1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: What's anonymous my queueses. Robert Evans hosted Behind the Bastards, 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: the podcast where we tell you everything you don't know 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: about the worst people in all of history. Uh. And 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: of course today is a very special day. We are 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: talking about Q and on one of the bastards behind 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: it uh and I'm I'm doing it with uh several 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: co hosts today the collective who hosts the Q and 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: on Anonymous podcast? You guys want to introduce yourselves. Travis View, 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: I am Jake Rocketanski and Julian Field is the third wheel. 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: I every car needs a third wheel, otherwise it would 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: be a bicycle. You can be our fourth baby doll, 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: and I will be defeat sticking through the floor. I 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: want to be the flint stone feed Now, now that 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: we're going with a fun car analogy, I want to 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: do something better. Come on now, Uh. We we we 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: have some weird similarities. Is that all of us are 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: people who started paying attention to different sections of eight 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: chan uh several years in the past for reasons that 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: are difficult to explain to anyone, including ourselves, and then 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: found our weird little obsession turned into meaningful news and 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: suddenly had to Field calls from the Washington Post and stuff. 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: Uh super weird, isn't it. We were doing the fun 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Nazis and you were doing the real Nazis. Yeah. Yeah, 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: we were doing like the goofiest Knatzi used who believed 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: in like you know, underground tunnels and ye know, and 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: uh coming military trimbunals. It was fantastical and the body 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: count was relatively low, so that that that makes our 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: work I think a little bit more entertaining. Yeah, and 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: imagine like a war where the only guy who died 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: was a mob boss. Yeah, pretty pretty good. And uh, 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: in case some listeners don't know, both the the neo 32 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: Nazis on h Chan who were responsible for all those 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: mass shootings and the people who are kind of like 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: driving the Q and on movement are are We're located 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: on eight Chan at different sections. There was the Q 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: research board, which is obvious what that was, and then 37 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: there's the poll board, which is where all the Nazis were. 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: There was a bit across pollination, but as not as 39 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: much as some people think. I know it was. It's like, um, 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: it's like those old Gary Larson cartoons, um, where they 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: would show you know, it would be like the skydiving 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: school and then like the crocodile farm right next to it. Yeah, 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: for for the for the real Nazis. They looked at 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: the Q and On board and they're like, nah, that 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: that looks like vulcans occultism, dude, we left that behind. Yeah, 46 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: it's funny. On the on the Q research board, on 47 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: every single thread, someone posted of some like really heavily 48 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: anti Semitic ship about like the Jewish question um and stuff, 49 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: and they actually wound up blaming me. They thought that 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: I was sort of seeding this information to try to 51 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: make them look the more anti Semitic they actually are. 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: I was not denied it. That's become common theme. They 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: also thought that we brought um, that we brought plants 54 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: to the Q and On rally a couple of weeks 55 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: ago to make them, to make them look stupider and 56 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: and than they already are. My favorite is Jocas Aben 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: of the Lines Led by Donkeys podcast. He responded to 58 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: our tweet where where it was like me pictured with 59 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: all these Q and On influencers, and he was like 60 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: did they know that? Like you were the host of 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: qu on anonymous and then one of the influencers answered 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: did they care? But it was too late he had replied, 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: so he clearly showed that he cared. So sad and 64 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: I was like, clearly they did, and no answer to that. 65 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: That's adorable. Well, today we're here to talk about somebody 66 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: who is not adorable. Uh, we're here to talk about 67 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: Bill Mitchell. Um who is uh I don't know, iluminary 68 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: of the of the Q movement. That's not the right 69 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: term to use at all for Bill Mitchell. Nothing should 70 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: describe him as aluminary. How would you describe Bill Mitchell? 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: I think he's luminous. If you look at him, everything 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: is just like a pale light. It just fucking blows 73 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: out your eyes. He's the white Wizard of Maga. I think, yeah, 74 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: I once uh, I think I once described him as 75 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: looking like a child who has a secret. Totally. Well, 76 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Bill is an interesting piece of ship and we're gonna 77 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: have fun talking about him today. Um So, Billiam Mitchell, 78 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: I've decided that's his real first name because I can't 79 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: find like a middle name or anything for him, So 80 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: so we're gonna go with Billiam was born in nineteen 81 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: sixty one or thereabouts, somewhere in Germany. His father was 82 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: an army colonel, his mother was a college professor. Now 83 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Bill has claimed that his dad wound up 84 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: working for the Joint Chiefs in the Pentagon at one 85 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: point and served in Koba in Vietnam. It's possible this 86 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: is true. It's also possible it's a lie because Bill 87 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: Mitchell lies constantly. There's really no way to know. Yeah, 88 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: as a general rule, I like to have as much 89 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: info as I can about these people's early lives, and unfortunately, 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: in Bill's case, there's not a lot of information to 91 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: go on. There aren't any super detailed profiles that delve 92 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: into his early life and background, and it kind of 93 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: seems like he doesn't want to go into much detail 94 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: about it, which is understandable. Uh. He graduated from the 95 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: University of Maryland in nineteen eighty two with a degree 96 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: in accounting and finance and was apparently a big theater buff, 97 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: which you can really see in his videos. Clearly a 98 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: guy who likes putting on a show. Jesus start superstar 99 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: kind of guy. Yeah. Yeah, if you haven't looked at this, dude, 100 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: you owe it to yourself. He has like the perfect 101 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: executive hair, um like like this, this white bowl on 102 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: his head, very distinguished looking. And he has a chin 103 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: like Jean Claude van Damme if he didn't exercise. Is 104 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: how I would describe his chin. Uh, chiseled and flabby 105 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: at the same time, which is very difficult to pull off. 106 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: He border character. I was gonna say, he looks like 107 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: a like a character you might create and like g 108 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: t a online like he looks like he looks like 109 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: if you played Fallout, the robot president who would like 110 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 1: speak over the radio. If that guy was a person, 111 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: he would look like Bill Mitchell. Yeah now Bill, Yeah, 112 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: like I said, lifelong Republican. In the nineteen nineties, he 113 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: fell in love with Ross Perot as a businessman, he 114 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: himself he liked the idea of having the country run 115 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: by businessman and uh, I think that that's a thing 116 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: only businessman thing. I don't think members of other professions 117 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: tend to think one of us should run the entire country. Yeah, well, 118 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: you're you're you're accustomed to uh telling other people what 119 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: to do, if you're like a CEO, then this, like 120 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: the president, is just another variation of that. I guess, yes, yes, 121 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: And clearly corporations and countries have the same goal. Uh, 122 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: maximizing shareholder value. Yeah now um. For the most part, 123 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: politics played a fairly minor role in Bill's life, and 124 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: he focused instead on his career running an executive recruitment 125 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: firm he founded. Has no wife or children. He threw 126 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: everything into his work back when it's still existed. His 127 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: company website executive decision dot biz You've gotta be kidding me. 128 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: Dot com not available? No, No, he could get dot 129 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: biz baby dot z Yeah, the classiest domain. Um. He 130 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: bragged that his bold, proactive style quote empowers clients to 131 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: acquire the finest staff on target, on time, every time. 132 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: In a BuzzFeed profile in two thousand sixteen, Charlie Warzel 133 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: noted quote his Yahoo answers profile, stretching back more than 134 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: a decade, paints a fuller picture across hundreds of questions 135 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: and answers. Mitchell reveals a successful recovery from colon cancer, 136 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: a frequent desired for feedback on whether or not to 137 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: color his graying hair, and endless mundane curiosities ranging from 138 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: the silly why do Jack Russell owners all look like 139 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: they want to kill themselves? Would a bumble bee? The 140 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: size of a man be able to fly to the 141 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: more existential. What is intuition and how often is it correct? 142 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: Why not pick create a condom that covers just the 143 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: top bench of your penis he and uh, he and 144 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: Matthew Whittaker should get together and team up. I love 145 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: that the guy has never tried just not pulling it 146 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: all the way down, just like you can test that 147 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: out yourself. Bill. I. I love that you say that 148 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: because it means that you and Bill had the exact 149 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: same thought at some point, but you translated into action. 150 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: That is slander, sir. I like to pull my condom 151 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: all around my balls. Wait this, Uh, these Yahoo answers 152 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: are like a treasure troue because I remember when when 153 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: we I tried to do some dig up some research 154 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: on Mitchell and the same thing. It was really hard 155 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: to find. But like hearing these answers, it's like looking 156 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: at it's like okay Cupid profile or something like. I 157 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: feel you could get to know the man. Yeah, Charlie 158 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Warzel is a good journalist and did a good job 159 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: of digging into this guy. So in the midas, Bill 160 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: moved to Charlotte, North Carolina. Charlotte, I said it Charlotte, 161 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: which is very wrong. I don't know why Charlotte, North Carolina. 162 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: He was there in two fifteen when Donald Trump, famous 163 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: rapist slash casino owner, wrote down the elevator of his 164 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: skyscraper to announce the start of a presidential campaign. Watching 165 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: at home, Bill Mitchell saw an opportunity. He had no 166 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: history and entertainment at this point, or political journalism. His 167 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: social media presence was minimal. He had less than a 168 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: hundred followers. But Bill was inspired by Donald Trump, and 169 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: he had something that no real journalist or pundit could 170 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: possibly have, a bone deep, perfect, almost religious certainty that 171 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was going to win the election. So chilling 172 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: to see. It's chilling to see the parallels with Jake. Yeah, 173 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: he has a platform and before two thousand sixteen nothing, 174 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: My hair is going gray. Yeah, yeah, it's Uh, there's 175 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: a lot of us who are in vaguely similar boats 176 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: to Bill Um just because we live in a hell 177 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: age where where all expertise has collapsed in on itself. 178 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: And so anybody who's good at tweeting, Uh, you can. 179 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: You can write Washington Post articles under a fake name. 180 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: It's a whole new world. We are the news now 181 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: say yes, yes, and it's uh, nothing but positives to 182 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: that being the case. So Bill started tweeting, because what 183 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: else are you gonna do? You're certain of something that 184 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: nobody else believes. He tweeted his herd and as fast 185 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: as anyone has ever tweeted before. Over the course of 186 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: the election, he posted an average of two hundred and 187 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: seventy times per day. How did you pull up these metrics, 188 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: Charlie Warzel did, like put that together? I guess, yeah, 189 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: it's that's so many tweets like I'm I I spent 190 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: too We all spend too much time on Twitter. That 191 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: is way too much. Five minutes, but that's if you 192 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: did over twenty four hours. You gotta sleep right well, 193 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, how does he keep his figure? I mean 194 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: I would imagine that he would look like like the 195 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: fat people strapped to the floating chairs and Wally, you know, 196 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: just glued to his phone going like mag I'm I 197 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: don't think he eats. I think he subsists entirely on 198 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: the energy he gets from hot takes, hot takes in cocaine. 