WEBVTT - Qanon Grifter Bill Mitchell (A Crossover Episode)

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<v Speaker 1>What's anonymous my queueses. Robert Evans hosted Behind the Bastards,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast where we tell you everything you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about the worst people in all of history. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course today is a very special day. We are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Q and on one of the bastards behind

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<v Speaker 1>it uh and I'm I'm doing it with uh several

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<v Speaker 1>co hosts today the collective who hosts the Q and

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<v Speaker 1>on Anonymous podcast? You guys want to introduce yourselves. Travis View,

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<v Speaker 1>I am Jake Rocketanski and Julian Field is the third wheel.

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<v Speaker 1>I every car needs a third wheel, otherwise it would

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<v Speaker 1>be a bicycle. You can be our fourth baby doll,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will be defeat sticking through the floor. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be the flint stone feed Now, now that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going with a fun car analogy, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do something better. Come on now, Uh. We we we

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<v Speaker 1>have some weird similarities. Is that all of us are

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<v Speaker 1>people who started paying attention to different sections of eight

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<v Speaker 1>chan uh several years in the past for reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>are difficult to explain to anyone, including ourselves, and then

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<v Speaker 1>found our weird little obsession turned into meaningful news and

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly had to Field calls from the Washington Post and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh super weird, isn't it. We were doing the fun

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<v Speaker 1>Nazis and you were doing the real Nazis. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing like the goofiest Knatzi used who believed

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<v Speaker 1>in like you know, underground tunnels and ye know, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh coming military trimbunals. It was fantastical and the body

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<v Speaker 1>count was relatively low, so that that that makes our

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<v Speaker 1>work I think a little bit more entertaining. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>imagine like a war where the only guy who died

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<v Speaker 1>was a mob boss. Yeah, pretty pretty good. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in case some listeners don't know, both the the neo

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<v Speaker 1>Nazis on h Chan who were responsible for all those

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<v Speaker 1>mass shootings and the people who are kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>driving the Q and on movement are are We're located

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<v Speaker 1>on eight Chan at different sections. There was the Q

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<v Speaker 1>research board, which is obvious what that was, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's the poll board, which is where all the Nazis were.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a bit across pollination, but as not as

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<v Speaker 1>much as some people think. I know it was. It's like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like those old Gary Larson cartoons, um, where they

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<v Speaker 1>would show you know, it would be like the skydiving

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<v Speaker 1>school and then like the crocodile farm right next to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for for the for the real Nazis. They looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the Q and On board and they're like, nah, that

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like vulcans occultism, dude, we left that behind. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny. On the on the Q research board, on

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<v Speaker 1>every single thread, someone posted of some like really heavily

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<v Speaker 1>anti Semitic ship about like the Jewish question um and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and they actually wound up blaming me. They thought that

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<v Speaker 1>I was sort of seeding this information to try to

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<v Speaker 1>make them look the more anti Semitic they actually are.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not denied it. That's become common theme. They

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<v Speaker 1>also thought that we brought um, that we brought plants

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<v Speaker 1>to the Q and On rally a couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago to make them, to make them look stupider and

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<v Speaker 1>and than they already are. My favorite is Jocas Aben

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lines Led by Donkeys podcast. He responded to

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<v Speaker 1>our tweet where where it was like me pictured with

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<v Speaker 1>all these Q and On influencers, and he was like

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<v Speaker 1>did they know that? Like you were the host of

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<v Speaker 1>qu on anonymous and then one of the influencers answered

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<v Speaker 1>did they care? But it was too late he had replied,

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<v Speaker 1>so he clearly showed that he cared. So sad and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, clearly they did, and no answer to that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's adorable. Well, today we're here to talk about somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who is not adorable. Uh, we're here to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Mitchell. Um who is uh I don't know, iluminary

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the Q movement. That's not the right

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<v Speaker 1>term to use at all for Bill Mitchell. Nothing should

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<v Speaker 1>describe him as aluminary. How would you describe Bill Mitchell?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's luminous. If you look at him, everything

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<v Speaker 1>is just like a pale light. It just fucking blows

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<v Speaker 1>out your eyes. He's the white Wizard of Maga. I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I once uh, I think I once described him as

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<v Speaker 1>looking like a child who has a secret. Totally. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill is an interesting piece of ship and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have fun talking about him today. Um So, Billiam Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 1>I've decided that's his real first name because I can't

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<v Speaker 1>find like a middle name or anything for him, So

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna go with Billiam was born in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one or thereabouts, somewhere in Germany. His father was

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<v Speaker 1>an army colonel, his mother was a college professor. Now

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, Bill has claimed that his dad wound up

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<v Speaker 1>working for the Joint Chiefs in the Pentagon at one

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<v Speaker 1>point and served in Koba in Vietnam. It's possible this

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<v Speaker 1>is true. It's also possible it's a lie because Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell lies constantly. There's really no way to know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as a general rule, I like to have as much

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<v Speaker 1>info as I can about these people's early lives, and unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>in Bill's case, there's not a lot of information to

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<v Speaker 1>go on. There aren't any super detailed profiles that delve

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<v Speaker 1>into his early life and background, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>seems like he doesn't want to go into much detail

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<v Speaker 1>about it, which is understandable. Uh. He graduated from the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Maryland in nineteen eighty two with a degree

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<v Speaker 1>in accounting and finance and was apparently a big theater buff,

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<v Speaker 1>which you can really see in his videos. Clearly a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who likes putting on a show. Jesus start superstar

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy. Yeah. Yeah, if you haven't looked at this, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you owe it to yourself. He has like the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>executive hair, um like like this, this white bowl on

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<v Speaker 1>his head, very distinguished looking. And he has a chin

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<v Speaker 1>like Jean Claude van Damme if he didn't exercise. Is

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<v Speaker 1>how I would describe his chin. Uh, chiseled and flabby

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, which is very difficult to pull off.

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<v Speaker 1>He border character. I was gonna say, he looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a like a character you might create and like g

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<v Speaker 1>t a online like he looks like he looks like

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<v Speaker 1>if you played Fallout, the robot president who would like

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<v Speaker 1>speak over the radio. If that guy was a person,

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<v Speaker 1>he would look like Bill Mitchell. Yeah now Bill, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, lifelong Republican. In the nineteen nineties, he

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love with Ross Perot as a businessman, he

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<v Speaker 1>himself he liked the idea of having the country run

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<v Speaker 1>by businessman and uh, I think that that's a thing

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<v Speaker 1>only businessman thing. I don't think members of other professions

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<v Speaker 1>tend to think one of us should run the entire country. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're accustomed to uh telling other people what

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<v Speaker 1>to do, if you're like a CEO, then this, like

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<v Speaker 1>the president, is just another variation of that. I guess, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And clearly corporations and countries have the same goal. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>maximizing shareholder value. Yeah now um. For the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>politics played a fairly minor role in Bill's life, and

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<v Speaker 1>he focused instead on his career running an executive recruitment

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<v Speaker 1>firm he founded. Has no wife or children. He threw

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<v Speaker 1>everything into his work back when it's still existed. His

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<v Speaker 1>company website executive decision dot biz You've gotta be kidding me.

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<v Speaker 1>Dot com not available? No, No, he could get dot

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<v Speaker 1>biz baby dot z Yeah, the classiest domain. Um. He

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<v Speaker 1>bragged that his bold, proactive style quote empowers clients to

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<v Speaker 1>acquire the finest staff on target, on time, every time.

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<v Speaker 1>In a BuzzFeed profile in two thousand sixteen, Charlie Warzel

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<v Speaker 1>noted quote his Yahoo answers profile, stretching back more than

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<v Speaker 1>a decade, paints a fuller picture across hundreds of questions

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<v Speaker 1>and answers. Mitchell reveals a successful recovery from colon cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>a frequent desired for feedback on whether or not to

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<v Speaker 1>color his graying hair, and endless mundane curiosities ranging from

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<v Speaker 1>the silly why do Jack Russell owners all look like

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<v Speaker 1>they want to kill themselves? Would a bumble bee? The

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<v Speaker 1>size of a man be able to fly to the

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<v Speaker 1>more existential. What is intuition and how often is it correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not pick create a condom that covers just the

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<v Speaker 1>top bench of your penis he and uh, he and

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Whittaker should get together and team up. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that the guy has never tried just not pulling it

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<v Speaker 1>all the way down, just like you can test that

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<v Speaker 1>out yourself. Bill. I. I love that you say that

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<v Speaker 1>because it means that you and Bill had the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same thought at some point, but you translated into action.

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<v Speaker 1>That is slander, sir. I like to pull my condom

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<v Speaker 1>all around my balls. Wait this, Uh, these Yahoo answers

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<v Speaker 1>are like a treasure troue because I remember when when

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<v Speaker 1>we I tried to do some dig up some research

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<v Speaker 1>on Mitchell and the same thing. It was really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to find. But like hearing these answers, it's like looking

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<v Speaker 1>at it's like okay Cupid profile or something like. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel you could get to know the man. Yeah, Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Warzel is a good journalist and did a good job

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<v Speaker 1>of digging into this guy. So in the midas, Bill

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Charlotte, North Carolina. Charlotte, I said it Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very wrong. I don't know why Charlotte, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>He was there in two fifteen when Donald Trump, famous

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<v Speaker 1>rapist slash casino owner, wrote down the elevator of his

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<v Speaker 1>skyscraper to announce the start of a presidential campaign. Watching

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<v Speaker 1>at home, Bill Mitchell saw an opportunity. He had no

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<v Speaker 1>history and entertainment at this point, or political journalism. His

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<v Speaker 1>social media presence was minimal. He had less than a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred followers. But Bill was inspired by Donald Trump, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had something that no real journalist or pundit could

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<v Speaker 1>possibly have, a bone deep, perfect, almost religious certainty that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was going to win the election. So chilling

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<v Speaker 1>to see. It's chilling to see the parallels with Jake. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he has a platform and before two thousand sixteen nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>My hair is going gray. Yeah, yeah, it's Uh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us who are in vaguely similar boats

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<v Speaker 1>to Bill Um just because we live in a hell

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<v Speaker 1>age where where all expertise has collapsed in on itself.

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<v Speaker 1>And so anybody who's good at tweeting, Uh, you can.

