Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Too Cheese and
Speaker 2: a Pod with Teddy mellon Camp and Tambora Judge.
Speaker 1: Hello, they're hi, tam.
Speaker 2: I can't believe I almost wore your same cupa salty
Speaker 2: hat today, But I know.
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Speaker 2: And what is south? What is North Orange County?
Speaker 1: I think like more towards like Anahei and Bria, those
Speaker 1: are like North Orange County. But we're like way south,
Speaker 1: you know. Okay, Newport's even you know, farther away from us,
Speaker 1: like thirty minutes, but we're like, it's basically it's me,
Speaker 1: Gina and Emily.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: I over here, Yeah, that's what I and Jen. Jen
Speaker 1: lives over here too.
Speaker 2: Jen lives over there too. Oh, yeah, all right. Well,
Speaker 2: we are recapping episodes eight and nine of Secret Lives
Speaker 2: of Mormon Wives. It starts out where Taylor presents an
Speaker 2: award at the CMAS. Taylor posts about her experience and
Speaker 2: no mom talk, no one in mom talk comments Okay,
Speaker 2: this I found very bizarre, this entire exchange in what
Speaker 2: way because I sat there like, honestly team Taylor, like
Speaker 2: I'm going, okay.
Speaker 1: Well, she just took it too far. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I I hate to tell you, Demi,
Speaker 1: but Taylor might be the fan favorite, less the CMA's
Speaker 1: favorite because she was invited to present and you were not.
Speaker 1: But the girls not commenting on Taylor's post kind of
Speaker 1: says it all.
Speaker 2: I think there was, But does it say it all
Speaker 2: if they got a text message, if they were texting her, Like,
Speaker 2: I gotta be really honest with you. I believed, like
Speaker 2: I understand Taylor being upset until the girls half of
Speaker 2: the girls were like, well we message you, we were
Speaker 2: texting you all.
Speaker 1: That's where she lost me. Just seeing the scene, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're so jealous they wouldn't comment. And
Speaker 1: then when as it goes on, we find out that
Speaker 1: the girls are texting her privately and showing, you know,
Speaker 1: showing their support, and does she kind of asshole to
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean it also shows that these are
Speaker 2: like definitely real world problems, like who's the most jealous
Speaker 2: because they're getting something exciting that's going to promote their show.
Speaker 1: But I could see that making some girl, especially at
Speaker 1: that age, you know.
Speaker 2: True, Well, I only been.
Speaker 1: On this is only their second season, and now she's
Speaker 1: out there, you know, presenting at the CMA. That's a
Speaker 1: big deal deal. And she was very humble.
Speaker 2: About it until she got pissed, until she wasn't. But
Speaker 2: I have a question for you, would you note would
Speaker 2: you care more? Let's say something good happened to you.
Speaker 2: Would you care more if I sent you a text
Speaker 2: message and said like, oh my gosh, you crushed it today,
Speaker 2: Or if I commented on your Instagram because I don't
Speaker 2: notice when you comment on my Instagram.
Speaker 1: I am here to tell you that I need the
Speaker 1: social media support, I need the love. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I think that if you say something to somebody directly,
Speaker 1: it's a bigger impact than you know, saying it on
Speaker 1: social media, especially if it's a close friend. Like if
Speaker 1: it's my close friend, of course I'm going to post
Speaker 1: for them on social media. But I'm also before I
Speaker 1: do that, I'm going to reach out and say happy birthday,
Speaker 1: you know, and.
Speaker 2: All those things. But some people, do you think she
Speaker 2: wanted to repost or she just wanted to comment, because
Speaker 2: to me, she said she just wanted to comment. I
Speaker 2: have I don't care. Well, it is all about it
Speaker 2: is kind of somebody wants to repost, like my picture
Speaker 2: doing something and saying, oh my gosh, this is amazing.
Speaker 2: I would probably notice that, but somebody comment I think
Speaker 2: Kattie wouldn't notice.
Speaker 1: I think the bottom line is how often do these
Speaker 1: girls comment? Are they on social media all the time,
Speaker 1: which I think they are. They're probably commenting on every
Speaker 1: other picture that she posts immediately, So I would be like,
Speaker 1: that's a little sus like, why are you not commenting
Speaker 1: when I'm doing something so amazing? Are you jealous?
Speaker 2: Hey? Jealousy, hey jealousy? Who sings that song? Do you
Speaker 2: remember it from like the nineties?
Speaker 1: I may asking me, I can't even I can't. I
Speaker 1: don't know who sings anything. Well.
Speaker 2: Either way, then Mikayla and Macy go over to Demi's house.
Speaker 2: Macey wonders why Taylor wouldn't just text them. Demi thinks
Speaker 2: Taylor is a liability to Mom Talk. The Mom Talk
Speaker 2: girls are getting attacked on social media because of what
Speaker 2: Taylor said. So Taylor essentially went public about nobody writing
Speaker 2: anything on her thing and made it seem like none
Speaker 2: of the girls supported her, which I think some of
Speaker 2: the girls were legitimately upset because it made Mom Talk
Speaker 2: look fake. I think Demi was legitimately upset because she
Speaker 2: wasn't asked.
