1
00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,160
Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

2
00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,080
Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by

3
00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,520
Speaker 1: Bally Bett, an official sports betting partner of your Cleveland

4
00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,400
Speaker 1: Browns on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. He are your hosts,

5
00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:34,640
Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

6
00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,240
Speaker 2: It's You're live on a Thursday edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily.

7
00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,760
Speaker 3: I am merely Bo. He is the Great z and

8
00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,200
Speaker 3: to my right, it has been too long, the Great

9
00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,559
Speaker 3: Joel Buttonio. I know you guys got me back on

10
00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,040
Speaker 3: for once.

11
00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:57,120
Speaker 4: All right, many requests are made, Not many requests are made.

12
00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,280
Speaker 5: Yes, Now you're one of the best.

13
00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,600
Speaker 4: You're a multiple time winner of the Dino Lucarelli Good

14
00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,040
Speaker 4: Guy Award.

15
00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,720
Speaker 6: I would say, yeah, I'm going that's the reason I

16
00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,360
Speaker 6: came back. I'm trying to break break a record that's

17
00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,760
Speaker 6: unbreakable for the Good Guy Award.

18
00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,479
Speaker 5: Had a good shout out.

19
00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,199
Speaker 3: How does how does California? Joel wrap your head around

20
00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,119
Speaker 3: the last month of weather?

21
00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:15,360
Speaker 2: Oh man?

22
00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,560
Speaker 6: It's I knew winter was tough, and we were here

23
00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,800
Speaker 6: all winter. My kids are in school, but we got

24
00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,040
Speaker 6: like a week of like seventy five and I was like, oh,

25
00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,720
Speaker 6: we're turning a corner and then now we're like fifty

26
00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,959
Speaker 6: in rainy it feels like Seattle, So I you know.

27
00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:29,839
Speaker 5: It feels like the winner.

28
00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is a little disappointed.

29
00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,040
Speaker 6: The golf season gets a little cut into it, you know,

30
00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,400
Speaker 6: And I'm a mutter like I'll play in a little

31
00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,119
Speaker 6: bit of weather. But but you know, this is getting

32
00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:39,880
Speaker 6: a little out of hand.

33
00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:41,240
Speaker 4: It's terrible.

34
00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,440
Speaker 3: Cart passed by August Boys, cart passed by has be

35
00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,200
Speaker 3: right back into camp.

36
00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

37
00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,480
Speaker 4: We're gonna be toast. We're gonna be off to Carolina

38
00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,120
Speaker 4: and Philadelphia and it's gonna be It's gonna be toast,

39
00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:52,600
Speaker 4: all right.

40
00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,800
Speaker 5: You mentioned that's why you came back.

41
00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,200
Speaker 4: So part of it was obviously setting breaking the Dino

42
00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,120
Speaker 4: Lucarelli Good Guy Award record.

43
00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,240
Speaker 5: What was the rest?

44
00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:00,920
Speaker 4: You and I talk kind of at the end of

45
00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,360
Speaker 4: the year, and I knew you you wanted to but

46
00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,240
Speaker 4: you wanted it to be right to do. So what

47
00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,480
Speaker 4: what how'd you get to this decision?

48
00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

49
00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,959
Speaker 6: Truthfully, I was, you know, I was disappointed in the

50
00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,800
Speaker 6: way the season went last year. You want to win

51
00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,760
Speaker 6: games when you play this this this game, and I

52
00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,120
Speaker 6: was in a year eleven, and that's kind of what

53
00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,040
Speaker 6: it's come down to you and you were frustrated with

54
00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,040
Speaker 6: the way things were happening, you know what, what you

55
00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,480
Speaker 6: you know, thought was something we could be good at

56
00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,440
Speaker 6: as a team, and we kind of move away from that,

57
00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,480
Speaker 6: and so I wanted to take some time away and

58
00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,160
Speaker 6: just you know, you're with guys for six months and

59
00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,160
Speaker 6: you're like, let me get away from this, let me refresh.

60
00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,359
Speaker 6: I went away for you know, a month away is

61
00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,160
Speaker 6: hanging out with my kids in my house. Nothing, you know, crazy.

62
00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,840
Speaker 6: I adn't go on any like crazy tricks.

63
00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, darkness to make your decision.

64
00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,600
Speaker 6: But you know, and I was like, met coach Bloom,

65
00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,040
Speaker 6: you know, talked to coach Tofansky, talked to you know,

66
00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,880
Speaker 6: Andrew Berry, and just like the plan, Like they don't

67
00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,560
Speaker 6: tell me all the top secrets, but they're like, hey,

68
00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,200
Speaker 6: we want to get back to what we did well

69
00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,639
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty twenty twenty one. We want to run

70
00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,240
Speaker 6: the ball, we want to play action off the run.

71
00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,359
Speaker 6: We're going to get a vet quarterback, We're going to

72
00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,799
Speaker 6: draft a guy. You know, all these things that you're

73
00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,519
Speaker 6: like as alignman, You're like all right, this makes sense.

74
00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,880
Speaker 6: Mistakes makes sense. Coach Bloom comes back and he talks

75
00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,079
Speaker 6: to me, and we got to dinner, and just the

76
00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,440
Speaker 6: way he was talking about.

77
00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,280
Speaker 5: Is your kind of guy.

78
00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,440
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, he loves ball. He loves running the ball.

79
00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,359
Speaker 6: He was at Stanford with those guys when they were

80
00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,760
Speaker 6: really running the ball, you know, three tight ends, two

81
00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,240
Speaker 6: fullback type of thing. And that got me excited. And

82
00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,800
Speaker 6: then I just, you know, sat with my wife and

83
00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,120
Speaker 6: you know, I think she thought I was going to retire,

84
00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,680
Speaker 6: and I you know, and you know, I was like,

85
00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,640
Speaker 6: I think I can still play. Like I'm ready. I'm

86
00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,040
Speaker 6: not ready to be done. You know, I do love golf.

87
00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,360
Speaker 6: I am ready to you know, do that eventually. But

88
00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,640
Speaker 6: I'm like, I can still play football, have the rest

89
00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,080
Speaker 6: of my life to those things. I am thirty three

90
00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,600
Speaker 6: years old, yeah, body of like a fifty five year old.

91
00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,400
Speaker 3: But had people have I mean, we have a pretty

92
00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,360
Speaker 3: decent idea, but even we don't have any idea like

93
00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,120
Speaker 3: what you play with injury on a given basis, I

94
00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,680
Speaker 3: can't imagine it. So when you're done and you're decompressing,

95
00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,360
Speaker 3: how much of it is mentally I can get back

96
00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,520
Speaker 3: to their physically what that entails. And then did you

97
00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,280
Speaker 3: lean on Joe at all? Uh Thomas with obviously his

98
00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,560
Speaker 3: because he had to make these types of decisions that

99
00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,000
Speaker 3: you're making.

100
00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, Honestly, a lot of the guys like I talked

101
00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,520
Speaker 6: to Joe, I talked to Mitch, I talked to John Greco.

102
00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,920
Speaker 2: Just guys that were had made that decision.

103
00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, Greco's man, I'm gonna see him this weekend, so

104
00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,120
Speaker 6: or excited for that, But no, it was a you

105
00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,039
Speaker 6: want to just know, Like I actually talked of Rabel

106
00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,320
Speaker 6: as well. You know, guys that have played in this

107
00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,839
Speaker 6: league for a long time that are like, what was

108
00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,240
Speaker 6: the decision you know that you made? And mentally I

109
00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,680
Speaker 6: feel like I can I was fine, Like I was

110
00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,600
Speaker 6: like it was it was disappointing, like the season was frustrating,

111
00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,039
Speaker 6: but I was like, I don't want to let one

112
00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,760
Speaker 6: season or one circumstance like drive me away. It's really

113
00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,520
Speaker 6: the physicality, Like so I had my back checked out,

114
00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,200
Speaker 6: I had my elbow, my knee, all these things that

115
00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,520
Speaker 6: have bothered me. I'm like, what is this going to

116
00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,200
Speaker 6: do to me if I keep playing? Obviously there's no answer,

117
00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,560
Speaker 6: like you could really mess something up. But they're like,

118
00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,040
Speaker 6: you know, it's it is what it is at this point,

119
00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,800
Speaker 6: you know, like, yeah, I might get a little bit worse,

120
00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,200
Speaker 6: but at the end of the day, it's like, we

121
00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,640
Speaker 6: feel like you're healthy enough to go out.

122
00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,559
Speaker 2: There and keep playing.

123
00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,200
Speaker 6: And that's kind of what I asked Joe, and Joe

124
00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,000
Speaker 6: was big, like, hey, you know, play as long as

125
00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,440
Speaker 6: you can. And his knees were bad at the end,

126
00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,160
Speaker 6: so I think that was that was the reason. Mitch,

127
00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,440
Speaker 6: you know, gave me a lot more analytical answer of like, well,

128
00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,040
Speaker 6: you gotta you know this versus this and the pros

129
00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,480
Speaker 6: and cons and I'm might to unplug something. Okah, good,

130
00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,960
Speaker 6: and uh, you know, Greco's just always been a mentor

131
00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,320
Speaker 6: to me, and I just always looked up to him

132
00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,480
Speaker 6: the way he was a professional. He just you know,

133
00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,280
Speaker 6: they just give me these these thoughts and and all

134
00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:36,919
Speaker 6: that together. And then with my wife and she's like,

135
00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,360
Speaker 6: whatever you want to do, and I was like, all right,

136
00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,440
Speaker 6: let's play some more football.

137
00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,600
Speaker 4: One thing you didn't mention, and I'd have to imagine

138
00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,479
Speaker 4: maybe it's not a big piece of it, but there

139
00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,520
Speaker 4: probably are only so many things you're going to be

140
00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,240
Speaker 4: able to do where you can make more than ten

141
00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,320
Speaker 4: million dollars in one calendar year. How much does that

142
00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,640
Speaker 4: factor in at all?

143
00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,520
Speaker 6: Yes, I think it'd be crazy to be like money,

144
00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,360
Speaker 6: you know, doesn't matter at all.

145
00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,760
Speaker 4: Like I love doing this and I get this as well.

146
00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,200
Speaker 2: Correct.

147
00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,000
Speaker 6: You know, I think we've done a decent job of,

148
00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,160
Speaker 6: you know, taking care of our money and stuff, and

149
00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,839
Speaker 6: in that aspect, one way or the other, it wasn't

150
00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,320
Speaker 6: gonna be a huge difference. But then you look at

151
00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,360
Speaker 6: it and you're like, all right, yeah, you're gonna make

152
00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,680
Speaker 6: a lot of money playing a game that you love

153
00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,680
Speaker 6: that you can still do, and it's like, let's go

154
00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,839
Speaker 6: out there and give it a try.

155
00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,920
Speaker 4: After spending that weekend with a hoff, I mean, I

156
00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,080
Speaker 4: asked them, I'm like, so this is why you played football,

157
00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:27,040
Speaker 4: so you could have this anyeah, yep, no doubt, no

158
00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:27,839
Speaker 4: doubt in my mind.

159
00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,680
Speaker 2: Do you get some juice? You know?

160
00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,599
Speaker 3: You talked about getting back to running the football. We

161
00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,560
Speaker 3: had the rookie mini camp, we had twin Shawn, we

162
00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,599
Speaker 3: had Dylan. All of a sudden, it's like yeah, yeah,

163
00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,160
Speaker 3: it's like but it's like, okay, that that's you want

164
00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,240
Speaker 3: to get back to running the football.

165
00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,200
Speaker 2: Those two guys both look like they're ready to go. Yeah,

166
00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:45,919
Speaker 2: it's exciting.

167
00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,360
Speaker 6: You know, you draft guys and you see these running

168
00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,480
Speaker 6: backs that are explosive players, and the way coach Reese

169
00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,119
Speaker 6: and Coach Evanski and coach Bloom have really talked about

170
00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,480
Speaker 6: we're getting back to running the ball like what we

171
00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,200
Speaker 6: did good multiple different sets, not just wide zone, but

172
00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,400
Speaker 6: the power scheme, pulling me and Wyatt, you know, the

173
00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,599
Speaker 6: things that we've done well in the past. And then

174
00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,839
Speaker 6: you get some fresh running backs back there that are

175
00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,000
Speaker 6: ready to run. And truthfully, I didn't know much about

176
00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,840
Speaker 6: the guys we drafted, but you see him, you see

177
00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,800
Speaker 6: the highlights, you see how they carry themselves. Here, you

178
00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,240
Speaker 6: see some of the stuff from mini camp, You're like,

179
00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,320
Speaker 6: all right, there's some explosion in there for sure.

180
00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,520
Speaker 2: So it's exciting.

181
00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Judkins is a stud and knows how

182
00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,000
Speaker 4: to get in the end zone.

183
00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:22,720
Speaker 5: Is a hammer.

184
00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,760
Speaker 4: Samson was the SEC Offensive player of the year.

185
00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,960
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, there's some accolades that go into that, and

186
00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:29,480
Speaker 6: then yeah.

187
00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,360
Speaker 4: You got to be pretty talented in that conference to

188
00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:32,480
Speaker 4: be the offensive player.

189
00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:32,560
Speaker 5: Of the year.

190
00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,760
Speaker 4: He certainly is that. You mentioned bringing in a veteran quarterback.

191
00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,040
Speaker 4: Obviously you got to work with Joe Flacco in the past.

192
00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,800
Speaker 4: He's back. But you know, I've heard a lot of

193
00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,280
Speaker 4: real positive things about Kenny Pickett fifteen and ten as

194
00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,480
Speaker 4: a starter in his career. What's kind of you knows

195
00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,360
Speaker 4: the NFC AFC North obviously, what's been your impressions of

196
00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,320
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett.

197
00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been great to have both of them, and

198
00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,840
Speaker 6: they're both just such quality professionals that they work well

199
00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,880
Speaker 6: with each other already seeing Kenny and Joe in the

200
00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,240
Speaker 6: weight room and on the field. But it's awesome. He's

201
00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,440
Speaker 6: he's been great. We've golfed a couple of times when

202
00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,160
Speaker 6: the weather is held up and just getting to know

203
00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,440
Speaker 6: him in that sense like a golfer. Yeah, he's just

204
00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,840
Speaker 6: started like last year, but he's already like in the

205
00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,960
Speaker 6: low nineties. So you're like, all right, this guy has

206
00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,640
Speaker 6: some talent, you know, And and he's very competitive. We

207
00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,800
Speaker 6: were playing some stuff and I made a couple of

208
00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,640
Speaker 6: puts on him and he was a little bit frustrated.

