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Speaker 1: to get started. All right, So this has been highly

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Speaker 1: requested for a while. People have been wanting a podcast,

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Speaker 1: and that's exactly what you're getting, but a little bit

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Speaker 1: different because we're not just talking all baseball. We're talking

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Speaker 1: specifically about the Mets on this podcast. And I'm not alone.

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Speaker 1: I have a co host here over on the met

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Speaker 1: stub podcast, James Sheiano. You can find him on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: He'll tell you all his information. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: enough of me explaining who he is. Let him take

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Speaker 1: over here, and then we'll get going into Mets talk

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Speaker 1: like that's just what we're gonna do all year.

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Speaker 2: Long, all year long. Baby. So I'm James Chiano. Good

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Speaker 2: friends of Mark for a long time, grew up together,

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Speaker 2: went to high school together, lived together in New York

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Speaker 2: for a little while. You can follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 2: at gither had no range. Just to repeat that, that's

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Speaker 2: Geither had no range, as in Derek Gether, the former

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Speaker 2: New York Yankee shortstop, had no range.

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Speaker 1: Accurate accurate statement. Wow, this isn't you know. We'll trash

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Speaker 1: talk to the Yankees a little bit on here, but

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Speaker 1: we are gonna say focused mostly on the Mets. For

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Speaker 1: those of you who don't know me, Giraffneckmark, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Big Mets fan. James is a huge

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Speaker 1: Mets fan. We decided to come together make this Mets

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Speaker 1: podcast just because there's a lot of Mets podcasts out

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Speaker 1: there and they're all great, but we wanted to do

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Speaker 1: a little different spin. We got a little bit more

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Speaker 1: of a positive angle on this. We're gonna go a

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Speaker 1: little more in depth, and honestly, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: little more conversational. As James said, We've been friends for

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Speaker 1: a while, now, we live together, we have a good rapport.

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Speaker 1: I think this is something that you guys are gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to see on YouTube. You're gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to follow us on Twitter, Instagram, everything is going to

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Speaker 1: be Mets up. That's where you're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: follow us to make sure if you're not following, which

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Speaker 1: you're probably not because it's the first episode, you get

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Speaker 1: over there, you drop us a follow, And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just super excited. I think as a Mets fan,

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Speaker 1: it's a really exciting time right now. We have so

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Speaker 1: many great things to talk about. I mean, you want

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Speaker 1: to get started and just get going into our first episode?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, let's jump in.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot that happened this offseason, and specifically a

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Speaker 1: lot of good stuff for the Mets. I mean, Francisco Lindor,

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Speaker 1: of those four guys do you think is honestly gonna

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Speaker 2: With the most. For sure, I think the answer to

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Speaker 2: that question is gonna be Francisco Lindor. I think a

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Speaker 2: how good this guy is. For four straight years from

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen through twenty nineteen, every year he had thirty

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Speaker 2: Gold Glove caliber defense, smile through either year, encapsulated the

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Speaker 1: You like that little softball question for the first one,

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Speaker 2: Actually, Mark, I really think that Sam McWilliams and his

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Speaker 2: This is not not the MVP shorts style.

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Speaker 1: Sam mc williams has been looking really good.

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Speaker 2: He was a guy that I also I want to

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, we'll talk more Sam mc williams. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we can't talk about the Mets off season without talking

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Speaker 1: about Francisco Lindor. We also can't talk about the Mets

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Speaker 2: Steve Cohen, Absolutely, that's a great place to start. That

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Speaker 2: I should have answered that. That's good.

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Speaker 1: That was you know what that was. That was like

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that was the sneaky answer. That's

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Speaker 2: Like, ooh, that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: We didn't think of. But yeah, I mean Steve Cohen,

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Speaker 1: Coming from the Willponds era, It's just it's refreshing.

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Speaker 2: You can tell how much of a fan that Steve

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like having gone to the spring training

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Speaker 1: ready for this Mets team to win, which is just

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Speaker 1: what we've been waiting for. The dark cloud's been lifted

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Speaker 2: It's also great to see him in this offseason because

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Speaker 2: there could have been a situation. I think we have

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Speaker 2: to staying under the luxury tax. Whether you like that

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Speaker 2: plan while improving the team tremendously. It shows that there's

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Speaker 2: for because we've never really had a thorough, legitimate process

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Speaker 2: trust the people in place to continue to do those things. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think from baseball from baseball Seah of course.

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Speaker 1: Like it's we were involved in the top three free

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Speaker 1: We had our hat in the ring, and that's something

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Speaker 1: we haven't even done. So just the fact that we're

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Speaker 1: making a conscious attempt to try to get better players

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Speaker 1: definitely very It's great, and we didn't put ourselves in

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Speaker 1: a hole like you said. Look, yes, we could have

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Speaker 2: the fact that there was a team who was willing

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Speaker 2: but you the willingness to step away from the table

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Speaker 2: It's more than fine.

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Speaker 1: but as Steve Cohen has said over and over again,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a this year kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: This year would be great, but three to five years

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Speaker 1: is his target window to win a World Series, and

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Speaker 1: he's putting us in a great spot right now for

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Speaker 1: those three to five years, especially if we can bring

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Speaker 1: back Lindor after this season. I mean, I think it's

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Speaker 1: we have to do this offseason or going into next offseason,

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Speaker 1: is resigned Lindor, and then what else did you go?

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Speaker 2: Probably I would probably say that con four them. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know which one of them I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: it seems like it would benefit both parties to get

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Speaker 2: an extra year of control under Thor where he can

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Speaker 2: rehab well this year, pitch a full season going into

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Speaker 2: his contract year. It'd be beneficial for everyone. It just

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Speaker 2: seems like maybe that those two sides aren't as close

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Speaker 2: as some people would hope they would be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think probably with Noah too, A little bit

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Speaker 2: the two hundred million dollar contract he covets, if not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Smiley actually not looking it up. One year

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Speaker 2: He put together a fifty to sixty inning sample last season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was what did he come out to?

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Speaker 1: He's like he's our guy, Like he was there for

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Speaker 1: You need that, and I mean, like just to have

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Speaker 2: Just talk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just have a conversation. Say hey, why didn't you

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Speaker 2: Just just at lunch, a couple a cup of coffee, exactly,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, the Mets we got a lot

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Speaker 2: Many good problems we're not at. The Mets have so

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Speaker 1: Well, you probably know where I'm going right now, because

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Speaker 1: Ki or may Luis Ki. Ormey has gone from a

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Speaker 2: Week, definitely, And something really seemed to click for Gillor

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Speaker 2: Like since that moment, he has an ops over seven

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Speaker 1: No know, you thought you thought if you got a

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Speaker 1: we'd probably call like a raised player, where it's like

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Speaker 1: plays a bunch of different positions, plays them really well,

436
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Speaker 1: has a good eye, puts the ball in play like

437
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Speaker 1: he's kind of a Joey Wendall. Ish.

438
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Speaker 2: I was literally about to say, he's a lot like

439
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Speaker 2: Joey Wendall. He kind of comes out like a Joey Wendall.

440
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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, and I think, and that's a that's a

441
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Speaker 1: great player to.

442
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Speaker 2: Have, Like that's was that natural? Did you just think

443
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Speaker 2: of that?

444
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Speaker 1: I just thought of it right now. I was like, say,

445
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Speaker 1: because when you were talking about like the you know,

446
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Speaker 1: putting him at third base, you put him over one

447
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Speaker 1: fifty games like expanding his thing. I'm like, man, he's

448
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Speaker 1: like he's like Joey Wendell and Joey Wendell always.

449
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Speaker 2: That always happens to Joey Wendle. He's always going to

450
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Speaker 2: the season. Everyone thinks Joey Wenda's gonna be platoon guy,

451
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Speaker 2: Joey Went's gonna play half time, He's gonna come in

452
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Speaker 2: for a defense replacement. And you look at Joey Wendell's

453
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Speaker 2: end of the season, You're like, what he had thirteen

454
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Speaker 2: homers and like eighteen steals. When did that happen? Howd

455
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Speaker 2: joe wann to play on hundred fifty ye?

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he played their base in the World Series

457
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Speaker 1: like every single game, like he's a guy that can play.

458
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Speaker 1: Giormy has played himself into more playing time, and I

459
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Speaker 1: think he might play into being a legitimate, like every

460
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Speaker 1: day almost every day player, and at least, like if

461
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Speaker 1: there were, you know, something to happen where we need

462
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Speaker 1: someone to step in, it's really nice to know that

463
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Speaker 1: we have him as our first option and it's no

464
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Speaker 1: longer gonna be you know, like an Eric Campbell type

465
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Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, what are we gonna do here?