199 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: Uh So some of his best takes, collected by Mr Warzl, 200 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: are as follows. You notice how close. Trump stands to 201 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: this black man as he listens to him. No racist 202 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: whatever to that. If you think about it, Hillary putting 203 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: women into baskets maybe one of the most sexist things 204 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: ever set in a political campaign. Trump's ground game isn't 205 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: in a computer, It's in our hearts. Imagine poles don't exist. 206 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: Show me evidence Hillary is winning. Jesus was perfect in 207 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: the media of his day. Had him crucified. Paco's pilot 208 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: was Rupert Murdoch. Yeah, ponscious pilot was the Fox New World. 209 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: I guess CNN of King Herod was actually um Jake Tapper. Well, 210 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: now that's not even a conspiracy. Jake Tapper is eternal, 211 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: like we've all that is true. Yes, that's true. And 212 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: Chris Chris Cuomo is is closing in slowly. He will 213 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: be eternal soon. Yeah, the the entire history of the world, 214 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: it's like the Dark Tower series, but instead of those 215 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: the characters Stephen King came up with, it's just Jake 216 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: Tapper and uh fucking Haraldo Rivera like battling throughout time 217 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: to God's muscles, rippling falling through clouds. Well you know 218 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: what you trace back Messopotamia. Then Jesus probably looked a 219 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: lot more like Haraldo Rivera than he did. Oddly enough, 220 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: Jesus was also hit in the face with a chair 221 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: during an episode of his talk a chair he built. 222 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: So Bill Mitchell started a podcast, Your Voice Radio, where 223 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: he expanded upon his political theories and talked to other 224 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: Trump world luminaries like Jack Piso Bik. In his interview 225 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: with BuzzFeed, Bill described Your Voice as a number one 226 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: political talk show, even though it only racked up a 227 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: few thousand downloads per episode. I can't say precisely how 228 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: popular it is now. But Spreaker, which is a podcasting platform, 229 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: says the whole series has about five eighty one thousand 230 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: total streams, which isn't bad, but is nowhere near number one. Um, 231 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: not even particularly close. We have double that on soundclod. Yeah, 232 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: I get about that much in a week. Um, and 233 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: we're not a number one podcast. Like see boys, I 234 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: told you it was going to be a good collaboration. Meanwhile, 235 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: Bill Mitchell's listening and he's like, oh, I thought it 236 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: was pretty good. But there's only about three hundred thousand 237 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: people in the world. Bill social media presence quickly grew 238 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: from the hundreds to the thousands and then to the 239 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: tens of thousands. Uh. And like I think by the 240 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: time that BuzzFeed article was done, like kind of near 241 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: the end of the election, he had about ninety thousand 242 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: Twitter followers. Now, Bill's Twitter work was way more popular 243 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: than his number one political talk show. In fact, he 244 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: grew to become one of the single most influential people 245 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: in the two thousand sixteen election. And I hate that. 246 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm serious about that. Uh. The M I T Media 247 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: Lab like crunched a bunch of numbers on it and 248 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: found him to be the twenty six most influential person 249 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: on Twitter of the entire election, accusing this by pedophiles incredible. 250 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: He's the highest ranked non politician or a journalist. To 251 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: give you some idea of how good Bill was it Twitter, 252 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: he wound up one place below Mitt Romney, one place 253 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: above the official GOP Twitter account, two places above Megan Kelly, 254 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: three above the Drudge Report, four above Paul Ryan, and 255 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: five above former President George W. Bush. So you gotta 256 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: give he's good at Twitter. Even though I owe my 257 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: being able to do this podcast to Twitter, I because 258 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: of stuff like that. I would not object to just 259 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: burning Twitter to the ground. Yeah, yes, yes, does Bill 260 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: Mitchell even know these stats about himself? I mean, this 261 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: is I feel like he would be. Of course, Bill 262 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: Mitchell wakes up every morning touching himself to these. So 263 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: he credits his success at Twitter with his skill at 264 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: using language. Quote, I've always been clever with words as 265 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: a recruiter. I make my living as a communicator. I'm 266 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: good with word images and painting pictures with a short 267 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: phrase here and there that people can relate to. When 268 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: asked how much time he spends making his tweets, he 269 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: dis missed the idea that there's you know, any planning 270 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: mind them. I'm just firing the thoughts out as I 271 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: come to them. I have an interesting take, you see. 272 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: I delve into the internals and really tell people what's 273 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: going on, and it's given me some fame. Now. As 274 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: ab served as Bill seems to most people, he clearly 275 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: has a gift for communicating with a very specific segment 276 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: of the American populace. But the last month of the election, 277 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: he averaged forty retweets and ten million Twitter impressions per day. 278 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: Holy sh it. Yeah, that's terrified, and it's really evidence 279 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: that the key is to just never stop posting, um, 280 00:15:54,400 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: never stopped posting, and never always pander, pander and post Right. 281 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: He actually spends all day just opening um Chinese fortune 282 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: cookies and just tweeting that out. Yeah yeah, that it's 283 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: that's actually really close to what he is. Um. He 284 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: also credited his success to the fact that he speaks 285 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: for a chunk of the American populace that even the 286 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: conservative media never let to speak. Quote. These are the 287 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: people who call into rush Limbaugh and who hold on 288 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: the line and never get on air. My tweets cut 289 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: on because I was saying out loud and using my 290 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: talent for words to say what they wanted. Like, I 291 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: speak for the people that Rush Limbaughs, Like y'all are 292 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: fucking nuts. Yes, the tweets you pull up while you're 293 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: waiting for a fucking opioid addicts to answer the line. 294 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: Oh boy. So while most of Bill's followers seem to 295 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: be committed Trump fans who appreciated his takes, a sizeable 296 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: number of them were liberal hate watchers, gleefully watching bills 297 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: increasingly unhinged predictions and laughing at him. They took particular 298 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: joy and mocking his attitude towards Poles do you see 299 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: Do you see what you did, Travis, Do you see 300 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: what you've done to this country? Very funny looking at 301 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: these guys and now they're president. Very funny, these guys, 302 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: these guys who have no influence on my life until 303 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: until they do, until they run the country. This tweet 304 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: is pretty emblematic of the kinds of things he was 305 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: saying in the months leading up to the election. This 306 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: is from August two thousand sixteen. A poll is a hypothesis. 307 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: Rallies and social media presence are empirical evidence. A hypothesis 308 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: unsupported by empirical evidence is wrong. Yeah, oh yeah, And 309 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: you bring up Nate Silver. Absolutely beautiful. Just the guy, 310 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: the data guy, data boy, the data man. Now. Nate 311 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: Silver responded to this tweet with a tweet set to 312 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: the tune of John Lennon's imagine imagine there's no polls. 313 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: It's easy if you try. No puwre quinnipac on crowd 314 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: size we rely, which is not not a bad joke, 315 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: but he ironically right, like I would love it if 316 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: they fucking eliminated the polls and actually looked at the 317 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: groundswell of people. Yeah, yeah, Bill was actually way more 318 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: in the right than the Nate on this one, which 319 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: is weird. Um Like, even as a guy who doesn't 320 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: like Nate Silver, it's very unfortunate. Um. And in fact 321 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: Bill kind of developed a reputation for being the right 322 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: wings Nate Silver equivalent. While Nate was wonky, evidence focused 323 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: and data driven, Bill Mitchell ran on pure gut instinct. 324 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: The divide between the two men's methodologies embodied the divide 325 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: between conservative and liberal in America. For his part, Bill 326 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: attacked the polls for being fundamentally flawed and complained that 327 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: they didn't really represent voters in the election. Since so 328 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: many of Trump's voters had been a political before two 329 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, they weren't the sort of folks posters talked to. 330 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: He argued that crowd size was a better predictor. Quote 331 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: if you arrived here from Mars today and you didn't 332 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: speak English, but you saw Trump every single day of 333 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: the week at these rallies. He's dominating online, he's dominating 334 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: yard signs and rallies and all the physical things we 335 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: can see. You'd think this guy is winning. If it 336 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: were up to me, i'd make polling illegal. This is 337 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: just my dream world. Yeah, He's like, polling doesn't matter. 338 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: We should make it illegal. Yeah, band poles um And 339 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm a fucking Martian that like came to like discovered 340 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: a new fucking planet. And the first thing I do 341 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: is like wander into a Maga rally. He actually does 342 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: look like a Martian wearing a skin suit. Yeah. And 343 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: if if a Martian wandered into a Maga rally, oh boy, here, 344 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: get about it. Here, he's a literal alien. He's a 345 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: literal illegal alien. Oh boy. Now. Bill's level of connection 346 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: to the Trump campaign was heavily debated. For his part, 347 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: he claimed to be in regular contact with the Trump 348 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: brothers and several other workers on the campaign. Digging done 349 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: by Buzzfeeds Charlie Warzell indicated that this was not the case, 350 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: and instead suggested that most of the people close to 351 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: Trump found him fundamentally irritating. Quote. He thought he was 352 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: going to be in charge of a Trump group in 353 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: North Carolina months ago, and when he got there he 354 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: found out he wasn't in left deciding not to be 355 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: a part of source said. Mitchell plays this down, alleging 356 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: that he volunteered to run so social media for the 357 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: campaign in North Carolina, but quit after a few weeks, 358 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: deciding his personal account was more helpful to the campaign. Still, 359 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: one source believes there's tension between Mitchell and the campaign, 360 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: explaining that earlier this year, Trump advisor and social media 361 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: director Dan Scovino unfollowed Mitchell after an incessant series of 362 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: Twitter direct messages filled with pointers about how wrong they 363 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: were doing social media. Um yeah, yeah, and I'm not 364 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: gonna say that Bill is wrong there. Uh, he might 365 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: be better than so at social media than anyone Trump 366 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: actually paid to do the job. Uh, but that's how 367 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: politics works. I mean, Bill Mitchell is is is a 368 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: never ending tweet storm. It's like if yees, if fucking 369 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: Seth Abramson never took a breath, that would be just 370 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: gave me the fear. Now. In that BuzzFeed article, Charlie 371 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: declared Bill to be the post truth, postmath anti Nate Silver. 