Speaker 1: Demi is so jealous of Taylor at this point, at
Speaker 1: least that's she's making herself look like that. You know,
Speaker 1: I threw around after watching the entire season. Is it
Speaker 1: editing or is this woman just insanely negative and jealous?
Speaker 1: Have not? I mean, especially of Taylor, But I think
Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, everybody in the cast's.
Speaker 2: She's been terrible to everyone. I mean, I get the book,
Speaker 2: but I don't understand how this makes her a liability.
Speaker 1: She's like a mom Talk like come on to me,
Speaker 1: but it's not that deep. But what is it about Utah,
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City and then now Warm and Wives? They
Speaker 1: literally film a scene in their car going through a
Speaker 1: drive through.
Speaker 2: Because that's what they everybody eats around there, Like we don't.
Speaker 1: I don't even don't eat over here.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, but we also don't. I don't have a
Speaker 2: ton of drive throughs near my house.
Speaker 1: I mean I do.
Speaker 2: I don't have an in and out that's like ten
Speaker 2: minutes away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like in and out, and that's probably the
Speaker 1: only fast food drive through I would go through. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll go through a Starbucks once in a while.
Speaker 1: But I gotta believe, like Swig or whatever they're paying for,
Speaker 1: they're paying big advertiser dollars, just like, yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: they're doing a whole scene of them driving through. It's
Speaker 1: like product placement, just like when they did with Windy's
Speaker 1: on Salt Lake City.
Speaker 2: And what I want to know, huh, Because I know
Speaker 2: that this show is number what number one on Honlulu?
Speaker 2: I want to know what those numbers are based on,
Speaker 2: like going number one on Peacock.
Speaker 1: Well, it's yeah, I would too. I I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about Hulu, but I also know that they very
Speaker 1: seldom release streaming numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I have really come to the terms that
Speaker 2: I don't like when people drop an entire season, like
Speaker 2: I don't either our other new favorite show A Bad
Speaker 2: Sisters or The Better Sister or The Worst Sister or
Speaker 2: whatever it's called.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I stayed up late last night.
Speaker 2: Watching Do not tell me because I'm behind.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you, but it is so good.
Speaker 2: Okay, listen to this, and yes, season two.
Speaker 1: It was somebody I suspected from the very beginning.
Speaker 2: I will cut you if you say I'm not going
Speaker 2: to tell you, I'm not going to say. Honestly, I
Speaker 2: will never comment on another.
Speaker 1: There's so many twists and turns it's not even funny.
Speaker 2: But okay, so I just read this. The season two
Speaker 2: from of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives hit five
Speaker 2: million views in its first five days of streaming on Hulu.
Speaker 2: That's a lot. That's a lot you have today.
Speaker 1: But it's also the entire season, so some people might
Speaker 1: people just sit and watch, like the entire season on
Speaker 1: one shot. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 2: Oh, the entire season hit five million views or of
Speaker 2: one episode? By one episode, I.
Speaker 1: Don't, I don't know, hit five million views in its
Speaker 1: first five days, So five days, so there's just not
Speaker 1: out there there. Yeah, they've been bench watching it.
Speaker 2: Okay. So Atlanta season sixteen premiere aired on March ninth
Speaker 2: and brought in a total two point five million, But
Speaker 2: that's one.
Speaker 1: Episode point so yeah, so there you go. There's your answer. Yep,
Speaker 1: not as many as Bravo or Peacock.
Speaker 2: Correct as well. We're just guessing. We don't know. We're
Speaker 2: still fine with the job. Hulu if you want us, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Hulu, if you want to hire, if.
Speaker 2: You can, we'll do our st hit five million will
Speaker 2: cause some kind of problems anyways. Then Mikayla and Macy
Speaker 2: pick up Taylor to talk about the social media situation.
Speaker 2: Mikayla brings up the questions of what's more important social
Speaker 2: media support or private support. We already talked about this.
Speaker 2: Then Macey and her husband Jacob arrive in San Diego
Speaker 2: to do frozen embryo transfer. As we watched the rest
Speaker 2: of the season, this entire portion made me emotional because.
Speaker 1: I did IVF right and I don't know anything about IVF.
Speaker 2: But after.
Speaker 1: After that, how long does it take for the IVF
Speaker 1: transfer to know if it worked or not?
Speaker 2: Same is like if you were to have sex, Oh,
Speaker 2: really yes, because if they're putting it in you, it's
Speaker 2: the same as like if you were having penetration.
Speaker 1: And but it depends on the timing, right, Like I
Speaker 1: mean they.
Speaker 2: Have to time it the same way if you're ovulating
Speaker 2: or if you're not that. Yeah, so it's the same thing.
Speaker 2: So I think you find out you're pregnant like twelve
Speaker 2: days after you're pregnant if you take like a blood test.
