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Speaker 4: Browns in the Battle of Ohio.

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Speaker 4: So what do you think, I mean, what was your

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Speaker 9: Do you really don't, You really don't. I Mean that's

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Speaker 4: So when you were running the football today, what was

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we were getting up to the second

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Speaker 1: In next week.

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Speaker 4: Seven straight games, Joe Burrow has three touchdown passes. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think he's one of five quarterbacks to ever do that.

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Speaker 9: He's a really good quarterback, so he deserves all that, man, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, he should be up there with those guys.

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Speaker 9: And when you hear Joe Burrow and Tom Brady, it's

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Speaker 4: So your defense to hold the Cleveland Browns to six points,

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Speaker 5: Was that huge?

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Speaker 9: I mean, especially when they're getting though chances to get

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Speaker 4: Great effort once again today. Appreciate your what you did

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Brown now has nine hundred twenty three rushing yards with

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Speaker 1: Of the year.

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Speaker 2: I caught up with him after the game. Gino, that's

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Speaker 2: three straight games with an interception. Got an assist on

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Speaker 6: No, it was kind of just cover one.

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Speaker 10: Me playing a post and scrambled with guy you know,

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Speaker 2: Described the job you guys did against Dorian Thompson Robinson

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Speaker 6: Now, I thought we did a great job.

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Speaker 10: you know, plastard and you know, had great covers in

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Speaker 10: that first play the game I played, we did a

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Speaker 2: Though. How big was von els play to snuff their

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Speaker 10: Now, it's huge, it's huge, you know, I feel like

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Speaker 10: we got altimate mentum back after that they kind of

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Speaker 6: Everybody played by one.

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Speaker 2: Three straight games with a pick. Second time in your

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Speaker 2: career you've done that. How do you feel about your

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Speaker 10: No, I feel comfortable as all. Honestly, I feel great.

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Speaker 10: You know, I'm happy we're winning, so it's always a

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Speaker 2: You've set up a game with huge stakes next week

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, you know, if you can handle it next week.

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Speaker 10: You know they got a really good team coming in,

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Speaker 10: got Our body's ready to get ready to go next week.

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Speaker 1: You had the pick.

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Speaker 2: Uh, there was another pick by Jordan Battle in the

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Speaker 2: end zone. Six takeaways last week. This defense is making

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like we're doing at the right time.

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Speaker 10: You know, it's great to play a meaningful game next

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Speaker 10: at the end of the day, we got we gotta

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Speaker 6: It was open and.

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Speaker 2: Let's not forget about special teams. Ryan Rico averaged more

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Speaker 2: Money Mack in the Bengals record book. Here's my conversation

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Speaker 2: with the Bengals kicker the title franchise record Kate a

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Speaker 2: fifty nine yard field goal just before the half. Did

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Speaker 11: No, I had no clue, and I'm almost kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the circumstances were interesting.

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Speaker 2: Had the Browns called a time out with about forty

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I would assume so. And it was cold out

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: My analyst Dave Lapham said, a fifty nine yard or

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Speaker 11: No, definitely, not especially like one Like k balls are

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Speaker 11: So yeah, it's a lot of things combined into making it.

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Speaker 11: That's why you see some guys can hit eighty yarders

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Speaker 1: I went to it.

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Speaker 11: I did hit it really really well. Once I hated,

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Speaker 11: I turned back and like celebrated it, and I was.

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Speaker 6: The ball is like halfway there, and.

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Speaker 11: I'm like, oh, it's I forgot how cold it was.

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Speaker 11: That ball doesn't look like it's flying as far.

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Speaker 1: So it worked out.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants the video of the premature celebration on a

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Speaker 11: Like, oh, it's just like donks right back at you. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: Though we're visiting with Kid York.

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Speaker 2: Any extra feeling from doing it against your former.

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Speaker 11: Team, The only extra feeling I wouldn't say coming into

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Speaker 11: Diabaate was telling me I didn't have the leg for

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Speaker 10: It at me.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I just hope you hear this though we cannot email

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Speaker 2: How has this stint been for you, this opportunity with

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Speaker 11: It's been great. I love my time here. The guys

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Speaker 11: Leve's spend sound Ryan and cow and Darren obviously has

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Speaker 1: Your name's in the Bengals record book. Congrats.

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Speaker 6: I love that.

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Speaker 1: That's Kate York.

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Speaker 2: So the Bengals did what they needed to do, but

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Speaker 1: They need the.

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Speaker 4: So here we are with Bengals head coach Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Heck of a football game today. I mean all phases.

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Speaker 4: What about your defense holding them to six points?