372 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: It was not an unfriendly depiction, but the clear implication 373 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: was that he was a bit of a nut and 374 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: November two thousand sixteen was going to prove all of 375 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: his silly predictions wrong. And as we all know, that 376 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: did not happen. But Thursday after the election, Bill texted 377 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Charlie and asked, Hi, Charlie, will BuzzFeed be doing a 378 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: post truth follow up article on me? Smiley face now. 379 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: To his credit, Charlie Warstle fessed up to being owned 380 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: pretty hard by Bill Mitchell. He did, in fact write 381 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: a follow up article which revealed that Bill had spent 382 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: election night alone in his home studio interacting with his 383 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: Twitter followers, who by that point numbered nearly a hundred 384 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand. So because of his kind of relentless 385 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: uh predictioning I don't know what you want to call it, 386 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: Bill was treated as sort of an oracle. In the 387 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: immediate wake of Trump's upset election victory, he took the 388 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to try to rebrand himself as a political pundit. 389 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: He told Charlie Warzl that he thought Jared Kushner would 390 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: hire him to work at Trump TV, which was the 391 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: thing he thought would exist very soon. Bill raised ten 392 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for his YouTube show and got his radio 393 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: show syndicated on Cleveland a M Radio. Since his first 394 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: set of predictions had worked so well, he started making many, 395 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: many more like this one. I think the Wall will 396 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: become the next great American monument. Like the Statue of 397 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: Liberty Wall is a monument to our sovereignty. That's what 398 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: I'd say if I were on his marketing team. That's amazing, 399 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: because that's like the Great Wall of China if you 400 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: couldn't walk on it. Yeah, yeah, if it had like 401 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: no aesthetic value and also wasn't an impressive technical creation. Uh, 402 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: now you know it is an impressive technical creation. Guys, 403 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 1: what the products and services that that support this podcast? Uh? Pat, 404 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: you fucking waited for us to say what this is incredible? 405 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: And and and notice that Julian and Travis said nothing, 406 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: and me, the fucking like the village idiot, was like, yes, 407 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: well tell me more. Yeah, this is how we fucking 408 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: sell some goddamn dick pills. So congratulations, y'all are now 409 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: part of the erection industrial complex. I hope you're proud. 410 00:22:52,680 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm just glad this week it's dick pills products. We're back. Okay, 411 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: we're still talking about Bill Mitch uh be Mitch old Bill. 412 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: I can't come up with a good nickname for Michell 413 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: Mitchell Bitchell. Damn it. How did that not occur to me? 414 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: I feel very ashamed of this fact. So a few 415 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: months after the election, Bill showed up at Spack and 416 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: Seeing and declared him the happiest man at the convention, 417 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: which was probably a true. I'm gonna quote from their 418 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: article on him. I'm kind of a national figure now, 419 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: Mitchell said in an interview over Breakfast. Mitchell said he 420 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: took a big pay cut to launch his radio show 421 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: about six months ago. He's now in talks with a 422 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: number of investor groups about syndicating the program Your Voice Radio, 423 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: which currently streams on YouTube. To me, I'm fifty six 424 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: years old, Mitchell said, this is a wonderful opportunity to 425 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: self actualize, to do something that really matters to him. 426 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: He's fifty six to u. But unfortunately for Bill and 427 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: many other right wing grifters who hoped the Trump years 428 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: would bring them tremendous wealth and power, he proved to 429 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: be somewhat less adept once he moved on from simply 430 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: cheerleading a Trump victory and tried to build a brand 431 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: as a right wing thought leader. His first terrible mistake 432 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: in January of two thousand seventeen was attacking Pepe. Yeah, 433 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: did you guys know? Bill went to war with Pepe? Briefly? 434 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: I did not know, yeah, he really gave away his 435 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: sort of like his boomer tendency is there. This is 436 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: what happens when you give our topics to a real journalist. 437 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: He plays to us. So he tweeted on January second, 438 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm really sick of this damn green frog. 439 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: Who the hell thought it was a good mascot? Uh? Yeah? 440 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: The war on the mouse and Chuck e cheese Yeah, 441 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: Bill um. Now, like anyone who attacks the kind of 442 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: things that are popular with Channers, Bill was delused in 443 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: a flood of hateful comments. Janners started making fake Bill 444 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: Mitchell tweets which portrayed him as a Hall of Cost denier, 445 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: because that's like the only the only thing in their 446 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: bag is like, well, let's make him into a Holocaust denier, 447 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: you know now, Rather than you know, analyze the movement 448 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: he'd become a part of and acknowledged that it had 449 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: a hateful side, Bill took a different tactic. He decided 450 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: to brilliam Holocaust survivor George Soros for the fake accounts. 451 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm being attacked by thousands of accounts that didn't even 452 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: exist during the election, Almost no followers astroturfed Soros bs incredible. Yeah. 453 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: In another tweet, he called them soro spots. Um so, yeah, 454 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: very so. He decided to like counter accusations of being 455 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: extremely santi Semitic by being more dog whistley anti semitic. 456 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he sure did. Yeah, he sure did, which 457 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: is a bold move. Um. Yeah. You gotta respect the 458 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: the ability to zig and zag. Yeah. And you can 459 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: see those the non tendencies starting to bubble to the surface. 460 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And he he gets closer and closer to 461 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: that as the years go on. As the last three 462 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: years have played out, he's increasingly, uh, sort of sold 463 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: himself to the most extreme chunks of the American right wing. 464 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: In late two thousands seventeen, he started tweeting about Q 465 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: and On Now. Bill has always seemed less enthralled with 466 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: the specifics of the Q and On conspiracy or the 467 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: individual Q drops than he was with the cults recklessly 468 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: pro Trump version of reality. On one episode of his 469 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: radio show, he said this, what Q was trying to 470 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: do is motivate and encourage the base by what is 471 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: their hashtag? Trust the plan? What's the alternative to that question? 472 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: In doubt everything Donald Trump does. Constantly attack Donald Trump 473 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: from all these different sides. Every time he makes a 474 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: move that you and your linear small mind don't understand 475 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: that he and his strategic mind is setting up the 476 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: board for a win. But you don't get it. He 477 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: sacrifices his night because he's planning on checkmating your king 478 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: in five moves. But all of a sudden you go 479 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: out there and you're freaking out and pulling an end 480 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: culture on him. Is that what we should be doing? 481 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: What would make it better? Would that be a better world? 482 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: Would that make us more mega? What do you want? 483 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: What do you want? They're like, Oh, you're lowering us 484 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: into a false sense of security by giving you confidence 485 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: in Trump that Trump has got a plan to know 486 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: what the hell he's doing in all this? How does 487 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: that low anyone into a false sense of confidence? That 488 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard in 489 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 1: the world. I can't he's successful because I can't remember 490 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: the first sentence. Well, basically, I think, I mean, correct 491 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. But basically, instead of when somebody 492 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: says trust the plan, instead of being like, well, what 493 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: what's the plan, he's like, well, he's like, what I mean, 494 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: what else are you gonna do? Not trust in not 495 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: trust the unknown plan, Like, what do you think? He's 496 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: just a senile boomer tweeting and random and yelling at people. 497 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: Are you gonna what are you gonna think? What do 498 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: you think there's not some sort of preordained celestial influence 499 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: that's guiding all of this? Uh jeez, yeah, it's um, 500 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: it's quite something to watch now. In other tweets, Bill 501 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: has described the Q and On movement as harmless fun 502 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: and having o downside, and it's worth noting that both 503 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: of those tweets were made after several separate Q and 504 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: On believers committed murders or other attacks in ques name. 505 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: Just this, just this. Last August, Bill tweeted, if Q 506 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: and on is wrong, it's harmless fun. If Q and 507 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: on is right, the deep state is screwed. I like 508 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: those odds. To be fair to Mitchell, he only checks 509 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: the news when he's not tweeting, so he hasn't read 510 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: the news in like ten years. I also like that 511 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: he like it's just more evidence he has no idea 512 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: what odds are, like, like fundamentally doesn't understand what the 513 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: word means. That makes it more powerful though ironically, Yeah, yeah, 514 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: it's he's like Han Solo. Yeah, he's so dedicating being 515 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: the anti anti Nate Silver. He doesn't even understand how 516 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: numbers work. When I you know, if he really is 517 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: the anti Nate Silver. One of my goals for the 518 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: next year because I expect albeit at an event we're 519 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: both Bill Mitchell and Nate Silver are present, I want 520 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: to try and mash them together. I think if they 521 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: make physical contact, they might explode and destroy us. All 522 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: let's save the greater universe. Yeah, that's my goal. Or 523 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: create free energy for all of us, or create free energy. Yeah, 524 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: that might be the solution to global warming. Is just 525 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: like tie Nate Silver and Bill Mitchell together and stick 526 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: them in some sort of crude reactor. Yeah, they're like, 527 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: it's it's like you know what positive and negative battery 528 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: that you just if you glue them together and sort 529 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: of yeah, stuff them under some sort of fission reactor. Yeah, 530 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: that this is the key to to like free energy. Yeah, 531 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: Nate Silver and Bill Mitchell mashed together like fucking Reese's 532 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: Pieces sixty nine. Baby. Now, someone with a charitable opinion 533 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: towards Bill might be inclined to suggest that he didn't 534 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: believe all the media hype about the q movements increasingly 535 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: violent rhetoric, but Bill's own rhetoric has grown increasingly violent 536 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: in the years since Trump's election. This past May, on 537 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: an episode of Your Voice America, he stated that Democrats 538 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: really have become the party of Satan. He asked his 539 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: followers to pray for their president to have the wisdom 540 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 1: of God as he fights against the dem on might 541 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party. At this point, we are fighting 542 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: against evil. He went on to add, this feels like 543 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: the last day. Sometimes it's because he's just alone in 544 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: his basement with his run out of food. Yeah, it's 545 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: it's remarkable. I I love the idea that the Democrats 546 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: are the party of the devil because it gives them 547 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: so much power than they actually have, as opposed to 548 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: being like the party that roughly forty people in the 549 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: United States are passionate about and the rest are just like, well, 550 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: they're not literal Nazis, so I guess this is the best. 551 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's it's if only I wish Nancy 552 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: Pelosi would embrace Baha met like on an altar in 553 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: front of the Senate Like that would be such such 554 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: a great day. I'm here for that. Yeah, alas she 555 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: starts sacrificing chickens. Now, I'm going to quote from a 556 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: right wing Watch article on Bill Now quote Mitchell said 557 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: the fact that he has repeatedly called Democrats the party 558 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: of Satan on Twitter, and no Democrats have replied to 559 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: dispute the claim as evidence that he is right. Never once. 560 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: He said. It's like in their contract, they're not allowed 561 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:17,239 Speaker 1: to deny it. I don't know, it's weird. Yeah, they 562 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: sacrificed children. You know, people people with a contract with 563 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: Satan can't lie about their other contract with Satan. Well. No, 564 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: Satan is commonly known as the Prince of Truth. That's 565 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: what everybody calls him. Yeah, it's like with cops. If 566 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: you ask them, are you a cop? They have to say, 567 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: and they have to tell you if they worship Satan. Yeah, exactly, 568 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: both of those things are true about cops. So uh. 569 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: Less than a week before I wrote this article, in 570 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: September of two thousand nineteen, Bill Mitchell started trying to 571 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: sell Trump branded bullets to his four Twitter phone. He 572 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: retweeted a link to the Republican Legions store selling Punisher 573 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: Trump branded nine millimeter hollow points. He wrote, retweet if 574 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: you believe in the Second Amendment and the right to 575 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: bear arms. Right above a picture of the box, which 576 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: of course features a punish your skull with Donald Trump's 577 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: wig atop it. It's Donald Trump has ever fired a 578 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: gun in his life? I kind of doubt it. I 579 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: think he would be frightened and confused. Like, yeah, that's like, 580 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: that's like a picture of Louis Farrick, Louis Farrick Caannon 581 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: and just being like, retweet if you think black people 582 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: should be equal. Yeah, it's amazing. Um, the actual like 583 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: tweet itself. Like in the link to the store, you 584 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: can see, like the first few words available in the 585 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: store's website are, if you want to ensure your Second 586 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: Amendment rights remain intact, you're gonna need some ammunition, which 587 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: is not at all a call for violence. Boy, Now, 588 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: this was a clear violation of Twitter's terms of service, 589 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: since you aren't allowed to sell firearms and ammo via 590 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: the site. But more to the point, it seems to 591 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: be a pretty fucking clear call on Bill's part towards 592 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: violence against the president's enemies. That Republican Legion websites selling 593 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: the Bullet States America is on the verge of another 594 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: civil war and warns that conservatives are facing economic terrorism 595 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: from the left. Now that website Republican Legion is registered 596 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: to a guy named Richard Granville. Y'all, y'all know who 597 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: Richard Granville is. Yes, he is the CEO of Yippie 598 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: dot Com. He sure is. It's also Bill Mitchell's boss. Now. 599 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 1: Um See, while that sweet deal working for Jared Kushner 600 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: never quite worked out, Bill was hired by Granville's company, Yippie, 601 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: which bills itself is essentially a conservative alternative to Google. Um, 602 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: and this gig that Bill has now is evidence that 603 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: Mitchell has fully embraced the tactic of shamelessly grifting his 604 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: audience for as much cash as he can convince them 605 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: to fork over those stupid Trump branded bullets, for instance, 606 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: cost for fifty rounds of nine millimeter, which is two 607 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: to three times as expensive as comparative like high end ammunition, 608 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: and like five times as expensive as like just normal 609 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: rounds of nine millimeter like I get him for like 610 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: eight or nine bucks for a box of fifty for 611 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: target rounds like ridiculously overpriced just ice cube. Leaning in, well, 612 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: it appears this man just wanted to make America great again. 613 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah so uh in selling Donald Trump bullets is actually 614 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: one of the least grifty things Mitchell has gotten involved 615 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: with over the last year. In May of two thousand nineteen, 616 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: he started to go fund me, saying he wanted to 617 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: move his online show to Washington, d C, so he 618 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: could talk with movers and shakers of the conservative movement 619 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. This is his best thing he's 620 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: ever done. I love this so much. It's it's kind 621 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: of brilliant. The money was billed as covering moving costs 622 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: and helping him set up a high end studio in 623 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: d C. On May six, he tweeted, this, one great 624 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: thing about living in d C will be that all 625 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: my political friends from around the country all eventually go there, 626 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: so I get to see everyone. Smiley face. Now, Bill 627 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: came very close to his fifteen thousand dollar fundraising goal. 628 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: He made fourteen thousand, two hundred and eighty dollars, and 629 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: then rather than moving to d C, he moved to 630 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: Miami instead. Fucking, king, king, king legend. That's an incredible grift. Yeah, Well, 631 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: to be fair, those seven hundred extra dollars would have 632 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: made the difference. M Yeah, everyone knows it takes fifteen 633 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: grand exactly to move to Washington, d C. Yeah, and 634 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: any anything less you you're trying to get to d C, 635 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: but you somehow just end up in Florida. It's like 636 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: the prices, It's like the price is right if you 637 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: overshoot him back too, you know, yeah, yeah, overshoot you 638 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: end up in New York, like yeah, yeah, So Bill 639 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: winds up in Miami and many of Bill's friends other 640 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: conservative pundits attacked him for this. The right wing internet 641 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: descended on Bill Mitchell to accuse him of grifting his fans. 642 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: For his part, Bill expressed no contrition. I think he 643 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: never explicitly. He's totally shaved about this. Like again, he's 644 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: he's as consistent about not giving a funk that he 645 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: grifted his fans as he was about claiming Trump was 646 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: going to win the election. So at least, like he 647 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: goes whole hog on all this ship. And he's a 648 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: fucking business guy. Like you think you think he could 649 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: just not take the fifteen k, like it just destroys 650 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: his reputation for fifteen k, Like you think he has 651 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: a bit more disposable cometan he could just return that 652 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: money and be like, sorry, guys, I'm going to Florida. Julian. 653 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: He sat there in front of his computer watching that 654 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: little green bar just freeze at, you know, just sweat, 655 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: and he just watching watching ethereum crash. He's like, fuck me, 656 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to keep these fifteen Huh. Miami's looking 657 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: pretty good, boys. Yeah. Well, to be fair, he he 658 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: fucking went to Washington, d C. To like try to 659 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: find a home. He tried the coke and he was like, 660 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 1: fuck this, boys, I'm going to Miami. Ye yeah, yeah, 661 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: that's actually really close to what Bill claims. So he 662 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: claimed he never explicitly said on the go fund me 663 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: that this was for a move to d C, even 664 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: though he tweeted constantly about that being the reason for 665 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: the go fund me, and so since she hadn't written 666 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: that into the go fund me itself, it was fine 667 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: for him to use the money for whatever the funk 668 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: he wanted. When other conservatives dragged him on Twitter, he 669 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: justified his decision by pointing out that Miami has better 670 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: weather than d C. DC gets maybe four nice months 671 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: a year, Miami gets ten, for sake. Yes, yes, yes, yes, 672 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: mem You're completely correct, yeah, you kind of have to 673 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: love that. Um, I don't know that just like shameless 674 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: level stealing from your fans. Yeah, just just total contempt 675 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: for the people who support you. I mean, I mean they, 676 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean, like all the sort of like the grifters 677 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 1: have it, but to this level where you just take 678 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: money for one thing and just not do it all 679 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: and just say fuck you and just walk away with 680 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: the cash and you still like a public figure. Yeah, 681 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: he's a king. Absolutely, it's an an Actually, I'm not kidding. 682 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: It makes me happy to think of this, Like, I 683 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: fucking love him for this. I think he's a positive 684 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: force on the in the universe. More people on the 685 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: right should take k to destroy their own reputation. Absolutely, Uh, 686 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: it's it's It's just beautiful. Um. And I have no 687 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: doubt that Bill spending it on a combination of nose 688 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: candy and cryptocurrency is a better use for the money 689 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 1: than I don't know, his fans buying more Trump branded 690 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: bullets with it. If you unscrew the top of the bullet, 691 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: there's a special holder for your cocaine. Are you suggesting, sir, 692 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: that Bill Mitchell has gotten into brown round round round? Yeah? No, no, no, no, no, no. 693 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: If I apologize, I take it back. I kind of 694 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: think he might be um Now. Bill also claimed that, 695 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: for reasons he could not divulge, being based out of 696 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: Miami would actually be better for his political journalism than 697 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: being based in d C. He tweeted, this is a 698 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: much better location for the show, based upon too many 699 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: reasons to explain. Here, better studio, much better distribution, far 700 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: far more reach, much more influenced. Wasn't even a close call. 701 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: This is the MAGA spot. But yeah, he's sucking right, 702 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: He's sucking right. Trump made maral Lago. It's more central 703 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: to the fucking country than washing the DC White House. Yeah, 704 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: you you can't say he's entirely off base in that, 705 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: even though he is absolutely grifting his followers. Him and 706 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein knew that this was a better place to 707 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: own a mansion. Jeffstein um Now in another defensive tweet, 708 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 1: They'll explained, during my work to relocate to d C 709 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: several trips, I was made an offer which will position 710 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: me to literally change the social media experience for everyone 711 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: in the Trump family. That's exciting, isn't it. Yeah? You 712 00:39:51,560 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: know what else is exciting? What God motherfucking pivots. This 713 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: is how I griffed my audience. So if you want 714 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: to buy some I don't know, Nancy Pelosi themed bullets, 715 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: that might be the next ad, although almost certainly not 716 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: daily cost just drops off bullets. It's just it's hard 717 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: to make a good punisher skull out of her hairstyle. Um. 718 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, there's the marketing team's really had trouble. Um. 719 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: Oddly enough, the Bernie Sanders m O sells incredibly well. Um, 720 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: but yeah, there you go, so products we're back now. Uh. 721 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: That offer, which Bill claimed was going to completely change 722 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: the social media experience of the entire Trump family was 723 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: his new job with Yippie, And so far the search 724 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: engine has had zero discernible impact on the social media 725 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: experience of the Trump family or the whier Internet. Uh. 726 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: In fact, it's kind of hard to even figure out 727 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: how to search with Yippi. Um, Like, it's not like 728 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: using yandek. There's something where you just like type it 729 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: in like it's it's it seems to be a pain 730 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: in the ass. Um they're gonna look back on this 731 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: era and be like Dan, it was crazy to watch 732 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: the two the two, uh, the two big entities. The 733 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: two titans, Yippie and Bing go head to head. Hippie 734 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: is so small that even Bing gets to make fun 735 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: of it. Um and and Bing is just three guys 736 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: in a basement in Redmond crying most of the day. 737 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: Uh yeah now um. Back in August, Bill Mitchell was 738 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: briefly booked to be a speaker at the Digital Soldiers Conference, 739 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: a one day Q and AN event that was supposed 740 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: to be held in Atlanta this September. It was Bill 741 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: I P R I P. It was billed as an 742 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: event to help organize patriotic social media warriors for a 743 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: digital civil war against censorship and suppression. Event was organized 744 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: by Bill's boss, Richard