466
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Speaker 1: Or Matt Renins where it's like, Okay, we know we're

467
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Speaker 1: getting a glove, but the bat tike out there. Yeah,

468
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Speaker 1: ty Kelly, you know, sorry ty Kelly, but I mean.

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Speaker 2: That Twitter king, Twitter King.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

471
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Speaker 2: But like even if you would have asked this question

472
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Speaker 2: a month ago, right after the Mets gave Perrazza a

473
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Speaker 2: camp invite and VR a major league contract, there was

474
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Speaker 2: probably a world with Yoromy wasn't even making this team,

475
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Speaker 2: or at least he found himself on the bubble. And

476
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Speaker 2: he has left absolutely no doubt that he's gonna be

477
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Speaker 2: a valuable contributor this season.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like because of the options. So I think he

479
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Speaker 1: probably still has at least one option left, based probably

480
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Speaker 1: based on how much. He's kind of been down in

481
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Speaker 1: PRASA and you are and VR definitely don't. But now

482
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Speaker 1: one of those guys is gonna start in Triple A

483
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Speaker 1: or they just become a free agent because there's no

484
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Speaker 1: shot in the world. Geormy cannot make this roster. He

485
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Speaker 1: has to.

486
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Speaker 2: There's a better chance of him being in the opening

487
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Speaker 2: day line up. Yeah, I mean, you get a good

488
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Speaker 2: he actually does have one option left check.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like you got a tough righty like

490
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Speaker 1: a Sureser or you know, a Strasburg. How do you

491
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Speaker 1: not start him over JD. Davis, especially if you got

492
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Speaker 1: or you have Stroman. With the ground ball possibilities.

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Speaker 2: With Stroman and and Peterson, I think you're going to

494
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Speaker 2: see a lot and that's how Yes, I think those

495
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Speaker 2: early to strom pitch today, right, Stromy made that nice

496
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Speaker 2: pick of short when you're so sid Stroman. Yeah, great.

497
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Speaker 2: But Stroman and are gonna be paired together at like

498
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Speaker 2: like some pitchers are paired with catchers because there's gonna

499
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Speaker 2: be just more ground balls when he pitches. That's just

500
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Speaker 2: his style. Sam with Peterson, So you're going to see

501
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Speaker 2: Giormey in those days. You'll probably see J. D. Davis

502
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Speaker 2: more on the days where ground pitches, when you're gonna

503
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Speaker 2: get more fly balls.

504
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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean there's it's it's gonna be a

505
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Speaker 1: really just vastly improved team from the defensive side. You

506
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Speaker 1: have Lindora Short, you have Geor Man.

507
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Speaker 2: We're hoping, We're hoping, We're hoping.

508
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mets stuff, we're bringing the d.

509
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Speaker 2: Metstuff needs to forget the d up.

510
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Speaker 1: Yes, But I mean, like I'm just it's such it,

511
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Speaker 1: like you said, it's such a weird scenario that we're

512
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Speaker 1: in where Luis ki Orme is now a player that

513
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Speaker 1: we're talking about that is gonna make a significant impact,

514
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Speaker 1: and we want to make a significant impact.

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Speaker 2: Speaking about him glowingly, yes.

516
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Speaker 1: I mean like he's a big part. He's a big

517
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Speaker 1: part of the episode today.

518
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Speaker 2: He's also just a big part of like the culture

519
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Speaker 2: this team has built. Like one of the most beautiful

520
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Speaker 2: things about that A Bad was that every single pitch,

521
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Speaker 2: like Pete was like on top of the dugout, like

522
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Speaker 2: Helvic thrusting, and Tom's just like waving his arms around,

523
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Speaker 2: Like these guys have all played together for years and

524
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,879
Speaker 2: years and years. They came up together. All of these

525
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Speaker 2: guys were drafted in the same cluster of years, and

526
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Speaker 2: they're friends. They like each other. Like, it's so clear

527
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Speaker 2: to see what this team like, the relationships that they have,

528
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Speaker 2: and how strong they are. And I think players throughout

529
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Speaker 2: the off season cited as reasons they wanted to join,

530
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Speaker 2: Like there's some kind of culture that the Mets have

531
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Speaker 2: and you could even throw Rojas into that. So you

532
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 2: also he managed with these guys through the minor leagues.

533
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Speaker 2: There's a connectiveness here that's incredible.

534
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Speaker 1: No, it's awesome. It's awesome how the Mets culture has changed.

535
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Speaker 1: Just it's not an overnight thing, obviously, because we saw

536
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Speaker 1: it in twenty nineteen. We saw it in twenty But

537
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Speaker 1: they're just they're a really fun team to watch. You're

538
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Speaker 1: starting to put them in the same conversation of like

539
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Speaker 1: the San Diego Padres are fun to watch, the White

540
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Speaker 1: Sox are fun to watch, Like these are teams that

541
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Speaker 1: play baseball, have fun, play good baseball, gonna be competitive,

542
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Speaker 1: and are.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be genuinely enjoy it. Yeah, Like, I mean, I

544
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Speaker 2: feel together.

545
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Speaker 1: I've been to a couple of teams that where I've

546
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Speaker 1: walked into their clubhouse in spring training and it's just silent.

547
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Speaker 1: They're sitting in their locker room. They're doing nothing. And

548
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Speaker 1: those teams tend to be the worst teams in the league.

549
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Speaker 1: They tend to be the teams that disappoint. Where then

550
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Speaker 1: I walked into the Padres locker room, I walked into

551
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers, I walked into the White Sox. These guys

552
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 1: are all talking to each other, hanging out their friends.

553
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Speaker 2: Loose, Yeah, loose.

554
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Speaker 1: It's so important. I mean you hear Keith talk about

555
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 1: it all the time during the game. He's like, you know,

556
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Speaker 1: it's important to take your jobs seriously, but you got

557
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Speaker 1: to be able to enjoy yourself a little bit.

558
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Speaker 2: And the Magmatics talks about that too. It lot like

559
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 2: you have to be you have to have relationships to

560
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Speaker 2: players on your team where you can be comfortable with like,

561
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Speaker 2: because when you're comfortable with the positivity, that makes you

562
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Speaker 2: more willing and able to like call people out for

563
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Speaker 2: negative things, and that's how you create accountability and everyone

564
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Speaker 2: remains on the same page.

565
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Speaker 1: And it's like when you then call those people out,

566
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Speaker 1: it's not like because I don't like you. It's because

567
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Speaker 1: it's like, dude, we got to do better. It's not

568
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Speaker 1: like a calling you out thing, it's like, hey, let's

569
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Speaker 1: fix this.

570
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Speaker 2: We're friends, this is this whole thing's an organism. This

571
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Speaker 2: only works if we're all working together, which is beautiful.

572
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Speaker 2: That's kind of sad people like I don't listen that

573
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Speaker 2: we hoping things around the corner.

574
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Speaker 1: Yes, we've we've got positive thoughts, we got positive vibes

575
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Speaker 1: with the Mets, and we want to capitalizes as much

576
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Speaker 1: as possible LFGM. I think that's like, I love that

577
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: slogan so much more than ELGAB. It's just significantly better.

578
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Speaker 1: But we also do have a lot of new people

579
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Speaker 1: coming into the team. We talked briefly about a few

580
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Speaker 1: of them. Who are some of the guys that during

581
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Speaker 1: the camp and spring training that like maybe have impressed

582
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Speaker 1: you a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we spoke about before, But I think mc williams

584
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Speaker 2: is a guy who we're going to to see come

585
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Speaker 2: June July pitching seventh and d eight innings and we're

586
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Speaker 2: gonna be like, feel good about it. Sam mc williams,

587
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Speaker 2: he he came in. I think he had a minor

588
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: league contract, honestly. Yeah, he's one of these new age

589
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Speaker 2: pitchers who he never had any type of production to

590
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Speaker 2: boot ever, but he just has like the pitch specs

591
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Speaker 2: and like the shapes and designs that he want out

592
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Speaker 2: of pitches. Like his fastball explodes, it's incredible.

593
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Speaker 1: It comes out so nice, it's awesome.

