1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: Like some eagles. 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 3: People don't understand, just like their parents don't be caring. 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 3: I'm speaking about their playing with that phony stuff you 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 3: sharing in your wraps, mensades, beans and all your riches, 7 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: thinking about you got it, but you get it, get 8 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: it because you ain't pivoting, no bitches, because you flys 9 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: and falling like leaves in the driveways, isn't it lovely? 10 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: Smoking good and slop your head on on highways Fridays 11 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: a type of Saturday. 12 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: Just makes it. 13 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: Oh when tonight when a nice cold or how to 14 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 3: know went to a nice and hot woman enough to 15 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: feed your soul growing? 16 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: Oh whoever else that was white h translated those lyrics. 17 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 4: Uh. 18 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 3: Anyway, guys, we are the Blackout Tips. Okay, I'm your 19 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 3: host Rod and join us always with my co host Karen, 20 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: and we are here to talk about all your news 21 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: and stuff and all the weird stuff that we've been 22 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: talking about lately. Anyway, Yes, you can find us on iTunes, stitcher. 23 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Uh Lee was five star reviews. 24 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: The Blackoutips dot Com will read them on the air 25 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: as long as they're nice. 26 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: The official weapon of. 27 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 3: The show is an unofficial sport and bulletball extreme and 28 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: we can get right into the show today. Actually, I 29 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: wanted to take do something a little out of order. 30 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: I normally read emails on Saturday when our feedback show, 31 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: but Marissa wrote in about black socialism and I do 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: give a fuck about it, So I wanted to read 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: it on the air because I was, uh, you know, 34 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: I was reading this right before you went on air. 35 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, maybe we can add this 36 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: into the show. Hey, Karen and Karen's husband. First thing, 37 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: First thing, First thing, First, I know I have nothing 38 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: but love and respect for y'all. Y'all also know that 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: we had different political views and beliefs and we know 40 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: that and our friends and that's okay. 41 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: That being said, I feel like I need to write 42 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: in about. 43 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: This, uh, to get some perspective that I think was 44 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: missed in a discussion. Disclaimer, I do not rep or 45 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: advocate for socialism. Still learning about it myself and have 46 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: it come to the point where I got where I 47 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: can fully adopt and promote it. Also disclaiming for Bernie 48 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: Sanders and Bernie stands all day. 49 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: No for real, just google me. Yes, I think. 50 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I said, Roger is I'm I'm with you 51 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: like me, me and you. We very milidic about that, 52 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: like yeah, you know. 53 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: So, she says. 54 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: However, this whole conversation about around black folks and socialism 55 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: has been heated for a few different reasons. 56 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 57 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: One, when you talk about the tone or how people 58 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: come at you online, a lot of folks you are 59 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: talking to get that same shit as universal for black folks. 60 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: So for every black socialist that is exasperated when you 61 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: talk to them, there's probably a long line of white 62 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: supremacist trolls that have been in their mentions too. It 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: makes having a convo not influenced by the presidents of 64 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: white folks difficult, not to mention the fact that some 65 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: folks are just digs on social media or in general. Yes, 66 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: I also noticed the men taking center stage in this 67 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 3: sort of grand standard. 68 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: It's unsurprising. Yeah. Our only thing I would I I. 69 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: Want to mention here is it's never me jumping in 70 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: their mentions, not once like like y'all like if y'all 71 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: watch my Twitter and how I navigate the shit I 72 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: don't like. I know people have like they get attacked, 73 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: like especially if you black, it doesn't even matter what 74 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: you're advocating. People will hop in your mentions like they 75 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: own you and like you better explain this to me. 76 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: Not once have I asked somebody explain something to me. 77 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: Not once have I got in to start name calling 78 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: these people. And maybe that's part of the issue, is 79 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: that the only people that are quote unquote black socialists 80 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: that keep running into me, not only, but the vast 81 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: majority are the kind of people that search Twitter for 82 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: tweets they disagree with so they can be addicted to 83 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: the person. 84 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: Right, these people do do that. 85 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: Right. 86 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: The problem for me with that, and this is probably 87 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: a problem a lot of black Democrat people or people 88 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: that vote Democrat are having, like anything that becomes the 89 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: interaction that I social that with that brand. It's not purposeful. 90 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: It's really just a human trait. Every human has this. 91 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: I didn't I had no problem with Bernie Sanders in 92 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: general last year. I just thought I was like, well, 93 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: he fucked up, he didn't know what to say about 94 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: race and shit, I made a joke about Bernie so black. 95 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 3: The vast majority of the interaction I've had with Bernie 96 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: Sanders supporters has been bad, you know, it hasn't been 97 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: me reaching into that mention of being like, no, you 98 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: can't say that I don't like him. I don't do 99 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: that shit, like it's just not my thing. If honestly, 100 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: if I see somebody saying something so egregious that I 101 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: disagree with and on social media, I either block him 102 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: or unfollow him me too, because I don't feel like 103 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: I have the right to tell you how to think. 104 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: And I really don't want to correct people for the 105 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 3: most part, like unless we got to have some kind 106 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: of relationship before, I feel like, let me come at 107 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: you and tell you my perspective of that. Cause for 108 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: the vast majority of people, they don't care and they 109 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: don't listen. So I want to clarify that because to me, 110 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: like I said on the show, it's a pr problem 111 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: quote unquote, I think more than it's a a problem 112 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: with the mentality or the not mentality ideology, okay, And 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: I think that's important to note because I think that 114 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: shapes everything, you know, because if you're approached, if you're 115 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: approached in the name of something and it's you know, 116 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: kindescending and mean whatever, that's just how it is. You know, 117 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: like you're not gonna be like, well, no, no, I'm 118 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: sure they. 119 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: Had a hard day. 120 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: If you're approached that way, you're gonna be like, I 121 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: don't like this person. This person doesn't like me, you know. 122 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 3: And I think also a lot of these conversations in 123 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: the base have been happening online and they've been going 124 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 3: back and forth with people for so long. I mean, 125 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: and this happened to me with Bernie. Shit, I just 126 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: skipped to the I'm like, so in the end, you're 127 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: gonna say, he Marshall Martin with the King, So can 128 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: we just skip to that because I don't want to 129 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: like go with you, right, like, I don't. I don't 130 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: have time, you don't have time. Let's just move on 131 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 3: to where you block me and all this shit. And 132 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: I felt that from people too, where it's almost like 133 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 3: they wanted me to block them, and they it was 134 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: kind of surprising to them when I wasn't blocking the moment. 135 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: I was just being like, well, look, man, this is 136 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 3: not you know, like, this is not the course of 137 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: conversation I want to have, and like like that. One 138 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: of the nicest people Marissa talked to me too on 139 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: social media yesterday, but one of the nicest people the 140 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 3: conversation started with her being like, well, when you wake. 141 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: Up, we'll be here. 142 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: Now, I'm not, uh, you know, like I try to 143 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: temper my ego with this kind of shit. But you know, 144 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: a lot of people would have took it, took that 145 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: as an insult, like oh so honestly, oh, you know, 146 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: like god all in their feelings and shit. But I 147 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: was looking at it, like, obviously you think this is. 148 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: A path forward for black people. 149 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: I'm I'm not going to just be like, wow, really, 150 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: I'm sleep cinis blah blah blah. Like I just hit 151 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: her back, and I was like, okay, you know, like 152 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: if maybe that's what it is, maybe I am sleep 153 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: to this. 154 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: You know. 155 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: It's like I'm I'm okay, and many I don't know 156 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: everything right, you know. I was thinking about today, how 157 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: I'm the first of my like my my youngest aunt 158 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: is the first person in my family that graduate from college. 159 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: I'm the second of all my cousins, of my brother, 160 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: all these people in my family. Like, you know, I 161 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: had pressure on me in a way that I put 162 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: on myself that was like I don't want to let 163 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: everybody down. I need to graduate. I have to be 164 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: an example for everybody else in my family. 165 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: Some of these. 166 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: Concepts are concepts that are new to me, just like 167 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: everything else is new to me. I don't want to 168 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: be the kind of person that rejects a concept because 169 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: I haven't heard it before, you know, because I haven't 170 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: studied it before. Some people have had the benefit of 171 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: knowing and learning this stuff, whether it's through there, Like 172 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: I live in an area where we have very active 173 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: different type of black like nationalists and pan Africanists and 174 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: all this stuff I grew up in. You grow up 175 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: in a family like that, you have the time to 176 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: read and study stuff out like that. You go to 177 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: a college where you can like take these courses things 178 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: of that nature, you know, like that might be your discipline, 179 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: it could be a lot of You're in political organizations. 180 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of ways that people learn. And 181 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: I think, uh, and I did. I'm a vig I'm 182 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: guilty of this too. Sometimes I take for granted, like, oh, 183 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: we all kind of had the same background. We're black, 184 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: you know, Like I always assume when I'm talking to 185 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: somebody that's kind of like me, which is unfair, or 186 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: assume obviously just because you're black, that doesn't mean shit. 187 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: But I'm like, oh, so you kind of one. 188 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: Foot in the hood, one foot out, you know, always 189 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: worried that if you fuck up, you going back. Always 190 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: work Like your family, you watch your family go out 191 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: from poverty to you know, home ownership and stuff. Those 192 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: are huge milestones I've seen happen in my lifetime for 193 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: most of my family. So to me, it was always like, well, 194 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: that's what everybody's on but I. But then I remember 195 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: when I got to college. That's the first time I 196 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 3: met a black person that wasn't from America in college, 197 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: you know, first time I met somebody who was like 198 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: first generation immigrant that was black. College, first time I 199 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: met black people with money. I was an intern at 200 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: sixteen and in rows and I was going to this 201 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: every weekend, going up there with these kids that for 202 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: they were expected to go to college. Like it wasn't 203 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: like yeah, like my parents said I should go to college. 204 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: But in my neighborhood, my peers, it was like what you. 205 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: Gonna do that for? 206 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: Right? A lot of them didn't go to school. 207 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: Like it was a lot of like, look, man, you 208 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: either go to the army, go to trade school, go 209 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: to community college, or you get a job. 210 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: And and that's if you don't fall into the traps 211 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: of drugs, aids, the streets, shit like that. 212 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: So my background, I just like assume like everybody's coming 213 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: from that. To me, socialism was a chapter I read 214 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: in a tenth grade book about like about world economies 215 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: and politics, like that's what it is to me. 216 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: I'm not familiar, you know, I would, I would. 217 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: I would hazard to guess the vast majority of black 218 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: people in this country are not familiar. I think it's 219 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: by design, of course that we're not familiar, but we 220 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: if we're having a conversation, we're starting there. It's only 221 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: once I got to social media that I saw people 222 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: that were like having this conversation as if it's a given, 223 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: like y'all should already know this shit. Y'all are stupid 224 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: for not knowing. And also I'm gonna call you these 225 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: names you know, right. 226 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: And and that's a problem because I will continue to 227 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: say this tone mean things and words matter, you know. 228 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 4: And sometimes people interact with people on social media with 229 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 4: if I laid my eyes on you and we will 230 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: face to face, you wouldn't come at me with them saying. 231 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: Right, well, well that too, you know, if you know 232 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: people they're a little gentler with you, you know. But 233 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: also I just think it we're so disposable that it's 234 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: let me just call you a neoliberal, let me just 235 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: call you a capitalist, let me just call you a 236 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: heal bid. Let's just like, let me just call you 237 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 3: a name, and then that's it, and then I can 238 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: just kind of dismiss you, cause I like, to me, 239 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: I don't know black people that are I'm so attached 240 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: to this idea of well, look, corporations are the best, 241 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: that's what we want. 242 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: They corporations always did good by us. Like black people are. 243 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: Not loyal in that way, like like when people I 244 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: hate the way people talk about us or they talk 245 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: about like how we vote. We're not loyal to Democrats 246 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: as much as people feel like there are two choices 247 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: and this is the best of the worst of the 248 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: two choices, right, And we constantly get bashed for that shit. 249 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: So when you see other black people bashing you for 250 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: that shit, it does resonate on a level where it's like, well, 251 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: fuck you and fuck whatever you're on. 252 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: That's a human emotion. 253 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to not get bobed down in that shit, 254 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: you know, Like to be honest, if I had that 255 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: kind of ego and heard about it, I wouldn't be 256 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: talking about on the show. I'd just be like, well, 257 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: fuck them niggas, they're crazy, which I see a lot 258 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 3: of people saying and just moving on to being like 259 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: they never gonna have the numbers anyway. So why am 260 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: I worried about it? But I am exploring this because 261 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. You know, all right, I know that's 262 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: a huge tangent. 263 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: But and to me, I know you want to get 264 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: on further into it. 265 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 4: But to me, and maybe my heart's too soft, but 266 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, I am a person and you are 267 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 4: a person. Like I'm real, I'm real, keen in tone 268 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: and words matter, like when I read your shit, I 269 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: take the time to read your shit, and when you 270 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 4: on ten, I'm like, hey, like I said, if we 271 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: was in the same room, you're looking at me in 272 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: my face, would you tell me this? Would you say 273 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: these same phrases to me? Just like you type this 274 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 4: in human being? I'm a human being, too. 275 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: Right, And like I said, I try to be. 276 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: Respectful of the fact that people are that way, you 277 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, I try to be respectful 278 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: the fact that cause. See, like I said, the people 279 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: I'm interacting with, from my experience, are probably people that 280 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 3: are sitting online arguing about this a lot. And I 281 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: don't know, I said, it's a pr thing. I don't 282 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: know that they're representative of these movements. I don't know 283 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: that they're in these streets. I don't know what they're 284 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: in these organizations. They could just literally be arguing theory online, 285 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: yelling at people. I mean, during the Bernie shit, so 286 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: many of them people that was Bernie does Bernie that 287 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: that was coming at me sideways. 288 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: It's not like they was actually doing shit for Bernie. 289 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: You know. 290 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: It was like, if anything you're hurt, you're hurting his 291 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: cause by going out and targeting people and harassing them. 292 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: And that's essentially what it amounts to harassment when someone's 293 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: not interacting with you and you're coming at them that way. 294 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: So I think that was a huge part of, you know, 295 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: the response, at least at least on my part. I 296 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: can't speak for everybody else, but you know, and if 297 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: you saw, if y'all see my feed or whatever, I 298 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: wasn't just being like, you know, fuck these niggas, you crazy, 299 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: like it was just kind of like, Okay, cool, we're 300 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: not gonna agree, but you know that you got jokes 301 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: or whatever. You're not seriously engaging this, I'm not gonna 302 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: talk to you. But I talked to several people who 303 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: were seriously engaging me, Like I find like I didn't 304 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: have a problem talking to them about it, because I 305 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: do want to know, you know, if I can learn, 306 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: then I'm gonna learn. Like I don't understand why that 307 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: would be, you know, so why I would be adverse 308 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: to learning, you know? 309 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: Correct? 310 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: All right? 311 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: So she goes on too, I have to push back 312 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: on the idea that folks are just ignorant of socialism 313 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: and that black socialists are just. 314 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: Expecting people to be knowledge for a couple of reasons. 315 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: Part of the frustration comes because there are people who 316 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: don't know, and then there are people who should know 317 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: but better, but willfully misrepresent socialism for their brand. That's 318 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: why I got pissed yesterday. And I'm not even a socialist. 319 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: It wasn't someone from the streets with no formal education 320 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: who was misrepresenting it, but a well known investigative journalist 321 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: with multiple degrees who speaks multiple languages and studies Russians 322 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: politics who failed to engage the most obvious Black proponents 323 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: of socialism, the Black Panthers. Part of the reason people 324 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: look to him at others who's sometimes pulled this clear 325 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: misrepresentation is because they are educated and claim to know better, 326 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: and because these people have large platforms, what they say 327 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: becomes truth even when there isn't evidence to back it up. 328 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: Like it's thread, It's also this thing amongst folks who 329 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: are building brands, have the bullshit hot take because it 330 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: will get retweets off of people's ignorance. So part of 331 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: what people are responding to isn't just ignorance they don't 332 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: talk to hood niggas about socialism this way, but the 333 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: willful misinformation about people with platforms because it aids their brands. 334 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, if that's happening, that's fucked up. 335 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: If they do understand that they're misrepresenting socialism and specifically 336 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: black socialism, then yeah, they shouldn't be doing that. Well, 337 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: I read that same thread. I literally can't remember the dude. 338 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: It's Terelle something. 339 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: So somebody was tweeting, well, he had this. 340 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: Thing where he was basically being like, look, man, as 341 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: long as socialist in this country is seen as Bernie Sanders, 342 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 3: y'all have a problem, and regardless like like selling it 343 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 3: to black people. And I don't feel that that's a misrepresentation. Now, look, 344 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: he's at a platform where he could go find some 345 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 3: black people that are socialists, interview them, try to help 346 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: them get a leg up, and maybe push their brand 347 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: so that you know, someone can kind of take this over. 348 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: Because I do find that some of the stuff he 349 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: said had merit. 350 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: White people are the problem. 351 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: Like, regardless of any political platform, if it involves white 352 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 3: people making decisions at the head. 353 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: It will always be fucked up for everybody else. 354 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: You know. 355 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: So even when we have like. 356 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: Black people who are socialists, if you did an interview 357 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: with most people in America and you said who do 358 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: you think who would you say is the biggest socialists 359 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: in America? Or who do you most associated with socialism? 360 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 3: I feel like in the high ninety percent those those 361 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: who do know an answer because some you know, a 362 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: lot of a lot of people ain't gonna know the 363 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: answer in America, but most of them are gonna say 364 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders. And I think that's bad for everybody, you know. 365 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 3: I think, uh, you know, when you. 366 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 2: See people attacking black people. 367 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 3: In the name of Bernie Sanders and calling that socialism. 368 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: None of these black. 