Speaker 2: But I could be wrong, but I from my memory,
Speaker 2: I feel.
Speaker 1: Like she's like, it's been nine days, let's take the test.
Speaker 2: So maybe it was nine days. I mean, I can't
Speaker 2: remember a weekend for mine, so that's why I remembered
Speaker 2: it being more. Then, Layla and Taylor are in New
Speaker 2: York City doing a brand deal.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? Was that a very
Speaker 1: small plane to fly New.
Speaker 2: York in Let me tell you an answer. I don't
Speaker 2: care what size private plane it is. I'm happy to
Speaker 2: take it for a brand deal, and no one's offered
Speaker 2: it that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what that actual hell they are? They are
Speaker 1: taking private planes to do brand deals. It's insanity.
Speaker 2: Why didn't they tell us what? And also who? You
Speaker 2: didn't tell us who the brand was? So does that
Speaker 2: mean that.
Speaker 1: That brand is not getting any attention on this Hulu?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't know what they were doing. I also,
Speaker 2: they weren't even glam for most of it. I was confused.
Speaker 2: And then where did all their makeup go on the
Speaker 2: plane ride home?
Speaker 1: Well, they're young, they just take it off.
Speaker 2: They take it off, and then they're going to redo
Speaker 2: it for the event when they get there. I know,
Speaker 2: I know. But Layla has strong opinions during this and
Speaker 2: reads a bunch of text messages.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Do you think that that was a
Speaker 1: dick move on her part to do that? Well?
Speaker 2: I thought it was a dick move once we found
Speaker 2: out that she wasn't going to actually have her back.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like when you do something like that,
Speaker 1: like you're really like she's friends with the other girls.
Speaker 1: That's what's crazy to me, and she's involved in that.
Speaker 1: Is she trying to protect her ass or is she
Speaker 1: one of those girls Layla that she's really good friends with,
Speaker 1: a friend she's with.
Speaker 2: I think she's big balls.
Speaker 1: Well, she had big balls to show Taylor those because
Speaker 1: there was.
Speaker 2: No one that was going to be mad at her
Speaker 2: in that moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she had to know that it's going to
Speaker 1: come up.
Speaker 2: Well, I think she you know how some people get
Speaker 2: real pumped up to stir the shit and then once
Speaker 2: they stir it, then they're like, oh fuck and they
Speaker 2: run away.
Speaker 1: She was like deer in the headlights, Like later on
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, but I didn't.
Speaker 2: So Demi responded to Taylor's apology saying she doesn't accept
Speaker 2: her apology and goes on about why she doesn't, and
Speaker 2: then Demi texted Layla asking her how much she was
Speaker 2: making on the brand photoshoot. Layla then tells Taylor she
Speaker 2: will stand up for her at the Saint and the
Speaker 2: Center's party, which we know does not happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Demi is that jealous friend that wants to
Speaker 1: know how much everybody's getting paid.
Speaker 2: But if you and I got this same deal, sometimes
Speaker 2: I think, yes, I'm not standing up for Demi in
Speaker 2: this point, Like I think she asked out of jealousy
Speaker 2: ways because she wasn't asked. But if we both got somebody,
Speaker 2: so let's say Canada dry yeah not through the pod
Speaker 2: reached out and asked gave us both an offer. I
Speaker 2: would say to you, hey, Tam, how much you're making
Speaker 2: for this, so I can't, but I wouldn't never.
Speaker 1: But they're not doing the same deal. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like if somebody gets asked to do
Speaker 1: something for Bravo, it's like, how much did you get paid?
Speaker 2: You know? I know, it's only if you're doing the
Speaker 2: same deal around the same time, and then it's like,
Speaker 2: am I getting dicked and you're not.
Speaker 1: And it's also the way she worded it too, like
Speaker 1: she actually I don't know. I just thought it was
Speaker 1: just like.
Speaker 2: The entire thing. This is not a good no matter what,
Speaker 2: this is not a good season for dem No, it's
Speaker 2: not no longer fan favorite.
Speaker 1: But was she actually a fan favorite last year? Because
Speaker 1: she thinks I.
Speaker 2: Think she was the fan I don't. I think Taylor
Speaker 2: has always been the fan favorite. But I think everyone
Speaker 2: loved her. She was like the breakout really yeah. Then
Speaker 2: we find out Macy's pregnant. She takes her pregnancy test
Speaker 2: on camera. Then Whitney and Demi run into show.
Speaker 1: A question really quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he takes that.
Speaker 1: They look, they read it, whatever they did in the kitchen,
Speaker 1: and then is a pan out. There's a life size
Speaker 1: picture of Jesus walking on water in the kitchen?
Speaker 2: Is that what that was? I didn't notice it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was Jesus or if it
Speaker 1: was like Kristen's boyfriend Luke from the Valley. I'm like
Speaker 1: that not even Luke.
Speaker 2: You have to say, uh, the guy that wore the thing.