594
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Speaker 2: And Trevor May also we referenced him before. He is

595
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Speaker 2: another guy who he went under the radar because that

596
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Speaker 2: signing happened very quickly. It was when there were a

597
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Speaker 2: lot of other big names still on the board that

598
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Speaker 2: people were maybe more focused on, especially even with relievers

599
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: like his exact position. But Trevor May for years has

600
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Speaker 2: been very reliable, very consistent, and he his velocity has

601
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Speaker 2: been ticking up and ticking up and ticking up and

602
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 2: ticking up every single year. Jeremy Heffner has away with

603
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: these pitchers of finding new finding more velocity. It's also

604
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Speaker 2: been telling that we're talking about the bullpen right now.

605
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Speaker 2: The bullpen is the bullpen's very prevalent on my mind.

606
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Speaker 1: The bullpen's good.

607
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Speaker 2: Like I think, I think fine.

608
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Speaker 1: Worried, but I'm liking a lot you've seen so far.

609
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Speaker 1: Why are you worried? What are you worried about?

610
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Speaker 2: I'm very worried about with Lugo being injured and now

611
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 2: the news about Carrasco today, it's gonna test pitching depth

612
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: early where if ptansis which doesn't look like he does,

613
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Speaker 2: if he's not someone who you can rely on late

614
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Speaker 2: in games, I like at least like your backup day,

615
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Speaker 2: like you're gonna have like your a bullpen go game

616
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 2: one has a go two days in a row. But

617
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Speaker 2: you need You're gonna need guys to get outs on

618
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Speaker 2: the third, fourth, and fifth days, especially when Lukezy or

619
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Speaker 2: i'm Amoo might be starting a game and you're gonna

620
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Speaker 2: need more innings out of certain guys out of the bullpen,

621
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Speaker 2: like you need depth right now, it's going to be tested.

622
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Speaker 1: I know you're a big fan of this guy too

623
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Speaker 1: because we talked about him a little bit before. But

624
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Speaker 1: Drew Smith, Drew Smith has been open eyes too. I

625
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Speaker 1: think this camp Drew Drew Drew Flow, Drew Flow. I

626
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Speaker 1: like that he's just like he was a guy last

627
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Speaker 1: year that I felt like, just like never really got

628
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: a real shot, Like it just seemed like he was

629
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Speaker 1: the guy that they would send down whenever they needed

630
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Speaker 1: another starter or they needed you know, another arm out there,

631
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Speaker 1: and he would go out there and pitch three or

632
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Speaker 1: four innings against the team when they're getting smacked down.

633
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Speaker 1: All right, go go back, go back to the alternate site,

634
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: like you did your job's I used it up. You'll

635
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Speaker 1: be back in a couple of weeks to do the

636
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: same thing over and over again.

637
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Speaker 2: Smith kind of comes from the same He's like a

638
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: kin to McWilliams, where like you see him pitch and

639
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: the design and like it looks good, it should work,

640
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: Like when you see a successful reliever, their stuff looks

641
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 2: like how Drew Smith's stuff looks. They're just like a

642
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: slight tweak or a slight adjustment right there. Maybe something mentally,

643
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 2: it's something it will click. I'm confident will click. I've

644
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 2: been confident Drew Smith for far too long. I've given

645
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: that guy so many chances. In my own head, he's

646
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: like a really bad ex girlfriend. I just continue to

647
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: trust him like I'll never I will always give Drew

648
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Speaker 2: Smith another chance. Yes, I see his but I see

649
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: his potential and I really wanted to work out.

650
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Speaker 1: No, I was just say speaking of you know, kind

651
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: of bad ex girlfriends or good ex girlfriends, however you

652
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: want to phrase it. Let's talk about probably a little

653
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz's action here because he's been he's been a

654
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: thorn in the side a little bit since we got him. Yeah,

655
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: yours mine too, is definitely mine. And like he, I

656
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: go through phases of like, Okay, well we got him.

657
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: I was super excited. I was like this guy I

658
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: saw he did in the WBC and I was like,

659
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna be sick. And then he came and I

660
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh God, notes it's Armando Benitez all over again.

661
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: It's Aaron Heilman. Like this guy just can't get out

662
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: of his own way. But then last year he was good,

663
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: but then he had a little rough stretch and then

664
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: he was great again.

665
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: Peek behind the current for the listeners at home. Last

666
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: year there was probably a third these a forty game

667
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: stretch where every single time Edwin Diaz would come and

668
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: pitch Mark would leave the room you didn't watch. He

669
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: would get get it, get up in a huff and say,

670
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: it's it. I can't watch this guy. I'm out of here.

671
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: I want to see it. Don't even tell me what happens.

672
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm leaving. Knock on my door. Wins out for a

673
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: bat a month and I had two into two months season.

674
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not lying. I did not watch the ninth thitting

675
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: of very many Mets games, and some of them were

676
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: blown safs, but a lot of them were really good performances.

677
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: The majority of them were really good performances. And I

678
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: think I'm starting to turn a little bit of a

679
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: new leaf with Edwin. I'm starting to trust him a

680
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: little more. My trust isn't there yet, be nice, it's

681
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: not there yet, but I'm trusting him more. And I

682
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: saw what Dacomo said today that when they asked das

683
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: questions on the Zoom conference or whatever, and the thing

684
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: that really stuck out to me was when he said,

685
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I can do whatever I want. I

686
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: feel like I'm the best pitcher out there. And he

687
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: seems like he's a guy who's when he's feeling good

688
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: and when he's confident, he is able to be one

689
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: of the best closers in the game. And I feel

690
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: like that's what's been lacking in New York, especially for him.

691
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like even when he gave the home run

692
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: de real Muto, which I think is like kind of

693
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: the not the breaking point, but that's the one that

694
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: everyone remembers, and he just threw up his hands as like,

695
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do? And it seems like

696
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: Hefner's been able to get into his head, get him

697
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: in the right mindset, get him right, and it's he's

698
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: back to like I bring up the WBC again. But

699
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: when he faced the Netherlands and he had I think

700
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: it was like, I don't know how anounce of balantine

701
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: up at the plate. He threw two fastballs right down

702
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: the middle, and it was like he took big hacks

703
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: and then the third pitch he went up and in

704
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: and backed him off the plate and it was a

705
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: little it was a little tense. Bench just cleared a

706
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: little bit. But Diez was like talking crap. He was like, hey, yeah,

707
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: let's go come at me. You want to go listen

708
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: to And that's what I want to see from him.

709
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: I want to see him be, honestly a little bit

710
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: of an asshole. I want him to be a little

711
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: bit of a dick. If it's if that's what's gonna

712
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: take for him to be the elite closer that we

713
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: saw in Seattle and saw a little bit last year,

714
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: do it please be the most hated man by every

715
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: team in baseball, Because if that's what makes you perform

716
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: the best and give the Mets wins. I'm so in

717
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: I'll buy your jersey tomorrow, I don't care.

718
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: A big part of closing is like the mental aspect

719
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: of it, Like you need to be like a half

720
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: of a psychopath to like keey yourself up, sit there

721
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: for like two and a half hours, then stretch and

722
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 2: come in just like in a blaze of like fierce

723
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: like competitive rage and just throw your just balls out

724
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: for an inning and just feel that like tenacity, Like

725
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: you need swag to be good at this, like you

726
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: need to be a terminator. There can be no question

727
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: inside of your own mind who the greatest pitcher in

728
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: the world is. The only answer is you. Even like

729
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: Cole salcer like has to walk into the ninth inning

730
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: in Camden Yards and be like I am the King.

731
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: I am Cole Salcier.

732
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: You just have to, like like Kendall Grayman is gonna

733
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: walk out this year in Seattle and be like, this

734
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: is my freaking inning, this is mine, Like you just

735
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: have to do that. You have to feel that way.

736
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: You need swagger, you need confidence, and you need to

737
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 2: believe you're the baddest man on the planet because for

738
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: those twenty minutes you might be which.

739
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: Like it all. Whenever I think like the beast man

740
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: on the planet in terms of like closers, I always

741
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: go back to like Brian Wilson, who, like, let's be honest,

742
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: didn't have like the greatest stuff. He was like he

743
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: was okay, but his mindset was probably the most like

744
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: the strongest mind that we've seen from a closer in

745
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: a long time, where he was like I just don't care.

746
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shove it down your throat. I'm gonna throw

747
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: my ninety three mile an hour fastball at you. You're

748
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: not gonna hit it, and I'm gonna dance on you

749
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: and do my little, you know, my little thing with

750
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: my crazy beard. Like he was legitimately psycho, but he

751
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: was huge for the Giants during their stretch where they

752
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: were great.

753
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: Same same thing with them. What's his name, I'm blank,

754
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: gun named Rodney Fernanda Rodney.