209
00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,240
Speaker 6: But no, he's, uh, you can tell you super competitive. Competitive,

210
00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,240
Speaker 6: he's locked in like he like you said, he has

211
00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,400
Speaker 6: an understanding of the division. He's played here and I

212
00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,000
Speaker 6: think he understands what we want to do. We want

213
00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,200
Speaker 6: to take care of the ball. We want to let

214
00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,320
Speaker 6: our defense you know, play at a high level and

215
00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,680
Speaker 6: then take those shots when we have him. But no,

216
00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,520
Speaker 6: it's it's been great so far and and I've enjoyed,

217
00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,960
Speaker 6: you know, getting to know him a little bit better

218
00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,280
Speaker 6: as well.

219
00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:40,960
Speaker 2: What has the vibe kind of been like?

220
00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,040
Speaker 3: And you know, you mentioned like the bad taste of

221
00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,920
Speaker 3: the mouth that you had after last season. A lot

222
00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,360
Speaker 3: of veterans on this team, obviously a youth talent has

223
00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,680
Speaker 3: been injected as well, but just kind of the the

224
00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,120
Speaker 3: off season feeling around the team for fans, what are

225
00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,280
Speaker 3: they what are they missing by not seeing what's happening

226
00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:56,960
Speaker 3: day to day?

227
00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can tell you what. Like Like, we're not

228
00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,000
Speaker 6: dwelling on that, but guys know, we did not play

229
00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,040
Speaker 6: up to our standard last year as a team, and

230
00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,680
Speaker 6: and I think coach Tafanski is harped on that, like, hey,

231
00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,920
Speaker 6: we need to do something different, you know, to make

232
00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,880
Speaker 6: a change here. And so the guys that come in

233
00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,959
Speaker 6: and put in work obviously a new playbook on offense

234
00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,360
Speaker 6: kind of new, but you know, new compared to last year,

235
00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,720
Speaker 6: and the focus really is like what's told is new, right, right.

236
00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,240
Speaker 2: Well, we've talked about this stuff.

237
00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,360
Speaker 6: You know, We've talked about, you know, taking care of

238
00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,839
Speaker 6: the ball, and we haven't done that the last couple

239
00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,840
Speaker 6: of years. We've talked about, you know, forcing turnos, we

240
00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,680
Speaker 6: haven't done that. These are all things that to be

241
00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,920
Speaker 6: a winning team, like you have to you have to do.

242
00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,160
Speaker 6: And so we've really been focused on those things and

243
00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,400
Speaker 6: and haven't been afraid to call out you know, kind

244
00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,360
Speaker 6: of the BS stuff that that goes on a little bit.

245
00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,520
Speaker 2: But I think the guys are focused.

246
00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,760
Speaker 6: The guys that have been here have been locked in,

247
00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,720
Speaker 6: and I'm excited to kind of see how it progresses.

248
00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,800
Speaker 4: One thing I heard some rumblings about is that potentially

249
00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,800
Speaker 4: this is going to be a much more intense and

250
00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,480
Speaker 4: physical training camp than maybe we've seen the last couple

251
00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,840
Speaker 4: of years. Are you hearing those those rumblings?

252
00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I'm excited for it. I know Mini

253
00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,200
Speaker 6: camp was a little bit amped up compared to what

254
00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,679
Speaker 6: they've had in the past. We had some OTAs and

255
00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,720
Speaker 6: obviously there's rules that you know, we're not shaking, but

256
00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,040
Speaker 6: getting into the training camp, you know, I know we're

257
00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,360
Speaker 6: not going to the green Brier this year. We have

258
00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,839
Speaker 6: a couple joint practices and those are always pretty up

259
00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,160
Speaker 6: tempo intents practices. But I think we're when you want

260
00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,439
Speaker 6: to run the ball, like you have to practice running

261
00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,320
Speaker 6: the ball, and so there's gonna be some some piers.

262
00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,720
Speaker 6: I don't know if they'll be live, but some periods

263
00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,600
Speaker 6: where it's like, hey, we're running the ball ten times here,

264
00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,920
Speaker 6: like defense knows it, offense knows it. And you have

265
00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,920
Speaker 6: to fight through those moments because in the games, so

266
00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,680
Speaker 6: you close out fourth quarters, right, it makes it. It

267
00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,640
Speaker 6: makes it easier when you're you know, the guy you're

268
00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,760
Speaker 6: going gets knows the plays you run. But when you

269
00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,240
Speaker 6: go into a game, it's going to fill that much easier.

270
00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:38,480
Speaker 2: All right.

271
00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,000
Speaker 3: One of the big topics this week around the league

272
00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,400
Speaker 3: has been the fact that you guys are going to

273
00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,240
Speaker 3: be able to be in the Olympics if you want

274
00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,080
Speaker 3: to be that passed and and so there will be

275
00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,320
Speaker 3: flag football in the Olympics in twenty twenty eight. I'm

276
00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,640
Speaker 3: guessing you're going to throw your hat in the ring

277
00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:51,840
Speaker 3: to quarterback that operation.

278
00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

279
00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,040
Speaker 6: If my shoulders will quite hold up. It's exciting. I

280
00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,320
Speaker 6: think guys that want to play, you know, are excited.

281
00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,920
Speaker 6: Part of me is like we have obviously the best

282
00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,320
Speaker 6: athletes in the world in the NFL, But part of

283
00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,360
Speaker 6: me makes me a little bit nervous, like these guys

284
00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,880
Speaker 6: play flag football for a living. Like there's different, you

285
00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,640
Speaker 6: know what I mean. Like I've seen them in the

286
00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,200
Speaker 6: Pro ball play flag football, and there's a lot of

287
00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,679
Speaker 6: good things, but these guys are like ladder on the ball,

288
00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,719
Speaker 6: you know, running the quarterbacks do a certain way. I

289
00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,800
Speaker 6: think they would have to be some serious like practice

290
00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,280
Speaker 6: and I think if you give them two weeks or

291
00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,440
Speaker 6: three weeks, yes they will be the best in the world.

292
00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,320
Speaker 6: But I think you really have to take it serious,

293
00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,400
Speaker 6: like you can't just be out there like, all right,

294
00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,120
Speaker 6: we're gonna run some seven on seven routes and see

295
00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,160
Speaker 6: what happens. Obviously they're gonna run by some people, but

296
00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,480
Speaker 6: I think some of the teams would be competitive. And

297
00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,160
Speaker 6: I don't truly know, but that's just my vibe.

298
00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,280
Speaker 3: Some of the team's non American, you think, or even

299
00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,840
Speaker 3: the American. I think that's what we were saying, probably

300
00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:44,440
Speaker 3: the best chance.

301
00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,319
Speaker 4: But believes and I agree with him, that we should

302
00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,920
Speaker 4: be the sports czars of the world the things we want.

303
00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,760
Speaker 4: Because they're saying only one American team, I think there

304
00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,520
Speaker 4: should be an NFL team, and then there should be

305
00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,160
Speaker 4: that professional flag football team, like the guys that are

306
00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,000
Speaker 4: the best of the best of the best. They should

307
00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,720
Speaker 4: get a squad in there, because I think that'd be interesting.

308
00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,720
Speaker 6: Beach volleyball, you get two teams, like a lot of

309
00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,800
Speaker 6: the sports, two different teams.

310
00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great.

311
00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,959
Speaker 3: I we are trying to get. We want like all

312
00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,439
Speaker 3: of the best players in our division to participate, Yes,

313
00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,120
Speaker 3: to take them off of their teams like that Jamargo's

314
00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,079
Speaker 3: and quarterbacks at Jamar Chase. It can be a receiver

315
00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,240
Speaker 3: came back it's in July.

316
00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be tight too.

317
00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,760
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, the reality is this is not without

318
00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:29,080
Speaker 4: the potential for no catastrophe for sure, So no Browns. Yeah,

319
00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,920
Speaker 4: go out there, all those guys. Like I just I

320
00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,280
Speaker 4: would find it hard to believe, though I do think

321
00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,880
Speaker 4: you will get NFL players, But I do find it

322
00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,720
Speaker 4: hard to believe that Steve Bashatti is gonna say, yeah, Lamar,

323
00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,680
Speaker 4: you can go play flag football this summer. I don't

324
00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,800
Speaker 4: think to me, there's no way allows that, right, Jamar Chase,

325
00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:47,880
Speaker 4: go We just had a big deal.

326
00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:48,880
Speaker 5: Don't worry about it.

327
00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,800
Speaker 4: I want you go play some flag football this summer.

328
00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, there'll be a lot of things to pick through there,

329
00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,320
Speaker 6: but I'd be interested to see. I know, if they

330
00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,080
Speaker 6: trained at it like they would obviously be elite at it,

331
00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,120
Speaker 6: but it'll be interesting.

332
00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,240
Speaker 4: There's a lot of ski and flag football.

333
00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,079
Speaker 3: I think I liked your line though, Like I thought

334
00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,880
Speaker 3: you saved it at the end when you said three

335
00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:06,520
Speaker 3: weeks two.

336
00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,959
Speaker 4: Week trading camp.

337
00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,840
Speaker 3: Give us two weeks with like a coach, and I'll

338
00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,120
Speaker 3: I like my chances. I wouldn't sall us as like it,

339
00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,800
Speaker 3: and I'm using us as like the NFL players as

340
00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,360
Speaker 3: like twenty eight and a half point favorites.

341
00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,480
Speaker 4: I do think though, when we talked about this as well,

342
00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,600
Speaker 4: and I'm sure you've come across them at some points,

343
00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,440
Speaker 4: whether either in your collegiate career you've heard about him

344
00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,360
Speaker 4: or even see a guy like you played with Crow

345
00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:25,959
Speaker 4: for example.

346
00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,319
Speaker 5: Now he made it to the NFL.

347
00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,160
Speaker 4: But there are there are a lot of incredible athletes

348
00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,320
Speaker 4: who would have been great NFL players that never even

349
00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,640
Speaker 4: get to college or to the NFL for a variety

350
00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:36,880
Speaker 4: of reasons. I mean, if they are in some of

351
00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,240
Speaker 4: those teams. Never know football guys, I mean I could

352
00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:40,880
Speaker 4: get interested.

353
00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've seen the thirty seven you on Instagram. You know,

354
00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,040
Speaker 6: those guys still playing for the love of the game

355
00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,480
Speaker 6: out there, so you never know.

356
00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,959
Speaker 3: Uh, tell us about the charity A Kid Again. I'm

357
00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,560
Speaker 3: very familiar with it. This is exciting.

358
00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

359
00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,280
Speaker 6: So I've been working with them for the last couple

360
00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,000
Speaker 6: of years, but we're doing a raffle. So I did

361
00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,800
Speaker 6: a kidding in cleats for Mike off my cleats. I

362
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,199
Speaker 6: signed those cleats, their custom a kidding in cleats. They

363
00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,040
Speaker 6: have a custom bottle of Maker's Mark A Kid Again.

364
00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,599
Speaker 6: And then there's six tickets to Brown's training camp and

365
00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,319
Speaker 6: a meeting greet with me afterwards. So this is one

366
00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,439
Speaker 6: big raffle. You buy a ticket for fifty bucks on

367
00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,679
Speaker 6: the Kid Again website or you can go to my Instagram.

368
00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,160
Speaker 6: I got linked in the bio and you have a

369
00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,760
Speaker 6: chance to win this. You know, one person wins it.

370
00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,360
Speaker 6: But it's a pretty cool thing. And the best part

371
00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,480
Speaker 6: is it's for a great cause. Like me, me is okay,

372
00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,040
Speaker 6: but you're helping raise money for these guys. These are

373
00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,120
Speaker 6: families that are raising kids with life threatening conditions and

374
00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,120
Speaker 6: they go on these adventures where they bring a lot

375
00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,480
Speaker 6: of these kids together in families. And we went to

376
00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,960
Speaker 6: seeing seventy five this offseason and just seeing those kids

377
00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,960
Speaker 6: like be able to experience a little bit of normalcy

378
00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,480
Speaker 6: and the families kind of meet and talk with other

379
00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,240
Speaker 6: people that are going through a lot of the same things.

380
00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,240
Speaker 6: You know, it's very special. It's obviously a tough thing

381
00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,000
Speaker 6: to do, but they try and do these adventures in

382
00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,960
Speaker 6: fifty bucks will pay for one of the family's adventures,

383
00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,400
Speaker 6: so they're doing all types of you know, fundraising. We're

384
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,440
Speaker 6: just trying to help help get the word out and

385
00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,000
Speaker 6: if someone wants to come, you know, meet us at

386
00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,200
Speaker 6: Browns training camp, a tougher, more physical Browns training camp.

387
00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,239
Speaker 2: Well, uh, we'll be excited to meet them.

388
00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,400
Speaker 5: It's fantastic.

389
00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,920
Speaker 4: It's beautiful to see you know, how involved this organization

390
00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,120
Speaker 4: and this team and the players are in this community.

391
00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,640
Speaker 4: And you're always there, like I always say, you know,

392
00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,720
Speaker 4: for example, I do the Halloween thing.

393
00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,440
Speaker 5: You're always there. Yeah, always, And it's awesome.

394
00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,760
Speaker 4: That's so import you because there are a lot of

395
00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,160
Speaker 4: guys you know, this many years in the league, this

396
00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,560
Speaker 4: many you know, pro Bowls. You never know, you're always there,

397
00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,840
Speaker 4: and so I really appreciate that.

398
00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,880
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate it, honestly. It's like the city has

399
00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,720
Speaker 2: given me so much.

400
00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,600
Speaker 6: And like he talked about, like the Cleveland Browns, I think,

401
00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,840
Speaker 6: you know, the Haslums and their foundations do such an

402
00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,120
Speaker 6: amazing job of this community and to be a small

403
00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,680
Speaker 6: part of it, Like it's easy for me to go

404
00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,840
Speaker 6: out there and be a part of it because we appreciate,

405
00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,360
Speaker 6: you know, what the fans and what the people of

406
00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:51,800
Speaker 6: Cleveland do for us.

407
00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,200
Speaker 2: It's great to see you, buddy. Yeah, No, I'm I'm

408
00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,320
Speaker 2: you know, excited, to be honest.

409
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,720
Speaker 5: It feels optimism here by the way. I think we

410
00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:58,600
Speaker 5: get it season.

411
00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,520
Speaker 2: We might get out of juice.

412
00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,960
Speaker 4: We might get yelled at by some of the people

413
00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,520
Speaker 4: out there if we don't even ask you this because

414
00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,560
Speaker 4: you mentioned they told you the plan veteran quarterbacks, We

415
00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,440
Speaker 4: talked about them and rookie quarterbacks. What's been like with

416
00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,280
Speaker 4: the two rookies. This is a very unique situation.