Speaker 1: Oh, Aaron, Aaron, but he had like the scruff and
Speaker 1: the I'm and he's I mean, it was like life
Speaker 1: size in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: How did I not notice? So? I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think it might be because I watched this a long
Speaker 2: time ago. Oh maybe, but then you know, they then
Speaker 2: we're up back at jay Z Styles hair salon, and.
Speaker 1: I like that name, jay z Styles, jay Zy Styles.
Speaker 2: I want to go. As soon as I have enough
Speaker 2: hair to attach some extensions to. I want to go
Speaker 2: to Jesse.
Speaker 1: I think I had her extensions in my hair when
Speaker 1: I filmed all season. Really yes, because I went to
Speaker 1: somebody new I had my hair done, Jill. She's amazing
Speaker 1: down in San Clemente, and she put I was. I
Speaker 1: went to her for the first time during the season
Speaker 1: and she put in her hair extensions and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: what brand is it? And She's like Oh, it's a
Speaker 1: girl from TikTok that we order from. It has to
Speaker 1: be right, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, let's just assume and give her her props, yeah,
Speaker 2: or as Cynthia always says, give her her flowers hours.
Speaker 2: Why that always sticks out in my head. But they
Speaker 2: bond overall feeling the same way. And then then we're
Speaker 2: on the flight back. Layla is trying to be the
Speaker 2: producer's pet, as we know, but she's trying to potstr
Speaker 2: but it's, you know whatever. Then we get to the
Speaker 2: Saint Center's party, Taylor comes in. Taylor is not gonna
Speaker 2: take this laying down because she's wearing the biggest freaking
Speaker 2: wings I've ever.
Speaker 1: Well, she brings the coat of her backup and six
Speaker 1: foot angel wings and she's like, no one's gonna fuck
Speaker 1: with me, and you know what, and she dressed like
Speaker 1: an angel, which is smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was smart. I hate to give you a compliment,
Speaker 2: but there are parts of her that remind me of you.
Speaker 2: It's funny you.
Speaker 1: Say that, because I think the same thing.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm watching her and she says certain things and
Speaker 2: I'm like, is this fucking mini Tana Judge. She could
Speaker 2: be my baby tam or Judge. This is the Tamara
Speaker 2: Judge's daughter that we've instead of being been affles relative like.
Speaker 1: Lost daughter. Yeah, that's her and her facial expressions too,
Speaker 1: like in her.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck, but I do give a fuck.
Speaker 1: Is also my favorite back and she'll let people push
Speaker 1: her so far and it's like, no, it's so good.
Speaker 2: Then the you know, they go into the back room
Speaker 2: to talk at the party, everybody looks pretty good. Jesse, Demi,
Speaker 2: and Taylor start going at each other quite immediately. Layelah
Speaker 2: doesn't say a single word Miranda.
Speaker 1: She just sat there. I'm like, say something, say something.
Speaker 1: She was like deer in the headlights.
Speaker 2: But why in the world would Miranda Miranda Miranda?
Speaker 1: You know what I have to say about Randa, I
Speaker 1: feel like she kind of dies off the last part
Speaker 1: of the season.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to see Miranda again. I
Speaker 2: think she's really cute, I think, I mean, I think
Speaker 2: she's beautiful, but I don't think we're going to see
Speaker 2: her season three.
Speaker 1: As my guess, well, I think they voted her not
Speaker 1: to be in the mom talk at the end, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, did they really get to vote. I don't know,
Speaker 1: we need to talk about that because I'm so so
Speaker 1: I have been confused about this forever. But we'll get
Speaker 1: there and we'll get out of myself.
Speaker 2: But then, you know, of course, Demi takes it too far.
Speaker 2: She starts bashing Taylor's relationship with Dakota, which is what
Speaker 2: it is, but then she brings her parenting into it
Speaker 2: and brings in ever.
Speaker 1: But when she did that, I'm like, that's almost like
Speaker 1: you're disgusting. You're discussing your bitch and Demi is playing checkers.
Speaker 1: Why Taylor is definitely playing chess, because Taylor's just.
Speaker 2: Like, go ahead, keep talking, and then you know what,
Speaker 2: Taylor late, I'm not going on the cast trip, which
Speaker 2: made the cast trip a fucking snooze fest, which is
Speaker 2: why Demi had to break down to a ten. Well,
Speaker 2: but that was a stupid, fucking game. But we'll get there.
Speaker 1: It was, But how many times do we have to
Speaker 1: hear them say, mom talk is about supporting women, and
Speaker 1: I don't feel like we're supporting I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2: My god, it's like housewives are like, I hate the drama.
Speaker 1: I hate I hope there's no drama on this trip.
Speaker 1: Let's make it fun.
Speaker 2: Let's let's do a healing trip. Healing healing, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen. So episode nine, Episode nine, Macy
Speaker 2: goes over to Jesse's house and talks about their upcoming
Speaker 2: trip trip to New Orleans, where they debate if it's
Speaker 2: New Orleans or New Orleans, what do.