755
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, like yeah, of course sane, of course you have

756
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: to you have to be halfway deranged, like do that

757
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: on a baseball field.

758
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: Those people he just defeated.

759
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: Like Rafaol Soriano. I remember like after he'd get a saved,

760
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: he'd rip his shirt out of his like pants, get

761
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: this ship off.

762
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: Of me, like dude, val Verdi. Even when val Verdi

763
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: was closing games in Queens, when the Mets were a

764
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: disaster and he was throwing like eighty eight miles an hour.

765
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: He yeah, he's all about like let's.

766
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: Go, And like, I think that's like, it's nice because

767
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: probably in the past in baseball, you couldn't really have

768
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: shown that much like enthusiasm or like bravado without like

769
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: getting the guy on your team hit. But now baseball

770
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: starting to move a little bit more towards like the

771
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: having fun, showing emotion type things. And I think it's

772
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: gonna help a guy like Diaz because I mean, I'm

773
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: the best pitcher out there. I love that he said that.

774
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: That's just something we wouldn't have heard from him even

775
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: last year.

776
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't think it's also six innings and no walks.

777
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing. Yeah good. He's not someone knock

778
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: on every single thing I have here. But he's not

779
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: somebody that I'm I'm worried about right now. It's really

780
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: the depth behind them. I'm scared a little bit about Ptantas,

781
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm scared about Lugo's elbow. I'm a little bit nervous

782
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: for familiar Like those are the guys who need to

783
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: fill out the meat and potatoes of this bullpen, who

784
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: need to help us in one hundred and sixty two games.

785
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: They're the ones who's gonna rely on and just time

786
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: will tell, like to have the stuff, we have, the infrastructure,

787
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: we just was not gonna know till me.

788
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: No. Yeah, So that's why they play the games, right,

789
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: Gotta use a cliche every once in a while. That's

790
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: why I played the game like one, let's play two,

791
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: Let's play two not and then like I think, another

792
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: really cool thing that I've been liking in camp and

793
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of toned down a little bit now is

794
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: it's gone a little bit deeper. But all the young

795
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: guys that we've been seeing, we got a little taste

796
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: of Maurisio, we saw a little bit of baby Alvarez,

797
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: Picrow Armstrong, Like I was really surprised with Marisio in

798
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: the field because he was always a guy that you've

799
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: been hearing about, like he's probably gonna end up moving

800
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: to like third base or maybe a corner outfield spot

801
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: that he's not gonna be athletic but I short, it's

802
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: not be looked pretty good and he's and he's also

803
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: a just massive human being. I didn't realize how big

804
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: of this kid is.

805
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: Like now he literally looks like like Brandon Marshall, Like

806
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: he could be a wide receiver, like any guy. Allay's

807
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: gonna sign a nice deal probably later this evening, Maursio,

808
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: could he get even that money?

809
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: If not?

810
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: More like, if you could just clean up his footwork

811
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: running routes like nice. He is a beast And what

812
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: is he is?

813
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: He nineteen nineteen, twenty years old?

814
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: He might be? He might be nineteen or twenty, Yeah

815
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: he might. I mean honestly, like everything in the minor

816
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: league just kind of got frozen because of last year.

817
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: But don't I don't even know how all he is.

818
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like I remember when he got mentioned

819
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: as the Mets top prospect, Like before he was their

820
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: top guy, I was.

821
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: Like nineteen, he's turning twenty by opening.

822
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: Dey, okay, he's twenty years old.

823
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, born in two thousand and one. If you want

824
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: to feel old, Oh.

825
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah that's that is that's that's weird and we're

826
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: only twenty five. But yeah, like I remember when the

827
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: first the hype started coming for him. First, I was like, oh,

828
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: big kid, shortstop, he's eighteen years old. I love this.

829
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: And then he kind of didn't hit. He kind of

830
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: showed no power a little bit, and I was like, ah, like,

831
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: what's this really going to turn into? The glove wasn't

832
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: as highest people thought. But then he's starting to get

833
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: the little bit hype back. So I'm excited about Mauricio.

834
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: The guy I love the most in their farm systems,

835
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: Francisco Alvarez. I'm obsessed with him. I think he's so sick.

836
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: But like course, catchers got to take a little great

837
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: to salt with everything.

838
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: Okay, there's no there's no such thing as a catching

839
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: breast because it doesn't.

840
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: Kevin and Josh totally all hit three point thirty in

841
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: the miners at some point.

842
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: So you you can't tell me that Matt Whevers hasn't

843
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: had his best season yet. I won't be convinced. It's

844
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: still it's still possible. I'll never quit.

845
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 1: Who do you? Who's the guy that the young guy

846
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: that's impressed me the most so far this camp. If

847
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: you had to pick one.

848
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 2: If I had to pick one, it I love all

849
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: the guys we're talking about right now, But I really

850
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: have a ton of confident it's in Matthew Allen. There's

851
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: been a lot of reports coming up through the Grape

852
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: Planet of Matthew Allen spending time with the Grom, spending

853
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: time with Schroman, organizing his bullpen sessions around when those

854
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: guys are throwing. There's been tons of pictures gone up

855
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: on Twitter, like him, like with a baseball, like holding it,

856
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: I'll use my orange, like using it, pointing to his

857
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: stuff like he You want a guy like that who's

858
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: a sponge. And that's the best part of spring training

859
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: that you can put all of these players together and

860
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: the young guys can see what success takes and see

861
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: the types of things that habits the tendencies that they

862
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: need to reach that level. And I think Alan is

863
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: a guy who's like his I mean, his results of

864
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: spring have been that great. It's very difficult for young

865
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: pitchers to face major league hiers in the spring, but

866
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: you can just see his process and you can see

867
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: like his mentality and the things that he thinks about

868
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: the way he thinks about the game from a picture

869
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: that's astronomically important.

870
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: And again that's like always the hardest thing is figuring

871
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: out that mental side of it and becoming like not

872
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: just a thrower, because he clearly has the physical attributes.

873
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean he's another just like really big, big shoulder

874
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: strong kid, So the stuff is always going to be there.

875
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: But if you can't put it together on the mat

876
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: and actually pitch, that's what separates the guys that are

877
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: pitchers from throwers. And yeah, definitely matt Allen hanging around

878
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: Jacob deGrom. I mean I will literally pay him to

879
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: hang around Jacob de Gram whatever he wants. Whatever that's

880
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: a paying him, I'll match him. Just hang around him,

881
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: do it.

882
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: I would like to hang around Jacob de Gram.

883
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm I could probably learn a think or two. My

884
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: shoulder doesn't really work anymore, but I'm sure da Gram

885
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: could teach me how to throw lefty. I mean, he

886
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: can do whatever he wants.

887
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: Literally, I can probably find ext a couple miles an hour.

888
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, crack eighty it hit that eighty one. All right,

889
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: call it a day, We're done.

890
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: Matthew Allen's only nineteen. Also, I thought he was a

891
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: little bolder. Didn't realized he was a high school guy.

892
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a part of the he was part

893
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: of the Baity draft I think where they got him

894
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: and Josh Wolf, who thank you Josh Wolf for being

895
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: a part of the trade package for Francisco Lindoor. Appreciate you.

896
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: One of the one of the great metser I really do.

897
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: I hope.

898
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: I hope he buys into the Cleveland Indians pitching over there.

899
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: And because go ahead, go for it, dude, your thing

900
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: ale Central win it forever.

901
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: We don't have to talk about the other players we've

902
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: traded away though. We can. We can move on past

903
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: that because you know, O got worry about that, and

904
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: even pie Crow Armstrong, which was you know, the first

905
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: round pick this year. He's a big, strong kid, definitely.

906
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: He he like a lot of the comps I've seen

907
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: to him was Brett Gardner. When you see a Brett

908
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: Gardner comp you're not really generally excited though.

909
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: And that's what I saw when I was like doing

910
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: all my draft stuff. I was like Brett Gardner. I

911
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: was like, and we took him like twelve, Like, yeah,

912
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: he had a fifteen year career, but he's never been

913
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: even close to one of the best outfielders in baseball.

914
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: And I see like, like to get like prospectee for

915
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: a second. I've seeing a guy Corbyn Carroll on the Diamondbacks,

916
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: and I could see Pete crow Armstrong because I can't

917
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: say Pete because Pete makes everyone think of alonzo a PCA,

918
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what they call the PCA PC. I

919
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: can see him having a similar trajectory to Corbyn Carroll

920
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 2: because Corbyn car about the same size. Are both very speedy,

921
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: contact oriented players. Please put on a little bit of weight.