417
00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think first off, quarterback most important

418
00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,200
Speaker 6: position in any sport. And so if you have two

419
00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,880
Speaker 6: guys that you want to take a chance on, like hey,

420
00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,680
Speaker 6: why not do it? Give them, give him a chance,

421
00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,880
Speaker 6: and to have a guy like Joe Flacco and Kenny

422
00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,880
Speaker 6: Pickett in there to learn from. You know, I think

423
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,640
Speaker 6: is a special place. If I was one of those

424
00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,080
Speaker 6: young guys, I would just follow him around and be like,

425
00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,520
Speaker 6: what does this guy does? Yeah, but they've been good.

426
00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,560
Speaker 6: You know, I've only met him in passing and just

427
00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,000
Speaker 6: saying what's up and and seeing how things are going.

428
00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,840
Speaker 6: But they seem locked in. They seem ready to roll.

429
00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,800
Speaker 6: You know, it'll be exciting to see him once we

430
00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,520
Speaker 6: get out on the field. You know, I've had my

431
00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,800
Speaker 6: fair share of quarterbacks, but it seems like these guys

432
00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,240
Speaker 6: do things that you know, Coach Thefansky Andrewberry want to do,

433
00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,320
Speaker 6: and they'll be Uh, it'll be exciting once we get

434
00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:54,720
Speaker 6: on the field.

435
00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,120
Speaker 4: His rookie year twenty fourteen. Obviously you started with the

436
00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,520
Speaker 4: rookie quarterback. Then the great John Football was with Joel

437
00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,119
Speaker 4: and here you are again. Now it's going again and

438
00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,680
Speaker 4: there we started the final game in Baltimore.

439
00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,280
Speaker 2: Yes, me and Joe we're talking about that game this morning.

440
00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,159
Speaker 4: You know, he hit a bomb to Tory Smith and

441
00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,120
Speaker 4: that game we're pretty sure Conor show ended that game

442
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,480
Speaker 4: with like a finger that was off of his hand,

443
00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,760
Speaker 4: a broken rib, but just that was a tough one.

444
00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,239
Speaker 6: Yeah it was he had internal bleeding. Yeah, take him

445
00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,080
Speaker 6: to the hospital. No, it was that well, okay, quick story.

446
00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,960
Speaker 6: I remember that game because we were down. You know,

447
00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,800
Speaker 6: Hoyer was out, Menzel was out. We had signed this

448
00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,320
Speaker 6: is bad ball by me. I don't remember who he

449
00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,879
Speaker 6: signed to be the backup that week, but he just

450
00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,639
Speaker 6: came in for like a week and you know, to

451
00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,240
Speaker 6: be the backup quarterback. Connor got absolutely destroyed on the

452
00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,280
Speaker 6: sideline and he was like army crawling and the backup

453
00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,880
Speaker 6: quarterback was on the side and he's like, you're good,

454
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,480
Speaker 6: get up, get up, And the ref even gave us

455
00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,199
Speaker 6: a chance like get him off the ground and like

456
00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,680
Speaker 6: and we actually played like a long pass and he

457
00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,919
Speaker 6: was like hobbling down on the field and I was

458
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,600
Speaker 6: just like, oh my god, this guy is and we

459
00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,080
Speaker 6: were in that game with both needed to win to

460
00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,520
Speaker 6: go to the playoffs. So it was it got a

461
00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 6: little bit.

462
00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,200
Speaker 5: Get a bomb Tory Smith.

463
00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,000
Speaker 4: We were like really hanging in and then it was

464
00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,560
Speaker 4: like that was classic Flacco, like nothing nothing boom found it.

465
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,320
Speaker 3: Do we need to do stories stories with Joel in

466
00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,040
Speaker 3: the off season do we need I mean, we have

467
00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,320
Speaker 3: to talk to your people, but some good stories out

468
00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,680
Speaker 3: there that he has seen a lot.

469
00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 6: Dan Murphy keeps me pretty locked away, but you know,

470
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,800
Speaker 6: when we get a chance, we can definitely do some

471
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 6: stories for you.

472
00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, free Joel. We'll talk to Dan about that.

473
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 3: We see anybody likes the charity and a Kid Again

474
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,399
Speaker 3: again and you can get that on their website and

475
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,360
Speaker 3: also on your Instagram for the link and that that's

476
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,200
Speaker 3: just a spectacular charity.

477
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,359
Speaker 2: So good job out of you on that.

478
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,880
Speaker 3: We're often running Cleveland Brown's Daily presented by bally Bet,

479
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,879
Speaker 3: official sports betting partner Your Cleveland Browns on a fifty ESPN.

480
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,440
Speaker 2: Cleveland.

481
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet and official sports

482
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 1: betting of Your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESPN and Cleveland.

483
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 3: All Right, Welcome back in Cleveland Brown's aamily presented by

484
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 3: Bally beneficial sportsmanning partner of your Cleveland Browns. You cannot

485
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,960
Speaker 3: get bigger, l luminary than this. This is as big

486
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 3: as it gets and it's Abriel. This is exciting. We

487
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,200
Speaker 3: are joined on the Twisted Tea Hotline by the new

488
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,119
Speaker 3: limited partner and owner of your Cleveland Browns. He is

489
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 3: the great Charles Woodson. Charles, thank you so much for

490
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 3: joining us, Sir. We greatly appreciate you. It's got a

491
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 3: decent ring to it for a kid from Fremont, Ohio,

492
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 3: does it not?

493
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 7: And Man, I was just sitting here listening to you

494
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 7: say that, man, and I was just kind of blown

495
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 7: away by that limited partner of the Browns. You know,

496
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,919
Speaker 7: my home stay of Ohio. Man, it's kind of crazy.

497
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 4: Take us through, Take us through. How this all came

498
00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 4: to me? We said yesterday when you can have and

499
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 4: right by our calculations, there are three such people on

500
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 4: planet Earth right now yourself. It was Tony Dorsett and

501
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 4: Marcus marks all and who have won the Heisman, won

502
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 4: a college championship, won the Super Bowl, and are in

503
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 4: the National Football League, the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

504
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 5: One of three.

505
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 4: When you can add that to your organization, it's obviously

506
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 4: a no brainer from the Brown standpoint. How did this

507
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 4: all come together?

508
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,160
Speaker 2: Though?

509
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,360
Speaker 4: How did you get to this point where let's do this,

510
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 4: You make the investment and now you are a limited

511
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 4: partner of the Cleveland Browns.

512
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I want to you know first, you know,

513
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 7: give a lot of credit to Lyricsis Jerald and I

514
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,679
Speaker 7: know that'll probably surprise some people, but he contacted me

515
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 7: maybe stood over a year and a half ago and

516
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,159
Speaker 7: asked me, Hey, would I be interested in, you know,

517
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 7: maybe exploring getting involved with a franchise. And I was like, yeah, sure, man,

518
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 7: let's do it. And so he introduced me to Derek Haggins,

519
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 7: who I got to know over the process really well.

520
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 7: And from that point, you know, Derek you know, reached

521
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,239
Speaker 7: out to a few teams and and just kind of

522
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,239
Speaker 7: you know, saw their interests and the Browns were one

523
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 7: of the one of the teams that came up. And

524
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 7: so once that happened, you know, he set a meeting

525
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 7: up with myself and uh, of course of mister Hasslan

526
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 7: and his wife d J. W. Whitney, and I was

527
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 7: able to meet them at the Super Bowl twenty twenty

528
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 7: four when it was out in Vegas, and I was

529
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 7: able to sit down with the family and just you

530
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 7: know talk to them. We talked about each other, his background,

531
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 7: you know, the franchise, and you know my interest in

532
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 7: being involved with the team. And so that was just

533
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 7: the initial initial visit, you know, just to kind of

534
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 7: feel each other out. And from there, you know, we

535
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 7: kind of kind of hit hit the road, uh, and

536
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 7: hit the ground running and kind of started down this

537
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 7: road throughout this process. So that's kind of the genesism

538
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 7: of how it started. And you know, once we were comfortable,

539
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 7: or I would say once they were comfortable, I mean,

540
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 7: I definitely want to be a person who's a part

541
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 7: of the NFL and the capacity. But of course it

542
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 7: was it the ball was in their court whether or

543
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 7: not they would want me on board, and uh, they

544
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 7: thought it was a good idea for myself to be

545
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 7: a part of the franchise. So we started down this path.

546
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: Well it's thrilling stuff.

547
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: And from from your perspective, you know, well, well you said,

548
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 3: you know, you you wanted to make sure that that

549
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 3: they wanted to bring you in. But from your perspective,

550
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 3: what were you looking for in an ownership group, in

551
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 3: a team when when you when you're talking to Larry

552
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: Fitz and you're getting this thing moving a little bit,

553
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 3: what were you looking for and what did the Haslm

554
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 3: family have that you identified with and say this is

555
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: the type of organization I want to be a part of.

556
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 7: I think when I when I really sat back and

557
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 7: thought about it, it was really the connection with of

558
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 7: course me being from Freeland, Ohio, and the Browns, of

559
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 7: course being right there in Cleveland, not not very far

560
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 7: from where I grew up. And I thought that, you know,

561
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 7: being a guy who grew up there and watched the

562
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 7: Browns as a young kid, thinking about the history there

563
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 7: with the Browns. You know, two names always popping into

564
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 7: my head anytime I think about the Browns, and that's

565
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 7: Samford Dixon and Frank Minifield. I grew up, you know,

566
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 7: watching those guys that you know at the corner, the

567
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 7: cornerstone of the franchise, if you will, And I just

568
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 7: remember all of the tough games, the heartbreaks with the Browns,

569
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 7: and so it brought back a lot of memories to me,

570
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 7: and I thought, man, you know what that really does

571
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 7: tell the story I think of myself in this partnership

572
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 7: with the Browns, and so it just to me, it

573
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 7: just it made more and more sense the more that

574
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 7: I thought about it.

575
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: Did you feel like now was a great time for

576
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 4: a very decorated Michigan man like yourself to return to

577
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 4: Ohio knowing that Michigan's won four straight. But but the

578
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 4: fact that Ohio State won the national title this year,

579
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 4: maybe they're not gonna be quite as salty about it.

580
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 4: But Michigan and Ohio State won the last two national

581
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 4: championships and this is the time you choose to come back.

582
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 5: Did that have anything to do with it? I'm obviously, I'm.

583
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 7: Kidding now, you know, I don't. I don't want to

584
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 7: rub in or anything we have had. We have had

585
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 7: some success against those guys, but uh no, I think

586
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 7: in terms of the excitement, it's just the excitement around

587
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 7: the organization. Of course, you know, every team is going

588
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 7: to be excited, you know, coming off of the draft.

589
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 7: But I think the Browns, you know, we feel pretty

590
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 7: good about the guys that they brought in, trying to

591
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 7: build that depth within the team structure and trying to

592
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 7: make sure that they're competitive, you know, throughout the entire season.

593
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 7: So I'm just looking forward to to the upside of

594
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 7: the guys that we brought in. And then, of course,

595
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 7: you know the team that was already there beforehand.

596
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 4: Was there something about being involved with a storied franchise

597
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 4: as well? I mean, you think about just your whole

598
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 4: prof whole profile. Michigan a storied college franchise. Then you

599
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 4: come to the NFL and you're with the Raiders and

600
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 4: the Packers, two of the most storied franchises in the

601
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,479
Speaker 4: history of this sport. To be with the Browns one

602
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 4: of those kind of you know you think of original franchises.

603
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 4: Was that Is there something about being kind of on that.

604
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 5: Level for you?

605
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 4: Did that factor into it as well as obviously being

606
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: in your home state of Ohio.

607
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I sat back and thought about that too,

608
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 7: and I thought, man, I have to be, you know,

609
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 7: one of the luckiest people in the world to be

610
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 7: associated and to have played for the organizations and the

611
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 7: historical or organizations or college teams that I have, as

612
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 7: you mentioned, Michigan, Green Bay, and the Oakland Raiders, now

613
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 7: the Las Vegas Raiders, and now here comes to Browns

614
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 7: and so I don't know if there's you know, any

615
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 7: other player that's you know, been a part of, played

616
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 7: for and of course ownership wise, that's been a part

617
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 7: of that type of lineage when it comes to two teams.

618
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 7: So man, I, you know, I'm just so fortunate, man,

619
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 7: and so blessed that it's hard to you know, kind

620
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 7: of put it into words. You know, my journey, you know,

621
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 7: from a child from Freemant, Ohio to get to this

622
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 7: point to be, you know, part of the ownership group

623
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 7: with the Cleveland brown So I'm and like I said,

624
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 7: I don't even know how. Sometimes I don't have to

625
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 7: pinch myself, man, because it just doesn't feel real.

626
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting as you're talking there, Charles, you think

627
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: about you know, when you all won the national championship

628
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: at Michigan, had been a long time and it was

629
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: something that you know, Bow knocked on the door forever

630
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 3: and then you guys knocked that door down and won

631
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: that national championship. But it had been a long time,

632
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 3: and you know what that's like. And one thing we

633
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: tell our players. We always get to talk to the

634
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: rookies when they first come in here and we say

635
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: this about the Browns, like it's probably very similar in

636
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: Green Bay, that this is very much a big college.

637
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: I mean that as a compliment in terms of the

638
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: whole city shuts down on Sunday at one o'clock. Much

639
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: like if you're in ann Arbor, you're around Detroit at

640
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: noon on a Saturday, you're going to the big House

641
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 3: like that's what everybody does, and there is a very

642
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 3: collegial feel to it. And I do wonder when you

643
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: think about those parallels. All you've done every place you've

644
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: been is win. What is the common denominator that you've

645
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 3: found in your life between your participation and winning and

646
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: the teams that do win?

647
00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: What do they do?

648
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think, you know, first of all, you got

649
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 7: to have great leadership. You know, I feel like the

650
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 7: places of course that I've been and we've had success

651
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 7: and we've won, you know, we had great leadership.

652
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 4: You know.

653
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 7: In college playing for Lloyd carr Man, he offered up

654
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 7: tough love, you know what I mean, to the players.

655
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 7: So there was no easy road, you know, in terms

656
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 7: of you know, getting in his good graces and so

657
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 7: he got the best out of us. And then from there,

658
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 7: you got to have the players on the team that

659
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 7: buy into won your head coach. You got to buy

660
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 7: into the guys who are who are really truly teaching

661
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 7: the players. You know, I always say, man, it's really

662
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 7: about the assistant coaches in my opinion, that really have

663
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 7: the hands on job of developing the players. And if

664
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 7: you got those guys who are great teachers of the game,

665
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 7: not just putting plays on the board and going through plays,

666
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 7: but somebody that can actually teach you the game, really

667
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 7: break down the scheme or whatever you're running, and then

668
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 7: allowing those guys to really truly buy into what you're doing. Uh,

669
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 7: then guys go out there and they play with confidence

670
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 7: now and then from there, you got to have the talent.