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Speaker 7: I was standing, you know, our defense, Roy gave us

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Speaker 5: Of drives, and so just just roy out of the way.

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Speaker 5: Those guys created turnovers.

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Speaker 7: Got red zone stops, and give us a chance to

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Speaker 4: I don't think I can remember a game where both

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Speaker 4: I mean both both teams had that happen to them.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a that's a crazy thing. I guess

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Speaker 4: if you, like we always talk about, you watch enough football,

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 7: a great job protecting the ball when we're down there.

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Speaker 7: I thought Von died an excellent job coming out the

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Speaker 7: punching it out and recovering it for us. That was

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Speaker 4: And did you ever you go ninety nine yards and

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Speaker 6: A ninety nine yard touchdown drive.

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Speaker 2: That's huge.

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Speaker 7: breath after the first play of the game. Defense bowed up,

447
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Speaker 7: got us the ball back, and then offense goes now.

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Speaker 5: And so that what a great way to start, put.

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Speaker 7: Them in a hole and kind of take some of

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Speaker 7: the life out of them and able to build a

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Speaker 7: seventeen nothing lead in the first half.

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Speaker 4: You know, you made mention of they had the one

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Speaker 4: sixty six yard run, but the rest they had nineteen

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Speaker 4: plays in the first half eighty six net yards. They

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Speaker 4: had the sixty six yard run, then the other eighteen

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Speaker 4: plays they accumulate twenty yards. He had four tackles for

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Speaker 4: loss four on the last four possessions, two sacks to

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Speaker 4: two tackles for loss, I mean twenty yards on eighteen snaps.

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Speaker 4: I mean they were I think three maybe four at

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Speaker 4: least three consecutives three and outs and putting the football

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Speaker 4: back to you.

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Speaker 7: So outs standing, they had control of the game, put

463
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Speaker 7: pressure on the quarterback, a young quarterback, so he could

464
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Speaker 7: never feel comfortable, and then they could establish the run.

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Speaker 7: So I think, you know, as of those the plays

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Speaker 7: you mentioned, so really proud of the effort, the communication,

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Speaker 7: the job that they did on defense.

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Speaker 4: So Joe Burrow three touchdown passes in his seventh straight game.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's in company who got like Tom Brady,

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Speaker 4: Peyton Manning. I mean it's a Hall of fame. Tom

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Speaker 4: Brady did in ten straight games. I think Peyton Manning

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Speaker 4: did it in eight. And in Joe's right there. He's

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Speaker 4: on the list. I think he's one of five. Not

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Speaker 4: only does he play really well, it's every week. I mean,

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Speaker 4: his consistency is crazy, isn't it it is?

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Speaker 5: You know he's Yeah, every week he showed up.

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Speaker 7: He's been consistent and that's that's every game I think

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Speaker 7: he's ever been here. So really proud of him, really

479
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Speaker 7: proud of the guys around him. And he's made some

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Speaker 7: spectacular plays that you can't really describe.

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Speaker 4: Rico average fifty one yards of punt and he had

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Speaker 4: that one that flipped the field for you at a

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Speaker 4: very opportune time. So you mentioned conpanary football, offense, defense

484
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Speaker 4: and special teams did a job for you tonight.

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Speaker 7: Didn't thought the coverage units were great, you know, the

486
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Speaker 7: gunners getting down there and making them uncomfortable and reco

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Speaker 7: doing an excellent job of flipping the field for us

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Speaker 7: in some key moments.

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Speaker 4: Jumee Schwartz gets a lot of talk about what he

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Speaker 4: does as a defensive quarter. You've got one as well

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Speaker 4: in LEU inner room. And I thought on first and

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Speaker 4: second down he was he was bringing all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 4: And I mean it was third and thirteen, third and eleven,

494
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Speaker 4: third and sixteen, and then on third down, you know,

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Speaker 4: he plays some coverage and say, all right, you know,

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Speaker 4: go ahead, try to try to We're not gonna let

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Speaker 4: you convert. We're gonna keep everything in front of us.

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Speaker 4: I thought his game plan was outstanding. I thought his

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Speaker 4: players really executed it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, great plan, guys believed in It really fun to watch,

501
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Speaker 7: you know, especially when you get some stops like they did,

502
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Speaker 7: then your confidence sky rockets and you're able to take

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Speaker 7: it to another level.

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Speaker 5: I thought I saw that today.