Speaker 1: You well, it's New Orleans, I believe. And I'll have
Speaker 1: to tell you this is my life all season long, because, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously everybody knows we went there, and I
Speaker 1: had to struggle New Orleans, New Orleans, New Orleans, Nola, Nola.
Speaker 2: Know what, I can assume you didn't have a meal
Speaker 2: the way that the Mormon Secret Lives of Mormon wives.
Speaker 1: You're right about that.
Speaker 2: I don't think you got a delicious.
Speaker 1: No, I know, homemade meals. But we did get some
Speaker 1: good meals. But I I feel like I've seen the
Speaker 1: New Orleans airport too many times in the past four months,
Speaker 1: between me and you and me and the cast, and
Speaker 1: now this, I'm like, when I saw that they went,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2: Oh that was New Orleans. Was the last place I
Speaker 2: went before I was tumor Teddy.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well, what a making of medical conditions
Speaker 2: and whatnot. These viewers clocking thyroid problems better than actual
Speaker 2: healthcare providers.
Speaker 1: You know that this isn't the first time of viewer
Speaker 1: has done that, So what is another time? There was
Speaker 1: Terrek from that flipping show el Most I don't know
Speaker 1: how to spread he ended up with thyroid cancer. Then
Speaker 1: Denise Richards, somebody on on Viewer Nurse Something detected that,
Speaker 1: and then the host of Inside Edition are think Deborah,
Speaker 1: she also had thyroid cancer, and it was all like
Speaker 1: a fan saying, hey, you should go have that checked out.
Speaker 1: I didn't notice anything, you know. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: to really be trained, I guess because I didn't notice
Speaker 1: anything on her neck.
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes I think it's incredible like in this instance.
Speaker 2: But sometimes I mean I've gotten so many messages of
Speaker 2: people that have said things to me that don't actually
Speaker 2: know when it comes to doctor stuff, and it sends
Speaker 2: me over the edge. But this is where it's pretty
Speaker 2: incredible how observant somebody is and how they could change
Speaker 2: a life and potentially save a life by letting them
Speaker 2: know that. Guys. But if you're listening, guys, if you
Speaker 2: don't actually know, or if you're not trained in this
Speaker 2: in some way, it's probably not the best to be
Speaker 2: giving out your medical opinions because it could just cause paranoia.
Speaker 2: Guess what. They arrive in New Orleans and there's another
Speaker 2: party bus.
Speaker 1: Another party bus.
Speaker 2: Here they go. Layla says she feels bad for not
Speaker 2: standing up for Taylor at the Saints and Center's party. Well,
Speaker 2: there's not even the coming.
Speaker 1: You should look what you've done. I mean you when
Speaker 1: it happened, you were chicken shit and you wouldn't say
Speaker 1: a word after you told Taylor you gave her her
Speaker 1: you know your word that you would. And now guess what,
Speaker 1: Taylor's not on the trip, probably afraid she's afraid to
Speaker 1: go that she might hurt DEMI.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's afraid. I think she's seriously. I
Speaker 2: think that was her way of saying, Bam, bitches, I'm
Speaker 2: the main girl, and you try to make a show
Speaker 2: without me. And then they realized they all had to
Speaker 2: do some work, and they were like, well, this sucks
Speaker 2: because then we've got dirty to me who's just done
Speaker 2: herself in like her projection. When even it comes like
Speaker 2: we haven't seen gin in weeks, I feel like and
Speaker 2: how eating dinner they get a video from Jin Jin,
Speaker 2: tells them that she just came out of therapy and
Speaker 2: that she's struggling, going into a dark place. She shares
Speaker 2: that she's been hurting and apologies for hurting any of them.
Speaker 2: She says she needs to stay home and take care
Speaker 2: of herself, and Demi says she doesn't want to tell
Speaker 2: Jen anything anymore. The girls think to me as being
Speaker 2: a little harsh considering what she's going on.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so all the girls were like so sympathetic
Speaker 1: and totally understood. Of course, Demi did not disappoint. She's consistent.
Speaker 1: She sucks the energy out of every scene in the
Speaker 1: last three episodes. Her negativity like why can't you just say, oh,
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for her, I hope she's getting the
Speaker 1: help she needs or whatever. But again she's like, eh,
Speaker 1: just nasty towards her.
Speaker 2: Especially when we know what's coming with all the whole
Speaker 2: pregnancy stuff and how upset she got. She knows that
Speaker 2: Jen is struggling, I know, with just getting pregnant. She
Speaker 2: knows this information and she's still being an ass.
Speaker 1: Well, did you notice Mikayla basically admitted that producers were
Speaker 1: expecting to blow up because she's like, oh wow, now
Speaker 1: that Taylor isn't here, who's going to.
Speaker 2: Get into it? Who? My favorite is?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 2: Mikayla.
Speaker 1: I like Mikayla.