671
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 7: You got to have talented guys on your roster if

672
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 7: you're going to get to the next level. I mean,

673
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 7: you can have a good team and buy in and

674
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 7: you can get to the playoffs, so you can get

675
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 7: to the you know, the conference championship or whatever. But

676
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 7: when it when it turns, when it comes to getting

677
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 7: over that hump, you got to have the right players

678
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 7: in there, uh to to to you know, get into

679
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 7: those big games that the guys who know how to

680
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 7: make the big plays and know where to be on

681
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 7: assignment and doing their job. And if you can have

682
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 7: those those those three things going for you, that's when

683
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 7: you win. So I know that's what the coach and

684
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 7: you know, Andrew Barry and those guys are trying to

685
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 7: build up there, trying to trying to build this roster

686
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 7: with talented players. You've got good coaches definitely coaching them

687
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 7: with the fan skiff course, and then you know me

688
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 7: with with Dec and Jim schwartz Man. You know, he's

689
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 7: one of the best in the game. So you got

690
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 7: good guys that are that are coaching the players. So

691
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 7: that's what it's going to take. Now, you just got

692
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 7: to buy in man and build that roster man today

693
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 7: you can get where you need to go.

694
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: Talking with Brown's new Browns Limited partner Charles Woodson NFL

695
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, Charles, what is this going to look like?

696
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 4: Or what do you want this to look like? How

697
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: involved do you want to be? Are you going to

698
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: be Are people going to see you out of training camp?

699
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: Are gonna people see you maybe at some of the games.

700
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: Are you going to speak to this kind of how

701
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 4: do you envision or how do you hope? You know,

702
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 4: this involvement goes not just from being the limited partner,

703
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: but then you know day to day or week to week,

704
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 4: you know, with the team with this organization.

705
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I'll be around as much as I

706
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 7: can be. You know, we'll try to work out this

707
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 7: schedule with this, uh, you know, with the summer coming

708
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 7: up and you know, all of the training camps, ots

709
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 7: or whatever. Try to figure out a time when I

710
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 7: can get up there. You know, I'd love to get

711
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 7: up there and just you know, see the team, you know,

712
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 7: talk to the guys and that sort of thing. But

713
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 7: this is you know, it's a conversation. You know that

714
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 7: we're that I think it will be an ongoing conversation

715
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 7: in terms of, you know, my role and how involved.

716
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 7: And you know, the way I look at it is

717
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 7: I'm always respectful of the people who have been there,

718
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 7: been there, and who have done it for the amount

719
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 7: of times that have done it, you know, whether that

720
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 7: be the coaches or the guys in you know, in

721
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 7: the in the administrative level or whatever, that this is

722
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 7: what they do. And so you know, I'm just coming in,

723
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 7: you know, initially to just kind of be a sounding

724
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 7: board and anything, you know, questions that they ask of

725
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 7: me in terms of, you know, similar to the question

726
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 7: you have, you know, how do how do you win

727
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 7: a championship? You know, how do you build that team?

728
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 7: You know, I can give them my insights of what

729
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 7: I feel work, and then I think we're just kind

730
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 7: of grow it into you know, ultimately what what it

731
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 7: will be. You know, in the long run. So I'm

732
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 7: just you know, I'm opening, you know, and excited, you know,

733
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 7: just for the opportunity to actually be on that on

734
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 7: this side of it. You know, when I think back

735
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 7: to my younger days and playing man for us, it

736
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 7: was taboo if if you talk to the people upstairs,

737
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 7: you know, we didn't trust you, you know what I'm saying.

738
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 7: So now I'm on the other side of that, and uh,

739
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 7: you know, I don't want I don't want those guys

740
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 7: to look at me like I used to look at

741
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 7: the guys you know, on the on the upper level

742
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 7: of the facility. So just looking forward to this, to

743
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 7: this uh, this process, and just growing into whatever role

744
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 7: you know it may be in the long run, Charles.

745
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: One thing that uh, well, Nathan, I will ask your permission.

746
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: One thing we'd like to do when you are in

747
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: town is we'd like to uh pay proper homage and

748
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: respect to you by wearing ascots.

749
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: Is that okay? Is that all right?

750
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 7: Hey man? Man? And you got my heart right there.

751
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 7: You know what I'm say. You were to ask God

752
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 7: when I see you, and you have to ask, got on,

753
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 7: I know exactly who I'm talking to.

754
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: That's it. All right.

755
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: When you're in the building, ascots will be worn on

756
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: the little notice, little heads up and ascots will be ready.

757
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: Yes, man, let's do it.

758
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: Asks baby, Hey man, it is It is so cool

759
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: to have you on board. It's a real thrill for

760
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: all of us here and welcome aboard. And we're all

761
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: thrilled to see where this all goes.

762
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 7: And I appreciate you guys have me on man, and

763
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 7: look forward to meet you guys in first Yes.

764
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 3: There it is the great Charles Woodson, NFL Hall of Famer,

765
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: one of the five coolest Ohioans of all time, and

766
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: a new limited partner of your Cleveland Browns. We will

767
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 3: we'll get your hot topics.

768
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: There's a lot of them. This has been Can we

769
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: just be done? Oh no, we got Kurt Warner.

770
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner, is it too? Good?

771
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: Grief?

772
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, official sports winning

773
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: partner Your Cleveland Browns.

774
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, an official sports

775
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: betting partner of Your Cleveland Browns. On eight p fifty

776
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: ESP and Cleveland.

777
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: Add more fun to your fandom with the bally Bet

778
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: Sportsbook app. Download today, Get fifty back in bonus Bets,

779
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: you placed that first swager of ten or more bally Bet,

780
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: official sports winning partner of.

781
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: Your Cleveland Browns.

782
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: Your Hot Topics of Theday presented by University Hospitals, official

783
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 3: healthcare partner of your Cleveland Browns. Sad news in the

784
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: NFL last night. Colts owner Jim Rsey passed away peacefully

785
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: in his sleep yesterday, just sixty five years of age.

786
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: He was named the youngest general manager in team history

787
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty four when the Colts arrived in Indianapolis.

788
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: I was unaware of that. He took ownership of the

789
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: team in nineteen ninety seven, led the Colts to a

790
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: Super Bowl championship in two thousand and seven. Over fifty

791
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: years working in the NFL. The sixty five is crazy young. Obviously,

792
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: he's had some health issues and various things through the years.

793
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: The thing that the two things that I think of

794
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: with him, there's three things really that jump out to me,

795
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: and I think he deserves a great deal of credit

796
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: for in all three of these areas. Number One, what

797
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: has happened in Indianapolis Now, A lot of that's Peyton

798
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: Manning and they landed Peyton Manning, but they took an

799
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 3: aging building and built a state of the art dome

800
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: that allowed a Midwestern city to host a Super Bowl

801
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: and countless Final fours and National Championship games and Big

802
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: Ten championship games and all of it. And it's not

803
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: just that it've been to Indy as I've been a lot,

804
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: and included last year for youth sports. When you go

805
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: out to their training facility and you've been there because

806
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: we were there when we did the joint practices, it

807
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: is it's a long ways out, it's pat north of Carmel.

808
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 3: But when you get out there and you see perfectly

809
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: manicured grass fields for little kids play youth sports on

810
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: for as far as I can see, it's amazing. That's

811
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: a pretty damn good job. So that impact that the

812
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: NFL and Jim Mersey had on Indianapolis is pretty pretty extreme.

813
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 4: You knew he was kind of always in some ways

814
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 4: kind of like the wild man owner. He would tweet

815
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 4: things and all of this, and I think what's very cool.

816
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 4: And McAfee's talked a great deal about him in the

817
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 4: last few hours to yesterday when the news came down,

818
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 4: and now you're hearing so many stories sounds like Jim

819
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: irsay was one of the kindest and most generous people

820
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 4: in the world and would do things with one caveat

821
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: for people, and that was that they never made it

822
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: public that he did that for them, and paid for

823
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 4: funerals of people and birthdays, and it just was constantly

824
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 4: trying to help people out that either worked for him

825
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: or in the Indianapolis are any of it, And he

826
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: sounds like just an incredibly generous.

827
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 5: And great guy.

828
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: We know he was, you know, probably the all time

829
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 4: tweeter as an owner of an NFL team.

830
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 5: He was an owner of any sports franchise quite frankly.

831
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sad sixty five, that is, and you know

832
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: that given his situation, this is a person who has

833
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: the means to the best medical care around.

834
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 5: So that's very young and very very sad.

835
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is two other things that I think of

836
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: with him. Number One, I'm pretty sure he was the

837
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: first owner to speak up against Dan Snyder and say

838
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: you us sell that team. I'm pretty sure he was

839
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 3: the first to do that. And the other thing that

840
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: I know is how much of an advocate he has

841
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: been for mental health. That's been something that's been near

842
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: dear to his heart, and he's been one of the

843
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: leaders in that and speaking about it and taking it

844
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: from something that I think his generation probably felt was

845
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: taboo and making it something front and center. So a

846
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: really incredible impact for him. Over there three daughters that

847
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: will now have the control of the Colts with with

848
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: his untimely passing just sixty five.

849
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 2: God, that's young man.

850
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: A couple of things around the league. The US and

851
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: the Steelers boast reached down to the States about a

852
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: potential trade involving Chris o'lave earlier this offseason, but back

853
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: the way after New Orleans showed an unwillingness to part

854
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: with the all I bet they would if somebody says, yeah,

855
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 3: we're not trading him, then you can't.

856
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 4: Could have been as easy as hey, any interest in trade?

857
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: No, Okay, Albert Breer with the reporting on that, Yeah,

858
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: I'm I mean I saw that.

859
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: I don't understand why the Saints would trade him.

860
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 4: They wouldn't.

861
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 2: They just drafted him. Why would you trade him?

862
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense unless yeah that that that one

863
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 3: did make a whole lot of sense to me. Did

864
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: you watch I mean the weather was by the way,

865
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: did you get your golf.

866
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 4: In all that we did. Yeah, it was, it was good.

867
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: It was an epic match.

868
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: Give me is very happening.

869
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: What do you mean you lost lost on the nineteenth hole.

870
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

871
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 4: We lost on the nineteenth hole. We were too undergross

872
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 4: for nineteen holes and lost. Wow, guy with a high handicap,

873
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 4: gil Boy was more like gil Man on this.

874
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 8: Crushed it, crushed it in all fairness, a lot of bars.

875
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 4: Never heard of a league where you any played donlay

876
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 4: from the play from the same tis That drives me nuts.

877
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: It's just that's those are the rules. They don't blame

878
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: them for That's how it is. But like we all

879
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: have to play same tees. I think you're gonna play

880
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 4: for the whites. We'll all play for the whites, or

881
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 4: we'll all play for the blues.

882
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: So rather than the handicap, they do the tea.

883
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 4: It's still handicapped, but you only give up a couple

884
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 4: of shots to go from the blues of the whites.

885
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: But it's worth way more than a couple shots.

886
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 3: Do you think do you think that's the case at

887
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: every club or do you think it's most especially I.

888
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: Never encountered this before, like it Beachmont when you played

889
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: in events.

890
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody played safety.

891
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so what they're doing.

892
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: These were gentlemen who were a little older, correct, and

893
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 3: one of them was so they both got to play.

894
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 4: Three of us played from the blues and one from

895
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 4: the whites.

896
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 2: And my guy from the right from the white was the.

897
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: Big Buckeyes fan and he was very he was formidable. Man,

898
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 4: he's from thirty nine on the front.

899
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 2: That's getting after it.

900
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we were really ahead the whole time. And

901
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 4: two of the last three holes he stroked on alone

902
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: and went part or he made he went on two

903
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: of the last four holes. I'm sorry he went birdie

904
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 4: for net eagle to beat a natural birdy of mine. Yeah,

905
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 4: and then Sims made a five for four, and then

906
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: on eighteen with the match on the line, he had

907
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 4: to make a four for three and he did and

908
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 4: I parted. And that was that.

909
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: Wow, rolls and they want and you were able to

910
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 2: stay relatively dry. Yeah.

911
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: It rained really hard for about thirty minutes and that

912
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 4: was it. Right away or towards the end, after the

913
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 4: on the third hole we had we had bootsy was

914
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 4: it was very frustrating.

915
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 5: I'm still very frustrated.

916
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: You don't say it. I can't tell you, I can't tell,

917
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: I can't tell very he's very happy about it. That's

918
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: the happiest season, Sims like.

919
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: Dude, we totally blew him, Like Simsy, we played the

920
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: we had a lead, we're two up. It's got cold.

921
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: Look at him shaking hands, sneakers, the coat. So those

922
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 4: are jeans the first I had a jean jean.

923
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: It's a jean with a gorgeous blueberry blue blazer.

924
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 4: Like we were up to after fourteen and played the

925
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 4: final four holes gross one under.

926
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah and lost. Yeah, great job out of them. What

927
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: are you going to do? You had a whole lot

928
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: you can do.

929
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 4: No, we had We all got to play the same

930
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: ties though we played that my crusade. If you want

931
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 4: to have you can break it down. Have a flight

932
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 4: where everybody plays from the whites, and then have a

933
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 4: flight where everybody plays from the blues.

934
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, and sign up. You want to play from the whites,

935
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 5: sign up for this flight.

936
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 4: Especial because a lot of these guys not in this case,

937
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 4: but there are people in these tournaments who play from

938
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 4: the Blues and their normal games when they play with

939
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 4: their friends and then because their age allows them in

940
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 4: the tournaments, they get to play from.

941
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 5: The whites, they go do that. I gotta tell you something,

942
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 5: and if it doesn't.

943
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: I think you should do instead of doing it the age,

944
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: I think it should be handicap. Your handicap is where

945
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 3: you play from, because everybody.

946
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 5: To play from the same I don't.

947
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: I can't get there with you. You play more than me.

948
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: But I thought it's a different goal.

949
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine. That can be your view. That's fine.

950
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: It's a fine view I do. I'm not disputing it.

951
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that the idea that the problem that

952
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: I have, and I'm on your side on this is

953
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: the age part of it, because there are plenty of guys.

954
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: Now, what's the age where you can go up?

955
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 4: I think it's like fifty five, could be six. Okay,

956
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

957
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: We're in better shape longer than we've ever been, and

958
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: the equipment advantages are bigger than they've ever been. The

959
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: ball advantage is bigger than it's ever been. That all

960
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 3: of it does, is it It takes a guy. It'll

961
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: levels the playing field. So I would much rather have

962
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: you play tea boxes based on your handicap versus your age,

963
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: because if you're fifty six, once you can play up

964
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: at fifty six, you could probably still be in peak

965
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: shape and probably still hit. There's probably a ton of

966
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: guys that have been fifty, so you cant to eighty

967
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: I mean easy. I mean there's a lot of great

968
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: players who are that age for sure. So I don't

969
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: to me, that's the problem is the age.