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<v Speaker 1>You can write Washington Post articles under a fake name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole new world. We are the news now

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<v Speaker 1>say yes, yes, and it's uh, nothing but positives to

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<v Speaker 1>that being the case. So Bill started tweeting, because what

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<v Speaker 1>else are you gonna do? You're certain of something that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody else believes. He tweeted his herd and as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as anyone has ever tweeted before. Over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the election, he posted an average of two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy times per day. How did you pull up these metrics,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Warzel did, like put that together? I guess, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that's so many tweets like I'm I I spent

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<v Speaker 1>too We all spend too much time on Twitter. That

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<v Speaker 1>is way too much. Five minutes, but that's if you

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<v Speaker 1>did over twenty four hours. You gotta sleep right well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how does he keep his figure? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that he would look like like the

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<v Speaker 1>fat people strapped to the floating chairs and Wally, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just glued to his phone going like mag I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he eats. I think he subsists entirely on

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<v Speaker 1>the energy he gets from hot takes, hot takes in cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So some of his best takes, collected by Mr Warzl,

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<v Speaker 1>are as follows. You notice how close. Trump stands to

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<v Speaker 1>this black man as he listens to him. No racist

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<v Speaker 1>whatever to that. If you think about it, Hillary putting

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<v Speaker 1>women into baskets maybe one of the most sexist things

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<v Speaker 1>ever set in a political campaign. Trump's ground game isn't

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<v Speaker 1>in a computer, It's in our hearts. Imagine poles don't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Show me evidence Hillary is winning. Jesus was perfect in

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<v Speaker 1>the media of his day. Had him crucified. Paco's pilot

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<v Speaker 1>was Rupert Murdoch. Yeah, ponscious pilot was the Fox New World.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess CNN of King Herod was actually um Jake Tapper. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now that's not even a conspiracy. Jake Tapper is eternal,

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<v Speaker 1>like we've all that is true. Yes, that's true. And

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Chris Cuomo is is closing in slowly. He will

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<v Speaker 1>be eternal soon. Yeah, the the entire history of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the Dark Tower series, but instead of those

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<v Speaker 1>the characters Stephen King came up with, it's just Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Tapper and uh fucking Haraldo Rivera like battling throughout time

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<v Speaker 1>to God's muscles, rippling falling through clouds. Well you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you trace back Messopotamia. Then Jesus probably looked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more like Haraldo Rivera than he did. Oddly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus was also hit in the face with a chair

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<v Speaker 1>during an episode of his talk a chair he built.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bill Mitchell started a podcast, Your Voice Radio, where

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<v Speaker 1>he expanded upon his political theories and talked to other

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<v Speaker 1>Trump world luminaries like Jack Piso Bik. In his interview

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<v Speaker 1>with BuzzFeed, Bill described Your Voice as a number one

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<v Speaker 1>political talk show, even though it only racked up a

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<v Speaker 1>few thousand downloads per episode. I can't say precisely how

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<v Speaker 1>popular it is now. But Spreaker, which is a podcasting platform,

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<v Speaker 1>says the whole series has about five eighty one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>total streams, which isn't bad, but is nowhere near number one. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>not even particularly close. We have double that on soundclod. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get about that much in a week. Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're not a number one podcast. Like see boys, I

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<v Speaker 1>told you it was going to be a good collaboration. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Mitchell's listening and he's like, oh, I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty good. But there's only about three hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people in the world. Bill social media presence quickly grew

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<v Speaker 1>from the hundreds to the thousands and then to the

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<v Speaker 1>tens of thousands. Uh. And like I think by the

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<v Speaker 1>time that BuzzFeed article was done, like kind of near

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the election, he had about ninety thousand

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter followers. Now, Bill's Twitter work was way more popular

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<v Speaker 1>than his number one political talk show. In fact, he

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<v Speaker 1>grew to become one of the single most influential people

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<v Speaker 1>in the two thousand sixteen election. And I hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm serious about that. Uh. The M I T Media

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<v Speaker 1>Lab like crunched a bunch of numbers on it and

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<v Speaker 1>found him to be the twenty six most influential person

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter of the entire election, accusing this by pedophiles incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the highest ranked non politician or a journalist. To

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<v Speaker 1>give you some idea of how good Bill was it Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>he wound up one place below Mitt Romney, one place

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<v Speaker 1>above the official GOP Twitter account, two places above Megan Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>three above the Drudge Report, four above Paul Ryan, and

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<v Speaker 1>five above former President George W. Bush. So you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>give he's good at Twitter. Even though I owe my

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<v Speaker 1>being able to do this podcast to Twitter, I because

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff like that. I would not object to just

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<v Speaker 1>burning Twitter to the ground. Yeah, yes, yes, does Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell even know these stats about himself? I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is I feel like he would be. Of course, Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell wakes up every morning touching himself to these. So

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<v Speaker 1>he credits his success at Twitter with his skill at

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<v Speaker 1>using language. Quote, I've always been clever with words as

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<v Speaker 1>a recruiter. I make my living as a communicator. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good with word images and painting pictures with a short

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<v Speaker 1>phrase here and there that people can relate to. When

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<v Speaker 1>asked how much time he spends making his tweets, he

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<v Speaker 1>dis missed the idea that there's you know, any planning

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<v Speaker 1>mind them. I'm just firing the thoughts out as I

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<v Speaker 1>come to them. I have an interesting take, you see.

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<v Speaker 1>I delve into the internals and really tell people what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, and it's given me some fame. Now. As

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<v Speaker 1>ab served as Bill seems to most people, he clearly

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<v Speaker 1>has a gift for communicating with a very specific segment

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<v Speaker 1>of the American populace. But the last month of the election,

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<v Speaker 1>he averaged forty retweets and ten million Twitter impressions per day.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy sh it. Yeah, that's terrified, and it's really evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that the key is to just never stop posting, um,

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<v Speaker 1>never stopped posting, and never always pander, pander and post Right.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually spends all day just opening um Chinese fortune

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<v Speaker 1>cookies and just tweeting that out. Yeah yeah, that it's

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually really close to what he is. Um. He

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<v Speaker 1>also credited his success to the fact that he speaks

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<v Speaker 1>for a chunk of the American populace that even the

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<v Speaker 1>conservative media never let to speak. Quote. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>people who call into rush Limbaugh and who hold on

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<v Speaker 1>the line and never get on air. My tweets cut

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<v Speaker 1>on because I was saying out loud and using my

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<v Speaker 1>talent for words to say what they wanted. Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>speak for the people that Rush Limbaughs, Like y'all are

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<v Speaker 1>fucking nuts. Yes, the tweets you pull up while you're

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for a fucking opioid addicts to answer the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy. So while most of Bill's followers seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be committed Trump fans who appreciated his takes, a sizeable

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<v Speaker 1>number of them were liberal hate watchers, gleefully watching bills

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly unhinged predictions and laughing at him. They took particular

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<v Speaker 1>joy and mocking his attitude towards Poles do you see

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see what you did, Travis, Do you see

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<v Speaker 1>what you've done to this country? Very funny looking at

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<v Speaker 1>these guys and now they're president. Very funny, these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys who have no influence on my life until

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<v Speaker 1>until they do, until they run the country. This tweet

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty emblematic of the kinds of things he was

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<v Speaker 1>saying in the months leading up to the election. This

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<v Speaker 1>is from August two thousand sixteen. A poll is a hypothesis.

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<v Speaker 1>Rallies and social media presence are empirical evidence. A hypothesis

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<v Speaker 1>unsupported by empirical evidence is wrong. Yeah, oh yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>you bring up Nate Silver. Absolutely beautiful. Just the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the data guy, data boy, the data man. Now. Nate

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<v Speaker 1>Silver responded to this tweet with a tweet set to

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<v Speaker 1>the tune of John Lennon's imagine imagine there's no polls.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easy if you try. No puwre quinnipac on crowd

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<v Speaker 1>size we rely, which is not not a bad joke,

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<v Speaker 1>but he ironically right, like I would love it if

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<v Speaker 1>they fucking eliminated the polls and actually looked at the

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<v Speaker 1>groundswell of people. Yeah, yeah, Bill was actually way more

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<v Speaker 1>in the right than the Nate on this one, which

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<v Speaker 1>is weird. Um Like, even as a guy who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like Nate Silver, it's very unfortunate. Um. And in fact

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<v Speaker 1>Bill kind of developed a reputation for being the right

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<v Speaker 1>wings Nate Silver equivalent. While Nate was wonky, evidence focused

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<v Speaker 1>and data driven, Bill Mitchell ran on pure gut instinct.

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<v Speaker 1>The divide between the two men's methodologies embodied the divide

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<v Speaker 1>between conservative and liberal in America. For his part, Bill

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<v Speaker 1>attacked the polls for being fundamentally flawed and complained that

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't really represent voters in the election. Since so

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<v Speaker 1>many of Trump's voters had been a political before two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand sixteen, they weren't the sort of folks posters talked to.

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<v Speaker 1>He argued that crowd size was a better predictor. Quote

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<v Speaker 1>if you arrived here from Mars today and you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>speak English, but you saw Trump every single day of

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<v Speaker 1>the week at these rallies. He's dominating online, he's dominating

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<v Speaker 1>yard signs and rallies and all the physical things we

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<v Speaker 1>can see. You'd think this guy is winning. If it

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<v Speaker 1>were up to me, i'd make polling illegal. This is

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<v Speaker 1>just my dream world. Yeah, He's like, polling doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>We should make it illegal. Yeah, band poles um And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fucking Martian that like came to like discovered

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<v Speaker 1>a new fucking planet. And the first thing I do

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<v Speaker 1>is like wander into a Maga rally. He actually does

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<v Speaker 1>look like a Martian wearing a skin suit. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>if if a Martian wandered into a Maga rally, oh boy, here,

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<v Speaker 1>get about it. Here, he's a literal alien. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>literal illegal alien. Oh boy. Now. Bill's level of connection

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<v Speaker 1>to the Trump campaign was heavily debated. For his part,

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<v Speaker 1>he claimed to be in regular contact with the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>brothers and several other workers on the campaign. Digging done

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<v Speaker 1>by Buzzfeeds Charlie Warzell indicated that this was not the case,

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<v Speaker 1>and instead suggested that most of the people close to

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<v Speaker 1>Trump found him fundamentally irritating. Quote. He thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in charge of a Trump group in

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina months ago, and when he got there he

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<v Speaker 1>found out he wasn't in left deciding not to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of source said. Mitchell plays this down, alleging

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<v Speaker 1>that he volunteered to run so social media for the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign in North Carolina, but quit after a few weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>deciding his personal account was more helpful to the campaign. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>one source believes there's tension between Mitchell and the campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>explaining that earlier this year, Trump advisor and social media

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<v Speaker 1>director Dan Scovino unfollowed Mitchell after an incessant series of

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter direct messages filled with pointers about how wrong they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing social media. Um yeah, yeah, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say that Bill is wrong there. Uh, he might

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<v Speaker 1>be better than so at social media than anyone Trump

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<v Speaker 1>actually paid to do the job. Uh, but that's how

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<v Speaker 1>politics works. I mean, Bill Mitchell is is is a

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<v Speaker 1>never ending tweet storm. It's like if yees, if fucking

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<v Speaker 1>Seth Abramson never took a breath, that would be just

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<v Speaker 1>gave me the fear. Now. In that BuzzFeed article, Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>declared Bill to be the post truth, postmath anti Nate Silver.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not an unfriendly depiction, but the clear implication

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<v Speaker 1>was that he was a bit of a nut and

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<v Speaker 1>November two thousand sixteen was going to prove all of

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<v Speaker 1>his silly predictions wrong. And as we all know, that

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<v Speaker 1>did not happen. But Thursday after the election, Bill texted

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie and asked, Hi, Charlie, will BuzzFeed be doing a

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<v Speaker 1>post truth follow up article on me? Smiley face now.