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Speaker 4: So Jamar Chase continues to rewrite the record book. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he has almost one hundred yards receiving, he has another

507
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Speaker 4: touchdown catch. He's got sixteen to those, one away from

508
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Speaker 4: the club record that I thought nobody had ever touched. Honestly,

509
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Speaker 4: Carl Pickens with was seventeen of them. But Chase Brown

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Speaker 4: as well, continues to I mean, he gives you another

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Speaker 4: one hundred and ten scrimmage yards, and it seems like

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Speaker 4: every week you can put him in the book for

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Speaker 4: over one hundred scrimmag yards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: No, and he's so close to breaking a big one,

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Speaker 7: you know, And that's just that's part of his game

517
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Speaker 7: right now. And so he's he'e somebody we can lean

518
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Speaker 7: on and get the ball to a lot of different ways.

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Speaker 7: He's explosive and again he's due for a really big

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Speaker 7: one as well.

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Speaker 4: So coach, finally, I know you haven't studied the Denver Broncos,

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Speaker 4: but what's your what'd you tell the team about here

523
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Speaker 4: comes Denver?

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Speaker 1: As it too early to even go there.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, now we know how important this game is.

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Speaker 7: We gave ourselves a chance to play for something that's meaningful,

527
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Speaker 7: you know, and we know what goes into this game.

528
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Speaker 7: We got to win to stay alive and take this

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Speaker 7: thing into the last week of the season with a chance.

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Speaker 7: And so you get a chance just to focus on

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Speaker 7: this team. We don't care about what happens in any

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Speaker 7: of other games. We care about what happens in the

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Speaker 7: Denver game. We got six days to get it right.

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Speaker 7: It'll be a little funky schedule with Christmas, but our

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Speaker 7: guys are committed to getting this done the right way.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations coach, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Sae.

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Speaker 2: Up next a four to thirty home game next Saturday

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Speaker 2: against the nine and six Denver Broncos. If the Bengals win,

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Speaker 2: the final week of the season is going to be

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Speaker 1: Of the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Now time for the radio guys recap, well lapped. The

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Speaker 2: next to last game of the regular season just got

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Speaker 2: a lot bigger. They're going to be major playoff implications

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Speaker 2: next week thanks to a they had to have it

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Speaker 2: victory today over the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no question. I mean, you gotta win them

554
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Speaker 4: one at a time. When they put themselves in the

555
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Speaker 4: positions they put themselves in, you know, you just are

556
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 4: so frustrated when you think back to the way the

557
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Speaker 4: opener went with the with the Norton Patriots, and to

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Speaker 4: go one and four and being close games that they've

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Speaker 4: been in, I mean, and the whole thing. It's like,

560
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Speaker 4: you reflect back, it's a play here and play here there.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, defensively, I thought it was the best

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Speaker 4: game of the year by far. Two hundred and seventy

563
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Speaker 4: three yards offensively, holding to four point three yards per play,

564
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Speaker 4: Cleveland held the Bengals offense to four point two yards

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Speaker 4: per play up in Cleveland Bengals reverse, it held them

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Speaker 4: to four point three yards per snap. I mean, that's

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Speaker 4: that's pretty pretty good. And they obviously suffocated the passing attack.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was it was tough duty

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Speaker 4: out there. Won the turnover battle handily, as they only

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Speaker 4: had one turnover in eight quarters against Cleveland, and they

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Speaker 4: won that part of it. And that's Cleveland's biggest problem.

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Speaker 4: They come into the game minus sixteen third down. You know,

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Speaker 4: they came in at twenty eight percent, the Bengals holding

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Speaker 4: the twenty five percent, So you add fourth down into

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Speaker 4: it where they go one for three. They were four

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Speaker 4: fifteen on third and fourth down. That's that's pretty good.

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Speaker 4: And the reason is early on they got them in

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Speaker 4: third and eleven, third and fourteen, third and sixteen, third

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Speaker 4: and sixteen again, I mean lou Anon Rumo's game plan

580
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Speaker 4: on first and second down, pressure packages, get them off schedule,

581
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Speaker 4: tackle for lost sack or whatever, and then third down

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Speaker 4: play more coverage, you know, rush rush four, drop seven

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Speaker 4: into coverage, rush three, drop eight into coverage. I thought

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Speaker 4: it was, you know, a really really sound game plan

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Speaker 4: against an inexperienced quarterback, and the players executed it really well.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the big play that Von Bell

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Speaker 2: made on the opening drive. Vaughn has lost his starting

588
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Speaker 2: job to Jordan Battle. He's a proud VET who's had

589
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Speaker 2: a great career, a huge reason why the Bengals went

590
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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl in twenty twenty one. He makes

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Speaker 2: that play, he's out there on special teams. I've got

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Speaker 2: a lot of admiration for what he's doing right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the respect that his teammates

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Speaker 4: have for him has increased. And that's a huge play