970
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 5: Here's the thing.

971
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 4: Unless it's like after seventy or something, that's crazy. And

972
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know this or not. You

973
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 4: may so I'm probably not. So if somebody is let's

974
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: call him a thirteen, we'll say you're a thirteen index, Okay,

975
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 4: you would be, we'll call it. Well, this is just

976
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 4: for the sake of arguments. You might be a thirteen

977
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: from the whites, would be your course handicap from the whites, okay,

978
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: But then if you move back to the blues, you're

979
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 4: probably a seventeen. So it's your handicap, isn't just It's

980
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 4: not like I.

981
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: Get But isn't all aren't all handicaps measured from the

982
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: same spot.

983
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 4: No, Well, if you're all from the same teas, yeah,

984
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 4: I mean, do that exactly so that's what I'm saying.

985
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: I'm saying just because this guy's at thirteen, the handicap

986
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 4: changes based on the tee.

987
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 5: Sure your number actually changes.

988
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: Now here's the part that's interesting is let's say right now,

989
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 4: I'm a four from the Blues. From the Whites, I'm

990
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 4: a two, so I lose fifty percent of my handicap.

991
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 4: But when I give them two shots to go up there, yeah,

992
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: I've been hit all four par fives and two. It's

993
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 4: worth four shots to me. Yeah, So it doesn't make

994
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: any sense. They are only losing twenty five percent their

995
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: handicap to move up. Yeah, So it's not equitable. That's

996
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 4: why you just have to play the same course. So

997
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: like if you want to play from the whites, wall,

998
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: play the whites and everybody's handicap adjusts your handicaps and more.

999
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: Your index then applies to the rating and the slope

1000
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: that factors in, which are different for every te Yeah,

1001
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 4: and that changes it. The only way that's equitable is

1002
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 4: everybody's playing from the same tea.

1003
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: There's I mean, here's the deal though, Like everybody playing

1004
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: from the same tea, Like what size handicap, Like what

1005
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: is the point where it's hard for you to beat

1006
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 3: a high handicap, good decent player, Like what's the number

1007
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: are what's the hardest number player for you to be

1008
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: competitive that you're like, ah, they might get me.

1009
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 4: One on one, Yes, one on one, and two man's

1010
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: a totally different game, right, So in one on one,

1011
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: probably somebody who's like a really good like nine or ten,

1012
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 4: because it's.

1013
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: The toughest for you to play game because you've gotta

1014
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: give them holes and they they're still good enough.

1015
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 4: That you're still gonna gonna get like shots on a

1016
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 4: third of the golf course, which is basically almost half

1017
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: of the par fours and fives, and they're good golfers.

1018
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so those those are the hardest. Yeah.

1019
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 4: But in a two man, when you're playing somebody at

1020
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: this level, a high level like that, Like in a

1021
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: two man, all you're asking the high handicapper to do, Like,

1022
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 4: if the high handicapper makes six pars.

1023
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 5: You're usually winning.

1024
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lock, yeah because those count as birdies.

1025
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, if you have.

1026
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 4: A guy who makes on his individual struggles he had

1027
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 4: four where he stroked alone, if he pars all four

1028
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 4: of those and then adds in two natural birdies on

1029
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 4: that it's tough. We played really well.

1030
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's unfortunate.

1031
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how to do it.

1032
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 4: I don't know what the I think in a two

1033
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 4: man game, handicaps should be sixty seven percent, should be

1034
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: two thirds. I also think there's a world in which

1035
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 4: a handicaps should just be half a shot. So if

1036
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 4: I beat you, I beat you. If we tie, you win.

1037
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 4: But I'm looking at through my lens. Yeah, you're giving stroke.

1038
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: You're the one who's giving it. Yeah, But in a

1039
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 4: two man sixty seven percent makes a little bit more

1040
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 4: sense to me because in a one on one it

1041
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: should be full. And in a one on one, even

1042
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 4: if he did that the six pars and the whatever, yeah,

1043
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 4: one on one, I'd probably still beat him because he's

1044
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: gonna just give me a handful of holes where he

1045
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 4: makes doubles.

1046
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, because then you got to play every stroke.

1047
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: It's different than if you're if you're bouncing off somebody. Yeah,

1048
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: it's interesting. I mean, the whole thing is viewed, the

1049
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: idea being so that everybody can play against everybody, but

1050
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: there's it's also a pretty subjective situation.

1051
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: And then you have you know, you'll just gonna play

1052
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: same teeth. That's different things.

1053
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, he'd get strokes on form me.

1054
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: But even that, those aren't always genuine. I mean you

1055
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 3: see people who sprint to go say oh I'm on

1056
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: a card of ninety two, this will be lovely, and

1057
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: then you play events all summer off based off of that,

1058
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, so there's no.

1059
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: They have no perfect that a little bit so that

1060
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: it's it's it's out of twenty scores, your lowest eight

1061
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 4: are that twenty are the ones that count for your handicap.

1062
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 5: Your lowest state, low estate.

1063
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: Darren, I don't understand why golf leagues don't just have

1064
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: divisions and play straight up. It's because there's not enough

1065
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: golfers to fill the higher divisions you still have.

1066
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 4: I think there's enough I higher, He means lower, I

1067
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: would guess.

1068
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, to fill the lower Yeah, yeah, I think he

1069
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: means like there's not enough great golfers. Yeah, there there are.

1070
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: There are, There are for sure. And the problem though,

1071
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: is like you're a two, and if you're so, then

1072
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: who would be in your group?

1073
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 5: There's plenty of people.

1074
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: But even if you're you, But I mean, to what

1075
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: number is in your group.

1076
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 5: Eight would be the max. I would say.

1077
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: Eight's and eight and under, and oh you don't give

1078
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: a stroke to anybody?

1079
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: No, I would. You still would give strokes, but it's

1080
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: only a couple, you know what I mean.

1081
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like.

1082
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 5: Although in a two man.

1083
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 4: Though, if you get to the most dangerous two man

1084
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 4: team is if you put like me with like a seven,

1085
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 4: like this guy a sixteen or seventeen, who can.

1086
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: Like who can get make a lot of bars? Yeah?

1087
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 5: Impossible.

1088
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 4: Me and Doug Bloom, Ohio State legend once beat somebody

1089
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 4: ten and eighth.

1090
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 5: We won the first ten.

1091
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: Holes, yeah, because he was in eighteen and I was

1092
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 4: a zero time, so we stroked down every hole in

1093
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 4: between me and him. We made like I made a

1094
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: few birdies and he made a bunch of bars.

1095
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: And it was like good enough. Yeah, that'll do it.

1096
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 4: But I like it better when it's tight, a tighter dispersion.

1097
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: I think if you did zero to eight, nine to eighteen,

1098
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: and then nineteen plus, those are the flights, and you

1099
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: could have the nineteen plus flights play from the whites,

1100
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 4: I think you'd be good. But these foots should play

1101
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 4: from the blues.

1102
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: I would just only Amendment I would, I wouldn't have

1103
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: to go all the way to eighteen. Would maybe go nine.

1104
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 4: To eighteen's are still a bogie golfer?

1105
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 5: That's that's all.

1106
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all right.

1107
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: You have you're you're a golfer.

1108
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. The parade of stars continue, Oh baby.

1109
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 3: Super Bowl winning Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt Warner going

1110
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: to join us at the top of the hour.

1111
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: You listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN.

1112
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, an official

1113
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: sports betting partner of Your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty

1114
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: esp and Cleveland.

1115
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: All Right.

1116
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: Second hour here Cleveland bron Daley presented by bally Bet,

1117
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: official sports footing partner of Your Cleveland Browns. Time toad

1118
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: out on the Twisted Tea Hard Iced Tea Hotline, official

1119
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 3: sponsor of your Cleveland Browns. Keep It Twisted Cleveland from

1120
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: one Hall of.

1121
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: Famer to the next. Charles Woodson in the previous hour.

1122
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 3: Now super Bowl winning quarterback and NFL Hall of Famer

1123
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: Kurt Warner joining us, of course of the NFL Network,

1124
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: and he joins us on the Twisted Tea Hotline. Kurt

1125
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 3: thank you so much for taking the time. Let's dive

1126
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: in with something you are very very passionate about, and

1127
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: that is young quarterbacks. We've got two of them. We

1128
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: got Dylan Gabriel, We've got shoot Or Sanders. Both looked

1129
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: really good at mini camp. If you were at our

1130
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 3: mini camp, what would you be looking for from each

1131
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: of them to lead you to believe or to know

1132
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: that this is going well.

1133
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: Well.

1134
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 9: I mean, I think when you look at both of

1135
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 9: these young guys, you say to yourself, neither one is

1136
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 9: going to be able to live in the athletic world

1137
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 9: at the NFL level. In other words, you know, running

1138
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 9: around being a playmaker, trying to create with their legs.

1139
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 9: These guys are both going to if they're going to

1140
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 9: excel at the NFL level, they're going to excel inside

1141
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 9: the pocket. And so what I'm looking for is not

1142
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 9: only the delivery of the football, because both of these

1143
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 9: guys have shown that they've got the ability to do that.

1144
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 9: I'm looking for decision making. I'm looking for the ability

1145
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 9: to process information and see all the different things that

1146
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 9: they need to see, whether it's coverage, rotation, whether it's

1147
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 9: press understanding how to get the ball out in those situations,

1148
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 9: get the ball out quick and get it to their playmakers.

1149
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 9: So that to me is, you know, is I think

1150
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 9: primary with these two guys, you know, and ultimately how

1151
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 9: this thing all shakes out will be you know, based

1152
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 9: on on that. You know, and you can go beyond

1153
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 9: that and look at Kenny and you know, obviously we

1154
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 9: know Joe is Joe, but then go to Kenny. Kenny's

1155
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 9: gonna play the same sort of way. And so that

1156
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 9: to me is what's going to be the breakdown here

1157
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 9: is who's the best pocket passer in terms of this

1158
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 9: decision making, processing and then delivering the football where it

1159
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 9: needs to go.

1160
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 5: Kurt Nathan Sigura here.

1161
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: We'll talk about the rookies in a second, but talking

1162
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 4: about Kenny Pickett, I thought it was kind of interesting

1163
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 4: when he left Pittsburgh that Arthur Smith's offense, or at

1164
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 4: least what it asked of a quarterback, seemed to me

1165
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 4: to be probably a good fit for him. We never

1166
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 4: saw him in that, We'll see him in something similar

1167
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 4: here with Kevin Stefanski. Do you think the things that

1168
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett does well will be exc situated by this

1169
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 4: offense and vice versa.

1170
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think it could be. I kind

1171
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 9: of look at quarterbacks in a couple of different should

1172
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 9: probably say, three different rounds. Obviously, you've got the guys

1173
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 9: like the Lamar Jackson's and Josh Allen's and guys that

1174
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 9: you know can be kind of the run pass dual

1175
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 9: threat type guys. And then when you get to more

1176
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 9: of the dropback passers, you know, there's there's guys that

1177
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 9: are really good at the dropback game, you know, spread

1178
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 9: the field out, make decisions, see the entire field, deal

1179
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 9: to football. And then there's other guys that you know

1180
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 9: are going to be better when you limit things conceptually

1181
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 9: and and you know, you limit the number of receivers

1182
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 9: that are out and you know, more play action where

1183
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,479
Speaker 9: it's more defined for you, you know, on a down

1184
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 9: to down basis. And I think you know, when you

1185
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 9: look at Kenny, I think that's kind of the mold

1186
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 9: that you know that he needs to be in at

1187
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 9: this time in his career. I've never seen him, you know,

1188
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 9: really be able to be that guy that can drop

1189
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 9: back thirty five forty times and just deal the football.

1190
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 9: And so knowing what co Stefanski wants to do, and

1191
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 9: he's going to take a little more of the rains

1192
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 9: this year. I mean, you know, he's always been a

1193
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 9: guy that likes to get into the run heavy formations

1194
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 9: and live and run and play action. You know that limits,

1195
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 9: you know, the five out, four out spread the field,

1196
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 9: you know, see everything tight type decision making for a quarterback.

1197
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 9: And so I definitely feel like that that plays into,

1198
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 9: you know, what Kenny would be good at right now,

1199
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 9: and it simplifies things for him, you know, where he

1200
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 9: can go in and be more of a complimentary piece

1201
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 9: than having to be the integral piece to a pass offense.

1202
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 9: And so I think that bodes really really well for him.

1203
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 4: Kurt, when you talk about quarterbacks and quarterback play and

1204
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: you find guys, let's say, in this third bucket, which

1205
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 4: is what you know you Kevin Sancy wants an operator

1206
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 4: his offense, much like Kyle Shanahan wants that and has

1207
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,479
Speaker 4: that with Brock Purdy right now in San Francisco, who's

1208
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: an incredibly talented player. When you have something like that,

1209
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: how difficult is it for guys like let's say Dylan

1210
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 4: Gabriel or Shador Sanders who basically have been in shotgun

1211
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: have not done some of that. Back to the defense

1212
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 4: hard play action or certainly not as much as you know,

1213
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: guys who are very proficient in this offense or style

1214
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: of offense. How hard does that transition? And what is

1215
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: the most important thing for a quarterback from your pre

1216
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 4: snap mental picture to when you snap your head back

1217
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 4: around and to be able to execute these things on

1218
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 4: time and in rhythm.

1219
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 9: Well, you know, there's a couple of different elements to that,

1220
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 9: you know, and it really comes down to what you're

1221
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 9: asking them to do with the play action. Is it

1222
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 9: a quick play action gets your head turned and get

1223
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 9: the ball out quickly, or is it a longer play

1224
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 9: action where you have plenty of time to get your

1225
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 9: head turned see what is trying to transpire attacking more

1226
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 9: down the field. And I don't think you know, I mean, obviously,

1227
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 9: you know, taking snaps under center, I mean, I don't

1228
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 9: know that's football one on one to me, But it's

1229
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 9: not for everybody. I know. Now you know, so so

1230
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 9: getting comfortable with that sort of stuff. But you know,

1231
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 9: I mean, let's also think about in shotgun snaps. I mean,

1232
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 9: the one thing that every time you have a shotgun snap,

1233
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 9: you have to take your eyes off the defense, you know,

1234
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 9: similar to if you're gonna run a play action, you're

1235
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 9: gonna be able to see the defense, and then all

1236
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 9: of a sudden, you're not gonna see the defense as

1237
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 9: you make your play bait and you're gonna have to

1238
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 9: find the defense again. So in shotgun you have to

1239
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 9: do that every snap, even though it may not be

1240
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 9: quite as prolonged, it's part of what you have to do.