369 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: Socialists that come in my mentions, they not They never 370 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: pop up. Then they never say, hey, you're misrepresenting this shit. 371 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: This is not what we do, this is not who 372 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: we are. And Bernie Sanders is a fucking problem, And 373 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: like you we I never get I've never gotten that. 374 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: It's always just been white people canna say whatever the 375 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 3: fuck they want, that's their shit. The same thing happened 376 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: with the Green Party. Motherfuckers can say whatever they want. 377 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: White people can come at you sideways, super racist shit. 378 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: And then and then these black people that come in 379 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: later are like we in the Green Party too, And 380 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: it's like, where were y'all? Where is the pro blackness 381 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: over there? Like where is the you know, like it 382 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 3: sounds it feels like, and I don't know because I'm 383 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: not over there. It feels like y'all at the back 384 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 3: of the bus too, but mad at us for being 385 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: at the back of the bus of a democratic party 386 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: or mad like it's kind of like all they all 387 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 3: feel like bad options at the moment. So it's like, 388 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: I want to see what we can do to. 389 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 2: Get basically get around white people, like, how do we 390 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: get around them? 391 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: How do we usurp the like the same way Bernie 392 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: tried to steal the Democratic Party from Hillary Clinton. I 393 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: would like to see I would like to help find 394 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: a way for black people to do something like that, 395 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: because because more and more importantly black people deserve it more. Anyway, 396 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: But anyway, but I but I understand, Yeah, if a 397 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: person is misrepresenting shit like that on purpose for the 398 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: clicks and the likes and retweets, that is fucked up, 399 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: and that is a problem. I don't know what else 400 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 3: to say. But you know, only that guy knows if 401 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: he's purposely trying to you know, and obviously the people 402 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 3: that that interact with him might know, But only he 403 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: knows if he's purposely ignoring that there are black people 404 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 3: out there who are on this ship and he could 405 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: be engaging with them but chooses not to, you know, 406 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 3: and that is foul if that's the case. 407 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: You know. 408 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: But also same thing that that happened in point one, 409 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: how the people come. 410 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: At each other. 411 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: Like I said, this is why I'm taking this conversation 412 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 3: off of social media. I don't ever want to talk 413 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 3: to people about this shit on social media again, because 414 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: it's how people come in to each other and I 415 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: and it's been happening for a couple of years now. 416 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: At least at least that I've noticed. 417 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: I ain't seen not nobody, but nobody has come around 418 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: and been like, you know what, I was looking at 419 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: that wrong? 420 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: My bad, y'all. 421 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 3: You know what, I called you some name, but I 422 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 3: don't even mean that. I don't even know why I 423 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 3: said that. Everybody's just like you fucking kook you like 424 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 3: you left you so radical but you ain't shit. Yeah, 425 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: well you such a neoliberal you might as well be 426 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 3: a concert like it's that kind of shit. 427 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, ever, better write each other off and keep 428 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: you trucking. 429 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, I know, I'm smart enough to know when 430 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: it's not a conversation being had. So and yeah, if 431 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: he was not engaging, uh, that that's foul. You know, 432 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: it is a thread. So maybe he was putting together 433 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 3: his thoughts. I don't know, uh, but yeah, you can 434 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 3: always because I think that he ended it with like 435 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 3: and I'm still interested in learning about it talking to people. 436 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: I just gotta hope that he a man of his word, 437 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 3: you know, gotta hope you're a man of his word. 438 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: I hope you're not just fronting for the for the Internet. 439 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 3: I hope you do go learn about it. I hope 440 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: you do talk to some people about it. I don't know, 441 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: Like I can't emphasize much anymore. I don't have any answers. 442 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: Everything I think of has been tried and destroyed. 443 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: Everything. 444 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: Black people have been trying to innovate ways out of 445 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: this shit for so long, and we've been smacked down 446 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 3: and abuse for so long that I'm like, I don't know. 447 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: So I'm just on a quest for knowledge at this moment. 448 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll find something. Maybe I'll at least know something 449 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: more than I did than I knew before. You know, 450 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's fuck w take your platform. 451 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: And you know, and do that. 452 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't want to do that, which is 453 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: why we're having this kind of conversation rather than me 454 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: just coming out here and being like, fuck black socialism. 455 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: Them niggas assholes. They was mean to me. Bernie Sanders 456 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: is the only socialist. 457 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: Like, I don't want to say that because if I'm 458 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: learning more, I'm gonna be transparent with the audience. There's 459 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: also a reason you don't know about the black legacy 460 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: socialism that is different from feminists, different than feminism. The 461 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 3: US government has specifically targeted black socialist revolutionary groups and figures. 462 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 2: There was no move by mean of feminism. 463 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 3: There was no infiltration of the Black Panther Party and 464 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: assassinations in feminism to promote you, so uh has always 465 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 3: been a dangerous thing in this country, and to do 466 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 3: so while black has been a death sentence. 467 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: Not only is it dangerous, but there's. 468 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 3: Been a concerted effort to a race socialism from our history, 469 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: which is again why this information angers me. How come 470 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: on folks claim to love the Black Panther Party but 471 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: don't know that socialism and teaching about is what health 472 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: and don't know that socialism and teaching about it was 473 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 3: part of their core work and why they were targeted. 474 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: Why do people rep Angela Davis but don't talk about 475 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: her socialism? Why do we quote Malcolm X but not 476 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: talk about his legacy of black socialism? And why do 477 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: we chant Asada but don't talk about her socialism. The 478 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: reason why the propaganda campaign elicits so many feelings of 479 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: eracirest because the majority of our central black revolutionary figures 480 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: have had ties or explicitly supported socialism, and yet that 481 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: legacy has been deliberately destroyed. It takes work to ignore 482 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: socialism in all their work if you know anything about 483 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: them beyond just their name. 484 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: I like to say something. 485 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 4: I think the reason why most people do that is 486 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: because of what they've been taught in school. 487 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: Like you and other people have. 488 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: Like I said, if you have families that actually sit 489 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: you down and gonna look, you're gonna learn from shit today. 490 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: If you have teachers and anybody outside of the structure 491 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 4: of the school system that you went to teach you 492 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: these things, you will know. But the average person goes 493 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 4: through the twelfth grade and that's it. Even if they're 494 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 4: going to school, that's it. 495 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: So most people just. 496 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 4: Know by name, and they're not gonna take the time 497 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 4: to read their books, even though I know these people 498 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 4: have lost the. 499 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: Books well even the yeah, like even like I think 500 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: it is designed by design obviously. I mean, if they're 501 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: killing people, they're also not gonna be teaching you this 502 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: shit in school beyond like Karl Marx like that kind 503 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: of shit, and then you'll learn like one blurb and 504 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 3: one fact about that dude, and that'll be it for 505 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: most of the people in America when it comes to socialism. 506 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: Like I said, right now, I think even if you. 507 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 3: Ask most people, you could say, name one person associated 508 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: with socialism period, alive or dead, you would still. 509 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 2: Get Bernie Sanders. I guarantee it. 510 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: If you did a Poe, you wouldn't even get marks, 511 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: you wouldn't even get like people who have historically been 512 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: associated with it. You would just get this nigga. Right now, 513 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: if there is an albatross in the room, then it's him. 514 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: It's the biggest That is the biggest fucking hurdle because 515 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 3: the vast majority of people that I know that are black, 516 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: that don't you know that are on some like uh 517 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: you know, uh fuck Bernie sandershit think also that socialism. 518 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's right, right, but like, obviously that's 519 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 3: not true and it is misinformation that she said. I 520 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: still think that's where we're starting at. So we can 521 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: either be mad that niggas don't know, or we can 522 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: try to reach out, like I'm gonna use this place 523 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: for them to try to at least reach out and 524 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: have people on so I can be like, Okay, so 525 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: this is what it is, rather than us talking about 526 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 3: it in theory or you know, because even if people don't. 527 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 2: Like it, at least know what the real thing is. 528 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 3: At least know who the black people over there are, 529 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: you know, Like that shit matters to me, you know, 530 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 3: and I think it's there. I think it's important rather 531 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: than to just be like, uh, why don't y'all niggas know? 532 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: That's it? 533 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: Right? 534 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 4: And to me, that becomes part of the problem because 535 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 4: everybody assumes that everybody understands and have the same background 536 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 4: and the same knowledge that they have in blackness. 537 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: And that's not. 538 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 4: So so if you were raised like I said, if 539 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: you were raised up in the family they went above 540 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: and beyond Martin Luther King. 541 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: A lot of. 542 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 4: Times you were bound to find these people and know 543 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 4: they're more by name. 544 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: But most don't, even most adults don't. 545 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: So you know, when when you say you quote these 546 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 4: names and you don't know, they don't know. Like and 547 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 4: I agree with you, the system is designed for them 548 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 4: not to know. And the average person is not prompt 549 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 4: and I actually isn't curious enough to go find out 550 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 4: for various different reasons. A lot of times, all aside 551 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 4: the way the system is design. Once you become an adult, 552 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 4: you so be just trying to work and fucking pay 553 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: bills that you don't have time to expand your knowledge 554 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: and go find out about these people because you live 555 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 4: in paycheck to paycheck, you're just trying to make it. 556 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would try, Like I said, I want to 557 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 3: try to brighten my horizons and to just rather not know, 558 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: you know, because even right now, I feel like this 559 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 3: discussion is kind of sloppy, but we're being transparent and 560 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 3: people are hearing our thoughts as we as they come out, 561 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 3: like right, and like I said, I feel like a 562 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: lot of people are here, you know, like rather than 563 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: to just shit on people for being like like I 564 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 3: said to me, it's interesting sometimes a way even black 565 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 3: black people on the far left talk about black other 566 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 3: black people that vote them that there's a lot of uh, 567 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 3: the same as givings that Republicans have about black people. 568 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 3: Y'all sheep, y'all on the plantation y'all. Uh you know, uh, 569 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: y'all y'all are stupid. Uh, there's no difference. And then 570 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: they go, well, why don't these black people come over here? 571 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: And I'm like, Okay, I don't like I don't think 572 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: you understand the magnitude of that problem, like you like 573 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: you can't just keep getting mad at me for saying 574 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: the truth, which is if most people's association with this 575 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 3: ship is y'all talking down to us, it doesn't matter 576 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: if you think you're for the people or not. If 577 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 3: that's how you talk to if it's like a Mobeta blues. 578 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: That conversation Wesley and uh Denzel had with Denzel was like, 579 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: the problem with you, motherfuckers, is you play you want 580 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: you grandios motherfuckers that you won't. 581 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: Play the ship the people like. If you play the 582 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: shit the people like, the people will come. 583 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: And I think, uh, the same way I treat this 584 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: podcast the same way I treat everything. If you don't, 585 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: if you don't give people something where they can like 586 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: feel good about it, hold on to it and want 587 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: to learn, and they won't. 588 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: They won't. 589 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: It's just it doesn't matter what color they are, any 590 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: of that shit. They will be like this, nigga all 591 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: I'm getting to scoring and I'm done, you know. 592 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: Right, because you have to have people open and willing 593 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: and when you when people feel attacked, guess what, They're 594 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: not gonna be willing to listen to anything you say 595 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: past them being attacked, and that's real. 596 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: I mean, they will sound like white people, like you 597 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: know how white people sound when we were like, uh this, 598 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: these white people did this, that, and the other white people. 599 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: The first thing is like, but but this. 600 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 3: That and the other, and you're like, oh, you're just 601 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: putting yourself in the middle of this. 602 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: Like it. 603 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 3: It's like you can't be engaged on a level of 604 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: just fucking uh. I can't just stop it at ten 605 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: and hop on you like you're you're cause you're you're. 606 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: I can do it and feel better, but I can't 607 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: do it and say I fruitfully change somebody. 608 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: I know I didn't. 609 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: I know, I just got that out of my system. 610 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: And then you walked away and went fuck that nigga, 611 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: and then that was the end of our commonnversation. And 612 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: I and sometimes, like I said, not all communication is 613 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: for education. I think there's a lot of people that 614 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: are on social media to just be like fuck people, 615 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: laugh at people. 616 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: You niggas are stupid, y'all are all sheep, and they 617 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: get off on that shit. 618 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: Yes they do know and that like I said, those 619 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 3: I try to ignore those people, but I know that 620 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: I'm very different than most people when it comes to that. 621 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: Like I know, and I'm aware enough to know that 622 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: the vast majority of motherfucker is if they feel insulted, 623 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: they are not being like, well, let me stick around. 624 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: Maybe this person will say something interesting. Most people just 625 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: in the conversation that will fuck you the intend right 626 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: the end, like. 627 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 4: Because in my mind, what the fuck is there to 628 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: talk about? You obviously don't want you obviously aren't open 629 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 4: when you come as certain people, certain ways you can't 630 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 4: put like this. If you start off something confrontational, confrontation 631 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 4: will come back at you, and then you can't be 632 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 4: shocked that conversation comes back at you, right, you know. 633 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: And I think they're like, I'm gonna And I think 634 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 4: some people use this as a tactic to kind of 635 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 4: open up dialogue. But that's not a proper way to 636 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 4: open up dialogue in my opinion. I think some people 637 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 4: really think that that's the way to open up dialogue. 638 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: And you're like, you do know that this does not 639 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: work for most people. I know it don't work for me. 640 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 4: Because, like I said, I took them Bride Briggs tests. 641 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: No that stuff. 642 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 4: I know I work better for positive reinforcement, so you 643 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 4: come at me the wrong way, there's nothing else for 644 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 4: us to talk about. 645 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, also, I mean it's like. 646 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 3: It's that thing where they can't see my shoes and 647 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: I can't see like I'm not looking at their mentions 648 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: before I engage them advice versa correct, so you know, 649 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 3: if they're you know, and also she brought up earlier, 650 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: some people are just being assholes. Yes, you know a 651 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 3: lot of times when I am quote unquote engaged and 652 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: it's just somebody harassing me, it is a dude. You know, 653 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: a lot of times it is a dude just being 654 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: like I'm so socialist and you niggas are stupid and 655 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: ha ha, And I'm like, what conversation was I supposed 656 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: to have with you? Because you can't pretend that I'm 657 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: the problem, and it'd be like, uh, you know, why won't. 658 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: You listen to me? 659 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: You fucking coon sell out? 660 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: Like uh well, I mean that's why, you know, like 661 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: even with that with that Terrell star dude, like I'm 662 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: sure if I looked at his mentions, I could also 663 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: be like and that's probably why he's not even engaging 664 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: with nobody, right, you know what I mean? If we're 665 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: gonna be extending that empathy that everybody involved, like a 666 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: lot of people are. 667 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: You know, it's just a bad format to have the conversation. 668 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: That's what That's the conclusion I came to because I 669 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: refuse to fucking hate these people because we think something 670 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 3: different and it's not rooted in. 671 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: Stripping people of their humanity. 672 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: Like the organizations I looked up so far just in 673 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 3: the last twenty four hours pro LGBTQ organizations, some headed 674 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: by LGBTQ people activists, pro you know, Black Lives Matter 675 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: people like like I refuse to them based on some 676 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 3: shiit some nigga said to me on social media that 677 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: might have zero affiliation with them, but just gets off 678 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 3: on that. So that's where I'm coming from it with 679 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: coming with it from And. 680 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 4: Also my thing is that I want to learn and 681 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 4: I want to get educated and I want to be 682 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 4: open minded and you know that, like Righter said, that's 683 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 4: that's why that's why we're here. And it's kind of 684 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 4: trip is very murky water when you're trying to shift 685 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 4: through a lot of this uh stuff, because you're doing 686 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: with people at all different abilities as far as educational level, 687 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 4: as far as communicational level, as far as emotional level, 688 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 4: you're dealing with people do on all types and and 689 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 4: people at different points in their lives. 690 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, most people just won't give a fuck if we're 691 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 3: being honest correct, Like most people are not about to 692 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: do Look, let me do some soul searching and find 693 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 3: I'm a wade past the people that piss me off 694 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: and find the true people that, Like, most people are 695 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: not gonna do this, which is why want to do it, 696 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 3: because maybe it'll be something good for the audience, and 697 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: maybe it'll be something good for all of us, you know, 698 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 3: rather than to just be like, I'm gonna write through 699 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 3: these niggas off. But absolutely though all those people that 700 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: she named the like I read the autobiography of Malcolm X, 701 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: but I haven't read everything about Malcolm X, and even 702 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 3: in the autobiography of Malcolm X, which is another another 703 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 3: point of why I keep coming back to educational ship. 704 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: There's part of political theory that is so uh like 705 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: you have to be in it because they're not explained. 706 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 3: Like when I'm reading the autobiography of Malcolm X and 707 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: they're talking about like a food program, they're not putting 708 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: it in the way of defining it like and this 709 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: is also socialism. Uh, this is this is this is 710 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: you know this program where they were bothering goods in 711 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: this community or where they where people would all volunteer 712 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: some time and their EXPERTI us to help other people. 713 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 3: They don't put it in the book and say and 714 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 3: that was socialism, y'all, Like like most of the time, 715 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 3: it's just oh, that was a cool program. When I 716 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 3: when I saw the documentary on the Black Panthers last year, 717 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: they don't say this is socialism in the documentary. 718 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: They just go they had food programs for the kids. 719 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: They like. 720 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 3: I think, like I said, it's it's more of a 721 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 3: p R thing, it seems, because if those things come 722 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 3: from uh socialism, if then then those are good things 723 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: that I would I would guess most black people would 724 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 3: would support. I don't like I would hope most black 725 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: people would look at that and be like, that's fucking 726 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 3: awesome more of that. 727 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: But they don't say this is socialism. So people go oh, okay, 728 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: and they just move on right. 729 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: And if it's a bad word and they killing niggas 730 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: for it, then maybe that's why you don't tell them 731 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 3: this is socialism. You just got we got a food 732 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 3: program and then people figure it out on their own. 733 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 3: The problem is everybody don't live where some black panthers at. 734 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 3: Everybody don't live where, uh, you know, a church with 735 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: whatever truck and something and like that. Everybody doesn't live 736 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 3: where you know, they have access or even the inclination 737 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 3: or the time to participate in some of the shit. 738 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 3: So you know, you that may be part of the 739 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 3: block of it. I don't know, but you know. 740 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: And also. 741 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: This is a little bit more cynical, but a lot 742 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 3: of these motherfuckers that promote black panthers aside of the 743 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 3: court and shit, they not really about that life anyway. 744 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: No, they're not. 745 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: Like it's a lot of people on T shirts that 746 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 3: people like, it's a cool brand, but you don't fuck 747 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 3: with that for real, you know what I mean? 748 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 2: Like how many rich ass people put like cast on 749 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: a T shirt? You know what I mean? Like do 750 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 2: you really like, are you really about that for real? 751 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 3: Or is it just kind of like a nod towards 752 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 3: a complicated person that you don't necessarily understand the ends 753 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: and outs of everything going on with them. But it's 754 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 3: a statement that you would like to make. That's real too, 755 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of 756 00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 3: people I love. 757 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 2: What do you what? Like, do you really love Malcolm X? 758 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 3: Do you also embrace some of the problematic shit stuff 759 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: towards women and stuff like that, Like you know, it's 760 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 3: like it's more to it than just, uh. 761 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: What a cool thing to say online. 