922
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: He's added a little bit of loft to a swing

923
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: over the last few years. I could just see his like,

924
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: especially when you're defensive first outfielder, and you'll you're not

925
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: gonna lose the defensibility. He has ten years of peak

926
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: athleticism remaining. You can just bring that hitting up to

927
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: a certain degree, which will This is a guy who

928
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: will probably nudge into the top hundred lists over the

929
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: next eighteen months.

930
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think like Pete, I know people who

931
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: are like, you know, heavily invested into like the prospects,

932
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: especially the draft guys. Joe Doyle on a uh Twitter

933
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: if you want to follow him, he's really good, but

934
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: he was like he was messaging, He's like, dude, I'mtonia

935
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: Pca is making huge strides because he saw it was

936
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: a little like initially wasn't as excited as some other people.

937
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, let's see what he's got. Like

938
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: he's a young kid, especially.

939
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 2: Be some of the guys on the board at that point.

940
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, but he's like, dude, everyone who's been

941
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: seeing this guy loves what they're seeing and that the

942
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: trajector just keeps going up and up. He's like, so

943
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: I think you might have gotten like I think a

944
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: more reasonable comp now is probably like we hope that

945
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: he could get to the offensive like prowess of Brandon Neimo,

946
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: because that would be that would be sick. Apparently he's

947
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: a very patient hitter, which is like also something that

948
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: is really hard to teach.

949
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: That's the hardesting to teach him. When young guys have that,

950
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: it's like the sky becomes like the sky becomes a limit.

951
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's like you look at the top prospect

952
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: list lists. Typically if you look at like the guys

953
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: who are super super young and super high, it's because

954
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: they have a great eye at the plate. A guy

955
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: like you know, Wander Franco, who also hits really well, too,

956
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: so yeah.

957
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: Or or they're just freaks of nature like like Joe

958
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: Daller talents too like no big deal, or they're just

959
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: absolutely physically I mean, we talked about the young guys

960
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: who talking about the bullpen.

961
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: I'll talk about the Mets lineup a little bit here,

962
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: because we have so many great players that we have

963
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: the opportunity to have a different player at every single

964
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: spot in the lineup, and you probably wouldn't really have

965
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: a problem with any of them being in any spot.

966
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: So I think it'll be fun for us to do

967
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: before the season starts in today's episode, go over what

968
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: our ideal lineup would be and how we what our

969
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 1: opening day lineup would look for de Gram on the mound,

970
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm gonna let you go first and I'll

971
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: come in with mine after you.

972
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: I love Brandon Nemo hitting leadoff so much. It's like,

973
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, sometimes things just fit really well. Like

974
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 2: sometimes you like you make cupcakes in those little trays

975
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: and just fill them up and you're like, wow, this

976
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: fits so perfectly, Like I'm so happy I have this.

977
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: Having Brandon Nemo and not hitting him leadoff would just

978
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: be a disservice. To baseball in general. He is the

979
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: perfect prototypical leadoff hither he is on base percentage is

980
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: gonna be pushing four hundred. His strikeouts have consistently been

981
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: going down for a few years running. He has some pop,

982
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: but not a ton. He's I think faster than giving

983
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,479
Speaker 2: credit for take a good that bet he I want

984
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: Brandon to see the first pitch of the game, and

985
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: I I can't be more serious about that.

986
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: I think. I think at the leadoff spot, we're on

987
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: the exact same page. Like I was used to be

988
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: like Team Lindor or Team McNeil on the leadoff spot.

989
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: But Nimo, the eye has plus a little bit of pop.

990
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: Like you said, I mean, I'm just gonna be repeating

991
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: what you said. He's up there with some of the

992
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: best eyes in the game. Like you're talking. Ron Soto

993
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: might trout Joey Vado like he's in that conversation as

994
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: one of the elite eyes. And I think even if

995
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: you look at like WRC plus from the last few years,

996
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: look at that sabermetrics dropping him, I think he's like

997
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: a top ten.

998
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: Player, especially when you look at things like his chase rate,

999
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: also like his O swing to continue analytically like he

1000
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: will not. Sometimes he'll swing at bad pitches, of course

1001
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 2: everybody does, and sometimes have bad strikeouts, but he will

1002
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: not put himself in a disadvantageous situation. And from the

1003
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: leadoff there, that's what you want. You want to put

1004
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: the pressure on the other team early. And when he

1005
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: works a walk to start the game and sprints the

1006
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: first base like big, beautiful google smile across his face,

1007
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 2: like there's no better feeling. And the fact that now

1008
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: when there's a man on first, nobody out, Francisco Lindor,

1009
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: who's my pick for number two? Hither is going to

1010
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: be walking to the play, it says, It makes me

1011
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: really happy and really getting and really just trying to

1012
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: think about it.

1013
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on the same page right now. And the

1014
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: same thing is like McNeil could go at two. You

1015
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: could put Alonso like maybe at two if you're feeling

1016
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: a little crazy trying to get like the power going.

1017
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: But he is a big double play candidate, and he's

1018
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna hit to some hard ground balls where it's it's

1019
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: a double play. So I don't like him at two.

1020
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: Lindor definitely at two, like I said, if he wasn't

1021
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: gonna be one. He's gonna be two for me. I

1022
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: love his power. I love the fact that, like the

1023
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: three year span where he was like in his you know,

1024
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: best years outside of twenty twenty thirty homers, forty doubles,

1025
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: twenty stolen bases a season. I don't care what you

1026
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: have to say about his last twenty twenty. If he

1027
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: does twenty five and thirty, I'm good. I'm good with

1028
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: that short.

1029
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 2: Stig hitting eighty five whatever.

1030
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's that one two in the league

1031
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: is up there with some of the best of my arm.

1032
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, twist my arm. So and also like there's you

1033
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: want your best hitters hitting as high as possible. And

1034
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: I think if you look at this mess, lineup every

1035
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: single guy, but even if you include Nemo just because

1036
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: just because he fits a one leadoff, if you had

1037
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: to pick one guy to get the most at bats,

1038
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: I think you just picked Francisco Lindor. I think that

1039
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: fact alone means you have to hit him second. I

1040
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: want him to be at the plate as much as

1041
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: humanly possible this season.

1042
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: And I don't think Lindor is a guy that strikes

1043
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: out a lot either, So it's not like it's not

1044
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: like you even have to worry about like, Okay, if

1045
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: we want to steal Nimo on two strikes, you can

1046
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: get a little creative. Mets don't do it too often,

1047
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: but you can do a hit and roll with Lindor.

1048
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: He puts the ball in play, So sure, I think

1049
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: like the Mets, that's something that they seem to be

1050
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: focused on to this year. A little bit more is

1051
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: like trying to be a little more athletic on the

1052
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: base pats and a little more aggressive, which they just

1053
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: haven't done recently. But I yeah, Lindor too. I think

1054
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: at three, I'm just to.

1055
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: See what we got.

1056
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: A three now, that's the thing.

1057
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: My three again, sticking with this same idea that I want. Well,

1058
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: First of the Mets have a weird lefty problem, which

1059
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: again earlier we're talking about weird problems. The Mets have

1060
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: a lot of lefties in this order. So the fact

1061
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: that you have a switch hitter like Lindor, again thinking

1062
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: purely from like a lineup construction facing facing bullpen standpoint,

1063
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: you want to stick a lefty with him, so you

1064
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: can have to switch there in between with the other

1065
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: left He moved the lefties out, so you don't have

1066
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: a glove of lefties later on the bottom of the lineup,

1067
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 2: so I would put michaelking Ford though in the three hole.

1068
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: I looking forth though, just is a three hitter. Like

1069
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 2: traditional baseball sense, he is a three hitter. He has power,

1070
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: but it's more about contact. He takes walks, he doesn't

1071
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: try he strikes out, he doesn't trike out of.

1072
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: A ton like.

1073
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: He is smart, he's good at bats, he drives the

1074
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: ball to off fields. He can do so many things

1075
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: at the plate. It's a lot of other guys in

1076
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: his team can't do. And I really want to want

1077
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: to hit there.

1078
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like he's you talked about wanting to

1079
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: have the best three hitters up or you want to

1080
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: have your best players get the most of bats off.