Speaker 2: I like too, I like Jesse, I like Mikayla, and
Speaker 2: I like Macy. So pretty much, I'm the general. And
Speaker 2: guess what. I like Whitney. I told you you were
Speaker 2: gonna like Whitney. I like Whitney. But she needs to
Speaker 2: do more now that she's gotten her vote back into
Speaker 2: mom talk. I need more.
Speaker 1: I need her to step up.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: She does a lot on social media. She was I
Speaker 1: do and I fell and I looked at her tiktoks.
Speaker 1: I think her tiktoks are.
Speaker 2: Amazing because I think she's a good dancer.
Speaker 1: She's a really good dancer. And it's funny because they
Speaker 1: talk about this is mom talks about supporting each other
Speaker 1: or supporting moms or women or whatever, but their tiktoks
Speaker 1: or bashing. They're in the vigil. Tiktoks are usually bashing.
Speaker 2: So that's the whole point. That's what they're all fighting about.
Speaker 2: Because that's originally not how it started. Well that's how
Speaker 2: it's going well because then it became a television show
Speaker 2: about drama. Then the girls go to a burlesque show
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. I also want to add in that
Speaker 2: it's fine for vagina joints in the LDS community, just
Speaker 2: not coffee.
Speaker 1: Or alcohol. Ketymine and Thhc's totally.
Speaker 2: Fine, totally fine. Well, then Taylor goes over to her parents'
Speaker 2: house to talk about her talk with her mom and sister.
Speaker 2: Taylor explains that Demi brought up a saint at Sinners
Speaker 2: was a bad point in her life and it hurt her,
Speaker 2: and Taylor's mom reminds her that she started mom talk.
Speaker 2: I wish all the girls had heard this kind of discussion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Taylor seemed very humble, even when her
Speaker 1: mom said that like you started it, you're the whatever,
Speaker 1: and she's like, you know, don't say that. But she's
Speaker 1: very very humble, and I love that about her.
Speaker 2: I think she just I think Taylor needs a good friend.
Speaker 1: Well, the other girls are basically ariston. When I say
Speaker 1: other girls, Demi's basically saying she doesn't know how to
Speaker 1: be a friend.
Speaker 2: I think she does. But she also has three little kids.
Speaker 1: But I think she's like a lot like me, Like
Speaker 1: I'll have a couple of really good friends, but in
Speaker 1: a like a big group setting, Like I don't push
Speaker 1: myself to get super close to people.
Speaker 2: But they haven't really shown many one on one scenes
Speaker 2: with They always show it with her family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. They show her family more than anything.
Speaker 1: Is it because her mom wants to be a housewife?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. She makes good TV at this point,
Speaker 2: then Mom Talk arrives back at the New Orleans house
Speaker 2: and catches up on the couch. Layla asked me if
Speaker 2: she can ever see herself being friends of Taylor again.
Speaker 2: She says no, and then Layla has another brilliant idea.
Speaker 1: Do you think Demi's that girl that tries to turn
Speaker 1: everybody against.
Speaker 2: The girl that she hates at the moment, Yes, she's
Speaker 2: done it multiple times. I think we're on the fourth person.
Speaker 1: It's like exhausting, Like I you know, I would never
Speaker 1: tell you who to be friends with, and I would
Speaker 1: never listen right right, And just because like you can't
Speaker 1: you don't do that to somebody. It's not my choice,
Speaker 1: your choice to be like, Okay, since you don't like her,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be friends with her.
Speaker 2: And and truthfully, to me, you have this big of
Speaker 2: a problem leave.
Speaker 1: But I think a narcissist does that.
Speaker 2: Allegedly narcissists. It's interesting that you would say that word,
Speaker 2: because that's what Mean keeps calling Taylor.
Speaker 1: It takes one to know one. I don't think that
Speaker 1: the Taylor's a narciss at all. She's narciss has an
Speaker 1: inflated opinion on themselves and think like they're so much
Speaker 1: better than everybody. Taylor has the opposite.
Speaker 2: I think she's an introvert.
Speaker 1: She needs self esteem, she needs she doesn't feel good
Speaker 1: about herself. I feel like she's still blaming herself for
Speaker 1: the whole swinging scandal, and she it still bothers her
Speaker 1: that she did that, and I don't know that would
Speaker 1: not be like that now in the show, that's how
Speaker 1: they should be kissing her ass.
Speaker 2: Granted, they may have had a lot of TikTok followers before,
Speaker 2: but that's what got the show started. It's not that
Speaker 2: they were all good dancers on the Tiktoks.
Speaker 1: Now, who do you think had the idea to play
Speaker 1: pregnancy Roulette? Because I got to believe the producers knew
Speaker 1: two of the girls were pregnant.
Speaker 2: I got to believe that if that was Layla's idea,
Speaker 2: I'll run myself over with my car because I.
Speaker 1: Do know not her idea. I think it was Producers
Speaker 1: because had they not known two girls were pregnant, they
Speaker 1: would have never played this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is another instance of Leila.