762 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 3: But I feel like sometimes that's what happens and people 763 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: aren't really about that life anyway at any rate. In 764 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 3: any case, I learned about socialism for hood nigga who 765 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 3: are organizing with hood niggas, not in the classroom. I 766 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 3: learn more about most about socialism from folks who never 767 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: stepped in a college classroom and from some folks who 768 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 3: are doing the most to actually feed, house and provide 769 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 3: support for black folks in our community outside of the 770 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 3: NGO world. 771 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can definitely understand that. Man if I think 772 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 2: in the NGO like. 773 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 3: A corporation, you're saying, let me google this shit and 774 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 3: then like national you know, don't even let me tank 775 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 3: this non government or organization, okay, thank you, so uh 776 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 3: so outside of the governments, programs and ship uh. 777 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 2: I say all this to say that our ancestors. 778 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 3: By the way, like that isn't is an example just 779 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: right there, like of shit where you read that, And 780 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 3: if I read that into Malcolm x biography, I probably 781 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 3: wouldn't even be like, n g, O, let me look 782 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 3: that up. 783 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: Oh, because I'm like, I don't know what that means. 784 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 2: Right, But I'm saying me, and I'm saying a lot 785 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: of people. 786 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 3: You know, that's people I've seen people like throw fucking 787 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 3: like complicated quotes translated from Russian to motherfucker's on social media, 788 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 3: and I'm like, there's no fucking way that that person 789 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 3: would only understand that if they knew the whole context 790 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 3: of that. Like just because it has a picture of 791 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 3: a black and white drawn to call marks next to it, 792 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 3: don't mean that that person is like, well damn, I 793 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 3: guess you told me the same way that when white 794 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 3: people throw Malcolm Martin Luther King quotes and I'm like, okay. 795 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 2: Like I like it. 796 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 3: It's probably not as simple as your as you throwing 797 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 3: it out to be correct, you know what I mean? Like, 798 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 3: I probably would need to hold context for that, and 799 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 3: some of this shit is complicated, and you do need 800 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 3: that background, you know. 801 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 4: It, because the more you know, the more you can 802 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 4: expand your knowledge on it. But if you don't know, 803 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 4: you have no foundation. 804 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,959 Speaker 3: Well, as Marissa said herself, she's learning still. So even 805 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 3: with this experience, she got introduced in a way that 806 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 3: I didn't me either, and the way that I'm willing 807 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 3: to bet a lot of black people didn't get introduced 808 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 3: to socialism that way. 809 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 2: I'm willing to bet you know what I mean, because 810 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 2: I know I'm not alone. 811 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 3: I talk about this shit because motherfuckers always pop up 812 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: like yo, that shit is happening to me too, And 813 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, whatever it is, I know that this 814 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 3: isn't the best way to learn whatever it is. 815 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 2: It wouldn't even matter what you were learning. 816 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: The people jumping down your throat is probably gonna piss 817 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 3: most people off and they're gonna walk away. So maybe 818 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 3: we can find another way. And I recognize that that's 819 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 3: just the medium. So I'm not even like the point 820 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: for me is this. I'm not talking about it on 821 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 3: that medium with anybody anymore. 822 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 2: Y'all got it? You know what I mean? 823 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 3: If that's how you figure it is like same thing 824 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 3: with that Bernie shit. If that's how motherfuckers think the 825 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 3: way to spread the messages, I can't fight you on 826 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 3: that because I won't win that fight. If you've decided 827 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 3: that I'm gonna find people I'm not following look for 828 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 3: that tweet and call them names and shit, I don't 829 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 3: know what to tell y'all in any case. Oh wait, 830 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 3: I say all this to say that our ancestors and 831 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: the legacies are important that we have to do our 832 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 3: own work to honor them rather than slap their face 833 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 3: on the T shirt because it looks good. 834 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 2: I agree. 835 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 3: I say this because we need things like the Black 836 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 3: peanper Party Breakfast program if we are going to survive 837 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 3: these times, but we can't get there, we aren't even 838 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 3: willing to learn and engage the politics or the radical figures 839 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 3: we claim to love. Well, that's why I'm trying to 840 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: learn THO to be honest. All piece of blessings to 841 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 3: your family, and I hope you find some good places 842 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: to have these convos. 843 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna find some good places. I'm determined. 844 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 3: Like I said, once I realized what the disconnect was, 845 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, I'm good, I'm I'm in my element. 846 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: Now we will have people. 847 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 3: I'm listening to these podcasts now, I'm gonna find some 848 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 3: voices to bring on to be like, let's talk about 849 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 3: this ship, because I don't and I don't even mean 850 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 3: like a debate, like I know most people think that. 851 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. 852 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 3: Like even if I just end up interviewing them and 853 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 3: tagging it to the end of an episode, then then 854 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 3: that'll be what it is. But I want to talk 855 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 3: to people. I don't want to fight people. I don't 856 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 3: want to debate people because I'm fucking sick and tired 857 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 3: of people being like, uh, you're uh, I don't agree 858 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 3: with you. You're a Hillary bod. I don't agree with you. 859 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 3: You're a neo, You're a neo liberal. I don't agree 860 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 3: with you. You're a capitalist, I don't agree with Like, 861 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 3: I'm sick of that ship because I know for a 862 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 3: fucking fact black people don't think like that. It's very 863 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 3: fucking insulting to throw that at people over a fucking tweet, 864 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 3: out of context of shit, and I see it happen 865 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 3: and I'm not just talking about me over and over 866 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 3: and over again, and it's gotta be just as fucking 867 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 3: frustrating for people that are like, well, I think we 868 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 3: should do socialism, and then somebody jumps in their face 869 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 3: and goes, well, what hell socialism gonna stop racism? They 870 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 3: must be fucking frustrated too, So let's find a place 871 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 3: where we can talk about this, where nobody's trying to 872 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 3: just comfort at each other's next and maybe something positive 873 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,439 Speaker 3: will come of this. That's what I'm on right now. 874 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 3: So yes, it is going to happen. I'm going like, 875 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 3: I already have some people in mind, but I'm just 876 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 3: doing more research because, you know, because I'm still learning, 877 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 3: so hopefully. 878 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 2: You know pretty fairly, soonly we can bring people on. 879 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 3: Also, let me know if you need if you have 880 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 3: any black socialists, particularly women jendern I performing and trans 881 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 3: folks or on the show, and I can connect you. 882 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 3: I will let you know if a couple people volunteery stuff, 883 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 3: I'll let you know if I need help, seriously, I'll 884 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 3: let you all know. I don't think I'm gonna have 885 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 3: a problem finding these people. Like that's the thing. Like, 886 00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 3: it's almost sad that I got so caught up in 887 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 3: the harassment element of different people hopping in my mentions 888 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 3: to you know, to yell at me, then that I 889 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 3: lost sight of the fact that I can just easily 890 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 3: google the people, because you don't see these people that 891 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 3: do this work. You don't see them on social media 892 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 3: jumping in people's mentions. No you don't, which is a 893 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 3: telltale sign that they about that life. 894 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 2: For real. 895 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 3: Niggas don't have time for that shit when they trying 896 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 3: to help people, when they trying to do shit. You know, 897 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 3: that's what Trump does, jumping people mentions and shit like 898 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 3: people that are actually about that life are out here, like, look, man, 899 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 3: if these niggas don't get it, they won't get it. 900 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean I'm gonna stop trying to do it. 901 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 2: My shit, she says, I see you in Jamaica, caring. 902 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: You better have a two piece. 903 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 4: Yes, y'all, I done lost me some way and I 904 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 4: don't think about sex and I have one of a 905 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 4: two pieces. 906 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: I've been a child, y'all. I'm gone mad. What to them? 907 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 4: You know, everything's been like the one piece and the 908 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 4: granite skirt and like that to come up your hips 909 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 4: and thighs. But now I'm like, I think I'm sexy, 910 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, I might show somebody, show my one packing. 911 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 3: Flows Sincerely, Sorrows funded Sarah Palin spot turns somehow anti 912 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 3: Bernie socialist Marissa. 913 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you. 914 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 3: First of all, sincerely, thank you, Marissa. Like I said, 915 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 3: I wanted to kind of do it now rather than 916 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 3: wait till Saturday to do it, because I was, like, 917 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 3: we just talked about this yesterday, and I actually don't 918 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: feel like waiting because it's still on my mind, you know, 919 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 3: Like I said, people coming. I just keep seeing the 920 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 3: more I learn about black people, the more I learned 921 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 3: how the verse we are and where we're coming from, 922 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 3: and the more love I have in my heart for us, 923 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 3: and the less I want to just throw black people 924 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 3: away because we don't agree about some shit or because 925 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 3: we come in something differ. And I'm trying to move 926 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,439 Speaker 3: the riff raft out of the discussion because honestly, when 927 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 3: people are about just that brand, like she said, when 928 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 3: if your brand is because oh, you know, as matter 929 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 3: of fact, let me go back with Terrell Star. I 930 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 3: don't know what interactions other people have had with him, 931 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 3: but like I said, when that Bernie sandershit started and 932 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 3: I was getting harassed, he had. 933 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 2: Reached out to me. 934 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 3: And he had offered me to go on Reddit, and 935 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 3: like there was a form where basically the Bernie Sanders 936 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 3: people wanted to have black people kind of expressed our 937 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 3: concerns with his campaign, and I declined because I don't 938 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 3: feel that I am. I don't feel that that's my 939 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 3: place to be honest, And I also didn't give a 940 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 3: fuck about Bernie or his campaign. If I'm being honest, 941 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 3: like helping or hurting, I know there had to be 942 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 3: better qualified black people who could come in him and 943 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 3: help because, like I said, I'm I'm I'm a pragmatist. 944 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 3: I am a pragmatist. It doesn't matter retalls I say it. 945 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 3: I understand that people are prose things differently, but I 946 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 3: am so much of a pragmatist. If Bernie finds a 947 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 3: way to make it to the fucking final, like it's 948 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 3: him and Trump, he getting my vote, I don't have. 949 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 3: I don't have all that, Like, I don't have that 950 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,959 Speaker 3: much in it that I'm just gonna be like fuck 951 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 3: that shit. So so at the end of the day, 952 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 3: it's like, I'm not trying to help this niggas campaign, 953 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 3: But I also don't give a fuck, you know. 954 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 2: Uh So that's why I didn't. 955 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 3: But my point being, you know, when he interviewed me 956 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 3: and stuff, he didn't sound like some I'm about to 957 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 3: do this for Hillary. He didn't sound like because I 958 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 3: love the Democrats so much. If anything, the conversation I 959 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 3: had with him, he sounded kind of disappointed that Bernie 960 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 3: and then weren't coming around because he wants a place, 961 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 3: a softer place for black. 962 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 2: People to land. You know, I don't know. 963 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't, like I said, I don't follow him on Twitter, 964 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 3: and shit, we don't interact like that. We're not friends, 965 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 3: and I can't speak for other people's interactions with him. 966 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 3: Just the conversation I had, he wasn't some like I'm 967 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 3: just trying to get these clicks. 968 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: He wasn't. 969 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 3: Now maybe he's changed and that's what he's on now, 970 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 3: or maybe it's easy to dismiss him as that now. 971 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 3: But I saw a dude that cared a lot about 972 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,760 Speaker 3: black people and was like, I want to support someone 973 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 3: other than Hillary Clinton. 974 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: Which a lot of black people can identify with. 975 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,240 Speaker 3: And he was like, this dude isn't giving me anything 976 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 3: to right, And he was actually rather nice about it 977 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,959 Speaker 3: at the time. He didn't really get more pointed about 978 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 3: it until after a lot of harassment and Bernie just 979 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 3: literally denying any discussion about race and shifting to the 980 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 3: economy over and over, and then he finally kind of 981 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 3: rote his piece of like, look this the inside of 982 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 3: Bernie sayings campaign. This is why it's fucked up. And 983 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 3: I remember reading that and being like that all makes sense. 984 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 3: All black people says that. Not all, but most black 985 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 3: people says that that's why they didn't fuck with him. 986 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 3: Most of us were like this dude clearly does not 987 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 3: know shit about black people, even though they keep throwing 988 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 3: out this marsh with King shit, he clearly don't know us. 989 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 3: He don't come from here, he don't even go here. 990 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 3: That's why we're not he's not getting our votes. And 991 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 3: that piece. I shared that piece, and I read that 992 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 3: piece and I agree with that piece. So I don't 993 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 3: know what has happened between then and now. But you know, 994 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 3: maybe he's had some really fucked up engagements with people 995 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 3: that are socialists on Twitter. 996 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. 997 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 3: Maybe he's ignoring all black people who are socialist, which, 998 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 3: just like I said, it would still be fucked up. 999 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 3: I just know at the time that we talked two 1000 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 3: years ago or last year or whatever, I mean, I 1001 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 3: don't I didn't come off like wow, this dude. I 1002 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 3: just feel that agenda like it was very much like 1003 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,959 Speaker 3: maybe socialism can be something for us because democrats ain't it. 1004 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 4: And I'm not even gonna lie h when you start 1005 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 4: talking about socialism and socialist like a lot of it 1006 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 4: is new to me, like you hear the word kind 1007 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 4: of bounced around, but I'm gonna gonna lie I'm very 1008 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 4: ignorant to a lot of things. 1009 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 3: A lot of people are, and it's by design. Like 1010 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 3: she said, if they if they killed the niggas in 1011 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 3: real life, you know they not gonna put it in 1012 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 3: a textbook. 1013 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: Correct. 1014 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 2: I didn't learn about the move. 1015 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 3: I didn't learn about the move bombing until last year, 1016 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. We are operating at a 1017 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 3: fucking deficit. Maybe that's why people are so fucking nasty 1018 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 3: to each other. But the way I'm looking at this 1019 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 3: situation holistically, we literally can't afford it, and we can't 1020 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 3: afford it, like the way we come at each other's 1021 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 3: neck is not if we claim to be about this shit, 1022 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 3: we literally can't afford if I mean, if we're real, 1023 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 3: if we're being like I really do care about this, 1024 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 3: I really sincerely want people to understand this, ship have 1025 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 3: this knowledge, and to better themselves. If that is the truth, 1026 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 3: then we then we then we can't afford to just 1027 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 3: be mocking each other. 1028 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 2: And I mean it. I mean when people come in socialism. 1029 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 3: And be like, so, y'all niggas think Bernie is the 1030 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 3: and black people are like, No, I didn't say that, 1031 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 3: which y'all ain't never caught me saying that. Notice, but no, 1032 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 3: I didn't say that Bernie is the fucking answer, and 1033 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 3: all be y'all the socialism. Oh, so y'all y'all think 1034 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 3: racist are gonna end because of the economy. No, we 1035 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 3: don't believe that, like like that has to be frustrating 1036 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 3: them too. 1037 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:35,479 Speaker 4: True. 1038 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 2: So that's I mean, that's how I'm looking at it. 1039 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 2: And maybe we'll be able to. 1040 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll be able to do something with it, man, 1041 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 3: because I you know, like, to me, it's like, I 1042 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 3: don't want to let the discussion that we're having be 1043 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 3: this fucked up non discussion discussion where we just yelling 1044 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,240 Speaker 3: at each other and ship okay, right. 1045 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 4: Because also I think too, it wasn't into social media 1046 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,919 Speaker 4: that I realized that black people were socialists. I'm gonna 1047 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 4: keep that real because when it came to socialism, I 1048 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,879 Speaker 4: would be in that high ninety percent, it was like, Oh, 1049 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 4: that's them white folks over there. 1050 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: Fuck them, because most socialists. 1051 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 4: That I hear and just present it to me kind 1052 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 4: of in masses don't include niggas, So why would I 1053 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 4: watch my black ass over there? 1054 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think also, it's hard to admit you 1055 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 3: don't know, but you gotta start there if you want 1056 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 3: to learn. I'm telling people I don't know, and I 1057 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 3: don't have an answer, and I don't have any easy solutions, 1058 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 3: so I'm looking for other alternatives. 1059 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 2: That shit is the most important step. If that means. 1060 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get mocked for being like, yeah, I don't 1061 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 3: know about this, then so be it. 1062 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 2: So be it. 1063 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 3: Man, I'll take the mocking. I know most people would 1064 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 3: rather just be like, well fuck this person. 1065 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: Then, because I'm trying to be a better person. 1066 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like most people would just be like fuck that shit. 1067 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,799 Speaker 3: But I'm at a point in my life where this 1068 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 3: shit is important to learn. And I've been you know, 1069 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 3: learning stuff my whole life, and I'm not gonna be 1070 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 3: afraid of that. But yeah, man, like I said, if 1071 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 3: you looked at my mentions like yesterday morning, you'll see 1072 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 3: what I'm saying it's like, oh, these people are being 1073 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 3: fucking they're. 1074 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,359 Speaker 2: Taking you out of context. They're being like. 1075 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 3: This, this hit me up. Bernie bros Is mildly insulted 1076 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 3: me on It's a quote trying to say, this is 1077 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 3: what I think. Bernie bros Valley assaulted me on Twitter. 1078 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 3: So now I want to destroy Yemen? Is that a conversation? 1079 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 3: Can we have a conversation? And this is not me 1080 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 3: hopping in her mentions, This is not me starting to fight, 1081 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 3: I said. My response to that was cool. I'm sure 1082 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 3: the death threats were very mild. 1083 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 2: In your opinion. 1084 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 3: People, Once again, you're performing for your followers. You're not 1085 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 3: engaging in doubt. This isn't real what you're saying my 1086 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 3: com you know, and you want to know what comments 1087 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 3: she was responding to in the first place, me saying 1088 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 3: like I don't hate Bernie saying, but his people talk 1089 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 3: sideways enough for me to stop listening. No one has 1090 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 3: infinite patience. Now that's them. That's what I woke up 1091 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 3: to yesterday, You. 1092 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: Know what I mean. 1093 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, it gotta it can't. It must 1094 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 3: be the force, it must be the place. It can't 1095 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 3: just there's no fucking way. People that are own this 1096 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,760 Speaker 3: shit are acting like that. But that's the pr problem 1097 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 3: is because the vast majority of interactions I had with 1098 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,439 Speaker 3: people that claim to be socialists are that kind of shit. 1099 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 3: And it's like, well that's bad, you know, I just 1100 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 3: you know like that. Another dude hopped in my mentors 1101 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 3: and said I was drunk, and when I was like, okay, well, 1102 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 3: clearly you're not looking for a conversation, he was like, oh, no, 1103 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 3: I do want a conversation, blah blah blah. A woman 1104 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 3: was I think she was even kind of agreeing with him, 1105 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 3: because she was like, no, one tells us that there's 1106 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 3: black socialists anarchists even who exists and. 1107 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 2: Have different narratives and views. We don't learn that shit 1108 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 2: in school. 1109 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 3: And he said something like because they slightly disagreeing, he 1110 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 3: was like, well, I guess you're gonna accuse me of 1111 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 3: rape since you're a feminist in all. 1112 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 2: And I was like, how did we get here? What's happening? 1113 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 2: Like like, maybe it's it's just these people that are 1114 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 2: choosing to engage are just the fucked up people. 1115 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm gonna keep it real, the people that 1116 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,760 Speaker 4: are actually about that life. 1117 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: Guess what they in the streets organizing, they're doing shit. 1118 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 4: They're like, look, social media's right, but what I need 1119 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 4: to be is industry helping my people, right. So yeah, man, 1120 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 4: I just think anyway, I don't want to just start 1121 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 4: lumping these people in as bad people as shit, and 1122 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 4: I think I see that happening a lot now and 1123 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 4: and I'm trying to avoid that because we gotta be 1124 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 4: we gotta be better than this. 1125 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 2: It's too fucking frustrating, you know. 1126 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 3: What I mean, Like, it's too it's too frustrating, and 1127 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 3: maybe we can take something out. But thank you for 1128 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 3: the email, Marissa's sincerely, because it did allow me to 1129 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 3: elaborate on what I was thinking yesterday, because, like I said, 1130 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,919 Speaker 3: I'm not an expert on this, and I didn't have 1131 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 3: the I don't even I guess the privilege of growing 1132 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 3: up around people that was on some socialism shit and 1133 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 3: activism shit and talking to me about this kind of 1134 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 3: shit at a young age or even you know, at 1135 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 3: an older age, like like I don't know any activists 1136 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 3: in my like in my community, like they was it 1137 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 3: just my upbringing was just it wasn't that you know, 1138 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,399 Speaker 3: like from the time, like my parents gave us books 1139 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 3: and shit, and we read them. But it wasn't like, now, 1140 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 3: let me give you a book about socialism. It was 1141 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 3: more stuff like, here's a book about how African people 1142 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 3: arrived in America before the Mayflower. Here's a book on 1143 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 3: what color was Jesus. So you can kind of look 1144 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 3: at the way that people have changed this symbol to 1145 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 3: be whatever they wanted it to be at the time, 1146 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 3: despite the text about this dude. Stuff like that is 1147 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 3: what I read the autobiography of Malcolm X, Like that 1148 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 3: kind of shit. 1149 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 2: Is what I read. Make me want to holler. 