Granville, who firmly denied the event 745 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: was in any way tied to Q and ON, despite 746 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: the fact that the logo for the event was literally 747 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: an American flag with all of the stars shaped into 748 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: a giant Grandville, we want our fucking thousand dollars back 749 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: for our fucking plane tickets, asshole. Did you actually book 750 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: plane tickets for that thing? No? Good, we did, we did, 751 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: we did, solid Griffin. Wow, Well, I hear Atlanta's lovely 752 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: in September Now, Grandville claimed that the three stars making 753 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: up q's tail were actually a reference to Michael Flynn, 754 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: a three star general, and had nothing to do with 755 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: Q at on, which is solid lie man. The file 756 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: name on that image was Q dash flag dot j peg. Amazing, amazing. Yes, 757 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: and I've heard, I've heard the three stars stand for 758 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: the Holy Trinity. Yeah, what are those again? Jake, the Father, 759 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 1: the Son, and the Holy Ghost? Yeah you did, except 760 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: isn't it Holy Spirit? Holy Ghost? Like a Catholic boy gratulation, 761 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: Good job money, You're not Jewish anymore now. Thankfully that 762 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: event was canceled, and as of late, Bill seems to 763 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: be making a moderately concerted effort to slightly distance himself 764 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 1: from the Q movement. This may have something to do 765 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: with all of the mash shooting. Spawn by eight Chance, 766 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: the website which also hosted the Q research board. On 767 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: September eighteenth, Bill tweeted this, The media loves to say 768 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: I'm this big que and on guy, I'm really not. 769 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't follow QUE post regularly and never have. I 770 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: agree with their premise that we should trust the plan. 771 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: Is it mirrors slow walker? Hashtag slow walker in many 772 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: ways and the Q people, I actually know love Trump. 773 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: That's it. But you literally cannot read a media article 774 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: about me that doesn't begin Bill Mitchell major Q and 775 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: on conspiracy theorist. It's comical because it's such bullshit. Q 776 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: does Q I do me? Now? Have y'all ever heard 777 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: of hashtag slow walker? Yes? Yes, I actually have not 778 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: tell me about this. Slow Walker is essentially Bill Mitchell's 779 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: bargain basement rip off of Q and on. Uh. It's 780 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: it's him trying to make his own Q and ON. 781 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: The basic idea is that Trump and Jeff Sessions were 782 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,439 Speaker 1: putting together a slow, deliberate plan to unravel the deep state, 783 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: and originally Bill thought this was all going to come 784 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: to fruition. During the mid terms, he came to have 785 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: come up with this idea via quote the holmesy and 786 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: method of deduction. I do believe he was smoking a 787 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: pipe of some sort when he came up with this idea, 788 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: but I don't think it was tobacco. Now, when the 789 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: mid terms came and went and Jeff Sessions left, you 790 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: may have expected Bill to have pulled back from his 791 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: pet conspiracy theory. If so, you don't know Bill Mitchell. 792 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: He never pulls back from any theory, and early September 793 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, he quote tweeted President Trump, absolutely nothing 794 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: is more important than going back and getting to the 795 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: bottom of the origins of the investigation. We had an 796 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: administration using America's spying apparatus to spy on a political 797 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 1: opponent at the height of a presidential election, so Mitchell says, 798 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: to this, President Trump says, the Muller investigation was one 799 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: of my great achievements. And then he says this, I mean, 800 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: could he foreshadow the closing act of this hashtag slow 801 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: walker play any harder? Buckle up, Democrats? It gets rough 802 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: from here. Based upon this statement, I am now more 803 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: convinced that hashtag slow walker and hashtag trust the Plan 804 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: are a hundred percent real. Else why would Trump call 805 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: the in Mueller investigation his greatest achievement? Yeah that's it. Uh. 806 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: Jold Cola tastes really good as well as Coca cola. Yeah, 807 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: it's amazing. Uh, It's just amazing. Now. There really is 808 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: so much more I could say about Bill Mitchell, but 809 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: I feel like the right place to end this little 810 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: rite up is by discussing what I think maybe his 811 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: very worst take of all time, which is There's a 812 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: lot of competition for that, but this one is just 813 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: staggeringly good. Back in February of this year, on an 814 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: episode of Your Voice America, Bill declared that racism was 815 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: not a huge problem in America and said white privilege 816 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: does not exist. Out He wasn't just saying that out 817 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: of his ass. He had evidence for this statement, and 818 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: his evidence was this deeply compelling anecdote about something he'd 819 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: experienced that very weekend quote. I stopped by the grocery 820 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: store and did some grocery shopping. I went around, did 821 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: some various things, drove around in the car, so far 822 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: and so forth, interacted with people. I saw Black Americans, 823 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: I saw Hispanic Americans, I saw Asian Americans. And you 824 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: know what I didn't see all day, not once, not 825 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: one time, racism. I saw no racism. I saw no 826 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: black people being asked to get in the back of 827 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: the line. I saw no Hispanic people being denied service. 828 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 1: I saw no racism anywhere. You know why, because racism 829 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: is not a huge problem in America today, I'm sure 830 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: some liberals heads are exploding, asking how could Bill Mitchell 831 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: say that racism is not a huge problem in America? 832 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying it. Racism is not a huge problem in America. 833 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: They talk about white privilege. I'm still waiting to be 834 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: able to cash in on my white privilege. Where is it. 835 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten anything in life that I didn't work 836 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: hard for when I go to check in the Yeah, 837 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: it's fun, grand piece of ship, guys, Guys, I think 838 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: this is a clear example of blues clusion deduction. I 839 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: mean he did he tweeted two hundred and seventy times 840 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: a day to get that fifteen grand Yeah. His fingers 841 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: are just a pulp. Uh. And that is my write 842 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: up of Bill Mitchell. Beautiful stuff. Wow, he is such 843 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: a beautiful boy. Yeah, he's an incredible piece of shit. 844 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I what what stuns me most about is 845 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: like he was trying to deny that he is a 846 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: q and on guy. I mean he interviewed Praying Medic 847 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: on his show. Yeah, you don't get more que and 848 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: on than that, and he's basically come up with this 849 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: like bullshit, like parallel theory that's exactly the same where 850 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: he's like he's like que and on a little too obscure, 851 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: and and then he comes up with kind of like 852 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: a like an off brand Stephen King novel sort of 853 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: title like slow Walker, Like it's just the unbelievable bullshit. Yeah, 854 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty it's pretty amazing. Um, I like, I 855 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: don't even know what else to say. Uh that that's 856 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: all I've got on fucking Bill Mitchell. Um, you know 857 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: I think that it's really it's Bill Mitchell is like 858 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, the the election of President Donald Trump was 859 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: like it was like this. It was like the lamentation 860 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: or the lament configuration was like solved and released all 861 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: of these demons into the media world. And Bill Mitchell 862 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: just one of those demons that are just still with us. Yeah, 863 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 1: we opened Pandora's box and Bill Mitchell bled out into 864 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 1: the reality, and now we can't get rid of him 865 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:43,240 Speaker 1: until we build some sort of Ghostbusters like device back. Dude, 866 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 1: I was literally I was literally about to make a 867 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 1: reference of the roof of the firehouse blowing off after 868 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: after Walter Peck shuts down. Then I was literally about 869 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: I was waiting for everybody stopped talking to make a 870 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: Ghostbusters reference. You were gonna make a references your favorite movie? 871 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: We are spirits, my friend, we both thought about Ghostbusters 872 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: at the same time. We both love Bill Mitchell and 873 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:15,479 Speaker 1: fucking James Comey is absolutely Walter Pett doubt in my mind, 874 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: also not at doubt in my mind that he has 875 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: no dick. This man has no dick. Oh boy, alright, guys, 876 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 1: well that's the behind the bastard portion of this, this 877 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: wonderful hybrid episode. Shall we move on to the Q 878 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 1: and On Anonymous portion? Yes? Absolutely, that was incredible. Jake 879 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: is about to take you down a notch. Oh boy, 880 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: are we doing the story now? All right, let's do it. Jesus, 881 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: Jesus God. All right, well, let's explain what this is 882 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: for my listeners who may not have listened to Q 883 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: and On Anonymous yet, but hopefully we'll be soon. Yeah. 884 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: So Jake writes these radio plays. Now, I'm sure he 885 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: would say that their masterpieces. They are in fact, just 886 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: the mented product of a rotting mind. But they make 887 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: us all giggle a lot. Yeah. I tend to usually 888 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: write them, but like two or three in the morning, 889 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: like Julian texted me yesterday and he was like, hey, man, 890 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: do you think we could lay the story into the document, 891 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: So so Robert can take a look at it before 892 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: we kick off tomorrow. And I was like, oh, it 893 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: won't be complete until three thirty four possibly am in 894 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: the morning. And in your defense, I absolutely did not 895 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: read it. Uh, it was good busy doing dangerous drugs 896 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: last night. That's good. No, it's it's actually better for 897 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: everybody if nobody knows what's coming in the story. It's 898 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: been The only really advantage that I have is the 899 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: element of surprise. Yeah. Yeah, I feel the same way 900 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: about my episodes. I didn't. I wanted to drop that 901 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 1: Bill Mitchell selling bullets. Oh my god, she was amazing. Well, 902 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: what's great actually is is some of the very things 903 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: you've touched on in your portion make an appearance in 904 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: this story in one way or another. So, without further ado, Uh, 905 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: let's do it. Yeah, what's the name of the story. 906 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,439 Speaker 1: The title of this story is called the Third Meme 907 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: War Wish Jesus Christ, Jake Rapatanski, and Robert Evans. It's 908 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: good job weight on that the food War. I say again, God, yeah, 909 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: Robert is not responsible for this word. Yeah, Robert has 910 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 1: nothing to do with this. I did not ask him 911 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: if any of this was okay. He has he is 912 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: free to delete it from any portion of his program. 913 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: The groan of the heavy doors on the forty seven 914 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: woke Evans up from a shallow slumber. Based on the 915 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: flaming projectiles rocketing past the windows, he knew they were close. 916 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: The hull of the aircraft shuttered as he watched the 917 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 1: soldiers on board check and double check their gear. It 918 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: was the third Meme war in about as many years, 919 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: a war Evans would rather not have covered, but here 920 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: he was watching Agent Postso and his ragtag group of 921 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 1: wife and child strap pandola's with air paybies to their 922 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: flat jack. Forgive me, forgive me, Robert, Robert, Hey Bill Mitchell. 923 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: I'll be your your handler. Once we hit the beach, 924 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: stick with me and you'll you'll, you'll taste that, the sweet, 925 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 1: sweet smell of exercising your god given first Amendment freedom 926 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,919 Speaker 1: of speech. Mitchell leaned his head back and clucked towards 927 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: the ceiling of the helicopter. Evan's heart sunk into the 928 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,240 Speaker 1: bottom of his chest. Should have stayed in fucking Iraq, 929 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: Evans muttered under his breath. Mitchell busied himself trying to 930 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: load a large spy gate infographic into a giant bazooka. 