1081
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: And we just named our best three offensive but guys

1082
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: arguably on the team right there. So I can't disagree

1083
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: on Confordo for this is I think where you can

1084
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: get a little different Probably if you're a Mets fan,

1085
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: you could probably go a couple of different ways. For me,

1086
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: at least, I'm going Pete Alonzo. I think Pete's just

1087
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: like he is your four hit I agree he's agree,

1088
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, the big barrel chested guy comes up to

1089
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: the plate. He's got this guy's bats. He does a

1090
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: little shimmies his bat thing at the plate, and he

1091
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: just hits tanks. Like people want to talk about the

1092
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: bad year he had last year, which like it wasn't good,

1093
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't what we saw from his rookie season, but

1094
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: he still had what like an eight twenty five ops.

1095
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: I think still was on pace to hit just as

1096
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: many homers as he did the year before. So like, yes,

1097
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: his average was down, I think the thing that everyone

1098
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: was worried about was like the chasing was a lot

1099
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: was a lot higher, and I don't think he was

1100
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: walking as much.

1101
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: He was walking. He was walking striking out about the

1102
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: same rate when the whole when everything was said and done,

1103
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: his bad pop was down a little bit. That turn

1104
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: may is iso way down, but I think a lot

1105
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: of that is a function of the baseball too that

1106
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: people can't discount. Like twenty nineteen was an offensive environment

1107
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: like nothing we've ever seen before and probably nothing like

1108
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: we're ever gonna see again. So there we was. There

1109
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: was just things happening that year that you're not going

1110
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: to expect. I think that anyone who expects Pele Lionza

1111
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: to go to sixty three, fifty five, eighty fifty, one hundred,

1112
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty, that's not going to happen. He's not.

1113
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: He's not. Jimmy Fox, had Greenberg.

1114
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: You do that for multiple seasons. You were literally going

1115
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: into the best power hitters of all time category. I

1116
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: think legitimately it was a Barry Bonds only hit like

1117
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: fifty homers, like I think it honestly was it. I'm

1118
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna say something crazy here, like only like two or

1119
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: three times and one.

1120
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: Of those seasons, let me that might be true, but also.

1121
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: No, you know what, it's even less. Barrymon's hit more

1122
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: than fifty home runs once in his career and that.

1123
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: Was the year He'll hit seventy seven.

1124
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: So to think that Peter Lomza was gonna put up

1125
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: another fifty home run here is just insane. And there

1126
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: are some Mets fans out there that I do think

1127
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen, and I want him to hit fifty

1128
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: home runs, but we have to know that the realistic

1129
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: option is around forty for him.

1130
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: Definitely, Yeah, but fine, forty good, Fine, that's.

1131
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: A bad year for Pete, Sure, sign me up.

1132
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. But the big thing about Pete, like you touched

1133
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: on a little bit, is his walk great. He needs

1134
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: to be able to keep that number above ten because

1135
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: his hit tool we know is not great because he's

1136
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: hitting forty fifty home runs like that's fine, that's where

1137
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: his skill is. I wouldn't want Pete to sacrifice power

1138
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: for contact that we are oftense, wouldn't be better if

1139
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: that happened. I want him to settle in with an

1140
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 2: on base percentage around three thirty three forty to where

1141
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: that'll take his ops around nine hundred, and that will

1142
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: keep his value as as good as it can possibly be.

1143
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: That's not even touching on defense. We're talking about the

1144
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: line what do you got?

1145
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: What do you got? A five?

1146
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: Like Dom Dominic, Tom Smith, big baby Dom. I love

1147
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: this guy.

1148
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: I love the lefty right he like switched to and

1149
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: it's like we're not we're not forcing it either, Like

1150
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: this is like probably the right five to have in

1151
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: this order.

1152
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, I id I mean again, this

1153
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: is the lineup I would draw up. I like, I

1154
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: think again, we're talking to we're kind of talking like

1155
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: in a traditional sense. But Dom is that five hitter.

1156
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: Dom is an RBI machine. Last year he had like

1157
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: as many RBI's his games played, so somewhere around there

1158
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: like something ridiculous.

1159
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: Dom was one of the best series in baseball last year. Yes,

1160
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: he is, And like that's a guy who wasn't even

1161
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: pegged to be like an everything.

1162
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: Was and then he wasn't because Don was a top

1163
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: draft pick and Dom was a very high prospect early on.

1164
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: Like uber athletic. He Dom Smith story is crazy, like

1165
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: he basically sleep Apnea basically held this guy back for

1166
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: like third three years.

1167
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: Our guy was literally like a staying up every night

1168
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: being like I just want a fall asleep, and then

1169
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: he has to go play baseball and he's like I'm

1170
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: so tired, and they're.

1171
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: Like, hey, just just stress eat.

1172
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: They're just like, hey, how about you just like wear

1173
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: this machine and you're gonna be good. He's like, oh

1174
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: my god, I know how to play baseball again.

1175
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm Back's like if you guys heard this thing

1176
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: called sleeping, It's this incredible new invention. I just learned

1177
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: about it a huge fan.

1178
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: And like after I sleep, like I feel better for the.

1179
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: Two RBIs and fifty games last year for dom Yeah,

1180
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: it's really good, amazing, and.

1181
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: Like people don't like RBIs, but like I mean it's.

1182
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: Still no, no, yeah, no, our RBIs granntequis that they

1183
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: care a lot about the things around you yet But

1184
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: it's just cool to see that, like when given.

1185
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: The opportunity he does it.

1186
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

1187
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: I think that's important. I don't think you should punish

1188
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: someone for not having RBIs, but it's like, okay, if

1189
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: the guy does drive in people when they're on base,

1190
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: like that's important.

1191
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the big distinction when talking about

1192
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: RBI is to get like little jujitu like analytics for

1193
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: a second, Like you could talk about RBIs in the

1194
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: sense of something that happened. It's not in something they're

1195
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: not predictive.

1196
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: Correct.

1197
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: Having RBIs one year isn't really indicative of having RBIs

1198
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: the following years. So we can understand it and talk

1199
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: about how great it was that happened. But having four

1200
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: the ar be as in fifty games doesn't mean next

1201
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: year he's gonna have a hundred forty hundred six.

1202
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, no, it's a It doesn't correlate that way.

1203
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: No, it's not. But that's again fine, And again I

1204
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: don't think Dom x Smith's ever gonn hit three fifteen

1205
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: again either. I think he's probably gonna settle into like

1206
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: a two seventy five ish, maybe push to eighty y eighty.

1207
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen. Like that's I think that's probably more

1208
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: the numbers he is.

1209
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even I think that, I mean again also

1210
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 2: because twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, whatever. But he'll he'll He's

1211
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: a good hither. His like hit tool is I think

1212
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: his calling card more so than his power, which which

1213
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 2: is why he fits a little bit better as like

1214
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: a five to six hither even like a three isch

1215
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: hither than the four you know. But I think then

1216
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: that's fine, Like these guys are half roles, and these

1217
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: guys are good different things. And Dom's also gonna have

1218
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: his hands full in left field, so he's gonna be

1219
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: we'll be focused on that. So we'll see. We'll see

1220
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: how it happens this year, Slim domb. We might look

1221
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: up next year and Donald just be the center Fielderm's

1222
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: playing center.

1223
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: Field bucks and out there he's just flying around, making

1224
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: diving catches.

1225
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: Dom is six feet tall, two twenty just cut up

1226
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: like lean, just running around.

1227
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: He's on the cinder guard workout. That's what it is, Okay,

1228
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: at the at the spot now, I think six is

1229
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: definitely McNeil. Yeah, I mean, like you're doubling up the lefties.

1230
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: But again, you got to put your best guys to

1231
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: get the most at bats and McNeil, like McNeil at six,

1232
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: by the way, is just insane because on almost any

1233
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: other team he's hitting one or two.

1234
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 2: Or three or three. Yeah yeah, and like he's really

1235
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: he really is that good? Like the lack of respect

1236
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: gammon to Jeff McNeil, a cross major League Baseball is

1237
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: on believed you did you see have.

1238
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: You seen the betting odds for major League hit leader?

1239
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: By the way, he's at plus two thousand. He's like

1240
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: not even close to being the favorite. Some guys I

1241
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: had him like Boba Boba, Shit's a great player. But

1242
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: you're talking about like just getting strictly hits. I don't

1243
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: know if there is a guy right now that puts

1244
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: the ball in play like Jeff McNeil, does. I mean

1245
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: Freddy Freeman, Wan Soda, Mike Trout, Okay, yeah, but those

1246
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: guys also walk a lot more than Jeff McNeil, like

1247
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: plus three thousand on major league hit leader. I might

1248
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: throw a couple hundred dollars on there and get rich

1249
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: real quick.

1250
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: He's so good. He's so fun too. He's such I know,

1251
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 2: I love it. I just love watching Jeff. He'll play baseball.