1150 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 3: It was a book I remember reading, like my parents 1151 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 3: gave me black books, but they weren't like, now, learn 1152 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 3: about Venezuela, you know what I'm saying, And like that 1153 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 3: is either a luxury that you learn in a classroom 1154 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 3: somewhere for some money, or that's a privilege that you 1155 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 3: get those people in your life that know how to 1156 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 3: steer you in there, but especially in America, and they 1157 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 3: depend on it. If you don't know what you don't know, 1158 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 3: you're going to always make the wrong decisions. You're gonna 1159 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 3: always make mistakes right. As much as a cliche as 1160 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 3: it is, if you don't know your history, you're doing 1161 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 3: to repeat it. 1162 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 2: It's so drug, it's so true. 1163 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 3: We see ignorant motherfuckers speak loudly and wrongly all the time, 1164 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 3: and it's and people are navigating this mind field trying 1165 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,440 Speaker 3: to figure out like what the thing is, and they 1166 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 3: not even armed with the right tools. So I'm just 1167 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 3: trying to get the right tools under my belt because 1168 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 3: you know, no matter where I end up falling on 1169 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 3: any of this shit, I'd. 1170 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 2: Rather know than to not know, correct, you know so? 1171 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 3: And but yeah, I wish motherfuckers would take some of 1172 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 3: this rhetoric out of the conversation because it's just not fruval, 1173 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 3: like you just gonna throw niggas under the bus on 1174 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 3: something like you god damn Obama staying neo liberal. Then 1175 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 3: just then then just don't even talk to them because 1176 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 3: you don't give a fuck. If that's if that's all 1177 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 3: you got for people, you don't give a fuck. And 1178 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 3: the same way the other way too, If all you 1179 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 3: got for this shit is like y'all special snowflake niggas, 1180 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 3: y'all hate black people because y'all mad we vote Democrat, 1181 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 3: then you don't give a fuck either, Like then then 1182 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 3: we might as well just save our breath because nobody's 1183 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 3: listening at that point, and if there are people on 1184 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,479 Speaker 3: either side that are like that, then then there's nothing 1185 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 3: you can do for them anyway. All right, we got 1186 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 3: all kinds of neiggs to get too, we. 1187 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: Do I can I do two A little small random 1188 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: thoughts of course. 1189 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 4: Uh, And I don't know this is a random thoughts, 1190 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 4: but shout out to me yesterday for jumping up and 1191 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 4: forgetting you had the blinds opening and Saturday that was Saturday. 1192 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Saturday. 1193 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, because it's pretty outside, so we kick 1194 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 4: the blinds open and stuff like that, and you get comfortable. 1195 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm in the house. They know we hitting me, so 1196 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't think twice about it. 1197 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 4: So after we finished the show, I jump up and 1198 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 4: started getting undressed and looked up and realized that the 1199 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 4: trees was waving in my face and was like, oh, 1200 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 4: ship down and get. 1201 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 1: Run out of. 1202 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's yeah. Here's the thing though. 1203 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 3: The way O the way our apartment is situated, nobody 1204 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 3: can see you back. 1205 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 2: There anyway, right, So to me, I wasn't even tripping. 1206 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 3: I was like, there's nobody back there to see the titties. 1207 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 2: Anyway, they just and. 1208 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: Y'all I had started taking it all off. 1209 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, it's the squirrels in the 1210 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 2: leaves looking at tit this. So they they went gonna complain. 1211 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 2: What was the other thing? Oh? 1212 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: The other thing is y'all we got We finally got off. 1213 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 4: Rogic about our first I would consider adult knife set 1214 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 4: a couple of reset And I was going through it 1215 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 4: and it's pretty and it has like a knife shopping 1216 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 4: on it and it and it is ridd of really nice. 1217 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 1: And I just realized something. 1218 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 4: I got a chef knife or no chef I was 1219 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 4: looking through the box. I was like, I don't because 1220 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 4: I was looking at the names of the knives, and 1221 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 4: I was like, I got a slice a knife, but 1222 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 4: don't owe knife slice. 1223 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 2: No. Now you're about to walk home to a new 1224 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 2: level of electric. 1225 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 4: I definitely was telling me I got a bread knife. 1226 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: I can break the bread with my hands. I was 1227 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: so confused. I got a parent knife, What the hell 1228 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: am I parenting with? And I got a. 1229 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 4: Serrated utility knife and uh, and I want to say, 1230 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 4: it's s A N t O k U. 1231 00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 1: How you pronounced that? 1232 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 2: So in s A N t o k u. I 1233 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 2: don't sound like something Japanese sat tocu, Right. 1234 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. 1235 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, what is this NATO and I 1236 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 4: don't know what the hell of them do, but I'm 1237 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 4: about to find out. I'm about to YouTube the hell 1238 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 4: out of it and find out what my adult knives 1239 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 4: finally do. 1240 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. 1241 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 3: I bought that off of groupons. They had a good 1242 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 3: sell and I was like, you know what. I was 1243 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 3: looking at some one knife or something we had from 1244 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 3: the set and it looked a little rusty, and I 1245 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 3: was like, you know what, why don't we treat ourselves. 1246 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 3: We we cook at home enough, you know, let's let's 1247 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 3: upgrade our knives. I don't want to be eating no 1248 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 3: rushburgers or whatever. So I was like, let's do that. 1249 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, we got it's I mean, for us guys, 1250 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 3: we ain't rich, Like I said, I ain't you know, 1251 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 3: I ain't wanting the cozies. I ain't go to hell 1252 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 3: and shout to Kanye West's. 1253 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 2: To me it's famous. 1254 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fancy to us, it's fucking fancy to me. 1255 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 1: You got I don't know how to pronounce. 1256 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 3: And then uh uh, let's get into these articles. We'll 1257 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 3: try to do some. Okay, I know this. This has 1258 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 3: been a weird. 1259 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 2: Start to the show doing today. Yeah, But like I 1260 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 2: told y'all, man, I'm on some other ship. 1261 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:15,919 Speaker 1: Man. 1262 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what the show is gonna be. Like, 1263 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 2: we don't know. 1264 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 1: We growing and evolving, y'all. 1265 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 2: Just talking about shit now. 1266 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 3: And I hope people enjoy these conversations because I feel 1267 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 3: like people are having these conversations, but they're not having 1268 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 3: them on the mic. They're not being honest about their process. 1269 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 3: A lot of people try to show themselves as a 1270 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 3: finished product that knows everything at all times, and I 1271 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 3: don't want to present that falsehood to people. So, you know, 1272 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 3: as always as we know more, y'all, hopefully y'all will 1273 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 3: see us no more and give you something to think about, 1274 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 3: because we definitely out here thinking about shit too. 1275 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 1276 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 2: Kanye West reportedly splits from Title. 1277 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 3: Uh. Apparently a month ago, his lawyer sent a letter 1278 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 3: the Title terminating his contract. 1279 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 2: Claiming the company was in breach. 1280 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 3: They worked for two weeks to result of issues on 1281 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 3: both sides, but nothing came of it. Two weeks ago, 1282 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 3: they said a second letter reiterating the contract. 1283 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 2: Deal is over. Title five back with a letter that 1284 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 2: I owned it. 1285 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 3: Former Kanye that as far as Commune is considered concerned, 1286 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 3: they're still exclusive exclusive contract. Therefore we take his talents 1287 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 3: to another streaming service, they will sue. And according to 1288 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 3: Kanye's lawyers, they say title owes him money for some videos, 1289 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 3: but titles like y'all never made the videos, like y'all 1290 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 3: owe us more videos, y'all never put them out. Now 1291 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 3: y'all want us to pay off for videos y'all didn't do, 1292 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 3: and that's the problem. Yeah, and uh, yeah, you know 1293 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 3: Kanye talked about jay Z on that stage. Everybody saw 1294 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 3: one of his rants is about Beyonce or his feelings 1295 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 3: because he heard that she wouldn't perform unless you want 1296 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,480 Speaker 3: video of the Year over him in hotline blame and uh, 1297 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 3: he said, I've been sitting here to give y'all my truth, 1298 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 3: even at the risk of my own life, my own success, 1299 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 3: my own career. 1300 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 2: Jay Z, call me, Bro, you still ain't called me, 1301 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 2: jay Z. 1302 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 3: I know you got killers, Please don't send them at 1303 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 3: my head. Please call me talk to me like a 1304 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 3: man like that was that was at that time where 1305 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 3: I was just like, something's wrong with Kanye. I don't 1306 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 3: know what it is, right, because that sounded like some 1307 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 3: paranoid ranting about this nigga gonna kill you cause you 1308 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 3: said he didn't call you. And also, how the fuck 1309 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 3: you're gonna be on stage talking shit and then be like, 1310 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 3: call me, nigga called me before you go on stage 1311 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 3: talking that shit. 1312 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 2: I hate when niggas do that. 1313 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 3: That's literally one of my biggest pet peeves as a friend, 1314 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 3: like if you fucking if you say some shit that's 1315 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 3: fouled and then expect me to privately come back and 1316 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 3: fix that, fix your mess. Oh now you tried for that, dog. 1317 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no no. If it's in public, 1318 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 3: let it be in public. If it's in private, let's 1319 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 3: keep it in private. But what we not gonna do 1320 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 3: is hop in and out so that you get to 1321 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 3: tell the story to the world and I gotta sit 1322 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 3: back and look like a fucking fool. I still amazed 1323 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 3: by the patience jay Z had to not say nothing, 1324 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 3: because if I would have loaned this nigga to us 1325 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 3: for his fashion shit and he would have been on 1326 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 3: fucking the world Wide Web thissing me, I would have 1327 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,479 Speaker 3: been like, uh, whon the fuck was all this shit 1328 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 3: when when you was asking for that money, bro, like 1329 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 3: I'm the bad guy now, Nigga. I was definitely when 1330 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 3: all the white people told you no talking about starting 1331 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 3: your fashion line, when you was Tomorrow's. 1332 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 2: Racism and shit. And I gave you this money for you. 1333 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 2: I loaned you this money so you. 1334 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 3: Could go out and put your other fucking uh tattoo 1335 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 3: wing kotoa shit out here in the world. And you 1336 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 3: still don't stab me in the back like this. Yeah, 1337 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,120 Speaker 3: he a better man than me because he kept that 1338 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 3: shit even on that ape, and even on the album. 1339 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 3: It didn't even sound he sounded more like that was 1340 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 3: fuck up then fuck Kanye, right, But I could see 1341 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 3: all Kanye being Kanye would be like fuck that shit, 1342 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 3: you know. 1343 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: But I mean, and our lawyers talking, So what do 1344 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 1: we have to talk about? 1345 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 2: Dog? Yeah? He said, I know people backstab you. 1346 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,440 Speaker 3: I felt that too, But this fuck everybody attitude ain't natural. 1347 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 3: But you ain't the same. This ain't Komba. Yeah, this 1348 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 3: ain't Kumbaye. But you got hurt because you do it. 1349 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 3: Kolbay Ye. You gave him twenty million without blinking. He 1350 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 3: gave you twenty minutes on stage. Fuck was he thinking, 1351 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 3: fuck wrong with everybody is what you be saying. But 1352 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 3: if everyone is crazy, you're the one that's insane. So yep, uh, 1353 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 3: But I mean that's that's Kanye's thing. He was on 1354 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,800 Speaker 3: stage a couple of weeks later or whatever talking about 1355 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 3: voting for Trump. 1356 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 2: So what do I know? 1357 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, man, he might be leaving title exclusively, which 1358 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what that means. He'll be streaming his 1359 01:05:55,240 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 3: shit everywhere or other places or what. Yeah, let's see 1360 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,439 Speaker 3: what else happened. Oh, impair driver walked into an AT 1361 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 3: and T store and asked for chicken. I don't know 1362 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 3: the race, y'all. Sorry, this is in Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin. 1363 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 3: Oh white a fifty four year old man. I've been 1364 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 3: arrested for impair driving after the man was reported after 1365 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 3: initially walking into an AT and T store asked for chicken. 1366 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 2: June thirteenth, police responded. 1367 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 3: To a call about a welfare check on a fifty 1368 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 3: four year old man about eleven. 1369 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 2: Am eleven in the morning. Who I think it was 1370 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 2: a pop house right? 1371 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 3: According to the criminal complaint, Fernando's a more fifty four, 1372 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 3: walked into a AT and T store asked for chicken. 1373 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 2: He was a poorly stack. 1374 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: We don't got no chicken contracts. 1375 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 2: He was a reportedly stumbling seen disoriented, try to walk 1376 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 2: out the store by. 1377 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 3: Using the window instead of the door. Damn ah, damn bro. 1378 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 1: He got that like them birds. He can't see it, 1379 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 1: just running. 1380 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,920 Speaker 3: Through it here poorly left the store in an older 1381 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 3: model Cadillact. 1382 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 1: Oh so they seen. They was like, nah, dog, we 1383 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: got to call the cops on you. 1384 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 4: We can't watch you stumble at the store, running the 1385 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 4: running the windows and ship and driving off. 1386 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 2: Older model Cadillact too. H m hm, this is this 1387 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 2: would have been interesting riot his picture. 1388 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 1: Oh, somebody made a good point. 1389 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 4: Somebody said let them find out at and t Ben 1390 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 4: hold out on them for years. Boy, they got that 1391 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 4: chicken in the back. There ain't tell nobody unlimited chicken. 1392 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 4: With your daid plan, you get a chicken box. 1393 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:43,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 1394 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 3: According to police, a myn pleasant officer set up to 1395 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 3: wait on him and as big for his vehicle as 1396 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 3: they headed up Newman Road. 1397 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 1398 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 3: He slowly entered the intersection, only to come to a 1399 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 3: complete stop, coording the criminal complaint. When the officer asked 1400 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 3: him more why he stopped in the middle of the intersection, 1401 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 3: he stated his brakes were bad ha ha. He eventually 1402 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 3: got some murder to go slowly through the intersection and 1403 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 3: stop on the side road. He asked him about going 1404 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,440 Speaker 3: to the AT and T store, and Boyley couldn't even 1405 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 3: remember he hadn't consumed any alcoholic state that he had 1406 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 3: taken xanax and adderall earlier to day. 1407 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 2: Damn the opposite anyway and down. 1408 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,639 Speaker 3: He failed several field sobriety tests and he was taking 1409 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:29,920 Speaker 3: in the custody. I help, he's okay, Uh yeah, let 1410 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 3: me get an iPhone and the Uh we gotta wait 1411 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 3: on spicy. 1412 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 2: Uh. I know it's AT and T, but mm. 1413 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 1: Hmmm, you won't. Ca just sparkled. You gotta go to Verizon. 1414 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,639 Speaker 3: A man rammed a packet of bacon onto a Muslim 1415 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 3: team's face. What as he shouted, she was icele scum 1416 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 3: while his friend filmed it. 1417 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 2: Uh he was jailed for six months. 1418 01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 1: Was his friend jail too? Hmmm a point because some 1419 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:02,640 Speaker 1: uploaded it. 1420 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I don't see it in the article. Mm hmm, yeah, 1421 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:12,840 Speaker 3: I don't see it in the article. 1422 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 4: Maybe that's what ship I look at. I'm going okay, 1423 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,440 Speaker 4: but you filmed the crime. 1424 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 3: Dog and then how they did they put on the 1425 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 3: internet somebody did hm hmm, his niggas got caught. 1426 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it was a white person, yeah course. 1427 01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 3: And and then they know that the Muslim religion, you know, 1428 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 3: the pig is this dirty, discussing animal, and uh, you 1429 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,919 Speaker 3: know you're not supposed touch it, the eat or anything. 1430 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:44,600 Speaker 3: And so this motherfucker went and bought some bacon to 1431 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 3: throw at a Muslim, to shove it in their face. 1432 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,680 Speaker 4: And you know what what happened if they would have 1433 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,599 Speaker 4: run across the muther like, I don't give it damn 1434 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 4: about that. 1435 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:54,559 Speaker 1: I eat bacon. 1436 01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 2: I don't think that's how that works. They don't, like, 1437 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 2: if you're practicing. 1438 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 3: Muslim, you're not supposed to be fucking with no type 1439 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 3: of pig shit. That's why he did it, period. Even 1440 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 3: like the black Muslims in America don't fuck with that 1441 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 3: baking shit. 1442 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 2: Like you ask them, nigga, I don't mess with that swine, brother. 1443 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:17,280 Speaker 2: They always like. 1444 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 3: That's the only thing too, like they Muslim and I'm not. 1445 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 3: But if you hang with a Mussele person, you eat 1446 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 3: some pork in front of them, you gotta have a 1447 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 3: fucking conversation. 1448 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 2: That shit sucks did you know a pig is a rat, 1449 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 2: cat and a dog. 1450 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 4: I'll be like, dogs, it is fucking delicious. We're not 1451 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 4: gonna have this conversation every Thanksgiving. 1452 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I'm just trying to eat a ham 1453 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 3: fucking sandwich. 1454 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 2: Dog. 1455 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,640 Speaker 3: I am not trying to go over how terrible this 1456 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,760 Speaker 3: is for me. Okay, like I get it, you know, 1457 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 3: like this is just but this is what I'm on 1458 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 3: you on some different shit. 1459 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 2: I don't judge you. 1460 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 1: I sure don't. 1461 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 3: I don't tell you that bean Pie's is nasty. I 1462 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 3: don't say that. I'm like, hey, that's. 1463 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,640 Speaker 2: Cool, bro, good for you. No, I don't want to 1464 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 2: buy any you know. 1465 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,080 Speaker 3: I don't say nothing about the Hey, look we don't 1466 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 3: need a final call. 1467 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 1: Dog. 1468 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 3: You know we got the internet in our hands now. 1469 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 3: I don't say that ship. I keep it polite. I 1470 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,600 Speaker 3: think the least you can do when you see me 1471 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,759 Speaker 3: ordering the fucking sausage, egg and cheese is keep it polite. 1472 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,720 Speaker 2: And let that be my choice. Right, Let's let's let's 1473 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:18,479 Speaker 2: honor each other. 1474 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,559 Speaker 1: Okay, that's all I ask. 1475 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, that this diabolical because that means he fucking 1476 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 3: playing this ship to go buy the bacon to do this, 1477 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 3: so you don't just be walking out the street with 1478 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 3: a fucking half a pound of bacon or some shit 1479 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,719 Speaker 3: like you. You bought that to do a hate crime 1480 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 3: and he only got six months. I had to pay 1481 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,720 Speaker 3: like one hundred and something euros to her. 1482 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 4: Mm that that I don't know what enough it is, 1483 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,360 Speaker 4: but that because you need to start making examples of 1484 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:46,800 Speaker 4: people don't do this fuck shit. 1485 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 2: M h uh. 1486 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 3: Let's see, let's do some fucking with black people if 1487 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 3: we can actually let me bring that up. 1488 01:11:58,880 --> 01:11:59,639 Speaker 2: Some music. 1489 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:04,559 Speaker 3: But uh yeah, that uh, that should be a hate crime. 1490 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 3: Six months. I know it's just quote unquote just baking 1491 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 3: in the face, but I feel like you should compound 1492 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:10,479 Speaker 3: that shit. 1493 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:10,600 Speaker 4: Bro. 1494 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:11,719 Speaker 2: You did it because they were Muslim. 1495 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 3: You didn't do that to just anybody down the street, 1496 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,640 Speaker 3: right like you waited for somebody Muslim come walking down 1497 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,800 Speaker 3: the street before you pour that shit out. And I 1498 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 3: noticed you did it to a woman, which is I'm 1499 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,799 Speaker 3: noticing more and more a lot of these crimes focused 1500 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 3: on targeted women, you. 1501 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 1: Know, because the men put them hands on you. 1502 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,720 Speaker 3: Right y'all, wait to find some you know. Even the 1503 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 3: dude on the bus in Washington. 1504 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Fucking women in his job. 1505 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 2: Right, A lot of this. 1506 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,599 Speaker 3: Shit focuses on women because these cowards feel like they 1507 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 3: safe attacking these women. 1508 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,840 Speaker 4: But they gonna sucking around and mess with the wrong women. 1509 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 4: They gonna give them the business. 1510 01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw a video of this woman and 1511 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,880 Speaker 3: this girl in her job at high school. I guess 1512 01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 3: dude did something to him and she turned around, throw 1513 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,600 Speaker 3: them hands and she had perfect fighting skilled like she 1514 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 3: been wainting now. 1515 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 1: Her whole lifeing her. Hey, don't let nobody fuck. 1516 01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,680 Speaker 2: With you, right, y'all keep fucking with them people. Y'all won't. Man, 1517 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:01,919 Speaker 2: they don't play that ship. 1518 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 3: All right, which is, by the way, which betrays everything 1519 01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 3: white people say about muscles, because if they truly thought 1520 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,599 Speaker 3: they were some dangerous terrorist blah blah blah, they. 1521 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,280 Speaker 2: Wouldn't be fucking with them. 1522 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 3: Y'all fuck with them because you know they are religion 1523 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,320 Speaker 3: to piece and you don't expect that no retaliation, that's 1524 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 3: why you do it. They different, and y'all could pick 1525 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 3: on them because they're brown. Yeah, y'all not slick. 