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<v Speaker 1>To his credit, Charlie Warstle fessed up to being owned

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hard by Bill Mitchell. He did, in fact write

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<v Speaker 1>a follow up article which revealed that Bill had spent

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<v Speaker 1>election night alone in his home studio interacting with his

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter followers, who by that point numbered nearly a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty thousand. So because of his kind of relentless

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<v Speaker 1>uh predictioning I don't know what you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill was treated as sort of an oracle. In the

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<v Speaker 1>immediate wake of Trump's upset election victory, he took the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to try to rebrand himself as a political pundit.

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<v Speaker 1>He told Charlie Warzl that he thought Jared Kushner would

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<v Speaker 1>hire him to work at Trump TV, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>thing he thought would exist very soon. Bill raised ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars for his YouTube show and got his radio

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<v Speaker 1>show syndicated on Cleveland a M Radio. Since his first

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<v Speaker 1>set of predictions had worked so well, he started making many,

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<v Speaker 1>many more like this one. I think the Wall will

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<v Speaker 1>become the next great American monument. Like the Statue of

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<v Speaker 1>Liberty Wall is a monument to our sovereignty. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say if I were on his marketing team. That's amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's like the Great Wall of China if you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't walk on it. Yeah, yeah, if it had like

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<v Speaker 1>no aesthetic value and also wasn't an impressive technical creation. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>now you know it is an impressive technical creation. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>what the products and services that that support this podcast? Uh? Pat,

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<v Speaker 1>you fucking waited for us to say what this is incredible?

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<v Speaker 1>And and and notice that Julian and Travis said nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>and me, the fucking like the village idiot, was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>well tell me more. Yeah, this is how we fucking

0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 1>sell some goddamn dick pills. So congratulations, y'all are now

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<v Speaker 1>part of the erection industrial complex. I hope you're proud.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just glad this week it's dick pills products. We're back. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still talking about Bill Mitch uh be Mitch old Bill.

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I can't come up with a good nickname for Michell

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell Bitchell. Damn it. How did that not occur to me?

0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel very ashamed of this fact. So a few

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<v Speaker 1>months after the election, Bill showed up at Spack and

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing and declared him the happiest man at the convention,

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<v Speaker 1>which was probably a true. I'm gonna quote from their

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<v Speaker 1>article on him. I'm kind of a national figure now,

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell said in an interview over Breakfast. Mitchell said he

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<v Speaker 1>took a big pay cut to launch his radio show

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>about six months ago. He's now in talks with a

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<v Speaker 1>number of investor groups about syndicating the program Your Voice Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>which currently streams on YouTube. To me, I'm fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>years old, Mitchell said, this is a wonderful opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>self actualize, to do something that really matters to him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fifty six to u. But unfortunately for Bill and

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<v Speaker 1>many other right wing grifters who hoped the Trump years

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>would bring them tremendous wealth and power, he proved to

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<v Speaker 1>be somewhat less adept once he moved on from simply

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleading a Trump victory and tried to build a brand

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<v Speaker 1>as a right wing thought leader. His first terrible mistake

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<v Speaker 1>in January of two thousand seventeen was attacking Pepe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys know? Bill went to war with Pepe? Briefly?

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 1>I did not know, yeah, he really gave away his

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of like his boomer tendency is there. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when you give our topics to a real journalist.

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 1>He plays to us. So he tweeted on January second,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm really sick of this damn green frog.

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<v Speaker 1>Who the hell thought it was a good mascot? Uh? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>The war on the mouse and Chuck e cheese Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill um. Now, like anyone who attacks the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>things that are popular with Channers, Bill was delused in

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a flood of hateful comments. Janners started making fake Bill

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell tweets which portrayed him as a Hall of Cost denier,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's like the only the only thing in their

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<v Speaker 1>bag is like, well, let's make him into a Holocaust denier,

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you know now, Rather than you know, analyze the movement

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>he'd become a part of and acknowledged that it had

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 1>a hateful side, Bill took a different tactic. He decided

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to brilliam Holocaust survivor George Soros for the fake accounts.

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm being attacked by thousands of accounts that didn't even

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>exist during the election, Almost no followers astroturfed Soros bs incredible. Yeah.

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>In another tweet, he called them soro spots. Um so, yeah,

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>very so. He decided to like counter accusations of being

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>extremely santi Semitic by being more dog whistley anti semitic.

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, he sure did. Yeah, he sure did, which

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 1>is a bold move. Um. Yeah. You gotta respect the

0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 1>the ability to zig and zag. Yeah. And you can

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 1>see those the non tendencies starting to bubble to the surface.

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And he he gets closer and closer to

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that as the years go on. As the last three

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>years have played out, he's increasingly, uh, sort of sold

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 1>himself to the most extreme chunks of the American right wing.

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>In late two thousands seventeen, he started tweeting about Q

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and On Now. Bill has always seemed less enthralled with

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the specifics of the Q and On conspiracy or the

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>individual Q drops than he was with the cults recklessly

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>pro Trump version of reality. On one episode of his

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>radio show, he said this, what Q was trying to

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>do is motivate and encourage the base by what is

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>their hashtag? Trust the plan? What's the alternative to that question?

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 1>In doubt everything Donald Trump does. Constantly attack Donald Trump

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>from all these different sides. Every time he makes a

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 1>move that you and your linear small mind don't understand

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that he and his strategic mind is setting up the

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>board for a win. But you don't get it. He

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>sacrifices his night because he's planning on checkmating your king

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>in five moves. But all of a sudden you go

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>out there and you're freaking out and pulling an end

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 1>culture on him. Is that what we should be doing?

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>What would make it better? Would that be a better world?

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Would that make us more mega? What do you want?

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 1>What do you want? They're like, Oh, you're lowering us

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>into a false sense of security by giving you confidence

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>in Trump that Trump has got a plan to know

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>what the hell he's doing in all this? How does

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>that low anyone into a false sense of confidence? That

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard in

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:18.959
<v Speaker 1>the world. I can't he's successful because I can't remember

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>the first sentence. Well, basically, I think, I mean, correct

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong. But basically, instead of when somebody

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 1>says trust the plan, instead of being like, well, what

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>what's the plan, he's like, well, he's like, what I mean,

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 1>what else are you gonna do? Not trust in not

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>trust the unknown plan, Like, what do you think? He's

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>just a senile boomer tweeting and random and yelling at people.

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna what are you gonna think? What do

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you think there's not some sort of preordained celestial influence

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>that's guiding all of this? Uh jeez, yeah, it's um,

0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>it's quite something to watch now. In other tweets, Bill

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 1>has described the Q and On movement as harmless fun

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and having o downside, and it's worth noting that both

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of those tweets were made after several separate Q and

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>On believers committed murders or other attacks in ques name.

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Just this, just this. Last August, Bill tweeted, if Q

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and on is wrong, it's harmless fun. If Q and

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>on is right, the deep state is screwed. I like

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>those odds. To be fair to Mitchell, he only checks

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the news when he's not tweeting, so he hasn't read

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>the news in like ten years. I also like that

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>he like it's just more evidence he has no idea

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>what odds are, like, like fundamentally doesn't understand what the

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>word means. That makes it more powerful though ironically, Yeah, yeah,

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>it's he's like Han Solo. Yeah, he's so dedicating being

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the anti anti Nate Silver. He doesn't even understand how

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>numbers work. When I you know, if he really is

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the anti Nate Silver. One of my goals for the

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>next year because I expect albeit at an event we're

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>both Bill Mitchell and Nate Silver are present, I want

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to try and mash them together. I think if they

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>make physical contact, they might explode and destroy us. All

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>let's save the greater universe. Yeah, that's my goal. Or

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>create free energy for all of us, or create free energy. Yeah,

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>that might be the solution to global warming. Is just

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>like tie Nate Silver and Bill Mitchell together and stick

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>them in some sort of crude reactor. Yeah, they're like,

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>it's it's like you know what positive and negative battery

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>that you just if you glue them together and sort

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of yeah, stuff them under some sort of fission reactor. Yeah,

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that this is the key to to like free energy. Yeah,

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Nate Silver and Bill Mitchell mashed together like fucking Reese's

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Pieces sixty nine. Baby. Now, someone with a charitable opinion

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>towards Bill might be inclined to suggest that he didn't

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>believe all the media hype about the q movements increasingly

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>violent rhetoric, but Bill's own rhetoric has grown increasingly violent

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>in the years since Trump's election. This past May, on

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>an episode of Your Voice America, he stated that Democrats

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>really have become the party of Satan. He asked his

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>followers to pray for their president to have the wisdom

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.479
<v Speaker 1>of God as he fights against the dem on might

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of the Democratic Party. At this point, we are fighting

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>against evil. He went on to add, this feels like

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the last day. Sometimes it's because he's just alone in

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>his basement with his run out of food. Yeah, it's

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>it's remarkable. I I love the idea that the Democrats

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>are the party of the devil because it gives them

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>so much power than they actually have, as opposed to

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>being like the party that roughly forty people in the

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>United States are passionate about and the rest are just like, well,

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>they're not literal Nazis, so I guess this is the best.

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's it's it's if only I wish Nancy

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Pelosi would embrace Baha met like on an altar in

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>front of the Senate Like that would be such such

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>a great day. I'm here for that. Yeah, alas she

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>starts sacrificing chickens. Now, I'm going to quote from a

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>right wing Watch article on Bill Now quote Mitchell said

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he has repeatedly called Democrats the party

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>of Satan on Twitter, and no Democrats have replied to

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>dispute the claim as evidence that he is right. Never once.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>He said. It's like in their contract, they're not allowed

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:17.239
<v Speaker 1>to deny it. I don't know, it's weird. Yeah, they

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>sacrificed children. You know, people people with a contract with

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Satan can't lie about their other contract with Satan. Well. No,

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Satan is commonly known as the Prince of Truth. That's

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>what everybody calls him. Yeah, it's like with cops. If

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you ask them, are you a cop? They have to say,

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and they have to tell you if they worship Satan. Yeah, exactly,

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>both of those things are true about cops. So uh.

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Less than a week before I wrote this article, in

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<v Speaker 1>September of two thousand nineteen, Bill Mitchell started trying to

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>sell Trump branded bullets to his four Twitter phone. He

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>retweeted a link to the Republican Legions store selling Punisher

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Trump branded nine millimeter hollow points. He wrote, retweet if

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you believe in the Second Amendment and the right to

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>bear arms. Right above a picture of the box, which

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>of course features a punish your skull with Donald Trump's

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>wig atop it. It's Donald Trump has ever fired a

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>gun in his life? I kind of doubt it. I

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>think he would be frightened and confused. Like, yeah, that's like,

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>that's like a picture of Louis Farrick, Louis Farrick Caannon

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and just being like, retweet if you think black people

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>should be equal. Yeah, it's amazing. Um, the actual like

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 1>tweet itself. Like in the link to the store, you

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>can see, like the first few words available in the

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>store's website are, if you want to ensure your Second

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Amendment rights remain intact, you're gonna need some ammunition, which

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>is not at all a call for violence. Boy, Now,

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>this was a clear violation of Twitter's terms of service,

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>since you aren't allowed to sell firearms and ammo via

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the site. But more to the point, it seems to

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>be a pretty fucking clear call on Bill's part towards

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>violence against the president's enemies. That Republican Legion websites selling

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the Bullet States America is on the verge of another

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>civil war and warns that conservatives are facing economic terrorism

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>from the left. Now that website Republican Legion is registered

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to a guy named Richard Granville. Y'all, y'all know who

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Richard Granville is. Yes, he is the CEO of Yippie

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>dot Com. He sure is. It's also Bill Mitchell's boss. Now.