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Speaker 4: that he made. And how about the offense. Okay, we'll

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Speaker 4: play companenty football. Let's go ninety nine for a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: You don't see that happened very often. And then later

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Speaker 4: in the game, the Bengals offense turns it over inside

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Speaker 4: the one yard line. I can't remember the last time

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Speaker 4: at any level of football I saw both offenses turn

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Speaker 4: it over in the lowest of low red zones. I mean,

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Speaker 4: there were a lot of crazy things that happened in

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Speaker 4: this football game, and that was one of my von

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Speaker 4: Bell made a huge play to get things, you know,

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Speaker 4: turned around again because I mean Ford bust Dets sixty

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Speaker 4: six yard run. Thought, oh boy, you know they get

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Speaker 4: on the board first. You know, could give him a

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Speaker 4: real boost in the arm and all that sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: But that was massive. To have the takeaway and then

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Speaker 4: go the length of the football field virtually, you can't

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Speaker 4: go any longer than they went. To take a seven

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Speaker 4: to nothing lead and score first, I thought was big.

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Speaker 2: And that first touchdown comes on a face plant touchdown

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Speaker 2: pass from Burrow to Higgins. We've reached the point now

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Speaker 2: where Joe is actually entertaining himself. I mean the jump

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Speaker 2: pass touchdown against the Steelers. Now this one, he's falling

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Speaker 2: flat in his face and he somehow manages to fling

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Speaker 2: it into the end zone to t Higgins. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: has you know, earned a lot of plaudits for some

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Speaker 2: of the crazy things he's done. In addition to the

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Speaker 2: great normal play Joe has made this year. Now he's

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Speaker 2: adding these crazy ones.

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Speaker 4: And you know he is any kind of quarterback guru

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Speaker 4: that is coaching young quarterbacks. Talk about platform you know,

625
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: the right foot and has to have a foundation with

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Speaker 4: that right foot, transfer your weight to your left foot,

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Speaker 4: you know, throw, take the stride, throw the football. You know,

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Speaker 4: it has to be proper mechanics. I mean Joe is platformless,

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Speaker 4: you know. I mean he can throw off his front foot,

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Speaker 4: throw off his back foot, throw off no feet. You know,

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Speaker 4: he leaves his feet, jump passes, or leaves his feet

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Speaker 4: because he tripped on a teammate and is going to

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Speaker 4: the ground. But the thing about him is like he

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Speaker 4: saw saw an opportunity before he actually tripped on Ted's

635
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Speaker 4: foot and then kept his head up you know enough

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Speaker 4: where he delivered an accurate football. So I think that's

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Speaker 4: the biggest thing with him is his overall awareness of

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Speaker 4: the game. I mean, every single thing about the game

639
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Speaker 4: of football. Joe Burrow has basically achieved at.

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Speaker 6: A high level.

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Speaker 4: He understands what he has to do, his protocols to

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Speaker 4: get there. He just understands every single nuance, every single

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Speaker 4: thing that you need to understand to be an unbelievable quarterback.

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Speaker 6: He has it all.

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Speaker 2: You've had a great comment during the broadcast. I thought

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Speaker 2: about how good he's become when he's running straight ahead,

647
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Speaker 2: often at high speed, and delivering throws in perfect locations

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Speaker 2: under those circumstances. I'm going to used to seeing guys

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Speaker 2: go left and right making throws on the run, but

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Speaker 2: he's now mastered that. Sprinting forward and delivering bebies and accurately.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing. A lot of guys they'll

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Speaker 4: go on the ground, or they'll sail or whatever. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, he has that part of the down. He

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Speaker 4: is so he has such great body control. He is

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Speaker 4: and knows exactly where every body part is. And it's

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Speaker 4: how it relates to what he wants to get done.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he is. It's unbelievable how he releases the

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Speaker 4: football from the same place, you know, different platforms, different uh.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he just creates ways to get rid of

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Speaker 4: the football, but he always gets rid of the football

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Speaker 4: at a perfect spot. I mean his release is the same,

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Speaker 4: he'll change the same. He'll he'll released out of his

663
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: hand the same way. That doesn't change, but he'll he'll

664
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Speaker 4: change the launch point. I mean he'll change the release

665
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: angle arm angle kind of thing. And of course you

666
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: know he changes the launch point all the time. Climb

667
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: the pocket, out of pocket, climb the pocket and reverse

668
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: go back backward in the pocket, I mean, side to

669
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 4: side in the pocket. He is he's one of one.

670
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, to have a guy with his movement skills.