931 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: He wasn't having much success. Evans led on an audible side. 932 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: He should have never taken a gig. Everyone warned him 933 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 1: not to, but somebody was paying big money to make 934 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: a three and sixty degree documentary of the third memor. 935 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: Evans had initially thought the job was a hoax, since 936 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: memes are usually most effective in two D, but after 937 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: the first check cleared, he didn't ask any questions. Sometimes 938 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: you take the job, sometimes you take the paycheck. Plus, 939 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 1: the Digital Soldiers were up against the seemingly unstoppable yet 940 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: fascinating foe. They called them the Shadow Bands. The Shadow 941 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,959 Speaker 1: Bands had emerged from caverns deep within the earth around 942 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: November of large amalgamust creatures set to transcend time and space. 943 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: No one knew how many there were, or if they 944 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: could be stopped at all. In three years, the best 945 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 1: the Digital Soldiers could do was attempt to fire their 946 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: memes past the creatures. With patients and good aim, they 947 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: had a chance at hitting a normy and red peeling them. 948 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: Evans looked down at this small recorder in his hand. 949 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: He pressed the small circular button and watched the levels 950 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: begin to jump across the small orange screen. He extended 951 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: his arm in Mitchell's direction. So what is it you're 952 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,919 Speaker 1: hoping to accomplish here today? Evans asked, Ah, Well, you see, 953 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: I got all these spygate posters, epic Times, that fantastic content. 954 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: General Vander Steel needs these memes to go viral. Charlie 955 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 1: Companies trying to get it trending on Twitter, and we'll 956 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: be at the shores of Reddit in uh. He glanced 957 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: at his wrist, although as far as Evans could tell, 958 00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 1: Mitchell wasn't wearing a watch. Eighteen hundred hours, Mitchell quipped, happily, 959 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: he looked like a child who had been told that 960 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 1: he could pick out He looked like a child who 961 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: had been told he could pick out one toy toys 962 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: r us melting crying, Evan's watched. He stuffed a handful 963 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 1: of NPC memes into his pockets, just in case Mitchell shouted. 964 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 1: A giant explosion rocked the helicopter. Evan shielded his eyes 965 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: a blinding spout of light or through the damage. Shall 966 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 1: soldiers shrieked if they were sucked out into the soft 967 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: orange clouds. Evan scripts recorded tight eyes wide as he 968 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 1: watched Agent posts. So abandoned his family and checked himself 969 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 1: from the rear of theall We've got a drop now, 970 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: Mitchell screamed, before snorting a giant rail of cocaine off 971 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: the back of his hand. He clipped a large metal 972 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 1: hook through a tether on Evan's utility belt, and then 973 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: they were in the air. It was chaos. Smoldering projectile 974 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: sit by them as they tumbled through the air. See 975 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,760 Speaker 1: it's a real war, Mitchell called out, as nearby soldiers, 976 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 1: also in freefall, made high speed contact with debris and shrapnel. 977 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 1: What screamed to perplex Evans was this motherfucker really trying 978 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 1: to argue? Some point. As the pair hurtled towards a 979 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 1: war zone on some god forsaken message board, Bill Mitchell 980 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 1: was no longer paying attention to him. Instead, he held 981 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: his phone out in the air, playing that Your Voice 982 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 1: America theme song as loud as the volume would go. 983 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: Evan's stomach heaved as the jolt from the parachute shook 984 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,280 Speaker 1: its way through his bones. He gripped the ropes tightly 985 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: and watched the ground rush towards him an alarming speed. 986 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: The impact wasn't as bad as he had feared. The 987 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 1: shock from the descent made it hard to process anything really. 988 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: All around him, soldiers were hurling themselves through sands, firing 989 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: off golden papers. Automatic downvote fire ricocheted off the ground 990 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: beneath him. A hand reached out and grabbed his shoulder 991 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: and spun him around. It was Mitchell. He was screaming 992 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 1: in Evans's face, but he couldn't hear a word. Mitchell's 993 00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: breath smelled like cocaine goldfish crackers for really. His ears 994 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: began to adjust and the sounds of the battlefield came 995 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: into focus. Do you want some cocaine? Mitchell yelled, but 996 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 1: before Evans could answer, the sand beneath their feet began 997 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 1: to quake. Waterfalls of sand poured into the ground under them, 998 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: and a giant, shimmery creature on six legs scuttled to 999 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,760 Speaker 1: its feet, towering over the two men. Evans froze shut open. 1000 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: Mitchell yelled. A couple of soldiers nearby concentrated poorly written 1001 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 1: complaints towards the monster. When a handful of them made contact, 1002 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,720 Speaker 1: Evan watched this. Their petty strong man arguments were absorbed 1003 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: directly into the monster's galactic looking skin. Mitchell ran right 1004 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 1: towards the creature. This is very unfair. The creature immediately 1005 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: shredded Mitchell in too a thousand pieces. Evans stared at 1006 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 1: the back. Evans stared at the blood soaked sand where 1007 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,280 Speaker 1: Mitchell was standing just a moment ago, as the monster 1008 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 1: approached him, tentacles rippling, then blackness. The groan of the 1009 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 1: heavy doors on the forty seven woke Evan's up from 1010 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: michelle slumber. This time, he shot up and clutched his chest, 1011 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: fighting for quick, shallow rez. The hull of the aircraft 1012 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 1: shuttered as he watched the soldiers on board check and 1013 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 1: double checked their gear. You're okay, familiar voice piped out. 1014 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: It was Mitchell again, struggling with the oversized spike. Infographic 1015 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: agent Posto and his ragtag group of wife and child 1016 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: again strapped Bandola's with rare paypaste in their flat jackets. 1017 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: Evans couldn't believe it. We're staring at the surprisingly handsome 1018 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 1: man with thick, silvery hair, who moments ago had just 1019 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: been turned to pulp right before his eyes. Evans looked 1020 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: down at the small recorder in his hand. He pressed 1021 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: the circular button and watched the levels begin to jump 1022 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 1: on the orange screen. He extended his arm in Mitchell's 1023 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: direction again, his hand shaking a little. So, Bill, are 1024 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: you afraid of dying today? Evans asked, Bill, stop fiddling 1025 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: with the memes. He thought, long and hard. Let me 1026 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: tell you someone, Look, here's the deal. At one point 1027 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: in my life, yes, I might have feared debt, But Son, 1028 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,439 Speaker 1: believe me what I tell you that that went away 1029 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 1: the day that Donald J. Trump might bread that it 1030 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: was elected into office. He is an extra celestial angel 1031 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: who will ride down on a cloud of matter and 1032 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: and carry my wounded soul directly into the arms of 1033 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ himself, and I will sing with the angels 1034 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 1: and kings from now until he turnity. A giant explosion 1035 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: rocked the helicopter. Evan shielded his eyes again as a 1036 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: blinding spout of light poured in through the damaged hull. 1037 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: Soldiers shrieked as they were sucked out in the soft 1038 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,479 Speaker 1: orange clouds. Evanscript is recorded tight eyes wide, has watched 1039 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: agent posts, so once again abandoned his family and eject 1040 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: himself from the rear of the helicopter. It was all 1041 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: the same as before the free fall the parachute the 1042 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: battlefield like a bad case at Desia. Who again the 1043 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: shadow Band emerged from the blood soaked sands. Evans watched 1044 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: his Mitchell once again attempted to argue with the creature. 1045 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: Kevan snapped too, No, no, it kills you, he shouted 1046 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,439 Speaker 1: towards Mitchell. Instinctively, Evan sprang to his feet and hooked 1047 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: a hand under one of Mitchell's elbows, dragging him away 1048 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 1: from the creature, who had turned its focus on other 1049 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: nearby soldiers trying to drop moebs into our politics. Evans 1050 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: and Mitchell duck behind the wreckage of falling craft. Much 1051 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: of the hull was still intact and made for some 1052 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: good cover. Mitchell seemed perturbed, What are you doing? I 1053 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 1: was fully ready to sacrifice myself to the shadow Band 1054 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 1: so that other conservative minded figures would be able to 1055 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 1: post these very educational epic Times infographics were even links 1056 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: to some of our most popular y v A episodes. 1057 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: Evans stuck into his pocket and produced a crumpled pack 1058 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: of cigarettes. He pinched one in between his teeth and 1059 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: pulled it out of the package. Unable to find his lighter, 1060 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 1: Evans held a cigarette next to a smoldering piece of 1061 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 1: melting steel and puffed until the cherry glowed read. He 1062 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: exhaled deeply and glanced increduously at Mitchell. So what's the 1063 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: deal with that? The whole falloon gong thing, Mitchell smiled wide. 1064 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: Fallon God is the deal. It's the deal for everything. 1065 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 1: Just then, a group of Normies ran past the wreckage, 1066 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 1: not noticing Mitchell. He sprang to his feet. Wait wait, 1067 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 1: he shouted. The three turned around, not sure what to 1068 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: make of this middle aged limo driver looking guy aiming 1069 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: a large Mazuka directly at them. The original contents streaked 1070 00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: through the air and deployed a couple of inches from 1071 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 1: the Normies, reflecting a soft blue glow off their stunned faces. 1072 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 1: But the hell is this ship? Yeah, of course our 1073 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: law enforcement agencies are corrupt, But the fact that these 1074 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 1: people think Trump's the solution fucking blows my mind. This 1075 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: is a very informative graphic. The three wandered away, heading 1076 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 1: towards various sub credits. What out of three eight bad? 1077 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 1: Mitchell shouted as he shimmied his shoulders and going. In particular, 1078 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 1: his nervous energy was giving Evans the fear. Come on, 1079 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Mitchell yelled, We're not too far from the rally point camp. 1080 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: Donald will regroup there, Evans gathered himself slowly death by 1081 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: shadow bands. Seemed preferable to spending any amount of time 1082 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: in the Donald, but with nowhere else to go, he 1083 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: began to reluctantly follow Bill off the beach. Come on, slow, both, 1084 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm four times your age and I'm moving way faster 1085 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: than you. Bill smirked. Evans blinked in a similar manner 1086 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 1: to a popular meme, what are you like A hundred yes, yes. 1087 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 1: Mitchell kiggled his face resembling a plastic jackal lantern. Evans 1088 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: rolled his eyes. Well, you're on a lot of cocaine, 1089 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 1: Mitchell's lit off. That reminds me, he squawked. He reached 1090 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 1: into one of the vest pockets and produced a rather 1091 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 1: large baggy of cocaine. Come on, man, lamented Evans, but 1092 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 1: it was no use, Mitchell lendo. Mitchell, Oh god, dude, 1093 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: his face exploded. He's gonna cry that, I wrote. He's 1094 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: gonna cry again Mitchell. Mitchell leaned over and picked up 1095 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 1: a large seashell and used it to scoop a healthy 1096 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 1: portion of cocaine out of the bag. He then lifted 1097 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: the shell to his nose and inhaled deeply. At first 1098 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 1: a look of pure ecstasy rushed across his face, but 1099 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: it quickly turned to horror. Mitchell Clutch, Just Mitchell Clutch, 1100 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: just Jez too much cocaine. He collapsed face first into 1101 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 1: the sand, dead. Before Evans could even process what he 1102 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 1: had witnessed, let alone comprehend that he'd also recorded it, 1103 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: all of it in three hundred and sixty degrees. A 1104 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: small platoon was on him. Hey, this guy killed Captain 1105 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Bill Hey. Hands where I can see him? Evans calmly 1106 01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 1: tried to explain to the frightened soldiers what had happened. Look, 1107 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: I I didn't touch him at all. He overdosed on drugs. 