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.959
<v Speaker 1>Um See, while that sweet deal working for Jared Kushner

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>never quite worked out, Bill was hired by Granville's company, Yippie,

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>which bills itself is essentially a conservative alternative to Google. Um,

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and this gig that Bill has now is evidence that

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell has fully embraced the tactic of shamelessly grifting his

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>audience for as much cash as he can convince them

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to fork over those stupid Trump branded bullets, for instance,

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>cost for fifty rounds of nine millimeter, which is two

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to three times as expensive as comparative like high end ammunition,

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>and like five times as expensive as like just normal

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>rounds of nine millimeter like I get him for like

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>eight or nine bucks for a box of fifty for

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>target rounds like ridiculously overpriced just ice cube. Leaning in, well,

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>it appears this man just wanted to make America great again.

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah so uh in selling Donald Trump bullets is actually

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the least grifty things Mitchell has gotten involved

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 1>with over the last year. In May of two thousand nineteen,

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>he started to go fund me, saying he wanted to

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>move his online show to Washington, d C, so he

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>could talk with movers and shakers of the conservative movement

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis. This is his best thing he's

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>ever done. I love this so much. It's it's kind

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of brilliant. The money was billed as covering moving costs

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and helping him set up a high end studio in

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 1>d C. On May six, he tweeted, this, one great

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>thing about living in d C will be that all

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>my political friends from around the country all eventually go there,

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>so I get to see everyone. Smiley face. Now, Bill

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.399
<v Speaker 1>came very close to his fifteen thousand dollar fundraising goal.

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>He made fourteen thousand, two hundred and eighty dollars, and

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>then rather than moving to d C, he moved to

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Miami instead. Fucking, king, king, king legend. That's an incredible grift. Yeah, Well,

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, those seven hundred extra dollars would have

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>made the difference. M Yeah, everyone knows it takes fifteen

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:28.800
<v Speaker 1>grand exactly to move to Washington, d C. Yeah, and

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>any anything less you you're trying to get to d C,

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>but you somehow just end up in Florida. It's like

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>the prices, It's like the price is right if you

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>overshoot him back too, you know, yeah, yeah, overshoot you

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>end up in New York, like yeah, yeah, So Bill

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>winds up in Miami and many of Bill's friends other

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:49.240
<v Speaker 1>conservative pundits attacked him for this. The right wing internet

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 1>descended on Bill Mitchell to accuse him of grifting his fans.

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>For his part, Bill expressed no contrition. I think he

0:35:55.560 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>never explicitly. He's totally shaved about this. Like again, he's

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 1>he's as consistent about not giving a funk that he

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>grifted his fans as he was about claiming Trump was

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>going to win the election. So at least, like he

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>goes whole hog on all this ship. And he's a

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>fucking business guy. Like you think you think he could

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>just not take the fifteen k, like it just destroys

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>his reputation for fifteen k, Like you think he has

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>a bit more disposable cometan he could just return that

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 1>money and be like, sorry, guys, I'm going to Florida. Julian.

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>He sat there in front of his computer watching that

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>little green bar just freeze at, you know, just sweat,

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and he just watching watching ethereum crash. He's like, fuck me,

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to keep these fifteen Huh. Miami's looking

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, boys. Yeah. Well, to be fair, he he

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>fucking went to Washington, d C. To like try to

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>find a home. He tried the coke and he was like,

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:53.399
<v Speaker 1>fuck this, boys, I'm going to Miami. Ye yeah, yeah,

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that's actually really close to what Bill claims. So he

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>claimed he never explicitly said on the go fund me

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>that this was for a move to d C, even

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>though he tweeted constantly about that being the reason for

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the go fund me, and so since she hadn't written

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.439
<v Speaker 1>that into the go fund me itself, it was fine

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>for him to use the money for whatever the funk

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>he wanted. When other conservatives dragged him on Twitter, he

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>justified his decision by pointing out that Miami has better

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>weather than d C. DC gets maybe four nice months

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:29.879
<v Speaker 1>a year, Miami gets ten, for sake. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>mem You're completely correct, yeah, you kind of have to

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>love that. Um, I don't know that just like shameless

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>level stealing from your fans. Yeah, just just total contempt

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>for the people who support you. I mean, I mean they,

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like all the sort of like the grifters

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.919
<v Speaker 1>have it, but to this level where you just take

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 1>money for one thing and just not do it all

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and just say fuck you and just walk away with

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the cash and you still like a public figure. Yeah,

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:01.240
<v Speaker 1>he's a king. Absolutely, it's an an Actually, I'm not kidding.

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>It makes me happy to think of this, Like, I

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 1>fucking love him for this. I think he's a positive

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>force on the in the universe. More people on the

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>right should take k to destroy their own reputation. Absolutely, Uh,

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's It's just beautiful. Um. And I have no

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 1>doubt that Bill spending it on a combination of nose

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>candy and cryptocurrency is a better use for the money

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.760
<v Speaker 1>than I don't know, his fans buying more Trump branded

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>bullets with it. If you unscrew the top of the bullet,

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 1>there's a special holder for your cocaine. Are you suggesting, sir,

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that Bill Mitchell has gotten into brown round round round? Yeah? No, no, no, no, no, no.

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>If I apologize, I take it back. I kind of

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 1>think he might be um Now. Bill also claimed that,

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>for reasons he could not divulge, being based out of

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Miami would actually be better for his political journalism than

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>being based in d C. He tweeted, this is a

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>much better location for the show, based upon too many

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>reasons to explain. Here, better studio, much better distribution, far

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>far more reach, much more influenced. Wasn't even a close call.

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>This is the MAGA spot. But yeah, he's sucking right,

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>He's sucking right. Trump made maral Lago. It's more central

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:21.879
<v Speaker 1>to the fucking country than washing the DC White House. Yeah,

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you you can't say he's entirely off base in that,

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>even though he is absolutely grifting his followers. Him and

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein knew that this was a better place to

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>own a mansion. Jeffstein um Now in another defensive tweet,

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 1>They'll explained, during my work to relocate to d C

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>several trips, I was made an offer which will position

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>me to literally change the social media experience for everyone

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>in the Trump family. That's exciting, isn't it. Yeah? You

0:39:51.560 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>know what else is exciting? What God motherfucking pivots. This

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>is how I griffed my audience. So if you want

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to buy some I don't know, Nancy Pelosi themed bullets,

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>that might be the next ad, although almost certainly not

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>daily cost just drops off bullets. It's just it's hard

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to make a good punisher skull out of her hairstyle. Um.

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there's the marketing team's really had trouble. Um.

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Oddly enough, the Bernie Sanders m O sells incredibly well. Um,

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:39.879
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, there you go, so products we're back now. Uh.

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>That offer, which Bill claimed was going to completely change

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the social media experience of the entire Trump family was

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>his new job with Yippie, And so far the search

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.399
<v Speaker 1>engine has had zero discernible impact on the social media

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>experience of the Trump family or the whier Internet. Uh.

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's kind of hard to even figure out

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>how to search with Yippi. Um, Like, it's not like

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 1>using yandek. There's something where you just like type it

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>in like it's it's it seems to be a pain

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in the ass. Um they're gonna look back on this

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>era and be like Dan, it was crazy to watch

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the two the two, uh, the two big entities. The

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>two titans, Yippie and Bing go head to head. Hippie

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>is so small that even Bing gets to make fun

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>of it. Um and and Bing is just three guys

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 1>in a basement in Redmond crying most of the day.

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah now um. Back in August, Bill Mitchell was

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>briefly booked to be a speaker at the Digital Soldiers Conference,

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a one day Q and AN event that was supposed

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>to be held in Atlanta this September. It was Bill

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I P R I P. It was billed as an

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>event to help organize patriotic social media warriors for a

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>digital civil war against censorship and suppression. Event was organized

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>by Bill's boss, Richard Granville, who firmly denied the event

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>was in any way tied to Q and ON, despite

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.720
<v Speaker 1>the fact that the logo for the event was literally

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>an American flag with all of the stars shaped into

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>a giant Grandville, we want our fucking thousand dollars back

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 1>for our fucking plane tickets, asshole. Did you actually book

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 1>plane tickets for that thing? No? Good, we did, we did,

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 1>we did, solid Griffin. Wow, Well, I hear Atlanta's lovely

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>in September Now, Grandville claimed that the three stars making

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>up q's tail were actually a reference to Michael Flynn,

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>a three star general, and had nothing to do with

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Q at on, which is solid lie man. The file

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 1>name on that image was Q dash flag dot j peg. Amazing, amazing. Yes,

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and I've heard, I've heard the three stars stand for

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the Holy Trinity. Yeah, what are those again? Jake, the Father,

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the Son, and the Holy Ghost? Yeah you did, except

0:42:55.920 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>isn't it Holy Spirit? Holy Ghost? Like a Catholic boy gratulation,

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Good job money, You're not Jewish anymore now. Thankfully that

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>event was canceled, and as of late, Bill seems to

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>be making a moderately concerted effort to slightly distance himself

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:15.800
<v Speaker 1>from the Q movement. This may have something to do

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>with all of the mash shooting. Spawn by eight Chance,

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the website which also hosted the Q research board. On

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>September eighteenth, Bill tweeted this, The media loves to say

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm this big que and on guy, I'm really not.

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't follow QUE post regularly and never have. I

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>agree with their premise that we should trust the plan.

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Is it mirrors slow walker? Hashtag slow walker in many

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>ways and the Q people, I actually know love Trump.

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>That's it. But you literally cannot read a media article

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>about me that doesn't begin Bill Mitchell major Q and

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 1>on conspiracy theorist. It's comical because it's such bullshit. Q

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 1>does Q I do me? Now? Have y'all ever heard

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>of hashtag slow walker? Yes? Yes, I actually have not

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>tell me about this. Slow Walker is essentially Bill Mitchell's

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 1>bargain basement rip off of Q and on. Uh. It's

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 1>it's him trying to make his own Q and ON.

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>The basic idea is that Trump and Jeff Sessions were

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.439
<v Speaker 1>putting together a slow, deliberate plan to unravel the deep state,

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and originally Bill thought this was all going to come

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>to fruition. During the mid terms, he came to have

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>come up with this idea via quote the holmesy and

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>method of deduction. I do believe he was smoking a

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>pipe of some sort when he came up with this idea,

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think it was tobacco. Now, when the

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.800
<v Speaker 1>mid terms came and went and Jeff Sessions left, you

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>may have expected Bill to have pulled back from his

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>pet conspiracy theory. If so, you don't know Bill Mitchell.