1252
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: He's such a throwback.

1253
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: He's he's he's the Murphy. He's such a like better Murphy,

1254
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: if that makes sense.

1255
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Yeah, he's Murphy without all the all the

1256
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: other stuff and maybe not like Murphy so much, but

1257
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: he like put McNeil like. A big thing with McNeil

1258
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: was that he was like he wasn't labele as a

1259
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: free swinger, but he would do anything to make contact

1260
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: before and he's been ticking that walk right up just

1261
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: a little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit,

1262
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: every single year in the league. And he was pushing

1263
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: a ten percent walk rate last year, which I would

1264
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 2: have never in a billion years thought he was gonna

1265
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: walk ten percent at the time. If he could be

1266
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: walking ten percent of the time and also be in

1267
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: like an RBI driven part of the order where his

1268
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: contact I think will play a little bit better than

1269
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: hitting leadoff, he could really have a great season. Like

1270
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: the all the pieces are there, the infrastructures in place,

1271
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: he could really really do some special things this year.

1272
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: And one in one fantasy league draft I did this

1273
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: year Rotissary League, he went in like the ninth round.

1274
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: Could usually he's like more like that's like much higher

1275
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: than usual. But I think there there just is like

1276
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: there's a foundation in place for Jeff and Neill do

1277
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: pretty special things to play this season.

1278
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: And like he's almost now Like I always like to

1279
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: use like the Yankees lineup whenever I talk about this stuff,

1280
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: but like, you know, Geoe Orschella hits six for a while,

1281
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: and we saw his numbers just like go up, and

1282
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: it's just because, Okay, do I want to face Aaron Judge,

1283
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: John Carlos, Stanton Glaber Torres or Geoe Orchella. I'm gonna

1284
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: pitch the Geoe Orchella. Jeff McNeil is almost in that

1285
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: category of like there's so many other guys I would

1286
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: rather not pitch to. Mcgeal's gonna get a lot of

1287
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: pitches to hit in that six.

1288
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 2: Spot, definitely. I mean he will. Let's segue this to

1289
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: now seventh spot of the order, because when JD. Davis plays,

1290
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Speaker 2: he's gonna be hitting seventh. And Jay Dave is not

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00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: the guy who can really pitch around. Again, there's gonna

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00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: be some lineup drawing up where either georme VR or

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Speaker 2: maybe like even like I don't know al Mora, whoever,

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00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: somebody like that. Yeah, even McCann. But like, I don't

1295
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: think McNeil's necessarily got a guy that thrives on protection.

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00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: He does get have the little red as sometimes where

1297
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: I think he could get discourage and see a lot

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00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: of pitches out of his strike zone, which again makes

1299
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: his patience to walk great more important the lower hits

1300
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 2: in the other But as long as he can remain

1301
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: selectively aggressive, which is a way like when he's good,

1302
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 2: that's how he is. When he's off, he's like these

1303
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: flails a little bit. But he can can selectively aggressive.

1304
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: Lower in the order, his counting stats might be like

1305
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: shockingly good.

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00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like that top six and even with JD

1307
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: like in the seventh spot, like that's so incredibly strong,

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00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: and like I was gonna even say, like, okay, against lefties,

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00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: you might move mcannup because McCann just crushes lefties, but

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00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: so does j D.

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Speaker 2: JD.

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00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, so what do you then moving McNeil to eight,

1313
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: like absolutely not. Maybe can't be hitting eight.

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00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: A lot of times against lefties. I have a I

1315
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: think that you're gonna see a lot of Kevin Polar

1316
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: because Kevin Pilar is also historically pretty good against I

1317
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 2: think at least better than righty's. I might be wrong there,

1318
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: but that's actually a good point, should you. We should

1319
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: transition to that talking about what this team's gonna do

1320
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: against lefties, because with all these lefties in the lineup,

1321
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: none of them really necessarily have bad splits Like and

1322
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: four though did when he was younger, he's fine now.

1323
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: Nimos aren't great who probably won't be off against lefties,

1324
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: but he still he'll still work the pitch of thecount

1325
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: against lefties. Dominick Smith has incredible splits against lefties. Pete

1326
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: is the guy who struggles against lefties, which makes no sense.

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00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: What makes no sense?

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00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, it's so weird. Yeah, I think it's gonna

1329
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: be a lot on Louis Rojas to maybe be creative

1330
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: and make sure he's playing the hot hand against lefties.

1331
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: But as many Latis as we have, without many of

1332
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 2: them struggling against lefties, I I think we'll see probably

1333
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: less platoons on this team than we have in years past.

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00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like I think, are you know, whatever the

1335
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: platoon it's gonna be called whatever it is, it's more

1336
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: so gonna be Okay, we've got five games in a row.

1337
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: Luis Gourmey gets to start for JD. Davis because he

1338
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: needs theay off. He also gets to start for McNeil.

1339
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: He also gets to start for Lindor because.

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00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: It also about who's who's pitching the game after a

1341
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 2: night game was playing, Yeah, one of them was playing

1342
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: good and center and not so good and center. Yeah.

1343
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: No. I mean, like the bench depth is just incredible,

1344
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: And like I always love to go back to the

1345
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen World Series team when you think about that team,

1346
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: the bench dep that we had that year, Guys like

1347
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: Kelly Johnson, Jan Yaribay, like those were really good bench

1348
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: bats or important to the success of the team that year.

1349
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: Like it's even Kirk Newton Heist, you got to mention

1350
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: him as as as streaky as he was. He had

1351
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: the three home run games Kirk Newin Heist can do overall,

1352
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: literally like almost the pinnacle of the sport.

1353
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: And three home runs in one game.

1354
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like, I love that we have all these

1355
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: guys that can slot in and while they're not as

1356
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: good as the guys that they'll be filling in for,

1357
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: they're like major league players.

1358
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: It's not that's a very important distinction, the fact that

1359
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: the Mets have major league players ready to step into

1360
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: any given moment. There's no more like Carlos Gomez, key

1361
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: On Broxton that you're going to rely on.

1362
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: Such a nice guy.

1363
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: But Mike, it's probably wonderful he still has a job too.

1364
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: He still plays a good defensive center field. But the

1365
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: fact that like Kevin Polar and Jonathan vr are sitting

1366
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: on the bench. Those are two guys who over the

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00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 2: last five years have put up some really really nice

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00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 2: seasons of starters.

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00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: Those are guys who start on a lot of major

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00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: league teams this year.

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00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, most well, it's only about ten major league teams

1372
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: to try, so that's an important distinction to make. But

1373
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: the fact that we can rely on meaningful bats from

1374
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 2: those two and are King Giorme as as reasonably moved

1375
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: through the season, get through the dog days, and there's

1376
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: a lot of science that shows more off days limit injury.

1377
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: And I don't want to see you and get injured.

1378
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: These are all I love all these guys so much,

1379
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: want anybody get hurt, Wrap them up, bubble.

1380
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I Thinkormy is the king of the bench. Of

1381
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: course he's gonna be. He's gonna be our guy every

1382
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: day and Lee Luis Gurmey will be on this podcast

1383
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: one day. That's a fact. Absolutely listeners heard it. We're

1384
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: getting Luis gi Ormay.

1385
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: At some point when I tweeted like a nice thing

1386
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: Aboutorme's like stats last year with a video, It's like

1387
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: when they didn't go viral, but I got a couple

1388
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: hundred likes and his dad liked it.

1389
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, Louismy s I like, I'll see him

1390
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: tweet out every once in a while. He's like, I

1391
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: see all the positive comments about my son at warm

1392
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: to my arm, Like, I fucking love this guy.

1393
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: Well a nice guy.

1394
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, let's get him on too, Let's get sample

1395
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: down the Giormes brother to.

1396
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: Bring him in.

1397
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: We lost the g unit because we got rid of him.

1398
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: It as but Giorme is still aroud, so I'll take it.

1399
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: I'll think if I'll call him g unit.

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00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, that was I mean a lot, a lot

1401
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: of positivity with the Mets opening days around the corner,

1402
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: super excited, super excited. Before we uh start wrapping things

1403
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: up here, let's talk about opening day. Let's talk about honestly,

1404
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: like just going to a Mets game home opener. What

1405
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: did they say you need to either have had a

1406
00:52:58,600 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: negative test within seventy.

1407
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 2: Two hours or proof of vaccine two shots?

1408
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so proof vaccine two shots or the J and

1409
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: J one shot. I think, I mean, like, what do

1410
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: we think that? What do you think the crowd's going

1411
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: to be like? Because I've been doing.