Speaker 1: They they could have gotten better tests other than Walgreen pregnant.
Speaker 2: Because they didn't, well, they didn't want. They must have
Speaker 2: tried to make a deal with what's the pregnancy test
Speaker 2: we all take? Could you imagine if they did this
Speaker 2: on Housewives when everybody's already in menopause.
Speaker 1: Clear blue. It's not a clear blue, so obviously like
Speaker 1: if we all did these tests, we'd all, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a real shock or noegnant. No, it's like, do they
Speaker 1: have menopause tests? Like on the sticks you see who's
Speaker 1: in menopause.
Speaker 2: Let's see who still gets a period at way? I
Speaker 2: still haven't gotten one since I went into the hospital.
Speaker 1: Well, it's probably all the medication and stuff it.
Speaker 2: Makes your period stop. Well, or maybe I've hit that.
Speaker 1: Maybe is there any kind of like hormone blockers or
Speaker 1: anything you're on?
Speaker 2: No, I think something like hot just seizure Medican medication. No, nothing,
Speaker 2: I'm not on estrogen. I'm not on any hormones, but
Speaker 2: maybe that's why. Maybe because I'm not I know for
Speaker 2: sure I am not pregnant, so everyone doesn't need to
Speaker 2: go there.
Speaker 1: And immune a therapy because I've heard like immun like
Speaker 1: a chemotherapy, immune therapy, all these things. Can they put
Speaker 1: you into menopause?
Speaker 2: That's why I don't know. I'm going to ask today.
Speaker 1: I know that chemo can. I've heard somebody talk about
Speaker 1: it before. I don't know. I mean, I'm just repeating
Speaker 1: what I've heard, but that that could be it.
Speaker 2: That's it's just weird because how many I mean, we're
Speaker 2: almost at six months.
Speaker 1: No, we're not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when did we When did I go in oh
Speaker 2: for February?
Speaker 1: February I already.
Speaker 2: Wash. I on my period when we were in New Orleans. No, no,
Speaker 2: I was not well. Then Leila continues this on and
Speaker 2: then it honestly, I'm gonna I know we're going to
Speaker 2: be skipping around, but this is where shit hits the fan.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so Demmi gets all emotional, she starts freaking out.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's got to be upsetting, but
Speaker 1: how did she know that maybe one of those pregnancy
Speaker 1: tests were not hers if she's currently trying to.
Speaker 2: I think she went and took another one. I think
Speaker 2: that's why she went in the bathroom. I think that's
Speaker 2: what they were implying.
Speaker 1: I mean, we obviously knew who was pregnant, because we
Speaker 1: met with the girls and we interviewed them, and they
Speaker 1: were pregnant when we interviewed them.
Speaker 2: But I still don't you worry. I still wasn't smart
Speaker 2: enough to figure out that Mikhael was the other one.
Speaker 2: That was me too.
Speaker 1: I mean at first, I'm like, wait, who's the other one?
Speaker 1: And then they stopped the game and they all go
Speaker 1: different directions, and Demmy goes off crying, and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: we need to find out who it is. And of
Speaker 1: course we did when mikaelin may seem meat and they
Speaker 1: dressed like we knew Dynasty wives. You see there, Why
Speaker 1: did they have their they still had the.
Speaker 2: Stickers on there. They must have been doing a TikTok.
Speaker 1: They had to have been, because I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: like I've often seen, are those in style, those dummo pants, Well,
Speaker 1: they are like a certain type of cameo pants. They're
Speaker 1: camo pants hunting in Yeah, I don't pattern on him.
Speaker 1: It's like hunting ones.
Speaker 2: But they also had the thing, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I have armpit sweat. Things are really
Speaker 2: going well right now, minopause hot, but it's it's it's
Speaker 2: going not well. And it's also not going well because
Speaker 2: Taylor makes a decision to end things with Dakota for good,
Speaker 2: which I think now we know that isn't actually accurate.
Speaker 1: But she's kind of confusing because I.
Speaker 2: Know you like Dakota. I do like Dakota.
Speaker 1: I do like Dakota, but we don't really see a
Speaker 1: lot of interaction and fighting this season with them. There's
Speaker 1: not a lot like obviously she was arrested last year,
Speaker 1: and now Taylor's family likes Dakota, and I'm like, so
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, I don't, Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Think Dakota, especially after some of the clips see I'm
Speaker 2: gonna believe whatever Macy says. That's the level I'm at
Speaker 2: right now. And I saw Macy fighting with Dakota on
Speaker 2: his Vile Files interview because he made some stuff up,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to believe her. I believe Macy. I
Speaker 2: don't like Dakota, and I'm standing by that. Okay, even
Speaker 2: though he's fooling us on the show because I'm liking
Speaker 2: him on the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he comes across pretty sincere and good
Speaker 1: with his son, and I don't know, I mean whatever.