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>He never pulls back from any theory, and early September

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>two thousand nineteen, he quote tweeted President Trump, absolutely nothing

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 1>is more important than going back and getting to the

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the origins of the investigation. We had an

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>administration using America's spying apparatus to spy on a political

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:02.399
<v Speaker 1>opponent at the height of a presidential election, so Mitchell says,

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.839
<v Speaker 1>to this, President Trump says, the Muller investigation was one

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 1>of my great achievements. And then he says this, I mean,

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>could he foreshadow the closing act of this hashtag slow

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 1>walker play any harder? Buckle up, Democrats? It gets rough

0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>from here. Based upon this statement, I am now more

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>convinced that hashtag slow walker and hashtag trust the Plan

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 1>are a hundred percent real. Else why would Trump call

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the in Mueller investigation his greatest achievement? Yeah that's it. Uh.

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 1>Jold Cola tastes really good as well as Coca cola. Yeah,

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. Uh, It's just amazing. Now. There really is

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 1>so much more I could say about Bill Mitchell, but

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the right place to end this little

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>rite up is by discussing what I think maybe his

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>very worst take of all time, which is There's a

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of competition for that, but this one is just

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 1>staggeringly good. Back in February of this year, on an

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>episode of Your Voice America, Bill declared that racism was

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>not a huge problem in America and said white privilege

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 1>does not exist. Out He wasn't just saying that out

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of his ass. He had evidence for this statement, and

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 1>his evidence was this deeply compelling anecdote about something he'd

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>experienced that very weekend quote. I stopped by the grocery

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>store and did some grocery shopping. I went around, did

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>some various things, drove around in the car, so far

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and so forth, interacted with people. I saw Black Americans,

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I saw Hispanic Americans, I saw Asian Americans. And you

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I didn't see all day, not once, not

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 1>one time, racism. I saw no racism. I saw no

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>black people being asked to get in the back of

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the line. I saw no Hispanic people being denied service.

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I saw no racism anywhere. You know why, because racism

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 1>is not a huge problem in America today, I'm sure

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 1>some liberals heads are exploding, asking how could Bill Mitchell

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>say that racism is not a huge problem in America?

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying it. Racism is not a huge problem in America.

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>They talk about white privilege. I'm still waiting to be

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>able to cash in on my white privilege. Where is it.

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:55.879
<v Speaker 1>I haven't gotten anything in life that I didn't work

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 1>hard for when I go to check in the Yeah,

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it's fun, grand piece of ship, guys, Guys, I think

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 1>this is a clear example of blues clusion deduction. I

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.799
<v Speaker 1>mean he did he tweeted two hundred and seventy times

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 1>a day to get that fifteen grand Yeah. His fingers

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 1>are just a pulp. Uh. And that is my write

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>up of Bill Mitchell. Beautiful stuff. Wow, he is such

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful boy. Yeah, he's an incredible piece of shit.

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I what what stuns me most about is

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>like he was trying to deny that he is a

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 1>q and on guy. I mean he interviewed Praying Medic

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>on his show. Yeah, you don't get more que and

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 1>on than that, and he's basically come up with this

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 1>like bullshit, like parallel theory that's exactly the same where

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 1>he's like he's like que and on a little too obscure,

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:53.759
<v Speaker 1>and and then he comes up with kind of like

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a like an off brand Stephen King novel sort of

0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>title like slow Walker, Like it's just the unbelievable bullshit. Yeah,

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty it's pretty amazing. Um, I like, I

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what else to say. Uh that that's

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>all I've got on fucking Bill Mitchell. Um, you know

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that it's really it's Bill Mitchell is like

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, the the election of President Donald Trump was

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 1>like it was like this. It was like the lamentation

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 1>or the lament configuration was like solved and released all

0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 1>of these demons into the media world. And Bill Mitchell

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 1>just one of those demons that are just still with us. Yeah,

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:35.439
<v Speaker 1>we opened Pandora's box and Bill Mitchell bled out into

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:37.839
<v Speaker 1>the reality, and now we can't get rid of him

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:43.240
<v Speaker 1>until we build some sort of Ghostbusters like device back. Dude,

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I was literally I was literally about to make a

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:50.839
<v Speaker 1>reference of the roof of the firehouse blowing off after

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 1>after Walter Peck shuts down. Then I was literally about

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I was waiting for everybody stopped talking to make a

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Ghostbusters reference. You were gonna make a references your favorite movie?

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 1>We are spirits, my friend, we both thought about Ghostbusters

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. We both love Bill Mitchell and

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:15.479
<v Speaker 1>fucking James Comey is absolutely Walter Pett doubt in my mind,

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>also not at doubt in my mind that he has

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>no dick. This man has no dick. Oh boy, alright, guys,

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>well that's the behind the bastard portion of this, this

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 1>wonderful hybrid episode. Shall we move on to the Q

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:39.879
<v Speaker 1>and On Anonymous portion? Yes? Absolutely, that was incredible. Jake

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>is about to take you down a notch. Oh boy,

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:46.360
<v Speaker 1>are we doing the story now? All right, let's do it. Jesus,

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Jesus God. All right, well, let's explain what this is

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 1>for my listeners who may not have listened to Q

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and On Anonymous yet, but hopefully we'll be soon. Yeah.

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 1>So Jake writes these radio plays. Now, I'm sure he

0:49:57.320 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 1>would say that their masterpieces. They are in fact, just

0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the mented product of a rotting mind. But they make

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 1>us all giggle a lot. Yeah. I tend to usually

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>write them, but like two or three in the morning,

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 1>like Julian texted me yesterday and he was like, hey, man,

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 1>do you think we could lay the story into the document,

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<v Speaker 1>So so Robert can take a look at it before

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>we kick off tomorrow. And I was like, oh, it

0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>won't be complete until three thirty four possibly am in

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the morning. And in your defense, I absolutely did not

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 1>read it. Uh, it was good busy doing dangerous drugs

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 1>last night. That's good. No, it's it's actually better for

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 1>everybody if nobody knows what's coming in the story. It's

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:39.239
<v Speaker 1>been The only really advantage that I have is the

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 1>element of surprise. Yeah. Yeah, I feel the same way

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 1>about my episodes. I didn't. I wanted to drop that

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Bill Mitchell selling bullets. Oh my god, she was amazing. Well,

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 1>what's great actually is is some of the very things

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>you've touched on in your portion make an appearance in

0:50:56.280 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>this story in one way or another. So, without further ado, Uh,

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Yeah, what's the name of the story.

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:08.439
<v Speaker 1>The title of this story is called the Third Meme

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 1>War Wish Jesus Christ, Jake Rapatanski, and Robert Evans. It's

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 1>good job weight on that the food War. I say again, God, yeah,

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:25.319
<v Speaker 1>Robert is not responsible for this word. Yeah, Robert has

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.359
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with this. I did not ask him

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>if any of this was okay. He has he is

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 1>free to delete it from any portion of his program.

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 1>The groan of the heavy doors on the forty seven

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 1>woke Evans up from a shallow slumber. Based on the

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>flaming projectiles rocketing past the windows, he knew they were close.

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:46.960
<v Speaker 1>The hull of the aircraft shuttered as he watched the

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:49.840
<v Speaker 1>soldiers on board check and double check their gear. It

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:51.839
<v Speaker 1>was the third Meme war in about as many years,

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:55.279
<v Speaker 1>a war Evans would rather not have covered, but here

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 1>he was watching Agent Postso and his ragtag group of

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.839
<v Speaker 1>wife and child strap pandola's with air paybies to their

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 1>flat jack. Forgive me, forgive me, Robert, Robert, Hey Bill Mitchell.

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:13.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll be your your handler. Once we hit the beach,

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 1>stick with me and you'll you'll, you'll taste that, the sweet,

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:19.360
<v Speaker 1>sweet smell of exercising your god given first Amendment freedom

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:21.919
<v Speaker 1>of speech. Mitchell leaned his head back and clucked towards

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the ceiling of the helicopter. Evan's heart sunk into the

0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:27.240
<v Speaker 1>bottom of his chest. Should have stayed in fucking Iraq,

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Evans muttered under his breath. Mitchell busied himself trying to

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:34.560
<v Speaker 1>load a large spy gate infographic into a giant bazooka.

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't having much success. Evans led on an audible side.

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 1>He should have never taken a gig. Everyone warned him

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:44.799
<v Speaker 1>not to, but somebody was paying big money to make

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a three and sixty degree documentary of the third memor.

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Evans had initially thought the job was a hoax, since

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>memes are usually most effective in two D, but after

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the first check cleared, he didn't ask any questions. Sometimes

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you take the job, sometimes you take the paycheck. Plus,

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:02.799
<v Speaker 1>the Digital Soldiers were up against the seemingly unstoppable yet

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:07.600
<v Speaker 1>fascinating foe. They called them the Shadow Bands. The Shadow

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:09.959
<v Speaker 1>Bands had emerged from caverns deep within the earth around

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 1>November of large amalgamust creatures set to transcend time and space.

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 1>No one knew how many there were, or if they

0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>could be stopped at all. In three years, the best

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:21.839
<v Speaker 1>the Digital Soldiers could do was attempt to fire their

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 1>memes past the creatures. With patients and good aim, they

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.080
<v Speaker 1>had a chance at hitting a normy and red peeling them.

0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Evans looked down at this small recorder in his hand.

0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:34.040
<v Speaker 1>He pressed the small circular button and watched the levels

0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:36.920
<v Speaker 1>begin to jump across the small orange screen. He extended

0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>his arm in Mitchell's direction. So what is it you're

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:42.919
<v Speaker 1>hoping to accomplish here today? Evans asked, Ah, Well, you see,

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I got all these spygate posters, epic Times, that fantastic content.

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 1>General Vander Steel needs these memes to go viral. Charlie

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Companies trying to get it trending on Twitter, and we'll

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 1>be at the shores of Reddit in uh. He glanced

0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 1>at his wrist, although as far as Evans could tell,

0:53:56.160 --> 0:54:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell wasn't wearing a watch. Eighteen hundred hours, Mitchell quipped, happily,

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:05.800
<v Speaker 1>he looked like a child who had been told that

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:16.839
<v Speaker 1>he could pick out He looked like a child who

0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:19.160
<v Speaker 1>had been told he could pick out one toy toys

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>r us melting crying, Evan's watched. He stuffed a handful

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of NPC memes into his pockets, just in case Mitchell shouted.

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:33.839
<v Speaker 1>A giant explosion rocked the helicopter. Evan shielded his eyes

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a blinding spout of light or through the damage. Shall

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:38.840
<v Speaker 1>soldiers shrieked if they were sucked out into the soft

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:42.279
<v Speaker 1>orange clouds. Evan scripts recorded tight eyes wide as he

0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:45.760
<v Speaker 1>watched Agent posts. So abandoned his family and checked himself

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:49.879
<v Speaker 1>from the rear of theall We've got a drop now,

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell screamed, before snorting a giant rail of cocaine off

0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the back of his hand. He clipped a large metal

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:57.799
<v Speaker 1>hook through a tether on Evan's utility belt, and then

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 1>they were in the air. It was chaos. Smoldering projectile

0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 1>sit by them as they tumbled through the air. See

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:07.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a real war, Mitchell called out, as nearby soldiers,

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:10.800
<v Speaker 1>also in freefall, made high speed contact with debris and shrapnel.