1526 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, But if they was really doing all these terrible 1527 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 4: things y'all thought, y'all wouldn't be people. 1528 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 3: Right, Like how black people are are fucking monsters and 1529 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 3: we're violent and all this shit. But yet y'all keep 1530 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 3: fucking with us. It's not us walking down the street fucking. 1531 01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 2: With you, you know what I mean? Like, it's y'all 1532 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,479 Speaker 2: fucking with us. I don't, I don't. 1533 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not stupid at any rate. Let's go 1534 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 3: into this, uh fucking with black. 1535 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,160 Speaker 2: People or where's my music? 1536 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 3: We're just fucking with those black people. Were just fucking 1537 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 3: with those blacks. 1538 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 2: We're just fucking with fucking with black people. 1539 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 3: That's right, guys, trying to play the game we all 1540 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 3: hate to play fucking with black people where we go 1541 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:14,320 Speaker 3: all around to. 1542 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 2: Go for five different articles make us so fuck with him? 1543 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 2: We were talking point scortes fromzero twe hundred and for 1544 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,800 Speaker 2: how much we still fuck with this black people? 1545 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:29,600 Speaker 3: Today's contestants, everybody, all right, let's see what happened. A 1546 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,439 Speaker 3: delivery man was given a noose by a New York 1547 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,880 Speaker 3: City butcher and says he can. 1548 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 2: No longer go to work. The delivery man, the black 1549 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,120 Speaker 2: delivery man. 1550 01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 3: He was headed a noose by the owner of the 1551 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 3: fan Ultra Monelli and Sons Meat market, claims he's too 1552 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 3: traumatized to go back to work. 1553 01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 2: Victor Shepherd says he was. 1554 01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 3: Not comfortable returning to his job with Hunt's Point meat 1555 01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:01,800 Speaker 3: distributor My'sna Brand Family Brands because it continued to serve 1556 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 3: Bleaker Street Butcher Start even after the disturbing quote unquote gift. 1557 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,639 Speaker 2: I could have lost my life. 1558 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,519 Speaker 3: And been badly injured in jail, and I didn't mean 1559 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 3: anything too, and it didn't mean anything to him, Shepherd said. 1560 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,960 Speaker 3: It's not either returning to an environment where you mean nothing. 1561 01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 3: Sheppard's attorney insistant in thirty seven year old couldn't continue 1562 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 3: to work. Victor could not return to that environment. His 1563 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 3: employer knew exactly what happened or was supportive, but they 1564 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:30,400 Speaker 3: never stopped doing business with Ottomonelli. He added that Shepard 1565 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,400 Speaker 3: is unable to sleep through the night and unsure that 1566 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:37,719 Speaker 3: with his life would return to normal. Shevard's boss, Michael Masner, 1567 01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 3: said he should He could have applied for disability leave 1568 01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 3: and was off of free counseling. First of all, disability, 1569 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:44,840 Speaker 3: You're only gonna give me like six percent. 1570 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 2: Of my check. 1571 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 3: Come on, and I didn't do nothing wrong, he said, 1572 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 3: but that Sheppard didn't pursue either option, Shephard would have 1573 01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 3: been assigned a different delivery route, keeping him away from 1574 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,920 Speaker 3: otto Manelli and sons, but failed to show up the 1575 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 3: work on two occasions. Marsner said, naturally, we were hard 1576 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 3: fired about what had happened. Uh yeah, but y'all kept 1577 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:02,800 Speaker 3: delivering there. 1578 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 1: That was his thing. 1579 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 2: So how y'all horrifed and. 1580 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 1: You're sending other black people over there there too. 1581 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,759 Speaker 2: Probably must be two Horrifid's. 1582 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaker 3: Right cause, but I think of horrified, I think about 1583 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 3: not going back somewhere. 1584 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 2: They think of horrified, they'd be like, we'll just switch 1585 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:20,719 Speaker 2: to a white driver. 1586 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,919 Speaker 1: Right business. 1587 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 3: We did everything we could hold the spot. He just 1588 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,479 Speaker 3: didn't do his part, he said. 1589 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 2: The delivery company sent Shepard to notice June knife for them. 1590 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,719 Speaker 2: The company assumed he abandoned the job. 1591 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 3: Joe Ottomanelli passed Shepard a hand fashioned noose at the 1592 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,719 Speaker 3: butcher shop April fifth, during the morning meat delivery. 1593 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:40,719 Speaker 2: Here's your gift. 1594 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 3: You can put around your neck at pull if you 1595 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 3: want to end it all. If you're feeling stressed out, 1596 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,080 Speaker 3: I can help you with it. Alo Manelli is charged 1597 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:50,760 Speaker 3: with a hate crime. 1598 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 2: Why would you do this? The butcher's lawyer said it 1599 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,000 Speaker 2: was a joke, just a bad joke. 1600 01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 1: Mmmm Mmmm. I would suit both my company and I 1601 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:02,920 Speaker 1: would sue him. 1602 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, if you tweet I kill all the white people, 1603 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 3: the fucking police will show up at your house. They 1604 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 3: want to assume it's a joke, like we talked about 1605 01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,720 Speaker 3: people that have gotten arrested for tweeting some shit like that, 1606 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,880 Speaker 3: you know. Meanwhile, motherfucker's mentions full of threats if you black, 1607 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,760 Speaker 3: and it ain't shit gonna happen. There's no reason for 1608 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 3: this man to quit his job. Side of reason that 1609 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 3: suing is easier than work in. Kobe said Koobe had 1610 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,000 Speaker 3: missed the news or deal was hateful and deplorable, but 1611 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 3: argues that it was an inappropriate pank pranking, not a crime. 1612 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess white people get to the. 1613 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:39,080 Speaker 1: Side guys, right, If I'm not terroized, why the fuck 1614 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:39,600 Speaker 1: should you be? 1615 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:41,479 Speaker 2: Sheppard said. 1616 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 3: The incident puts me in a bad place and makes 1617 01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:44,960 Speaker 3: me think about what my assets had to go through 1618 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,599 Speaker 3: in this country. He's not fouled a lawsuit against Doto, 1619 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,800 Speaker 3: Manelli and sons. We are at a tipping point and 1620 01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:55,640 Speaker 3: it can't get worse, Sheppard said, and that due in 1621 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 3: court September nineteen zero two, one hundred can. 1622 01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,960 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's one. Joe Hope He Sue's hope. 1623 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:06,879 Speaker 2: Yep, I agree a hundred percent. That's disgusting. 1624 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 1: Dog. 1625 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 2: Uh, let's see what else he got. 1626 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 1: Uh? 1627 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 3: Lee Garrett, the white dude on The Bachelor that got 1628 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,879 Speaker 3: accused of being racist on I mean accused. 1629 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:21,080 Speaker 2: We read the tweet. He's he's on a Twitter redemption tour. 1630 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:29,840 Speaker 1: What does this mean? Yeah? What a what are you 1631 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:30,679 Speaker 1: redeeming from? 1632 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,560 Speaker 3: He finally responding to tweets that made him with the 1633 01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,120 Speaker 3: subject of negative press. Taking a page from our president's 1634 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 3: on Twitter playbook, he announced Monday that he's rapping his 1635 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 3: fist and gloves for battle with fake news. 1636 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,400 Speaker 2: What how's it fake news if it's just pictures of 1637 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,639 Speaker 2: what you already tweeted? Bruh, you tweeted that shit. 1638 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 3: You made your account private so you could delete it 1639 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 3: and pretend that you didn't correct. Uh he has a 1640 01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:04,040 Speaker 3: now private Twitter account and you know where he said 1641 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 3: a bunch of fuck shit, like when's the last time 1642 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 3: you actually saw a pretty feminist and a now the 1643 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,160 Speaker 3: leader reply on Monday, posted more than a year after 1644 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 3: the original tweet, he wrote, take a joke seriously. 1645 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 2: Over a year later, he deleted. 1646 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 3: That tweet all of the replaces with one that said, 1647 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 3: of course that are pretty feminists. Replied to a July 1648 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,040 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen post that said the former president Richard Nixon 1649 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 3: should be completely exonerated and issued an apology, he said, 1650 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 3: obviously finally to sarcasm on another Monday, where he had 1651 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,880 Speaker 3: tweeted out in twenty sixteen, the Orlando killer pledge that 1652 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,360 Speaker 3: leads us to isis if you think this? 1653 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,519 Speaker 2: Asked this was a move. 1654 01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,320 Speaker 3: Simply against the gay community, and he replied, again, we 1655 01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:49,680 Speaker 3: are all Americans. 1656 01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 2: This is an attack on all our brother's decisions. Hashtag 1657 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:58,760 Speaker 2: FA fake news, false narrative. Yeah, that was. 1658 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,120 Speaker 3: I hate when people do that, They pivot towards the like, 1659 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,640 Speaker 3: oh yeah, it's not about y'all being gay, It's just 1660 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,160 Speaker 3: all of America. All lives matter to me, All genders 1661 01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 3: and sexualities matter to me. 1662 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 2: Fuck out of here. 1663 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:13,760 Speaker 3: That dude walked out of his house and said, I 1664 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 3: specifically want to kill some brown and black people of 1665 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:23,040 Speaker 3: that of LGBTQ, you know, orientation. 1666 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 2: That night he targeted them. That was why, what, what the. 1667 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,320 Speaker 3: Fuck could be the point of denying that, what do 1668 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,439 Speaker 3: you win for that? People are fucking dead and you're 1669 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 3: just trying to score points online. You know, same thing 1670 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:40,479 Speaker 3: with that person talking about I guess we can bomb 1671 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,880 Speaker 3: yomen talking to me like y'all don't care. Stop acting 1672 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,960 Speaker 3: like you care. I'm not trying to win an online debate. 1673 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck about who wins the online debate. 1674 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:51,920 Speaker 3: If you're gonna do something about it, then what can 1675 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:56,720 Speaker 3: we do? Let's talk about that anyway. Fake News got 1676 01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,160 Speaker 3: this when it ran with a typically false narrative, said, is, 1677 01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,200 Speaker 3: after all this quote unquote, this is a twenty sixteen 1678 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,439 Speaker 3: year old if all this talking this quote unquote gay 1679 01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,840 Speaker 3: community talk, all these rainbow flags instead of American flags 1680 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,800 Speaker 3: when it comes to dot dot dot uh. And then 1681 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 3: he replied to that one. Fake News got this one 1682 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 3: and ran with a typical false narrative, it's actually in 1683 01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 3: support of true equality. 1684 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:26,599 Speaker 2: As we are all Americans. M Yeah, okay, zero, tie hundred, 1685 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 2: oh he gets one hundred, yeah, one hundred. 1686 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:35,280 Speaker 3: And also that was those are horrible, got those are? 1687 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,679 Speaker 3: Those are absolutely horrible. Those are There was nothing about 1688 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,920 Speaker 3: those responses. 1689 01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:43,800 Speaker 2: That, uh that exonerated anything that you said. 1690 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:51,559 Speaker 3: Correct, Uh, you ignorant. How there's a lot of stars 1691 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,200 Speaker 3: in this. I don't know what she said anyway, a 1692 01:21:55,280 --> 01:22:00,720 Speaker 3: white woman uh went off on vow race with vile 1693 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:09,639 Speaker 3: racist abuse at a public library s John Ah, even 1694 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,559 Speaker 3: attacking a seven year old African boy. 1695 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:17,840 Speaker 2: Hmm. I wonder why she would do something like that. 1696 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:23,559 Speaker 2: That seems rather I don't even think this is in America. 1697 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 2: So do they have economic anxiety in Australia? 1698 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,200 Speaker 5: An extraordinary right usestaff burst in front of shocked families. 1699 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,800 Speaker 2: It's lunchtime at the council. I don't know. Maybe it's 1700 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 2: somethings you said, don't follow me around, ignorant Indian bitch. 1701 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:50,560 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, be something I don't you know. 1702 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,720 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe there's other racist slang I'm not aware of. 1703 01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,080 Speaker 1: Are you in Goden City? 1704 01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 2: A macrobized children at prisons? 1705 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 1: But still this woman doesn't hold that. You don't have. 1706 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:14,519 Speaker 2: Your alegal people. It's like the whole world is all 1707 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,760 Speaker 2: this ship mm hmm, yeah, yeah, the whole world. It's like. 1708 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,080 Speaker 1: It's just something like a boon off and the only 1709 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 1: white people got to. 1710 01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,360 Speaker 2: Notice only say, ain't no safe place for niggas. 1711 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 1: Dob anywhere in the world. I don't think people fail 1712 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,000 Speaker 1: to realize that. 1713 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,439 Speaker 4: We talk about all the time soccer players and uh 1714 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 4: and people in other places out in public, and bananas 1715 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 4: and ship thrown at them, being called monkeys like that 1716 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:40,760 Speaker 4: ship is everywhere? 1717 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,799 Speaker 2: Oh wait, and I forgot to mention this earlier about Marissa. 1718 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 2: Who are you? What do you even do? Nobody knows 1719 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 2: who you are or what your work is? 1720 01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:56,000 Speaker 1: You belong here? 1721 01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,680 Speaker 2: Do you even go here? Why are you trying to 1722 01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:02,519 Speaker 2: act like you out here doing something to help? People? 1723 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:07,360 Speaker 2: Don't care? You need to leave me alone? Okay, Jesus, 1724 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 2: this was wrong. 1725 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 3: Trying to pin up over here sitting at Master's table 1726 01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:20,559 Speaker 3: slipping his lemonade. Buy Motisa, that's what's wrong with you? Comes, 1727 01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,519 Speaker 3: I'm I'm the woke is one. I'm I'm the woke Hollando. 1728 01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,479 Speaker 3: It can only be one. Don't you ever ever in 1729 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,360 Speaker 3: your life come and meet blocked by the way if 1730 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,200 Speaker 3: you try to even don't you even try to come back. 1731 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:36,559 Speaker 2: I already blocked your all. 1732 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,760 Speaker 3: Social media platforms, and I will continue to talk about your. 1733 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 2: Ass and all that. 1734 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,040 Speaker 1: And I still expect my friends. 1735 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,400 Speaker 2: And I still expect you to be out in these 1736 01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,240 Speaker 2: streets when something happened to a black person. I don't 1737 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,960 Speaker 2: give a fun feel free and I don't and I 1738 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,080 Speaker 2: won't know your work then. 1739 01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 3: By the way, oh lord, yeah, we read the whole 1740 01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,240 Speaker 3: article about about Uber and I was just like, I 1741 01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:58,320 Speaker 3: don't know who is this person? 1742 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 2: Wh did she get? Who cares if she got kicked out? 1743 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:02,880 Speaker 2: Why are we reading this? 1744 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:03,280 Speaker 1: You know? 1745 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:04,439 Speaker 4: Uh? 1746 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:09,439 Speaker 3: Anyway, one hundred for that last one. You know what, 1747 01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,760 Speaker 3: Let's just get straight to guest the race, guys. And 1748 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,759 Speaker 3: it looks like it's time to go to the next segment. 1749 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,080 Speaker 3: Oh wait, no, we got five minutes. All right, let's 1750 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:22,720 Speaker 3: play some guests the race guys. Uh, now that is 1751 01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:26,840 Speaker 3: time for some guests the race. That's right, it's guests 1752 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 3: the race time. 1753 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,479 Speaker 2: Now, that is time for some guests the rays. 1754 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 3: That's right, it's guests the race time. That's right, it's 1755 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,360 Speaker 3: time for guest the race. The number one game show 1756 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:42,920 Speaker 3: going across all the podcasts line. We read to play 1757 01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,479 Speaker 3: news arks from all over the globe, and we asked. 1758 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,120 Speaker 2: Our contestants today carrying in the chat room to guests, 1759 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,760 Speaker 2: duh rays, and they all play along and all of 1760 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,439 Speaker 2: them are races. All right, all right, all right, all right, 1761 01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:02,280 Speaker 2: let's see. How about Wait, how did that one even 1762 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:03,720 Speaker 2: get in there? Oh? 1763 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:04,000 Speaker 1: I know? 1764 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,439 Speaker 2: Okay, all right cool. An owner of a mansion with 1765 01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:14,400 Speaker 2: eighty neglected Great Danes says, I'm innocent. White damn going 1766 01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:15,439 Speaker 2: with white already? Okay? 1767 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,400 Speaker 1: Ain't them dolls and great Dane? The doll? 1768 01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:22,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Scooby Doo was a Great Dane? The owner? What 1769 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:27,600 Speaker 2: would Scrappy do if Scooby was a Great Dane? What 1770 01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:33,920 Speaker 2: the fuck was Scrappy do a little Dane? I don't know, Okay, 1771 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:38,880 Speaker 2: you said, I don't know. 1772 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,040 Speaker 3: The owner of an eight bedroom mansion in New Hampshire 1773 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,120 Speaker 3: where more than eighty neglected Great Danes was seas and 1774 01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,560 Speaker 3: since she's innocent. The lawyer for Christina Fay told the 1775 01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,200 Speaker 3: Associated Press on Wednesday that there's more to the case 1776 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,759 Speaker 3: than they can talk about now, and that his client 1777 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,799 Speaker 3: maintains her innocence. Earlier this month, police and animal welfare 1778 01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,280 Speaker 3: worker season eighty four neglect the Great Danes Rescue teams 1779 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:07,400 Speaker 3: say the house, previously valued for tax purposes at one 1780 01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,320 Speaker 3: point four to five million, was covered in feces across 1781 01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:10,840 Speaker 3: the floor. 1782 01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:15,160 Speaker 1: I bet you beas dolls with them dogs are huge. 1783 01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 3: Across the floor walls and uh, the furniture and the 1784 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,040 Speaker 3: food preparation area was littered with raw riding chicken that 1785 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:27,559 Speaker 3: she was planning on bringing to a pot. 1786 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 2: Look at one of y'all's jobs. Oh, oh, have you 1787 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:37,040 Speaker 2: tried my chicken palm? It's to die for. 1788 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,240 Speaker 3: Oh, just move that turd. Faye has been charged with 1789 01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,840 Speaker 3: two kinds of animal cruelty. Many of the eighty four 1790 01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,640 Speaker 3: animals had free roam of the eight bedroom house, not 1791 01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,200 Speaker 3: baths and gated mansion. 1792 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,040 Speaker 2: Others were kept in cages and caged off areas. 1793 01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah can, yeah, it was hard fire in and of itself, 1794 01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:57,800 Speaker 3: but I've never seen conditions like this in the house 1795 01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 3: of that magnitude. Lindsey Hamrick, new Hampsra, State director of 1796 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,439 Speaker 3: the Humane Society the United States, told the Union leader 1797 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,759 Speaker 3: Faye was poorly selling the puppies for twenty five hundred 1798 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,720 Speaker 3: dollars each under the kennel name. 1799 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,240 Speaker 2: Then let song monde A try make it sound fancy. 1800 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 2: Meanwhile the house looking like a shit storm. 1801 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,599 Speaker 3: The website shows photos of the dogs in the open 1802 01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,760 Speaker 3: grounds or in seemingly clean areas within the home. 1803 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:20,439 Speaker 2: At some point I got choked up. 1804 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,520 Speaker 3: It's terrible to see animals treated like this, said Tonia McCarthy, 1805 01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 3: a cruelty investigator with the Pope Memorial SPCA Concord who 1806 01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 3: received a tip off of the photos of the Wolfboro property. 1807 01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,200 Speaker 3: Conditions were deplorable. I'm trying hard to find words to describe. 1808 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,120 Speaker 3: It was certainly a situation that no animals should be 1809 01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:37,439 Speaker 3: kept in. 1810 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:40,760 Speaker 2: So yeah. 1811 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,080 Speaker 3: The dogs range from puppies a few weeks old to 1812 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,960 Speaker 3: adult dogs. And they were seized and received veterinary treatment, 1813 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,640 Speaker 3: and many were found with infections or our irritation from 1814 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:55,200 Speaker 3: the conditions. Two veterinarians brought in by the Humane Society 1815 01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,160 Speaker 3: the United States said that many of the animals also 1816 01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,559 Speaker 3: had skin conditions and viral infections contagious. The other dogs shit, 1817 01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,880 Speaker 3: They will not be available for adoption until the case 1818 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,040 Speaker 3: against k is her and they are evidence as they 1819 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:08,439 Speaker 3: are evidence of the criminal case. 1820 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,719 Speaker 2: Yess the race of this woman? Karen? All right, Karen's 1821 01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 2: going with White. Let me see how much time we have. 1822 01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,639 Speaker 2: Uh we only got one minute. 1823 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,880 Speaker 3: I'll checked the chat room real quick. Hurry up, great 1824 01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,519 Speaker 3: gardens two point oh White. Not surprisingly, she couldn't make 1825 01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:30,320 Speaker 3: those great dangs great again. Corella Deville shiit not nasty, white, neglectful, 1826 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 3: love of white, mention, full of dogs, whiteness at his peak, 1827 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:34,759 Speaker 3: white white, white white. 1828 01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:53,120 Speaker 2: The correct answer is she was white, and nobody missed it. 1829 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,080 Speaker 4: By the way, some I said twenty three cents a 1830 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,080 Speaker 4: day to saving with the music in the background. 1831 01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:03,280 Speaker 2: In the arms up angel. Yeah, she was in there. 1832 01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:11,240 Speaker 2: The dogs, this ship everywhere. That's disgusting, man. Uh like 1833 01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:12,519 Speaker 2: the picture is not showing up. 1834 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:13,640 Speaker 1: We see it. 1835 01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you did see it. 1836 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,679 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let me go to the next segment, y'all, 1837 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,040 Speaker 3: and we'll come back and go to the to the 1838 01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:20,639 Speaker 3: next story. 1839 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:26,200 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after thieves messages. We'll be right back, 1840 01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:29,920 Speaker 2: all right. 1841 01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you said eight or nine dollars? What niggas you know, 1842 01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:36,280 Speaker 1: got damn damn dogs. 1843 01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,160 Speaker 2: That's how I would have been walking around that house. 1844 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,680 Speaker 1: What like, what the fuck is happening in hell? 1845 01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:14,720 Speaker 2: Most ship in this room, Oh my god, the room and. 1846 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:15,679 Speaker 1: The top too. 1847 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,599 Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god. They got the shower road chicken 1848 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,080 Speaker 2: in the in the kitchen, oh my god, Oh my god, 1849 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,439 Speaker 2: the extra bedroom. Oh my god. 1850 01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,519 Speaker 1: They even got the walking closet. Mm hmm. 1851 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:37,160 Speaker 2: Nah, that's trashic. Uh no, ma'am, noop mm hmm. 1852 01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,080 Speaker 3: A man has been charged with breaking into twelve homes 1853 01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:43,320 Speaker 3: tenant off for termites. 1854 01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 1: White. 1855 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:51,280 Speaker 2: You early at the gate to day, ain't you you 1856 01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:53,880 Speaker 2: say vote with the sism. I hear you. 1857 01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,599 Speaker 1: I might be wrong, but goddamn it white. 1858 01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:02,759 Speaker 3: David Cooper, thirty six, faces charge residential Burgley, armed residential Burgley, 1859 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,880 Speaker 3: and dealing in stolen property. Saint peter Burg Police Department 1860 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,920 Speaker 3: said the incident has occurred over the last five weeks. 1861 01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,760 Speaker 3: He didn't wear any gear to deal with the fumes either. 1862 01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:12,960 Speaker 2: He recovered rifles. 