Speaker 2: A lot of people can come off good. I mean,
Speaker 2: you and I can pretend to be likable for about
Speaker 2: twenty minutes, I know.
Speaker 1: And it's always the one that acts on reality shows
Speaker 1: that everyone's like, oh, they're so sweet, Oh do this,
Speaker 1: and you're like, if you only knew, if you knew
Speaker 1: when they go sightseeing in New Orleans, I knew exactly
Speaker 1: where they were going. Cafe Dumont.
Speaker 2: That's what we waited in the line for no reason.
Speaker 1: Oh Bert, Yes, but listen, do you know that Bronwyn
Speaker 1: just sent me a picture of the three of us there.
Speaker 1: I'll have to send it to you.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, send that to me.
Speaker 1: And what are those little things that been been?
Speaker 2: The beignettes? Vignettes I think that's what they're called. But
Speaker 2: those were so good. I mean, I feel bad that
Speaker 2: I felt so terrible on that trip. I was so sick,
Speaker 2: clearly because I had those giant tumors and had no idea,
Speaker 2: because that would have been a really fun trip had
Speaker 2: I not felt like somebody was poking my head with
Speaker 2: a million knives. All right, I guess we got to stay.
Speaker 2: We got to stay on topic. But that was we
Speaker 2: do need to go back, but they're sight seeing. Jesse
Speaker 2: explains how hurt she is that Demi would be sending
Speaker 2: people elsewhere and Jesse and to me talk while they're
Speaker 2: at the market. I don't believe one thing Demi says
Speaker 2: at this point.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that conversation that the in the Mormon religion,
Speaker 1: they believe that you're sealed to your very first husband
Speaker 1: and then in the afterlife that's who you're going to
Speaker 1: be with. I'm like, if so, if I was Mormon,
Speaker 1: I'd be my afterlife would be with Ryan's dad, Darren
Speaker 1: him att.
Speaker 2: I guess we're sealed together for the eternity. I realized, like, wow,
Speaker 2: what I haven't even spoke. Could you imagine if that
Speaker 2: was the case? And I mean, how many years has
Speaker 2: it been since you've even spoken to Ryan's dad?
Speaker 1: I saw him at Ava's ninth birthday, But prior to that,
Speaker 1: it's usually like if Ava has you know, has a
Speaker 1: birthday party and he's there.
Speaker 2: You had you had a kid with him, but like
Speaker 2: Matt for example, like I have not one bad thing
Speaker 2: to say about him, but I probably haven't spoken to
Speaker 2: him in fifteen years. But then I'm going to just
Speaker 2: meet him in the afterlife and.
Speaker 1: Tie together and say, here we are. It's you and me, baby,
Speaker 1: remember when we were twenty to give you.
Speaker 2: My gosh. I couldn't believe it. But then mom talk
Speaker 2: goes to the vampire apothecary for dinner. I'm glad we
Speaker 2: didn't go there. Jesse thinks that drinking blood is most
Speaker 2: likely against the words of Mormon wisdom.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it wasn't blood, sweetie, But I love
Speaker 1: they're all dressed like witches. We were all hour.
Speaker 2: Chokers, but they all get virgin blood bags.
Speaker 1: I know an ivy bag that was an ivy bag.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's kind of a cute idea. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know where you buy ivy bags at.
Speaker 2: And where you get vart ones right, like what's in there?
Speaker 2: But Demi decides at this point she's going to tell
Speaker 2: the group if Taylor's and that she is out. This
Speaker 2: shocks the group and they think it's unfair for her
Speaker 2: to say that. Do you want to know whoever comes
Speaker 2: out well with an ultimatum, no one, no one, no
Speaker 2: one person.
Speaker 1: Yeh ever does well, but thank you Jesse. Like she's
Speaker 1: the one that's like, stop holding a fucking grudge. He's
Speaker 1: not holding a grudge, Like move on? Why can't you
Speaker 1: move on? You know what, Demi, at this point, you're
Speaker 1: the one that sounds like a psychotic child. I not Taylor.
Speaker 2: You, I agree, And then you.
Speaker 1: Also what I also noticed and you probably did too.
Speaker 1: When Demi mentioned that it's not the Taylor Show, it
Speaker 1: showed me. It spoke like, so I can't even talk.
Speaker 1: It showed me her jealousy towards Taylor. She showed her cards.
Speaker 1: She thinks, oh my god, this is the Taylor show.
Speaker 1: That those are her words. I've never heard Taylor be like,
Speaker 1: this is my show, Taylor.
Speaker 2: Taylor know, like when you have confident like granted, I
Speaker 2: know that Taylor is struggling with some you know, personal
Speaker 2: related things, but I think Taylor is very confident in
Speaker 2: her place in the show, and Demi is not, and
Speaker 2: she should not be because it's not looking good for her.
Speaker 1: It's not looking good for her at all, and it gets.
Speaker 2: Even worse in the final episode. But we have to
Speaker 2: close out because that's the end of this episode and
Speaker 2: we will be back to talk about episode ten.