1241
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 9: And you know, and again you know Costefanski and what

1242
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 9: he's been in the past has been more of that

1243
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 9: down the field, try to get the chunk throws off

1244
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 9: of the play action. And so I don't think it's

1245
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 9: as you know, quick play action, you know, set your

1246
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 9: fee to get your ball out, you know, or see

1247
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 9: the linebacker and get the ball up over the top.

1248
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 7: Of the line.

1249
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 9: It's not as much of that, not that they're not

1250
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 9: going to have that. That's always going to be an element,

1251
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 9: but what they really want to do is run the

1252
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 9: ball and then get those second level chunk throws. Which

1253
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 9: is it quite as quick developing, you know, or force

1254
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 9: a quarterback to have to you know, turn process and

1255
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 9: see everything quick. There's not as much of a timing

1256
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 9: element to some of those things that you know, that

1257
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 9: would present, you know, more of a challenge.

1258
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: I guess, Kurt, when these guys are making this move

1259
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 3: from from college football to the National Football League, there's

1260
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: so many adjustments and elevators of your game that are required,

1261
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: the speed and all of that. But one thing that's

1262
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 3: jumped out to me, and there's been a lot of

1263
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 3: these examples of this and the lead up to the

1264
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 3: draft and then after the draft, is so many of

1265
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 3: these guys playing quarterback in college come out and Kurt,

1266
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: they look at the sideline, they decipher something off of

1267
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 3: a sign, they go right to the line of scrimmage,

1268
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: they clap, and then they go and so now all

1269
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: of a sudden they're having to sp out this verbage.

1270
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: Then they're gonna have audibles off of that verbage. Let

1271
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 3: alone all of the complexities of the offense, the mental

1272
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: part of it has got to be as big a

1273
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 3: hurdle as any. When when you talk to these young guys,

1274
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 3: what piece of advice do you give about that side

1275
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: of the.

1276
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 9: Game, you know, I mean, you know, the unfortunate thing

1277
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 9: is I don't get to talk to a lot of them.

1278
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 9: You know, I make myself available, but I never, you know,

1279
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 9: get a chance to really get in a room and

1280
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 9: dive into tape with most of these guys. But you know, again,

1281
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 9: that to me is you know, the least of it.

1282
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 9: When we're talking about learning how to call a play, like,

1283
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 9: you know, that's something you can do in your dorm

1284
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 9: room at night, is practice the plays. But I think

1285
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 9: the biggest thing for me when it comes to spitting

1286
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 9: out verbage and plays is you have to get so

1287
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 9: comfortable with your offense that that stuff becomes second nature.

1288
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 9: And you know, we used to always talk about, you know,

1289
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 9: it's like learning another language. So if you've ever learned

1290
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 9: another language, in the early stages of learning that language,

1291
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 9: you know, you'll learn a word in Spanish and the

1292
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 9: first thing that happens is you have to translate it

1293
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 9: back to English. And that's kind of the way it

1294
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 9: works when you're learning, you know, a new offense is

1295
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 9: you're like, oh, this protection was this protection when I

1296
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 9: was at Colorado or when I was at Oregon, and

1297
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 9: you have to translate it. You know, to be able

1298
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 9: to be at your best, you've got to get to

1299
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 9: the point where when you hear a word, it just

1300
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 9: automatically translates to you know what it is, or you

1301
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 9: understand it in that other language, and then you start

1302
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 9: to visualize these plays. And so when a coach gives

1303
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 9: you a call, you're not just trying to go, okay,

1304
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 9: what did he say? You're going, oh, I know that play.

1305
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 9: You know, strip's right, skat right, whatever, you know, and

1306
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 9: it just comes off your tongue because you see it,

1307
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 9: you mentally see it in your mind, and that to

1308
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 9: me is the key. And it takes time obviously to

1309
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 9: get there. You're not gonna expect a guy in rookie

1310
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 9: minicamp to get there, but that's the whole key. Stud

1311
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 9: So to me, it's more about time, memorization, understanding. And

1312
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 9: so when the coach says trips in your mind right away, oh,

1313
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 9: I visually see trips. When he says a certain protection,

1314
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 9: Oh I know, that's you know, where the back's going

1315
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 9: and where the offensive like, that's what you have to

1316
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 9: get tough. So that's going to take time. I don't

1317
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 9: worry about most of these guys getting to that point.

1318
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 9: But you know, again, the question becomes, especially when you're

1319
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 9: in a you know, in a quarterback battle, is the

1320
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 9: sooner and quicker you can get to that comfortable spot

1321
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 9: within an offense. The more you can just react and

1322
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 9: play football, the more you're thinking and translating, the harder

1323
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 9: that's going to be. And so it could come quicker

1324
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 9: for one of these guys than you know, somebody else,

1325
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 9: and that could give them a huge advantage in the

1326
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 9: early stages of the competition, Kurt.

1327
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: That comes from obviously a lot of study, a lot

1328
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: of time, a lot of dedication off the field. On

1329
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 4: the field, you get better through reps, and yes, you

1330
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 4: can get mental reps if it's not your rep. But

1331
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 4: the Browns have four guys. They've got Picket, they've got Flacka,

1332
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 4: they've got Gabriel, they've got your door, Sanders, how would

1333
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 4: you if this was your quarterback room? How would you

1334
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 4: go about divvying up reps to make this in some

1335
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: ways a fair competition because I kind of think it is.

1336
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think it's very It should be

1337
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 9: a very fair because none of these guys outside of

1338
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 9: Joe have really approved themselves at this level. So I

1339
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 9: don't think any of them really go in, you know

1340
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 9: with this. Oh you know, I'm getting the nod right

1341
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 9: now over another guy because you know, because of what

1342
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 9: I've done and what I've accomplished. I only any of

1343
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 9: them are like that. And so you know, for me,

1344
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 9: in the competition, obviously, you got to get your starter ready.

1345
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 9: I don't know if they know who their starter is.

1346
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 9: I mean, I hear a lot of people say Joe's

1347
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 9: going to be the starter to start the season. I

1348
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 9: don't know if that's what they're thinking or whatever, but

1349
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 9: you got to get your starter ready. But then beyond that,

1350
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 9: I think there are plenty of reps in training camp

1351
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 9: and you can find ways, you know, to instead of

1352
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 9: now having one seven on seven, having two seven on sevens,

1353
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 9: and you can mix these guys in and you know,

1354
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 9: for me, you know, one of the biggest things we

1355
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 9: always used to say in training camp is the hardest

1356
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 9: thing when it's a competition is if one guy always

1357
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 9: goes with the threes and the other guys going with

1358
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 9: the twos or the ones, you have more guys that

1359
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 9: understand what they're doing, and so it's it's a harder

1360
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 9: competition to go, Okay, we got all these young guys

1361
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 9: going with this other young quarterback and we're trying to

1362
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 9: get a gauge on who they are. So I think

1363
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 9: to mix those reps up and to make sure that

1364
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 9: they're going and getting quality reps with guys that understands

1365
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 9: what they're doing, you know, that play at the right

1366
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 9: speed and make the right adjustments, and that's the best

1367
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 9: way to be able to you know, to let this

1368
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 9: thing play out. And so you know, I have a

1369
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 9: feeling that's what they're going to do, is they're going

1370
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 9: to give all three of those guys. They're going to

1371
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 9: mix them up on a day to day basis and

1372
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 9: say show me, you know, to me, it would be

1373
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 9: like even if you're at the number three and you

1374
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 9: have a really good practice one day, it'd be like

1375
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 9: next day, I'm putting you up to the number, you know,

1376
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 9: two spot, and I'm going to see how you react there.

1377
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 9: And I'm going to see how the other guy reacts

1378
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 9: when he drops to number three. How does that affect him?

1379
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 9: And so you want to see that kind of mental

1380
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 9: part of it, you know, beyond the mental of reading, defenses, delivering.

1381
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 9: You want to see how they handle the competition, how

1382
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 9: they handle the pressure, how they handle it when they

1383
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 9: move up and down, you know, when they're having success

1384
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 9: or when they're struggling a little bit. And I think

1385
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 9: those are the different things that you try to use

1386
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 9: training camp the best you can to figure out some

1387
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 9: of those nuances, because none of these guys will really

1388
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 9: probably be in a regular season game before before they

1389
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 9: can make those decisions.

1390
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 4: When it comes to the rookies. Dylan, Gabriel, Schador, Sanders Kurt.

1391
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 4: What are a couple of things or a thing that

1392
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 4: you saw on tape with those two that that tells

1393
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 4: you or gives you an idea of how they will

1394
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 4: be successful or why they will be successful at this level.

1395
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, let's start with Dylan. You know, good football player.

1396
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 9: You know, everywhere he went he had success. He's a

1397
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 9: guy that, uh, you know, delivers the football quickly, which

1398
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 9: is something uh that that I really like is the

1399
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 9: ability to see it and get it out, you know,

1400
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 9: very quickly to his playmakers. You know, I thought when

1401
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 9: he was at the combine, you know, being a smaller guy,

1402
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 9: you kind of want to see the pace of the

1403
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 9: football coming off of his hand. When we went to

1404
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 9: the combine, I thought of the guys that threw, he

1405
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 9: had the best pace on the football from like zero

1406
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 9: to twenty five of all the guys. So so I

1407
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 9: don't really worry about you know, that part of the

1408
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 9: arm strength and getting the ball out quick. I thought

1409
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 9: the ball got away from him a little bit more

1410
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 9: down the field, and so that'd be something that you know,

1411
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 9: I'll be paying attention to when when I see him play.

1412
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 9: It's just the control of the football, you know, down

1413
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 9: the field and when he's really got to you know,

1414
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 9: push it, you know, being a smaller guy on the

1415
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 9: other side, which she dor. I mean, I think he

1416
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 9: was the most accurate quarterback coming out.

1417
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 7: Of this draft.

1418
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 9: Like when he set his feet and was confident in

1419
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 9: what he was seeing or confident and the guys up

1420
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 9: in front of him, he delivered the football very, very accurately.

1421
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 9: And I love that he both of these guys, but

1422
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 9: I love that Shedor throws a very catchable ball. A

1423
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 9: lot of people look at that and go, oh my gosh,

1424
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 9: I'm not sure he's got the arm strength.

1425
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 7: That he needs.

1426
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 9: Well, you know, to me, it's about you know, getting

1427
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 9: it where you need to get it as soft as

1428
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 9: you possibly can before the defense gets there. And you know,

1429
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 9: it wasn't a guy that threw a lot of interceptions

1430
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 9: or put the ball in harm's way a lot, even

1431
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 9: though there were times that you thought oh, maybe throw

1432
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 9: that a little bit harder. I think there is a

1433
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 9: beauty in an art form to understanding how to make

1434
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 9: different throws and not having to ever overthrow the football.

1435
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 9: I thought Shador did that really really well in college.

1436
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 9: Now the biggest thing for me is there was times

1437
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 9: that he wasn't comfortable in the pocket. His feet were

1438
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 9: moving all over. You know, he wasn't standing in and

1439
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 9: making the quick read and he was looking to get

1440
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 9: out of the pocket. Now is that because you know,

1441
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 9: that's a part of his game, or is that because

1442
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 9: the offensive line there struggled the last couple of years

1443
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 9: and you know, and he got a false sense of insecurity.

1444
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 9: I would say, you know, where he wasn't quite sure

1445
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 9: and you know, he felt like there was going to

1446
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 9: be pressure even when there wasn't. So that's kind of

1447
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 9: the piece that I'm looking for at this next level.

1448
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 9: Is you know, does he have that piece? Is he

1449
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 9: more confident in the pocket because of the guys in

1450
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 9: front of him? Otherwise I think he's got to, you know,

1451
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 9: get a little bit better at you know, feeling confident,

1452
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 9: knowing what he's seeing and getting the ball out quick.

1453
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 3: Kurt always appreciate the conversation. Thanks for making us smarter.

1454
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: We appreciate you greatly. Thanks for your time today, sir.

1455
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 9: You got it my pleasure.

1456
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: There he goes super.

1457
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: Bowl winning quarterback Pro Football Hall of Fame or Kurt

1458
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: Warner from the NFL Network joining us on the Twisted

1459
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: Tea Hotline. Twisted T Hard iced T, official sponsor of

1460
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 3: your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. It is a

1461
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 3: mailbag Thursday edition of the program. Still time to get

1462
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 3: those mailbag questions into gibbe at Brown's Underscore Daily. We'll

1463
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 3: go around the sports world and some news in college

1464
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 3: football here coming up next to Cleveland Browns Daily presented

1465
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 3: by bally Bet, official sportsmanning partner your Cleveland Browns on

1466
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: eight fifty ESPN.

1467
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 2: Cleveland.

1468
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, an official sports

1469
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: betting partner of Your Cleveland Browns on eight to fifty

1470
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: esp and Cleveland.

1471
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: How can el Sarir Sawyer Serrus Injuries?

1472
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 3: What a hundred elk ohio for a free case for you?

1473
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 3: Alcoon Elx, proud partner of your Cleveland Browns. Still time

1474
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: to get your questions into the mailbag. At Browns Score Daily,

1475
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 3: we will answer those momentarily. A little bit of breaking

1476
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: news in the football world. This from the college football world.

1477
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 3: The powers that be have voted and the college football

1478
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 3: Playoff in twenty twenty five will be seeded one through

1479
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 3: twelve in order. So last year, for example, yet Arizona State,

1480
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 3: Boise State get buys. Those days are done, so they'll

1481
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: just go one through twelve, top four getting buys. So

1482
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: that's where they're headed for the final year, and then

1483
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: they'll go to sixteen teams probably by twenty twenty six.

1484
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 5: Perfect.

1485
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's where that goes. So the weather sucks.

1486
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 3: And in large part because of that, we got home

1487
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 3: from the lacrosse last night, which we were soaking wet

1488
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 3: and freezing, and I thought, well, you know what, I'm

1489
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 3: gonna watch a little hoop I haven't haven't done. So now,

1490
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 3: some of it was nostalgia, and it was a little

1491
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 3: bit of Knicks, Pacers and Reggie Miller and all of

1492
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 3: the things that I thought of. But the one thing

1493
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 3: that you have to rememberbout nostalgia is you remember it

1494
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 3: the way that it was in your head. And it's

1495
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 3: worth remembering that those series between the Nicks and the Pacers,

1496
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: while competitive, was awful basketball, Yeah, largely awful. This was

1497
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: not This was not that last night. This was far

1498
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 3: from it. I could not stop watching the fact anytime

1499
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 3: they went to the one end that LD was sitting

1500
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 3: next to David Zaslov, who was sitting next to John Ham,

1501
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: and Susie was right last told the four of them together.

1502
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 3: Anytime the NIXT did anything good or bad, I just

1503
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 3: looked right at LD to see how he would respond.