1412
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: A couple of games I think is raucous, raucus.

1413
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I will camp outside of City, MD,

1414
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: and I will get my test and I will be there.

1415
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: So I'm just excited to be back in the stadium, man.

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00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: Being I've been a spring training now for a little

1417
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: while and I've gone to a few games, and like

1418
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: just feeling the energy of a baseball park, even of

1419
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: a one quarter filled capacity basically glorified minor league stadium

1420
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere, Arizona. I was in Surprise,

1421
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: Arizona at a game last night. You don't know where

1422
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 2: there is? Look it up and laugh. It was forty

1423
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: five minutes from my RBB in Scottsdale, and it was

1424
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: worth every single moment just to sit down there with

1425
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: a beer and watch baseball. The sun setting over the

1426
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: nice southwest sky was lovely.

1427
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: I think the Mets too, like we I think we

1428
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: noticed it a little bit last year too, Like they

1429
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: do feed off the crowd energy. Not that that's an excuse,

1430
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: but like I think guys like Pete like really love

1431
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: the idea of like there's a crowd there, everybody's watching

1432
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: excited like some juice. Yeah, it gives us a little

1433
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: bit of juice, because there were games last year where

1434
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: they felt flat, and I think that's just because, like

1435
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: it is hard to get yourself excited when you're playing

1436
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: in front of nobody.

1437
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: Definitely, it's also probably heary, like strange.

1438
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like you're hearing the other dugout probably

1439
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: have a conversation, like I just don't really want to

1440
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: hear that.

1441
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that probas a lot of fights last year.

1442
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, or even like if an umpire makes a crap

1443
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: call like from the bench, now, like you can you

1444
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: could go back to saying ship and it's gonna be

1445
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: the rabbit ears no more. Tossing guys from the stands. No,

1446
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: we're tossing Assbourg tossed and their GM too, right, Riz,

1447
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean, like, so what you want about the Nationals.

1448
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: But that was a great moment, was really funny. What

1449
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna do at the end of every podcast episode

1450
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: is we're going to find a bad Mets take. I

1451
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna call this, you know, segment,

1452
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: We're just gonna do it. It doesn't have to be

1453
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 1: called anything. But I'm gonna let you take the control

1454
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: on this one here because this is this is a

1455
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: little tweet. You found something you wanted to talk about,

1456
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: So let's let's hear the bad Mets take.

1457
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: Basically, Mark and I just there's just the kind of

1458
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: we think there's just like this weird toxicity around figures

1459
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: of Mets media. People really benefit talking about the Mets

1460
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: on misery, and we want to change that, change that

1461
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: fold because we're happy about the Mets now. The Mets

1462
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: are good, the Mets are positive, We're we're bringing the vibes.

1463
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 2: We're bringing good vibes to the Mets. So we want

1464
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: to bring light to the lunacy of people who say

1465
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: things that are ridiculous on a regular basis, and one

1466
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: of my favorite of these people. Prominent menu member of

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00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: New York Sports Media's name is Brian Manzo. Still wf an,

1468
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: right is WFN?

1469
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, he's like a producer, isn't he

1470
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: or whatever?

1471
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Monz think yeah, he's one of the people.

1472
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: I love WFN. I've been listening to wf an regularly

1473
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: since i was seven years old, which is probably unhealthy.

1474
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: But past that, this winter, Monzo was very negative about

1475
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,959
Speaker 2: the Mets losing out on many of the top free agents.

1476
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 2: He was said about Real Muto, he was very upset

1477
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: about Springer and he was I don't think he was

1478
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: upset about Hour, but he was disappointed that we went

1479
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: head to ahead team like the Dodgers and lost. So

1480
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: when he was tweeting about how this was like one

1481
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: of the worst Mets off scenes he could remember, so disappointing,

1482
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: someone went back on Twitter and found his tweet from

1483
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen and it says, at this point, I would

1484
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: rather keep Dylan g than Noah Cindergarden, which you we

1485
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: don't want negativity like that in my life, especially now

1486
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: around my team.

1487
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Dylan G was like our guy at the time,

1488
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: he was doing some good stuff for us. But but

1489
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like even it's just it's like that's the

1490
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: kind of stuff that like we're trying to avoid. We're

1491
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: not trying to be hot take machines. We're not trying

1492
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: to be you know, the next great thing, trying to

1493
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: get all the clicks. That's what I do on my

1494
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. We're not doing it over here on the podcast.

1495
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: I'm not predicting the Mets to win the World Series.

1496
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: We're trying to keep it realistic but also still have

1497
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: that positive spin, because like, baseball's just more fun when

1498
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 1: you're happy. Why would we want to be Why would

1499
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: we want to go into a season which has the

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Speaker 1: potential to be one of the best that we've seen

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Speaker 1: in our lifetime and be negative. There's so many good

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Speaker 1: things to be positive about the Mets this year. That's

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Speaker 1: that's the vibes. That's what I want all season long. Positivity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, just positive vibes only bring it out.

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Speaker 2: I think of us kind of like two Metsias.

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Speaker 1: That was that was gonna be our podcast name. We

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Speaker 1: were thinking about the Metsias. But after some you know,

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Speaker 1: some testing about it.

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Speaker 2: Some focused group work.

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Speaker 1: It might be a little it might be a little cloudy,

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Speaker 1: but you.

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Speaker 2: Can get a little too much, a little too close,

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Speaker 2: a little too close to the sun. But just we

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Speaker 2: want to bring the good word of the Mets to everybody.

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Speaker 2: We want to be happy, cheerful. We will be upset.

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Speaker 2: There will be times and we're gonna be upset. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna be disgrentled. If we're like twenty four and twenty

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Speaker 2: two on by on May nineteenth, I'm gonna be very

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Speaker 2: very disappointed. Yeah, but like there needs to be this

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Speaker 2: good feeling around this team right now. We want to

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Speaker 2: help generate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think positive vibes, Like this team

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Speaker 1: is very positive. The guys on the teams are very positive.

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Speaker 1: And we got Stroman who like that's his whole thing

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Speaker 1: is just like keep it positive. I don't want this

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Speaker 1: negativity around me.

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Speaker 2: Almost almost a fault almost, But.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I would rather him be so much more. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, and be even slightly negative.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Mope, No, yeah, mope. We got rid of our mope,

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Speaker 1: so we're good. But uh yeah, I mean like you

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Speaker 1: see you later. Uh, It's just that's what we're trying

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Speaker 1: to do here on the podcast first episode, me and

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Speaker 1: James doing it out here mets Up. You can find

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube. It's all gonna be mets Up.

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Speaker 1: Just one word, no apostle, reason anything, m met as

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Speaker 1: d Up. We're gonna be uploading what do we say.

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Speaker 1: Our schedule is gonna be.

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Speaker 2: So we're probably gonna stick with one more before the season.

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Speaker 2: Maybe get some nitty gritty talk about like final roster

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Speaker 2: cuts we'd pick as the last couple of guys in

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Speaker 2: the team injured list, Maybe get deeper iNTS of what

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Speaker 2: we think about the rotation after the Crascow News today.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna try to do two a week during

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Speaker 2: the season. One's gonna come out Monday morning. On's gon

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Speaker 2: come out Friday morning. Get you guys on commute, Get

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Speaker 2: you guys as the Mets are gonna be starting up

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Speaker 2: new new weekend weekday series cover everything that goes on

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Speaker 2: with the team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're still learning this podcast thing here, so

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Speaker 1: if there's a little hiccups here and there, just you know,

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Speaker 1: bear with us. I'm a YouTuber, James writes a lot

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Speaker 1: and you know has an actual job as well. So

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Speaker 1: we're trying our best. We're gonna be committed to it

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Speaker 1: because I mean, this is literally our life. All we

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Speaker 1: do is OCCAP Mets baseball and talk about baseball, so

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Speaker 1: I thought this was a great way to do it.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys enjoyed. The first episode should be out

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Speaker 1: on iTunes and Spotify as well, as long as everything

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Speaker 1: with the upload process works and you know, follow us.

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Speaker 1: James has his personal Twitter.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, you either had no range, catch me by

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Speaker 2: writing on picture list great blog again. Yeah, take it

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Speaker 2: away baby.

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Speaker 1: And yeah giraffick mark. Hopefully you guys come back for

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Speaker 1: another episode. If not, screw you, and if you do,

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Speaker 1: thanks for watching, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: To see you next week.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna wrap it up for us. Messed up. We

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Speaker 1: out