671
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: And again, when he's moving, you know, like DTR is

672
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: moving and he will he'll looking down the field trying

673
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 4: to make a play. But Joe, I mean DTR is

674
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: looking where can I run next? Joe is always down

675
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: the football field. He is always seeing how things are

676
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: run full, how how his teammates are improvising. And it

677
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 4: is like we said before, you know, his vision is

678
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: three sixty. You know, it's his his peripheral is like it,

679
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: like he has eyes on the side in the back

680
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: of his head.

681
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

682
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be interesting to know if that's been measured,

683
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: if he has freakishly good peripheral vision. I mean, if

684
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: whatever degrees. The normal human being can see way off

685
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: to their left and way off to the right. I

686
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: wonder if he sees more degrees than the rest.

687
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 6: Of us, and he has.

688
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of quarterbacks, the great ones, have

689
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: a clock in their head and you know they'll count

690
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: the second. Joe Burrow has a clock that goes to

691
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: the hundredth second. It's not just he's just not counting

692
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 4: down seconds. I mean it's like, how the hell did

693
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: you know to do that exactly? Then you know, it's like, jeez,

694
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 4: he's uh. He continues to amaze. I mean, every single

695
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: week he's going to do something. It's like, what, man,

696
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: I never saw that before. I can't believe he did that.

697
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: I mean he is must see viewing or listening on

698
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 4: a weekly basis.

699
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: So they've won three straight. The defense has played pretty

700
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: well in those games, but the starting quarterbacks in those

701
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: games have been Cooper Rush and whoever started for the

702
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: Titans last week. I'm drawing a break well Levis and

703
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson today. So how much is it The

704
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: Bengals defense is improving and the young guys are taking

705
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: positive steps forward, and how much is it all?

706
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 5: Right?

707
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: They've managed to cobble together three good games against quarterbacks

708
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: that weren't great.

709
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 4: I think we'll find out next week. I mean, Bo

710
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 4: Nix is a young guy in the NFL, but he's

711
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 4: got sixty one college starts. I mean he's not immature.

712
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: I mean he's an older guy. He's a mature guy.

713
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 4: I think his teammates probably feel like, shoot, he's already

714
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: a five year vet, you know, when they're thinking about

715
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: this guy. I think his coaches think the same way.

716
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think there's anything that they can't

717
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 4: We can't go there with him. He can't handle that.

718
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: He can't handle that mentally or physically. He's a very

719
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 4: a very accomplished guy. But you know, I don't think

720
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 4: that he can do the things for his football team

721
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: that Joe Burrow can do for the Cincinnati Bengals quite yet.

722
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 4: But it is going to be interesting because I think

723
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: based on today, with a young quarterback, you think that

724
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: lou Anrumo may still do some of the pressure packages

725
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 4: and you know, the fake pressure packages and all that

726
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 4: that he was doing to get in DTR's head. Can

727
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 4: he do it with Bo Nicks And what will vance

728
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: Joseph do and there's a guy with his doctorate in

729
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: all that stuff, and how much of that will he

730
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: do with Joe Burrow or will he feel man, you know,

731
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 4: if it doesn't get there, I'm totally exposed. He's going

732
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: to have too many explosives. You know, I'm going to

733
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 4: have to kind of, you know, modify it a little bit,

734
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: or not quite do as much of it, or you know,

735
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. It's going to be interesting

736
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,479
Speaker 4: to see how these guys game plan and how during

737
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: the course of the the game, you know, the circumstances

738
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: taking place in unfolding during the course of the game

739
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 4: changed their approach and thought to what they're doing.

740
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: Sounded like you're optimistic that Orlando Brown Junior will be back.

741
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: I'd be shocked if he isn't, particularly now with Mims

742
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 4: hurting a little bit. I think, you know, knowing Orlando

743
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 4: Brown and how much playing means to him, I think

744
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: if if he can do it at all, he's gonna

745
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 4: go out there and do it. Because against this team,

746
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 4: number one in the league in sacks, I believe, number

747
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: one in the league in defense, uh you know, number

748
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 4: number one or number two points allowed. I mean this

749
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: this defensive football team is top five and top three

750
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 4: in a bunch of significant categories. So to have both

751
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 4: of your your big stud offensive tackles down. And what

752
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 4: about the offensive tackle position. I mean, during the course

753
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 4: of the year, you lose Brown, you know, first Brown,

754
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 4: then now Orlando is struggling, and now you know Mims

755
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: is struggling physically, man the offensive tackle position for the

756
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals this season has been the injury Guds just said,

757
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 4: did al shalt have issues at offensive tackle?

758
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: That puts a rap on the Cleveland when Now it's

759
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: time for this week's fun fact segment where you get

760
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: to know the person under the pads. Time for some

761
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: fun facts with offensive lineman Devin Cochrane. You are from

762
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 2: the Atlanta area. Tell me more specifically about where you

763
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: grew up and what you like about your hometown.