1504
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 5: LD was fantastic.

1505
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 3: I mean that, I could not shake that they were

1506
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 3: all there like that's a curb episode. Susie Larry, the

1507
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 3: president of HBO, and John Ham.

1508
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 4: It's incredible. It's an incredible group. There's no doubt about it.

1509
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 4: It was a real powerhouse lineup right there. I think

1510
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 4: it should have been a curb episode. I think it

1511
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 4: would be a fitting curb episode, all right. Couple of

1512
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 4: things thing number one, because there are a great many

1513
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 4: things to digest from this. Since nineteen ninety six, teams

1514
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 4: that have trailed by seven in the final fifty seconds

1515
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 4: of the fourth quarter overtime in the playoffs are four

1516
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 4: and seventeen oh two. The twenty twenty five Indiana Pacers

1517
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 4: have three of those wins.

1518
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 2: Jeez, that's crazy.

1519
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 4: So everybody other than the twenty twenty five Pacers are

1520
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 4: one and seventeen oh one thousand, seven hundred and two

1521
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 4: in those situations they won three. They won one in

1522
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 4: each series. So far. They did it the Bucks, they

1523
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 4: did it to us, and now they're doing it to

1524
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 4: the Knicks. Okay, that's that. There's another stat that I'm

1525
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 4: looking for from the Pacers where it's that they what

1526
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 4: they really did was is the first time ever.

1527
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 3: It's the one in like fourteen hundred, it's up by

1528
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 3: fourteen or more and with just over two Oh, look

1529
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: at Brock, young Brock's got it in there.

1530
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 5: Good Brock. Perfect.

1531
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 2: That was a great job out of him.

1532
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 3: So he literally held it up and then he went

1533
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 3: like this, I'm looking for it, and you're looking for it,

1534
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 3: and he goes, it's right there, and sure it is.

1535
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: Uh here it is.

1536
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 3: The Knick set in ninety eight point eight percent chance

1537
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 3: to win with one minute left. The record of team's

1538
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 3: trailing by nine plus in the final minute the fourth

1539
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 3: quarter or playoff game since nineteen ninety eight were oh

1540
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,439
Speaker 3: and one thousand, four hundred and fourteen. They were down

1541
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 3: nine with fifty two seconds to go. This is as

1542
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 3: much on the Knicks as it is the Pacers winning it.

1543
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 3: The haphazard nature that they played the last couple of minutes.

1544
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 3: They actually got bailed out. Jalen Brunson threw it to nobody.

1545
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 3: They were very lucky that it ended up in the

1546
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 3: hands of I want to say, I can't remember who.

1547
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 5: It was, o Kenobi.

1548
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a no yeah, and then he went

1549
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: one for two. Wanted to to get That's why they lost. Yeah,

1550
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 2: I mean they blew it a lot of different ways.

1551
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 2: They played it so loosey goosey, but.

1552
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 4: The Pacers also just won it. I mean they went

1553
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 4: in their last seven threes.

1554
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1555
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 5: Smith did something that has never been done before.

1556
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 4: He scored twenty points in four minutes in the second

1557
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 4: half of a playoff game.

1558
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 5: Blah blah, blah blah blah, never been done.

1559
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: What he said was three is coming in the last

1560
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 2: five minutes, six or six. Yeah.

1561
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1562
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 4: And then they hit their first one in overtime as well.

1563
01:08:54,360 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 4: So here's the question I have for you, Steph Curry.

1564
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 4: Can we agree Steph Curry is the best shooter ever? Okay,

1565
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 4: if you ask Steph Curry, stand at the top of

1566
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 4: the key.

1567
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1568
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 4: He doesn't even have to run back like Caliburton did.

1569
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: Yep.

1570
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 4: How many shots does he have to take for him

1571
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 4: to hit the back of the iron exactly like that?

1572
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 4: So it goes that high in the air and comes

1573
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 4: straight through the basket.

1574
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be lower because I think

1575
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 3: he's so accurate that I think he would he might

1576
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 3: know how to hit that spot to make it do

1577
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 3: it because he's taken so many shots. But I still think,

1578
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 3: as I say lower, I'm still thinking it would take

1579
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 3: like one hundred attempts to get that to do it

1580
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 3: that way, I think it's a one to one hundred

1581
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 3: shot even for the best player of all the best

1582
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 3: shooter v.

1583
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 4: Just standing there, just let alone sprinting oh backwards.

1584
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: It's an impossible thing for the for it to hit.

1585
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 3: I mean, as much basketball as you and I have

1586
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 3: played in our lives, the amount of times that that happens,

1587
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 3: it's less than a handful where it's a straight up

1588
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 3: and then in I mean that almost never happens. Brock,

1589
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 3: you played a lot of basketball, Like how many do

1590
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 3: you even remember in games? There can't be that many.

1591
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 3: I mean, it's such a rare occurrence.

1592
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 4: The other thing you have to think about is the

1593
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 4: spin on the ball. Halliburton has a really awkward spin

1594
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 4: on the ball versus Curries's and over ends, so that's

1595
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 4: another thing to take into account.

1596
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: It's a good point.

1597
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, we saw the

1598
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 4: weird Kauhai one, but even that one didn't go. That

1599
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 4: was a run that was front of the rim though,

1600
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 4: and it bounced like this high. And what was bad

1601
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 4: this was this was above like shot clock height. Yeah, yeah, incredible.

1602
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 4: Then he's doing the choke thing, which was awesome.

1603
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 2: I loved it.

1604
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 4: I loved it too, loved it. But then it wasn't over.

1605
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 5: And then the Knicks still couldn't get it.

1606
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 3: He would have looked like such a buffoon if they

1607
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,440
Speaker 3: don't win, but he did not.

1608
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: And then get Reggie Hiller point.

1609
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 4: I love Reggie on the call of it.

1610
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 2: This big picture. This is what I think. I think.

1611
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 3: You have a couple of things. The weather is garbage here.

1612
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 3: The weather is garbage within five hundred miles of here,

1613
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 3: and within five hundred miles of here is fifty percent

1614
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 3: of the US population. Okay, so my guess is a

1615
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 3: great many people watched last night like we did for

1616
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 3: nostalgia purposes and for for something to do on a

1617
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 3: cold day that normally isn't cold, right yep, And what

1618
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: you got treated to.

1619
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: Was an all timer, all timer.

1620
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 3: So, as I said, I think I said this, I

1621
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 3: said it on one of the shows earlier this week,

1622
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 3: like this is a final four where there really isn't

1623
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 3: anybody who roots for any of these teams other than

1624
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 3: people from those towns. Well he's well, he's from Indiana.

1625
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: But my point is is that now because of what

1626
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 3: you delivered, now you have a chance for something that's rarer,

1627
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 3: which is water cooler sports. Yep, yep, I will Now

1628
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be Hey, did you see that?

1629
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 3: And now there's gonna be the Friday night. Friday night

1630
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 3: in this part of the country is gonna be garbage again. Weatherwise,

1631
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 3: I think they'll do a nice number. You're coming out

1632
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 3: of the Western Conference Finals being down twenty four percent

1633
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 3: year to year. Like nobody watched Oklahoma City, Minnesota on Tuesday,

1634
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 3: nobody did starting Animal. No, I don't think they are

1635
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 3: a different animal I do at all. They're not only

1636
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 3: people from New York here. They're not a ratings.

1637
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 4: There's how many Knick fans do you so you think

1638
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 4: or you think? I mean the ras are out, aren't they?

1639
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 4: Were they the same as the Western Conference or were

1640
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 4: they better?

1641
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 2: I don't think they're out yet. It was just last night.

1642
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: The Roe West ones are available today, so the East

1643
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 3: ones will be available probably tomorrow morning.

1644
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 5: I think it'll be a higher number.

1645
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 3: But I think the weather's going to be a part

1646
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 3: of it. And I think the fact that there's nostalgia

1647
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 3: and then it delivered it gives you the chance to

1648
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 3: get a little boost. But this, I mean, the Knicks

1649
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 3: are not the Celtics. They're not anything in that vicinity.

1650
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 4: I don't know, my buddy, it's a d N manta.

1651
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 4: But their second row, yeah, yeah, they were right at

1652
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 4: the end of the especially got some TV time.

1653
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 5: I was able to get a good video of them.

1654
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 3: They're New Yorkers, but like it, you don't. I don't

1655
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 3: know a single person who is not from New York,

1656
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: who has family from New York whos a Knicks fan.

1657
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 3: They're not a bandwagonable team.

1658
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 9: No.

1659
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 5: I did love the way.

1660
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,440
Speaker 4: Alan Houston shot the basketball though.

1661
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 3: Again, but they weren't your team. No adopted, No so

1662
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 3: it was so they got a chance with this man.

1663
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 2: It was fun. It was fun last year.

1664
01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 4: You don't think the fact that it's New York and

1665
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 4: they're just so many New Yorkers around the world that

1666
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 4: that makes them a better draw than.

1667
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 2: Better in Oklahoma City.

1668
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 3: But I don't know that they're a better They're not

1669
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 3: a better draw than the Cavaliers with Lebron. No, they're

1670
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 3: not a better draw than the Dallas Mavericks with Luca.

1671
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 3: They're not a better draw than Yannis with the Bucks.

1672
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 3: I think they're better draw than OKC with SGA, and

1673
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 3: a better draw because they're still so young. They're not

1674
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 3: known yet. I mean, he won his first MVP, but

1675
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 3: I don't know that he's not known the way Luca

1676
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 3: is known or the way Yiannis was.

1677
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 5: No.

1678
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 3: So, I mean, the the NBA is star driven, I don't.

1679
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 3: I just don't think that there's a big bandwagon Knicks.

1680
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people from New York on, but

1681
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 3: I just don't think that there's It's not like they're

1682
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: people that are cel Like they're Celtic fans everywhere. There

1683
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 3: aren't Nick fans everywhere or Lakers Celtics and they were

1684
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 3: I mean the Bulls were banned and the Warriors. There's

1685
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 3: Warriors fans everywhere now, I mean they they have that

1686
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 3: band wagon ability.

1687
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: All right.

1688
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 3: Well, open up the mail bag that is coming up

1689
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 3: next realistically The Browns Daily represented by Valley Bet, official

1690
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 3: sportsmanning partner, Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESPN.

1691
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 4: Cleveland.

1692
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bet, an official sports

1693
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight to fifty

1694
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 1: esp and Cleveland.

1695
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: No Young Browns Fan in the making.

1696
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 3: Join Junior Browns Backers Official kids club for kids ages

1697
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 3: four to twelve, presented by University Hospitals, Rainbows, Babies and

1698
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 3: Children's in association with Cardinal Credit Union. Joined by June

1699
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 3: eighth to score an invite to the first event of

1700
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 3: the season, Field Day. Visit Junior Brownsbackers dot com to

1701
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 3: join Today. Time to get those mail bag questions? Can

1702
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 3: you can send those in at Brown's Underscore Daily?

1703
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: Have we been doing that? I mean, Gibby's going to Italy.

1704
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 2: The mail night is open.

1705
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 4: I just send a sweet out. The mail big is open, right,

1706
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 4: I got one here from Darren bo. Did you establish

1707
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 4: the first Friday idea as an incentive to cut down

1708
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 4: on drinking. I'm trying to get sober, or at the

1709
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 4: very least way cut down was always curse. If that's

1710
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 4: what was behind the idea.

1711
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 3: No, in fact, the opposite, In fact, the opposite, Darren, No, No,

1712
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 3: it was no, it was kind of I never liked

1713
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 3: the idea of spelling Wednesday as a kid.

1714
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 2: I thought it was stupid. I didn't like the sound

1715
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: of hump Day.

1716
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 3: And I always thought, like, my favorite day of the

1717
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:37,799
Speaker 3: week was Friday.

1718
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 2: Maybe we should have two.

1719
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 3: And then I was looking for a reason to have

1720
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 3: a good time on a Friday night when I was

1721
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 3: in my twenties, and so I came up with First Friday.

1722
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 3: And so we would do it, and the two television

1723
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 3: stations in town, we would both it was down in Tallahassee.

1724
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 3: We'd both kind of do It'd be a First Friday

1725
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 3: miracle and you would act accordingly and have a cocktail,

1726
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 3: enjoy yourself, and then the next day you just gotta

1727
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 3: get the Thursday and you're done. This past First Friday

1728
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 3: is and that's like one of the big ones. It's

1729
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 3: not Thanksgiving First Friday, which is the ultimate First Friday,

1730
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 3: but for most of you with that are smart. You're

1731
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,440
Speaker 3: probably off tomorrow thinking you're gonna be laking.

1732
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 2: Or pooling or whatever.

1733
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 3: You're not gonna be doing anything because it sucks. But

1734
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 3: if it didn't suck, you'd be out in the sun

1735
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 3: having some fun. And that's one of them. It's this week,

1736
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 3: Labor Day, fourth of July into the Christmas holiday. Those

1737
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 3: are the big first fridays that are unbelievable and of

1738
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 3: course not better than Thanksgiving.

1739
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 2: No, Hello, g man.

1740
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 8: By, Hey, don't worry, it's Bobby time.

1741
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 3: Hey Bobby, all right, here we go.

1742
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 4: Favorite golf club you've ever owned.

1743
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

1744
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 4: Favorite golf club that I've ever owned? There are two

1745
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 4: that immediately come to mind, so let's after be the answer.

1746
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 4: My first Big Bertha that I ever bought, that I

1747
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 4: saved up all my money to buy, was obviously a

1748
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 4: very special club for me. And then for a while

1749
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 4: I had a copper ping I to sand Wedge that

1750
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 4: I was just deadly with deadly ping I. Two's might

1751
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 4: be the greatest clubs Grace Irons ever made.

1752
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 2: I did.

1753
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 3: I certainly don't know the the abilities that you have

1754
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 3: in the vicinity, nor would I be able to name

1755
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 3: one club that I hit better than the rest.

1756
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm a decent putter.

1757
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 3: But I did get a Mizuno blue sand wedge last summer.

1758
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I have all that.

1759
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 3: I I look at them and I just think, God,

1760
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: they're the most beautiful things.

1761
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 2: I've ever seen.

1762
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 4: I bought the putter just because I was like, I

1763
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 4: got to have it. That blue is so perfect, great,

1764
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 4: it's beautiful.

1765
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 5: I couldn't agree more.

1766
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 10: All right, more from Bobby. I'm excited about this one.

1767
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 10: What's the best prank you've ever pulled? We've done several

1768
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 10: of these.

1769
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 5: I don't think I can.

1770
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 4: The best prank I ever pulled happened down in Naples, Florida.

1771
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 4: But I don't think it's I don't think I can

1772
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 4: share the story on the air.

1773
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: If you don't think you can, my guess as you can.