0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:14.239
<v Speaker 1>What screamed to perplex Evans was this motherfucker really trying

0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:16.320
<v Speaker 1>to argue? Some point. As the pair hurtled towards a

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:19.320
<v Speaker 1>war zone on some god forsaken message board, Bill Mitchell

0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 1>was no longer paying attention to him. Instead, he held

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:23.960
<v Speaker 1>his phone out in the air, playing that Your Voice

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 1>America theme song as loud as the volume would go.

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Evan's stomach heaved as the jolt from the parachute shook

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:33.280
<v Speaker 1>its way through his bones. He gripped the ropes tightly

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and watched the ground rush towards him an alarming speed.

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 1>The impact wasn't as bad as he had feared. The

0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:40.839
<v Speaker 1>shock from the descent made it hard to process anything really.

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 1>All around him, soldiers were hurling themselves through sands, firing

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 1>off golden papers. Automatic downvote fire ricocheted off the ground

0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:50.920
<v Speaker 1>beneath him. A hand reached out and grabbed his shoulder

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and spun him around. It was Mitchell. He was screaming

0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:56.400
<v Speaker 1>in Evans's face, but he couldn't hear a word. Mitchell's

0:55:56.400 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 1>breath smelled like cocaine goldfish crackers for really. His ears

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 1>began to adjust and the sounds of the battlefield came

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 1>into focus. Do you want some cocaine? Mitchell yelled, but

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:10.520
<v Speaker 1>before Evans could answer, the sand beneath their feet began

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:13.839
<v Speaker 1>to quake. Waterfalls of sand poured into the ground under them,

0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 1>and a giant, shimmery creature on six legs scuttled to

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:21.760
<v Speaker 1>its feet, towering over the two men. Evans froze shut open.

0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell yelled. A couple of soldiers nearby concentrated poorly written

0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:28.680
<v Speaker 1>complaints towards the monster. When a handful of them made contact,

0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Evan watched this. Their petty strong man arguments were absorbed

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:35.440
<v Speaker 1>directly into the monster's galactic looking skin. Mitchell ran right

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:39.360
<v Speaker 1>towards the creature. This is very unfair. The creature immediately

0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>shredded Mitchell in too a thousand pieces. Evans stared at

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:46.239
<v Speaker 1>the back. Evans stared at the blood soaked sand where

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell was standing just a moment ago, as the monster

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:55.640
<v Speaker 1>approached him, tentacles rippling, then blackness. The groan of the

0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:58.120
<v Speaker 1>heavy doors on the forty seven woke Evan's up from

0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:01.560
<v Speaker 1>michelle slumber. This time, he shot up and clutched his chest,

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 1>fighting for quick, shallow rez. The hull of the aircraft

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:06.920
<v Speaker 1>shuttered as he watched the soldiers on board check and

0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:11.319
<v Speaker 1>double checked their gear. You're okay, familiar voice piped out.

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 1>It was Mitchell again, struggling with the oversized spike. Infographic

0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 1>agent Posto and his ragtag group of wife and child

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 1>again strapped Bandola's with rare paypaste in their flat jackets.

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Evans couldn't believe it. We're staring at the surprisingly handsome

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:28.240
<v Speaker 1>man with thick, silvery hair, who moments ago had just

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 1>been turned to pulp right before his eyes. Evans looked

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.000
<v Speaker 1>down at the small recorder in his hand. He pressed

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the circular button and watched the levels begin to jump

0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 1>on the orange screen. He extended his arm in Mitchell's

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 1>direction again, his hand shaking a little. So, Bill, are

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>you afraid of dying today? Evans asked, Bill, stop fiddling

0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:48.600
<v Speaker 1>with the memes. He thought, long and hard. Let me

0:57:48.640 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 1>tell you someone, Look, here's the deal. At one point

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 1>in my life, yes, I might have feared debt, But Son,

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:57.439
<v Speaker 1>believe me what I tell you that that went away

0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the day that Donald J. Trump might bread that it

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:03.480
<v Speaker 1>was elected into office. He is an extra celestial angel

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:05.640
<v Speaker 1>who will ride down on a cloud of matter and

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and carry my wounded soul directly into the arms of

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ himself, and I will sing with the angels

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and kings from now until he turnity. A giant explosion

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:17.600
<v Speaker 1>rocked the helicopter. Evan shielded his eyes again as a

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 1>blinding spout of light poured in through the damaged hull.

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Soldiers shrieked as they were sucked out in the soft

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:25.479
<v Speaker 1>orange clouds. Evanscript is recorded tight eyes wide, has watched

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:28.960
<v Speaker 1>agent posts, so once again abandoned his family and eject

0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>himself from the rear of the helicopter. It was all

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the same as before the free fall the parachute the

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 1>battlefield like a bad case at Desia. Who again the

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:41.240
<v Speaker 1>shadow Band emerged from the blood soaked sands. Evans watched

0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 1>his Mitchell once again attempted to argue with the creature.

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Kevan snapped too, No, no, it kills you, he shouted

0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:50.439
<v Speaker 1>towards Mitchell. Instinctively, Evan sprang to his feet and hooked

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:52.640
<v Speaker 1>a hand under one of Mitchell's elbows, dragging him away

0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:54.680
<v Speaker 1>from the creature, who had turned its focus on other

0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 1>nearby soldiers trying to drop moebs into our politics. Evans

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and Mitchell duck behind the wreckage of falling craft. Much

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:03.160
<v Speaker 1>of the hull was still intact and made for some

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:06.640
<v Speaker 1>good cover. Mitchell seemed perturbed, What are you doing? I

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:09.440
<v Speaker 1>was fully ready to sacrifice myself to the shadow Band

0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:11.640
<v Speaker 1>so that other conservative minded figures would be able to

0:59:11.720 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 1>post these very educational epic Times infographics were even links

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to some of our most popular y v A episodes.

0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Evans stuck into his pocket and produced a crumpled pack

0:59:20.400 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 1>of cigarettes. He pinched one in between his teeth and

0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:25.080
<v Speaker 1>pulled it out of the package. Unable to find his lighter,

0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Evans held a cigarette next to a smoldering piece of

0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 1>melting steel and puffed until the cherry glowed read. He

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 1>exhaled deeply and glanced increduously at Mitchell. So what's the

0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:37.200
<v Speaker 1>deal with that? The whole falloon gong thing, Mitchell smiled wide.

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Fallon God is the deal. It's the deal for everything.

0:59:43.360 --> 0:59:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Just then, a group of Normies ran past the wreckage,

0:59:46.000 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 1>not noticing Mitchell. He sprang to his feet. Wait wait,

0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:51.320
<v Speaker 1>he shouted. The three turned around, not sure what to

0:59:51.400 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 1>make of this middle aged limo driver looking guy aiming

0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:58.160
<v Speaker 1>a large Mazuka directly at them. The original contents streaked

0:59:58.160 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 1>through the air and deployed a couple of inches from

0:59:59.880 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the Normies, reflecting a soft blue glow off their stunned faces.

1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:06.360
<v Speaker 1>But the hell is this ship? Yeah, of course our

1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement agencies are corrupt, But the fact that these

1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:12.480
<v Speaker 1>people think Trump's the solution fucking blows my mind. This

1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:18.120
<v Speaker 1>is a very informative graphic. The three wandered away, heading

1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:20.880
<v Speaker 1>towards various sub credits. What out of three eight bad?

1:00:21.000 --> 1:00:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell shouted as he shimmied his shoulders and going. In particular,

1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:27.160
<v Speaker 1>his nervous energy was giving Evans the fear. Come on,

1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell yelled, We're not too far from the rally point camp.

1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Donald will regroup there, Evans gathered himself slowly death by

1:00:33.560 --> 1:00:36.040
<v Speaker 1>shadow bands. Seemed preferable to spending any amount of time

1:00:36.080 --> 1:00:38.440
<v Speaker 1>in the Donald, but with nowhere else to go, he

1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:41.720
<v Speaker 1>began to reluctantly follow Bill off the beach. Come on, slow, both,

1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm four times your age and I'm moving way faster

1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:46.640
<v Speaker 1>than you. Bill smirked. Evans blinked in a similar manner

1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to a popular meme, what are you like A hundred yes, yes.

1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell kiggled his face resembling a plastic jackal lantern. Evans

1:00:56.840 --> 1:00:59.200
<v Speaker 1>rolled his eyes. Well, you're on a lot of cocaine,

1:00:59.480 --> 1:01:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell's lit off. That reminds me, he squawked. He reached

1:01:04.000 --> 1:01:05.840
<v Speaker 1>into one of the vest pockets and produced a rather

1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:09.600
<v Speaker 1>large baggy of cocaine. Come on, man, lamented Evans, but

1:01:09.680 --> 1:01:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it was no use, Mitchell lendo. Mitchell, Oh god, dude,

1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:19.280
<v Speaker 1>his face exploded. He's gonna cry that, I wrote. He's

1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:22.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna cry again Mitchell. Mitchell leaned over and picked up

1:01:22.240 --> 1:01:25.080
<v Speaker 1>a large seashell and used it to scoop a healthy

1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:27.760
<v Speaker 1>portion of cocaine out of the bag. He then lifted

1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the shell to his nose and inhaled deeply. At first

1:01:32.960 --> 1:01:35.480
<v Speaker 1>a look of pure ecstasy rushed across his face, but

1:01:35.560 --> 1:01:38.880
<v Speaker 1>it quickly turned to horror. Mitchell Clutch, Just Mitchell Clutch,

1:01:39.000 --> 1:01:42.280
<v Speaker 1>just Jez too much cocaine. He collapsed face first into

1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the sand, dead. Before Evans could even process what he

1:01:45.640 --> 1:01:48.200
<v Speaker 1>had witnessed, let alone comprehend that he'd also recorded it,

1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:50.600
<v Speaker 1>all of it in three hundred and sixty degrees. A

1:01:50.720 --> 1:01:54.160
<v Speaker 1>small platoon was on him. Hey, this guy killed Captain

1:01:54.240 --> 1:01:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Bill Hey. Hands where I can see him? Evans calmly

1:01:57.440 --> 1:01:59.760
<v Speaker 1>tried to explain to the frightened soldiers what had happened. Look,

1:01:59.840 --> 1:02:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I I didn't touch him at all. He overdosed on drugs.

1:02:02.280 --> 1:02:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Check his pockets. But the guys weren't even listening. They

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<v Speaker 1>had their rifles raised, their trigger, fingers shaking. Come on, Chad,

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<v Speaker 1>let's ducks this fool many killed Bill Fine, let's waste

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<v Speaker 1>them blocking. The gunshots seemed to echo off into eternity,

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<v Speaker 1>then blackness. The groan of the heavy doors on the

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<v Speaker 1>c H forty seven woke even stopped from a shallow slumber.