764
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 12: For sure, moved all around. Initially in Southwest Atlanta. We

765
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 12: end up moving to Northeast Atlanta, where I kind of

766
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 12: went from elementary school up to middle school. I was

767
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 12: in private school, so it wasn't really a district deal.

768
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 12: And then we ended up moving to Lilburn by Stone Mountain, Georgia.

769
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Speaker 2: Your mom is a college professor. Correct, Yes, where does

770
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 2: she teach and what does she teach?

771
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 12: Right now? She's been doing a lot of online classes,

772
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 12: but she's taught at many places Spellman, She's taught at

773
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 12: Georgia State Perimeter, and she's a sociology teacher.

774
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 6: She has our PhD in sociology.

775
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: Did you have strict rules about grades before being able

776
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 2: to play sports and things like that as a kid, Not.

777
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 12: Really before playing sports, but if my grades ever slipped,

778
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 12: I was definitely hearing about it, and my mom was very,

779
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 12: very present in the PTA or PTO, whatever it is,

780
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 12: going to school and making sure that was getting my

781
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 12: work done.

782
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: Visiting with Devin Cochran, were you involved in any activities

783
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 2: outside of sports?

784
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 6: Absolutely? Yeah.

785
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 12: Before I really got into sports, I played piano for

786
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 12: nine years. I played upright bass for four or five years,

787
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 12: guitar for a few years, chess, club basketball, besides football

788
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 12: and track and field, a little throwing.

789
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: So if you see a piano in a hotel lobby,

790
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: can you sit down and bang something out?

791
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 12: I really can, but it won't be good. I'd have

792
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 12: to practice, And to be honest with you, you know, with

793
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 12: the whole football thing and the hands, you know, I

794
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 12: mean an o linement. It's really actually restricted me from

795
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 12: being able to play all the instruments I like to play.

796
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: That's unfortunate. One of the unfortunate whist of the trade.

797
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 6: You have to make a choice. I chose. I remember

798
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 6: my high school.

799
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 12: Football coach told me in ninth or tenth grade, because

800
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 12: we had an orchestra field trip. He told me, you

801
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 12: have to make a choice. And because it was either

802
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 12: orchestra field trip or I think a scrimmage, and I

803
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 12: chose football, and that was it.

804
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: We're chatting with Devin cochrane. You're a big band six

805
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: seven three thirty a wing span of more than seven feet.

806
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: Did you always tower over the other kids?

807
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: Uh?

808
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, mostly?

809
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 12: I think maybe in third grade there was a kid

810
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 12: who was taller than me then, but the last time

811
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 12: I saw him, I was I was much taller than

812
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 12: him and everybody else.

813
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: So you caught up and passed them.

814
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: When it came time to choose a college, you picked

815
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt over some traditional football powers. Why Vandy?

816
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 12: I had a really good relationship with Derek Mason, And

817
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 12: then also we took a trip to Nashville.

818
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 6: It was about four We went up in a snowstorm.

819
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 12: Actually it was about four and a half hours away

820
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 12: from Atlanta, and I was content with everything.

821
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 6: I loved the school.

822
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 12: Some of the guys there took me into the Jared Southers,

823
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 12: Bailey Grind, a bunch of guys just I think the

824
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 12: culture was what really brought me to it the most.

825
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 12: And then some guys like the recruiting process. Others don't

826
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 12: the attention, and I think it was more so trying

827
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 12: to learn about every single school because I'm very thorough.

828
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 12: So you know, if I wasn't able to do that

829
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 12: with every school, then there's really no point in doing it.

830
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: So you did not enjoy the process.

831
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 12: Recruiting, No, not as much so.

832
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: One of the most memorable moments of this college football

833
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: season was Vandy beating Alabama and the fans tearing down

834
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: the goalposts and dropping it into the Cumberland River. Were

835
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: you able to watch the game?

836
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 12: I watched the entire game. I was screaming the entire time.

837
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 12: I was calling all my old teammates, and you know,

838
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 12: being at Georgia Tech, a newly found Georgia Tech guy,

839
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 12: I couldn't do anything but root.

840
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 6: For Vanderbilt because you always want to see those guys

841
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 6: go now. You know.

842
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 2: So you did finish your college career at Georgia Tech

843
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: after spending the first four years at Vandy. Was it

844
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: great for you to experience something else?

845
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

846
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 12: One of the biggest I think reasons for the change

847
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 12: was just the coach that they had there, Brent Key.