1108 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 1: Check his pockets. But the guys weren't even listening. They 1109 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: had their rifles raised, their trigger, fingers shaking. Come on, Chad, 1110 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 1: let's ducks this fool many killed Bill Fine, let's waste 1111 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: them blocking. The gunshots seemed to echo off into eternity, 1112 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: then blackness. The groan of the heavy doors on the 1113 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 1: c H forty seven woke even stopped from a shallow slumber. 1114 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: The hull of the aircraft shuttered as he watched the 1115 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 1: soldiers off board check and double check their gear. You okay. 1116 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 1: Familiar voice piped up. It was Mitchell again, struggling with 1117 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: the oversized spy Gate infographic. Evan's mind raced, his eyes 1118 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 1: darted around the hull of the forty seven Again. He 1119 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 1: watched his agent posts so asked his wife to take 1120 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,920 Speaker 1: a picture of him holding a gun. Before Evans realized it, 1121 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 1: he was shouting above the roar of the churning rotors. 1122 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: We got aboard, We're about to get ahead. Mitchell and 1123 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 1: Posto looked at him like he was crazy. Evans decided 1124 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 1: to go for broke. Look, I'm living to stay over 1125 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 1: and over again. At first I thought maybe it was 1126 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 1: a dream or some ship, but it's not. It's exactly 1127 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: like Groundhog Day, Holiday, asked Bill Mitchell. Evans looked exasperated. No, 1128 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: the Bill Murray movie. Have you not seen it? All 1129 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: three shook their heads. No, Evans real What about Edge 1130 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 1: of Tomorrow with Tom Cruise? Have you seen that? All 1131 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: three nodded excitedly, muttering praises of the film and cruises 1132 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 1: natural knack for comedy. Boom, A giant explosion rocked the helicopter. 1133 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: Evans shielded his eyes. His blinding spout of light poured 1134 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 1: in through the damaged hull. Soldiers shrieked as they were 1135 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 1: stoped out in the clouds. Evan scripted his recorder tight 1136 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,479 Speaker 1: as he watched Agent Posto abandoned his family the third 1137 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: time and eject himself from the rear of the helicopter. 1138 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Everything was the same, but different. This time. Evans moved 1139 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: with ease, With one hand on the camera and one 1140 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: planet firmly on Mitchell's shoulder. He guided them past the 1141 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: roving shadow bands and armies of thoughts armed to the 1142 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: teeth with Russian propaganda. It was the perfect take. After 1143 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,120 Speaker 1: some time, Mitchell and Evans arrived at Camp Underscore. Donald 1144 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 1: Evans immediately noticed the three young soldiers who had murdered 1145 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 1: him just moments ago. They were quietly stacking boxes of 1146 01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,919 Speaker 1: ammunition with Sunday Gunday pictures and build a Wall memes. 1147 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Mitchell was yammering on excitedly. So you see the fallon 1148 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,920 Speaker 1: Gung religion. The human soul can actually and I know 1149 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: this sound unbelievable, but I've seen it. It could travel 1150 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: back in time and inhabit the consciousness of its past self. 1151 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 1: But short of a cosmic loophole, if you will Kevans 1152 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: slumped down next to a pile of coats and bricks 1153 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: and lit up a cigarette. Mitchell sat down next to you. 1154 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe that's what's happening to you. The same 1155 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 1: thing happened to me a couple of months ago. Except 1156 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 1: for me, I had to relive a torid love affair 1157 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 1: with and and vander Steel for through three whole days 1158 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 1: in a hotel room. Evan's unscrewed his camera from its mount. 1159 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 1: He reached in his bag and pulled out a dusty laptop. 1160 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 1: He began to scrub through. The footage came out perfect, 1161 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: spicy memes streaking across the chaotic beach as digital soldiers 1162 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: were picked off in the dozens by large shape shifting 1163 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 1: creatures rat All of a sudden, a voice shouted, throwing 1164 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 1: the entire camp in a panic strike. Everyone ran for cover, 1165 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: ducking into large tub skilled with videos of Joe Biden 1166 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 1: touching young girls, climate change denial flags, and large wooden 1167 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 1: crates bursting with vaguely anti semitic grounds. From behind a tent, 1168 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Evans watched as a large bomber flown by Seth Abramson 1169 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 1: rained down a four hundred and thirty seventh thread tweet storm. 1170 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: The digital soldiers watched in horror. As the norm He's 1171 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: wrapped their arms around the tweets and proudly showed them 1172 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 1: to their friends. In the distance, the shadow bands were 1173 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 1: spinning rapidly toward the camp that Donald had become overrun. 1174 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: The last thing Evans saw was Bill Mitchell holding his 1175 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 1: phone to his ear, trying to listen to Your Voice 1176 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 1: America theme song one last time. However, the signal wasn't great, 1177 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 1: and it appeared that Mitchell's fine off leisure would be 1178 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: plagued by buffering issues. Blackness, the growing of the computer 1179 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 1: fans woke Evan's up from his deep slumber. He glanced 1180 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 1: around his apartment. His eyes landed on the digital clock 1181 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 1: displayed near the bottom of his laptop screen. Three am. Ship. 1182 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: It was way too late. He had record some weird 1183 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 1: Q and on podcasts at eleven am. That was only 1184 01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 1: six hours from now. He glanced down at the key 1185 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 1: word he had dozed off with his hand pressed firmly 1186 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 1: on the mouse pad on the screen. Www dot Reddit 1187 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 1: dot com was refreshing over and over and over again. 1188 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: The end just you've outdone yourself. It's beautiful. I say again, God, Yeah, 1189 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 1: what a TRAVISI what a Travis underscore views? What the 1190 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: Travis under score views. I do always like hearing the 1191 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 1: phrase spicy means, especially when I've turned them into some 1192 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: sort of ammunition is to be. And Evans was definitely 1193 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 1: the one who you know, fell asleep at his keyboard 1194 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 1: last night at three am trying to trying to write 1195 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 1: something for today's podcast. There's always looked, there's always a 1196 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,400 Speaker 1: little bit of truth and everything that I write. You know, Robert, 1197 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: you are the first non qa A host to play somebody, 1198 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 1: let alone yourself in one of Jake's stories. How does 1199 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 1: it feel? Uh, it feels like being Tom cruise Um, 1200 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 1: which feels vaguely like living inside of a carburetor. Yeah, 1201 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,560 Speaker 1: that's that's how I would describe it. Yeah, Well, we 1202 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: look forward to your appearance on Oprah where you you know, 1203 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 1: jump to your feet on a couch and try to 1204 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 1: explain foulon gong to the audience. I'm looking forward to 1205 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 1: that too. Actually, Travis, you have some serious questions that 1206 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 1: you wanted to uh, you know, your head with your 1207 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,840 Speaker 1: friend Robert. Yeah, I want to ask about how you 1208 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:43,720 Speaker 1: covered the the Portland, Oregon protests and counter protests last 1209 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 1: month on August seventeen, what was the qul On presence. 1210 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 1: They're like, you know, this was the first one of 1211 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 1: whom I actually saw some I think because it was 1212 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,959 Speaker 1: a larger demonstration. But there were a number of people 1213 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 1: with Q and on shirts and several Q and on 1214 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 1: uh signs. There was a guy with a Q and 1215 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 1: on patch on his body armor. Um. Yeah, Yeah, there 1216 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: was definitely a lot of people trusting the plan there 1217 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,680 Speaker 1: that day. You think there's any cross poll nation between 1218 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 1: q and On and other sort of broad sort of 1219 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 1: like a far right kind of organizations or movements, Yeah, 1220 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,560 Speaker 1: it kind of depends. I think that the the the 1221 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,960 Speaker 1: actual like neo Nazi and fascist far right tends to 1222 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: view the Q and honors is goofy, kind of like 1223 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:27,679 Speaker 1: cannon fodder. Um, Like they're they're they're just they're they're 1224 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 1: not thought of highly Yeah, but there's also this kind 1225 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,680 Speaker 1: of understanding that they're kind of useful idiots, and some 1226 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 1: of them can be uh, I don't know the term 1227 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,680 Speaker 1: they use as usually like jew pilled or something like that, 1228 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,640 Speaker 1: convinced that this deep state is really just the collective 1229 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 1: Jewish race. Um. So there's that sort of attitude. Uh, 1230 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 1: there's also this like, yeah, it's generally pretty dismissive. And 1231 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot more CUE believers among like 1232 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 1: the the Proud Boy Patriot Prayer set, because they're sort 1233 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 1: of less uh less into the Nazi ship. Um. But again, 1234 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,799 Speaker 1: and like they're all kind of useful idiots to the Nazis. 1235 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a it's a a constellation of 1236 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 1: of idiots who mostly act as like ablative armor for 1237 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 1: the hardcore of actual fascists. Yeah, beautiful. I love that, 1238 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 1: and it does it does really fit with the idea 1239 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: that Q and on is a grift and a belief 1240 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,919 Speaker 1: system with very little intent. But they are basically Nazis 1241 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 1: without even knowing it. Yeah, I don't think. I think 1242 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 1: a lot of them don't even come into it from 1243 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 1: like a bad place. They just Um, I can't get 1244 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 1: into the head of someone who gets drawn into it. 1245 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 1: But it's like a cult, you know. Once you once 1246 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 1: you get pulled into that, like it becomes your entire 1247 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: media ecosystem, and eventually your family stops talking to you, um, 1248 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: and then you kind of have nothing else but this stuff. 1249 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,759 Speaker 1: And so like there's a mix in the Q community 1250 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 1: of like people I would describe as like cultists who 1251 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 1: had a lot of sympathy for because they're clearly have 1252 01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 1: been pulled into something bad that's ruining their lives. And 1253 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 1: then there's the grifters who are profiting off of them. 1254 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 1: And then sort behind the grifters are the people who 1255 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 1: I think recognize this movement as an opportunity to further 1256 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: they're much more radical goals. Um, So yeah, it's it's 1257 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: it's a complicated melange of gross bullshit. Yeah, that's a 1258 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,479 Speaker 1: good way of putting it. Um. I also want to 1259 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,559 Speaker 1: ask about um, your your your podcast, Uh it could 1260 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Happen here, which is excellent and if you, if any 1261 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,720 Speaker 1: listener hasn't heard it yet, you should go check it out. 1262 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 1: And it's about the possibility of a second American Civil War. 1263 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,639 Speaker 1: And although although that podcast mostly focuses on rural rural 1264 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,640 Speaker 1: Americans and the militia movement, do you think that Q 1265 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 1: and on might have a role in sparking like a 1266 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,840 Speaker 1: serious domestic conflict. Yeah, I think, like any cult, um, 1267 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 1: and I do consider it a cult. Like, there's a 1268 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 1: significant chance for much more violence than we've seen. There's 1269 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 1: already been a couple of cases that you could sort 1270 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 1: of call an insurgent attack. You know, the guy parking 1271 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 1: is fucking armored truck on the hoover Damn. That could 1272 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: have very easily been a much more serious incident. Um. 1273 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,479 Speaker 1: Like That's there's a lot of people who like I'll 1274 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 1: say this, one of the positive things about the que 1275 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 1: and On as a cult is that it's not as 1276 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 1: inherently nihilistic as like what the guys on eight Chance 1277 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,479 Speaker 1: pull Board believe. That's sort of like like like exterminationist 1278 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 1: fascist ideology. Like there's obviously little strains of that through 1279 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 1: corners of the community, but mostly these people they don't 1280 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 1: want the world to end. Um. They just believe in 1281 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,320 Speaker 1: this sort of like magical period of American renewal that 1282 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is going to bring on. UM. So I 1283 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 1: think at this point you're less likely to see outright 1284 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 1: violent attacks on them. Most of the attacks are going 1285 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 1: to be based on people trying to like fulfill some 1286 