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<v Speaker 1>The hull of the aircraft shuttered as he watched the

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers off board check and double check their gear. You okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Familiar voice piped up. It was Mitchell again, struggling with

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<v Speaker 1>the oversized spy Gate infographic. Evan's mind raced, his eyes

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<v Speaker 1>darted around the hull of the forty seven Again. He

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<v Speaker 1>watched his agent posts so asked his wife to take

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of him holding a gun. Before Evans realized it,

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<v Speaker 1>he was shouting above the roar of the churning rotors.

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<v Speaker 1>We got aboard, We're about to get ahead. Mitchell and

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<v Speaker 1>Posto looked at him like he was crazy. Evans decided

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<v Speaker 1>to go for broke. Look, I'm living to stay over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again. At first I thought maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>a dream or some ship, but it's not. It's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>like Groundhog Day, Holiday, asked Bill Mitchell. Evans looked exasperated. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill Murray movie. Have you not seen it? All

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<v Speaker 1>three shook their heads. No, Evans real What about Edge

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<v Speaker 1>of Tomorrow with Tom Cruise? Have you seen that? All

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<v Speaker 1>three nodded excitedly, muttering praises of the film and cruises

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<v Speaker 1>natural knack for comedy. Boom, A giant explosion rocked the helicopter.

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<v Speaker 1>Evans shielded his eyes. His blinding spout of light poured

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<v Speaker 1>in through the damaged hull. Soldiers shrieked as they were

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<v Speaker 1>stoped out in the clouds. Evan scripted his recorder tight

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<v Speaker 1>as he watched Agent Posto abandoned his family the third

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<v Speaker 1>time and eject himself from the rear of the helicopter.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was the same, but different. This time. Evans moved

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<v Speaker 1>with ease, With one hand on the camera and one

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<v Speaker 1>planet firmly on Mitchell's shoulder. He guided them past the

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<v Speaker 1>roving shadow bands and armies of thoughts armed to the

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<v Speaker 1>teeth with Russian propaganda. It was the perfect take. After

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<v Speaker 1>some time, Mitchell and Evans arrived at Camp Underscore. Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Evans immediately noticed the three young soldiers who had murdered

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<v Speaker 1>him just moments ago. They were quietly stacking boxes of

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<v Speaker 1>ammunition with Sunday Gunday pictures and build a Wall memes.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell was yammering on excitedly. So you see the fallon

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<v Speaker 1>Gung religion. The human soul can actually and I know

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<v Speaker 1>this sound unbelievable, but I've seen it. It could travel

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<v Speaker 1>back in time and inhabit the consciousness of its past self.

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<v Speaker 1>But short of a cosmic loophole, if you will Kevans

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<v Speaker 1>slumped down next to a pile of coats and bricks

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<v Speaker 1>and lit up a cigarette. Mitchell sat down next to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's maybe that's what's happening to you. The same

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<v Speaker 1>thing happened to me a couple of months ago. Except

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I had to relive a torid love affair

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<v Speaker 1>with and and vander Steel for through three whole days

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<v Speaker 1>in a hotel room. Evan's unscrewed his camera from its mount.

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<v Speaker 1>He reached in his bag and pulled out a dusty laptop.

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<v Speaker 1>He began to scrub through. The footage came out perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>spicy memes streaking across the chaotic beach as digital soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>were picked off in the dozens by large shape shifting

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<v Speaker 1>creatures rat All of a sudden, a voice shouted, throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the entire camp in a panic strike. Everyone ran for cover,

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<v Speaker 1>ducking into large tub skilled with videos of Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>touching young girls, climate change denial flags, and large wooden

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<v Speaker 1>crates bursting with vaguely anti semitic grounds. From behind a tent,

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<v Speaker 1>Evans watched as a large bomber flown by Seth Abramson

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<v Speaker 1>rained down a four hundred and thirty seventh thread tweet storm.

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<v Speaker 1>The digital soldiers watched in horror. As the norm He's

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped their arms around the tweets and proudly showed them

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<v Speaker 1>to their friends. In the distance, the shadow bands were

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<v Speaker 1>spinning rapidly toward the camp that Donald had become overrun.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing Evans saw was Bill Mitchell holding his

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<v Speaker 1>phone to his ear, trying to listen to Your Voice

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<v Speaker 1>America theme song one last time. However, the signal wasn't great,

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<v Speaker 1>and it appeared that Mitchell's fine off leisure would be

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<v Speaker 1>plagued by buffering issues. Blackness, the growing of the computer

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<v Speaker 1>fans woke Evan's up from his deep slumber. He glanced

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<v Speaker 1>around his apartment. His eyes landed on the digital clock

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<v Speaker 1>displayed near the bottom of his laptop screen. Three am. Ship.

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<v Speaker 1>It was way too late. He had record some weird

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<v Speaker 1>Q and on podcasts at eleven am. That was only

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<v Speaker 1>six hours from now. He glanced down at the key

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<v Speaker 1>word he had dozed off with his hand pressed firmly

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<v Speaker 1>on the mouse pad on the screen. Www dot Reddit

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<v Speaker 1>dot com was refreshing over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>The end just you've outdone yourself. It's beautiful. I say again, God, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what a TRAVISI what a Travis underscore views? What the

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<v Speaker 1>Travis under score views. I do always like hearing the

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<v Speaker 1>phrase spicy means, especially when I've turned them into some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of ammunition is to be. And Evans was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>the one who you know, fell asleep at his keyboard

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<v Speaker 1>last night at three am trying to trying to write

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<v Speaker 1>something for today's podcast. There's always looked, there's always a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of truth and everything that I write. You know, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>you are the first non qa A host to play somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone yourself in one of Jake's stories. How does

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<v Speaker 1>it feel? Uh, it feels like being Tom cruise Um,

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<v Speaker 1>which feels vaguely like living inside of a carburetor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's how I would describe it. Yeah, Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to your appearance on Oprah where you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>jump to your feet on a couch and try to

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<v Speaker 1>explain foulon gong to the audience. I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>that too. Actually, Travis, you have some serious questions that

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to uh, you know, your head with your

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<v Speaker 1>friend Robert. Yeah, I want to ask about how you

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<v Speaker 1>covered the the Portland, Oregon protests and counter protests last

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<v Speaker 1>month on August seventeen, what was the qul On presence.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, you know, this was the first one of

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<v Speaker 1>whom I actually saw some I think because it was

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<v Speaker 1>a larger demonstration. But there were a number of people

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<v Speaker 1>with Q and on shirts and several Q and on

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<v Speaker 1>uh signs. There was a guy with a Q and

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<v Speaker 1>on patch on his body armor. Um. Yeah, Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely a lot of people trusting the plan there

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<v Speaker 1>that day. You think there's any cross poll nation between

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<v Speaker 1>q and On and other sort of broad sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like a far right kind of organizations or movements, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of depends. I think that the the the

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<v Speaker 1>actual like neo Nazi and fascist far right tends to

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<v Speaker 1>view the Q and honors is goofy, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>cannon fodder. Um, Like they're they're they're just they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>not thought of highly Yeah, but there's also this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of understanding that they're kind of useful idiots, and some

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<v Speaker 1>of them can be uh, I don't know the term

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<v Speaker 1>they use as usually like jew pilled or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that this deep state is really just the collective

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish race. Um. So there's that sort of attitude. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also this like, yeah, it's generally pretty dismissive. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot more CUE believers among like

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<v Speaker 1>the the Proud Boy Patriot Prayer set, because they're sort

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<v Speaker 1>of less uh less into the Nazi ship. Um. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>and like they're all kind of useful idiots to the Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's a it's a a constellation of

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<v Speaker 1>of idiots who mostly act as like ablative armor for

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<v Speaker 1>the hardcore of actual fascists. Yeah, beautiful. I love that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it does it does really fit with the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that Q and on is a grift and a belief

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<v Speaker 1>system with very little intent. But they are basically Nazis

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<v Speaker 1>without even knowing it. Yeah, I don't think. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them don't even come into it from

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<v Speaker 1>like a bad place. They just Um, I can't get

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<v Speaker 1>into the head of someone who gets drawn into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like a cult, you know. Once you once

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<v Speaker 1>you get pulled into that, like it becomes your entire

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<v Speaker 1>media ecosystem, and eventually your family stops talking to you, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you kind of have nothing else but this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And so like there's a mix in the Q community

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<v Speaker 1>of like people I would describe as like cultists who

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of sympathy for because they're clearly have

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<v Speaker 1>been pulled into something bad that's ruining their lives. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's the grifters who are profiting off of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And then sort behind the grifters are the people who

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<v Speaker 1>I think recognize this movement as an opportunity to further

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<v Speaker 1>they're much more radical goals. Um, So yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a complicated melange of gross bullshit. Yeah, that's a

1:10:15.000 --> 1:10:17.479
<v Speaker 1>good way of putting it. Um. I also want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask about um, your your your podcast, Uh it could

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<v Speaker 1>Happen here, which is excellent and if you, if any

1:10:24.400 --> 1:10:26.720
<v Speaker 1>listener hasn't heard it yet, you should go check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's about the possibility of a second American Civil War.

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<v Speaker 1>And although although that podcast mostly focuses on rural rural

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<v Speaker 1>Americans and the militia movement, do you think that Q

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<v Speaker 1>and on might have a role in sparking like a

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<v Speaker 1>serious domestic conflict. Yeah, I think, like any cult, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do consider it a cult. Like, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>significant chance for much more violence than we've seen. There's

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<v Speaker 1>already been a couple of cases that you could sort

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<v Speaker 1>of call an insurgent attack. You know, the guy parking

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<v Speaker 1>is fucking armored truck on the hoover Damn. That could

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<v Speaker 1>have very easily been a much more serious incident. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Like That's there's a lot of people who like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say this, one of the positive things about the que

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<v Speaker 1>and On as a cult is that it's not as

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<v Speaker 1>inherently nihilistic as like what the guys on eight Chance

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<v Speaker 1>pull Board believe. That's sort of like like like exterminationist

1:11:21.560 --> 1:11:25.000
<v Speaker 1>fascist ideology. Like there's obviously little strains of that through

1:11:25.080 --> 1:11:28.880
<v Speaker 1>corners of the community, but mostly these people they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want the world to end. Um. They just believe in

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of like magical period of American renewal that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is going to bring on. UM. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think at this point you're less likely to see outright

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<v Speaker 1>violent attacks on them. Most of the attacks are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be based on people trying to like fulfill some

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of the conspiracy or like do something like that

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<v Speaker 1>guy who shot the mob boss, thinking that it would

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<v Speaker 1>like that guy was like what he was basically like

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was tried before the citizens arrest of it

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<v Speaker 1>it turned bad, wound up shooting and killing him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a exactly the kind of attack we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see now. I what worries me is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a decent chunk of these people that believe way

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<v Speaker 1>too hard to give up um when you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, presumably Donald Trump will stop being president. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>either lose the election or there will be another election

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<v Speaker 1>and he won't win. And you know, obviously if Trump

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<v Speaker 1>makes some sort of like dictator play to stay in power,

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<v Speaker 1>these people would back him. Um. But I think the

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<v Speaker 1>more likely and worrying thing is that if Trump loses

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<v Speaker 1>the election um and decides to step down, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>this sizeable group of people who aren't going to understand

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening um, and who then might actually be pushed

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<v Speaker 1>into because like then their lives will still be fucked

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<v Speaker 1>like this this beautiful, Like there's a bunch of them.