848
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 12: He was an offensive line coach at Alabama, coached a

849
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 12: lot of greats, Cam Robinson and a lot of other guys,

850
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 12: and that experience was I think where I was really

851
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 12: able to hone in my craft and realize what it

852
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 12: was that I didn't have. And ever since then, I've

853
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 12: been trying to, you know, repair all of those I

854
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 12: think some of the tendencies and some of the things

855
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 12: that I still find in myself doing that hinder my game.

856
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: So after your season at Georgia Tech, it was draft time.

857
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 2: The Bengals brought you here for a pre draft visit.

858
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: What do you remember about that.

859
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 12: I remember trying to walk to a CVS and the

860
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 12: CVS was closed. I think it was a Sunday, I'm kidding, man.

861
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 12: I remember meeting Pollack, I remember seeing Deontay Smith downstairs.

862
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 12: Deontay I played with an Elite Junior Classic game in

863
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 12: high school and that was I think he was one

864
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 12: of the first people I saw when I walked in.

865
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 12: So it was like, as soon as I come in,

866
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 12: familiar face right there. And then from then on it

867
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 12: was just you know, kind of meeting with different people.

868
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 12: And I mean ever since, it's just been history. You know,

869
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 12: I've been here now three years from then?

870
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: Why did you elect to sign with Cincinnati?

871
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 6: I did I sign with Cincinnati?

872
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 12: I mean it was quick, you know how like as

873
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 12: soon as the process is over, you know, you get

874
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 12: your phone calls, coaches call. I remember talking with Pollack,

875
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 12: I remember going through the schemes and everything. I've realized

876
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 12: that this was probably the best opportunity I had. We

877
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 12: my agents and I were happy with just how the

878
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 12: tackle room was going and everything else with the program,

879
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 12: and just thought that I would have a chance. And

880
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 12: years three years later, man, I mean I still you know,

881
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 12: don't don't believe it. But three years later, yeah.

882
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: So you spent your first year on the practice squad

883
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: and then last year you suffered a knee injury during

884
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: training camp and missed the season. How did it happen

885
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: and how severe was it?

886
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: Oh?

887
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 6: Man, it was it was a nightmare.

888
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 12: I was holding a bag and holding a bag standard

889
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 12: day stepped on somebody's foot behind me and it happened,

890
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 12: But it was a miniscus here and the whole I

891
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 12: was out for I mean it was. It was pretty grueling,

892
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 12: but maybe a lot stronger mentally physically. I remember during

893
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 12: that time I started doing some stuff with you know upstairs,

894
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 12: doing some extra film review breakdowns, trying to help the

895
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 12: guys out give different key pointers and different guys. I

896
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 12: think it was able to help with some of my

897
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 12: pass rush recognition, being able to recognize moves. And then

898
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 12: also I took a lot of time in the weight

899
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 12: room with Joey and Garrett. I think back then was

900
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 12: it Todd? I think Todd as well. And I think

901
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 12: that year last year I think was probably some of

902
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 12: I think the most progress I've ever seen in my game,

903
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 12: just because of the small things I never really had

904
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 12: time to do when it came to priority or really elevating.

905
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: It's interesting that you shared that because I had the

906
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: memory of you being around last year while you were rehabbing,

907
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: which is somewhat unusual. Many players will have an injury

908
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: like that and say all right, and I'm gonna go home.

909
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: I'll do my rehab there. I don't need to be around.

910
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: But you took advantage to try to continue to get

911
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: better even though you were limited.

912
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 12: Absolutely, I think the biggest thing that I was thinking

913
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 12: of is how can I contribute when I literally can't contribute?

914
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 12: You know, as a UDFA, I feel like the most

915
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 12: important thing for me to do is always look at

916
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 12: ways to fill deficiencies. Just because you know you're not

917
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 12: as a UDFA, you're not initially brought to immediately fill

918
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 12: a deficiency as a spot as a drafted player is. Therefore,

919
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 12: you have to do a little bit more attentive to

920
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 12: what it is that can be done around here to

921
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 12: help out.

922
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: We're doing fun facts with Devin Cochrane. You got your

923
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: first chance to play a big role in the Tennessee

924
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 2: game recently when Cody Ford got sick.

925
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: How big were the Butterflies.

926
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 12: I don't want to make it sound like not big

927
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 12: at all, but not huge. You brought up the Vanderbilt

928
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 12: Alabama thing, how they played and beat them. I remember

929
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 12: when I was I was a sophomore year, junior year

930
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 12: going up against those guys, you know, I remember going

931
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 12: up against Georgia at Vanderbilt, and I'll tell you one

932
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 12: thing we never really had at Vanderbilt was a home crowd.