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,760 Speaker 1: aspect of the conspiracy or like do something like that 1287 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 1: guy who shot the mob boss, thinking that it would 1288 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 1: like that guy was like what he was basically like 1289 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: thought he was tried before the citizens arrest of it 1290 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 1: it turned bad, wound up shooting and killing him. Yeah, 1291 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,800 Speaker 1: that's a exactly the kind of attack we're going to 1292 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 1: see now. I what worries me is that, you know, 1293 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,760 Speaker 1: there's a decent chunk of these people that believe way 1294 01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,800 Speaker 1: too hard to give up um when you know, at 1295 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 1: some point, presumably Donald Trump will stop being president. He'll 1296 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 1: either lose the election or there will be another election 1297 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 1: and he won't win. And you know, obviously if Trump 1298 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 1: makes some sort of like dictator play to stay in power, 1299 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 1: these people would back him. Um. But I think the 1300 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 1: more likely and worrying thing is that if Trump loses 1301 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 1: the election um and decides to step down, you've got 1302 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,520 Speaker 1: this sizeable group of people who aren't going to understand 1303 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 1: what's happening um, and who then might actually be pushed 1304 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,639 Speaker 1: into because like then their lives will still be fucked 1305 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 1: like this this beautiful, Like there's a bunch of them. 1306 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,559 Speaker 1: We think they're going to get hired by the CIA 1307 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: or whatever, like when Trump reveals that the plan has 1308 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 1: been real all along. Wait wait, wait, wait, Robert, because 1309 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 1: I spoke to Joe M and D M S. And 1310 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,800 Speaker 1: he says, the c I A M. The FBI will 1311 01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 1: be dissolved, but that the n s A is working 1312 01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 1: with the Q and on people, so they're very select 1313 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 1: and uh CIA is clowns in America, they're the bad guy. 1314 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,679 Speaker 1: Well yeah, whatever, like whatever happens, it won't be these guys, 1315 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,840 Speaker 1: like their lives won't change for the better. And I 1316 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,759 Speaker 1: think there will never be this moment where like everything 1317 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,680 Speaker 1: gets fixed for them, which is what a lot of 1318 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 1: them are hoping for. It's like this messianic kind of movement. 1319 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:21,720 Speaker 1: And when that collapses, assuming it collapses fully, UM, then 1320 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 1: I think some of them might start, might be moved 1321 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 1: to violence. That's what I'm really worried about for for Q, 1322 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 1: and I definitely think, you know, they would be part 1323 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,439 Speaker 1: of any sort of insurgent movement if Donald Trump got 1324 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 1: unseated in the next election and it was like a 1325 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,799 Speaker 1: contested sort of thing. Um Like, I could very easily 1326 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of these people, like they all have guns, 1327 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 1: like picking up weapons and becoming part of like a 1328 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 1: movement like that. UM. Now, thankfully a lot of them 1329 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 1: are boomers, and I don't think would make particularly potent infantry, 1330 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 1: but I think those would become like informants. They would 1331 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,320 Speaker 1: be like telling on the neighbor that's hiding the illegal 1332 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 1: aliens and that, Yeah, they definitely would or you know, 1333 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,559 Speaker 1: you you also have like a sizeable chunk of people 1334 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 1: who might carry out attacks or something if they really 1335 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,680 Speaker 1: started to feel like that was the only way to 1336 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 1: to save things. And I think it would probably be 1337 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 1: pretty targeted towards like democratic lawmakers or news you know, journalists, 1338 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Like, Yeah, I very much worry about 1339 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,479 Speaker 1: what could happen in this movement. It's really like a 1340 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,680 Speaker 1: tiger by the tail. Uh. And obviously the Trump administration 1341 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 1: hasn't even addressed any of this happening because they want 1342 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,559 Speaker 1: these votes. They also know that it would be toxic 1343 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,599 Speaker 1: to like their sane, rational voters to like even address 1344 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 1: Q and On, so they're they're never going to disavow them. 1345 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, I just don't know where all this can 1346 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:48,599 Speaker 1: end without something terrifying happening. It's very it's very dangerous. Um, 1347 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 1: I'll say that it's really dangerous. And I think like 1348 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 1: the number of people who are true believers in Q 1349 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 1: and On is way larger than anybody wants to give 1350 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 1: credit for at this point. Yeah, that's really my my 1351 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 1: you really talk about really my nightmare scenario. There's uh, 1352 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,439 Speaker 1: the psychiatrist um Robert J. Lifton in his book UM 1353 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,799 Speaker 1: destroying the world to save it. It's all about am Sharikio. 1354 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 1: He has this concept called forcing the end, where where 1355 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 1: basically this sort of cultish apocalyptic movement they get to 1356 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,879 Speaker 1: a point where they're impatient about their prophecies being fulfilled 1357 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 1: and so they take action to make it happen. And 1358 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,679 Speaker 1: so really my nightmare scenario is the Q and community 1359 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 1: they get to that in patient point where they stop 1360 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 1: trusting the plan, stop trusting that the white hats will 1361 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 1: take care of everything for them, and they'll force at 1362 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: the end that they envision will happen. Right, They'll think 1363 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 1: that the deep state is one and that and that 1364 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,120 Speaker 1: you know Q is actually the entire time been preparing 1365 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,400 Speaker 1: them to take up arms and and actually you know, 1366 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 1: do battle on the streets of you know, their suburb 1367 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,599 Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, and that's that. Like I think um 1368 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,760 Speaker 1: Shinriko is a really good comparison to make Q and on. 1369 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,560 Speaker 1: It's like um Shinriko was this Japanese cult that was 1370 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 1: made up of like a lot of scientists and like 1371 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,639 Speaker 1: like literal geniuses and stuff who like believed that. Yeah, 1372 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 1: they kind of basically believed that, like the world needed 1373 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 1: to be destroyed in order to bring on like sort 1374 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 1: of a utopian vision, and they carried out a saren 1375 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,639 Speaker 1: gas attack among other things in the Tokyo subway. Um 1376 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:20,560 Speaker 1: And I think Q and on has a lot of 1377 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 1: similarities to oum shinriko UM. But I guess one of 1378 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,559 Speaker 1: the saving graces is there's not a lot of genius 1379 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 1: of physicists and chemists uh and engineers who are who 1380 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,760 Speaker 1: are well, probably a lot of engineers actually, um, Yeah, 1381 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,679 Speaker 1: probably a lot of people who could build fertilizer bombs, 1382 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,559 Speaker 1: but not a lot of people who could synthesize sarin gas. Uh. 1383 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 1: So I guess we've got that going for us. Yes, 1384 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,160 Speaker 1: I also want to talk about your writings about um 1385 01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,920 Speaker 1: about eight chan. You've written some of the most thoughtful 1386 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 1: work I think about eight chan for a belling cat. 1387 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,040 Speaker 1: Now that eight chan is down, where do you think 1388 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,839 Speaker 1: sort of like these on like these isolated neo Nazis 1389 01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 1: are going to do. Are they just gonna congregate another 1390 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 1: place or have they just been sort of just mostly 1391 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 1: neutered since since eight chan is offline, I think UM 1392 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 1: a significant chunk of them are going to move on 1393 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,479 Speaker 1: to other things. One thing we know about sort of 1394 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,680 Speaker 1: fringe sites like eight chann is when they get shut down, 1395 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 1: it does seem to have like a long term impact 1396 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,320 Speaker 1: on UM the total membership. There's a lot of people 1397 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,160 Speaker 1: who are kind of more casual and who might have 1398 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 1: gotten pulled into like the more extreme parts of of 1399 01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 1: the kind of ideology there, who I think might just 1400 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 1: find something else to do and maybe never get further radicalized. 1401 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,439 Speaker 1: So I do think it's good that it stays down. 1402 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,400 Speaker 1: That said, most of those people, or at least a 1403 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 1: very sizeable chunk of them, like, aren't just not Nazis anymore. 1404 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,160 Speaker 1: They're just going and that we've seen a d asp 1405 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,840 Speaker 1: of sites like endo chan um, and we've seen some 1406 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,559 Speaker 1: of them filtering under Reddit and onto four chan um. 1407 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,839 Speaker 1: Some of them have made like fake mass shooting threats, 1408 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,720 Speaker 1: and I suspect we will continue to see that, And 1409 01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,640 Speaker 1: I like it's it's not over by any means, Like 1410 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,000 Speaker 1: they've been neo Nazis on the Internet have been trying 1411 01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,240 Speaker 1: to recruit people and like sort of convert large digital 1412 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 1: communities to their beliefs for a long time now. UM 1413 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,799 Speaker 1: and I don't think they're going to stop just because 1414 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 1: one of their more radical hubs got shut down. When 1415 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,920 Speaker 1: we covered Turning Point USA, we noticed that some neo 1416 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,559 Speaker 1: Nazi organizations like Identity Europa which is now rebranded as 1417 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 1: the American Identity Movement, they they were talking about infiltrating 1418 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Republican student organizations to better see their ideas and recruit people. 1419 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that, Well, this is again, 1420 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,080 Speaker 1: this has been going on for a while. You know, 1421 01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 1: if you look back to UM, there's you've you've got 1422 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 1: two kind of strains of the white nationalist movement. There's 1423 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,560 Speaker 1: the Van Guardis and there's the main streamers UM and 1424 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,680 Speaker 1: the the the main streamers who are kind of like 1425 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,680 Speaker 1: one of their early leading dudes was a guy named 1426 01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,880 Speaker 1: Willis Karto Um who formed a group called the Liberty 1427 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Lobby and who uh like basically started off like this 1428 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 1: neo Nazi group, the National Alliance, which like distributed the 1429 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 1: Turner diaries and was like a big part of like seating. 1430 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 1: This most recent surge of Nazis got its start actually 1431 01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 1: as a youth group for Republican presidential candidate UM, and 1432 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 1: it was then just overtime converted into this more extremist force. Um. 1433 01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 1: And so like there's been a lot of like, uh, 1434 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, even going back to the days of George 1435 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,639 Speaker 1: Lincoln Rockwell, a lot of like a very clear, concerted 1436 01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,559 Speaker 1: effort to try and like convert normal conservatives to more 1437 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:20,400 Speaker 1: explicitly fascistic views. They definitely see that as like where 1438 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 1: they can pull people from. Um. So what aim h 1439 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,760 Speaker 1: slash Identity Europa is trying to do with turning point 1440 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 1: USA like is nothing new. UM. I do think that 1441 01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 1: they've gotten better at it over time, in large part 1442 01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,760 Speaker 1: by sort of like hiding their power level, as they 1443 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 1: say it, which is why I think the work of 1444 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, media collectives like Unicorn Riot, of like leaking 1445 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 1: these groups internal chats and showing how they talk among 1446 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,120 Speaker 1: themselves now open they are about the Nazism when they're 1447 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 1: not out in public. I think that's very important because 1448 01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 1: it kind of makes it impossible if you do your research, 1449 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 1: to believe the lies that these groups say. Um. You know, 1450 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,479 Speaker 1: the problem is that like none of the mainstream media 1451 01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,840 Speaker 1: ever focused that much on any of this stuff, uh, 1452 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 1: and so they can assistently get it all wrong. Um. 1453 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 1: But that's why a lot of us keep talking to 1454 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,640 Speaker 1: them about like the nature of this kind of undercover 1455 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,320 Speaker 1: effort to uh red pill enormies. This me more if 1456 01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:16,439 Speaker 1: you will. That's right? Um, okay, cool, that's really really 1457 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 1: interesting stuff. Well, um, thanks so much for coming on 1458 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:24,160 Speaker 1: our podcast, and I guess we're thanking you for being 1459 01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,680 Speaker 1: on your podcast. These crossover episodes are so bizarre. 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