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<v Speaker 1>We think they're going to get hired by the CIA

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, like when Trump reveals that the plan has

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<v Speaker 1>been real all along. Wait wait, wait, wait, Robert, because

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to Joe M and D M S. And

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<v Speaker 1>he says, the c I A M. The FBI will

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<v Speaker 1>be dissolved, but that the n s A is working

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<v Speaker 1>with the Q and on people, so they're very select

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<v Speaker 1>and uh CIA is clowns in America, they're the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, whatever, like whatever happens, it won't be these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>like their lives won't change for the better. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think there will never be this moment where like everything

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<v Speaker 1>gets fixed for them, which is what a lot of

1:13:13.760 --> 1:13:16.320
<v Speaker 1>them are hoping for. It's like this messianic kind of movement.

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<v Speaker 1>And when that collapses, assuming it collapses fully, UM, then

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<v Speaker 1>I think some of them might start, might be moved

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<v Speaker 1>to violence. That's what I'm really worried about for for Q,

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<v Speaker 1>and I definitely think, you know, they would be part

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<v Speaker 1>of any sort of insurgent movement if Donald Trump got

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<v Speaker 1>unseated in the next election and it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>contested sort of thing. Um Like, I could very easily

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of these people, like they all have guns,

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<v Speaker 1>like picking up weapons and becoming part of like a

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<v Speaker 1>movement like that. UM. Now, thankfully a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>are boomers, and I don't think would make particularly potent infantry,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think those would become like informants. They would

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<v Speaker 1>be like telling on the neighbor that's hiding the illegal

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<v Speaker 1>aliens and that, Yeah, they definitely would or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you you also have like a sizeable chunk of people

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<v Speaker 1>who might carry out attacks or something if they really

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<v Speaker 1>started to feel like that was the only way to

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<v Speaker 1>to save things. And I think it would probably be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty targeted towards like democratic lawmakers or news you know, journalists,

1:14:17.320 --> 1:14:19.519
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Like, Yeah, I very much worry about

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<v Speaker 1>what could happen in this movement. It's really like a

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<v Speaker 1>tiger by the tail. Uh. And obviously the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't even addressed any of this happening because they want

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<v Speaker 1>these votes. They also know that it would be toxic

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<v Speaker 1>to like their sane, rational voters to like even address

1:14:35.720 --> 1:14:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Q and On, so they're they're never going to disavow them.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I just don't know where all this can

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<v Speaker 1>end without something terrifying happening. It's very it's very dangerous. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say that it's really dangerous. And I think like

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<v Speaker 1>the number of people who are true believers in Q

1:14:54.200 --> 1:14:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and On is way larger than anybody wants to give

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<v Speaker 1>credit for at this point. Yeah, that's really my my

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<v Speaker 1>you really talk about really my nightmare scenario. There's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the psychiatrist um Robert J. Lifton in his book UM

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<v Speaker 1>destroying the world to save it. It's all about am Sharikio.

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<v Speaker 1>He has this concept called forcing the end, where where

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<v Speaker 1>basically this sort of cultish apocalyptic movement they get to

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<v Speaker 1>a point where they're impatient about their prophecies being fulfilled

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<v Speaker 1>and so they take action to make it happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>so really my nightmare scenario is the Q and community

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<v Speaker 1>they get to that in patient point where they stop

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<v Speaker 1>trusting the plan, stop trusting that the white hats will

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<v Speaker 1>take care of everything for them, and they'll force at

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<v Speaker 1>the end that they envision will happen. Right, They'll think

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<v Speaker 1>that the deep state is one and that and that

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<v Speaker 1>you know Q is actually the entire time been preparing

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<v Speaker 1>them to take up arms and and actually you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do battle on the streets of you know, their suburb

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Yeah, and that's that. Like I think um

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<v Speaker 1>Shinriko is a really good comparison to make Q and on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like um Shinriko was this Japanese cult that was

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<v Speaker 1>made up of like a lot of scientists and like

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<v Speaker 1>like literal geniuses and stuff who like believed that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of basically believed that, like the world needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be destroyed in order to bring on like sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a utopian vision, and they carried out a saren

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<v Speaker 1>gas attack among other things in the Tokyo subway. Um

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Q and on has a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>similarities to oum shinriko UM. But I guess one of

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<v Speaker 1>the saving graces is there's not a lot of genius

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<v Speaker 1>of physicists and chemists uh and engineers who are who

1:16:31.520 --> 1:16:34.760
<v Speaker 1>are well, probably a lot of engineers actually, um, Yeah,

1:16:34.840 --> 1:16:37.679
<v Speaker 1>probably a lot of people who could build fertilizer bombs,

1:16:37.720 --> 1:16:40.559
<v Speaker 1>but not a lot of people who could synthesize sarin gas. Uh.

1:16:40.760 --> 1:16:42.880
<v Speaker 1>So I guess we've got that going for us. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to talk about your writings about um

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<v Speaker 1>about eight chan. You've written some of the most thoughtful

1:16:48.960 --> 1:16:51.320
<v Speaker 1>work I think about eight chan for a belling cat.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that eight chan is down, where do you think

1:16:54.120 --> 1:16:56.839
<v Speaker 1>sort of like these on like these isolated neo Nazis

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<v Speaker 1>are going to do. Are they just gonna congregate another

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<v Speaker 1>place or have they just been sort of just mostly

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<v Speaker 1>neutered since since eight chan is offline, I think UM

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<v Speaker 1>a significant chunk of them are going to move on

1:17:08.760 --> 1:17:10.479
<v Speaker 1>to other things. One thing we know about sort of

1:17:10.520 --> 1:17:12.680
<v Speaker 1>fringe sites like eight chann is when they get shut down,

1:17:12.760 --> 1:17:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it does seem to have like a long term impact

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<v Speaker 1>on UM the total membership. There's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are kind of more casual and who might have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten pulled into like the more extreme parts of of

1:17:23.160 --> 1:17:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the kind of ideology there, who I think might just

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<v Speaker 1>find something else to do and maybe never get further radicalized.

1:17:29.320 --> 1:17:31.439
<v Speaker 1>So I do think it's good that it stays down.

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<v Speaker 1>That said, most of those people, or at least a

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<v Speaker 1>very sizeable chunk of them, like, aren't just not Nazis anymore.

1:17:38.080 --> 1:17:40.160
<v Speaker 1>They're just going and that we've seen a d asp

1:17:40.400 --> 1:17:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of sites like endo chan um, and we've seen some

1:17:42.920 --> 1:17:45.559
<v Speaker 1>of them filtering under Reddit and onto four chan um.

1:17:45.720 --> 1:17:47.839
<v Speaker 1>Some of them have made like fake mass shooting threats,

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<v Speaker 1>and I suspect we will continue to see that, And

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<v Speaker 1>I like it's it's not over by any means, Like

1:17:53.760 --> 1:17:57.000
<v Speaker 1>they've been neo Nazis on the Internet have been trying

1:17:57.040 --> 1:18:00.240
<v Speaker 1>to recruit people and like sort of convert large digital

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<v Speaker 1>communities to their beliefs for a long time now. UM

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think they're going to stop just because

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<v Speaker 1>one of their more radical hubs got shut down. When

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<v Speaker 1>we covered Turning Point USA, we noticed that some neo

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi organizations like Identity Europa which is now rebranded as

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<v Speaker 1>the American Identity Movement, they they were talking about infiltrating

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<v Speaker 1>Republican student organizations to better see their ideas and recruit people.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on that, Well, this is again,

1:18:26.640 --> 1:18:28.080
<v Speaker 1>this has been going on for a while. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look back to UM, there's you've you've got

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<v Speaker 1>two kind of strains of the white nationalist movement. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the Van Guardis and there's the main streamers UM and

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<v Speaker 1>the the the main streamers who are kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>one of their early leading dudes was a guy named

1:18:40.720 --> 1:18:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Willis Karto Um who formed a group called the Liberty

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<v Speaker 1>Lobby and who uh like basically started off like this

1:18:48.000 --> 1:18:51.360
<v Speaker 1>neo Nazi group, the National Alliance, which like distributed the

1:18:51.400 --> 1:18:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Turner diaries and was like a big part of like seating.

1:18:54.520 --> 1:18:58.040
<v Speaker 1>This most recent surge of Nazis got its start actually

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<v Speaker 1>as a youth group for Republican presidential candidate UM, and

1:19:02.520 --> 1:19:06.120
<v Speaker 1>it was then just overtime converted into this more extremist force. Um.

1:19:06.360 --> 1:19:09.400
<v Speaker 1>And so like there's been a lot of like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even going back to the days of George

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln Rockwell, a lot of like a very clear, concerted

1:19:13.680 --> 1:19:16.559
<v Speaker 1>effort to try and like convert normal conservatives to more

1:19:16.600 --> 1:19:20.400
<v Speaker 1>explicitly fascistic views. They definitely see that as like where

1:19:20.479 --> 1:19:24.280
<v Speaker 1>they can pull people from. Um. So what aim h

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<v Speaker 1>slash Identity Europa is trying to do with turning point

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<v Speaker 1>USA like is nothing new. UM. I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>they've gotten better at it over time, in large part

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<v Speaker 1>by sort of like hiding their power level, as they

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<v Speaker 1>say it, which is why I think the work of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, media collectives like Unicorn Riot, of like leaking

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<v Speaker 1>these groups internal chats and showing how they talk among

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<v Speaker 1>themselves now open they are about the Nazism when they're

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<v Speaker 1>not out in public. I think that's very important because

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of makes it impossible if you do your research,

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<v Speaker 1>to believe the lies that these groups say. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is that like none of the mainstream media

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<v Speaker 1>ever focused that much on any of this stuff, uh,

1:19:58.960 --> 1:20:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and so they can assistently get it all wrong. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why a lot of us keep talking to

1:20:05.200 --> 1:20:08.640
<v Speaker 1>them about like the nature of this kind of undercover

1:20:08.800 --> 1:20:12.320
<v Speaker 1>effort to uh red pill enormies. This me more if

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<v Speaker 1>you will. That's right? Um, okay, cool, that's really really

1:20:16.560 --> 1:20:19.960
<v Speaker 1>interesting stuff. Well, um, thanks so much for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast, and I guess we're thanking you for being

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<v Speaker 1>on your podcast. These crossover episodes are so bizarre. I

1:20:27.800 --> 1:20:34.599
<v Speaker 1>do like it though it's a crossover. The crossover. Uh,

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