1863 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:17,320 Speaker 3: They recovered rifles, a handgun, ammunition, electronics, jewelry, cash, and 1864 01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,800 Speaker 3: more that were taken from the homes. Police said that 1865 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,360 Speaker 3: when Cooper was taking in the cussy, he was in 1866 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 3: possession of a handgun. Karen's going white. Let's see what 1867 01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,320 Speaker 3: the chat room thinks his race is. That was a 1868 01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:35,960 Speaker 3: quick one, white, says Natty. Uh, everybody else taking a 1869 01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,560 Speaker 3: sweet ass time slow. 1870 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:40,080 Speaker 2: That was a quick one. 1871 01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:44,960 Speaker 3: Y'all know y'all weren't ready white idiot. I mean you know, 1872 01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,800 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say you're wrong white on his face? 1873 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:55,200 Speaker 3: The white man, uh term might be white. Ah, that 1874 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,040 Speaker 3: is pretty fucking awesome. Uh. 1875 01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,519 Speaker 2: The correct answer is he was white. 1876 01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,960 Speaker 1: How'd you know you said termite? 1877 01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. I didn't know termic was associated 1878 01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:21,559 Speaker 3: with whiteness. But they learned something new every day. 1879 01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:23,679 Speaker 1: Niggas can afford it. They ain't dealing with no bugs 1880 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,599 Speaker 1: eating they wood up and ship yep. 1881 01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,680 Speaker 2: Uh, so did this picture show up yet? 1882 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:35,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? He yeah, I know one thing. I don't even 1883 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,160 Speaker 1: fuck with bugs in the house, and I ain't. 1884 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:40,639 Speaker 3: Gonna deal with wood right, And they were, which means 1885 01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:44,360 Speaker 3: that they had the chemicals in there, you know, so 1886 01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,760 Speaker 3: like you can, it held them fumes and dying ship. 1887 01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,080 Speaker 2: People have to move out. 1888 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:49,880 Speaker 3: I guess that's how he knew you had to move 1889 01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,240 Speaker 3: out the house. But then he didn't want no equipment, right, 1890 01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,160 Speaker 3: mm hmmm. All right, let's go to the bonus round, 1891 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:10,840 Speaker 3: double up, saying the race, double up, saying the race. 1892 01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:13,519 Speaker 3: That's right, double the point, double the race, and the 1893 01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,760 Speaker 3: bonus round against the race. So far, Karen is two 1894 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:21,040 Speaker 3: for two and got it really got it done really fast, 1895 01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:27,680 Speaker 3: So I know I am nervous. I don't know. All right, 1896 01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:33,280 Speaker 3: let's see what you do in the last round, all right, Uh, 1897 01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:40,280 Speaker 3: crowd pleasers. Couple is busted for performing a series of 1898 01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,960 Speaker 3: sex acts in a park in front of hundreds of visitors. 1899 01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:50,960 Speaker 2: Ain't no shame in their game? Oh and I don't 1900 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:51,519 Speaker 2: think they have. 1901 01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,000 Speaker 3: At least last when I checked, they didn't have pictures 1902 01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,719 Speaker 3: of a woman last time. Let me let this article 1903 01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,920 Speaker 3: old and I'll let y'all know it would just get 1904 01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:01,400 Speaker 3: him or were guessing the one. 1905 01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,920 Speaker 2: I know they had pictures of the dude, okay, but 1906 01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,080 Speaker 2: from my understanding, the pictures of the women weren't. Yeah, 1907 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,240 Speaker 2: that's still not in him. Okay, So you're only guessing 1908 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:10,680 Speaker 2: the race of the dude. We don't know the race 1909 01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:11,719 Speaker 2: of the woman. Okay, guys. 1910 01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:14,519 Speaker 3: A man and a woman were charging in decent exposure 1911 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,680 Speaker 3: after allegedly performing a series of sex acts in front 1912 01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,160 Speaker 3: of several hundred visitors at a Pennsylvania public park Thursday evening. 1913 01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:24,000 Speaker 3: Jacqueline Gets thirty one and Kyle McClure, twenty nine, were 1914 01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:27,439 Speaker 3: arrested and charged with indecent exposure, this early conduct, and 1915 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:31,960 Speaker 3: open lowdness the chargers uh. The charges came after Wilkes 1916 01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:35,040 Speaker 3: Barre police officers were dispatched the Kirby Park around seven 1917 01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:35,840 Speaker 3: forty five pm. 1918 01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:37,439 Speaker 2: Ooh, it's still light out. 1919 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,760 Speaker 3: What they received several complaints about the couple engaged in 1920 01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:43,400 Speaker 3: sex acts in the softball field. 1921 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,920 Speaker 2: Several were all filming. 1922 01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:48,640 Speaker 1: A point right was bang Bros Up. 1923 01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:50,920 Speaker 3: When officers a ride on the scene, they found guests 1924 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,480 Speaker 3: performer or sex on McClure, according to the police report. Subsequently, 1925 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,000 Speaker 3: several witnesses approached officers to report the guests McLure were 1926 01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,920 Speaker 3: having sexual intercourse all and digital sex in public. 1927 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:00,920 Speaker 2: Oh y'all so free? 1928 01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:01,719 Speaker 1: What's digital? 1929 01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:04,040 Speaker 2: Throwing them fingers up in the box? 1930 01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:09,519 Speaker 3: Oh okay, m h A couple of digits taking her 1931 01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:14,240 Speaker 3: to the digital underground. Several hundred people were president in 1932 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 3: the park and observed the luves for antics owned the couple. 1933 01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,599 Speaker 3: The witnesses also included children since the acts were being 1934 01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:24,200 Speaker 3: performed in close proximity to a playground. Officers were provided 1935 01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:27,840 Speaker 3: evidenced by some parkgoers that included both photos and videos 1936 01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:32,760 Speaker 3: of the couple clearly engaging in sexual behavior, offending many individuals. 1937 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,799 Speaker 3: President in the park Gads, who lives in the neighboring 1938 01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,880 Speaker 3: city of Edwardsville, and McClure, a resident of wills Bar, 1939 01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:40,719 Speaker 3: are scheduled to appear in court July sixth. 1940 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,280 Speaker 2: Guess the race white. Karen's going white for Kyle McClure. 1941 01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:49,400 Speaker 2: Let's check the chat room. See what you guys believe. Pennsylvania, 1942 01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:50,040 Speaker 2: not Philly. 1943 01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:56,040 Speaker 3: White, shake's spear in the park white black, oscar so white, 1944 01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:01,639 Speaker 3: bush gardens white white. Uh, it looks like everybody went white. 1945 01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:05,639 Speaker 3: Ex up, Natty Savannah weird Twitter crosses over. Wasn't there 1946 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,160 Speaker 3: a thing on the timeline about how Coyle's weren't shipped recently? 1947 01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's not really. I guess it's the race though, 1948 01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,679 Speaker 2: any rate white. 1949 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:20,080 Speaker 3: Okay, the correct answer is, Karen, you are now two 1950 01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:21,360 Speaker 3: for three because you missed it. 1951 01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:26,920 Speaker 2: He is black, and. 1952 01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,479 Speaker 3: Of course, uh one person got it right. You get 1953 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:47,200 Speaker 3: the golf clap for that one. Yep, that's Kyle right there, 1954 01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:51,160 Speaker 3: the black dude out here getting this dick suck by 1955 01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:57,719 Speaker 3: the by the softball bleachers, trying to get on her mound. 1956 01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,760 Speaker 3: Hit that nappy dugout if you will. Oh lord, I 1957 01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,200 Speaker 3: think he got to all the bases, if you know 1958 01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,600 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Guys, you know what I'm saying. I 1959 01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:16,840 Speaker 3: had to give her that back was almost perfect. All right, Let's, uh, 1960 01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,400 Speaker 3: you know, do something a little bit different today. I'm 1961 01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,600 Speaker 3: gonna do something a little bit different. Let's do this 1962 01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:25,400 Speaker 3: before we get out of here, and they will do so. 1963 01:38:25,600 --> 01:39:11,360 Speaker 5: Ratchets, there is something. 1964 01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:20,880 Speaker 2: I wanna ask you. There's something that I won't to 1965 01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:31,880 Speaker 2: know if to this question you have the answer, So 1966 01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:40,840 Speaker 2: tell me what I want to know. Do you wanna fault? 1967 01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:45,280 Speaker 2: Do you wanna faul? Won't you tell me now? Won't 1968 01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:48,680 Speaker 2: you tell me now? If you wanta faunt, let me 1969 01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:54,240 Speaker 2: show you how Do you wanna fall with me? Do 1970 01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:58,559 Speaker 2: you wanna fall with me? Hey? 1971 01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,280 Speaker 3: All right, now it's getting to the horrible news about 1972 01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:08,439 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, guys, the news is horrible, but I feel 1973 01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:09,920 Speaker 3: we have a duty to cover it when we need 1974 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,360 Speaker 3: to talk about what LGBTQ people are going through and 1975 01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,839 Speaker 3: uh in the world and keep eye on it because 1976 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,000 Speaker 3: I feel like how we treat the most marginalized people 1977 01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:23,519 Speaker 3: in the community is how uh That's how the world 1978 01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:29,360 Speaker 3: really is, your sir, sus Ormond blames victims of anti 1979 01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:34,400 Speaker 3: great gay discrimination. Now she's and she's like a we 1980 01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,080 Speaker 3: call those people like a financial girl or something like 1981 01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,400 Speaker 3: she talks about money or some shit. Susie Ormond. 1982 01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,760 Speaker 1: Oh, you're talking about the Yeah, the white lady. They 1983 01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:42,320 Speaker 1: always be. 1984 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,240 Speaker 4: I mean for years she been talking about how to 1985 01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,040 Speaker 4: get your finances together. That the white lady with with. 1986 01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,880 Speaker 2: The haircut she do got the fifty three, she got 1987 01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:56,479 Speaker 2: the fifty has always been cut like that for years, decades. Well. 1988 01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:00,760 Speaker 3: In an interview with USA Today, the lesion lesbian TV 1989 01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:04,840 Speaker 3: personality Susan Susie Orman said that LGBT. 1990 01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,479 Speaker 2: People who are proud don't get discriminated against. 1991 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:09,320 Speaker 1: M hm. 1992 01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:14,480 Speaker 2: Uh hmmm. 1993 01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:21,800 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, one hundred, says the white woman. 1994 01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:26,080 Speaker 2: You just gotta be proud. That's the that's the key care. 1995 01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:29,360 Speaker 2: If you're proud, you don't have to worry about it. 1996 01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:43,720 Speaker 3: No, that sound like to me? What that sounded like 1997 01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:48,160 Speaker 3: the gay version of being a con Well, it didn't 1998 01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,320 Speaker 3: happen to me. The rest of y'all gave people. Need 1999 01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:53,719 Speaker 3: to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Tough enough, life 2000 01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,519 Speaker 3: can't stop you from Okay, Yeah, well they killing people. 2001 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:56,759 Speaker 2: In the streets. 2002 01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,479 Speaker 3: Yeah well I didn't get hate crime because I was 2003 01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,120 Speaker 3: so proud. It's really your fault if you think about. 2004 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:05,840 Speaker 4: It, right, And just like any other struggle, white people 2005 01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:07,600 Speaker 4: can always opt into whiteness. 2006 01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,080 Speaker 3: Step up for what you want on the power to 2007 01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,439 Speaker 3: control your destiny. That is the key, because I was 2008 01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,480 Speaker 3: proud of who I am. I was never discriminated against. 2009 01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:16,000 Speaker 2: Because I was gay. 2010 01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:18,360 Speaker 3: The less self worth you have, the less networth you 2011 01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:22,280 Speaker 3: have power traise money powerless repels it, ay Man, So do. 2012 01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:24,680 Speaker 1: You believe in sexism? To them, sexist ain't real. 2013 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:27,519 Speaker 3: You know, she might be like Stacy Dash. Stacy Dash 2014 01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:31,640 Speaker 3: don't believe in sexism. I'm asking her jobless ass, well 2015 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:32,559 Speaker 3: her jobless ass. 2016 01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:38,080 Speaker 4: I'm just no, I'm asking her. You know, your gainers 2017 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,280 Speaker 4: don't matter, but your sexuality back. 2018 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's terrible. 2019 01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:48,040 Speaker 1: Sex you out there. 2020 01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,200 Speaker 4: I mean like when people look at you, they see 2021 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:52,880 Speaker 4: a straight woman even though you're not straight. 2022 01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:56,639 Speaker 3: Here's what, Yeah, you're right because you're you know, your 2023 01:42:56,720 --> 01:43:00,439 Speaker 3: your sister gender. You can people assume I didn't know 2024 01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,040 Speaker 3: she was gay until now either either. 2025 01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:04,719 Speaker 2: So for all that, I'm out and I'm proud. 2026 01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,160 Speaker 3: Shit, it's not like every episode she starts with well 2027 01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:10,320 Speaker 3: as a lesbian, there's gotta be tons of people that 2028 01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:14,560 Speaker 3: support her or listen to her financial grul shit, and 2029 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:16,559 Speaker 3: they just don't even know cause it's like it it's 2030 01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:19,559 Speaker 3: not relevant to what you do necessarily as a job. 2031 01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,960 Speaker 3: So if you're not actively talking about it every day. 2032 01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:24,160 Speaker 3: There's probably a turn of people that are just like, Yeah, 2033 01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:25,840 Speaker 3: I didn't even know that about her, so why would 2034 01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,360 Speaker 3: I care. The other thing is I understand her financial 2035 01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:30,360 Speaker 3: advice even has like a certain amount of privilege, Like 2036 01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:31,880 Speaker 3: I don't even really fuck with it cause her shit 2037 01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,880 Speaker 3: be like, if you're saving extra five hundred dollars a week, 2038 01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:37,960 Speaker 3: at the end of the year, you'll have thirty thousand dollars. 2039 01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:40,479 Speaker 1: I'm like, bitch, who got that type of money? Right? 2040 01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:43,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, what, wait, wait, what? What? What is happening? 2041 01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,160 Speaker 1: I've always thought that where. 2042 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:46,800 Speaker 2: Am I living in the shack in the woods? Where 2043 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:48,920 Speaker 2: am I living? Do I have running water? 2044 01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:53,080 Speaker 3: Because this ain't just cutting the cord that you're talking about. 2045 01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,800 Speaker 3: This is like, so I gotta go live in a 2046 01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:57,960 Speaker 3: house store? Is that how I'm gonna save this money? 2047 01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:01,720 Speaker 3: Because you sound like you're like you're coming from a 2048 01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,240 Speaker 3: place where you just happened to have this extra money laying. 2049 01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:09,000 Speaker 1: Around, right, and a lot of times for years. Excuse me, 2050 01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:11,920 Speaker 1: because she's very famous. 2051 01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:16,559 Speaker 4: She's TV show, radio shows, books like the people were 2052 01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,040 Speaker 4: calling like they used to do Doctor Laurel and all 2053 01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:19,920 Speaker 4: that type of stuff. 2054 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:21,439 Speaker 1: I'm dating my stuff when I say that. 2055 01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,160 Speaker 4: But it's one of those things where when she said this, 2056 01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:26,760 Speaker 4: you know, people say, she said, shit like save eight 2057 01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:27,599 Speaker 4: months salary. 2058 01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:30,880 Speaker 1: Well, the average person can't save eight months salary. 2059 01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:33,080 Speaker 2: They can't save two week salary. 2060 01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:34,439 Speaker 1: Come on, uh. 2061 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:38,120 Speaker 2: You know the other thing that was kind of that 2062 01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:39,760 Speaker 2: was shady about it too with her. 2063 01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,160 Speaker 3: Somebody pointed out in the chat she's she got used 2064 01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,200 Speaker 3: to get on the circuit for church tours and shit, 2065 01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:47,719 Speaker 3: churches used to have her talk to their congregation. 2066 01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:49,040 Speaker 2: Shit, was she out and proud? 2067 01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:49,240 Speaker 1: Then? 2068 01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:52,240 Speaker 3: What did they know was some churches allowing that because 2069 01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,880 Speaker 3: I guarantee you, if you were out and proud at 2070 01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:57,960 Speaker 3: that time, you do an experience some discrimination because some 2071 01:44:58,080 --> 01:44:59,479 Speaker 3: of them churches have been like, we don't want your 2072 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,040 Speaker 3: gay ass talking about commodation. 2073 01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,599 Speaker 2: I guarantee some of them would. All churches ain't open 2074 01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:05,200 Speaker 2: minded like that. 2075 01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:08,280 Speaker 4: Right, So she quote unquote might have been open about it, 2076 01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:11,599 Speaker 4: but she literally because like, this is the first time 2077 01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:14,160 Speaker 4: I'll say, y'all that I've heard that she's gay, so 2078 01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,400 Speaker 4: that I've seen this one around for decades. So that 2079 01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:19,439 Speaker 4: goes to show you that this she might be quote 2080 01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,480 Speaker 4: unquote opening with it, but she's not opening her platforms. 2081 01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:24,280 Speaker 1: You know, she don't come out, but like I am 2082 01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,080 Speaker 1: the gay person that like, like that ain't her stick 2083 01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:27,519 Speaker 1: She not. 2084 01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,160 Speaker 3: Like Ellen right with everybody, Like maybe they know now, 2085 01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:41,400 Speaker 3: but you know, anyway, gay and transgender people face housing discrimination. 2086 01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:43,560 Speaker 2: More than lesbian's. 2087 01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:43,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 2088 01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:49,120 Speaker 2: Study finds uh because like you said, even in the community, 2089 01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:51,800 Speaker 2: the l g b T e Q community, that's different 2090 01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:56,600 Speaker 2: associations and different types of description that people experience. And 2091 01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:57,679 Speaker 2: even when they come. 2092 01:45:57,640 --> 01:45:59,880 Speaker 1: To I said, even within the group of self. 2093 01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:02,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, but even when it comes to the images people promote, 2094 01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:05,280 Speaker 3: like I always noticed and I think most people probably 2095 01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:09,000 Speaker 3: y'all might notice this now. But and it's not as 2096 01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:12,000 Speaker 3: bad as it was a few years ago. But whenever 2097 01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:17,600 Speaker 3: someone wanted to promote a pro lgbt Q event or 2098 01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,680 Speaker 3: they wanted to promote like marriage quality or something, they 2099 01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:24,960 Speaker 3: would always have two women kissing or two women married 2100 01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:26,240 Speaker 3: and standing at the altar. 2101 01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:29,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, normally it would be two white women. 2102 01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:31,600 Speaker 3: Maybe you get a white and a black woman, but 2103 01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:33,519 Speaker 3: it was always two It was for the most part, 2104 01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,880 Speaker 3: it was two women. You know, if it was two men, 2105 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:40,519 Speaker 3: two white men, normally, you know, like it's still all 2106 01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:46,400 Speaker 3: sorts of complicated intersections within that within the community already. 2107 01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:51,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, I would think that you would have less 2108 01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:57,840 Speaker 3: discrimination maybe amongst two women looking for housing or two people, Yeah, 2109 01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,960 Speaker 3: two lesbians looking for housing, because a lot of people, 2110 01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:07,800 Speaker 3: even if they're homophobic, there's varying degrees of homophobia. Two 2111 01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,599 Speaker 3: men kissing at the draft for the NFL, motherfucker's lost. 2112 01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,160 Speaker 2: They got their mind in w NBA draft. 2113 01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:17,519 Speaker 3: Motherfucking two women can make out and they just be like, well, yeah, 2114 01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,400 Speaker 3: a lot of those women are Lesbian's what's the problem? 2115 01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:22,640 Speaker 3: Like people are expect I think a lot of it's 2116 01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:26,320 Speaker 3: rooted in the male fantasy of two women being together. 2117 01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:29,880 Speaker 2: It's not like that's a fantasy, rather than the fact 2118 01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:34,439 Speaker 2: that these are two people who who are right, who 2119 01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,599 Speaker 2: are not just there to serve your penal needs. 2120 01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,840 Speaker 4: Like at end of the day, that's what it's all about, right, 2121 01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,720 Speaker 4: being gay, serve your penis needs? 2122 01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:45,320 Speaker 3: Right, So they so you let it quote unquote slide 2123 01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,080 Speaker 3: when it's when it's two women. But if that was 2124 01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:49,560 Speaker 3: two men, all of a sudden, we gotta have a 2125 01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,880 Speaker 3: conversation about sports and culture and shit. 2126 01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:54,600 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, are we. 2127 01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,400 Speaker 3: Really ready for two men to be kissing. I don't 2128 01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,120 Speaker 3: know they be kissing on w NBA A all the 2129 01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:02,800 Speaker 3: time and don't see bother anybody. It seems like gay 2130 01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,000 Speaker 3: isn't the problems. It seems like it's something with you 2131 01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:09,719 Speaker 3: right anyway, I can understand how that impetus would slide 2132 01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:14,800 Speaker 3: right on end to housing discrimination. You know, like we 2133 01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:16,879 Speaker 3: know that a lot of people that are trans already 2134 01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:21,240 Speaker 3: are like housing and solving and shit, and people are homeless, 2135 01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:24,839 Speaker 3: people are on the streets, people are living with relatives 2136 01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:27,760 Speaker 3: and shit that are like abusive, Like we already know 2137 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,759 Speaker 3: that that existence is fraught with danger. 2138 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,880 Speaker 2: Then let's say you do have the money or the 2139 01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,240 Speaker 2: ability if you can find a job and shit to go, 2140 01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:38,439 Speaker 2: try to look for apartment. You walk in. 2141 01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,760 Speaker 3: And this person has any inclination that you're a trans person. 2142 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:44,880 Speaker 3: Now you gotta worry about what if they just don't 2143 01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,719 Speaker 3: want to give me. I have everything and everything's fine. 2144 01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:49,920 Speaker 3: They just go, I don't want to rent to a 2145 01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,439 Speaker 3: trans person. You'll never know, just like I'll never know 2146 01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:54,519 Speaker 3: if they say we don't want to rent to a 2147 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,160 Speaker 3: black person. I'll never know that It was just that simple, 2148 01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,040 Speaker 3: but I always feel it. 2149 01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:01,640 Speaker 2: And after that, the fifth or sixth time that I'm 2150 01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:03,960 Speaker 2: getting turned down, I'm like, but what the fuck is it? 2151 01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:05,600 Speaker 2: What else could it be? 2152 01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:09,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, particularly if you're not doing an apartment with like 2153 01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,479 Speaker 1: a chain apartment complex, even they'll turn you down. But 2154 01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,840 Speaker 1: particularly for a lot of people in the larger cities, 2155 01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:15,520 Speaker 1: you actually. 2156 01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:18,920 Speaker 4: Deal with individual renters, like people that make the choices 2157 01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:22,000 Speaker 4: on their own accord. Yeah, but even these rules that 2158 01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:26,240 Speaker 4: they have for these apartments and shit, these complexes, we 2159 01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:28,559 Speaker 4: find out that people discriminate all the time. 2160 01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,839 Speaker 2: Sir. You know, everybody had the resources to sue the motherfuckering. 2161 01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:34,920 Speaker 2: You don't know the numbers. You hope that they follow 2162 01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:36,120 Speaker 2: the rules and whatever. 2163 01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:42,040 Speaker 3: But sometimes racism, homophobia, bigotry, transphobia, motherfuckers. 2164 01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:42,439 Speaker 2: Will take that. Fine. 2165 01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:44,679 Speaker 3: They like, I guess we just lost five hundred thousand 2166 01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:46,559 Speaker 3: dollars because I ain't letting no gay people stay here. 2167 01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,920 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. Finding findings of the study of. 2168 01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:51,760 Speaker 3: Release thirds, they indicate that in the early stages of 2169 01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:55,080 Speaker 3: the rental process, housing providers discriminate against gay men and 2170 01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:58,479 Speaker 3: transgender people are on some treatment measures, but treat lesbians 2171 01:49:58,520 --> 01:49:59,479 Speaker 3: and heterosexual women. 2172 01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:01,919 Speaker 2: Uh, they treat them comparably. 2173 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:05,880 Speaker 3: The study was conducted by the Urban Institute of Social 2174 01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,560 Speaker 3: Economic Research policy organization based in Washington, d C. 2175 01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:09,960 Speaker 2: The data was collected from the. 2176 01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:13,320 Speaker 3: Dallas Fort Worth area in Texas, Los Angeles, and Washington, 2177 01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:13,640 Speaker 3: d C. 2178 01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,080 Speaker 2: Use the paired testing message MESSAG method. 2179 01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:20,639 Speaker 4: And that makes complete sense because a lot of times, 2180 01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:25,679 Speaker 4: unless you tell them, they assume that you are straight women, 2181 01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:28,240 Speaker 4: Like unless you come out and be like, we married, 2182 01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:31,439 Speaker 4: or you come out and say we're in a function relationship. 2183 01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:34,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, rommate. 2184 01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:34,679 Speaker 1: Sisters or whatever. 