1774
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 3: There's some good ones that I've done to the kids,

1775
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 3: like I have done the I remember videoing Bootsy when

1776
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 3: he was three or four and saying that Mom threw

1777
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: all the candy away and he lost it. And he

1778
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 3: goes and he goes, uh, he goes, go.

1779
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 5: What do you think we should do to Bob?

1780
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 3: He goes punish her or never throw our candy away

1781
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 3: again and Punisher and I have it on video like

1782
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 3: like three or four years old.

1783
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 4: Then't you also scared the people in your house?

1784
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: That was the all. Yeah, that was unbelievable. That was things.

1785
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 2: That was Halloween.

1786
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 3: They had gone trick or treating, and unbeknownst to them,

1787
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 3: I'd acquired a Jason from Halloween mask and they were

1788
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 3: unpacking their.

1789
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 5: Was it Michael Myers or Jason Oh no.

1790
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 3: No, Michael Myers. I'm sorry, yeah, Michael Myers, thank you, Yeah,

1791
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 3: Mike Myers. Michael Myers. So they were in the four

1792
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 3: year kind of unpacking their candy, and I went down

1793
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 3: in the basement and I put on the mask, and

1794
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 3: then I went out the walkout and went back around

1795
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 3: and I just kind of lifted in the window right

1796
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 3: outside the foyer, just my head and then I just

1797
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 3: went and they I'll never forget their faces. Beamsy Beams

1798
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 3: just went darted upstairs like a missile, Like a missile upstairs.

1799
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 3: NBC just screamed and dropped to the ground. Bootsy just

1800
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 3: started crying like crazy, ran into our room.

1801
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: My wife's like, what do you do? Like we were dying.

1802
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 4: She's like, it's dad, it's dad, it's dad.

1803
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 3: But it just killed them. It absolutely slayed him. So

1804
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 3: I messed with them on a pretty regular basis.

1805
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 10: It's good, good survival instincts from Beamsy. Just got out

1806
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 10: of a situation.

1807
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 2: See you later. I've the situation.

1808
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 4: Man, I'm gone like a missile. I got one real

1809
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 4: quick here from Justin Mancino. Is the Brown's ability to

1810
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 4: rebuild off a down season hindered by the fact that

1811
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 4: the e FC North, year in and year out, is

1812
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 4: stacked with some of the best talently conferences. Yes, short answer,

1813
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 4: yes nice. If we're in the AFC South, the NFC South, it's.

1814
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: You know, tough.

1815
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 3: We talk about it all the time, and it you

1816
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 3: know you this was the you think of the head

1817
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 3: space you're in at the acquisition of Deshaun and looking

1818
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 3: around the division and the conference and saying, look.

1819
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 5: That's why you did.

1820
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: What are we here to do.

1821
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 3: We're here to try to let's go win a super

1822
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 3: Bowl in order to beat Mahomes, Alan Lamar Burrow and

1823
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 3: Burrow was in our division and just got there to

1824
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 3: the super Bowl. We have got to have that level

1825
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 3: and that's how it happens.

1826
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 5: It's ridiculous.

1827
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 4: All four in the AFC and tour in our division

1828
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 4: two in our division.

1829
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to be here for Yeah, they're not

1830
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 2: going anywhere. We just did that the other day.

1831
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 3: We did like you know, those quarterback tiers and all

1832
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 3: of that, and like the four guys who are like

1833
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 3: unimpeachable are all here into in our division.

1834
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy. You'd much rather be in the NFC

1835
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 5: right now?

1836
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, NFC, No anything anywhere in the NFC.

1837
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 2: You take.

1838
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 8: What reality TV show would you agree to be on?

1839
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 3: I think you and I would do a great job

1840
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 3: at The Amazing Race. I don't know if that's still

1841
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 3: a show.

1842
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 2: I think to do it. I think we I think

1843
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 2: you and I would thrive at that. Let's do it?

1844
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: Do you think so? Yeah? Quick on our feet.

1845
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we do very well with that. Yeah,

1846
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 3: I'm in Does that show still go on? The Amazing Race?

1847
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 8: Give me one second. It looks like it.

1848
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think we do well with that. Isn't

1849
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 3: the idea like they PLoP you down in the middle

1850
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 3: of nowhere and then you got to follow.

1851
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 2: Clues to get somewhere else. Yeah, I feel like we'd

1852
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 2: crush that.

1853
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

1854
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 2: They're Easy.

1855
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,879
Speaker 8: There are thirty seven seasons.

1856
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 4: I grew up playing Where in the World as Carmen

1857
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 4: san Diego.

1858
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: Same easy, Boga great show. That's where she is. She

1859
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 2: was always in Bogatah.

1860
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 5: Sounds like a good place to be a place to be.

1861
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, Oh man, let's get back to where.

1862
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: We were here.

1863
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 4: Favorite course, Maddie mass Cleveland, favorite course in the Greater

1864
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,839
Speaker 4: Phoenix area. Matt and Scottsdale his his week. I really

1865
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 4: like True North. I think it's the monument course. I

1866
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 4: just thought it was so cool. We Copie did not play,

1867
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 4: but I hear tremendous things about it. But I really

1868
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 4: loved true of the ones we played. Liked it better

1869
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 4: than Greyhawk, for sure. I thought it was really really nice.

1870
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 4: True North.

1871
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: All right, I'm pulling up a oh gosh, Yeah, it

1872
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 2: looks beautiful.

1873
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 4: Yet the monuments. Yeah, like big Rocks, Red Rock.

1874
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1875
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: That's the thing, though, you and I talk about that

1876
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 3: all the time. With the PGA Championship, It's so cool

1877
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 3: to go play something that looks totally different than anything

1878
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 3: you've ever seen, totally like when you went and played Mierfield.

1879
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:40,959
Speaker 2: You're gonna play an exclusive course.

1880
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 3: Next week, like they're both stunning courses, but they're not

1881
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 3: that dissimilar from an elite course that you would be

1882
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 3: playing up here. It's true, right, Yeah, it's a it's

1883
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 3: a big American course. They're awesome, they're perfectly manicured, all

1884
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 3: that stuff. But then if you go to like this place,

1885
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 3: you go out in the desert and then all of

1886
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 3: a sudd you're playing something that just is totally foreign

1887
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 3: to the eye. Yeah, those are the ones that I

1888
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 3: get excited to see. Are those ones that just look totallytally.

1889
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,839
Speaker 4: They should have a turn portal. I'd love to see them. Yeah,

1890
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,839
Speaker 4: it'd be just fun, different stuff.

1891
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 5: It'd be very very good.

1892
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 8: If you could live anywhere for one year, where would

1893
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 8: you pick.

1894
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 2: Family or just me living my best life.

1895
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 4: Let's go both. If it differs, I.

1896
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 3: Tell you what, you'd have a hard time do it,

1897
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 3: like if you don't worry about anything. It feels like

1898
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 3: the people in Maui are really living a hell of

1899
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: a quality of life. To me, seems like they're thriving

1900
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 3: on about every level.

1901
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 5: And this is just one year I get to live there.

1902
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: I feel like one year.

1903
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of places in California that are

1904
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 3: pretty damn great for that.

1905
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 4: Live in like a sweet spot in San Diego would

1906
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 4: probably be pretty good. Yeah, I wouldn't mind living somewhere.

1907
01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:59,759
Speaker 5: I'm Tuscany, like in a Tuscan villa.

1908
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: For a year, be a fun spot for a year.

1909
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels pretty great.

1910
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 2: That'd be great. Yeah, you saw what happened on the

1911
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 2: White Lotus.

1912
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 4: Nashville.

1913
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 5: Nashville is your answer? That's like very doable.

1914
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: You do that tomorrow, live.

1915
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 5: In Nashville all the time.

1916
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 2: What's your job in Nashville tomorrow, man? Yeah, it's easy.

1917
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, a lot of a lot of great things down

1918
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 10: in Nashville. Have you ever regifted and if so, what

1919
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 10: was it?

1920
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1921
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 3: Definitely because that you get doubles on stuff, you know,

1922
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 3: especially like all this at Christmas time they do that,

1923
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 3: those those blind elephant things.

1924
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't stay.

1925
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 3: I can might as well be blind, you know it.

1926
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 3: Actually blind makes more sense, you know what you're getting.

1927
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 3: I can't stand those things. I can't stand them. I

1928
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 3: do we have to do like several of them every year,

1929
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 3: and every year like I don't even remember what I

1930
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 3: ever got, Like it never comes home.

1931
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: I don't even know what happens to it.

1932
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 3: So usually I just take one that I get in

1933
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 3: one and I give it to the next one. Yeah,

1934
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 3: it's always the same price range. Here, go ahead, have it.

1935
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 3: I don't know all.

1936
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 5: Right, I got one from Jared Logan.

1937
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 4: Bill He says, Charles Woodson was the best high school

1938
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 4: player I've ever seen, in honor of his joining the

1939
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 4: Browns ownership group. Who was the best high school player

1940
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 4: you ever saw? Oh, this is easy for me. For me,

1941
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 4: it's Jason Kidd.

1942
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be pretty was he? Do you have

1943
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: a football one?

1944
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think Braxton Banks was at the high

1945
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 4: school I went to and was really really good, Roy Williams.

1946
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 4: Was it Logan the safety.

1947
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 2: Safety from that went to Oklahoma? Yep, yep.

1948
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 4: Brax Banks went to Notre Dame like a peak of

1949
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 4: Note Dame, but then never materialized. Kind of past that man.

1950
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 10: Jaden Ballard wide receiver out of massin absolute beast, I mean,

1951
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 10: fifty to fifty ball, Just throw it up to him,

1952
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 10: he was gonna catch it.

1953
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 8: Committed to Ohio State.

1954
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:49,560
Speaker 4: Now he's at Wisconsin.

1955
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a shame that he I think if he could,

1956
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 3: I understand why he didn't.

1957
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 2: Where he had to go? Yeah, Ernie Simms.

1958
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 3: For me, Ernie Simms was a He started on a

1959
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 3: state champion as an eighth grader. He was a four

1960
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 3: time Florida State champion. He was the number one overall

1961
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 3: high school football recruit in the country coming out of

1962
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,759
Speaker 3: high school. He's USA Today National Player.

1963
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 2: Of the Year.

1964
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 3: He had three schools were his finalists of where he

1965
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 3: was going to go, Florida State, Auburn, and Georgia. All

1966
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 3: three said that they would unretire the number thirty four

1967
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 3: for him. That's Ron Sellers at Florida State, really good player.

1968
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 3: That's herschel Walker at Georgia, and that's Bo Jackson at Auburn.

1969
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 3: That's how good he was. Now he ends up being

1970
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 3: a first round pick. I think he's a seventh or

1971
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 3: eighth pick of the Lions. And he had some concussion

1972
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 3: stuff and just was never He was still a good player,

1973
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 3: had a good, probably ten year career, but was the

1974
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 3: best high school football player I saw him play.

1975
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 2: Tallahassee. Lincoln is in Tallahassee.

1976
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 3: Lincoln had seven kids who went Florida State Miami like

1977
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 3: Antonio Carimarti, Pat Watkins. All these guys who played in

1978
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 3: the league were all on the same team and he

1979
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 3: single handedly beat them. There's a video we had of

1980
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 3: him at the television station I worked at with him,

1981
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 3: just like throwing people off of him. He was the

1982
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 3: And he played linebacker at Florida State. Like I really

1983
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 3: think he could have been like a Bo Jackson type

1984
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,520
Speaker 3: running back. Like he was that good. He was untackleable.

1985
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 3: And all three of those schools offered to unretire the jersey,

1986
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:21,879
Speaker 3: which has never been done. Wow, he was stunning, stunning

1987
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 3: And where those people are? Where did he go Florida State?

1988
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 4: Was he better at Florida State than like Ron Simmons?

1989
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, he wasn't better than Ron Simmons.

1990
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 3: He wasn't probably better than he was a first round pick,

1991
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 3: like I want to say he was an eighth pick

1992
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 3: in the draft. He was a top ten pick of

1993
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 3: the Lions. But no, he wasn't like a multiple All

1994
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 3: America And he wasn't like Derrek Brooks Andre Wadsworth. He

1995
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 3: was a really good player, really good player. Again, he

1996
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 3: was a first round pick, but he never it never

1997
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 3: went to that level. I think he started probably started

1998
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 3: as a freshman. He's a three year starter. I mean,

1999
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 3: I'm guessing his accolades were pretty good, but he never

2000
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 3: like won the Bednarik or anything like that as as

2001
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 3: the Nation's stopped.

2002
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: But he was as a high school player was ridiculous.

2003
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 2: Wild Yeah, so much water. Cop You listened to Clevelan

2004
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 2: brown Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

2005
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Bett, an official sports

2006
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty esp

2007
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: and Cleveland.

2008
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 3: All Right, Uh, you know it's funny I went to

2009
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 3: Uh I mentioned Ernie Simms actually went to his first

2010
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 3: pro game two It was here. It was a preseason

2011
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 3: game against against the Browns. It was obviously long before

2012
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 3: I worked there. This would have been in probably six okay,

2013
01:28:56,360 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 3: something like that, oh seven maybe seven. Yeah, but he

2014
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 3: was the ninth pick in the draft. He was an

2015
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 3: All American at Florida State.

2016
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 2: Played three years. So that's the way that.

2017
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 3: That There's been a lot of most peoples Pro Bowls. No, No,

2018
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 3: I got dinged. I remember he had a concussion thing

2019
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 3: early and he just never never did that. I don't

2020
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 3: think he ever made a Pro Bowl or anything, but

2021
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 3: he was he remains the only linebacker to ever be

2022
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 3: the number one overall prospect in the country on the

2023
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 3: Rivals ratings. Even all the way through last year, he's

2024
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 3: the only linebacker to be number one overall. Most times

2025
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 3: he asked folks around here who the best high school

2026
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 3: the answer I get most often here for best high

2027
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 3: school football player they ever saw from the Cleveland area.

2028
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 3: It's usually Robert Smith is usually the answer that if

2029
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 3: you talk to people who've been around long enough, they say,

2030
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 3: Robert Smith's unlike anything you've ever seen. And that makes

2031
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 3: sense because he was a sprinter or two.

2032
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:56,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think.

2033
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 2: He was euclid. I think someone's going someone screaming, yeah,

2034
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 2: you idiot. It's that yes, he he's you could keV yes.

2035
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 2: So that's usually the one that I get is usually

2036
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 2: that one.

2037
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 3: All right, the next level is coming up next. We

2038
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 3: are back tomorrow. Thanks for listening, Bady, Cleveland Browns Daily,

2039
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 3: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily,

2040
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,839
Speaker 3: a production of the Cleveland Browns and eight fifty ESPN

2041
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:22,480
Speaker 3: Cleveland