933
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 12: You know, my entire career, I always experienced being what

934
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 12: felt like a traumatic environment. And for the first time,

935
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 12: you know, being around some of the elite guys on

936
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 12: this team and knowing that we really do have a

937
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 12: stinking chance. It was like, Okay, I know if I'm

938
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 12: able to fill in and do what it is that

939
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 12: I need to do.

940
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 6: I mean, if I.

941
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 12: Can give Joe three seconds, four seconds, five seconds, you know,

942
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 12: however long it takes, I know we have a chance.

943
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 12: T Jamar, you know, the other guys on the line.

944
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 6: The defense. I knew everybody was gonna step up.

945
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 12: Haven't always been on teams where I was extremely confident

946
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 12: that we would be able to step up. But man,

947
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 12: it's a great feeling when you you know, to be

948
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 12: a part of that first time ever.

949
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: All right, some wild card topics now with Devin Cochrane.

950
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: Who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport?

951
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: And why work done?

952
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 6: Yeah?

953
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 12: Growing up, I remember watching the Falcons and I think

954
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 12: he was just somebody I kind of clinged to because

955
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 12: I wasn't a big football player as a kid. But

956
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 12: my family watched a lot of ball and just that

957
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 12: you know, kind of mid two thousands generation Atlanta culture

958
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 12: that we had going on back downtown and was it

959
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 12: a Jermaine Duprix, you know, the just the culture of

960
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 12: Atlanta it was.

961
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 6: It was a good time to be to be around there.

962
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mentioned your wingspan seven feet two inches. Basically

963
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: when you stretch out your arms, it's Kareem abdul Jabbar.

964
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: How hard is it to find a shirt that fits?

965
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 6: Shirts are tough? Shirts are tough.

966
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 12: You get about a you get one or two wears

967
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 12: out of a shirt and you find yourself given it

968
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 12: to your wife. Shoes are tough. Shoes are really really

969
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 12: difficult with shoes. Seventeen pants are really tough length wise.

970
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 12: And then also, you know, I'm not like a just

971
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 12: like a big, kind of really fat guy. I'm kind

972
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 12: of proportional. So it's like it's difficult to find larger

973
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 12: genes that are proportionally fit to like athletically built men.

974
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 12: So it's it's been it's been more difficult.

975
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 6: But you know there's a.

976
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: Business concept there, you know, clothing for alignment.

977
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, for sure, I've been my mom has giving

978
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 12: me the recommendation before I just I have to build

979
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 12: up a little capital first, you know.

980
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about your schooling. You were working

981
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: toward a master's degree at Georgia Tech. Did you finish

982
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: it and what's the subject?

983
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: Yes?

984
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 12: I finished it and it was program management in the

985
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 12: School of Building Construction. So it was ultimately construction with

986
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 12: a focus in management.

987
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 6: So the overall process.

988
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 12: Of being able to go from beginning to end as

989
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 12: far as not only the construction workers but also pre

990
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 12: excuse me, programming and trying to figure out timing aspects

991
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 12: that we're going to meet deadlines. How do we make

992
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 12: sure that all the processes are working together symbiotically to

993
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 12: make everything work.

994
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: Would you like to be involved in that someday or

995
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 2: do you hope to play ten plus years in the NFL,

996
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: make millions and millions and kickback.

997
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 12: I hope to play for fifteen years in the NFL,

998
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 12: make millions and kickback, and then go and be able

999
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 12: to have my own GC and potentially do something that

1000
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 12: nature for sure.

1001
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: All right, final fun fact for Devin Cochr. And this

1002
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: one's kind of deep. If you could meet anyone in

1003
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: history living or deceased. Who would that person be?

1004
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 6: King David?

1005
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, King David, And I would just ask what was

1006
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 12: going through his head during David versus Good Life.

1007
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 6: That's all it is. I just want to hear what

1008
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 6: was it?

1009
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 12: And then I mean even so from that point on,

1010
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 12: you know, the transformation from going from a small child

1011
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 12: to ultimately a great king. Because you know, when I

1012
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 12: think about football, I think about you know, this past

1013
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 12: week and I went in, you know, rookie.

1014
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 6: Everybody thought, you know, hey, he's.

1015
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 12: Going to get screwed, and you know, there were some

1016
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 12: times where it was it was pretty tough. But I

1017
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 12: want to make a transformation to be great, you know,

1018
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 12: and that has to start somewhere and that's where I

1019
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 12: feel like it started this past weekend.

1020
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 6: So make that transformation.

1021
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: It's a great answer. This was fun.

1022
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: Appreciate your time, past the luck the rest of the way.

1023
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

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