2185 01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:40,639 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna say if too, I'm 2186 01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:41,519 Speaker 3: gonna say we can't. 2187 01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,400 Speaker 2: We can't. We can't safely say that, okay, because like 2188 01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:44,800 Speaker 2: we don't. 2189 01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,000 Speaker 3: Maybe they were told to hold hands, maybe they were 2190 01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:51,160 Speaker 3: told to like to tell them we are married or 2191 01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,639 Speaker 3: we're a couple, okay, because I mean, how else would 2192 01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:57,400 Speaker 3: the test work if they weren't informing. Even if they 2193 01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:00,439 Speaker 3: weren't informing it, people might just have quote unquote and 2194 01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:04,120 Speaker 3: be like, I think those two women are gay like that, 2195 01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,800 Speaker 3: and then but and then of course what you said 2196 01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:10,200 Speaker 3: as well, I'm not saying it's not me saying you wrong. 2197 01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:14,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying people literally just don't feel as quote unquote 2198 01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:17,800 Speaker 3: threatened by two women, So they might just be like, yeah, 2199 01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,800 Speaker 3: they they obviously are a couple, but it's two women. 2200 01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna rent to them, Like what's the harm in that? 2201 01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:24,439 Speaker 2: You know? 2202 01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,800 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, when people look at male especially male gay men, 2203 01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:32,320 Speaker 3: you know how many people run to the uh, they 2204 01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:36,439 Speaker 3: gonna be pedophiles, They're gonna they sexual perverts, They this, 2205 01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:39,040 Speaker 3: that and the other. You know, not that they don't 2206 01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:40,639 Speaker 3: do it at all with gay women, but they run 2207 01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,800 Speaker 3: to that ship for gay men all the time, like, oh. 2208 01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,120 Speaker 2: Sexual predator, what do you Why are you looking at 2209 01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:46,880 Speaker 2: me in the locker room? 2210 01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:47,120 Speaker 3: Man? 2211 01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:48,240 Speaker 2: What you're gonna do to me? 2212 01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:51,840 Speaker 3: Like that kind of ship, as if somebody wants you 2213 01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:57,040 Speaker 3: your ugly not wiping ass. But but still the point being, 2214 01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:01,400 Speaker 3: there's a fear when it's two gay men that I 2215 01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,280 Speaker 3: think isn't always there when it's two gay women, and 2216 01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:08,000 Speaker 3: especially in something like this, where it's like, you know, oh, 2217 01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:09,559 Speaker 3: we get the progressive points. 2218 01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:16,000 Speaker 2: Without having it really be progressive. But yeah, it's paired testing. 2219 01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:17,799 Speaker 3: So what they do is they have two testers poses 2220 01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:22,120 Speaker 3: equally qualified home seekers, differing only a specific characteristic. The 2221 01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:24,439 Speaker 3: two people in each pair were the same in terms 2222 01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:28,559 Speaker 3: of gender, race, age, and ethnicity, and they independently contacted 2223 01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,840 Speaker 3: a property manager to look for an apartment. At some 2224 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,120 Speaker 3: point in the initial conversation with the property manager, each 2225 01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,280 Speaker 3: person in the pair mentioned the name of their partner. 2226 01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,240 Speaker 3: One person used a female first name, the other would 2227 01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:41,599 Speaker 3: use a male first name. According to the report by 2228 01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:47,080 Speaker 3: LGBTQ Nation, after conducting two thousand and nine pair tests, 2229 01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:51,479 Speaker 3: the researchers found that housing providers told gay men why. 2230 01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,240 Speaker 2: Is this reloading really article, Let me just go to 2231 01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,320 Speaker 2: the other page. Of course you will do that. 2232 01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:02,160 Speaker 3: They told gay men about one fewer available unit for 2233 01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:04,439 Speaker 3: every four point two tests as compared to what they 2234 01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:07,679 Speaker 3: told hetero sexual men. The report also so they didn't 2235 01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:09,519 Speaker 3: even go as pairs. You just go by yourself and 2236 01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:15,120 Speaker 3: you go, oh, well, Samantha will be thrilled, and they're like, mmmm, Samantha, 2237 01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:18,519 Speaker 3: Oh she must be married to a woman. 2238 01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:22,920 Speaker 2: And then that you know, that informs the study. 2239 01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:26,599 Speaker 3: Okay, but yeah, they were told about one less unit 2240 01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:29,360 Speaker 3: available for every four point two test for men as 2241 01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:31,519 Speaker 3: a compared to hodo sexual men, for gay men compared 2242 01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:34,000 Speaker 3: to heroo sexual men. The report also found housing providers 2243 01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,400 Speaker 3: were slightly less likely to schedule an appointment with gay men. 2244 01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:39,519 Speaker 3: The rent cost quota to gay men was hired by 2245 01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:41,040 Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy two dollars a year. 2246 01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:43,679 Speaker 2: Wow mm hmmmm. 2247 01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:45,599 Speaker 3: I mean, if it's happening in the up we studied 2248 01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,840 Speaker 3: colored covered many things where we're like, that's true that 2249 01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:48,800 Speaker 3: they charge these. 2250 01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:50,360 Speaker 2: People more because they black in this community. 2251 01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:51,000 Speaker 4: M hm. 2252 01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:53,240 Speaker 2: You think it's not a gay tax out here? 2253 01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true too. 2254 01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:58,280 Speaker 3: However, housing providers were about equally likely to schedule an 2255 01:53:58,280 --> 01:54:00,920 Speaker 3: appointment with lesbians and heterosexuals, and then they also showed 2256 01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:04,839 Speaker 3: them exactly approximately the same number of rentals. The information 2257 01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,120 Speaker 3: regarding the rents in the sentence was also found to 2258 01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:10,479 Speaker 3: be similar. The report said that while there were differences 2259 01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:12,960 Speaker 3: found across the treatment measures, they were small and not 2260 01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:14,200 Speaker 3: statistically significant. 2261 01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:17,200 Speaker 2: Here's the thing that bothers me about all this and 2262 01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,040 Speaker 2: the same thing we see these studies for race shit. 2263 01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:25,400 Speaker 2: Who then gets this information because this shit should. 2264 01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:27,720 Speaker 1: Be illegal, and then what do they do with it 2265 01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:28,400 Speaker 1: once they get it. 2266 01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:30,679 Speaker 3: I should not have to pay more for a house 2267 01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:35,160 Speaker 3: because I'm gay or black, or trans or anything. You 2268 01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:38,000 Speaker 3: have a house that you are renting, that is the 2269 01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:40,840 Speaker 3: fucking end of it. If I have my credit is this, 2270 01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:43,560 Speaker 3: and my down payment is that if it's the same 2271 01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:45,240 Speaker 3: across the board as these other applicants. 2272 01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:46,680 Speaker 2: This is why I fucking can't. 2273 01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,840 Speaker 3: Trust shit, man, Like this is one of the reasons 2274 01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, when people are like, you need to get 2275 01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:51,800 Speaker 3: a house, I'm like, I don't know. 2276 01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,280 Speaker 1: Because I don't want to spend no unnecessary extra money. 2277 01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:57,520 Speaker 3: Not just that, but like everyone knows the game is rigging. 2278 01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,920 Speaker 3: Nobody seem to give a fuck. Nothing's happening to these people. 2279 01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:03,880 Speaker 3: You know, I remember that long ass episode we had, well, 2280 01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:05,760 Speaker 3: I talked about how Bernie Sanders could have won the 2281 01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:09,400 Speaker 3: black vote by talking about that racial inequality in the 2282 01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:14,080 Speaker 3: housing discrimination and shit, and how that actually led to 2283 01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:17,480 Speaker 3: Wall Street making all that fucking money. And it's like 2284 01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,680 Speaker 3: I was just speaking to nobody because he still hasn't 2285 01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:22,440 Speaker 3: made that case. He could be making that case right now. 2286 01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:25,160 Speaker 3: It's not too late. You want black people to vote 2287 01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,320 Speaker 3: for you, dog, you could have made that case. Everybody 2288 01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,280 Speaker 3: should be making that case voter suppression and this shit. 2289 01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,040 Speaker 2: Like then you got everybody together. 2290 01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:36,000 Speaker 3: Hey, Wall Street is fucking up, and they took advantage 2291 01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:39,360 Speaker 3: of black people to do that with the housing bubble shit, 2292 01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,040 Speaker 3: and instead we got nothing anyway. 2293 01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:48,240 Speaker 2: This is fucking infuriating. Sorry even Yeah, but I'm glad 2294 01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:52,760 Speaker 2: people know. But yeah, if you're if you're LGBTQ, especially 2295 01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,000 Speaker 2: if you're a G or T, sounds like you're getting 2296 01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:59,040 Speaker 2: a raw deal when it comes to housing discrimination. 2297 01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:01,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 2298 01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:05,280 Speaker 3: Anti transactivist Bethany Cosma is appointed to the Office of 2299 01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:09,560 Speaker 3: Gender Equality and Women's Empowerment by Donald Trump. 2300 01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll read it again. You didn't hear me wrong. 2301 01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:19,600 Speaker 3: Anti transactivist Bethany Cosma pointed to the Officer of Gender 2302 01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:24,920 Speaker 3: Equality and Women's Empowerment. Yeah, this is one of the 2303 01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:28,200 Speaker 3: reasons that you don't and you won't ever catch me 2304 01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:32,080 Speaker 3: saying shit like those parties are the same. It's no difference. 2305 01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:37,720 Speaker 3: One is bad, one is worse, and it does matter. 2306 01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,320 Speaker 3: I would still rather have an. 2307 01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:45,240 Speaker 2: Advocate for LGBTQ people in the White House. I still 2308 01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:46,440 Speaker 2: would rather have an advocate. 2309 01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:50,400 Speaker 4: And the thing is, if they are the same, why 2310 01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:54,680 Speaker 4: is this the first president since Clinton to u. 2311 01:56:55,360 --> 01:57:00,400 Speaker 3: Not celebrate lgbt Q, gay prid or whatever. They didn't 2312 01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:03,160 Speaker 3: even celebrate Pride Month. Well, i'd say gay pri Pride month. 2313 01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:04,840 Speaker 3: He didn't even acknowledge it. 2314 01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:06,800 Speaker 1: The same thing. 2315 01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:10,400 Speaker 4: I think it was a rabbi, Well it was another 2316 01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:13,720 Speaker 4: like Muslim kind of holiday mixed in there too that 2317 01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:14,560 Speaker 4: he was like, fuck. 2318 01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:18,680 Speaker 3: It, ramadd I think, yeah, yeah, it's unconscionable. It's unconscionable. 2319 01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:19,480 Speaker 2: What is happening? 2320 01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:23,400 Speaker 3: And I did care, and I do care, and I don't. 2321 01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:25,920 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let that go. I'm not just gonna 2322 01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,720 Speaker 3: be so stuck on my principles. I'm like, chaos, Maybe 2323 01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,520 Speaker 3: something good happened. If you destroyed the country, country moving 2324 01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,280 Speaker 3: to the rights so hard the country's moving we have. 2325 01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:39,240 Speaker 3: It has effectively been made that the next candidate who 2326 01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:42,360 Speaker 3: runs against Trump could literally be a Republican. 2327 01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:43,880 Speaker 2: That's how fucked up this is. 2328 01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:48,720 Speaker 3: Mitt Romney will be considered a fucking liberal compared to 2329 01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:53,600 Speaker 3: this piece of shit that the fuck have people have 2330 01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:57,400 Speaker 3: done it this country? Man, it's even worse than uh, 2331 01:57:58,080 --> 01:57:59,000 Speaker 3: it's even worse than. 2332 01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:00,960 Speaker 2: I thought it would be, and I thought it would 2333 01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:01,400 Speaker 2: be horrible. 2334 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,280 Speaker 3: But it's even it's not even that, it's not even 2335 01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:07,240 Speaker 3: that it's worth it's just even knowing this shit is coming. 2336 01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:09,560 Speaker 2: I can't pretend to not be bothered or to be like, well, 2337 01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:10,320 Speaker 2: this is good. 2338 01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:13,800 Speaker 3: Chaos, anarchy, burn it down. We gonna this how we 2339 01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:15,920 Speaker 3: get a new system. I don't think this is how 2340 01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:16,880 Speaker 3: we get any of this shit. 2341 01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:18,520 Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. 2342 01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:20,320 Speaker 3: We do get something new out of this, but I 2343 01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:23,520 Speaker 3: don't see it. Half this country, if not more, is 2344 01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:26,280 Speaker 3: just straight up biggots man. They don't give a fuck 2345 01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:27,240 Speaker 3: about any of this shit. 2346 01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:28,600 Speaker 2: This this ship. 2347 01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,320 Speaker 3: They talk about impeaching him for these Russian ship that 2348 01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:34,360 Speaker 3: you should be able to be impeached for something stupid 2349 01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:37,520 Speaker 3: like this. Oh, let me just get somebody that hates 2350 01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,960 Speaker 3: trans people and we'll just put them in the Office 2351 01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:43,240 Speaker 3: of Gender Equality in Women's women's Empowerment. 2352 01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:47,680 Speaker 2: What how is that? Okay? 2353 01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2354 01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:54,680 Speaker 4: And also talking about his staff and the people that 2355 01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:57,520 Speaker 4: have a lot of these physicians are some of the 2356 01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:04,400 Speaker 4: most unqualified, underqualified people in fucking history for these goddamn jobs. 2357 01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:05,960 Speaker 1: They should not have these fucking jobs. 2358 01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:10,680 Speaker 3: Secretary of Education is against education. The Secretary of Energy 2359 01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:13,280 Speaker 3: is against didn't even know the fucking wanted to get 2360 01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:16,320 Speaker 3: rid of the Energy Department in two thousand and eight. 2361 01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,320 Speaker 3: What now you have a gender quality and Women's empowerment 2362 01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:24,960 Speaker 3: person that is anti trans order Essay at twenty sixteen, 2363 01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:28,360 Speaker 3: responding to former presidents Obama expansion of the Title nine 2364 01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:31,240 Speaker 3: a law wish for bids gender discrimination and education to 2365 01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:33,480 Speaker 3: include transgender non boundary individuals. 2366 01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:35,520 Speaker 2: To put it simply, a boy claiming. 2367 01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:38,240 Speaker 3: Gender confusion must now be allowed in the same shower, bathroom, 2368 01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:41,360 Speaker 3: or locker room with my daughter under the President's transgender policy. 2369 01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:44,680 Speaker 3: She wrote, what I learned that President, What I learned 2370 01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:48,160 Speaker 3: that predators could abuse these new policies to hurt children 2371 01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:51,200 Speaker 3: in school lack of shelter's, pool showers, or other vulnerable 2372 01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:54,400 Speaker 3: public places like remote bathrooms and national parks. I realized 2373 01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:57,680 Speaker 3: I had to do something. She continued, equating transgender people 2374 01:59:57,720 --> 02:00:01,800 Speaker 3: with sexual predators. By the way, guys, so those laws 2375 02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:05,600 Speaker 3: went into effect, have we even had a single incident 2376 02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:08,240 Speaker 3: of a transgender person attacking some straight person? 2377 02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Like even one like a straight person attacking them? Right? 2378 02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:13,840 Speaker 2: But have we even had one? 2379 02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Y'all? 2380 02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:17,560 Speaker 2: All this it was gonna be Ali Ali for y'allwn 2381 02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:20,560 Speaker 2: rape city out here, and transgender people was gonna be 2382 02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:24,280 Speaker 2: the ones. Uh, they was gonna be looking for it. 2383 02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:29,040 Speaker 2: What happened, y'all? Nothing? Nothing. 2384 02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:32,040 Speaker 3: You demonize and you vilify people and you don't even 2385 02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:35,000 Speaker 3: have fucking facts to back it up, not to mention it. 2386 02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:37,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a factor. Is literally the opposite of 2387 02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:37,920 Speaker 2: what happens. 2388 02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:41,480 Speaker 3: When it comes to transgender people are attacked by straight people, 2389 02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:46,040 Speaker 3: by suysgender people all the time. Then and then law, 2390 02:00:46,640 --> 02:00:50,000 Speaker 3: you have a president that does pass these laws and 2391 02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:53,680 Speaker 3: literally nothing bad happened, and they still want to repeal 2392 02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:57,560 Speaker 3: the laws, and they put the stump. I'm convinced this 2393 02:00:57,720 --> 02:00:59,960 Speaker 3: is just about making sure that this black person's name 2394 02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:03,040 Speaker 3: gets taken off of this shit right, because there's no reason. 2395 02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:05,520 Speaker 3: This is not even something he campaigned on or cared about. 2396 02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:08,800 Speaker 3: This is simply like, well, Obama wanted it, how do 2397 02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:13,360 Speaker 3: we take it back? With that, she launched a campaign 2398 02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:15,520 Speaker 3: called United We Stay In to combat Obama era of 2399 02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:17,720 Speaker 3: laws allowed for inclusion of trans individuals. 2400 02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:20,560 Speaker 2: The announcement of her appointment comes just days. 2401 02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:23,680 Speaker 3: After Tourney General's Jeff Session vowed to protect transgender individuals 2402 02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:28,680 Speaker 3: from hate crimes. I know everybody just made the same 2403 02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:32,280 Speaker 3: fucking face. Yeah, word, just as you go, that's what 2404 02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:35,880 Speaker 3: you're really gonna do that? Dog mm hmm okay, dog, 2405 02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:41,400 Speaker 3: Well I'll believe it when I see it. Bro, you 2406 02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:43,240 Speaker 3: might want to reach out to your boy Trump because 2407 02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:47,360 Speaker 3: he don't seem to be on the same page as you. 2408 02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:52,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's the message that they want to stand 2409 02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:57,200 Speaker 3: with that appointment. A gay man receives conversation after he 2410 02:01:57,320 --> 02:01:59,960 Speaker 3: was forced to endure gay cure therapy for nineteen days. 2411 02:02:01,200 --> 02:02:03,920 Speaker 2: What I guess the good news is you get conversation. 2412 02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:08,080 Speaker 2: I don't give you the bad news, you get tortured 2413 02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:12,400 Speaker 2: for nineteen days. Right as identity has been kept anonymous. 2414 02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:14,680 Speaker 2: He was forced into the hospital bias family. I think 2415 02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:15,640 Speaker 2: fouled for a divorce. 2416 02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:23,080 Speaker 3: Okay, how's that legal. I'm a grown ass man. I'm 2417 02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:25,800 Speaker 3: growning up to file for divorce. Y'all can just throw 2418 02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:28,120 Speaker 3: me in the hospital and be like, ungave this nigga, please, 2419 02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:31,880 Speaker 3: thank you. He told the court how he was forcibly 2420 02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,920 Speaker 3: given medication, including injections and add to the pressants, and 2421 02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:37,440 Speaker 3: what he believed was an attempt to suppress his sexuality. 2422 02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:39,200 Speaker 3: Thirty seven year old was held in the hospital in 2423 02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:43,040 Speaker 3: Central China, heaning providence against his will. The court found 2424 02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:45,720 Speaker 3: that when the man was hospitalized, he was not suicide 2425 02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:48,960 Speaker 3: or violent. The only behavior that the only behavior that 2426 02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:52,880 Speaker 3: does constitute being held and he sought conversation. Conversation of 2427 02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:56,720 Speaker 3: seven hundred and thirty seven dollars. The hospital has been 2428 02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:59,080 Speaker 3: ordered to publish an apology in the local paper. The 2429 02:02:59,160 --> 02:03:01,520 Speaker 3: decision comes to you years after the incident, which occurred 2430 02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:05,920 Speaker 3: in October twenty fifteen, two years damn both right for 2431 02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:08,560 Speaker 3: seven hundred and thirty seven dollars. Both the man and 2432 02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:11,760 Speaker 3: his lawyers believe the win is an important landmark for 2433 02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:17,440 Speaker 3: LGBT equality. That's sad. That that's sad that it's true 2434 02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:21,960 Speaker 3: that this is Hey guys, we won one. Yeah, well 2435 02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:22,400 Speaker 3: what happened? 2436 02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:26,280 Speaker 2: Did you stop people from going in? No? No, not exactly. 2437 02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:27,600 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I. 2438 02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Mean they get they paying like seven fifty you know, 2439 02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:34,080 Speaker 2: if any for nineteen. 2440 02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:37,840 Speaker 3: Days of your life being forced to take medicine and 2441 02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:41,480 Speaker 3: not even pay for some people right right. I don't 2442 02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:44,280 Speaker 3: know what how what the exchange rate is for all 2443 02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:47,040 Speaker 3: that shit, So I'm not gonna speak on it, but 2444 02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:49,880 Speaker 3: I just know that for nineteen days of my life, 2445 02:03:50,520 --> 02:03:51,160 Speaker 3: that ain't shit. 2446 02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:54,960 Speaker 2: Come on, we are are bad. 2447 02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:57,600 Speaker 3: They're gonna put two years later in the paper whoops, 2448 02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:04,400 Speaker 3: I fought. Facebook is currently banning lesbians for using the 2449 02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:16,120 Speaker 3: D word, which this is like the black ship, I say, 2450 02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:19,680 Speaker 3: I say, being cautious of coon, I get banned from 2451 02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:20,240 Speaker 3: saying coon. 2452 02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:23,680 Speaker 1: But you can get coon all up and down and 2453 02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:25,720 Speaker 1: through your post though I. 2454 02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:27,320 Speaker 2: Don't know if I can or not. But I'm just 2455 02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:30,600 Speaker 2: saying I get banned because I get reported, and I'm 2456 02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:33,760 Speaker 2: that's a derogatory thing. I can't say that even though 2457 02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:34,200 Speaker 2: I'm black. 2458 02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:37,400 Speaker 3: So apparently they decide that lesbians can't say dyke even 2459 02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:38,240 Speaker 3: though they lesbians. 2460 02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:40,840 Speaker 2: It's their word. Why they can't say. 2461 02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:42,600 Speaker 1: Hit? 2462 02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:42,880 Speaker 4: Is that. 2463 02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:45,320 Speaker 2: Facebook? 2464 02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:49,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what Facebook doing, Like real Talk, I 2465 02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:51,800 Speaker 3: don't know what they're doing. They like they they claim 2466 02:04:51,880 --> 02:04:54,440 Speaker 3: to be fixing shit, it just make it worse, Like 2467 02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:58,000 Speaker 3: the these are your fixes, these brid You would think 2468 02:04:58,040 --> 02:04:59,840 Speaker 3: that y'all would be on the forefront of this ship 2469 02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:02,880 Speaker 3: being at your platform is so big and y'all can 2470 02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:06,280 Speaker 3: actually afford to hire people that can look at these situations, 2471 02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:09,520 Speaker 3: and y'all just out there like, nope, get rid of them. 2472 02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:11,960 Speaker 1: But yet the. 2473 02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:16,200 Speaker 4: Person that's over there is supposed to be running. You know, 2474 02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:19,440 Speaker 4: I don't know if you're actually gonna run, but it's campaign. 2475 02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:22,200 Speaker 4: If for running on president, how am I supposed to 2476 02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:25,960 Speaker 4: support somebody that actually has one of the largest organizations 2477 02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:31,960 Speaker 4: in the country, possibly the world, that discriminates against black people, 2478 02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:36,480 Speaker 4: discriminates against socialists. Won't trans people that publicly put their 2479 02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:38,360 Speaker 4: name out in the open. You know, people had to 2480 02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:40,720 Speaker 4: fight for that shit because they would, you know, trans 2481 02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:42,680 Speaker 4: people logging in their account for CERNA, like use your 2482 02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:45,520 Speaker 4: real name, you know, and shit like that, Like, but 2483 02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:47,640 Speaker 4: you're supposed to be running for president and you want 2484 02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:48,600 Speaker 4: my goddamn vote. 2485 02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:53,840 Speaker 2: Chicago priv I mean Chicago Charlotte Pride Parade rejects gays 2486 02:05:53,880 --> 02:06:01,920 Speaker 2: for Trump flow. Uh, yeah, I'm down with that. 2487 02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:02,960 Speaker 1: I agree. 2488 02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:07,080 Speaker 3: Fuck them, get the fuck out, dog you the enemy. Yes, 2489 02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:09,520 Speaker 3: I wish it would be some black ass paray for 2490 02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:12,400 Speaker 3: Black history. Moneys niggas talking about some blacks for Trump? 2491 02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:15,640 Speaker 3: Can we get a float the fuck we can burn? Yeah, 2492 02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:17,760 Speaker 3: go to the front, We're gonna burn yours and then 2493 02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:20,640 Speaker 3: everybody gonna ride behind it, partying fuck out here. 2494 02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:23,960 Speaker 2: Kind of cooling ass, right. 2495 02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:26,480 Speaker 4: Because they got the right day. Whoever organized that looked 2496 02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:28,960 Speaker 4: at that ship it was like fuck no, like. 2497 02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, start your own march with the six of y'all, 2498 02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:32,720 Speaker 3: because ain't nobody want. 2499 02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:35,640 Speaker 4: To hang out with y'all niggas, right right, so we 2500 02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:38,960 Speaker 4: can have you here and fucking have people protesting us 2501 02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:41,480 Speaker 4: because we allowed you, like you said, a sixty yaller 2502 02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:43,080 Speaker 4: ship up all of a sudden, we the problem. 2503 02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:45,560 Speaker 3: No, right, that's the other thing, you know, Black Lives 2504 02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:47,600 Speaker 3: Matter with have shut that ship down. 2505 02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:52,120 Speaker 2: The Black Black LGBT. 2506 02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:54,120 Speaker 3: Float would have been fucking in front of them niggas 2507 02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:56,280 Speaker 3: laying on the sidewalk doing a dyeing. 2508 02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:58,280 Speaker 4: But like, what you ain't gonna do is go through 2509 02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:00,320 Speaker 4: downtown Shotte right now, that's what you about. 2510 02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:02,400 Speaker 1: You ain't david that dead line up right in the 2511 02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:03,080 Speaker 1: middle of the squall. 2512 02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:06,440 Speaker 3: Motherfucker's learning that lesson these days now they seeing it. 2513 02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:10,200 Speaker 3: They're like they out here, like yeah, so they got Toronto, 2514 02:07:10,440 --> 02:07:13,480 Speaker 3: they got DC. Maybe don't have a cock float and 2515 02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:16,200 Speaker 3: maybe don't have a Trump float. Maybe let's just go 2516 02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:17,160 Speaker 3: out without a heitch. 2517 02:07:17,240 --> 02:07:17,520 Speaker 2: Okay. 2518 02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:20,480 Speaker 4: But like this, even if they don't know what understand, 2519 02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:22,840 Speaker 4: they go, oh, that's what you did, and this was 2520 02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:23,480 Speaker 4: the response. 2521 02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't understand, but I know not to do that shit. 2522 02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:29,960 Speaker 1: At least that you're progressing in the right direction. Even 2523 02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:32,360 Speaker 1: if they don't understand why they're making the decision. Who 2524 02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:34,560 Speaker 1: gulse a fuck, you made the right decision. 2525 02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:37,040 Speaker 2: You want to parade to stop on time, don't you right? 2526 02:07:37,120 --> 02:07:38,360 Speaker 2: You want to know that much? 2527 02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:40,240 Speaker 4: And on time you're like, what we ain't gonna do 2528 02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:42,880 Speaker 4: is have a trump float? And what we what we 2529 02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:45,680 Speaker 4: also ain't gonna do is have no cock float. Okay, 2530 02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:47,520 Speaker 4: then the two things everything else is. 2531 02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:48,160 Speaker 1: Cool, right. 2532 02:07:49,080 --> 02:07:50,040 Speaker 2: Brian Towberd to remember. 2533 02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,600 Speaker 3: The LGBT group in Proud Republicans said they playing a 2534 02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:55,760 Speaker 3: float twenty seven feet long, decked out with American flags 2535 02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:58,480 Speaker 3: and a replica of the Statue of Liberty, female impersonators 2536 02:07:58,520 --> 02:08:01,200 Speaker 3: in the most patriotic music anyone's ever heard. But last 2537 02:08:01,240 --> 02:08:03,280 Speaker 3: month I received an email from the parade team saying 2538 02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:05,920 Speaker 3: they were not able to approve the group's application to 2539 02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:07,160 Speaker 3: participate in the August event. 2540 02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:10,000 Speaker 2: It was going to be fun. We want to be energetic. 2541 02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:13,000 Speaker 3: We wanted to show we weren't racist, big as misogynistic. 2542 02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:15,800 Speaker 3: We wanted to show that we are Americans, love our 2543 02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:18,520 Speaker 3: country and our president. We wanted to be there to 2544 02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:21,680 Speaker 3: celebrate gay pride. Everything fell into place except being able 2545 02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:26,200 Speaker 3: to celebrate who I am, nigga, And you know it's 2546 02:08:26,240 --> 02:08:26,800 Speaker 3: a white man. 2547 02:08:27,120 --> 02:08:30,240 Speaker 2: Of course, let me gonna get the fun out of it. 2548 02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:32,560 Speaker 1: Right, and and and and what's so fun? Is that 2549 02:08:32,840 --> 02:08:36,160 Speaker 1: you do this ship and you're bigger than in racist 2550 02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:37,160 Speaker 1: and homophobic. 2551 02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:39,000 Speaker 4: And it doesn't even matter if you're a part of 2552 02:08:39,080 --> 02:08:42,080 Speaker 4: the the group that's being discriminated against you, against the 2553 02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:45,400 Speaker 4: you you doing this, it's against the group that you 2554 02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:48,000 Speaker 4: are of, and it's a problem. 2555 02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:49,360 Speaker 1: It is a problem. 2556 02:08:49,520 --> 02:09:02,400 Speaker 4: And I don't know who running it, but somebody got 2557 02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:06,320 Speaker 4: a hold of somebody, somebody's seen that was like, no, man. 2558 02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:07,680 Speaker 3: If you gonna get the fuck out of here with 2559 02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:10,760 Speaker 3: this bullshit, m I'm the real victim, y'all. 2560 02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:13,200 Speaker 4: And a's white people looking at that shit like, bitch, 2561 02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:15,000 Speaker 4: you get out of here, Like y'all the reason why 2562 02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:16,240 Speaker 4: we going back now. 2563 02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:21,000 Speaker 3: The most anti LGBT possible president and let's ever let 2564 02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:23,680 Speaker 3: me let let's make a float dedicated to this motherfucker, 2565 02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:24,720 Speaker 3: cause I'm proud of him. 2566 02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:27,720 Speaker 2: Go be proud by your mother fucking. 2567 02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:29,400 Speaker 4: Self, right, But you wanna be a part of it, 2568 02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:31,000 Speaker 4: like you say, it's not enough for y'all. 2569 02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:34,960 Speaker 2: Right, you again, that's like having a KKK float. Well, 2570 02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:36,840 Speaker 2: what are you doing? What are you doing? 2571 02:09:38,200 --> 02:09:40,520 Speaker 1: Jesus, I'm glad they rejected it. 2572 02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:44,440 Speaker 3: Good for this and he's suing, of course, raising legal 2573 02:09:44,520 --> 02:09:48,120 Speaker 3: funds for a lawsuit he intends to bring against Charlotte 2574 02:09:48,160 --> 02:09:51,280 Speaker 3: Pride as well as the a Deplorable Pride ball but 2575 02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:55,560 Speaker 3: described as a pride celebration for everyone. Deplorable Pride l Look, 2576 02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:58,160 Speaker 3: the first of all, aplorable dot org is already gone 2577 02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:00,920 Speaker 3: the link to raise the money. I don't know if 2578 02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:02,160 Speaker 3: this is a prank or some shit or what. 2579 02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:05,440 Speaker 2: It's gone. The plural Pride dog. 2580 02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:07,440 Speaker 1: You got to be Kidchen because people was like, bitch, 2581 02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:08,320 Speaker 1: we're not supporting that. 2582 02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:12,360 Speaker 3: Welcome to the website of the poor reply dot org 2583 02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:14,120 Speaker 3: if you are with the press of the media, like 2584 02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:14,960 Speaker 3: the schedule interview. 2585 02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:16,960 Speaker 2: So it just ain't nothing but y'all trying to get 2586 02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:20,320 Speaker 2: some motherfucking plug doll. Your website don't even have nothing 2587 02:10:20,360 --> 02:10:21,839 Speaker 2: but how to get. 2588 02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:27,000 Speaker 3: How to get y'all interview. This is some bullshit new 2589 02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:31,000 Speaker 3: podcast coming soon. This is some troll shit, dog trolling 2590 02:10:31,120 --> 02:10:33,040 Speaker 3: ass hate for motherfuckers. 2591 02:10:33,160 --> 02:10:33,360 Speaker 1: Dog. 2592 02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:36,720 Speaker 3: Oh we the real It's just like Stacy Dash, it's 2593 02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:38,840 Speaker 3: so hard for a conservative black person to. 2594 02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:40,720 Speaker 2: Work in Hollywood. 2595 02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:43,240 Speaker 3: Well, you're not a good actress and the only people 2596 02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:45,000 Speaker 3: that's willing to give you a chance is black people. 2597 02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:46,920 Speaker 2: But you don't do never talk shit about them all day? 2598 02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:50,839 Speaker 2: What did you think was gonna happen? Both right? Stupid? 2599 02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:57,360 Speaker 2: I have I frustrated myself for my own show. That's crazy. LGBTI. 2600 02:10:57,520 --> 02:10:59,840 Speaker 3: People in Vietnam finally have a safe place to go 2601 02:10:59,920 --> 02:11:05,720 Speaker 3: for medical treatment. There go some good news apparently have 2602 02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:07,920 Speaker 3: They will now have a safe place to access to 2603 02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:11,640 Speaker 3: counseling and sexual health information. A new center was opened 2604 02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:13,720 Speaker 3: by the Men's Health Center in conjunction with g Link, 2605 02:11:13,960 --> 02:11:17,320 Speaker 3: a social enterprise which provides healthcare and raises awareness for 2606 02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:20,760 Speaker 3: trans issues. The center is based in the capital, ho 2607 02:11:20,920 --> 02:11:25,000 Speaker 3: Chi Mean City ho Chi Minh City, but anyone in 2608 02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:28,360 Speaker 3: Vietnam can access is counseling services. It's currently i legal 2609 02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:31,440 Speaker 3: to transition in Vietnam, including access to hormones and undergoing 2610 02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:34,480 Speaker 3: gendery assignment surgery. Many people go to other countries, mainly 2611 02:11:34,520 --> 02:11:38,080 Speaker 3: neighboring Thailand to access hormones and surgeries. The government has 2612 02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:40,879 Speaker 3: changed the laws and will allow people to transition within Vietnam, 2613 02:11:41,200 --> 02:11:43,960 Speaker 3: but they are not expected to come into force until 2614 02:11:44,000 --> 02:11:46,560 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. The new center will help with the medical 2615 02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:48,760 Speaker 3: care of people who are taking hormones or have had 2616 02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:52,400 Speaker 3: gendery assignment surgery. Yeah you know another reason I like 2617 02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:54,760 Speaker 3: this right now? I know it's probably fucked up because 2618 02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:56,160 Speaker 3: we don't live there, we don't know how the details. 2619 02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:58,400 Speaker 3: The reason I like this is because, like a lot 2620 02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:01,760 Speaker 3: of shit, it's already happening. Either be in the now 2621 02:12:02,080 --> 02:12:05,560 Speaker 3: that people are transitioning and then just pretend these people 2622 02:12:05,560 --> 02:12:07,800 Speaker 3: don't exist and not treat or help them or care 2623 02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:08,680 Speaker 3: for them, or. 2624 02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:10,280 Speaker 2: You can be like people going through this and they 2625 02:12:10,320 --> 02:12:10,840 Speaker 2: need our help. 2626 02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:15,280 Speaker 3: So whether the motherfuckers agree or not, this is someone's existence. 2627 02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,320 Speaker 3: You don't get to disagree with the fucking fact that 2628 02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:19,120 Speaker 3: someone exists. 2629 02:12:19,480 --> 02:12:22,040 Speaker 2: So let's help these people and part of our society, 2630 02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:25,879 Speaker 2: right like it's the first step to inclusion is admitting 2631 02:12:25,920 --> 02:12:29,560 Speaker 2: that this is already happening, rather than the putting blinders 2632 02:12:29,600 --> 02:12:32,480 Speaker 2: over your eyes and being like, I don't see trans people, 2633 02:12:32,560 --> 02:12:37,400 Speaker 2: so they don't exist. HIV and STI test will be 2634 02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:39,840 Speaker 2: available for free at the Men's Health Center. If a 2635 02:12:39,880 --> 02:12:42,360 Speaker 2: person acquires HIV, g Link will then. 2636 02:12:42,280 --> 02:12:44,240 Speaker 3: Offer them assistants and linking them to health facilities to 2637 02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:48,360 Speaker 3: help manage their HIV. Wonderful doctors at LGBTI people agree 2638 02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:49,680 Speaker 3: the new center is a great step forward. 2639 02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:51,600 Speaker 2: The clinic will be very useful and convenient to us. 2640 02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:54,240 Speaker 3: A twenty three year old man told the Vietnam News, 2641 02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:57,440 Speaker 3: I really hope also they don't become a target. 2642 02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:01,480 Speaker 2: You know, if they're the only one right now, you 2643 02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:02,080 Speaker 2: just never know. 2644 02:13:03,320 --> 02:13:07,720 Speaker 3: Doctor Tryon Deuy of Ben Don Hospital in Ho Chi 2645 02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:10,880 Speaker 3: Minh City said the clinic would help trans people monitor 2646 02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:13,640 Speaker 3: their use of hormones in a safeway they can overdose 2647 02:13:13,880 --> 02:13:17,640 Speaker 3: or use substanding hormones of those without clear origin or 2648 02:13:17,680 --> 02:13:20,800 Speaker 3: those without clear origins, because those also may not be 2649 02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:23,680 Speaker 3: using They also may not be using hormones in a 2650 02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:26,280 Speaker 3: hygienic way yet, because if it's not regulated and the 2651 02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:28,520 Speaker 3: government's not involved, and you got to go to another 2652 02:13:28,600 --> 02:13:31,360 Speaker 3: country to get the shit yet, I bet you it's 2653 02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:33,560 Speaker 3: not all the same. I bet you might not be regulated. 2654 02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:35,400 Speaker 3: You just never know what people are bringing back across 2655 02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:39,160 Speaker 3: the border with them. So yeah, you would like to 2656 02:13:39,560 --> 02:13:41,800 Speaker 3: you it would for their own health sake, you should 2657 02:13:41,800 --> 02:13:47,160 Speaker 3: be monitoring us. Dong Thap, a twenty four year old 2658 02:13:47,160 --> 02:13:49,280 Speaker 3: trans woman, said many of her friends got sick from 2659 02:13:49,320 --> 02:13:51,720 Speaker 3: self prescribing at hormones. Many were too afraid to go 2660 02:13:51,800 --> 02:13:55,240 Speaker 3: to a medical service in Vietnam because they felt uncomfortable with. 2661 02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:56,720 Speaker 2: The inquisitive eyes. 2662 02:13:57,200 --> 02:13:59,440 Speaker 3: My friends who had gone through gender transition had problems 2663 02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:01,240 Speaker 3: for overdose because they did not go to the doctor 2664 02:14:01,280 --> 02:14:03,760 Speaker 3: but just listen to advice from friends. They had vomiting, 2665 02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:06,440 Speaker 3: the spinal pain, and that times felt dizzy. Others even 2666 02:14:06,520 --> 02:14:09,760 Speaker 3: have bleeding after returning from Vietnam to Vietnam from Taland 2667 02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:11,560 Speaker 3: where they had sex change surgery. 2668 02:14:12,440 --> 02:14:12,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 2669 02:14:14,400 --> 02:14:17,040 Speaker 3: So that's good news though, I mean, maybe that'll stop 2670 02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:18,960 Speaker 3: some of that, you know, for people as far as 2671 02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:21,960 Speaker 3: the enduring, the hardship of having to come back to 2672 02:14:22,000 --> 02:14:27,240 Speaker 3: your country and you know, suffering silence and over you know, overdose. 2673 02:14:26,840 --> 02:14:30,400 Speaker 2: And take dangerous drugs and shit and not be regulated. 2674 02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:31,600 Speaker 2: So hopefully it helps. 2675 02:14:31,840 --> 02:14:35,160 Speaker 1: Medications ain't no joke. Yeah, any type of a surgery, 2676 02:14:35,240 --> 02:14:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. It's a surgery. And 2677 02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:42,360 Speaker 1: any type of surgery that you have, your body has 2678 02:14:42,480 --> 02:14:46,000 Speaker 1: to recover. Yeah, and people have a tendency to ignore that. Shit. 2679 02:14:47,160 --> 02:14:52,240 Speaker 3: Rainbow Crosswalk to be permanent in Atlanta's LGBTQ community Atlanta. 2680 02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:54,920 Speaker 3: On the anniversary of the Post nightclub shooting in Orlando, Florida, 2681 02:14:55,000 --> 02:14:57,400 Speaker 3: the Mayor of Atlanta has announced the city will permanently 2682 02:14:57,440 --> 02:15:00,960 Speaker 3: paint the Rainbow Crosswalk in Midtown mis celebration of Pride month. 2683 02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:03,440 Speaker 3: Forty nine people lost their lives in unspeakble tragedy in 2684 02:15:03,520 --> 02:15:04,440 Speaker 3: June twenty sixteen. 2685 02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:07,440 Speaker 2: Today, on the anniversary of this horrific. 2686 02:15:07,120 --> 02:15:09,800 Speaker 3: Event, we remember those lives that were lost and those 2687 02:15:09,840 --> 02:15:15,760 Speaker 3: that will forever be changed. Mayor Kasim Reed said, our thoughts, 2688 02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:17,640 Speaker 3: the prayers were with you then and they remain with 2689 02:15:17,680 --> 02:15:22,360 Speaker 3: you today. I hope they make sure that that place 2690 02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:26,640 Speaker 3: does not get vandalized and shit like that days. 2691 02:15:26,480 --> 02:15:29,760 Speaker 1: Clean because I's even coming and constantly fucking it up. Yeah. 2692 02:15:30,080 --> 02:15:32,040 Speaker 3: I mean in Atlanta is one of those cities where 2693 02:15:32,320 --> 02:15:35,040 Speaker 3: it's an oasis kind of for gay people in the South. 2694 02:15:35,120 --> 02:15:37,920 Speaker 3: Where I'm not saying it's perfect. 2695 02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:38,640 Speaker 2: I don't live there. 2696 02:15:38,760 --> 02:15:41,280 Speaker 3: I don't know what all issues that are faced within 2697 02:15:41,320 --> 02:15:44,400 Speaker 3: the city and politically, but I just know a lot 2698 02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:48,760 Speaker 3: of gay people from all around LGBT people from all 2699 02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:52,960 Speaker 3: around this area migrate down to Atlanta because you can 2700 02:15:53,040 --> 02:15:55,120 Speaker 3: live a little more openly and a little more freely 2701 02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:56,560 Speaker 3: than you can even here. 2702 02:15:56,440 --> 02:15:57,400 Speaker 2: In Charlotte, Right. 2703 02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:01,440 Speaker 3: I thought and prayers were with you then and they 2704 02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:04,440 Speaker 3: were made with you today. For the past year, Atlanta 2705 02:16:04,480 --> 02:16:06,800 Speaker 3: has grieved alongside Orlando. The city is riding around the 2706 02:16:06,880 --> 02:16:09,320 Speaker 3: LGBT community, and Reed say he cannot think of a 2707 02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:12,040 Speaker 3: more important time to reaffirm his unwavering and qualified support 2708 02:16:12,040 --> 02:16:14,800 Speaker 3: of Atlanta's LGBTQ residents. That's the other thing with the 2709 02:16:14,840 --> 02:16:19,200 Speaker 3: outspoken LGBTQ community, the city of Atlanta. 2710 02:16:19,240 --> 02:16:20,920 Speaker 2: I don't think you can just be out there being 2711 02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:23,000 Speaker 2: a biggot. I'm in that mayor not. 2712 02:16:23,120 --> 02:16:26,640 Speaker 3: No open biggot, how you gonna win election election? So 2713 02:16:27,120 --> 02:16:30,440 Speaker 3: you know, motherfucker gotta he gotta do what he gotta do. 2714 02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:31,680 Speaker 1: Uh. 2715 02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:34,160 Speaker 3: I believe that symbols of unity matter and recognition or 2716 02:16:34,200 --> 02:16:37,720 Speaker 3: outstanding ongoing contribution of Atlanta's LGBTQ community to our city. 2717 02:16:39,120 --> 02:16:40,760 Speaker 3: Please to announce it that that the city will have 2718 02:16:40,800 --> 02:16:43,520 Speaker 3: started rainbow crosswalks at the intersection of Pmut Avenue and 2719 02:16:43,560 --> 02:16:46,640 Speaker 3: Tenth Street year round. The intersection in midtime is recognized 2720 02:16:46,640 --> 02:16:49,920 Speaker 3: for his history as a hub to Atlanta's lgbt community. 2721 02:16:50,360 --> 02:16:52,600 Speaker 3: It is fitting in such an important and recognizable place 2722 02:16:52,840 --> 02:16:54,360 Speaker 3: should feature the rainbow flag. 2723 02:16:56,000 --> 02:16:56,120 Speaker 1: Uh. 2724 02:16:56,640 --> 02:16:57,959 Speaker 2: Well, good, that's dope. 2725 02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:03,640 Speaker 3: So all right, you got two kind of good stories, 2726 02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:06,520 Speaker 3: you know, Like I said, I know that it's just 2727 02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:10,280 Speaker 3: a symbol, and it doesn't I know, it is what 2728 02:17:10,360 --> 02:17:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm trying to say. I know the world is still 2729 02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:16,320 Speaker 3: fucked up, and that peyton a rainbow and some shit 2730 02:17:16,360 --> 02:17:20,720 Speaker 3: ain't gonna make nothing go away. But I swear this 2731 02:17:20,920 --> 02:17:26,000 Speaker 3: news every time we covered it's just like death, murder, kill, hate, 2732 02:17:26,480 --> 02:17:30,080 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm just taking the small victories where 2733 02:17:30,080 --> 02:17:33,840 Speaker 3: we can, the small wins, like like the good articles 2734 02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:35,560 Speaker 3: in LGBTQ News are always like. 2735 02:17:36,480 --> 02:17:39,480 Speaker 2: They said that boy could use the bathroom. I'm like, what, 2736 02:17:41,360 --> 02:17:45,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm gonna cry, Oh my god. And 2737 02:17:45,280 --> 02:17:48,040 Speaker 2: they said, you know what, you can be a boy scout. 2738 02:17:49,440 --> 02:17:53,879 Speaker 2: What how nice of you? That's how fucked up. 2739 02:17:53,879 --> 02:17:56,680 Speaker 1: They say, We're not gonna fuck up whatever you want 2740 02:17:56,760 --> 02:17:56,880 Speaker 1: to be. 2741 02:17:58,080 --> 02:18:02,000 Speaker 2: You know what, we won't burn across today. Oh wow, 2742 02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:05,480 Speaker 2: that is so nice. That city must be so fun. 2743 02:18:05,760 --> 02:18:08,680 Speaker 2: What a great guy. That's how fucking load the bar is. 2744 02:18:10,920 --> 02:18:11,320 Speaker 1: All right? 2745 02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:15,160 Speaker 2: Uh, we gotta go to sword Ratchett's. Okay, you guys 2746 02:18:15,240 --> 02:18:18,760 Speaker 2: got some bonus here. Oh and I hope you enjoyed it. Okay, 2747 02:18:20,080 --> 02:18:22,840 Speaker 2: what's on? Sword fight? Dammit? I just rolled past it. 2748 02:18:22,879 --> 02:18:23,560 Speaker 2: There there we go. 2749 02:18:48,600 --> 02:18:54,840 Speaker 3: A Pridemark worker thirty eight years old plotted a terrorist 2750 02:18:54,879 --> 02:18:57,040 Speaker 3: attack using a Samurai sword that he bought at a 2751 02:18:57,120 --> 02:18:57,640 Speaker 3: sex shop. 2752 02:18:58,560 --> 02:19:01,440 Speaker 1: What why is the Samurai sword at the sex shot? 2753 02:19:01,520 --> 02:19:05,800 Speaker 2: What is we doing in here? Yep, there's a shock shot. 2754 02:19:06,160 --> 02:19:10,000 Speaker 1: Who was fucking bleach? What's happening here? 2755 02:19:11,240 --> 02:19:13,880 Speaker 2: It was a shot that sold sex toys a drug paraphernalia? 2756 02:19:14,920 --> 02:19:16,200 Speaker 2: What to hear? 2757 02:19:16,400 --> 02:19:21,000 Speaker 3: Aziz was walking past a shop called Riff, Raff and 2758 02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:25,080 Speaker 3: Handley in Stoke on Trent when he spotted the sword 2759 02:19:25,160 --> 02:19:27,880 Speaker 3: in the window and decided to purchase. These is on 2760 02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:32,120 Speaker 3: trial accusing the applot a knife ram page with Mohiber 2761 02:19:32,520 --> 02:19:38,360 Speaker 3: Raman thirty two and Naweed Ali twenty nine and kol 2762 02:19:38,480 --> 02:19:42,640 Speaker 3: Bob Hussein twenty five, who called themselves the Musketeers and 2763 02:19:42,720 --> 02:19:46,240 Speaker 3: allegedly shared the same radical belief in violent gat How 2764 02:19:46,280 --> 02:19:48,600 Speaker 3: the fuck do you meet three other dudes that are 2765 02:19:48,640 --> 02:19:51,040 Speaker 3: okay with this this dumb ass plot that y'all gonna 2766 02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:54,160 Speaker 3: get caught doors? I don't know, prosecutor say the terror 2767 02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:56,840 Speaker 3: plot if ilved a sam rosword and the meat cleaver 2768 02:19:56,959 --> 02:19:59,680 Speaker 3: with a with the word had fear scratched into the 2769 02:19:59,720 --> 02:20:04,119 Speaker 3: blaze speaking at an old Bailey At the Old Bailey today, 2770 02:20:04,200 --> 02:20:06,760 Speaker 3: Aziz said he brought the ornamental sword from a shot 2771 02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:09,879 Speaker 3: with sol Sex towards drug pephernelia and items were dressing up, 2772 02:20:09,879 --> 02:20:10,920 Speaker 3: adding this a weird shop. 2773 02:20:10,959 --> 02:20:11,800 Speaker 2: They had weird stuff. 2774 02:20:12,200 --> 02:20:14,040 Speaker 3: He bought the weapon at the end of twenty fourteen 2775 02:20:14,120 --> 02:20:16,160 Speaker 3: for his own protection, he says, and kept it in 2776 02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:19,000 Speaker 3: the passage seat of its fort Fiesta. I walked past 2777 02:20:19,040 --> 02:20:20,240 Speaker 3: and I saw it was playing in the window, so 2778 02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:22,520 Speaker 3: I went in to acquire about it, and I paid 2779 02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:24,320 Speaker 3: twenty year old and I said, that'll do. 2780 02:20:24,640 --> 02:20:27,480 Speaker 1: That's all. It doesn't sound like a lie, even in 2781 02:20:27,560 --> 02:20:28,400 Speaker 1: American dollars. 2782 02:20:28,560 --> 02:20:30,800 Speaker 3: I was working in some rough neighborhoods later at night, 2783 02:20:30,920 --> 02:20:33,959 Speaker 3: especially on the weekends. They have high crime rates, antisocial 2784 02:20:34,040 --> 02:20:37,280 Speaker 3: behavior and where people like to congregate and drink. 2785 02:20:37,320 --> 02:20:39,320 Speaker 2: I was intimidated on a few occasions. The majority of 2786 02:20:39,360 --> 02:20:41,959 Speaker 2: the times it was racial abuse. Well, when I. 2787 02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:45,440 Speaker 3: Felt vulnerable certain circumstances, going to someone's that dress and 2788 02:20:45,520 --> 02:20:48,240 Speaker 3: not being able to deliver because it was very intimidating. 2789 02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:51,760 Speaker 3: There have been occasions when I had glass bottlestone in 2790 02:20:51,840 --> 02:20:54,680 Speaker 3: me and beer cans. He had been working part time 2791 02:20:54,720 --> 02:20:57,520 Speaker 3: at Primark for ten years, but had also been working 2792 02:20:57,600 --> 02:20:59,879 Speaker 3: a series of takeaway as a delivery driver in the evening, 2793 02:21:00,200 --> 02:21:03,800 Speaker 3: he said, I bought it as a deterrent to scare people. 2794 02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:06,640 Speaker 2: There's no intention to using it. So how the fuck 2795 02:21:06,680 --> 02:21:11,120 Speaker 2: did he get himmed up for terrorism? 2796 02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:12,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2797 02:21:13,879 --> 02:21:14,960 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 2798 02:21:15,760 --> 02:21:18,320 Speaker 3: Asked what he thought about the London Bridge of Westminster attacks, 2799 02:21:18,320 --> 02:21:20,800 Speaker 3: which both involved Nis, he told the jury they are 2800 02:21:20,840 --> 02:21:23,480 Speaker 3: six psychopaths. Only someone who was sick in the head 2801 02:21:23,480 --> 02:21:25,320 Speaker 3: would go out of their way and attack innocent people. 2802 02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:27,760 Speaker 2: Because he said he had been drinking heavily in. 2803 02:21:27,800 --> 02:21:30,440 Speaker 3: His marriage to an Irish woman was falling apart when 2804 02:21:30,480 --> 02:21:32,280 Speaker 3: he turned to Islam in twenty fourteen. 2805 02:21:32,440 --> 02:21:34,640 Speaker 2: I had a drinking problem. I used to drink a 2806 02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:37,400 Speaker 2: lot of alcohol, he said. When the kids weren't around, 2807 02:21:37,440 --> 02:21:39,440 Speaker 2: I used to sit upstairs in my bedroom and drink. 2808 02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:41,960 Speaker 2: I found my father was ill. I thought he was 2809 02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:43,680 Speaker 2: gonna die. I thought, how can I even pray for 2810 02:21:43,720 --> 02:21:46,520 Speaker 2: you at your funeral? That was it. I dropped everything after. 2811 02:21:46,640 --> 02:21:48,600 Speaker 3: He was a good Muslem, he said, I tend to oversleep, 2812 02:21:48,640 --> 02:21:51,240 Speaker 3: but I did my best. He had two children, but 2813 02:21:51,320 --> 02:21:53,360 Speaker 3: his wife asked him to move out after their marriage 2814 02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:56,160 Speaker 3: failed and he was living with his mother. Some was 2815 02:21:56,200 --> 02:21:59,000 Speaker 3: ready to January sixteenth last year, after an allegation was 2816 02:21:59,080 --> 02:22:01,800 Speaker 3: made that he possessed indecent images, but. 2817 02:22:01,840 --> 02:22:05,520 Speaker 2: No material was found. However, the court heard that police 2818 02:22:05,560 --> 02:22:08,680 Speaker 2: found he was sharing extremist materials with his friends and 2819 02:22:08,800 --> 02:22:14,720 Speaker 2: co accused Mohibbert Ramen Aziz was downloading Jihati Chance known 2820 02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:18,080 Speaker 2: as now She's from YouTube and told the court Jihadi 2821 02:22:18,200 --> 02:22:20,320 Speaker 2: nashis used to be one of my favorite na She's 2822 02:22:20,680 --> 02:22:23,040 Speaker 2: before I started to practice. My weakness was music. I 2823 02:22:23,120 --> 02:22:25,160 Speaker 2: used to listen to a lot of music. I used 2824 02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:26,440 Speaker 2: to be in West Coast rappers. 2825 02:22:26,480 --> 02:22:28,959 Speaker 3: Jahati ones were no different to me listening to Tupac, 2826 02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:32,680 Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg, Doctor Dre and things. It was another way 2827 02:22:32,760 --> 02:22:35,240 Speaker 3: of me listening to music without comming to see it's catchy. 2828 02:22:36,560 --> 02:22:41,960 Speaker 3: Uh Bill Emil Jones, prosecuting, accused of Ses of comparing 2829 02:22:42,000 --> 02:22:44,520 Speaker 3: Jihati videos with a Snoop Dogg dog video. 2830 02:22:44,720 --> 02:22:47,040 Speaker 2: Of him bouncing in cars to girls of Claude Vheny's. 2831 02:22:47,320 --> 02:22:50,640 Speaker 3: He played one of the chants and which had images 2832 02:22:50,680 --> 02:22:53,120 Speaker 3: of men fighting and bomb exposures to the word bomb. 2833 02:22:53,200 --> 02:22:56,280 Speaker 3: The Kafar non believers claim your victory, brothers, rise up, 2834 02:22:56,360 --> 02:22:59,640 Speaker 3: Let's go for j had Robin wrote in one message 2835 02:22:59,640 --> 02:23:02,440 Speaker 3: to a Z. I know you want to get arrested 2836 02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:04,680 Speaker 3: and go to jail, but it seems like you're looking 2837 02:23:04,760 --> 02:23:06,720 Speaker 3: for a code defendant and by the looks of it, 2838 02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:09,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to end up being in that fish in 2839 02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:12,600 Speaker 3: the bowl. Sorry, A key won't send you no more 2840 02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:16,400 Speaker 3: like that, Aziz promised. But when rob men complained that 2841 02:23:16,480 --> 02:23:18,720 Speaker 3: other muscles came up with all the tired excuses in 2842 02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:21,959 Speaker 3: the world to avoid gi high, Aziz replied, I supported 2843 02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:26,280 Speaker 3: all those that fight fissile Bela. I know I fucked it, 2844 02:23:27,240 --> 02:23:30,600 Speaker 3: bill a la Uh in the in the cause of Allah. 2845 02:23:31,600 --> 02:23:33,920 Speaker 3: Regardless of what group they are in, they are better 2846 02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:37,120 Speaker 3: than me as that fulfilling their obligation and I'm getting 2847 02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:39,959 Speaker 3: left behind the old Bailey previously heard. All four men 2848 02:23:40,000 --> 02:23:43,000 Speaker 3: were arrested after stash of weapons, ammunition and half made 2849 02:23:43,040 --> 02:23:46,200 Speaker 3: pipe bonds. Will found that Ali's back seat Leon Carr 2850 02:23:46,320 --> 02:23:51,520 Speaker 3: in Birmingham following the covert technical operation. Well, okay, now 2851 02:23:51,600 --> 02:23:55,160 Speaker 3: if that happened, that does seem like some terrorism the other. 2852 02:23:55,080 --> 02:23:58,760 Speaker 2: Ship, though I'm a little like I don't know they 2853 02:23:58,840 --> 02:23:59,040 Speaker 2: do not. 2854 02:23:59,160 --> 02:24:01,280 Speaker 3: All the charges and claim evidence was plannet by m 2855 02:24:01,360 --> 02:24:02,800 Speaker 3: I five evident agents. 2856 02:24:02,520 --> 02:24:04,440 Speaker 2: To frame them I don't trust no police either though. 2857 02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:08,240 Speaker 3: Alei and Hussein, both of spark Hill, Birmingham, Robin and Disease, 2858 02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:11,400 Speaker 3: both of Stoke Eastern, single charge of preparing the acts 2859 02:24:11,440 --> 02:24:14,879 Speaker 3: of terrorism before twenty fifth May in twenty seventh August 2860 02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:17,480 Speaker 3: last year under Section five of Terrorism Act twenty sixteen 2861 02:24:17,480 --> 02:24:18,240 Speaker 3: to track to tease. 2862 02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, doub Uh, Yeah, I don't know. 2863 02:24:26,320 --> 02:24:28,760 Speaker 3: And also like, what would the sword have to do 2864 02:24:28,879 --> 02:24:31,520 Speaker 3: with the terrorist attack if these niggas have bombs and shit? 2865 02:24:33,000 --> 02:24:36,680 Speaker 3: Something ain't right with this story, Dobb somebody line. That's 2866 02:24:36,720 --> 02:24:40,680 Speaker 3: all I got for y'all. I mean maybe if he never. 2867 02:24:40,640 --> 02:24:42,240 Speaker 2: Bought that soord, it wouldn't be in a situation. So 2868 02:24:42,320 --> 02:24:45,760 Speaker 2: I guess it's still antisoil with racteess. But in general, 2869 02:24:45,920 --> 02:24:47,440 Speaker 2: I don't know who's telling the truth on that one. 2870 02:24:47,680 --> 02:24:50,160 Speaker 2: Motherfuckers will make up some shit about some Muslim people. 2871 02:24:52,280 --> 02:24:55,200 Speaker 3: All right, guys, we will talk to you guys. Uh, 2872 02:24:55,560 --> 02:24:58,720 Speaker 3: not tomorrow, probably because it's July the fourth, and uh 2873 02:24:58,959 --> 02:25:03,000 Speaker 3: even Jesus rested on America's birthday. Uh, and I'm not 2874 02:25:03,120 --> 02:25:05,600 Speaker 3: too well to celebrate the fourth by taking it off 2875 02:25:06,560 --> 02:25:11,000 Speaker 3: and not seeing fireworks nothing. But yeah, man, be careful 2876 02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:13,640 Speaker 3: with the fireworks and the gunshots tomorrow, stay away from windows. 2877 02:25:14,400 --> 02:25:16,680 Speaker 3: We'll talk to y'all Wednesday, when I know we'll have 2878 02:25:16,879 --> 02:25:20,760 Speaker 3: the crew from Playable Characters on YAY and we're really. 2879 02:25:20,600 --> 02:25:26,200 Speaker 2: Looking forward to talking to them. Yes, until then, I 2880 02:25:26,320 --> 02:25:26,600 Speaker 2: love you.